September 24, 2024 • 39 mins
Myles Garrett injuries are less than ideal. The Raiders consider a change at quarterback. Reggie Bush sues everyone under the sun. Plus the latest edition of the BQ Top 15.
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about me having the Bengals going to the Super Bowl
capt that minimum.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Hey, buddy, buddy, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Well and and just.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
So people know, and LeVar will appreciate this because he
was probably closer to this, this era, this battle, like
he might recall it better than we do. But like
back when it was Bernie and Boomer, you know, the
battle for Ohio, Cincinnati versus Cleveland. I mean, I grew
up in that and and that's what this was. You know,
I picked the Browns to go to the Super Bowl
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and you picked the Bengals, and we both look like
absolute idiots right now.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I mean, yeah, it's a lot of season left though. Well,
I got I got the I got the lid on
on Cleveland. I'm sorry they just ain't gonna get better.
But since you get a cap on him? Yeah, no cap?
How that literally no cap, but the lid.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Is on them.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I mean I would think there would be cap,
then there is, Well, you know they're lying. That's like,
you don't mean Is that what it means? Like when
you say no cap or that's cap Like, no cap
means you're not lying.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Cat means I took it literally, is like, hey man,
there's no ceiling, no cap like this thinking you know,
well for Cleveland there's no bottom. Oh hey, I don't.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Know, there is a bottom. It just needs to be
sized all.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, make sure you brought that thing out.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yeah, talking about right there, tell you some you hang
that anywhere near the zone. Quinn's gonna turn and burn
on that. That's how it's done.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
All I know is Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And since he got Ohio on the y'all got y'all
got the buck eyes though the buck.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Eyes the buck eye, Miles Garrett's got some problems. H
he spoke Miles Garrett, the star defensive end for the
Cleveland Browns about this nagging foot issue he's been dealing with,
and he described the situation at a news conference this morning.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Just a foot. That's small little things going on. So
I mean, I think the foot's feeling good or feeling better.
That's one thing or another. So it's kind of just
well feeding into each other right now, and nothing sitting
right because nothing has time to heal because I'm leaning
on something else and I'm compensating here to you know,
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make something hurt there. And it's just been. It's been,
like I said, a cycle.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
And he said it was spreading up his leg like
whatever the pain was.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, when you say something, all right, here's my history
of dealing with the Browns and foot injuries.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Get a second opinion. God man had a Liz Frank injury.
They are better go advice. Oh you could just cast it.
I'll heal properly and now look like quasi motive the
rest of my life or that.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So thanks, thanks Cleveland, appreciate, appreciate that I had to
deal with that for the rest of my NFL career.
What happened in the NFL career, Well, I had a
foot and a half that I was playing on for
the rest of my career. But in all seriousness, LeVar
said it before too, like feet and anything weight bearing
like that. People you know on the outside, I mean,
you deal with this in your daily life. Hell, I'm
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dealing with it right now. The sprained ankle. It's like
it's hard to get that stuff calm down, figured out
so you can get back to normal. And imagine playing
at that level with having some sort of foot or
ankle issue when you're expected to be at the top
of your game and they need them to be. I mean,
that's the reality of the Browns right now. Go back
to their only win versus the season only looks worse
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and worse given how bad the Jaguars look, But that
was largely a defensive battle with a couple offensive highlights involved.
And so this team really, if you look at last year,
their defense carried them and it's going to have to
be carried by the defense this year until the offense
figures things out. And to not have your best player
one hundred percent healthy, that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
If Males Garrett isn't playing, that defense isn't going to
be as effective. If that defense is not as effective,
their loss is will most likely be worse. I mean,
that's just what it is. That's it's like, that's the TJ.
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Wade effect. If they don't have Miles Garrett, they're going
to I mean they're already losing anyway, but they're going
to lose, like lose a lot more than what they
would have if at least if their defense was able
to give them more.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
That's my belief. I mean, some would say you can't
expect it from the offense.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Some would say that, you know, the saving grace this
week is that they're playing the Raiders who just lost
to Carolina and didn't lose, got their asses chewed up
and spit out. Uh in Las Vegas by the Red Rifle.
By the way, people made sure to point out Brian
Finley called him the red Rocket yesterday. Dang that he
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did call him the Red Rock. Probably not the one
you want to go with. Probably you see my face
when he said.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
But that's Findley.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I mean, he just he constantly wants to create some
sort of discussion about what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, he's well, that was a good one, but no,
we seemed the gloss over it, so I just let
it go.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But I did repeat after.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Him looking at you to see if you was going
to respond to it. But he did call him to Rocket,
I mean, and not Ishmael by the way, No, not Isma,
not twenty five.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
So the Raiders on the subject of that game, Brown's
Raiders are kind of toying with the idea of maybe
making a quarterback change, whether it be Gardner Minshew or
Aid O'Connell. Connell came in relief against Carolina and played
pretty well, but it was garbage time, so what the
hell does that mean? And it does feel like if
he's out there calling for we need to make business
decisions and there's got to be a change. The easiest
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fix would probably be go to the backup quarterback, considering
these two guys were battling it out during the preseason,
and if you want to really rattle the team, we'll
just throw an Aid and O'Connell and let everybody know that.
You know, it's going to cost some people their jobs.
But the problem is, I don't look at this and
go Gardner Minshew's played terribly. I don't think he's played bad.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
He's completing like seventy percent of his passes, like seventy
four percent. That's got to be close to the league
lead or up there.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
So is it just because that's the easiest fix to make, Like,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I mean again, you know, I'm not in that locker room,
and you know who knows what they're telling him behind
the scenes. But I don't even know where he ranks
as far as, like, you know, quarterback play in the NFL.
But I don't believe he's the issue. I mean, and
they're one win. He had a game winning drive to
drive him down for a field goal to win it.
It's like he's he hasn't been that bad. I mean,
maybe they feel like there's more production there in the
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passing game somewhat.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
I just it's hard to put your finger on it.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I just I don't know many guys who you know,
are thrown, you know before twohundred and fifty yards a
game and completely seventy four percent of their passes right
now in the NFL, Like, like, how many guys are
doing both those things? Probably not a lot. So how
are they losing that way? Who's that game? I mean?
I mean, defensively speaking, they got absolutely worked last week.
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It worked, and I thought that was what Antonio appears
excuse me was was was referring to when he said
guys made businesses. I think I think you're right that
because I think he put I think he pays a
little closer attention to that.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Maybe I'm wrong in that assessment, but I don't know
that that's how I viewed it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
At least I think it's interesting they did beat the Ravens.
Jonas like, why are you acting like? Why you acting
like the Raiders are a bye week? They did beat
the Ravens in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I mean, I think Baltimore kind of gave them away.
By the way, Minshew is top six in passing yards,
all right, and then completion percentage is a little tough.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
But let me sort through this and see.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
He is amongst quarterbacks top six as well. I mean,
guys that qualify for O'Connell's completely.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
His passes too.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It looks like, let's call him top five's assuming a
certain amount.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Of past attempts. So, by the way, I gotta say,
I know Berto was ready.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I mean he was right. Oh yeah, Berto's done with
the entire thing he's saying down.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, But the problem is Berto doesn't have to wake
up at midnight to do the show.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Anymore. Whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
So he just goes to the Raiders bar and gets
evaporated and then just starts laying into whoever loses a
game for the Raiders and once everybody.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'll be honest with Even if Tom Brady came back
to the Raiders, I think Berto at some point in season, what.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
He would say something about, Yes, it just would Yes,
it's always somebody's fault, somebody's It's like it's always it's
always something else, like only one TV won a Super
Bowl and it's like it just.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, and whoever and the Raiders. If it's not the Raiders,
then they stared everyone needs to be fired and everyone's gone,
and listen, he was the guy who was ready to
we got to get rid of Derek Carr. Got Derek Carr.
