September 26, 2024 • 37 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the pros tell you how hard it is for individuals and teams to stay healthy throughout a season. Josh Allen tries to save face after throwing shade at Stefon Diggs and Aaron Jones has high hopes for his return to Lambeau.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, It's getaway Day. We're on
our way to stay College. We're on our way to Orlando.
We got college football and NFL on the brain and
in this show, and we're gonna start with some injury issues.
We got injury issues in the NFL we will discuss.
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We're also gonna talk about whether or not Josh Allen
was taking a shot at Stefan Diggs. He tried to
clarify that. We'll weigh in on that discussion as well too.
College football's got a mess on their hands. It's called
nil and apparently if you ain't paying what you promised,
these players ain't playing. We're gonna also have a discussion
with Albert Breer about news and notes from around the NFL.
(00:43):
We've got Lee's leftovers, We've got Quinn's wins, and a
parlay party for you. It's all yours coming up next here,
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Speaker 5 (01:46):
Is that what you're calling it?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
And that would incite it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now, I got this weird feeling that I forgot something,
but I'm just gonna figure it out when I get there.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
You're like the mom from home alone.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, there's just get it.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
He wasn't wasn't it wasn't that like her first reaction.
She gets on the plane, She's like, I keep feeling
I forgot something.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yes, And the guy was like her husband's like no, no,
come on.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
You know the garage doors.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I mean, uh so you're not taking your kid, so
you're good. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I figure that one out.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Black underwear, right, you can't pack white.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
We know that. What else?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
By the way, By the way, that is one fact
that's true.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Is Lee going to this extravaganza as well?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Of course?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Yeah that's true. Jonas does not travel without lake.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
You know, every every under taker has to have their
Uh there you go.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Are you are all three of you guys in the
same flight?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
No? No, come on, I don't believe var.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
That's smart.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I think we were originally booked on the same flight.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I wanted nothing more than to walk onto the flight
and see LeVar in first class and just make a
scene as we walk by him.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
That's all I wanted. I didn't want to do that
to you guys.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Wow, I could have set us next to each other Jonas,
but I spared you, especially since what I ate last night.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Uh oh, put you a few rows away from me.
Why take the chance if you know you're gonna be
sitting on a flight.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Well that's what he did.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
He's got a reputation to uphold, obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Because man that the flight to stay colledge is kind
of a pain in the ass from La not like
it's it's connector and.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You'll realize it takes you all day. It's an all
day affair.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So knowing that, Lee still decided to gas up with
whatever was going to cause problems in the digestive system.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
So klopenio poppers, oh really.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean, and Jalopeno poppers should sound like, oh,
that's good, but connecting it to you and the outcome.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
By the way, Jalopenno poppers are such a drunken high
school college food, Like I don't know who the hell
eats a sober and willingly.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
You know, what I learned the other day was apparently
if you like dive down deep enough in the ocean,
it's like impossible for you to fart.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
But when you're up in an.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
Airplane, because of the pressure from the tube and all that, like,
it's it forces you to fart more. That's why airplanes
smell so bad. Everyone's farting. Yeah, yeah, it's like a
pressure thing.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Yeah, I don't I go to the restroom if I
have to do any of that, I don't wait. You
go to the restroom on the airplane just to fart
if I have to. Yeah, so far, I mean I
would be trement. Yeah, I mean I let it go too.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Yeah, he's just like a lot boxing yourself then.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, but it's it's it's sparing the other people. That
is true until that door opens, And I mean I
just look at it like this. At least it was
contained to one small area. I stay in there for
like two seconds. Wash my hands, look at my nose.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Make it look like you're just going number one right?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Oh man, Well, I try to be courteous, I mean someone. Yeah,
some would say you're a gentleman for that.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I would like to believe in my real life and
not on the radio show, that I'm a gentleman.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Have you ever had someone who wronged you at some
point on the flight, flight attendant maybe, and then you
just actually went and stood next to them and let
it go.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
No, no, no, that one is literally from yesterday. A
darts player farted on live television. Really, Oh my god,
you had to explain himself afterwards.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Oh wow, it was very gargle lee.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Are you constantly looking for farts to download and they
just come to me?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I don't think it works like that, you have to
be looking for it.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I would.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
I don't have to be looking for it across my desk,
and I'm not gonna not roll it.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
So who sent that to you?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I came across into my research? You know, you know
it's great about this. Brady will send leave sound requests
and it never gets.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
In the show. But he's got false Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Here's my question is who brought it across your desk?
Speaker 8 (06:23):
The universe? Oh my god, I watched darts all the time.
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Hey, Lee, Oh my god, oh man, well listen, uh
he goes.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I had to explain himself. It was so loud on TV.
The host when I walked over was like, what was that?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh man?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
You see him walk over to pick up his darts
and he literally does a two foot two legged squats.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
And what did it sound like?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Wait? Oh wait, wait, wait where the hell they go?
Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Sounds like a bomb.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
All right, Well, look, hopefully everything goes well.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I mean I've heard bombs on movies, you know, TV
with you for you out there? So how does he
know what? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I'm with you though, Okay, well listen, I don't know
if that could be considered as hazardous or an injury
that could occur if you push too hard or something
like that, or who knows, maybe.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You should certainly have to injure something.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I mean, it does feel like, you know, the injuries
are starting to pile up in the NFL, Like we've
got a lot of guys banged up. We're not even
at week four and we got a lot of people
banged up now, Sam Donald, Brock Party, they did return
to practice. Brock Purty at a back issue. Sam Donald
got his knee nicked up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
The Eagles, AJ Brown and DeVante Smith, we don't know
their status, but you know that appears like maybe they
can't give it a go. Joe Mixon, Alvin Kamara, Austin
Eckler's out because he's got a concussion. Jordan Love waiting
to see whether or not he'll be available because of
the knee injury. Apparently Justin Herbert says, even though he
played in Sunday's game, that his ankle feels better this
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Wednesday than it did last Wednesday. I have no idea
how that's possible, but apparently that's the case. But injuries
are piling up and it does bring up the question
that I wanted to ask you guys, did you ever
feel okay at the end of a season, like, I mean,
like to where it was like, yeah, listen, I mean,
you know, it's a long year, but yeah, I'm good
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if we needed to go another week, and I wouldn't
need a ton of medical attention because it just feels
like from the get go you are compromised for three
four months of your life every single year.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
That's coming out of training camp, Like you don't start
the season at one hundred percent. Help, I mean, you
got to think about it. You're running around your practice,
you have a grueling schedule to start with with just
training camp, so you're never one hundred percent. Not being
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one hundred percent is being one hundred percent. So the
quicker you can understand coping with pain and being a
prehaber because you're going to be dealing with with bumps,
Nick's bruises, you know, just just the soreness of doing
it every single day. You're not being one hundred percent
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is one hundred percent. That's that's the key. If you
can embrace that and understand that I still can perform
at the highest of levels even though my leg might
not feel correct, or my toe might not feel all
the way right, or my finger or my elbow, whatever
it may be, that's the norm. That's like, I've never
heard of anyone saying that, I just feel like nothing
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is wrong. I don't think I've ever met anyone. It
might exist. I don't know if they living in real
real time, or if they live in an alternate universe,
or if that's their coping mechanism. I don't know. But
you're going to feel something, You're there's going to be
something you have to deal with, and that's that's just
a part of That's just a part of being an athlete.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
I recalled years where like I had been on IR
the way I ended the season with a Liz Frank injury.
