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September 25, 2024 39 mins

Aaron Rodgers calls out a disgruntled Haason Reddick. The Raiders stick with Gardner Minshew. FOX rejects Netflix’s request for Tom Brady to call the Christmas Day game. Plus, traditional songs at stadium and the midweek awards!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
We ran out a time. Last hour.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Lee had a story for us discussing a rat in
the NFL, and apparently we've identified.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Who that rat is. Lead the lab. What do you
got for us? That's right?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
In case you missed it Aaron Rodgers was on the
Pat McAfee show yesterday and Pat was asking him, of
course the Pat McAfee show, Sorry and aj Hawk, and
Pat was asking Aaron about the report from the off
season from the athletics saying there's disarray and disarray in
the Jets organization, that it's terrible there, as well as

(01:37):
about the controversy over him shoving Robert Sala. Well, this
is what Aaron Rodgers had to say about that specific article.
Take a listen.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
I would say the culture is about the opposite of
what that article said. I didn't read the article, but
just reading that headline there, it sounds like it was
written by Hasan Reddick's agent form former agent. I guess,
possibly in a way of trying to spirits are our

(02:08):
great organization.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh wow, how about that? So now we know.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
So that's where all the rumors have come from. So
what are they trying to do? Presents is bad?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Is it one person that's saying that is a horrible
culture and they got a good reputation? You would be
the other person, I guess. So I'm not already imagine
named LeVar.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think that's LeVar Arrington, who's uh spreading those lines
about the organization.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean, I'm not telling the truth or a lot.
I'm just giving an opinion. Yeah, I mean they're two
and one right now. Okay, let's see how that goes.
I know they got a big one this week, right,
Let's see how that goes. Who they got.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
It's Buffalo. I'm not mistaken, right, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Take that ale.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
No, Buffalo's got Bultmar. Well, that's that's going to be
the throttle. The Jets this week have the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
They're gonna mess around and lose that one. So it's
gonna you calling it right now. Yeah, chocoing bow Knicks
got it. Bone Knicks lead Denver Broncos, and they got
the Vikings. After that, that might be three losses.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
And I think one of those ones they're going to London.
In London, they're gonna go abroad. That one's in London.
You go abroad and go ahead and catch an ale. Man,
why are you spilled?

Speaker 6 (03:30):
If they're four and one after all that, at what
point do you go all right?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Maybe maybe they are all right? It won't be four
and one. It would have to be like eight and one.
They get the eight wins, then I'll eat crow.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Why you feel just so much hate on a Wednesday?
It is weird.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Man, I don't know why you're hating on Rogers. I
don't Rogers. I'm not hating on them.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
I mean he's their quarterback of their team. He's on
behalf for the team. I'm talking about their team culture.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
If it's on behalf of the team, then I guess
I'm I guess it's I guess. I don't hate hate,
hate them, hate them, hate your heart, let it out,
let it out. Y'all won't see my face. Y'all won't
see my faces face. Man, Chappelle show us so far

(04:29):
before it's time.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
People, people would be like appalled and seeing some of
that stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I tell you guys about that Chappelle conspiracy that's out there.
It's been floating around the past couple of months that
it's not actually him.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Now, what do you mean that's like something.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Happened, he disappeared, and whoever this is that's him is
not actually him.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's somebody playing him. Really squared a guy. That's a
real thing or real conspiracy theory. Well, he had a
big body transformation, got yoked.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, he did get yoked up, he started working out.
He started working out. Yeah there's a.

Speaker 6 (05:07):
Which is kind of like an Ohio thing though, you know,
there you go. I'm just saying, west Side bar Bell,
what a shit?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
So yeah, yeah, come on, Gardner Minshew is going to
get another opportunity for the Raiders, and he's going to
get it this weekend against the Cleveland Browns, all right,
in a game that I swear to God, I have
no idea how this game is going to go, because
both of you feel like they're at a bit of

(05:39):
a crossroads based on last week. The Browns are banged up,
the Raiders are looking for anything to try and get
over whatever the hell that was against the Carolina Panthers.
But at least the saving grace and all this is
Gardner Minshew, who it was thrown out there that there
could potentially be a quarterback switch this week based on
what happened last week and what has happened in the season.