I try to tell you, did you going to regret
saying that they would do anything? Car? Right now?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Lee, by the way, are you texting with your watch?
Is that what's happening here? Because I just got your text.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, it's very hard to text for me.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Does your phone have a virus or something like?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's close, that's the first guest. No, no virus. Uh,
it might have got a little water damage a few
days ago, and right now it looks like the Poultergeist
is coming out of my phone.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Wait, why to get water damaged?
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Might have fallen in some water, so.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
He, Lee, where were you at when it fell into water?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
A pool?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Oil? It a pool? You forget you had it in
your pocket.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It just barely splashed in the pool and I grabbed it.
And it's been fine up until this morning when I
woke up here. It's been doing.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
What were you doing when your phone dropped in the pool?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I was watching football?
Speaker 6 (11:48):
So how'd your phone dropping?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Whose pool? My pool? Your pool? What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Were you watching on your phone? And you're still at
the same place? Yeah, I met my conda. Okay, that's see,
that's breaking news.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Is this a new place?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
No? This is is your back at your condo?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Right, I've been at the condo.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
It's my month.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I thought you are you?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Are you by your Oh? It's his mom. I thought
you guys were getting rid of this, Lee.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I'm trying. I'm trying.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
It's my month. So so you guys are still doing
this whole trading off thing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, can fire ouse. I'm trying. I'm trying everything.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I can.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, the condo is a mess, the car is a mess,
and now my phone's a mess.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Wait hey, okay, let's just put this all together. Let's
put Jesus. So when your car you broken, you're moving
stuff out of the condo into your car. That's because
you had to move out for the month.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Uh yeah, I was putting stuff in storage.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Okay, So you can't keep stuff at your own condo.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I do keep a lot of st uf at my
condo most.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Of my head. You're saying, like, basically, when it's not
you can't go get it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Listen what I'm preparing to sell it. So I have
to move out. I have to declutter the place, make
it look like you know, it doesn't have a bunch
of personal stuff out in there. So I was moving
a lot of that to storage.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Tan, I mean, and then the super kitchen happened in
the back of your car.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yes, and then the car killed itself, and I lost
my work laptop, and now my car's gone, and my
condo's up for sale, and now my phone is dying.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So you know what, but at least you got priorities.
You didn't go to Disneyland last Friday.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, I needed a little happiness in my life.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I asked the question because he was trying to write
particular and it came out on the text part ocular,
and so I figured, okay that that might be an
issue with And now that you're looking at your phone,
it looks like you're staring at a copy machine like
it's very distracting.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I don't know how you dropped it in the water,
but I.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Just sent you a video of how it might have
fallen in the water.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
So how can you send video? Oh that's why? Okay.
By the way, oh wow, my man looked like Jake
the snake. He does oh heang lee?
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Have we cut them oil yet?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I'm gonna keep it through the weekend and then get
I gotta. I actually got to clean.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It up before the first steps. The first step we
take and clean up your life.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
So that's how you dropped in the pool. You had
it in the pool. I did it in the pool.
Why I was enjoyed myself? Oh man, all right, well
there we go, two pros and a cup of Joe.
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here on FSR. We're also going to have the BQ
Top fifteen coming up here in just a couple of
moments from now. But first, for all the latest from
around the world of sports, we turn it over to
Martin Wise.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
The Cincinnati Bengals now oh and three after losing to
the Washington Commanders thirty eight to thirty three. Joe Burrow
had three touchdown passes and the lost two touchdown catchers
for Jamar Chase, but Jayde Daniel stole the show twenty
one to twenty three passing. That ninety one point four
completion percentage is the highest for a rookie with a
minimum of twenty attempts in the game. Three total touchdowns,
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including this one.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
They got a snap it on the third and seven
and they do Bengals bring the house. Jayde Low's wing up.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
For mccloria their zone day catchack he did touchdown.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
Ja oh wow, he's had a loss of words. That
was I mean, it was a great throw and catch
by Jaydon Daniels to Terry McLaurin. Thank you to the
Big one hundred Commander's Radio network for that call. It
was the first game in over sixty years also without
a punt or a turnover.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Buffalo is three and ZHO.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
After beating the Jaguars in the second game of mon
of the Night Football.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
They led thirty four to three at the half.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Forty seven to ten was the final score. Josh Allen
had four touchdown passes.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
He also had six carries forty four.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Yards, and Hamlin got his first career interception Trevor Lawrence
finished twenty one for thirty eight, one hundred and seventy
eight yards passing with a touchdown and that afore i
mentioned interception. He's lost eight straight starts dating back to
last season. In baseball, the Phillies clinched the NL's title
after beating the Cubs six to two. It's the first
time since twenty eleven that the Phillies have won the division.
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Houston could have clinched his division, but lost to Seattle
six to one. The Diamondbacks lost to the Giant six
to three. Arizona leads Atlanta by one and a half
games with the final NL wildcard spot. For the AL
wild card, the Tigers and the Royals lead the Twins
by one game for the last two wildcard spots, and
in the NLF, the Dodgers have a three game lead
on the Padres.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Back to you, guys, first time in over sixty years,
no punt, no turnover in a game. Damn well that's
not good. Crazy too, considering you had a rookie quarterback, right, Yeah,
that's the team you would have expected to punt or
rather turnover, especially earlier the season.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
He just had two incompletions the entire game.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Kind of a wild stat also considering everyone's complaining about, man,
what's wrong with offense?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Like, dude, they need to punt. It's okay, they haven't
punted in a while with their last what was it
eight quarters? Whatever it is? They say college offense, you know,
college offense.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I mean, listen now, and there's only one way that
they communicate with the defense this week.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
They didn't want to look them in the eye.
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Off well from five to fifteen, more.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like the BQ Top fIF the Top twenty five.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I'm just seeing things that I never thought exists.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
When you've got the BQ Top fifteen.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Right, that's why, folks the top fifteen for this week.
We've got some changes, in particular at the top. Coming
off their big win in Norman, Oklahoma. The Tennessee Volunteers
are now four and oh, I'm moving them all the
way up to number one. I just think they're the
most complete team in college football right now. I know
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there's some people who are upset if you're a Georgia
fan or a Texas fan, but.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
I'm looking at this Tennessee team.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
You look at them defensively, They've got all the pieces
and they've got all.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
The stats to back it up this far.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
They've got one of the better wins too, going to Norman,
Oklahoma to get.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
That win versus the Sooners.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Nico Iamaliava is one of the best quarterbacks then the
country in a perfect system for him. So Tennessee jumps
up one spot to the number one spot in the country.
I've got Texas at number two, they're down one. This
has nothing to do with Arch Manning or Quinn your
as the quarterback situation. I just think Tennessee right now
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is the team to beat at this point. Arch actually
did play pretty well versus Louisiana Monroe, which we expected.
Georgia I've got at the number three spot, same spot
they were before. Ohio State's still at number four. No
changes there, some early struggles, a little bit pulling away
from Marshall. However they got it together in the second half.
Ole Miss, same exact spot. Number six, same thing with
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Bama coming off the by getting ready for a huge
game against Georgia this week, and Georgia also coming off
the bye.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Next up is Miami at number seven.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Really hard to move them ahead of any of the
teams ahead of them at this point in time.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I'd like to because I love camp Ordon.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I think next to Travis Hunter, it's cam Ward that's
up for the Heisman. But this Miami team might surprise
a lot of people depending on how far they go
in the ACC this year, winning the championship, maybe even
getting a buye, depending on how it all works out
when it's all said and done. But keep keeping an
eye and watching cam Ward. He is an absolute stud.
