September 27, 2024 • 35 mins
The guys talk about the Cowboys win over the Giants on TNF and all of the criticism that Mike Zimmer has received as the Cowboys new DC, the idea that Micah Parson's hasn't been performing, LaVar's fear of heights, Lee's Leftovers, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Wow yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Hey Cat's got school,
they got classes. Yeah, we're hotel.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I want to say I would like to say this
and be as kind as possible. If you don't like
Alison Change, you're a piece of crap. Oh okay, let
me just put.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That out there right now, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
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is there for big noon kickoff for the Colorado UCF
(01:15):
matchup that'll be taking place tomorrow, and myself, LeVar and
Lee de Lap were here live at the Graduate Hotel
in State College. Top notch service all the way through
they have been fantastic. Everybody who's helped us out here,
Pat Mark, Bonnie who we met earlier last night, Aaron
who stopped by. He was with us here from hour
(01:38):
one all the way through to the end of our two.
Can't thank you guys enough. It's been a really good time,
and it seems like the time is going to get
even better and better. Lee has polished off his first
bloody Mary and we've got a LeVar Island siding.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, we do so sore.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
We are rocking and rolling here an hour three and
something tells me you're not going to get a nap
in either.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Lee.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
You're just gonna go straight, like full throttle, full bottle
at this point, that's what you fail.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Naps are for post game Saturday, between between the Penn
State game and NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, so what time do y'all fly out? No? No, no, no,
not what you think. Look, that's not what you think.
That's not what you think.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I didn't think anything.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's not I didn't think any of naps for the flight.
I was just saying what level he was on he was,
I got you.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah, it's all good, that's all.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Uh So somewhere we go away, we go the the
Dallas Cowboys win last night. They beat the New York
Giants kind of a lackluster game, most notably the injuries
to Micah Parsons. We will wait to get an MRI
on that Molik Neighbors suffered a concussion as well too.
Daniel Jones is playing better, but the Giants fall there.
(03:01):
Did that win last night, because I don't know how
you guys felt about it. Did that win last night
do anything to increase your confidence in the Dallas Cowboy It.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Took mind down. Actually, I'm not even trying to be funny,
I really did. I do not feel like that was
a win that eliminated or dissolved questions that I had
surrounding this team. In fact, it kind of it raised
a level of intensity of thinking that can this team
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actually win week in and week out? That's what it
made me feel. Maybe it was because it was a
short week. Maybe it was because it was a divisional opponent.
These guys play each other a little differently, the familiarity
with one another. Maybe those are the elements that are
coming into play when watching these games. But not only
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did it not dispel things that I may have had
concerns about but you have an injury to Micah. I
don't know how serious that injury is. You know, people
want to be overly critical like Mica is not having
the most impactful of games, like oh, he's a non factor, this, that,
and the other. You try going through two and three
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people that are blocking you at the National Football League level,
you try to do it. What people fail to understand
is one Lawrence, Lawrence is hurt as well. You have
a guy who is giving basically offenses such fits that
by them scheming him in their blocking scheme is opening
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and allowing for other other linebackers to and other players
to make plays, which that's what they need to do.
When you have somebody who is commanding the type of
attention that one player is commanding, then the other guys
have got to show that they have the ability to
to make sure that they're they're they're getting home with
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what it is they're supposed to be doing. So. I
just don't feel like if Michael Parsons is not playing
for the Dallas Cowboys that obviously they're not going to
be okay without him being on the field. That's for one.
