September 19, 2024 • 38 mins
Nick Sirianni sticks to his guns when questioned about end of game management. Bill Belichick backs his former assistants despite poor performances. Quinn’s Wins delivers winner in CFB. A Parlay Party in the NFL. Plus, the return of Chucky and much more!
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dot com the way tire buying should be. So there's
still the fallout from Monday Night football and that gag
job by the Eagles against the Falcons at home in
which you know, they threw the ball on third down
which stopped the clock because Saquon Barkley dropped it. Then
they elected to kick a field goal when they were
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up three in that spot, as opposed to trying to
go for the first down on fourth down and hold
onto the ball and ice the game. So they went
up by six and then their defense melted down and
Kirk Cousins diced them up down the field and they
won that game. And then Drake London pretended to you know,
shoot a rifle up into the crowd or into the sky,
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and his coach came out after.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was a water gun.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah, well he came out and said, oh, well, you
know it might have been like a T shirt gun.
It's like okay, well for that, yeah, that's because that's
that's what people are dealing when they're making those gestures.
But Nick Sirianni, the head coach of the Eagles, he's
defending himself. He's defending himself against the decision to kick
the field goal in that spot.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Late.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I've put myself in that situation prior to the call.
So I felt like in the moment, my conviction in
the moment was I knew exactly what I want. Again,
is the outcome always what you want to know? But
your conviction and the call. I was completely convicted to
kicking the field goal. There was the right decision based
off all my studies. Now I come back and I
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reevaluate it right, and I'm even more convicted, to be
quite honest.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
With you, good Well, this idea that that loss and
him going for a field goal, there is the re
and they fell apart in that game. If you were
to ask a defensive coordinator, would you rather, if you
were going to have to play and win a game
on that side of the ball, would you ever rather
have a three point lead or a six point lead
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with a minute and change left? Wouldn't they all say
a six point lead because you'd force them to try
and score a touchdown and not settle for a long
field goal if they get stops Like this feels easy
to me.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I'm with you on that too. And here's the
other thing that I don't really understand how people on
the outside of some of these organizations don't get it.
They have analytics departments that build up, you know, what
they believe to be they're the most accurate way of
going about making these decisions when it comes down to
what's going to give them the greatest chance to win.
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And Nick Sirianni had talked about how he'd, you know,
before the season, they had talked about this with their
analytics departments, so to make sure they have all this
stuff ready for these moments.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
And two things.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
This got a lot of momentum because of the Manning
cast with both Peyton and Matt Ryan, which was again
a little odd because Matt Ryan, in a very similar
circumstance in the Super Bowl and a third down was
a part of the team that threw the football and
again play was there, they just didn't execute like the
same exact thing the Falcons New England Patriots super Bowl.
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That play was there for them on third down, but
they didn't execute. And so very similar to this, Saquon
Barclay makes the catch, we're not even having this conversation,
So we could go back to the analytics. All we
wanted what you know, Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan were
calling for, and there's a lot of people are in
that camp, but to your point, you know there's there's
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an analytics department behind this. But also like that's what
Nick Sarrohan wanted to do, and he wanted to put
his team up six and put this on his defense.
And the reality is we're letting the defense off the
hook nowadays with blaming it on the decision of the
head coach going for a in that instance or throwing
a you know, a third down.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Pass that should have been caught and the game should
have over.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Then like we're completely letting players off the hook for
lack of execution on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
In this case.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Obviously Saquon Barkley, who had a good game, but on
offense in that moment didn't. And then on defense being
like Swiss cheese, the way Kirk Cousins went through.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That man, I mean, it was a bing, bing bing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I mean, it was so efficient they had time at
the end to try to make a play back to
every way like that's That's not an offensive issue for
the Eagles. That's a defensive problem. You've got a defense
that's got a new defensive coordinator and it appears is
still kind of settling into whatever this defense is going
to be, but in particular in two minute So I
would say if there's anything that the Eagles should be
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concerned by, it is more focusing on whatever the hell
went wrong on that two minute drive versus Cousins.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
That just absolutely diced them up.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
It was so fast that even Peyton Manning on the
Manning case, was like, all right, well, I mean now,
so hold on.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That was where Eli pushed back a little bit, which
I think that's the other thing is most quarterbacks would
because when you have someone like Peyton Manning who's talking
from that perspective, you're like, okay, dude, we get it.
Like your Peyton, you feel like you're gonna score any
moment when you want to. For the rest of us,
we're thinking more, we got to get in the end zone.
We don't care if there's thirty seconds left with the
other team We're not looking at Tom Brady on the
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other sideline, right, So it's Entyler Patrick Mahomes for that matter.
It's an entirely different perspective. So I understood what Peyton
was saying, but I was definitely more.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
With Eli in that one. He's got to make sure
you score.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And here's where I find this interesting with Nick Sirianni,
and it just goes to show you that all the
stuff in the offseason was real.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
So let's say he goes for the first down there,
like on fourth down, he goes for it, they don't
settle for the field goal and they get stopped. He's
getting buried for not taking the field goal, like he
would get crushed because why would you put your team
in that spot. You could have gone up by six,
you would have forced a land to have to go
at the length of the field, et cetera, et cetera.
So basically, either way, he was going to get criticized.
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And the reason he's getting criticized is because of all
the stuff that was out there in the offseason about
him being on the hot seat. And so we're at
the point now to where Saquon Barkley dropped a catchable
ball and was wide open. The defense got gashed in
a big time moment, and Atlanta went the length of
the field and operated at a clip that they weren't
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able to operate the entire game. And the guy who's
getting all the blame for that is Nick Sirianni, not Saquan,
not Vic Fangy. Like that just tells me that the
clock is ticking and people are expecting either perfection or
better results in this year for Nick Sirianni or else
he's going to be out. And it was all the
stuff we heard in the offseason, which is why. And
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I remember thinking at the time, look at what the
guy's done since he's been in Philly. He's been one
of the best coaches in the NFL. They went to
a Super Bowl, he's been to the playoffs every year.
He's what seventeen eighteen games over five hundred, whatever it is,
And yet we're talking about him potentially losing his job
and the fact that that's the discussion afterwards, and he's
got to defend kicking a field goal when he would
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have had to defend going forward on fourth down. Either way,
he was going to be screwed and be criticized for it,
and that just tells me it was all the smoke
we heard in the offseason, all playing out already two
games into the year. So there we go. There's your
Nick Arianni breakdown, although he's not the only one defending
stuff at this point. Well, look, I mean, Bill Belichick's
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making the rounds. You know, he's talking to everybody. He's
got like seventeen shows. He was on the Let's Go Podcast,
Tom Brady's podcast and had a breakdown of the well
managed teams in the NFL and made sure to give
a shout out to one of his good friends.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Well, I think there's a lot of teams that are
managed really well. Certainly Dallas has accumulated a lot of
really good players, and they've able to balance that with
uh some guys like Aubrey and and Turpin and guys
like that that really are great players but didn't cost
too much in terms of draft capital or contraprats. We've
got a team like Philadelphia also in that division. They've
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also put together a pretty good roster. They continue to,
you know, make great moves like signing Brice Huff and
trading away Reddick and you know, giving that problem to
somebody else and things like that. You know, I think
that the Lions that build a really good offensive line
for their quarterback and you know, they couldn't get you know,
a lot of production in the red area last week.