(06:01):
We were kind of making the point yesterday. It's not
like he's the problem. It's not that Gardner Minshew's played
poorly to where they've got to make this switch at cornerback.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
So let me just give you some stats all right,
and you guys tell me, you guys tell me. The
Raiders currently are number four in the NFL in passing yards.
They're top ten in passing tds. Now, mind you their
their defen or excuse me, their offense is dead last
in rushing in the NFL. And by the way, for
those nerds out there who are like, well, you can't
use the total rushing numbers, you have to use yards

(06:31):
per attempt, they're last in both.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, and it gets better.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
They're thirtieth in total defense in the NFL, twenty seventh
in scoring. They're twenty ninth against the run, twenty third
against the pass, and on offense, they've got a top
five red zone offense. Meanwhile, their defense is twentieth in
the NFL. But Gardner minshows the problem. Okay, all right,
that's how we want to play this Just kind of

(06:56):
interesting how that works out.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
But yeah, somebody's got to be the fall guy. Who's
it going to be?

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Well, I mean, I think it just it's the easiest
quote unquote fix because look, Max Crosby, DeVante Adams, you
know they're showing up, but like Antonio Pierce is calling
out other players for business decisions. Vinnie Bonsignor covers the
Raiders said that if you were watching the game, you
could just tell that there were certain guys that weren't

(07:23):
into it on Sunday for whatever reason, which is kind
of well, I think it stings too, because you would
think coming off that win against Baltimore that there would
be like a lot of momentum like, hey, we got
an opportunity to go to two and one, yeah, against
a bad team. That's agreed, and so I think maybe
that's why Antonio Pierce was pissed afterwards, because he's like this,

(07:45):
I mean, we had a real chance here and now
potentially you're going against a banged up Cleveland Browns team.
The Raiders could be sitting after the you know, four
games in the season, could be sitting at three and
one and like in a really good spot, and now
they're just hoping for a split based on a terrible
performance last week. So it's kind of surprising that guys
would just not play our business one week, like we

(08:07):
can get this. Maybe maybe it was one of those
Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Type of moments right all on, like what coach said,
like you just thought that you might have been you know,
better than what just to me? Yeah, I mean, didn't
he give the reasoning of like kind of like expecting
to win and it was like some type of reason.
It could have been the same thing, like they.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
Think it was more about listening to everyone hyping them up,
looking into the playoffs and being in already after beating.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
An m It was something along those lines. Yeah, I
mean they beat the Ravens. I mean, don't you think
that that's kind of a possibility that that they were
a little bit too relaxed or a little bit too
confident that that this was like one of those weeks
where you know, we go out here and we we
beat we beat the Carolina Panthers, like bam, we're at

(08:58):
two and one, you know what I mean, And before
you know it, it's like, hold on, like is Carolina
like beating us right now?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Like whoa is Carolina up on us like this right now?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Like they might have just not really like prepared as
if they were going to play against the team that
could beat them.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Is that possible?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I feel like that's possible, especially if you're flying high,
because there would be no reason to not throttle down
and say we just beat the Ravens. In Baltimore, like
let's go, like, let's let's keep ratcheting and up, let's
keep let's keep getting better. There'd be no reason other
than to think that this is a team that's one
of the worst teams in the NFL. Like and you
kind of slept walk through that week.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
But here's the path that is weird to me.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
And maybe I'm just not looking at this from how
a game flow can go and where you're at in
the moment while you're in the middle of an NFL game.
I could understand if like you came back and you
get down in the first quarter, or you get down early,
and it's like, hey, wake up call, guys, we gotta
we gotta clock back in. They're here to play. We

(10:01):
just beat Baltimore. We should be the better. Sometimes that
can happen. Sometimes you just can't you can't close. Sometimes
you can't grab the momentum back like that, like you
get hit in the mouth and it's just before you
know it, you're you're in a hole that you just
you can't get out of. That has happened in games
like that happens, like you you could be the better team,

(10:25):
but that team, for some reason, they they brought it
to you, and it's just hard to say, Okay, we
can adjust, we can adapt, and and then you start
to take the game back. It's just that does happen
a lot where you can take the game back for
certain what you're saying, But that doesn't that's not always
the case. Sometimes you can get hit in the mouth
in a.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Game and you just keep getting like it that you
should have thrown the towel in, but you got to
play four quarters.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Is that an indication that the difference between the Raiders
and the Panthers isn't that great? I don't know, because
if the Raiders were a bad team, couldn't they have
taken the momentum back in that game? Like similar to
theory theoremicly like, what the hell was that?