You know, the one year I'd broke a bone in
my right index finger on my throwing hands, so I
had to get pins put in and I wasn't gonna
able to.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Play for six weeks. We had six weeks left, so
that I had to be put on IR for that.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
I remember like talk to my agent about, you know,
different varying injuries I was dealing with, and I'm like,
I can't go on Ira again, like I just I
can't do it for my resume, for my reputation, and
try to stay like I need to finish out the season,
even though I was on a cocktail of painkillers and
muscle relaxers and everything else, just to finish between like
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some Torrent Carlage bruised ribs, you know, posterial laborum tear.
You know, I'd come back from like a concussion, some
other things. It was like the last thing I wanted.
And that's the hard part for most these guys is
like you start building up some injuries, these things are gonna,
to Levar's point, they're gonna nag them the rest of
the season and in some cases, if they need to
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be surgically repaired, not be able to be fixed until
well maybe the rest of your life at least in
the short term. For the purpose of this conversation, you know,
you're playing through something that ultimately is limiting whatever that
ceiling or a hundred percent is, like it's a varying
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degree now of what you're able to get to. It's
not your one hundred percent healthy hundred percent, it's your
ninety percent healthy. I'm eighty five percent healthy, whatever, that
one hundred percent is which isn't gonna be like your
max capacity. And the hard thing for players is unless
guys are truly paid and secure financially, it's a really
(12:03):
difficult decision because if they go out there play poorly,
no one wants to hear that it's about an injury.
No one ever wants to hear that, and it looks
bad on the resume. It's going to hurt their next
opportunity to try to get a contract. And that's the
tough part for a lot of these guys who are
trying to either play through something or come back from something.
Is they they know, Like think about Russell Wilson's calf injury.
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This has lasted way longer than any of us thought,
and we don't know the specifics to it, right. I
guess almost heard at the beginning of training camp he
tweaked it right going into week one. The general point though,
is he knows this is his last shot when he
gets when he gets out there probably to be a
starting quarterback. After that, it's just going to be a
you know, backup opportunities most likely. So he's probably looking
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at this like I want to make sure I am
one when I have a shot to go back out there,
because otherwise it's not worth it for me to go
out there and not play the way I'm capable of
because of an injury where no one's going to care
about that, right you know.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It happened in UFC. So Connor McGregor had this fight
scheduled this past month or whatever it was, and he
pulled out of the fight because he broke a toe.
He broke a toe, and everyone was giving him a
hard time like, oh, it's just a broken toe, just
a broken toe, and like other fighters were coming out
in defense of him, going no, you don't get it.
Like if he loses another one and he goes into
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this fight compromise and he loses because he can't put
weight on it or he can't get his cardio in,
then all of a sudden, like his time as being
one of the top fighters in the sport, which may
already be over, is done. And so they were like
they were talking about like, look, you can you can
isolate it to just being a broken toe, but yeah,
it's to the reputation. He went into his previous fight
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compromised and he ended up snapping his leg because he had.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
What you should do is the people who say things
like that, you should line them up, let them feel
like what it feels before their toe is broken, and
then break their toe and let them see what it
feels like and what they're able to do. And then
once you break their toe and then go fight in
a cage. Well, I mean, let's not even take them
into the cage. Let me see you, let me see
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you operate normal with that broken toe. See people, what
people fail to realize is groceries. How serious a nature.
You don't realize how important something is until it's injured.
Like like, I mean, it's the littlest of things, right,
Like you don't you get your pinky toe jacked up?
You dislocate your pinky toe. Don't even break it, you
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dislocate it. You're going to be compromised and your ability
to just even put on a shoe, let alone move around,
your your ability So okay, you're going to use a
pair of slides or something like that. I want to
see you do an athletic move the same way when
that just the pinky toe, because if we go to
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the big toe, that's a whole nother game. You're talking
about a whole entirely. You might be able to drive
through a broken pinky toe.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Didn't That didn't that ruin Dion's career.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
The turf toe. Turf Toe's ruined a lot of people's career, man,
a lot of people's.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I was gonna say, you know a lot about feet, LaVar.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yes, yes, you being a smart ass, I do. I
know a few things. Oh, thank you, I know a few.
I know a few things about all kinds of injuries
because I've had multiple injuries. Injure your pinky and and
and see if you're able to use your hand the
same exact way you're not. You don't realize how painful
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something is and how important it is until you don't
have it to use it, your pointer, finger, whatever it
may be. I've injured all of them. I've injured like
almost every single finger on my hand at some point
in time. And you don't realize, like for for this,
like being able to grab or or be able to
maneuver and move to manipulate a man that's that's almost
(16:01):
half your your size, like bigger like you. You try it,
let me say you try.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I've talked to Brady about this one, the one that
always like I have to almost cringe and turn away
when I see it. Is when a quarterback follows through
on a pass and his finger is thumb whatever it
is hitting the helmet.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, man, I had.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I can't even imagine that.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
On a tackle and my finger still is it's a
mallet finger. Now. I had two a defensive linemen and
an offensive lineman collide with their their helmets and I
don't know, like with the ball carrier, and my finger
was in there like two two helmets boom. So it
wasn't even like me hitting my hands.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Off the Monday Night football graphic or the helmets collided
back to there.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
It was just like that with my finger in between.
And you want to talk about there's a level of
pain that actually goes beyond human comprehension where your owl
like doesn't even come out until until the pain actually
starts to resonate with your understanding. So you just have
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a face where you know that this hurt really bad,
and you have the owl face, but the noise doesn't
even come out until the pain finally hits your brain
and says that you should be saying owl right now. Ah, Jam,
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that's the level, Jam, Jam, that's the right. Then you
start jumping around like you know how you got to
jump around and like you like do all kinds of
different things. That's what it happens. But there's some types
of pains that just it just it freezes you like
you knew it, you knew it was bad. It's believe me, guys,
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some of y'all who say some.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Of this stuff, I get back out there.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, don't do it fantas team.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
The truth is there are some guys who are so
much better athletes, far superior as athletes that you know,
you kind of talk about with that whatever that one
hundred percent is, well, they're one hundred percent even injured
is better than year hundred percent, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Health.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
So yeah, there's there's those elements of things too that
that factor in. But that's where it's it's hard for
people to kind of understand. Like if if you've got
a quarterback who's not very mobile, but all of a
sudden he's got a leg injury, a foot injury, and
ankle injury. Now he's even less mobile, Like that's a
that's a problem. Like it's it's way worse than what
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you could ever imagine so this time of year, because
we're three games now into the season and the guys, remember,
no one's really playing preseason, so now that soreness, that
dealing with, like how their body's going to feel this
new normal it's setting in now it used to be preseason.