But you know that's something that you know, Matt Patricias
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started and now they're kind of, you know, getting the
fruits of the labor from him. But things like that.
You know, you look at how other teams are being
managed around the league, and yeah, I certainly see some.
You know, Nick Asiria has done a great job in
in Houston and you know, has gotten the quarterback they need,
but it's got also a good team around them. Yeah,
it's definitely been interesting to watch watch these teams operate.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
We listened a little little shout out from Matt Patricia.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You know, is there even a player on their team
outside of Frank Ragnow who is drafted in the Matt
Patricia era that's still on the line.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I don't know. But let's not be negative about this, right.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He's trying to just ask you the questions like don't
don't shoot the messenger here?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What does that come from?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I mean like that it completely takes away from what
Brad Holmes and and Dan Campbell and guys like Chris Pielman,
who are in that organization. I've done a bill. I mean,
it's it's been completely transformed, he said. Patrisha was there.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
You Like you can't even like you can't get more
different than the culture in Detroit now to where when
Matt Patricia was there, like they were so bad, like
they were so bad. But you know he's given credit
man Nick Cassario and Houston. And Nick Cassaria is a
former Patriots guy, right, so you know he's making sure
everybody knows that, like, hey, listen, a little bit of credit,
(10:48):
a little bit of love for Matt Patricia. And I'm
sure Matt Patricia will be on his staff when when
Belichick takes his next next head coaching job. So you know,
a little uh little credit where credits do? It's almost
as bad when the when the Eagles won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And I guess Taylor Decker was there too, But did
he draft Taylor Decker? Decker was drafted before he got there.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I don't recall. Yeah, who what like how many games
did Patricia coach for the Lions? Was it less than two.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Now he was there for like three years.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Really, coach A are you like when he was Matt
Patricia yeah, Matt Patricia yeah. I believe he got the
job in twenty eighteen and he was fired on twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I remember one of the worst losses I've ever seen.
So remember that ugly because we were on the air.
It was a Sunday night game and it was Bears
Rams and neither offense could score, and it was Jared
Goff at the time and it was Mitch Trubisky, and
Trubisky got banged up and Chase Daniel was the backup
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and the Bears ended up winning the game. It was
really ugly. It was later in the year. It was
a November game and they threw a touchdown pass to
a backup offensive lineman. They could get nothing going, So
the Bears had to turn around from a Sunday night
game and then play on Thanksgiving. The early game on
Thanksgiving at the Lions against Matt Patricia and Jared goffin
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the Lions, and Mitch Trubisky was hurt, so they had
to start Chase Daniel. So late Sunday night game, early
Thursday game at nine thirty Pacific twelve thirty local time
in Detroit, and the Bears annihilated them. And I remember
watching that going that's one of the worst losses I've seen.
And people at that point in time were so fed
(12:33):
up with Matt Patricia and that, Yeah, that probably was
what year one into his regime. And yet all these
years later, the goat's given him credit for what they've
built there in Detroit, So good for him. A little
bit of love for Matt Patricia, there's nothing wrong with that,
and I don't think we need to be negative about
this whole thing. And you know what, did you really
ask how many games he coached?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Though? Yeah, would you say two games? Is that what
you said?
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Now?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Like two years? Less than two years?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
He got less than three.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
He got into year three in twenty twenty and he
got fired like a little more and halfway through that season.
That was a brutal run, though, Man, that was you
know what, this was tough, And if I'm really being honest,
I you know, I got to call some of those games.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
The players were miserable.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And then I'll say this, you know, Matt's a good guy.
He's a smart coach, He's a smart guy, he might
be too smart for football, to be honest, like he might.
I think it was what aerospace engineering or whatever he
used to you know, were engineering whatever he used to do, uh,
you know, back before, or what he went to school for.
But he literally might be too smart for football, where
it's like, man, maybe just uh maybe just going to
(13:37):
something else.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, because you you called, Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I got to call a number of those games that year.
But even go back to last year, I mean they
brought him in Philly to kind of take over as
part of the defense behind the scenes. You know, it
wasn't just shown aside. I mean he was there as
well that staff, and that didn't go well. So there's
just there's a lot of things where you're like, all right,
this just isn't really working out quite the way we thought.
(14:02):
So because I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure down the stretch,
Patricia took over for Sean de Saie calling the defense,
and it led to consecutive losses. And I think they
both his teams last year scored over like thirty some points,
maybe even over forty points.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, it's not great for Matt Patricia on the resume,
But you know what again. He'll be back. He's got
a friend in Bill Belichick. He's going to defend his reputation.
Give him credit where credit's due. I did the same
thing after the Eagles won the Super Bowl. Man, I
credited Chip Kelly for them winning that Super Bowl, all right,
just because I knew it was going to piss people off.
So while they're.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
Eating horse, I mean, I don't get the hatred towards
Chip Kelly as sure if you're a Philadelphia Eagles fan,
Like he was pretty damn good for a couple of
years and they just trashed it now, like everyone's using
his practice schedule and like, you know, all these players
are getting their nutrition stuff right after, like all these
things he laid the groundwork for, Like no one gives
him credit for for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Like what was he five games over five hundred before
they clipped him?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Well, did he win ten games back to back games?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
He wont to division the first year, won ten games
again in year two, and then you know the final
year out, Yeah, because I think he took over like
personnel duties, and that was when I brought in like
DeMarco Murray and and some other ones, and then it
just fell apart. I remember they fired him in season
after I lost to Washington on like a Saturday night game.
(15:25):
It was later in the year, and I'm thinking to myself, like,
we're just going to dismiss the fact that the guy
came in and took over a four by the way,
a four win Andy Reid team and won ten games
and then ten games again, and we just look at
it and go, oh, yeah, just get back to college. Wait, what,
how's it? How does that work? The guy actually had
success in the NFL and then ended up, you know,
(15:46):
coaching Colin Kaepernick. Yea, that year could have I think
they went du fire. I think did they Did they
win that final game that you called the Niner?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
They lost? They lost it in a close match to Seattle.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So I'm pretty sure that they were two and fourteen
that year. They won the first game of the season,
and I'm trying to think, was it. Did they draft
Nick Bosa after that year? Like, no, that was too
long back, but yeah, that have been twenty seventeen, so
but I'm not sure Bosa was out yet.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah. I love Chip Kelly man, I love Chip Kelly. Listen,
that's all we're doing here. We're trying to celebrate coaches
and where things have gone sideways for him. You know,
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Two Pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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we'll call it a little over five minutes from now.
We're gonna throw ourselves a parlay party. It's a tradition
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Well, we'll see what this segment holds then interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, so we will get into that here in about
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that full disclosure, I forgot that we did last year
until somebody brought it up on social media. It's called
Quinn's Wins and I'm fired up for because I can't
wait to fade whatever this pick is.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'm glad you're fired up for.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You're the one that actually was the motivation behind the
le So yeah, hell yeah. Well here's what we're going
to start off with tonight. Everyone's talking about the AFC
East matchup in the NFL's on Thursday Night Football, But look, folks,
we got some college football tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's right. South Alabama heads.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
To boot North Carolina to take on Appalachian State. And
mind you, this is coming off of a South Alabama
win for the decades, absolutely blowing out the doors of
Northwestern State just a week ago, and so we know
South Alabama can put up some points. They scored eighty
(19:41):
seven points. They beat North Northwestern State eighty seven to ten.