Now the changes really start to kick in Oregon up
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two spots from number ten. I'm not even so, I'm
not even sure right now. I'm so much a believer
in this Oregon team. I think we're going to find
out a lot more here in a couple of weeks
when they take on the buck Eyes. But at this
point that win over Boise looking more legit and looking better,
and maybe they'll continue to round into form, but still
some concerns there offensively and defensively. Up to the number
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nine spot. Penn State a big one this week, though,
we will see how far if they can win this
week versus Illinois, a top twenty five team and the
Ape Pole, how far that can help them climb. At
this point though, we're starting getting the meat of the
Big ten schedule, so should be a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Utah, They're up to spots to number ten.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I've got this coming off of a win in Stillwater
versus Oklahoma State this past week and not even having
Cam Rise in the starting quarterback. It was Isaac Wilson
to lead the Utes to victory on the road. Their
defense kept the minute. Mackay Bernard, their running back, stole
the show. I'm talking about Ali Gordon for Oklhama State.
Was Mackay Bernard, who's had tuite the season, a really
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incredible story of his patience to wait as a fifth
year running back for that final opportunity.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Up to number eleven, or excuse me, down to number eleven.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Is Missouri a close loss to Vandy, and honestly, Vandy
should have won that game. They had multiple opportunities in
the end. We give credit for Missouri winning in the end. However,
still outside of the top ten, they're dropped into number eleven.
Up to number twelve, up eight spots. I've actually got Michigan.
That's a huge win and maybe one that gives us
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a sense of what's going to be happening for this
Michigan team this year. Offensively just bowling southerns up and
down the field for four quarters, defensively putting pressure on
Miller Moss and finding ways of winning a Taiwan at home.
So they go up to number twelve. I've got USC
down five spots more than were last week. Excuse me,
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just one spot behind them though all those questions, if
did they fix the defensive problems? How much better is
the offensive line? And you know, one game sample size,
it's tough to put too much into it, but did
not look good for USC joining the Big ten, and
maybe what this is for shouting for the future. Up
six spots, though, is a team that we've got to
start talking about. They've kind of been a sleeper. They're
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starting to creep up. They're starting to emerge. It's Iowa
State at number fourteen, one of the more underrated teams
in college football. Roco Beck. They're quarterbacks playing great. Jalen
Newell is one of the best wide receivers in college football.
And that is a salty defense. And with the blowout
for the Floyd of Rosedale between Iowa and Minnesota, Iowa
blew out Minnesota. That win over Iowa is looking better
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and better. And then finally up to number fifteen, up
six spots with a solid winever Jorgiana Tech. This past week,
it's Louisville and they will travel to South Bend to
take on the Fighting Irish. That'll be a game we'll
preview and give you some bets on later this week.
But that is my college football top fifteen heading into
week five. Invest in the business night. Put that in
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your ap pipe, just smoking, all right? Is Notre Dame
still sixteen? Are you still holding?
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Jeez? Yes, I mean, look, come on, they had a
hard time pulling away from Miam of Ohio. All Right,
there are some highlights, there are some good things. I've
got to be honest, I'm not going to be biased.
All right, this is my job. Now.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Everyone knows I love Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I literally creative a collective that helped this program for
the past three years.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Without it, honestly, there was no plan.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
So like, trust me, no one's going to question my
love for my alma mater, my experience there and everything
I've tried to do since then to help them out
veterans there. But the reality is this team's got an
opportunity this week to prove that they can get back
into that conversation. That's how jarring of a loss. That
home loss was to Northern Illinois, who, by the way,
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just lost to Buffalo, so they entered the top twenty five,
and this past week they just lost lost to Buffalo,
so they're out. So now that loss is even looking
worse for Notre Dame in a sense, and it does.
It does bring the conversation. I asked you guys after
that loss, you know, if they went eleven and one,
do they still get in? And there's people that I
think look at the expanded playoff and say that's one
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of the downsides of it is like every game and
we've talked about this on our pregame show, when you
played in the you know, BCS era, when you played
in the even the fourteen playoff era, you felt if
you lost one game, you were out of it. And
even though that stinks, it still adds to the stakes
of why every game mattered so much in college football.
(25:54):
We look at the Bengals, for example, who lost again
last night on Monday Night Football, and we're like, yeah,
odds are there not going to make the playoffs, but
you know, they got fourteen more games, so we'll see
what happens. Like, we used to not say that in
college football, but now we're starting to say that. So
I understand the frustration for some out there who liked
the way it used to be because college football has
really always been about the regular season and now we're
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trying to create this postseason playoff scenario, which, again we
can always you know, go through the philosophical conversations if
that's the best way to you know, determine who's the
national champion. But my whole, my general point is they've
got to go prove it on the field, and up
to this point, I don't believe that they've been able
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to prove that on the field yet, and I think
they just got to go undefeed it the rest of
the way.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Well, and they need USC to probably go undefeed it
the rest of the way.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
They need Florida State to continue to build back up.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Right. They got their first win this past week versus CAL,
although a game that honestly have mentioned in many of
my Florida State buddies. Cal probably could have won that
game many opportunities to and they crap bed there. So
they need Florida State to keep winning. They need USC
to keep winning, They need Georgia Tech to win after
they took a loss this past week. You know, there's
a bunch of things they need to keep happening. So
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their strength of schedule looks more difficult, because that was
the problem coming in the season is everyone was so
high on Notre Dame to make the playoff because the
schedule was so weak. I mean, we never played a
group of five type team outside of Navy, which was
a separate agreement. It goes back to World War Two
and so there's a lot of history there and that's
why they played that rather every year. But we never
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played a MAC team, we never played a Sun Belt team,
and you took pride in that and the type of
skeleule you played. That has been completely transformed. And even
now the five games versus ACC opponents that Notre Dame
has a partial agreement with, that's water down the schedule.
The ACC hasn't been very good. So the reality is
this is a water down schedule and this is a
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team coming into the season. I looked at it on
paper going they should be a minimum of eleven and one,
if not twelve and zero.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
I mean, you've got Florida State coming to your house.
You have all this.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Time to build up this offense to get to the
end of the season against Southern cal to be ready
for that. And they had a bunch of changes on
their side of things. So you know, the schedule set
up extremely well with the exception of that first game
which they won for them to be able to go
undefeated or potentially one loss. Now you look at after
that performance versus Northern Illinois, the struggles this past week,
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even breaking away from Miamia, ohiolat times, and you just go,
all right, it's gonna be a week to we think
because you're not really show sure which team is going
to show up. I hear you on the listen.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
You lose a game now and it doesn't have the
significance and maybe it once did because of the expanded playoff,
and I agree with you, But I think once we
get to those expanded playoffs and we're seeing home playoff
games going to be like you know what, small price
and by week come on, man, yeah, man, it's gonna
be so long.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
You don't want to lose. You just have more of
an opportunity to still get in.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
And it's not gonna affect the rivalries like Michigan are
gonna want to beat each other regardless.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
So here's to me.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I think, what's going to make it more exciting in
the regular season or.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Bring back some of that.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
They need to find a way of creating more commonalities
amongst scheduling. So now that we have four, you know,
power four autonomous conferences, we need to find a way
of making sure everyone plays the same conference amount of
conference games and in regards to non conference scheduling. Like
my pitch is this as the as the playoff looks
to expand, I think all of these Bowl games outside
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of the New Year six that are part of the
quarterfinal and semi finals should do kickoff classics. You know,
you now take those games, make them neutral site games
and allow teams to go play in weeks zero, one,
two three, if you will, before they get into conference play,
and allow them to go play these kickoff classics.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
All over the country where these bull.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Games are at those venues, and so you create intrigue there.