You kind of get through that a little bit, and
then you get into the regular season and then you
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start to kind of build up that callous to it
almost at times. Now these guys are just now hitting it,
and I think that's one of the things to keep
an eye on moving forward as we look at these
injury reports, where like guys are out for the season,
guys are going on ir guys are constantly going to be,
you know, on and off the injury report for a
nagging injury. It's gonna play a huge impact, I think
(19:22):
at the beginning of the season, but look how it
impacts the playoff race at the end of the season.
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couple of pieces of sound for you, guys. They're from
Josh Allen. I don't know if you heard the initial
comments he had after Monday night's game, but some people
kind of took it and ran with it that maybe
he was taking a dig no pun intended at Stefan
Diggs and maybe being a little bit better off than
you know, just like some people kind of.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Look really good man. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Do you want to hear the postgame comments and you
tell me before we is okay? So this was Josh
Allen post game on Monday night.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
It's paying dividends of what we've worked on throughout the
entire offseason and through training camp, of the everybody eats mentality,
and again, it could be your play, this play. You
never know when it's gonna happen. And that's that's the
beauty of it. When guys get to buy into this
and really understand, like I may not get the ball
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four or five times thrown to me a game, but
the one or two times I do, I'm gonna have
opportunities to be.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
In the end zone.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
And you know, it's it's a it's a fun and
wonderful thing. When you had a bunch of guys that
don't care about the stats, they don't care about the touchdowns.
And again, I think throughout practice we've just had this
mindset of like, hey, let's just do things the right
way and find ways to win football games.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
So that was the comment one hundred per site. Okay,
it's one, but at the same time, I mean, but
but here's the reality of that is when you feel
that that release of pressure that's coming from somebody who
has that type of influence over you as a singular
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person and over your entire locker room as a person,
then when once that's alleviated, you feel it like it
feels very different when that energy is removed. And that's
all I mean. Whether whether it's it's whether it was
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intended to be a direct shot at Stephan Diggs or not,
he's basically telling you his truth. That's that's what I
would say in this In this matter, they he feels
as though they're able to operate, He's able to operate
at a higher level because he's not. Every single time
he walks up to the line of scrimmage, he's not
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looking at Stephan Diggs like f I got to get
the ball to step on, like he's not in practice,
like I got to get the ball to steph On,
he can actually operate and be freely who he wants
to be as an athlete, as a player, as a
leader in those moments, because you don't have that lingering
(23:15):
like over top of you weight of knowing that if
you do not look for step On Diggs in this moment,
what you're going to have to deal with and the
energy of it. And then everybody else, well, you think
the other players are thinking like, well, I know he's
going to step on. I know he's looking for steph On.
I'm gonna run my rub I'm gonna do what I
need to do. But I know the ball is that
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he's going to try to get it to step On.
And then when you try to get it to step
On and the coverage is on him and it's not
open for him, now he's got to try to scramble
and run and move around, and then Stepan's still upset
that you didn't try to get him the ball in
that moment. It's just I'm certain, and it looks like
this is a team that's playing more relaxed, more confident,
(23:56):
and more together than what they have. I mean, they
look better right now than what they probably did in
the past years with stephan On Diggs.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I mean it is early though you know.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
It is, but it still it's a bit early. They
beat Jacksonville, who's owned three. They beat a Miami team
Drumdon by the way, that lost to a not Maybe
it wouldn't have mattered, you know. They barely beat an
Arizona team that is improved. Jonas will be the first
to tell you that. But I don't know that they're
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gonna be a playoff contender or a team I think
this is really the first week well, they'll be somewhat challenged.
I granted Baltimore's one and two, but there's still a
very good team. They go Baltimore at Houston at New York,
the New York Jets this three week stint. I think
it's gonna test them, one from playing against better defenses,
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but two whether or not they need that go to
guy because here's the thing is, when you're playing in
two games the last couple of weeks that are just blowouts,
really doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
You'd spread the football round.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Joe Brady can call whatever plays he wants, but when
it's tight and you need to play on third down,
you need to play on the red zone you need
to play at the end of the game. You need
that guy, you need that difference maker. So it's all
good and fun now when you're blowing teams out, but
once you get to those tighter games, you need someone
(25:22):
to be able to step up and separate. I don't
think that Buffalo has been put in that position yet
this season. I think they're going to be one of
the next three weeks coming up, and so I don't
know if it's a shot or not. I could care less,
to be honest, but I would say this like schematically,
any team I've been a part of, at least that
(25:44):
I actually say that I was a part of at
the NFL level, when we would talk about, oh, we're
gonna spread the ball, I'm like, Okay, that means we
got no faith in one guy being to go make
that play.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Because I can tell you.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
This much from the early years when I was in Cleveland,
my rookie year in particular, I'll never forget some of
the situations being in Arizona and Rob Chainzinski calling down
the play and it's talked about like throwing a hail
Mary to Kellen Winslow to K two and doors sleeping
there and we're kind of sitting there talking to the
sidelines because we had Broilin, we had we had Kellen.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
They're both having great years.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
And Ken's comment was, hey, man, if you throw it
up to him, like if you throw at his direction,
he will he will come down with it. Now he
goes it might be an OPI might be something else
that comes along, but like he will make sure he
will catch that football. And he did, and it was
right on the sidelines. I thought he got two feet in.
It didn't look like he did based on the refs
(26:42):
opinion of the play. But the point is like he
came down with it, like threw it up in trafficked
a bunch of bunch of people came down with it.
You got to you gotta be able to have guys
like that, and when you don't in the NFL, in
this league, yeah, it doesn't usually work out well in
tight games. Right, If Kansas City needs to play, they're
going to find a way getting into Kelsey. That's just
(27:04):
how it works. So maybe that guy will emerge for
Josh Allen of Buffalo. Maybe it will be Dalton Kinkaid,
who we talk to Peter earlier this week, he mentioned it.
He's been pounding the table for the last couple of
years trying to get kinkaid going. But I don't know
who it's going to be. Maybe it's Kean Coleman or
whoever they're trying to kind of lean on. But someone
(27:24):
eventually has to emerge as that guy to replace Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
You just have to have that in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So Josh Allen, you know, being asked about those comments, which,
by the way, it doesn't strike me as his mo
to call somebody out like that following a game or
take a shot at somebody. He doesn't seem like that
type of dude, but he did. He did have to
address that yesterday with the media.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Now, I know there's a lot of people talking out there. Again,
I'm not trying to tear down anybody. I've loved everybody
that I've played with, you know, and you don't have
to tear other people down to build each other up.