When's last time you heard of us score like that
in football?
Speaker 9 (19:48):
Ever?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
My god?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But their quarterback, by the way, freshman quarterback Goo Lopez,
he's played great this year. He's got eight total touchdowns,
no interceptions so far for a freshman, that's balling. And
do you know who the head coaches there at South Alabama? No,
it's old major Apple White, it really exist quarterback Yeah yeah,
head coaching, Yeah, head coaching Jaguar. So this is a
(20:12):
matchup where look, Apple Lash and State can put up
some points too.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Neither of these teams are that good on defense.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
So the best play here, and if you go to
our good friends at DraftKings, you could find the over
under at sixty three. The over is the best play
in this game. But I'm gonna take South Alabama as
well plus seven points. I just think both teams are
gonna be scoring. It might be a little back and
forth battle. One of my concerns is even though Apps
(20:39):
stated about fifteen starters coming back this year, only one
on the offensive line. I think South Alabama can get
after Joey Aguilar, the quarterback for Apple Lash and State
South South Alabama keeps it within the number and a
lot of scoring in this on the over of sixty
three points. Checked out the weather there in Boone, North Carolina,
and there is supposed to be rain about the middle
of the day, late out afternoon, but nothing heading into
(21:02):
the evening, so it should be good conditions for this one.
Moving on to the NFL Thursday Night Football, We've got
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
We talked about that earlier.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's the biggest favorite they've been since what nineteen ninety three,
twenty Nineteenninet eight.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
We've kind of seen the number bouncing around.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
This is one know where I feel pretty confident laying
the six points here. That's where DraftKings has the number
right now with the New York Jets, but the best
play the under of thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
And a half.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
This just oozes a game to me where I don't
think we're gonna see a lot of scoring. I don't
think we're gonna see the Pats scoring a lot, even
though we've seen the Jets defensive struggles so far this year,
and I think for the Jets, look they're going up
gets to tough pats defense. Points have been hard to
come by when you're playing New England, and you know
this is an offense.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I think we talked about it earlier.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
They found their rhythm in the second half last week,
but the reality is still work in progress. So the
under of thirty eight and a half is the best
play for tonight's Thursday Night football. But go ahead, lay
the six points to the Jets. They will take care
of business.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Look at that some Quinns wins here on a Thursday morning.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Fade that fade that Jonas.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I don't think I want to say that. By the way,
I was looking up the eighty seven points by South
Alabama they scored. I was trying to find the most
points ever scored in a college football game. Somebody I
did see this back in nineteen sixteen, Georgia Tech beat
Cumberland two hundred and twenty two to nothing. I dispute that.
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I don't think that that's.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
A real he that had been like every single play
they're scoring a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
The Navy beat North Texas in two thousand and seven
seventy four to sixty two. Pit beat Syracuse seventy six
sixty one in twenty sixteen Western Michigan.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I'm saying, like, think about the margin of victory. Yeah,
seventy seven points is the margin victory and the scoring
eighty seven in general.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But I want to say.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Somewhere I heard it was one of the largest point
totals ever for like a two FBS teams.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Something like that.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
It's got to be Yeah, that's that's impressive. Well, listen,
that'll be that'll be a fun watch. And I kind
of would side with you on the on the Jets
except for one one portion of that. So we'll get
into that here from the ti raq dot com studios.
Two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. Coming up at about twelve minutes from now.
A Super Bowl champion could be making his return, very
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return to the world of football. Coming up here, and
we'll tell you who that is again fifteen minutes from
now from the ti iraq dot com studios. All right,
so it's time to throw a parlay party here. So,
courtesy of our friends at DraftKings, you look around the
NFL slate and look, it could be tonight's game. It
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could be a game on Sunday one of the Monday
night game. But if you're picking a game that you
feel most confident right now about this weekend, what's your pick?
If you had to, Brady Quill, I mean, not to
beat a dead horse. You could pick against the Carolina Panthers.
But little concerned that Andy Dalton mike him a spark.
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You know, sometimes you get that backup coming in. It
sparks the offense changes things up a bit, maybe the
defense doesn't know what to expect quite as much. So
I'm gonna stay away from that one. I'm gonna go
with the Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Browns and I'm gonna lay the six and.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
A half points versus the New York Giants, Who've got
their offensive struggles.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Of their own.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And look, I think that offensive line for the Giants
is gonna have a hard time versus the Jim Schwartz
defense there in Cleveland. A lot of pressure, a lot
of tough matchups for them up front and on the
flip side, like I said, we know the Giants have
had a hard time scoring, so I think the Browns
starting to find something a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Last week.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It was an ugly win, but it was a nice
win versus Jacksonville. So I think they'll be able to
take care of business versus the Giants. So lay the
six and a half points.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Man, the Giants are bad boy like and you know,
you look at that game last week and you go, man,
if Malik Neighbors makes that catch, like there's an opportunity
for them to go down and win that game, and
they just couldn't. You know, their their kicker, you know,
got hurt, and you know what the opening kickoff like,
it just felt like everything was falling apart for them.
And then when they finally were putting something together and
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it felt like that was a game they might surprise somebody.
Malik Neighbors, you know, may it drops that path that's
not on Daniel Jones. That was a drop. And so
now Daniel Jones has got to come back enough to
deal with that front in Cleveland. This could get real
luckly for him. I've been consistent with this. I'm telling
you right now. The Dallas Cowboys getting a point at
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home against the Baltimore Ravens this Sunday, I love it.
I love this spot. We've seen Dallas do this before
where they get blown out or they lose a game
they had bote no business losing the previous week, and
they come back and they always respond. I know, it's
pretty much a must win for Baltimore. Can't start off
the season oh one three. But I think Dallas in
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this spot, I trust that they're going to get him done.
And they're getting a point at home there against the
Baltimore Ravens. What do you think about that? I'm not
as big of a fan of that one. Something tells
me I'm a big concern to think Baltimore is gonna go.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
What oh and three?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Man doesn't sound right, doesn't look right, can't co sign
on that. I just there's something about it. That's one
I would probably stay away from. But if I was
gonna play it, I'd most likely be on the other side.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I mean, how about the Rams getting seven points against
the Niners at home? That's a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
That's an interesting one too, But it's an interesting one
that makes me go the other way. But it's interesting
too when you think about cmax out, Deebo Samuel's out,
and maybe that plays into the line.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
But again it makes me think that maybe.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
This goes the other way, especially, you know, if the
Rams don't get off to a fast start, become a
one dimensional team that really plays in the forty nine.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Ers hands, all right, Arizona Cardinals plus three against the
Lions at home.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
That's what I like. That's what I like.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think at a whole underd like that usually tougher
for a West Coast team going east and east going west.