But you're going to create better matchups and you're playing
the same amount of conference games. But make those non
conference games. You know, however, you go about doing it
better than what we're seeing for the most part, or
at least in scheduling, you know, schedule one of the
big boys, you know, schedule you know at least one
or two other Power four makes some sort of mandate.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Because that's the thing that you have in the NFL
where you look.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
At it and you say, well, they're all NFL teams,
So you're not looking at saying well, they've got a
watered down schedule, like the parody in the NFL is
the parody in the NFL. There is at times a
huge gap between scheduling because this team's playing an FCS opponent,
you know, as opposed to another team who's playing another
Power four opponent one week in the non conference schedule.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
So that would go a long way.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I think in alleviate it alleviating some of the issues
that I've got with an expanded playoff, because we already
don't have schedules that are equal in comparison, So it's
unfair to then compare a team that has three losses
but played a gauntlet versus a team that has one
that didn't play anybody so hard. One.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
By the way, there was a mate, so Marcus Freeman
announced Jade Mickey is gonna red shirt, and so you
were pointing out this is the time when this goes
down right correct now?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yes, So, so just for college football fans to be
aware of this, and this is gonna happen more and more,
in particular at teams where there there's they probably don't
have any chance for the playoffs, so they've got multiple losses.
We're now four games in the season, which means you've
got the ability to steal red shirt. You can't play
any more than four games in any given season. So
this is this is you know, the first and it's
(31:30):
honestly surprising. This young man, by the way, has been.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Through a lot.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
He lost his mother last year and just a tremendous
young man has has you know, battled through a lot
of stuff, you know, off the field with dealing with that.
But he is he said like, hey, I want an
opportunity to go play and start and play somewhere else.
So you know, that's you know, one of the good
things about the transfer portal is you have the opportunity
to do so. But he's stopping at this point in
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time this season to preserve his eligibility for another year.
And it's it's not unique to Notre name. You're going
to find this out a lot of other schools. Whereas again,
if they have no chance of postseason aspirations or things
aren't going well, a lot of guys who've only played
four games are probably getting the advice of go ahead
and telling.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
You want a red shirt.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
If you have that red shirt, and let's go try
to find an opportunity to go play somewhere else where
you can start and get more tape out there.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I mean, so, do you think, like, who do you
think sees about whether or not they can red shirt?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
First?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Do you think it's Cam Rising or cam McCormick, like,
go see if they have another one left in them,
I mean if Campbell.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Well, both those teams are not in the category of
teams that are not playing for something. Damn, Utah's the
top of the Big twelve and miam is top of
the ACC. So unfortunately for your your dream scenario here,
both these players are most likely going to be looking at,
you know, still playing the season. Cam McCormick, going into
year ten next year, do you.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Think they'll ever start start start taking starters out and
resting them in the last games of the season because
it playoff run.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Potentially, But you know, you've got here's the problem with
that is you've got things you're playing for, you know,
conference title games, which could equate to a first round
by So that's the thing is, like there's gonna be
no scenario because you have a committee picking this.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
There is subjectivity to it.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
So you don't have like where, hey, we've flinched the
division or we've clinched the playoff spot. You might assume
like hey, number one, team number two, number three, whatever they're.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
They're going to be in.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
But if they're that high, they probably have to play
a conference game and they probably want to go try
to win that conference game. And then the other thing
is they aren't guaranteed to buy, so I think most
teams would rather not have to play a game and
be automatically into that next round, as opposed to saying, oh,
we'll just host one, right, yeah, I mean it's it's
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gonna be fun. Man.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
I just can't wait for home playoff games. I just
want to see what that atmosphere is like in collegeable,
especially if it's Since State college.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I mean, I know a few people there who up
if I appreciate that. Man, You know, I love about
Penn State and it it surprised me, and I don't
know why. Maybe I just ignorant to it. Just the
East Coast influence, like all the all the bros from
like New Jersey, New York, you know. It just it's
a rowdy fan base, man, like it was. I was
not prepared for that. I thought it'd be like more
(34:19):
like Pennsylvanians, like a little more Midwest and so forth,
you know, some Ohio folks. But it's it's definitely got
more of an East Coast influence. So I've enjoyed it
like that, that crowd, that group They're awesome.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
It's a special, special place.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I completely buy in and understand you know how you
feel the way you do about it, because every time
I go there like that, it's pretty special.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
We're heading there, Jonas and Lee, we we will miss you, Q,
but don't worry.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I'll to tend them. I was hoping there was like
an outside chance we would somehow be going there, with
the way that the scheduling and everything worked out, that
would have been cool.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Well yeah, I think that was somewhere somehow on the table.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
But I don't know if there's a I don't I
don't know what goes into the decision of where we go.
I just kind of show up and someone throws me
a suit and I just start sweating.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
That's an essence how that works.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Which is probably gonna happen this weekend, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Well I'll tell you what we're going to be on
draft this uh this weekend.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Oh yeah, I can't wait for LeVar Elite bloggers. They're
they're going to be on draft.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Hurricane Altmeyer coming to town. Yeah, talking about it is
going to rain.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
I try to tell you, man, I don't sleep, don't
sleep on that team.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yeah, Illinois, baby, it's going to rain. It is going
to be Illinois raining on us.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
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(36:52):
I just want to say USC, the PAC twelve and
the NCAA for nil compensation from past. I'm a little
confused here because I thought everything was was was all
good now that he was welcome back to USC and
now apparently you know they're getting taken to court.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
So just so, I mean, there's a lot of baffling
things for this, right because the heisman was taken away
off obviously after the accusations of money that was taken then,
and I guess he's suing for back pay a meaning
for the monies that he missed out on during an
era where and I al was not allowed. The problem
with this is if you open up these floodgates where
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every single player then there's no money, like there's not
enough money. The NCAA will just file for bankruptcy and
then that way they don't have to pay anyone. Southern
Cal at that point will come to some sort of
resolution or agreement, but they'll also be able to sit
there and say they don't have enough money to be
able to pay all the student athletes in its entirety
(37:56):
for that period of time. So I'm not really sure
what the point is. I think the other thing is
you're you're tarnishing what was I guess a amended relationship
by doing this. I mean, I jokingly threw this out
on Twitter hypothetically, but I think if you're suing your university,
they're probably not letting you back on campus.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
They're probably not letting you back to go lead the team.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Maybe I'm wrong, maybebe something Cal because they do some
things differently out there. Maybe they would allow him to
lead him out but out of the tunnel and lead
the team out, but uh, it's usually doesn't work that
way when you've got a lawsuit against this school that
you played for.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I would also, I guess add to it, how does
your fan base react to it? You know, you're kind
of putting your fan base in a strange situation and
maybe he doesn't care, But to me, I always looked
at it like your ability to monetize yourself through your
your built in community that you established with how you
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played and what you did in the community that you
were serving. That that I mean that earning capacity is
for a Reggie Bush is super high.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
I mean, his biggest fan base is the LA media.
They'll just kiss his ass like they always do.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I just hope whatever agreement he has with these attorneys
who's convinced him of this, that they're not getting a
cent from him, and so there's an award, because otherwise,
if he's paying them and they're making him go through
these lengths and all this stuff and he's got them
on the retainers, it's like it's just it could be
wasting money.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
And I hope it's not that. I hope it's only
if there's a reward.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
I just hope that he knows understands the magnitude and
gravity of what he's doing with USC, and you know,
eyes them in one thing USC and another.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So well, listen, we will keep you posted. Let you know.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
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about me having the Bengals going to the Super Bowl
capt that minimum.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Hey, buddy, buddy, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Well and and just.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
So people know, and LeVar will appreciate this because he
was probably closer to this, this era, this battle, like
he might recall it better than we do. But like
back when it was Bernie and Boomer, you know, the
battle for Ohio, Cincinnati versus Cleveland. I mean, I grew
up in that and and that's what this was. You know,
I picked the Browns to go to the Super Bowl
(02:30):
and you picked the Bengals, and we both look like
absolute idiots right now.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I mean, yeah, it's a lot of season left though. Well,
I got I got the I got the lid on
on Cleveland. I'm sorry they just ain't gonna get better.