Speaker 6 (11:07):
That's the NFL, though, dude, I mean, that's it's the
The differences on teams is never as big.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
As we look at on the outside.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
You know, they're all pros, every last one of them
are pros. So it's not you know, it shouldn't be
considered to be any given Sunday because even the teams
that that lose lose a lot, that's still those are
still pros on that team. You know what I mean, Like,
it's it's not Yeah, it's not as simple as people

(11:35):
think it is. It's it's it's hard.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
How much of a red ass do you think ap
had this week with the team? Uh, it's early.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I don't think there's any time to like panic or
you know, lose your locker room. But I do think
he set a tone by saying what he said and
and ultimately putting it out there like if you're going
to make business decisions, you're forcing us, me, the coach,
us the GM, You're forcing us to make business decisions.

(12:06):
Like so okay, I wonder if they brought anybody in.
I didn't look at like the report like I wonder
if they brought anybody in, signed to anybody, or let
anybody go. I mean that It's why on those Tuesday,
those off days, there's like twelve fifteen guys coming.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Back out and you gotta and you gotta and.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
If you're in there getting treatment or whatever on your
off day, you see it.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Wait, he plays my position like three of these mother
lovers like my position.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Man. Yeah, so there you.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Go, Like how often is that just bringing him in
to kind of get everybody, Like I'm like, when you're losing,
you don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
You trust me.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
It's every week And I remember I remember in Cleveland
and nine when Man Genie was there, it was like
you'd have.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Three new dudes, four new dudes on either that active
roster and practice squad every week. It was like a
revolving door.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
And his big thing was he would always try to
get people to like name like an entire position group.
So it'd be like, hey, big baby, you know, go
go name uh go name the wide receiver room.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
And he'd like be like, well, shoot, coach, half those
dudes just got here last week.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Like I mean, that stuff would happen all the time,
and it got to the point where like he didn't
even do it by the end of the season just
because it was too hard to keep track of everything.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So got feeling, who do you guys like Browns Raiders
this weekend in Cleveland and like the Browns? Like the Browns? Yeah, yeah,
I like I like Vegas, like Vegas to get back
on track.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
I mean, if I think they're gonna win the super Bowl,
have to stay strong here, you know, and you have to.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Kind of pot committed at this point you can't beat
the Raiders and there's bigger issues there.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
But well I would say that about the Browns right now.
I just listen.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I just hope you know, DeShawn just goes room to
the stadium and then back like like, don't veer off,
like don't go down the strip if you see a
couple of guys, you know, slapping people.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
The biggest problem just like the biggest problem is is
that that's probably what made him good, Like he probably
actually still needs to be the guy that he was
to be that good. I mean when he was that
good is when all that stuff was going on. It's
like kind of like Tiger Woods. You know, there's like
he fell off, you know after after all that stuff

(14:26):
came out, came out.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
And he's you know, I mean he won the Masters
McDonald's once. Yeah, well I mean at least he did
it again. He was on pace to break the record.
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm just saying, yeah, but sometimes you gotta be no,
he's going to go there because this is a bit
now I ain't go Yeah, I love go go there,
but I mean that just maybe he needs to go out,
Maybe he needs to go out on on the strip.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Maybe he needs to be who I'm not going to
never know who's listening to man, just never know. Got
this shred. I was just go stay away from it.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
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Speaker 2 (15:38):
How did it end up like this? It was only
a kiss. I don't know why, Buffalo, Like, what's it saying? Man?

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Like this is how desperate NFL teams are to try
to like take some of the excitement and hype around
college football and it to you know, the NFL like
they're searching for something because there's just no feel.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
And I get it, Like unless you're.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Born into a fan like a fan base where your
family roots for a certain NFL team. That's usually what
people say, Hey, my dad was a big fan, my
mom was a big fan, so I grew up into it.
It's just not the same. Like universities have the opportunity
to have you for four or five years sometimes or
seven nowadays and be able to build in this foundation