And you know, we're building each other up right now,
and that's all we're trying to do, trying to stay
together as a team, and we're really caring about each other.
And you know, everybody in this building's got that feeling,
(28:08):
you know what I mean, You know what I mean,
I with former whether it's former players. Yeah, and again
I love I love fourteen. I still do. But I
everyone wants to keep making this thing a thing, and
you know, we're so focused on what's going on inside
of our building and that's the only thing that we're
caring about right now.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Take that bar even called them fourteen.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
That's a sign of Yeah. But again, I still think
that the addressing of it is because of the just
because the energy of it, well, the presence of it.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I think I wonder too. It's it's not like Stefan
Diggs had like a huge role in the offense the
last like what nine games of the year last year.
It's kind of you know, I mean, it felt like.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
It was, but it was very well chronicled how Stefan
Diggs was reacting to the end of games, during the games,
after the games, after the ce in leaving the locker room,
like the interactions every everybody knows, I mean, even the
way he departed, the you know, the organization and even
(29:10):
the comments that came when he you know what, what
did they say at this point in time, they just
thought it was right to to you know, eat eat that,
eat that situation, Like even with what it was costing,
then whatever was I just to me it's it is
something that into Q's point. When you had that type
of a guy there, you you either have to to
(29:34):
shoulder it and deal with what comes with having Because
the most selfish dudes on a team are the cornerbacks
and the receivers. Everybody knows that they're touched. They're just
different people there there. They are the ones that are
out there on an island. They are the only ones
that are by themselves period. Like no one else is
(29:56):
out there on an island, like a cornerback or or
a receiver.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Like if they had a radio show, they would do
it solo.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
They're very there. They are very very isolated and different people.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
You see the shot, he just took it us. What
do you mean himself a wide receiver?
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Yeah, yeah right, And he is different, you know, and
and he is a diva and he always wonder if
do you have a solo show Jonas? That would be
ten dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Okay, well listen, he does a Q.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
He only does two pros and a cup of joe.
Because they didn't take the Jonas Knox Show for this
time slot.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I mean, I don't know, I don't know. Why was
it we have to go there? I mean, since since
we're on the topic.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
He would step over bodies mic to walk to that
mic and have a conversation and guess.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Who would be right behind him farting and laughing right
along with me? Right, that's the setup.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, and you know that's the setup. And you know
what Lee would say, riverside and riverside at a fart
on both your corpses. But I'm glad you brought it
two to four Eastern time every single Saturday.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Here you go Sports Radio. Yeah, you better be careful.
You won't be two to four this weekend.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's true.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
You are right.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
You are my get guard into the building.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, you better be careful. My god, it is how
important you.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Are, LaVar.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You know this guy? Nope, Nope, it is coming up
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
And for that we turn it over to our executive
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Speaker 8 (32:45):
Lap, Good morning everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, Brady,
good morning, var Hey guys. In case you miss this,
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Hey Brady, Hey guys, In case you.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Miss this.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
What we mentioned Lee Vikings running back Aaron Jones already
has high aspirations for his return to Glambeau.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 10 (33:13):
If you're not thinking about the zone, you're thinking about
the wrong thing. No, definitely, and I'm definitely leaping, definitely
leaping up there. It depends on which en zone I
was scoring. But I'm either end zone.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
It's not too tall, so it is kind of high
up there, but I can still get up there, so
either one. Hopefully there's a Vikings fan and one of them,
so I can jump up to them. I think that'll
be a cool, pretty cool shot, pretty cool side by
side with the.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Two jerseys and league you guys.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I mean, I think it's interesting while not jump into
a Green Bay Packer fan.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
He's gonna wear a beer or two if he goes.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
He did, he didn't choose to leave. They win a
different direction from me, like, why do the fans have
to hate him because he went to a different d.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
He he did write an article two before the game,
So if theyone actually saw that, I don't feel is
it Players Tribune or The Athletic or something. He wrote
an article basically stating that green Bay will always be
in his herd.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
There you go. We want it both Jersey, Sat, Bay Sat.
So jump into a green Bay Packer fans arms. I
think that will be the ultimate flex, to be honest,
cause it's like, you know, I gotta go play for
this team, and I just scored on y'all and they
could go towards y'all losing the game. But I love y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
We are just is what it is. They are listening
to this show of state wide in Wisconsin right now.
I'm telling you, right now, he's gonna wear an old
Milwaukee at twenty four hours or if he jumps up
into the stands, it's gonna happen. And by the way,
you can make money on that. On DraftKings plus one
early plus one thirty five he scores a touchdown to
one hundred of.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Oh, he's going to score a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, do you think do you think Kevin O'Connell is
going what.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
You're probably sitting now.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Nope, old in the box. You don't think Kevin O'Connell's
gonna have something dialed up for him so you can
get me into.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Balling right now?
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Lee Minnesota they are they are, Hey, packer's defense looking
good too.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Though, too many ways to get him the ball, bro
He's getting well against the Titans. It was they're going
to make sure they get Aaron Jones, and I bet
are you sure? Said?
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Where do you think he's gonna ring eventually? As a
packer who goes to the Vikings? We got Greg Jennings, obviously,
you got Brett Favre, Darren Sharper, Ryan long Wills, Darius Smith.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
You do have a lot of guys to go there.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
You skip past Darren Sharper pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
I did go pretty quick. He's probably he's probably the
best for one easy for I'm just saying. I'm just
saying that, you know, we're talking strictly on field, all right, No, Diddy,
So is it so? I don't know is he to say?
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Is he the same part?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Is?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I mean that year the year that Barv had a Minnesota,
the first year he was a good one, like especially
coming off the year with the Jets where you thought,
oh listen that you know, time is over, Like he
was on fire that year, and so I would say
he's probably still the uh, you know, the guy who
had the best, the best season, and they boot his
ass off when he returned to Lambo too. He beat
(36:23):
him in Lambo though, Yeah, oh what else we got guys?
Speaker 8 (36:27):
In case you missed this, Robert Kraft has purchased a
rare autographed Tom Brady rookie card for a whopping one
hundred and twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Why he.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
Could literally just say, Hey, Tom, I've beive you millions
over the years, can I just get one of those
sign with?
Speaker 6 (36:47):
Why would you have to pay for it.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
To get it? Take a picture of you real quick?
Speaker 7 (36:52):
He's paying someone else for a guy who he's got
his cell phone number will probably answer at any moment
if he calls.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Did he get guilted into it because Brady defended him
at the roast? Is that what this is? What's it matter?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Tom? Tom's number? What is this?