But I still think the way they've played this year, like,
that's why I take the three points, all right. So
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Speaker 4 (27:13):
So if you were to like to listen to this
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and a half, the Dallas Cowboys getting a point, even
though we're guys on the other side of that. All right,
Well listen, it's us. We're doing this together, all right,
So we support each other on this show. I told
you Bowl and Axe think backdraft. So we got Cleveland
minus six and a half, we got Dallas getting a
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point at home, and we've got Arizona getting three points
at home. This is a nice little three team parlay. Baby,
like a little three team parlay. So you throw in
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Speaker 8 (30:26):
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Speaker 2 (30:38):
What is this I don't know if it is bad Reckna,
beds are burning?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
What oay?
Speaker 11 (30:51):
The song?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
No, what's the theme? What is it in reference to?
I don't know, beds are Burning.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I had to take a guess, like, are you a
big like sixteen Candles all those kind of movies back
in the day, good movies?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Shockingly, No, I'm not a very good movie buff. I'm
mostly Disney movies.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, because this feels like that era of music.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It is from the eighties. It's midnight oil. I believe
it's talking about the environment or something burning, destroying the
earth or whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Well at least people paid attention. So they're still doing.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
That back that high.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, and they're Australian. All right. Do you know you
mentioned sixteen Candles? You know the guy who was like
the love interest, the jock in sixteen Candles, Like, I
don't even know the guy's real name, but he was
the one that was like the popular guy that Molly
Ringwald was like, I guess ended up.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Falling or he fell for her. You know that guy
just people shoffling because pronounce it.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I don't remember, but I just know that he left acting,
just wasn't into it and started a furniture store, just
started building crushing it by the oh yeah, just building
his own furniture. It was like, yeah, these people are
too weird. I want to go like work with my
hands and just went and started building tables and furniture
and started his own business. Let's go there, let's go
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live to our I've got a thought on his lumber
store insider lead to lat for the latest.
Speaker 12 (32:20):
Yeah, this is one of those. Uh, of course he
did lead. This is a guy that my dad always
talks about going up against in uh for parts. When
he was an actor. He wanted to be Ducky and
sixteen Candles. My dad was like runner up to this guy.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
No, I'm not talking about Ducky.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
We're not talking about Ducky.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Kay, Ducky the jock, the jock, okay my bed.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah. Is it Jake Ryan in the movie? How do
you remember that?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I think that is.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, I mean I used to. I mean that movie
came out in the Yarl was born. But I've seen
the movie.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, good movie? Is it Jake Ryan? Like that's that
sounds accurately, like if you look up that correct.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Why are we asking we have Eddie Eddie's and Eddie
was alive during that time. He was not just a
child totally pretending to be alive.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Slash just bailed, So I would I would much rather
rely on Eddie's movie critic or as a movie critic
over Lee.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Any day of the week.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
He and Eddie agree on movies.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
There was there was one.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
There was The Batman, and you both agree that you
thought Michael Keaton is the best Batman.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I thought it was the nipples they got off on.
We got off of that here isn't agree, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I got off a term.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, probably could have laid that out better.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
That was the thing you guys were arguing about the packs.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
There wasn't to be fair, It wasn't it was. I
don't know that everyone's arguing about it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I think we were learning about it because it was
something that I never noticed before until I don't know
who brought that up, but well it.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Always comes up pun intended.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
All right, Uh, well we'll listen. You know, we transition.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Transition smoothly from that over to this. I don't know
if you're a big fan of the movie Chucky, but
the guy in the NFL world who was called Chucky
for all those years. John Gruden, I mean, apparently he's
still got an interest in coming back. He was talking
to cbssports dot Com and there was the you know,
(34:38):
the the possibility was floated out there about what about college,
like if not the NFL because you got this, you know,
pending legal situation with the NFL. What about college? John
Gruden told CBS Sports the following quote, Yeah, I'm interested
in coaching. My dad was college coach. I was a
college coach at Pitt. My wife was a cheerleader at
Tennessee when I met her. Hell, yeah, I'm interested in coaching.
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I know I can help a team. I know it
can help young players get better, and I know I
can hire a good staff and that's the only thing
I can guarantee. But yeah, I'm very interested in coaching
at any level period. Does John Gruden get another crack
at this thing, because I think he does.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I think it's going to happen. I think there's going
to be some interested parties. I think it's an interesting
time too that he would want to look to get
back into college football, coaching college football, I should say,
I don't think he's been with a college program since
nineteen ninety one. I think it's with Pittsburgh as a
wide receivers coach. So it's been quite some time. There's
been a lot of changes. It'll be interesting to see
(35:38):
how I have used it. But all those changes have
flowed in the direction of professional football. I mean even
the expanded playoff system. Now you're looking at nil players
being compensated. So I think when it comes down to it,
it can make some sense because he could sell a
fan base on his success. You know, he's won a
Super Bowl and all that's unbelievable character, So he'd be
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able to fundraise, he'd be able to you know, do
all that stuff. The only wrench in this side of
all this is that if you ask most head coaches
in college football what percentage of their day amounts to
coaching football, it's probably not as much as people think.
And I think that's the issue is John Grutin loves football.
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He's got like that fired and coaches, you know football
Association deal where he you know, brings in coaches have
been fire to watch film, they kind of go through
a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
They you know, he's been helping out with an Italian team.
I don't laugh.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm pretty sure, he's a consultant with like the Multo Seamen.
All right, yeah, I know I knew that was coming
for me, RIGHTA. But he loves football, and that's where
I feel like it's not going to be probably what
he thinks it's going to be, because there's so many
other ways head coaches in college football being pulled right now.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Look at Chip Kelly.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
That's a prime example of a guy who was in
a head coaching spot and then leaves to go be
an offensive coordinator because you don't get the coach.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
You know, you have to be a coordinator.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Position coach if you actually want to watch film, tak
to players, coach a ball. Otherwise you're doing all sorts
of other things that are outside the realm of what
that title actually portrays.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Remember that was Rick Patino's point when people were critical
of how Saint John's was playing, and you know he
made him himself, was critical of his own team. But
like his point was, you know, he's kind of like
during the day he's having to set up like luncheons
and dinners and meetings with nil folks and trying to
raise money and get that whole thing figured out that
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like you can't really focus on coaching, like it's all
the other business stuff that comes in to play here.
I just look and Gruden's, you know, only sixty one.
And I say that because he's been doing it for
so long, like at the highest of level that you know,
he clearly still is the energy to do it, clearly
still has a desire to do it. And I just
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wonder would he be open to being a coordinator if
he wasn't going to get the head coaching job, would
he be open to being a cord Jerry Glanville was
I think was a defensive coordinator last year at some place,
Like I wonder if there was an opportunity or if
somebody would be threatened by his presence to bring him
in to want to take over an offense somewhere, which
(38:24):
would be Listen, you know, we see how the NFL
legal stuff plays out, but you know, the guy can
coach regardless.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Of he is actually now the Northwestern Oklahoma State defensive
coordinator is not coaching anywhere last year though in regards
to Jerry Glanville, Jerry Glanville, love him, Oklahoma State. Jees,
that's a mouthful a lot going on there.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Man, this
song stinks. It's a little different when Levar's not here.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Huh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Just just just not a good song at all. But again,
nobody disagree. I think it's catchy.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You I think it's it's good. It's good.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Well listen, we agree to disagree. My ears work a
little better apparently. But you know who might a judge.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Two pro You just don't have an appreciation for other
types of music.