(16:35):
of like culture and experience and.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Belief and love for their alma.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
Mater, so it makes sense when they come back. But
I don't know, man, I just I've never really even
understood this song from Michigan though, which like if you
go back and try to look up the rationale behind
why they play it and going into.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
The fourth quarter, it's not like jump Around.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Jump Around has a really really cool story entrant traditionon
to it.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I believe it was some of like the swimmer.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Is who like locked I think whoever like the pa
in the stadium out and like played the song initially
or something along those lines. There's a cool story to it.
Michigan doesn't have anything.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Cool to it. Dang. Yeah, I'm not trying to take shots.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
That like this, miss body, but I think maybe it
was just it's just one of those songs that.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
It's not that old of a song. That's the other things.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
I think it's one of those songs that if you
were looking at the trends of songs that have like
fan like people like in the club participation, like they
might have like looked at Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
What song.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
It's a twenty year old song.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, that's why. But it's one of those songs that
that's it proves. The point is that if it's that
that long, it's been in rotation that long, that long,
twenty years long.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's no.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
So jump Around as a song that's like newer I'm
saying in regards to college tradition and history, it's not.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
That's not long. But if you look at jump Around,
no song, but it just has to be. It just
has to be like the song, just say you like
the song. It's not a cool tradition.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
Jump Around came out in nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
All right, Yeah, that's fine. But what I'm saying, it's
a lot older.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
If a song has duration, like it's still a song
that gets participation when you play it. That's that's what
I'm saying. It's not so much how old it is.
It's it's the type like what's the song where you
know that I can somebody, eh, someone like you? Like
any type of song that when you stop the song

(18:34):
and people keep singing the lyrics, I'm just trying to
drop on something.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
You're just throwing out songs that are songs people sing to.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
What I'm trying to say, I'm gonna pair.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
If you're gonna pair, like a college tradition in a
stadium and all that, there has to be a story
behind it. There has to be something behind it. And
that's the thing is there is a story behind jump around.
There's a story for me. For example, like Sweet Caroline
and that song was always last call at the bar
is in Notre Dame. So I remember like always like
hearing that and going oh, like everyone would be running

(19:08):
to the bar or running to get one last drink
or saying all right, we're out like this at the
end of this point where.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
We're going now. But some but that was that was
the association behind it.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
But at some point that had to be what created
the storyline. So maybe them playing it is creating the tradition.
Maybe them starting it now is creating the storyline.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Terrible way of looking at it, and maybe it.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Is, but a tradition and a story has to start somewhere.
I mean it has to start somewhere because.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
There's a story there's That's the thing is go research this,
Go look this up, go read about research. There's nothing
behind mister Brightside of Michigan.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
But that could it becomes the story Like whatever year
they started using it, like, they used it and it kept,
it stayed so now they use it, so now it's
become a part of what they do.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Terrible story. Then that's a book that never goes anywhere.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
You could, you could judge it however you want, but
that's what Michigan does.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Can I give you the hottest take of all this? Well,
you guys shouldn't argue about some n.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
What what? What do you have? Jonas? What makes it? Yes?
Ready for this? Yes?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Here on two pros and a cup of Joe on
Fox Sports Radio. Mister Brightside is better than sweet Caroline.
Put that in your pipes and smoke it and let
that soak into your books.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Your opinion. No, that's a fact. That's your opinion. I
have working ears. That's a fact. I think that's like
I mean it doesn't. It's not it's not applicable. I don't.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I don't know what you have to compare the two songs.
They're very different songs.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
They're very different. So I appreciate you weighing on this.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I just had to I just had to reset it
because we didn't give the the intro to start the segment.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
You don't give the intro, let's get it.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Let's get it already.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
That was jiu jitsu. That's like radio jiu jitsu. There,
you didn't know what was happening. Next thing you know,
you're in a choke hold. It's like, what happened here?
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The Crown is yours. So apparently, according to the New
York Post, Netflix has got these games that are coming

(21:11):
up on Christmas, the Christmas Doubleheader, and they tried, well, no,
this is doubleheader, double barrel. It's got to be the
same time. Yeah, which, by the way, we have another
one coming up on Monday, so Apparently they tried to
bring in Tom Brady and Kevin Burkhardt to rent them
for one of these Christmas games, and Fox said, yeah, no,

(21:34):
that's not happening. You cannot have that pair. That'll not
be how this works. So, according to sources, Netflix is
now targeting Iron Eagle, Noah Eagle, Greg Olsen, and Nate
Burleson for the announcers for their games. Now, no deals
have been finalized, but apparently Fox would be potentially okay
with Greg Olsen taking the gig, just not Tom Brady.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
Kind of interesting only because look, if you're paying as
much as you are for Tom Brady, clearly you want
to have exclusivity to his rights. Now we're talking about Netflix,
which is a streaming platform, not necessarily you know, Fox,
which is a broadcast network. However, those lines are starting
to become more and more blurred as people are signing