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Tom
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
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We got college football and NFL on the brain and
in this show, and we're gonna start with some injury issues.
We got injury issues in the NFL we will discuss.
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We're also gonna talk about whether or not Josh Allen
was taking a shot at Stefan Diggs. He tried to
clarify that. We'll weigh in on that discussion as well too.
College football's got a mess on their hands. It's called
nil and apparently if you ain't paying what you promised,
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Speaker 5 (01:46):
Is that what you're calling it?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
And that would incite it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now, I got this weird feeling that I forgot something,
but I'm just gonna figure it out when I get there.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
You're like the mom from home alone.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, there's just get it.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
He wasn't wasn't it wasn't that like her first reaction.
She gets on the plane, She's like, I keep feeling
I forgot something.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yes, And the guy was like her husband's like no, no,
come on.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
You know the garage doors.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I mean, uh so you're not taking your kid, so
you're good. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I figure that one out.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Black underwear, right, you can't pack white.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
We know that. What else?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
By the way, By the way, that is one fact
that's true.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Is Lee going to this extravaganza as well?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Of course?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Yeah that's true. Jonas does not travel without lake.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
You know, every every under taker has to have their
Uh there you go.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Are you are all three of you guys in the
same flight?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
No? No, come on, I don't believe var.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
That's smart.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I think we were originally booked on the same flight.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I wanted nothing more than to walk onto the flight
and see LeVar in first class and just make a
scene as we walk by him.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
That's all I wanted. I didn't want to do that
to you guys.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Wow, I could have set us next to each other Jonas,
but I spared you, especially since what I ate last night.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Uh oh, put you a few rows away from me.
Why take the chance if you know you're gonna be
sitting on a flight.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Well that's what he did.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
He's got a reputation to uphold, obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Because man that the flight to stay colledge is kind
of a pain in the ass from La not like
it's it's connector and.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You'll realize it takes you all day. It's an all
day affair.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So knowing that, Lee still decided to gas up with
whatever was going to cause problems in the digestive system.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
So klopenio poppers, oh really.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean, and Jalopeno poppers should sound like, oh,
that's good, but connecting it to you and the outcome.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
By the way, Jalopenno poppers are such a drunken high
school college food, Like I don't know who the hell
eats a sober and willingly.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
You know, what I learned the other day was apparently
if you like dive down deep enough in the ocean,
it's like impossible for you to fart.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
But when you're up in an.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
Airplane, because of the pressure from the tube and all that, like,
it's it forces you to fart more. That's why airplanes
smell so bad. Everyone's farting. Yeah, yeah, it's like a
pressure thing.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Yeah, I don't I go to the restroom if I
have to do any of that, I don't wait. You
go to the restroom on the airplane just to fart
if I have to. Yeah, so far, I mean I
would be trement. Yeah, I mean I let it go too.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Yeah, he's just like a lot boxing yourself then.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, but it's it's it's sparing the other people. That
is true until that door opens, And I mean I
just look at it like this. At least it was
contained to one small area. I stay in there for
like two seconds. Wash my hands, look at my nose.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Make it look like you're just going number one right?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Oh man, Well, I try to be courteous, I mean someone. Yeah,
some would say you're a gentleman for that.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I would like to believe in my real life and
not on the radio show, that I'm a gentleman.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Have you ever had someone who wronged you at some
point on the flight, flight attendant maybe, and then you
just actually went and stood next to them and let
it go.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
No, no, no, that one is literally from yesterday. A
darts player farted on live television. Really, Oh my god,
you had to explain himself afterwards.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Oh wow, it was very gargle lee.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Are you constantly looking for farts to download and they
just come to me?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I don't think it works like that, you have to
be looking for it.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I would.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
I don't have to be looking for it across my desk,
and I'm not gonna not roll it.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
So who sent that to you?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I came across into my research? You know, you know
it's great about this. Brady will send leave sound requests
and it never gets.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
In the show. But he's got false Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Here's my question is who brought it across your desk?
Speaker 8 (06:23):
The universe? Oh my god, I watched darts all the time.
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Hey, Lee, Oh my god, oh man, well listen, uh
he goes.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I had to explain himself. It was so loud on TV.
The host when I walked over was like, what was that?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh man?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
You see him walk over to pick up his darts
and he literally does a two foot two legged squats.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
And what did it sound like?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Wait? Oh wait, wait, wait where the hell they go?
Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Sounds like a bomb.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
All right, Well, look, hopefully everything goes well.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I mean I've heard bombs on movies, you know, TV
with you for you out there? So how does he
know what? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I'm with you though, Okay, well listen, I don't know
if that could be considered as hazardous or an injury
that could occur if you push too hard or something
like that, or who knows, maybe.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You should certainly have to injure something.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I mean, it does feel like, you know, the injuries
are starting to pile up in the NFL, Like we've
got a lot of guys banged up. We're not even
at week four and we got a lot of people
banged up now, Sam Donald, Brock Party, they did return
to practice. Brock Purty at a back issue. Sam Donald
got his knee nicked up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
The Eagles, AJ Brown and DeVante Smith, we don't know
their status, but you know that appears like maybe they
can't give it a go. Joe Mixon, Alvin Kamara, Austin
Eckler's out because he's got a concussion. Jordan Love waiting
to see whether or not he'll be available because of
the knee injury. Apparently Justin Herbert says, even though he
played in Sunday's game, that his ankle feels better this
(08:16):
Wednesday than it did last Wednesday. I have no idea
how that's possible, but apparently that's the case. But injuries
are piling up and it does bring up the question
that I wanted to ask you guys, did you ever
feel okay at the end of a season, like, I mean,
like to where it was like, yeah, listen, I mean,
you know, it's a long year, but yeah, I'm good
(08:36):
if we needed to go another week, and I wouldn't
need a ton of medical attention because it just feels
like from the get go you are compromised for three
four months of your life every single year.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
That's coming out of training camp, Like you don't start
the season at one hundred percent. Help, I mean, you
got to think about it. You're running around your practice,
you have a grueling schedule to start with with just
training camp, so you're never one hundred percent. Not being
(09:09):
one hundred percent is being one hundred percent. So the
quicker you can understand coping with pain and being a
prehaber because you're going to be dealing with with bumps,
Nick's bruises, you know, just just the soreness of doing
it every single day. You're not being one hundred percent
(09:31):
is one hundred percent. That's that's the key. If you
can embrace that and understand that I still can perform
at the highest of levels even though my leg might
not feel correct, or my toe might not feel all
the way right, or my finger or my elbow, whatever
it may be, that's the norm. That's like, I've never
heard of anyone saying that, I just feel like nothing
(09:55):
is wrong. I don't think I've ever met anyone. It
might exist. I don't know if they living in real
real time, or if they live in an alternate universe,
or if that's their coping mechanism. I don't know. But
you're going to feel something, You're there's going to be
something you have to deal with, and that's that's just
a part of That's just a part of being an athlete.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
I recalled years where like I had been on IR
the way I ended the season with a Liz Frank injury.