But since you get a cap on him? Yeah, no cap?
How that literally no cap, but the lid.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Is on them.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I mean I would think there would be cap,
then there is, Well, you know they're lying. That's like,
you don't mean Is that what it means? Like when
you say no cap or that's cap Like, no cap
means you're not lying.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Cat means I took it literally, is like, hey man,
there's no ceiling, no cap like this thinking you know,
well for Cleveland there's no bottom. Oh hey, I don't.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Know, there is a bottom. It just needs to be
sized all.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, make sure you brought that thing out.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yeah, talking about right there, tell you some you hang
that anywhere near the zone. Quinn's gonna turn and burn
on that. That's how it's done.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
All I know is Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And since he got Ohio on the y'all got y'all
got the buck eyes though the buck.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Eyes the buck eye, Miles Garrett's got some problems. H
he spoke Miles Garrett, the star defensive end for the
Cleveland Browns about this nagging foot issue he's been dealing with,
and he described the situation at a news conference this morning.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Just a foot. That's small little things going on. So
I mean, I think the foot's feeling good or feeling better.
That's one thing or another. So it's kind of just
well feeding into each other right now, and nothing sitting
right because nothing has time to heal because I'm leaning
on something else and I'm compensating here to you know,
(04:18):
make something hurt there. And it's just been. It's been,
like I said, a cycle.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
And he said it was spreading up his leg like
whatever the pain was.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, when you say something, all right, here's my history
of dealing with the Browns and foot injuries.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Get a second opinion. God man had a Liz Frank injury.
They are better go advice. Oh you could just cast it.
I'll heal properly and now look like quasi motive the
rest of my life or that.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So thanks, thanks Cleveland, appreciate, appreciate that I had to
deal with that for the rest of my NFL career.
What happened in the NFL career, Well, I had a
foot and a half that I was playing on for
the rest of my career. But in all seriousness, LeVar
said it before too, like feet and anything weight bearing
like that. People you know on the outside, I mean,
you deal with this in your daily life. Hell, I'm
(05:04):
dealing with it right now. The sprained ankle. It's like
it's hard to get that stuff calm down, figured out
so you can get back to normal. And imagine playing
at that level with having some sort of foot or
ankle issue when you're expected to be at the top
of your game and they need them to be. I mean,
that's the reality of the Browns right now. Go back
to their only win versus the season only looks worse
(05:25):
and worse given how bad the Jaguars look, But that
was largely a defensive battle with a couple offensive highlights involved.
And so this team really, if you look at last year,
their defense carried them and it's going to have to
be carried by the defense this year until the offense
figures things out. And to not have your best player
one hundred percent healthy, that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
If Males Garrett isn't playing, that defense isn't going to
be as effective. If that defense is not as effective,
their loss is will most likely be worse. I mean,
that's just what it is. That's it's like, that's the TJ.
(06:08):
Wade effect. If they don't have Miles Garrett, they're going
to I mean they're already losing anyway, but they're going
to lose, like lose a lot more than what they
would have if at least if their defense was able
to give them more.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
That's my belief. I mean, some would say you can't
expect it from the offense.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Some would say that, you know, the saving grace this
week is that they're playing the Raiders who just lost
to Carolina and didn't lose, got their asses chewed up
and spit out. Uh in Las Vegas by the Red Rifle.
By the way, people made sure to point out Brian
Finley called him the red Rocket yesterday. Dang that he
(06:49):
did call him the Red Rock. Probably not the one
you want to go with. Probably you see my face
when he said.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
But that's Findley.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I mean, he just he constantly wants to create some
sort of discussion about what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, he's well, that was a good one, but no,
we seemed the gloss over it, so I just let
it go.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But I did repeat after.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Him looking at you to see if you was going
to respond to it. But he did call him to Rocket,
I mean, and not Ishmael by the way, No, not Isma,
not twenty five.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
So the Raiders on the subject of that game, Brown's
Raiders are kind of toying with the idea of maybe
making a quarterback change, whether it be Gardner Minshew or
Aid O'Connell. Connell came in relief against Carolina and played
pretty well, but it was garbage time, so what the
hell does that mean? And it does feel like if
he's out there calling for we need to make business
decisions and there's got to be a change. The easiest
(07:44):
fix would probably be go to the backup quarterback, considering
these two guys were battling it out during the preseason,
and if you want to really rattle the team, we'll
just throw an Aid and O'Connell and let everybody know that.
You know, it's going to cost some people their jobs.
But the problem is, I don't look at this and
go Gardner Minshew's played terribly. I don't think he's played bad.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
He's completing like seventy percent of his passes, like seventy
four percent. That's got to be close to the league
lead or up there.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
So is it just because that's the easiest fix to make, Like,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I mean again, you know, I'm not in that locker room,
and you know who knows what they're telling him behind
the scenes. But I don't even know where he ranks
as far as, like, you know, quarterback play in the NFL.
But I don't believe he's the issue. I mean, and
they're one win. He had a game winning drive to
drive him down for a field goal to win it.
It's like he's he hasn't been that bad. I mean,
maybe they feel like there's more production there in the
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passing game somewhat.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
I just it's hard to put your finger on it.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I just I don't know many guys who you know,
are thrown, you know before twohundred and fifty yards a
game and completely seventy four percent of their passes right
now in the NFL, Like, like, how many guys are
doing both those things? Probably not a lot. So how
are they losing that way? Who's that game? I mean?
I mean, defensively speaking, they got absolutely worked last week.
(09:04):
It worked, and I thought that was what Antonio appears
excuse me was was was referring to when he said
guys made businesses. I think I think you're right that
because I think he put I think he pays a
little closer attention to that.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Maybe I'm wrong in that assessment, but I don't know
that that's how I viewed it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
At least I think it's interesting they did beat the Ravens.
Jonas like, why are you acting like? Why you acting
like the Raiders are a bye week? They did beat
the Ravens in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I mean, I think Baltimore kind of gave them away.
By the way, Minshew is top six in passing yards,
all right, and then completion percentage is a little tough.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
But let me sort through this and see.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
He is amongst quarterbacks top six as well. I mean,
guys that qualify for O'Connell's completely.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
His passes too.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It looks like, let's call him top five's assuming a
certain amount.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Of past attempts. So, by the way, I gotta say,
I know Berto was ready.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I mean he was right. Oh yeah, Berto's done with
the entire thing he's saying down.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, But the problem is Berto doesn't have to wake
up at midnight to do the show.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Anymore. Whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
So he just goes to the Raiders bar and gets
evaporated and then just starts laying into whoever loses a
game for the Raiders and once everybody.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'll be honest with Even if Tom Brady came back
to the Raiders, I think Berto at some point in season, what.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
He would say something about, Yes, it just would Yes,
it's always somebody's fault, somebody's It's like it's always it's
always something else, like only one TV won a Super
Bowl and it's like it just.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, and whoever and the Raiders. If it's not the Raiders,
then they stared everyone needs to be fired and everyone's gone,
and listen, he was the guy who was ready to
we got to get rid of Derek Carr. Got Derek Carr.
I try to tell you, did you going to regret
saying that they would do anything? Car? Right now?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Lee, by the way, are you texting with your watch?