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dot com the way tire buying should be. So there's
still the fallout from Monday Night football and that gag
job by the Eagles against the Falcons at home in
which you know, they threw the ball on third down
which stopped the clock because Saquon Barkley dropped it. Then
they elected to kick a field goal when they were
(01:42):
up three in that spot, as opposed to trying to
go for the first down on fourth down and hold
onto the ball and ice the game. So they went
up by six and then their defense melted down and
Kirk Cousins diced them up down the field and they
won that game. And then Drake London pretended to you know,
shoot a rifle up into the crowd or into the sky,
(02:03):
and his coach came out after.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was a water gun.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah, well he came out and said, oh, well, you
know it might have been like a T shirt gun.
It's like okay, well for that, yeah, that's because that's
that's what people are dealing when they're making those gestures.
But Nick Sirianni, the head coach of the Eagles, he's
defending himself. He's defending himself against the decision to kick
the field goal in that spot.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Late.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I've put myself in that situation prior to the call.
So I felt like in the moment, my conviction in
the moment was I knew exactly what I want. Again,
is the outcome always what you want to know? But
your conviction and the call. I was completely convicted to
kicking the field goal. There was the right decision based
off all my studies. Now I come back and I
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reevaluate it right, and I'm even more convicted, to be
quite honest.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
With you, good Well, this idea that that loss and
him going for a field goal, there is the re
and they fell apart in that game. If you were
to ask a defensive coordinator, would you rather, if you
were going to have to play and win a game
on that side of the ball, would you ever rather
have a three point lead or a six point lead
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with a minute and change left? Wouldn't they all say
a six point lead because you'd force them to try
and score a touchdown and not settle for a long
field goal if they get stops Like this feels easy
to me.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I'm with you on that too. And here's the
other thing that I don't really understand how people on
the outside of some of these organizations don't get it.
They have analytics departments that build up, you know, what
they believe to be they're the most accurate way of
going about making these decisions when it comes down to
what's going to give them the greatest chance to win.
(03:47):
And Nick Sirianni had talked about how he'd, you know,
before the season, they had talked about this with their
analytics departments, so to make sure they have all this
stuff ready for these moments.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
And two things.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
This got a lot of momentum because of the Manning
cast with both Peyton and Matt Ryan, which was again
a little odd because Matt Ryan, in a very similar
circumstance in the Super Bowl and a third down was
a part of the team that threw the football and
again play was there, they just didn't execute like the
same exact thing the Falcons New England Patriots super Bowl.
(04:22):
That play was there for them on third down, but
they didn't execute. And so very similar to this, Saquon
Barclay makes the catch, we're not even having this conversation,
So we could go back to the analytics. All we
wanted what you know, Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan were
calling for, and there's a lot of people are in
that camp, but to your point, you know there's there's
(04:43):
an analytics department behind this. But also like that's what
Nick Sarrohan wanted to do, and he wanted to put
his team up six and put this on his defense.
And the reality is we're letting the defense off the
hook nowadays with blaming it on the decision of the
head coach going for a in that instance or throwing
a you know, a third down.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Pass that should have been caught and the game should
have over.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Then like we're completely letting players off the hook for
lack of execution on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
In this case.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Obviously Saquon Barkley, who had a good game, but on
offense in that moment didn't. And then on defense being
like Swiss cheese, the way Kirk Cousins went through.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That man, I mean, it was a bing, bing bing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I mean, it was so efficient they had time at
the end to try to make a play back to
every way like that's That's not an offensive issue for
the Eagles. That's a defensive problem. You've got a defense
that's got a new defensive coordinator and it appears is
still kind of settling into whatever this defense is going
to be, but in particular in two minute So I
would say if there's anything that the Eagles should be
(05:48):
concerned by, it is more focusing on whatever the hell
went wrong on that two minute drive versus Cousins.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
That just absolutely diced them up.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
It was so fast that even Peyton Manning on the
Manning case, was like, all right, well, I mean now,
so hold on.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That was where Eli pushed back a little bit, which
I think that's the other thing is most quarterbacks would
because when you have someone like Peyton Manning who's talking
from that perspective, you're like, okay, dude, we get it.
Like your Peyton, you feel like you're gonna score any
moment when you want to. For the rest of us,
we're thinking more, we got to get in the end zone.
We don't care if there's thirty seconds left with the
other team We're not looking at Tom Brady on the
(06:25):
other sideline, right, So it's Entyler Patrick Mahomes for that matter.
It's an entirely different perspective. So I understood what Peyton
was saying, but I was definitely more.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
With Eli in that one. He's got to make sure
you score.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And here's where I find this interesting with Nick Sirianni,
and it just goes to show you that all the
stuff in the offseason was real.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
So let's say he goes for the first down there,
like on fourth down, he goes for it, they don't
settle for the field goal and they get stopped. He's
getting buried for not taking the field goal, like he
would get crushed because why would you put your team
in that spot. You could have gone up by six,
you would have forced a land to have to go
at the length of the field, et cetera, et cetera.
So basically, either way, he was going to get criticized.
(07:06):
And the reason he's getting criticized is because of all
the stuff that was out there in the offseason about
him being on the hot seat. And so we're at
the point now to where Saquon Barkley dropped a catchable
ball and was wide open. The defense got gashed in
a big time moment, and Atlanta went the length of
the field and operated at a clip that they weren't
(07:27):
able to operate the entire game. And the guy who's
getting all the blame for that is Nick Sirianni, not Saquan,
not Vic Fangy. Like that just tells me that the
clock is ticking and people are expecting either perfection or
better results in this year for Nick Sirianni or else
he's going to be out. And it was all the
stuff we heard in the offseason, which is why. And
(07:50):
I remember thinking at the time, look at what the
guy's done since he's been in Philly. He's been one
of the best coaches in the NFL. They went to
a Super Bowl, he's been to the playoffs every year.
He's what seventeen eighteen games over five hundred, whatever it is,
And yet we're talking about him potentially losing his job
and the fact that that's the discussion afterwards, and he's
got to defend kicking a field goal when he would
(08:11):
have had to defend going forward on fourth down. Either way,
he was going to be screwed and be criticized for it,
and that just tells me it was all the smoke
we heard in the offseason, all playing out already two
games into the year. So there we go. There's your
Nick Arianni breakdown, although he's not the only one defending
stuff at this point. Well, look, I mean, Bill Belichick's
(08:33):
making the rounds. You know, he's talking to everybody. He's
got like seventeen shows. He was on the Let's Go Podcast,
Tom Brady's podcast and had a breakdown of the well
managed teams in the NFL and made sure to give
a shout out to one of his good friends.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Well, I think there's a lot of teams that are
managed really well. Certainly Dallas has accumulated a lot of
really good players, and they've able to balance that with
uh some guys like Aubrey and and Turpin and guys
like that that really are great players but didn't cost
too much in terms of draft capital or contraprats. We've
got a team like Philadelphia also in that division. They've
(09:12):
also put together a pretty good roster. They continue to,
you know, make great moves like signing Brice Huff and
trading away Reddick and you know, giving that problem to
somebody else and things like that. You know, I think
that the Lions that build a really good offensive line
for their quarterback and you know, they couldn't get you know,
a lot of production in the red area last week.