You know, the one year I'd broke a bone in
my right index finger on my throwing hands, so I
had to get pins put in and I wasn't gonna
able to.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Play for six weeks. We had six weeks left, so
that I had to be put on IR for that.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
I remember like talk to my agent about, you know,
different varying injuries I was dealing with, and I'm like,
I can't go on Ira again, like I just I
can't do it for my resume, for my reputation, and
try to stay like I need to finish out the season,
even though I was on a cocktail of painkillers and
muscle relaxers and everything else, just to finish between like
(11:01):
some Torrent Carlage bruised ribs, you know, posterial laborum tear.
You know, I'd come back from like a concussion, some
other things. It was like the last thing I wanted.
And that's the hard part for most these guys is
like you start building up some injuries, these things are gonna,
to Levar's point, they're gonna nag them the rest of
the season and in some cases, if they need to
(11:22):
be surgically repaired, not be able to be fixed until
well maybe the rest of your life at least in
the short term. For the purpose of this conversation, you know,
you're playing through something that ultimately is limiting whatever that
ceiling or a hundred percent is, like it's a varying
(11:42):
degree now of what you're able to get to. It's
not your one hundred percent healthy hundred percent, it's your
ninety percent healthy. I'm eighty five percent healthy, whatever, that
one hundred percent is which isn't gonna be like your
max capacity. And the hard thing for players is unless
guys are truly paid and secure financially, it's a really
(12:03):
difficult decision because if they go out there play poorly,
no one wants to hear that it's about an injury.
No one ever wants to hear that, and it looks
bad on the resume. It's going to hurt their next
opportunity to try to get a contract. And that's the
tough part for a lot of these guys who are
trying to either play through something or come back from something.
Is they they know, Like think about Russell Wilson's calf injury.
(12:26):
This has lasted way longer than any of us thought,
and we don't know the specifics to it, right. I
guess almost heard at the beginning of training camp he
tweaked it right going into week one. The general point though,
is he knows this is his last shot when he
gets when he gets out there probably to be a
starting quarterback. After that, it's just going to be a
you know, backup opportunities most likely. So he's probably looking
(12:48):
at this like I want to make sure I am
one when I have a shot to go back out there,
because otherwise it's not worth it for me to go
out there and not play the way I'm capable of
because of an injury where no one's going to care
about that, right you know.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It happened in UFC. So Connor McGregor had this fight
scheduled this past month or whatever it was, and he
pulled out of the fight because he broke a toe.
He broke a toe, and everyone was giving him a
hard time like, oh, it's just a broken toe, just
a broken toe, and like other fighters were coming out
in defense of him, going no, you don't get it.
Like if he loses another one and he goes into
(13:25):
this fight compromise and he loses because he can't put
weight on it or he can't get his cardio in,
then all of a sudden, like his time as being
one of the top fighters in the sport, which may
already be over, is done. And so they were like
they were talking about like, look, you can you can
isolate it to just being a broken toe, but yeah,
it's to the reputation. He went into his previous fight
(13:46):
compromised and he ended up snapping his leg because he had.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
What you should do is the people who say things
like that, you should line them up, let them feel
like what it feels before their toe is broken, and
then break their toe and let them see what it
feels like and what they're able to do. And then
once you break their toe and then go fight in
a cage. Well, I mean, let's not even take them
into the cage. Let me see you, let me see
(14:10):
you operate normal with that broken toe. See people, what
people fail to realize is groceries. How serious a nature.
You don't realize how important something is until it's injured.
Like like, I mean, it's the littlest of things, right,
Like you don't you get your pinky toe jacked up?
You dislocate your pinky toe. Don't even break it, you
(14:32):
dislocate it. You're going to be compromised and your ability
to just even put on a shoe, let alone move around,
your your ability So okay, you're going to use a
pair of slides or something like that. I want to
see you do an athletic move the same way when
that just the pinky toe, because if we go to
(14:53):
the big toe, that's a whole nother game. You're talking
about a whole entirely. You might be able to drive
through a broken pinky toe.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Didn't That didn't that ruin Dion's career.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
The turf toe. Turf Toe's ruined a lot of people's career, man,
a lot of people's.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I was gonna say, you know a lot about feet, LaVar.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yes, yes, you being a smart ass, I do. I
know a few things. Oh, thank you, I know a few.
I know a few things about all kinds of injuries
because I've had multiple injuries. Injure your pinky and and
and see if you're able to use your hand the
same exact way you're not. You don't realize how painful
(15:35):
something is and how important it is until you don't
have it to use it, your pointer, finger, whatever it
may be. I've injured all of them. I've injured like
almost every single finger on my hand at some point
in time. And you don't realize, like for for this,
like being able to grab or or be able to
maneuver and move to manipulate a man that's that's almost
(16:01):
half your your size, like bigger like you. You try it,
let me say you try.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I've talked to Brady about this one, the one that
always like I have to almost cringe and turn away
when I see it. Is when a quarterback follows through
on a pass and his finger is thumb whatever it
is hitting the helmet.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, man, I had.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I can't even imagine that.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
On a tackle and my finger still is it's a
mallet finger. Now. I had two a defensive linemen and
an offensive lineman collide with their their helmets and I
don't know, like with the ball carrier, and my finger
was in there like two two helmets boom. So it
wasn't even like me hitting my hands.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Off the Monday Night football graphic or the helmets collided
back to there.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
It was just like that with my finger in between.
And you want to talk about there's a level of
pain that actually goes beyond human comprehension where your owl
like doesn't even come out until until the pain actually
starts to resonate with your understanding. So you just have
(17:10):
a face where you know that this hurt really bad,
and you have the owl face, but the noise doesn't
even come out until the pain finally hits your brain
and says that you should be saying owl right now. Ah, Jam,
(17:31):
that's the level, Jam, Jam, that's the right. Then you
start jumping around like you know how you got to
jump around and like you like do all kinds of
different things. That's what it happens. But there's some types
of pains that just it just it freezes you like
you knew it, you knew it was bad. It's believe me, guys,
(17:54):
some of y'all who say some.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Of this stuff, I get back out there.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, don't do it fantas team.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
The truth is there are some guys who are so
much better athletes, far superior as athletes that you know,
you kind of talk about with that whatever that one
hundred percent is, well, they're one hundred percent even injured
is better than year hundred percent, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Health.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
So yeah, there's there's those elements of things too that
that factor in. But that's where it's it's hard for
people to kind of understand. Like if if you've got
a quarterback who's not very mobile, but all of a
sudden he's got a leg injury, a foot injury, and
ankle injury. Now he's even less mobile, Like that's a
that's a problem. Like it's it's way worse than what
(18:41):
you could ever imagine so this time of year, because
we're three games now into the season and the guys, remember,
no one's really playing preseason, so now that soreness, that
dealing with, like how their body's going to feel this
new normal it's setting in now it used to be preseason.