(22:19):
up for various streaming you know platforms that are going
to be airing those games. Right, So because of that,
they're trying to protect their investment in Tom Brady. What's
interesting about it to me is like that's a given,
Like there's no way Fox was going to say yes
to this.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
It is interesting though that uh Netflix, Netflix did ask,
which kudos to them, right, like make them say no
before you turn to another you know, go to another direction.
Greg Olsen knows still on Fox broadcasts saying the number
two spot. The fact that they would let him do
it is interesting to me because you set up with

(22:55):
one of your talent but not both. So I don't
know if it opens the door because of how the
transition from Greg to Tom has gone and kind of went,
and maybe they feel like, hey, let's do right by this.
But it presents a great opportunity if Netflix gets even
more into the NFL, that there might be a spot
for Greg Olsen, you know, to be able to go
and take over in some capacity on a streaming platform

(23:18):
like that. So good for Greg Olsen. Hope he gets it.
You know, he does a tremendous job and you know,
again tough how things worked out for him, considering the
job that he had done in broadcasting up to this
past year. But again, everyone's gonna be understanding of it
because it's Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
It's the goat. It's the greatest of all time.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
Of course, any TV network's gonna get a shot before
they you know, have someone else coming and take that job.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
And then you've seen what's funny about is you've seen
people try and create this. I don't know this head
to head comparison between Greg Olsen and Tom Brady, and
like greg Olsen talked about it and said, no, like
I've talked to Tom, like he would ask me questions,
we would go over things, so there.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Wasn't really like a rivalry.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I guess she would say, like, there wasn't like how's
everybody's tried to present it. It was just listen, they're
giving him the money they gave him. He's going to
get opportunities to do this. Like I don't know how
you guys felt from game one to game two, from
game to three when you were calling him. I know
I felt from radio show one to two to three,
you just get more comfortable, you get better and better.
The idea that you just look at Tom Brady through

(24:21):
three games. I mean, first of all, every game he's
called has been a Cowboys game. I'm sure he's probably
sick of it at this point. He is getting his
former team the Bucks this weekend, Like, let's at least
give him a full season before we go. Okay, is
he good is he not? We have no idea. Like
everybody celebrated Tony Romeo after the first year, and that
turned into a bit of a disaster depending on who

(24:44):
you asks. So Greg Olsen has had a lot more
reps of this, a lot more opportunity at this like
Tom Brady needs a little bit more of a grace
period here trying to become the broadcaster that he could be.
Did you think about that far speaking to Michigan, Hey,
they suck.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
So is their storylines connected to their songs? All I
say is, you know, whatever it is that's gonna be
with with that whole thing is what it's going to be.
Olsen is is a dope talent. Nate Burleson, He's a
dope talent too, Like he's really really gone through the
ranks of doing what he needed to do to ascend

(25:23):
to to the position that he's in, Like probably like
the closest thing to Michael Strahan from our our football community.
You know, it's you know, I think that's a good,
good setup that that that takes place. And as far
as with Tom Brady, I mean he's a beginner, Like
he's he's got to he's got to go. He he

(25:44):
didn't climb through the ranks to get to where he is.
He's gotten to where he is right now currently because
of who he is. So it's up to him, which
we've heard, he's put in the work you know, last
year leading up to this, you know, hopefully you know
in his mind he's putting in the work to continue
to improve himself and how it is that you know,

(26:05):
his comfort level of how he calls you know, within
the games, and he'll continue to improve. I think he will,
because that's just the type of person he is. He's
super competitive that way, and you know he wants to
be the best. He challenges himself to be the best. Now,
with that being said, sometimes you challenge yourself to be
the best at something you don't necessarily quite achieve what
it is that you were working to be the best at,

(26:27):
but you don't come up too far from where you
want to be. If if your expectations and are high
and your work ethic, you know, it matches that, you know,
for me, it was you know, doing teleprompters or whatever
it may be, you know, when I was doing TV
and that was you know, I used to get like
anxiety before before I had to do teleprompters, like would

(26:50):
it go too.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Fast or whatever? Like what Like, there's.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Certain things that you just have to you know, when
you're learning new things and you're doing new things, you
got to you got to work your way into it.
You got to put the work in, you know. I started.
I started putting it on you know, computers, and like
using a program where I could actually practice doing it
different things. I stay longer in the studio sometimes, you know,
when I finish up with with one of the studio shows,