Is that what's happening here? Because I just got your text.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, it's very hard to text for me.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Does your phone have a virus or something like?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's close, that's the first guest. No, no virus. Uh,
it might have got a little water damage a few
days ago, and right now it looks like the Poultergeist
is coming out of my phone.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Wait, why to get water damaged?
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Might have fallen in some water, so.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
He, Lee, where were you at when it fell into water?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
A pool?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Oil? It a pool? You forget you had it in
your pocket.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It just barely splashed in the pool and I grabbed it.
And it's been fine up until this morning when I
woke up here. It's been doing.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
What were you doing when your phone dropped in the pool?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I was watching football?
Speaker 6 (11:48):
So how'd your phone dropping?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Whose pool? My pool? Your pool? What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Were you watching on your phone? And you're still at
the same place? Yeah, I met my conda. Okay, that's see,
that's breaking news.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Is this a new place?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
No? This is is your back at your condo?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Right, I've been at the condo.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
It's my month.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I thought you are you?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Are you by your Oh? It's his mom. I thought
you guys were getting rid of this, Lee.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I'm trying. I'm trying.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
It's my month. So so you guys are still doing
this whole trading off thing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, can fire ouse. I'm trying. I'm trying everything.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I can.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, the condo is a mess, the car is a mess,
and now my phone's a mess.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Wait hey, okay, let's just put this all together. Let's
put Jesus. So when your car you broken, you're moving
stuff out of the condo into your car. That's because
you had to move out for the month.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Uh yeah, I was putting stuff in storage.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Okay, So you can't keep stuff at your own condo.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I do keep a lot of st uf at my
condo most.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Of my head. You're saying, like, basically, when it's not
you can't go get it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Listen what I'm preparing to sell it. So I have
to move out. I have to declutter the place, make
it look like you know, it doesn't have a bunch
of personal stuff out in there. So I was moving
a lot of that to storage.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Tan, I mean, and then the super kitchen happened in
the back of your car.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yes, and then the car killed itself, and I lost
my work laptop, and now my car's gone, and my
condo's up for sale, and now my phone is dying.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So you know what, but at least you got priorities.
You didn't go to Disneyland last Friday.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, I needed a little happiness in my life.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I asked the question because he was trying to write
particular and it came out on the text part ocular,
and so I figured, okay that that might be an
issue with And now that you're looking at your phone,
it looks like you're staring at a copy machine like
it's very distracting.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I don't know how you dropped it in the water,
but I.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Just sent you a video of how it might have
fallen in the water.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
So how can you send video? Oh that's why? Okay.
By the way, oh wow, my man looked like Jake
the snake. He does oh heang lee?
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Have we cut them oil yet?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I'm gonna keep it through the weekend and then get
I gotta. I actually got to clean.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It up before the first steps. The first step we
take and clean up your life.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
So that's how you dropped in the pool. You had
it in the pool. I did it in the pool.
Why I was enjoyed myself? Oh man, all right, well
there we go, two pros and a cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with You're coming up next here though it is
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Speaker 4 (14:53):
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Top fifteen coming up here in just a couple of
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Martin Wise.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
The Cincinnati Bengals now oh and three after losing to
the Washington Commanders thirty eight to thirty three. Joe Burrow
had three touchdown passes and the lost two touchdown catchers
for Jamar Chase, but Jayde Daniel stole the show twenty
one to twenty three passing. That ninety one point four
completion percentage is the highest for a rookie with a
minimum of twenty attempts in the game. Three total touchdowns,
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including this one.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
They got a snap it on the third and seven
and they do Bengals bring the house. Jayde Low's wing up.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
For mccloria their zone day catchack he did touchdown.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
Ja oh wow, he's had a loss of words. That
was I mean, it was a great throw and catch
by Jaydon Daniels to Terry McLaurin. Thank you to the
Big one hundred Commander's Radio network for that call. It
was the first game in over sixty years also without
a punt or a turnover.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Buffalo is three and ZHO.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
After beating the Jaguars in the second game of mon
of the Night Football.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
They led thirty four to three at the half.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Forty seven to ten was the final score. Josh Allen
had four touchdown passes.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
He also had six carries forty four.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Yards, and Hamlin got his first career interception Trevor Lawrence
finished twenty one for thirty eight, one hundred and seventy
eight yards passing with a touchdown and that afore i
mentioned interception. He's lost eight straight starts dating back to
last season. In baseball, the Phillies clinched the NL's title
after beating the Cubs six to two. It's the first
time since twenty eleven that the Phillies have won the division.
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Houston could have clinched his division, but lost to Seattle
six to one. The Diamondbacks lost to the Giant six
to three. Arizona leads Atlanta by one and a half
games with the final NL wildcard spot. For the AL
wild card, the Tigers and the Royals lead the Twins
by one game for the last two wildcard spots, and
in the NLF, the Dodgers have a three game lead
on the Padres.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Back to you, guys, first time in over sixty years,
no punt, no turnover in a game. Damn well that's
not good. Crazy too, considering you had a rookie quarterback, right, Yeah,
that's the team you would have expected to punt or
rather turnover, especially earlier the season.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
He just had two incompletions the entire game.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Kind of a wild stat also considering everyone's complaining about, man,
what's wrong with offense?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Like, dude, they need to punt. It's okay, they haven't
punted in a while with their last what was it
eight quarters? Whatever it is? They say college offense, you know,
college offense.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I mean, listen now, and there's only one way that
they communicate with the defense this week.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
They didn't want to look them in the eye.
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Speaker 4 (19:07):
Off well from five to fifteen, more.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like the BQ Top fIF the Top twenty five.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I'm just seeing things that I never thought exists.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
When you've got the BQ Top fifteen.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Right, that's why, folks the top fifteen for this week.
We've got some changes, in particular at the top. Coming
off their big win in Norman, Oklahoma. The Tennessee Volunteers
are now four and oh, I'm moving them all the
way up to number one. I just think they're the
most complete team in college football right now. I know
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there's some people who are upset if you're a Georgia
fan or a Texas fan, but.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
I'm looking at this Tennessee team.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
You look at them defensively, They've got all the pieces
and they've got all.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
The stats to back it up this far.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
They've got one of the better wins too, going to Norman,
Oklahoma to get.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
That win versus the Sooners.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Nico Iamaliava is one of the best quarterbacks then the
country in a perfect system for him. So Tennessee jumps
up one spot to the number one spot in the country.
I've got Texas at number two, they're down one. This
has nothing to do with Arch Manning or Quinn your
as the quarterback situation. I just think Tennessee right now
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is the team to beat at this point. Arch actually
did play pretty well versus Louisiana Monroe, which we expected.
Georgia I've got at the number three spot, same spot
they were before. Ohio State's still at number four. No
changes there, some early struggles, a little bit pulling away
from Marshall. However they got it together in the second half.
Ole Miss, same exact spot. Number six, same thing with
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Bama coming off the by getting ready for a huge
game against Georgia this week, and Georgia also coming off
the bye.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Next up is Miami at number seven.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Really hard to move them ahead of any of the
teams ahead of them at this point in time.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I'd like to because I love camp Ordon.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I think next to Travis Hunter, it's cam Ward that's
up for the Heisman. But this Miami team might surprise
a lot of people depending on how far they go
in the ACC this year, winning the championship, maybe even
getting a buye, depending on how it all works out
when it's all said and done. But keep keeping an
eye and watching cam Ward. He is an absolute stud.