Then for two, I look at this offense and I say,
this is a this is a New York Giants team
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that is struggling to find its way. Now where they
are on the scale of good or bad, I'm not
quite sure where they fall, but they're not good. They're
not a good team. I do know that I would
not label them as a good team. And yet you struggled. Now,
your defense held them to field goals. But are you
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able to hold a team that is not a mediocre team,
a subpar team, middle of the pack maybe bottom of
the pack team. Are you able to hold a upper team,
a upper echelonts team? You look at their schedule, the
teams they're going to be playing, are you going to
be able to do the same thing against those teams
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you're you're playing in the upcoming weeks. I just think
that it's there's a lot more questions that were remaining
after that game. I don't you know. I know everybody's like, well,
it's a win. It is they go to two and two,
But I just don't see how you look out a
two and two team that won in the fashion that
they won last night to say that they're moving into
a direction where you feel confident about what they have
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going on moving short week on the road though short
week they get, well, it was a short week. Now
they get a little bit of time to rest. Go
go Aque.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
No.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
And it's a divisional game too, which we know how
port than those are in the NFL. So look, I
think there's some bright spots. You know, they're really good
against the Giants running the football last night, that's been
one of the issues for the Dallas Cowboy was just
stopping to run, so it was good to see that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
But on the flip side, they ran.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
The ball okay, kind of could when they needed to
a little bit last night. I think I would have,
you know, rather than being able to close out the
game and the four minute offense, instead of having to
line up for Brendan Aubrey field goal that missed and
then gave the Giants at least one more kind of
Hill Mary type opportunity. But that's the thing is this
defense I think is going to get better as the
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season moves forward. Obviously, you got to have guys like
Micah Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence. They're healthy, which both got
banged up last night. But you know, the scheme is
is you're starting to see it work out you know
that the Giants had a hard time staying on the
field on third down. As I said, they made them
one dimensional where you know, give Daniel Jones credit, he
found a rhythm at times, but when they got down
the red zone, they couldn't execute. You know, they were
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they were over two in both those trips, and that
ultimately ended up being the difference in the game. So
I kind of look at it and say it's steps
in the right direction for the Dallas Cowboys. But comparatively speaking,
look at the two teams they've beat so far. They
drummed Cleveland, they beat a New York Giants team. Neither
of those teams were looking at saying or at the
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top of the NFL. I think we'd say they're in
the bottom half of the league. And so that's the
thing for Cowboys fans or you know, you've got your
five hundred at this point, you've got a nice division win,
but you really haven't beat anyone we're looking at as
true Super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And that's not a team. The Giants aren't a team
that went out there last night and did what the
teams that beat up on them were doing. You're not
running in between the tackles with with this team that
they brought out there last night, Singletary is not running
the ball like a Henry or like a Camara. And
you're going to go up against the teams you look
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at the schedule, you're going up against teams that the
very thing that these teams do best is run the
ball in between the tackles. That's going to be a problem.
So I don't look at this New or this this
Dallas defense is saying that they answered the call of
being able to stop the run and be a better
run stopping team. It was just a team that did
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not have the ability to run the ball like the
teams that have been able to really dominate the the
line of scrimmage against the Dallas Cowboys when they were opponents.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Next five weeks for the Cowboys at Pittsburgh home against Detroit,
they've got their buy and then they're at the Niners
at the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So tough road to home, man, it really is. That's
a tough one. Yeah. And with the questions do you say,
coming out of this this New York Giants game, do
you feel confident that that stretch of teams that run
stretch of teams that they're in the right they're in
a proper place in terms of how they're developing and playing,
that they're going to be able to win those gangs.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I had the Cowboys in the Super Bowl. I feel
awful after last night. That's like, there was nothing I
saw last night that I thought, Okay, you know me, yeah,
short week, you know, on the road. But I just
you know, the Micah Parsons injury, and I don't know, man.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Something seems a little off.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Now, it hasn't stopped Rex Ryan from taking a couple
of digs when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys. So
he was apparently he was in the mix for the
defensive coordinator job. I don't even know if he was
actually interviewed for it, but you know, he'd kind of
thrown his name out there before. And he was talking
recently with ESPN Radio and said the following I could
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have fixed the Cowboys defense in a New York minute.
But that being said, they couldn't pony up the money
or I would have been there. And then when it
came to the subject of Mike Zimmer, Rex Ryan said
the following quote, you brought in a guy that was
twenty ninth in the league his last two years at Minnesota.