You kind of get through that a little bit, and
then you get into the regular season and then you
(19:02):
start to kind of build up that callous to it
almost at times. Now these guys are just now hitting it,
and I think that's one of the things to keep
an eye on moving forward as we look at these
injury reports, where like guys are out for the season,
guys are going on ir guys are constantly going to be,
you know, on and off the injury report for a
nagging injury. It's gonna play a huge impact, I think
(19:22):
at the beginning of the season, but look how it
impacts the playoff race at the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
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(20:32):
couple of pieces of sound for you, guys. They're from
Josh Allen. I don't know if you heard the initial
comments he had after Monday night's game, but some people
kind of took it and ran with it that maybe
he was taking a dig no pun intended at Stefan
Diggs and maybe being a little bit better off than
you know, just like some people kind of.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Look really good man. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Do you want to hear the postgame comments and you
tell me before we is okay? So this was Josh
Allen post game on Monday night.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
It's paying dividends of what we've worked on throughout the
entire offseason and through training camp, of the everybody eats mentality,
and again, it could be your play, this play. You
never know when it's gonna happen. And that's that's the
beauty of it. When guys get to buy into this
and really understand, like I may not get the ball
(21:24):
four or five times thrown to me a game, but
the one or two times I do, I'm gonna have
opportunities to be.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
In the end zone.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
And you know, it's it's a it's a fun and
wonderful thing. When you had a bunch of guys that
don't care about the stats, they don't care about the touchdowns.
And again, I think throughout practice we've just had this
mindset of like, hey, let's just do things the right
way and find ways to win football games.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
So that was the comment one hundred per site. Okay,
it's one, but at the same time, I mean, but
but here's the reality of that is when you feel
that that release of pressure that's coming from somebody who
has that type of influence over you as a singular
(22:09):
person and over your entire locker room as a person,
then when once that's alleviated, you feel it like it
feels very different when that energy is removed. And that's
all I mean. Whether whether it's it's whether it was
(22:29):
intended to be a direct shot at Stephan Diggs or not,
he's basically telling you his truth. That's that's what I
would say in this In this matter, they he feels
as though they're able to operate, He's able to operate
at a higher level because he's not. Every single time
he walks up to the line of scrimmage, he's not
(22:51):
looking at Stephan Diggs like f I got to get
the ball to step on, like he's not in practice,
like I got to get the ball to steph On,
he can actually operate and be freely who he wants
to be as an athlete, as a player, as a
leader in those moments, because you don't have that lingering
(23:15):
like over top of you weight of knowing that if
you do not look for step On Diggs in this moment,
what you're going to have to deal with and the
energy of it. And then everybody else, well, you think
the other players are thinking like, well, I know he's
going to step on. I know he's looking for steph On.
I'm gonna run my rub I'm gonna do what I
need to do. But I know the ball is that
(23:36):
he's going to try to get it to step On.
And then when you try to get it to step
On and the coverage is on him and it's not
open for him, now he's got to try to scramble
and run and move around, and then Stepan's still upset
that you didn't try to get him the ball in
that moment. It's just I'm certain, and it looks like
this is a team that's playing more relaxed, more confident,
(23:56):
and more together than what they have. I mean, they
look better right now than what they probably did in
the past years with stephan On Diggs.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I mean it is early though you know.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
It is, but it still it's a bit early. They
beat Jacksonville, who's owned three. They beat a Miami team
Drumdon by the way, that lost to a not Maybe
it wouldn't have mattered, you know. They barely beat an
Arizona team that is improved. Jonas will be the first
to tell you that. But I don't know that they're
(24:30):
gonna be a playoff contender or a team I think
this is really the first week well, they'll be somewhat challenged.
I granted Baltimore's one and two, but there's still a
very good team. They go Baltimore at Houston at New York,
the New York Jets this three week stint. I think
it's gonna test them, one from playing against better defenses,
(24:51):
but two whether or not they need that go to
guy because here's the thing is, when you're playing in
two games the last couple of weeks that are just blowouts,
really doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
You'd spread the football round.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Joe Brady can call whatever plays he wants, but when
it's tight and you need to play on third down,
you need to play on the red zone you need
to play at the end of the game. You need
that guy, you need that difference maker. So it's all
good and fun now when you're blowing teams out, but
once you get to those tighter games, you need someone
(25:22):
to be able to step up and separate. I don't
think that Buffalo has been put in that position yet
this season. I think they're going to be one of
the next three weeks coming up, and so I don't
know if it's a shot or not. I could care less,
to be honest, but I would say this like schematically,
any team I've been a part of, at least that
(25:44):
I actually say that I was a part of at
the NFL level, when we would talk about, oh, we're
gonna spread the ball, I'm like, Okay, that means we
got no faith in one guy being to go make
that play.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Because I can tell you.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
This much from the early years when I was in Cleveland,
my rookie year in particular, I'll never forget some of
the situations being in Arizona and Rob Chainzinski calling down
the play and it's talked about like throwing a hail
Mary to Kellen Winslow to K two and doors sleeping
there and we're kind of sitting there talking to the
sidelines because we had Broilin, we had we had Kellen.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
They're both having great years.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
And Ken's comment was, hey, man, if you throw it
up to him, like if you throw at his direction,
he will he will come down with it. Now he
goes it might be an OPI might be something else
that comes along, but like he will make sure he
will catch that football. And he did, and it was
right on the sidelines. I thought he got two feet in.
It didn't look like he did based on the refs
(26:42):
opinion of the play. But the point is like he
came down with it, like threw it up in trafficked
a bunch of bunch of people came down with it.
You got to you gotta be able to have guys
like that, and when you don't in the NFL, in
this league, yeah, it doesn't usually work out well in
tight games. Right, If Kansas City needs to play, they're
going to find a way getting into Kelsey. That's just
(27:04):
how it works. So maybe that guy will emerge for
Josh Allen of Buffalo. Maybe it will be Dalton Kinkaid,
who we talk to Peter earlier this week, he mentioned it.
He's been pounding the table for the last couple of
years trying to get kinkaid going. But I don't know
who it's going to be. Maybe it's Kean Coleman or
whoever they're trying to kind of lean on. But someone
(27:24):
eventually has to emerge as that guy to replace Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
You just have to have that in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So Josh Allen, you know, being asked about those comments, which,
by the way, it doesn't strike me as his mo
to call somebody out like that following a game or
take a shot at somebody. He doesn't seem like that
type of dude, but he did. He did have to
address that yesterday with the media.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Now, I know there's a lot of people talking out there. Again,
I'm not trying to tear down anybody. I've loved everybody
that I've played with, you know, and you don't have
to tear other people down to build each other up.