Now the changes really start to kick in Oregon up
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two spots from number ten. I'm not even so, I'm
not even sure right now. I'm so much a believer
in this Oregon team. I think we're going to find
out a lot more here in a couple of weeks
when they take on the buck Eyes. But at this
point that win over Boise looking more legit and looking better,
and maybe they'll continue to round into form, but still
some concerns there offensively and defensively. Up to the number
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nine spot. Penn State a big one this week, though,
we will see how far if they can win this
week versus Illinois, a top twenty five team and the
Ape Pole, how far that can help them climb. At
this point though, we're starting getting the meat of the
Big ten schedule, so should be a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Utah, They're up to spots to number ten.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I've got this coming off of a win in Stillwater
versus Oklahoma State this past week and not even having
Cam Rise in the starting quarterback. It was Isaac Wilson
to lead the Utes to victory on the road. Their
defense kept the minute. Mackay Bernard, their running back, stole
the show. I'm talking about Ali Gordon for Oklhama State.
Was Mackay Bernard, who's had tuite the season, a really
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incredible story of his patience to wait as a fifth
year running back for that final opportunity.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Up to number eleven, or excuse me, down to number eleven.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Is Missouri a close loss to Vandy, and honestly, Vandy
should have won that game. They had multiple opportunities in
the end. We give credit for Missouri winning in the end. However,
still outside of the top ten, they're dropped into number eleven.
Up to number twelve, up eight spots. I've actually got Michigan.
That's a huge win and maybe one that gives us
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a sense of what's going to be happening for this
Michigan team this year. Offensively just bowling southerns up and
down the field for four quarters, defensively putting pressure on
Miller Moss and finding ways of winning a Taiwan at home.
So they go up to number twelve. I've got USC
down five spots more than were last week. Excuse me,
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just one spot behind them though all those questions, if
did they fix the defensive problems? How much better is
the offensive line? And you know, one game sample size,
it's tough to put too much into it, but did
not look good for USC joining the Big ten, and
maybe what this is for shouting for the future. Up
six spots, though, is a team that we've got to
start talking about. They've kind of been a sleeper. They're
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starting to creep up. They're starting to emerge. It's Iowa
State at number fourteen, one of the more underrated teams
in college football. Roco Beck. They're quarterbacks playing great. Jalen
Newell is one of the best wide receivers in college football.
And that is a salty defense. And with the blowout
for the Floyd of Rosedale between Iowa and Minnesota, Iowa
blew out Minnesota. That win over Iowa is looking better
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and better. And then finally up to number fifteen, up
six spots with a solid winever Jorgiana Tech. This past week,
it's Louisville and they will travel to South Bend to
take on the Fighting Irish. That'll be a game we'll
preview and give you some bets on later this week.
But that is my college football top fifteen heading into
week five. Invest in the business night. Put that in
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your ap pipe, just smoking, all right? Is Notre Dame
still sixteen? Are you still holding?
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Jeez? Yes, I mean, look, come on, they had a
hard time pulling away from Miam of Ohio. All Right,
there are some highlights, there are some good things. I've
got to be honest, I'm not going to be biased.
All right, this is my job. Now.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Everyone knows I love Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I literally creative a collective that helped this program for
the past three years.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Without it, honestly, there was no plan.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
So like, trust me, no one's going to question my
love for my alma mater, my experience there and everything
I've tried to do since then to help them out
veterans there. But the reality is this team's got an
opportunity this week to prove that they can get back
into that conversation. That's how jarring of a loss. That
home loss was to Northern Illinois, who, by the way,
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just lost to Buffalo, so they entered the top twenty five,
and this past week they just lost lost to Buffalo,
so they're out. So now that loss is even looking
worse for Notre Dame in a sense, and it does.
It does bring the conversation. I asked you guys after
that loss, you know, if they went eleven and one,
do they still get in? And there's people that I
think look at the expanded playoff and say that's one
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of the downsides of it is like every game and
we've talked about this on our pregame show, when you
played in the you know, BCS era, when you played
in the even the fourteen playoff era, you felt if
you lost one game, you were out of it. And
even though that stinks, it still adds to the stakes
of why every game mattered so much in college football.
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We look at the Bengals, for example, who lost again
last night on Monday Night Football, and we're like, yeah,
odds are there not going to make the playoffs, but
you know, they got fourteen more games, so we'll see
what happens. Like, we used to not say that in
college football, but now we're starting to say that. So
I understand the frustration for some out there who liked
the way it used to be because college football has
really always been about the regular season and now we're
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trying to create this postseason playoff scenario, which, again we
can always you know, go through the philosophical conversations if
that's the best way to you know, determine who's the
national champion. But my whole, my general point is they've
got to go prove it on the field, and up
to this point, I don't believe that they've been able
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to prove that on the field yet, and I think
they just got to go undefeed it the rest of
the way.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Well, and they need USC to probably go undefeed it
the rest of the way.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
They need Florida State to continue to build back up.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Right. They got their first win this past week versus CAL,
although a game that honestly have mentioned in many of
my Florida State buddies. Cal probably could have won that
game many opportunities to and they crap bed there. So
they need Florida State to keep winning. They need USC
to keep winning, They need Georgia Tech to win after
they took a loss this past week. You know, there's
a bunch of things they need to keep happening. So
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their strength of schedule looks more difficult, because that was
the problem coming in the season is everyone was so
high on Notre Dame to make the playoff because the
schedule was so weak. I mean, we never played a
group of five type team outside of Navy, which was
a separate agreement. It goes back to World War Two
and so there's a lot of history there and that's
why they played that rather every year. But we never
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played a MAC team, we never played a Sun Belt team,
and you took pride in that and the type of
skeleule you played. That has been completely transformed. And even
now the five games versus ACC opponents that Notre Dame
has a partial agreement with, that's water down the schedule.
The ACC hasn't been very good. So the reality is
this is a water down schedule and this is a
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team coming into the season. I looked at it on
paper going they should be a minimum of eleven and one,
if not twelve and zero.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
I mean, you've got Florida State coming to your house.
You have all this.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Time to build up this offense to get to the
end of the season against Southern cal to be ready
for that. And they had a bunch of changes on
their side of things. So you know, the schedule set
up extremely well with the exception of that first game
which they won for them to be able to go
undefeated or potentially one loss. Now you look at after
that performance versus Northern Illinois, the struggles this past week,
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even breaking away from Miamia, ohiolat times, and you just go,
all right, it's gonna be a week to we think
because you're not really show sure which team is going
to show up. I hear you on the listen.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
You lose a game now and it doesn't have the
significance and maybe it once did because of the expanded playoff,
and I agree with you, But I think once we
get to those expanded playoffs and we're seeing home playoff
games going to be like you know what, small price
and by week come on, man, yeah, man, it's gonna
be so long.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
You don't want to lose. You just have more of
an opportunity to still get in.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
And it's not gonna affect the rivalries like Michigan are
gonna want to beat each other regardless.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
So here's to me.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I think, what's going to make it more exciting in
the regular season or.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Bring back some of that.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
They need to find a way of creating more commonalities
amongst scheduling. So now that we have four, you know,
power four autonomous conferences, we need to find a way
of making sure everyone plays the same conference amount of
conference games and in regards to non conference scheduling. Like
my pitch is this as the as the playoff looks
to expand, I think all of these Bowl games outside
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of the New Year six that are part of the
quarterfinal and semi finals should do kickoff classics. You know,
you now take those games, make them neutral site games
and allow teams to go play in weeks zero, one,
two three, if you will, before they get into conference play,
and allow them to go play these kickoff classics.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
All over the country where these bull.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Games are at those venues, and so you create intrigue there.