(27:17):
just to work on things that you know, I felt
like I could do better, you know, be better at
doing so. I mean, I think he'll put in the
work and he'll continue to improve himself and he'll end
up where he needs to be. Because that's Tom Brady.
I don't see him being any different. Can I play
some sound for you guys?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Oh oh, all right now, I just want you to
tell me because I personally don't think this is shade.
I think it's just an example of two different ways
of doing it. But with Tom Brady back in Tampa
calling the game this weekend between the Bucks and the Eagles,

(27:56):
it does bring up even though he can't be a
part of the pregame eatings and all that stuff. It
does bring up the comments that Baker Mayfield had Just
a few days ago. He was on the Cosa Day
Clube podcast, which is hosted by Corey Klueber, the former
MLB pitcher, but he had this to say about the

(28:20):
experience of Tom Brady in Tampa from what he's heard,
the differences and just some stories about how things went
while TB twelve was there.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
The building was a little bit different with Tom in there. Obviously,
playing wise, Tom was different. He had everybody dialed in
high strong environments, so I think everybody was pretty stressed out,
so for me and everybody was expecting the Bucks to
not be good last year, so they wanted me to
come in, be myself, you know, bring the joy back
to football a little bit for guys that weren't having
as much fun, and just continue to raise the competition level.

(28:53):
So they just asked me to be myself. And like,
as a as a player, you really can't ask for
much more than that.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Say, and I think there was there was also more
from the from the the clip as well too, so
I think there was there was a second one.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
So you hear some of the stories about if he
didn't like a certain play call and he didn't like
it throughout the week and they still call it in
the game.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
There might have been a throwaway on purpose.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
They're throwing at the running back or receiver's feet just
so there's a lot of mind.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Games going on prove a point that it wasn't the
right call. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, So he says that, you know, there was mind games.
He said that there was guys were trying to find,
you know, the joy back in football again when he
was there. Like my read on that is when Tom
Brady got there, he realized he only had a short
amount of time to try and accomplish what he wanted
to accomplish, and if everybody wasn't on the same page

(29:48):
as him, then they're going to hear it because that's
the environment he came from. Baker Mayfield, Yeah, Baker Mayfield
got there and he's like, dude, like, i have an
opportunity here to be a starter again, and I'm going
to enjoy this based on where I've come from. This
is another chance at life as a starting quarterback in
the NFL, and I'm going to try and enjoy the

(30:09):
ride a little bit more that's the way I read it.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
But I think, well, it's two completely different scenarios as
to how the quarterbacks came there. I mean, Tom Brady
was already established as the greatest quarterback of all time
going to Tampa, so there was nothing to prove. It
was like getting everyone on his same page and on
how he was able to be successful. For Baker, it's different,

(30:33):
he was trying to prove himself. I mean, it's completely
different in that sense. So it's a different feel in
regards to how his working relationship is going to be
with everyone else as compared to how tom Brady's going
to be. You know, this is similar to Peyton Manning
when he went to the Denver Broncos. You know, I
left went to Kansas City, so obviously saw that team
a couple of times a year and talking to a

(30:55):
lot of guys still to this day I was friends
with I'm like, what's it like? And very similar sentiment, man,
like everyone's on edge. There's a lot of pressure every
single week. We would, you know, change up different code
words like constantly because so much thing, so many things
were done at the line of scrimmage that you know,
guys would have to remember all these different code words
and things.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
That was different than the system that we ran in
the past.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
And not to say it's a bad thing, it was
just a lot more pressure, a lot more stress, a
lot more high strung.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
There were elements of that. And again another all time great.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
One of the goats in the game of football, who
ultimately ended up going on and winning.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
A Super Bowl there.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
So you know, we don't need to sit here and
say like, oh, it's like one way is better than
the other. But you also have to recognize the fact
that you know, both when Peyton Manning went to Denver
or when Tom Brady goes to Tampa, they're walking in
the front doors like that is the guy like no
different than Aaron Rodgers with the Jets. Now, you know,
the environment could be different with the Jets since Rogers