And you know, we're building each other up right now,
and that's all we're trying to do, trying to stay
together as a team, and we're really caring about each other.
And you know, everybody in this building's got that feeling,
(28:08):
you know what I mean, You know what I mean,
I with former whether it's former players. Yeah, and again
I love I love fourteen. I still do. But I
everyone wants to keep making this thing a thing, and
you know, we're so focused on what's going on inside
of our building and that's the only thing that we're
caring about right now.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Take that bar even called them fourteen.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
That's a sign of Yeah. But again, I still think
that the addressing of it is because of the just
because the energy of it, well, the presence of it.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I think I wonder too. It's it's not like Stefan
Diggs had like a huge role in the offense the
last like what nine games of the year last year.
It's kind of you know, I mean, it felt like.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
It was, but it was very well chronicled how Stefan
Diggs was reacting to the end of games, during the games,
after the games, after the ce in leaving the locker room,
like the interactions every everybody knows, I mean, even the
way he departed, the you know, the organization and even
(29:10):
the comments that came when he you know what, what
did they say at this point in time, they just
thought it was right to to you know, eat eat that,
eat that situation, Like even with what it was costing,
then whatever was I just to me it's it is
something that into Q's point. When you had that type
of a guy there, you you either have to to
(29:34):
shoulder it and deal with what comes with having Because
the most selfish dudes on a team are the cornerbacks
and the receivers. Everybody knows that they're touched. They're just
different people there there. They are the ones that are
out there on an island. They are the only ones
that are by themselves period. Like no one else is
(29:56):
out there on an island, like a cornerback or or
a receiver.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Like if they had a radio show, they would do
it solo.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
They're very there. They are very very isolated and different people.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
You see the shot, he just took it us. What
do you mean himself a wide receiver?
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Yeah, yeah right, And he is different, you know, and
and he is a diva and he always wonder if
do you have a solo show Jonas? That would be
ten dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Okay, well listen, he does a Q.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
He only does two pros and a cup of joe.
Because they didn't take the Jonas Knox Show for this
time slot.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I mean, I don't know, I don't know. Why was
it we have to go there? I mean, since since
we're on the topic.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
He would step over bodies mic to walk to that
mic and have a conversation and guess.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Who would be right behind him farting and laughing right
along with me? Right, that's the setup.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, and you know that's the setup. And you know
what Lee would say, riverside and riverside at a fart
on both your corpses. But I'm glad you brought it
two to four Eastern time every single Saturday.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Here you go Sports Radio. Yeah, you better be careful.
You won't be two to four this weekend.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's true.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
You are right.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
You are my get guard into the building.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, you better be careful. My god, it is how
important you.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Are, LaVar.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You know this guy? Nope, Nope, it is coming up
next year though. From the tire rack dot Com studios,
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(32:08):
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Good thing the guys are here to bring you in
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
And for that we turn it over to our executive
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Speaker 8 (32:45):
Lap, Good morning everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, Brady,
good morning, var Hey guys. In case you miss this,
the Lap, heyvar Hey guys, In case you miss this, Hayley,
Hey Brady, Hey guys, In case you.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Miss this.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
What we mentioned Lee Vikings running back Aaron Jones already
has high aspirations for his return to Glambeau.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 10 (33:13):
If you're not thinking about the zone, you're thinking about
the wrong thing. No, definitely, and I'm definitely leaping, definitely
leaping up there. It depends on which en zone I
was scoring. But I'm either end zone.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
It's not too tall, so it is kind of high
up there, but I can still get up there, so
either one. Hopefully there's a Vikings fan and one of them,
so I can jump up to them. I think that'll
be a cool, pretty cool shot, pretty cool side by
side with the.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Two jerseys and league you guys.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I mean, I think it's interesting while not jump into
a Green Bay Packer fan.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
He's gonna wear a beer or two if he goes.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
He did, he didn't choose to leave. They win a
different direction from me, like, why do the fans have
to hate him because he went to a different d.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
He he did write an article two before the game,
So if theyone actually saw that, I don't feel is
it Players Tribune or The Athletic or something. He wrote
an article basically stating that green Bay will always be
in his herd.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
There you go. We want it both Jersey, Sat, Bay Sat.
So jump into a green Bay Packer fans arms. I
think that will be the ultimate flex, to be honest,
cause it's like, you know, I gotta go play for
this team, and I just scored on y'all and they
could go towards y'all losing the game. But I love y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
We are just is what it is. They are listening
to this show of state wide in Wisconsin right now.
I'm telling you, right now, he's gonna wear an old
Milwaukee at twenty four hours or if he jumps up
into the stands, it's gonna happen. And by the way,
you can make money on that. On DraftKings plus one
early plus one thirty five he scores a touchdown to
one hundred of.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Oh, he's going to score a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, do you think do you think Kevin O'Connell is
going what.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
You're probably sitting now.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Nope, old in the box. You don't think Kevin O'Connell's
gonna have something dialed up for him so you can
get me into.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Balling right now?
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Lee Minnesota they are they are, Hey, packer's defense looking
good too.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Though, too many ways to get him the ball, bro
He's getting well against the Titans. It was they're going
to make sure they get Aaron Jones, and I bet
are you sure? Said?
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Where do you think he's gonna ring eventually? As a
packer who goes to the Vikings? We got Greg Jennings, obviously,
you got Brett Favre, Darren Sharper, Ryan long Wills, Darius Smith.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
You do have a lot of guys to go there.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
You skip past Darren Sharper pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
I did go pretty quick. He's probably he's probably the
best for one easy for I'm just saying. I'm just
saying that, you know, we're talking strictly on field, all right, No, Diddy,
So is it so? I don't know is he to say?
(35:59):
Is he the same part?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Is?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I mean that year the year that Barv had a Minnesota,
the first year he was a good one, like especially
coming off the year with the Jets where you thought,
oh listen that you know, time is over, Like he
was on fire that year, and so I would say
he's probably still the uh, you know, the guy who
had the best, the best season, and they boot his
ass off when he returned to Lambo too. He beat
(36:23):
him in Lambo though, Yeah, oh what else we got guys?
Speaker 8 (36:27):
In case you missed this, Robert Kraft has purchased a
rare autographed Tom Brady rookie card for a whopping one
hundred and twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Why he.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
Could literally just say, Hey, Tom, I've beive you millions
over the years, can I just get one of those
sign with?
Speaker 6 (36:47):
Why would you have to pay for it.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
To get it? Take a picture of you real quick?
Speaker 7 (36:52):
He's paying someone else for a guy who he's got
his cell phone number will probably answer at any moment
if he calls.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Did he get guilted into it because Brady defended him
at the roast? Is that what this is? What's it matter?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Tom? Tom's number? What is this?
Speaker 8 (37:11):
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