But you know that's something that you know, Matt Patricias
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started and now they're kind of, you know, getting the
fruits of the labor from him. But things like that.
You know, you look at how other teams are being
managed around the league, and yeah, I certainly see some.
You know, Nick Asiria has done a great job in
in Houston and you know, has gotten the quarterback they need,
but it's got also a good team around them. Yeah,
it's definitely been interesting to watch watch these teams operate.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
We listened a little little shout out from Matt Patricia.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You know, is there even a player on their team
outside of Frank Ragnow who is drafted in the Matt
Patricia era that's still on the line.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I don't know. But let's not be negative about this, right.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He's trying to just ask you the questions like don't
don't shoot the messenger here?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What does that come from?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I mean like that it completely takes away from what
Brad Holmes and and Dan Campbell and guys like Chris Pielman,
who are in that organization. I've done a bill. I mean,
it's it's been completely transformed, he said. Patrisha was there.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
You Like you can't even like you can't get more
different than the culture in Detroit now to where when
Matt Patricia was there, like they were so bad, like
they were so bad. But you know he's given credit
man Nick Cassario and Houston. And Nick Cassaria is a
former Patriots guy, right, so you know he's making sure
everybody knows that, like, hey, listen, a little bit of credit,
(10:48):
a little bit of love for Matt Patricia. And I'm
sure Matt Patricia will be on his staff when when
Belichick takes his next next head coaching job. So you know,
a little uh little credit where credits do? It's almost
as bad when the when the Eagles won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And I guess Taylor Decker was there too, But did
he draft Taylor Decker? Decker was drafted before he got there.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I don't recall. Yeah, who what like how many games
did Patricia coach for the Lions? Was it less than two.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Now he was there for like three years.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Really, coach A are you like when he was Matt
Patricia yeah, Matt Patricia yeah. I believe he got the
job in twenty eighteen and he was fired on twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I remember one of the worst losses I've ever seen.
So remember that ugly because we were on the air.
It was a Sunday night game and it was Bears
Rams and neither offense could score, and it was Jared
Goff at the time and it was Mitch Trubisky, and
Trubisky got banged up and Chase Daniel was the backup
(11:51):
and the Bears ended up winning the game. It was
really ugly. It was later in the year. It was
a November game and they threw a touchdown pass to
a backup offensive lineman. They could get nothing going, So
the Bears had to turn around from a Sunday night
game and then play on Thanksgiving. The early game on
Thanksgiving at the Lions against Matt Patricia and Jared goffin
(12:12):
the Lions, and Mitch Trubisky was hurt, so they had
to start Chase Daniel. So late Sunday night game, early
Thursday game at nine thirty Pacific twelve thirty local time
in Detroit, and the Bears annihilated them. And I remember
watching that going that's one of the worst losses I've seen.
And people at that point in time were so fed
(12:33):
up with Matt Patricia and that, Yeah, that probably was
what year one into his regime. And yet all these
years later, the goat's given him credit for what they've
built there in Detroit, So good for him. A little
bit of love for Matt Patricia, there's nothing wrong with that,
and I don't think we need to be negative about
this whole thing. And you know what, did you really
ask how many games he coached?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Though? Yeah, would you say two games? Is that what
you said?
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Now?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Like two years? Less than two years?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
He got less than three.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
He got into year three in twenty twenty and he
got fired like a little more and halfway through that season.
That was a brutal run, though, Man, that was you
know what, this was tough, And if I'm really being honest,
I you know, I got to call some of those games.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
The players were miserable.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And then I'll say this, you know, Matt's a good guy.
He's a smart coach, He's a smart guy, he might
be too smart for football, to be honest, like he might.
I think it was what aerospace engineering or whatever he
used to you know, were engineering whatever he used to do, uh,
you know, back before, or what he went to school for.
But he literally might be too smart for football, where
it's like, man, maybe just uh maybe just going to
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something else.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, because you you called, Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I got to call a number of those games that year.
But even go back to last year, I mean they
brought him in Philly to kind of take over as
part of the defense behind the scenes. You know, it
wasn't just shown aside. I mean he was there as
well that staff, and that didn't go well. So there's
just there's a lot of things where you're like, all right,
this just isn't really working out quite the way we thought.
(14:02):
So because I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure down the stretch,
Patricia took over for Sean de Saie calling the defense,
and it led to consecutive losses. And I think they
both his teams last year scored over like thirty some points,
maybe even over forty points.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, it's not great for Matt Patricia on the resume,
But you know what again. He'll be back. He's got
a friend in Bill Belichick. He's going to defend his reputation.
Give him credit where credit's due. I did the same
thing after the Eagles won the Super Bowl. Man, I
credited Chip Kelly for them winning that Super Bowl, all right,
just because I knew it was going to piss people off.
So while they're.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
Eating horse, I mean, I don't get the hatred towards
Chip Kelly as sure if you're a Philadelphia Eagles fan,
Like he was pretty damn good for a couple of
years and they just trashed it now, like everyone's using
his practice schedule and like, you know, all these players
are getting their nutrition stuff right after, like all these
things he laid the groundwork for, Like no one gives
him credit for for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Like what was he five games over five hundred before
they clipped him?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Well, did he win ten games back to back games?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
He wont to division the first year, won ten games
again in year two, and then you know the final
year out, Yeah, because I think he took over like
personnel duties, and that was when I brought in like
DeMarco Murray and and some other ones, and then it
just fell apart. I remember they fired him in season
after I lost to Washington on like a Saturday night game.
(15:25):
It was later in the year, and I'm thinking to myself, like,
we're just going to dismiss the fact that the guy
came in and took over a four by the way,
a four win Andy Reid team and won ten games
and then ten games again, and we just look at
it and go, oh, yeah, just get back to college. Wait, what,
how's it? How does that work? The guy actually had
success in the NFL and then ended up, you know,
(15:46):
coaching Colin Kaepernick. Yea, that year could have I think
they went du fire. I think did they Did they
win that final game that you called the Niner?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
They lost? They lost it in a close match to Seattle.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So I'm pretty sure that they were two and fourteen
that year. They won the first game of the season,
and I'm trying to think, was it. Did they draft
Nick Bosa after that year? Like, no, that was too
long back, but yeah, that have been twenty seventeen, so
but I'm not sure Bosa was out yet.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah. I love Chip Kelly man, I love Chip Kelly. Listen,
that's all we're doing here. We're trying to celebrate coaches
and where things have gone sideways for him. You know,
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Two Pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming up and
we'll call it a little over five minutes from now.
We're gonna throw ourselves a parlay party. It's a tradition
every single week. We're gonna take a look ahead at
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together on the air. You and meet Babe, ready to
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like Ben Draft.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Well, we'll see what this segment holds then interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, so we will get into that here in about
five minutes from now. But it is time for something
that full disclosure, I forgot that we did last year
until somebody brought it up on social media. It's called
Quinn's Wins and I'm fired up for because I can't
wait to fade whatever this pick is.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'm glad you're fired up for.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You're the one that actually was the motivation behind the
le So yeah, hell yeah. Well here's what we're going
to start off with tonight. Everyone's talking about the AFC
East matchup in the NFL's on Thursday Night Football, But look, folks,
we got some college football tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's right. South Alabama heads.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
To boot North Carolina to take on Appalachian State. And
mind you, this is coming off of a South Alabama
win for the decades, absolutely blowing out the doors of
Northwestern State just a week ago, and so we know
South Alabama can put up some points. They scored eighty
(19:41):
seven points. They beat North Northwestern State eighty seven to ten.