(31:54):
is as of right now, I think, the oldest signed
player in the league. But you know there's going to
be more tension because these are guys who are building
their legacy, like they're building their legacy and how they're
going to be remembered, like they're going for there to
be to win another Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
You know, for Baker.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Mayfield, he's just trying to get back into a position
where he could then start and kind of take over
and build.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Back his career.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
It's completely different as far as how they're viewed when
you view his transition to Tampa Bay versus Tom Brady's.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
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Speaker 2 (33:59):
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Speaker 1 (34:03):
This song Stay Oh, come on, It's awesome story connected
to this You real negative today?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
You know that yes can we be a little bit
more positive and upbeat. Tomorrow's getaway day going to stay
college y. Brady's got to like travel to Puerto Rico
and then fly to Orlando. Dang, come on, man, come
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Speaker 1 (34:33):
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Speaker 6 (34:47):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
We've got some uh some sound we're gonna play for Petro,
so I'm sure he'll have a fun, fun talk about that.
He's also going to talk about his Dodgers. It's one
thing to lose a game. It's another thing to lose
a game and have it finish on a triple play
at home against a team that's owned to you all year.
So there's all that and so much more with Petro's
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(35:08):
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Speaker 8 (35:26):
Of course, there are some good things that happen, and
there's some bad, and then there's some downright ugly things.
It's time for good, bad and ugly all.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Right, lead to lap Who's got what? Well?

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Guys, As we do each and every Wednesday, we start
with the good news, and this week, Jonas you are
delivering the good.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Oh well, listen. We talked about it on Monday.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Sam Darnold a guy who was drafted by the New
York Jets. That place was a disaster, multiple coaching changes.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
He had to bounce around.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
He went to Carolina, had to compete for the job
there with Baker Mayfield. Then he goes to San Francisco
for a cup of coffee, and then he gets his
opportunity in Minnesota. And it's bad what happened to JJ McCarthy,
But it's good in the sense that Sam Donald finally
got a chance with real talent around him, with a
guy who could build an offense around him, and he's

(36:21):
seen him shine early in the season. Right now, got
to be in the in contention near the top for
comeback player of the year when it comes to his
performance thus far this year.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
He suffered a.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Little bit of a knee injury, maybe a little banged up,
but nothing too serious to where he's going to miss
any time. And they got a big matchup against Green
Base and my good for the week is the play
of Sam Donald.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
And you can't have good without the bed Brady. What
was bad this.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Week prior to Jacksonville Jaguars, who are now zero to three,
I just never felt like they had any shot in
that game versus the Buffalo Bills without the jump. So
it's all about there right now, the pressures on Doug Peterson,
pressures on Trevor Lawrence, and it's I'm looking at the
rest of the schedule, the rest of the way. I

(37:05):
don't feel overly confident about their ability to do.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Anything moving forward.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
So right now, the bad at least this week for
me is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 9 (37:17):
And from bad two worse, LeVar what was ugly. What
was ugly was the poke heard around the world. You know,
Caitlyn got poked in the eye. It left a black mark.
I mean a black eye, a bruising of the eye.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I'm talking about a black eye dision.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Nate Carrington.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
While I will say it was considered to be unintentional,
Caitlyn Clark actually said she felt it was unintentional. Nonetheless,
every time something happens to her and it has some
questionable type of motive behind it, or the way it
looks like it happened to early in the game, first
quarter of the game, she was trying to block her shot,

(38:04):
stabbed her in the eye. Bad look, you gotta miss
her eye, you gotta miss the face. You can you
can swipe for the ball, but don't swipe the face.

Speaker 8 (38:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Ugly. By the way, when are the w NBA Finals?
Like when is that?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Because why that's the only time I think that's what
are you going to tune into those?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
If the w NBA Finals were in my backyard, I'd
go run errands. It's football season, Like, can can one
of these other leagues get a clue and like schedule
this stuff when it's not football season.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
That's more ugly what you're doing right now, that's more ugly.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I mean, come on, man, like you're trying to grow
a sport, like if you want to do that, like.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Stab the star player or not.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I don't know. That's that's what I'm saying. That's ugly.
Stab her leave the mark. Yeah, listen, you know she's uh,
she's gotten. It's not a little bit here having that
black guy. It's not a good look. Definitely not.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's better than the look
that Lee's gonna have on his eye if he keeps
staring at his phone like that, I'll tell you that, Lee,
it's getting worse.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
The phone's getting worse.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, I'm finding new techniques to maneuver around, uh, hopefully
not staring at it in any longer.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Why did you say you're getting your new phone? Hopefully
it comes before we head out tomorrow. But that ain't happening.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
It ain't happen, So you just be looking at your
watch the whole trip. Yeah, that'll be interesting at a
urinal Yeah, exactly, though, have fun with that.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Figure it out, of course. I don't worry about it,
but always do. LeVar Islands
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