But you're going to create better matchups and you're playing
the same amount of conference games. But make those non
conference games. You know, however, you go about doing it
better than what we're seeing for the most part, or
at least in scheduling, you know, schedule one of the
big boys, you know, schedule you know at least one
or two other Power four makes some sort of mandate.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Because that's the thing that you have in the NFL
where you look.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
At it and you say, well, they're all NFL teams,
So you're not looking at saying well, they've got a
watered down schedule, like the parody in the NFL is
the parody in the NFL. There is at times a
huge gap between scheduling because this team's playing an FCS opponent,
you know, as opposed to another team who's playing another
Power four opponent one week in the non conference schedule.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
So that would go a long way.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I think in alleviate it alleviating some of the issues
that I've got with an expanded playoff, because we already
don't have schedules that are equal in comparison, So it's
unfair to then compare a team that has three losses
but played a gauntlet versus a team that has one
that didn't play anybody so hard. One.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
By the way, there was a mate, so Marcus Freeman
announced Jade Mickey is gonna red shirt, and so you
were pointing out this is the time when this goes
down right correct now?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yes, So, so just for college football fans to be
aware of this, and this is gonna happen more and more,
in particular at teams where there there's they probably don't
have any chance for the playoffs, so they've got multiple losses.
We're now four games in the season, which means you've
got the ability to steal red shirt. You can't play
any more than four games in any given season. So
this is this is you know, the first and it's
(31:30):
honestly surprising. This young man, by the way, has been.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Through a lot.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
He lost his mother last year and just a tremendous
young man has has you know, battled through a lot
of stuff, you know, off the field with dealing with that.
But he is he said like, hey, I want an
opportunity to go play and start and play somewhere else.
So you know, that's you know, one of the good
things about the transfer portal is you have the opportunity
to do so. But he's stopping at this point in
(31:56):
time this season to preserve his eligibility for another year.
And it's it's not unique to Notre name. You're going
to find this out a lot of other schools. Whereas again,
if they have no chance of postseason aspirations or things
aren't going well, a lot of guys who've only played
four games are probably getting the advice of go ahead
and telling.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
You want a red shirt.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
If you have that red shirt, and let's go try
to find an opportunity to go play somewhere else where
you can start and get more tape out there.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I mean, so, do you think, like, who do you
think sees about whether or not they can red shirt?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
First?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Do you think it's Cam Rising or cam McCormick, like,
go see if they have another one left in them,
I mean if Campbell.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Well, both those teams are not in the category of
teams that are not playing for something. Damn, Utah's the
top of the Big twelve and miam is top of
the ACC. So unfortunately for your your dream scenario here,
both these players are most likely going to be looking at,
you know, still playing the season. Cam McCormick, going into
year ten next year, do you.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Think they'll ever start start start taking starters out and
resting them in the last games of the season because
it playoff run.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Potentially, But you know, you've got here's the problem with
that is you've got things you're playing for, you know,
conference title games, which could equate to a first round
by So that's the thing is, like there's gonna be
no scenario because you have a committee picking this.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
There is subjectivity to it.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
So you don't have like where, hey, we've flinched the
division or we've clinched the playoff spot. You might assume
like hey, number one, team number two, number three, whatever they're.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
They're going to be in.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
But if they're that high, they probably have to play
a conference game and they probably want to go try
to win that conference game. And then the other thing
is they aren't guaranteed to buy, so I think most
teams would rather not have to play a game and
be automatically into that next round, as opposed to saying, oh,
we'll just host one, right, yeah, I mean it's it's
(33:50):
gonna be fun. Man.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
I just can't wait for home playoff games. I just
want to see what that atmosphere is like in collegeable,
especially if it's Since State college.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I mean, I know a few people there who up
if I appreciate that. Man, You know, I love about
Penn State and it it surprised me, and I don't
know why. Maybe I just ignorant to it. Just the
East Coast influence, like all the all the bros from
like New Jersey, New York, you know. It just it's
a rowdy fan base, man, like it was. I was
not prepared for that. I thought it'd be like more
(34:19):
like Pennsylvanians, like a little more Midwest and so forth,
you know, some Ohio folks. But it's it's definitely got
more of an East Coast influence. So I've enjoyed it
like that, that crowd, that group They're awesome.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
It's a special, special place.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I completely buy in and understand you know how you
feel the way you do about it, because every time
I go there like that, it's pretty special.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
We're heading there, Jonas and Lee, we we will miss you, Q,
but don't worry.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I'll to tend them. I was hoping there was like
an outside chance we would somehow be going there, with
the way that the scheduling and everything worked out, that
would have been cool.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Well yeah, I think that was somewhere somehow on the table.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
But I don't know if there's a I don't I
don't know what goes into the decision of where we go.
I just kind of show up and someone throws me
a suit and I just start sweating.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
That's an essence how that works.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Which is probably gonna happen this weekend, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Well I'll tell you what we're going to be on
draft this uh this weekend.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Oh yeah, I can't wait for LeVar Elite bloggers. They're
they're going to be on draft.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Hurricane Altmeyer coming to town. Yeah, talking about it is
going to rain.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
I try to tell you, man, I don't sleep, don't
sleep on that team.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yeah, Illinois, baby, it's going to rain. It is going
to be Illinois raining on us.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. So coming up, we're going to try and
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Speaker 4 (35:44):
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Speaker 5 (35:57):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio.
You know, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you
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Speaker 5 (36:30):
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me count this one, two, three, four, Yeah, we're the
only six people that Reggie Bush didn't sue yesterday. So
(36:52):
I just want to say USC, the PAC twelve and
the NCAA for nil compensation from past. I'm a little
confused here because I thought everything was was was all
good now that he was welcome back to USC and
now apparently you know they're getting taken to court.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
So just so, I mean, there's a lot of baffling
things for this, right because the heisman was taken away
off obviously after the accusations of money that was taken then,
and I guess he's suing for back pay a meaning
for the monies that he missed out on during an
era where and I al was not allowed. The problem
with this is if you open up these floodgates where
(37:35):
every single player then there's no money, like there's not
enough money. The NCAA will just file for bankruptcy and
then that way they don't have to pay anyone. Southern
Cal at that point will come to some sort of
resolution or agreement, but they'll also be able to sit
there and say they don't have enough money to be
able to pay all the student athletes in its entirety
(37:56):
for that period of time. So I'm not really sure
what the point is. I think the other thing is
you're you're tarnishing what was I guess a amended relationship
by doing this. I mean, I jokingly threw this out
on Twitter hypothetically, but I think if you're suing your university,
they're probably not letting you back on campus.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
They're probably not letting you back to go lead the team.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Maybe I'm wrong, maybebe something Cal because they do some
things differently out there. Maybe they would allow him to
lead him out but out of the tunnel and lead
the team out, but uh, it's usually doesn't work that
way when you've got a lawsuit against this school that
you played for.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I would also, I guess add to it, how does
your fan base react to it? You know, you're kind
of putting your fan base in a strange situation and
maybe he doesn't care, But to me, I always looked
at it like your ability to monetize yourself through your
your built in community that you established with how you
(38:54):
played and what you did in the community that you
were serving. That that I mean that earning capacity is
for a Reggie Bush is super high.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
I mean, his biggest fan base is the LA media.
They'll just kiss his ass like they always do.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I just hope whatever agreement he has with these attorneys
who's convinced him of this, that they're not getting a
cent from him, and so there's an award, because otherwise,
if he's paying them and they're making him go through
these lengths and all this stuff and he's got them
on the retainers, it's like it's just it could be
wasting money.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
And I hope it's not that. I hope it's only
if there's a reward.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
I just hope that he knows understands the magnitude and
gravity of what he's doing with USC, and you know,
eyes them in one thing USC and another.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So well, listen, we will keep you posted. Let you know.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
If you figure out your school is your school, Yeah,
unless you transfer one hundred times, we are
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