When's last time you heard of us score like that
in football?
Speaker 9 (19:48):
Ever?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
My god?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But their quarterback, by the way, freshman quarterback Goo Lopez,
he's played great this year. He's got eight total touchdowns,
no interceptions so far for a freshman, that's balling. And
do you know who the head coaches there at South Alabama? No,
it's old major Apple White, it really exist quarterback Yeah yeah,
head coaching, Yeah, head coaching Jaguar. So this is a
(20:12):
matchup where look, Apple Lash and State can put up
some points too.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Neither of these teams are that good on defense.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
So the best play here, and if you go to
our good friends at DraftKings, you could find the over
under at sixty three. The over is the best play
in this game. But I'm gonna take South Alabama as
well plus seven points. I just think both teams are
gonna be scoring. It might be a little back and
forth battle. One of my concerns is even though Apps
(20:39):
stated about fifteen starters coming back this year, only one
on the offensive line. I think South Alabama can get
after Joey Aguilar, the quarterback for Apple Lash and State
South South Alabama keeps it within the number and a
lot of scoring in this on the over of sixty
three points. Checked out the weather there in Boone, North Carolina,
and there is supposed to be rain about the middle
of the day, late out afternoon, but nothing heading into
(21:02):
the evening, so it should be good conditions for this one.
Moving on to the NFL Thursday Night Football, We've got
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
We talked about that earlier.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's the biggest favorite they've been since what nineteen ninety three,
twenty Nineteenninet eight.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
We've kind of seen the number bouncing around.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
This is one know where I feel pretty confident laying
the six points here. That's where DraftKings has the number
right now with the New York Jets, but the best
play the under of thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
And a half.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
This just oozes a game to me where I don't
think we're gonna see a lot of scoring. I don't
think we're gonna see the Pats scoring a lot, even
though we've seen the Jets defensive struggles so far this year,
and I think for the Jets, look they're going up
gets to tough pats defense. Points have been hard to
come by when you're playing New England, and you know
this is an offense.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I think we talked about it earlier.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
They found their rhythm in the second half last week,
but the reality is still work in progress. So the
under of thirty eight and a half is the best
play for tonight's Thursday Night football. But go ahead, lay
the six points to the Jets. They will take care
of business.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Look at that some Quinns wins here on a Thursday morning.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Fade that fade that Jonas.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I don't think I want to say that. By the way,
I was looking up the eighty seven points by South
Alabama they scored. I was trying to find the most
points ever scored in a college football game. Somebody I
did see this back in nineteen sixteen, Georgia Tech beat
Cumberland two hundred and twenty two to nothing. I dispute that.
(22:33):
I don't think that that's.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
A real he that had been like every single play
they're scoring a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
The Navy beat North Texas in two thousand and seven
seventy four to sixty two. Pit beat Syracuse seventy six
sixty one in twenty sixteen Western Michigan.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I'm saying, like, think about the margin of victory. Yeah,
seventy seven points is the margin victory and the scoring
eighty seven in general.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But I want to say.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Somewhere I heard it was one of the largest point
totals ever for like a two FBS teams.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Something like that.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
It's got to be Yeah, that's that's impressive. Well, listen,
that'll be that'll be a fun watch. And I kind
of would side with you on the on the Jets
except for one one portion of that. So we'll get
into that here from the ti raq dot com studios.
Two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox
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(23:26):
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now from the ti iraq dot com studios. All right,
so it's time to throw a parlay party here. So,
courtesy of our friends at DraftKings, you look around the
NFL slate and look, it could be tonight's game. It
(23:46):
could be a game on Sunday one of the Monday
night game. But if you're picking a game that you
feel most confident right now about this weekend, what's your pick?
If you had to, Brady Quill, I mean, not to
beat a dead horse. You could pick against the Carolina Panthers.
But little concerned that Andy Dalton mike him a spark.
(24:07):
You know, sometimes you get that backup coming in. It
sparks the offense changes things up a bit, maybe the
defense doesn't know what to expect quite as much. So
I'm gonna stay away from that one. I'm gonna go
with the Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Browns and I'm gonna lay the six and.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
A half points versus the New York Giants, Who've got
their offensive struggles.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Of their own.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And look, I think that offensive line for the Giants
is gonna have a hard time versus the Jim Schwartz
defense there in Cleveland. A lot of pressure, a lot
of tough matchups for them up front and on the
flip side, like I said, we know the Giants have
had a hard time scoring, so I think the Browns
starting to find something a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Last week.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It was an ugly win, but it was a nice
win versus Jacksonville. So I think they'll be able to
take care of business versus the Giants. So lay the
six and a half points.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Man, the Giants are bad boy like and you know,
you look at that game last week and you go, man,
if Malik Neighbors makes that catch, like there's an opportunity
for them to go down and win that game, and
they just couldn't. You know, their their kicker, you know,
got hurt, and you know what the opening kickoff like,
it just felt like everything was falling apart for them.
And then when they finally were putting something together and
(25:13):
it felt like that was a game they might surprise somebody.
Malik Neighbors, you know, may it drops that path that's
not on Daniel Jones. That was a drop. And so
now Daniel Jones has got to come back enough to
deal with that front in Cleveland. This could get real
luckly for him. I've been consistent with this. I'm telling
you right now. The Dallas Cowboys getting a point at
(25:35):
home against the Baltimore Ravens this Sunday, I love it.
I love this spot. We've seen Dallas do this before
where they get blown out or they lose a game
they had bote no business losing the previous week, and
they come back and they always respond. I know, it's
pretty much a must win for Baltimore. Can't start off
the season oh one three. But I think Dallas in
(25:56):
this spot, I trust that they're going to get him done.
And they're getting a point at home there against the
Baltimore Ravens. What do you think about that? I'm not
as big of a fan of that one. Something tells
me I'm a big concern to think Baltimore is gonna go.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
What oh and three?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Man doesn't sound right, doesn't look right, can't co sign
on that. I just there's something about it. That's one
I would probably stay away from. But if I was
gonna play it, I'd most likely be on the other side.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I mean, how about the Rams getting seven points against
the Niners at home? That's a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
That's an interesting one too, But it's an interesting one
that makes me go the other way. But it's interesting
too when you think about cmax out, Deebo Samuel's out,
and maybe that plays into the line.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
But again it makes me think that maybe.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
This goes the other way, especially, you know, if the
Rams don't get off to a fast start, become a
one dimensional team that really plays in the forty nine.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Ers hands, all right, Arizona Cardinals plus three against the
Lions at home.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
That's what I like. That's what I like.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think at a whole underd like that usually tougher
for a West Coast team going east and east going west.
But I still think the way they've played this year, like,
that's why I take the three points, all right. So
basically what we're doing here is we're work shopping a
three team parlay courtesy of DraftKings.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
So if you were to like to listen to this
and go, all right, so we kind of like those
three games. We like the Cleveland Browns minus is six
and a half, the Dallas Cowboys getting a point, even
though we're guys on the other side of that. All right,
Well listen, it's us. We're doing this together, all right,
So we support each other on this show. I told
you Bowl and Axe think backdraft. So we got Cleveland
minus six and a half, we got Dallas getting a
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point at home, and we've got Arizona getting three points
at home. This is a nice little three team parlay. Baby,
like a little three team parlay. So you throw in
ten bucks there, you look around and you go, all right,
this is going to pay out plus five eighty one.
So a ten dollars parlay plays out five eighty one
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Speaker 2 (30:38):
What is this I don't know if it is bad Reckna,
beds are burning?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
What oay?
Speaker 11 (30:51):
The song?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
No, what's the theme? What is it in reference to?
I don't know, beds are Burning.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I had to take a guess, like, are you a
big like sixteen Candles all those kind of movies back
in the day, good movies?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Shockingly, No, I'm not a very good movie buff. I'm
mostly Disney movies.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, because this feels like that era of music.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It is from the eighties. It's midnight oil. I believe
it's talking about the environment or something burning, destroying the
earth or whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Well at least people paid attention. So they're still doing.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
That back that high.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, and they're Australian. All right. Do you know you
mentioned sixteen Candles? You know the guy who was like
the love interest, the jock in sixteen Candles, Like, I
don't even know the guy's real name, but he was
the one that was like the popular guy that Molly
Ringwald was like, I guess ended up.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Falling or he fell for her. You know that guy
just people shoffling because pronounce it.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I don't remember, but I just know that he left acting,
just wasn't into it and started a furniture store, just
started building crushing it by the oh yeah, just building
his own furniture. It was like, yeah, these people are
too weird. I want to go like work with my
hands and just went and started building tables and furniture
and started his own business. Let's go there, let's go
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Speaker 12 (32:20):
Yeah, this is one of those. Uh, of course he
did lead. This is a guy that my dad always
talks about going up against in uh for parts. When
he was an actor. He wanted to be Ducky and
sixteen Candles. My dad was like runner up to this guy.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
No, I'm not talking about Ducky.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
We're not talking about Ducky.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Kay, Ducky the jock, the jock, okay my bed.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah. Is it Jake Ryan in the movie? How do
you remember that?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I think that is.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, I mean I used to. I mean that movie
came out in the Yarl was born. But I've seen
the movie.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, good movie? Is it Jake Ryan? Like that's that
sounds accurately, like if you look up that correct.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Why are we asking we have Eddie Eddie's and Eddie
was alive during that time. He was not just a
child totally pretending to be alive.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Slash just bailed, So I would I would much rather
rely on Eddie's movie critic or as a movie critic
over Lee.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Any day of the week.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
He and Eddie agree on movies.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
There was there was one.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
There was The Batman, and you both agree that you
thought Michael Keaton is the best Batman.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I thought it was the nipples they got off on.
We got off of that here isn't agree, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I got off a term.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, probably could have laid that out better.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
That was the thing you guys were arguing about the packs.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
There wasn't to be fair, It wasn't it was. I
don't know that everyone's arguing about it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I think we were learning about it because it was
something that I never noticed before until I don't know
who brought that up, but well it.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Always comes up pun intended.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
All right, Uh, well we'll listen. You know, we transition.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Transition smoothly from that over to this. I don't know
if you're a big fan of the movie Chucky, but
the guy in the NFL world who was called Chucky
for all those years. John Gruden, I mean, apparently he's
still got an interest in coming back. He was talking
to cbssports dot Com and there was the you know,
(34:38):
the the possibility was floated out there about what about college,
like if not the NFL because you got this, you know,
pending legal situation with the NFL. What about college? John
Gruden told CBS Sports the following quote, Yeah, I'm interested
in coaching. My dad was college coach. I was a
college coach at Pitt. My wife was a cheerleader at
Tennessee when I met her. Hell, yeah, I'm interested in coaching.
(35:00):
I know I can help a team. I know it
can help young players get better, and I know I
can hire a good staff and that's the only thing
I can guarantee. But yeah, I'm very interested in coaching
at any level period. Does John Gruden get another crack
at this thing, because I think he does.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I think it's going to happen. I think there's going
to be some interested parties. I think it's an interesting
time too that he would want to look to get
back into college football, coaching college football, I should say,
I don't think he's been with a college program since
nineteen ninety one. I think it's with Pittsburgh as a
wide receivers coach. So it's been quite some time. There's
been a lot of changes. It'll be interesting to see
(35:38):
how I have used it. But all those changes have
flowed in the direction of professional football. I mean even
the expanded playoff system. Now you're looking at nil players
being compensated. So I think when it comes down to it,
it can make some sense because he could sell a
fan base on his success. You know, he's won a
Super Bowl and all that's unbelievable character, So he'd be
(36:01):
able to fundraise, he'd be able to you know, do
all that stuff. The only wrench in this side of
all this is that if you ask most head coaches
in college football what percentage of their day amounts to
coaching football, it's probably not as much as people think.
And I think that's the issue is John Grutin loves football.
(36:25):
He's got like that fired and coaches, you know football
Association deal where he you know, brings in coaches have
been fire to watch film, they kind of go through
a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
They you know, he's been helping out with an Italian team.
I don't laugh.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm pretty sure, he's a consultant with like the Multo Seamen.
All right, yeah, I know I knew that was coming
for me, RIGHTA. But he loves football, and that's where
I feel like it's not going to be probably what
he thinks it's going to be, because there's so many
other ways head coaches in college football being pulled right now.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Look at Chip Kelly.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
That's a prime example of a guy who was in
a head coaching spot and then leaves to go be
an offensive coordinator because you don't get the coach.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
You know, you have to be a coordinator.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Position coach if you actually want to watch film, tak
to players, coach a ball. Otherwise you're doing all sorts
of other things that are outside the realm of what
that title actually portrays.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Remember that was Rick Patino's point when people were critical
of how Saint John's was playing, and you know he
made him himself, was critical of his own team. But
like his point was, you know, he's kind of like
during the day he's having to set up like luncheons
and dinners and meetings with nil folks and trying to
raise money and get that whole thing figured out that
(37:43):
like you can't really focus on coaching, like it's all
the other business stuff that comes in to play here.
I just look and Gruden's, you know, only sixty one.
And I say that because he's been doing it for
so long, like at the highest of level that you know,
he clearly still is the energy to do it, clearly
still has a desire to do it. And I just
(38:04):
wonder would he be open to being a coordinator if
he wasn't going to get the head coaching job, would
he be open to being a cord Jerry Glanville was
I think was a defensive coordinator last year at some place,
Like I wonder if there was an opportunity or if
somebody would be threatened by his presence to bring him
in to want to take over an offense somewhere, which
(38:24):
would be Listen, you know, we see how the NFL
legal stuff plays out, but you know, the guy can
coach regardless.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Of he is actually now the Northwestern Oklahoma State defensive
coordinator is not coaching anywhere last year though in regards
to Jerry Glanville, Jerry Glanville, love him, Oklahoma State. Jees,
that's a mouthful a lot going on there.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
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