The enthusiasm he brings when he left, that's the guy
that's going to inspire you. This can go really bad
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for Dallas. So, Rex Ryan who appears, why do you.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Think about that? Cube? What's your take on that?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Rex?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Little thirsty thirsty?
Speaker 7 (10:43):
I mean, look, here's the thing is, we see a
lot of folks at ESPN politicking for opportunities in jobs.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It must not be a great work environment. I don't know.
I'm just saying, like everyone must love.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Working at ESPN so much they can't help themselves with,
say what job they're up for interviewing for, or what
job they should have had.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
But Mike Zimmer has done a fine job thus far.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
You know, we'll see how things pan out the rest
of season. It's it's too early to be able to
take a victory lap or just say that it's it's
not working out either way. But I just I don't
understand why guys are, you know, calling for other dude's
jobs like that.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I'm not sure if there's a more of a backstory there.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
They're a little more behind this, maybe between those two
in their relationship. But you know, Mike Zimmer has been
doing it for a long time, is well respected.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And it's not like Mike Zimmer was there for the
playoff game when the defense got disintegrated by Green Bay.
So it's like like this is all on Mike Zimmer.
Like we're four games into the season, like, and everybody's
already wanting.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
To call for gigs and say what you know, what
needs to change? And you got Rex Ryan.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well because you're if you're Mike McCarthy, you're hanging on
bath right. I mean, let's just be clear here.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
They're not going a fireman season.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Though. You lose that game to New York. I don't know, bro,
you think they would have fired my I mean that's
not Jerry Jones's history. That's not something that he does.
But you lose to the New York Giants in New
York and you fall to one in three in an
all in year. You just gave all that money to
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Dak Prescott. So Dak Prescott is not going to be
Mike McCarthy's alibi. He's not. He's not going to be
his scapegoat. So this solely falls on Mike McCarthy to
win and win. Now, So if he's if he's as
poor as one in three out the gate, you have
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to assume that that Jerry Jones, taking responsibility for the
woes and the struggles of this franchise, might make a
drastic move, and maybe a move that has been outside
of the realm or the scope of how they've handled
things in the past. I don't think it's beyond the
realm of possibility that Jerry Jones would be thinking to
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go in a different direction from Mike McCarthy before season's end,
especially if they had lost this game to New York.
I think that the writing would have been on the wall.
His clock would have been ticking, and for no other
reason than you're losing to the cellar dwelling team of
the NFC East right now, which means that if you
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lost to the cellar dwelling team of the NFC East,
you know what, that makes you more of a seller
dweller in the NFC East. Well, that's not the reputation
that Jerry Jones is wanting to have.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Well, I mean, Jerry Jones did say that Mike McCarthy
will be judged on the playoffs, not necessarily the end.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, you got to get to the playoffs. Yeah, I'm
just one in three. Doesn't get you to the playoffs,
my guy, you gotta be getting to the playoffs to
be judged on them. So maybe Mike McCarthy's idea of
it is, if I don't go to the playoffs, then
I don't get judged just to go home early.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
It is to judgment by Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
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Com Studios live from State College at the Graduate Hotel.
We're going to tell you about some bad news one
of the best players in the league might have received,
and it's yours.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Next year on FSR, be sure to catch live editions
of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LeVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern,
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Speaker 4 (14:34):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here live
from the Graduate Hotel in State College. We had a
big one coming up at his homecoming weekend here in
State College, PA. We got Illinois, we got Penn State.
We've got LeVar Arrington seeing the team that he did
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the work, did the leap against Lee's a bloody Marion.
Levar's got a LeVar Island. We are off and running here. Brady,
do you have a drink recommendation for Lee at this hour?
To go with number two? Like, what would you say
would be drink number two?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Oh big, I'm not a bloody merry guy. I would
say screwdriver would probably be the next thing on top.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Screwdriver that works, Greyhound, something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What are you waiting for?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's a good morning drink.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
You know, you got your vitamin C in there and
then you've got your alcohol, which would check the box
for Lee.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
All right, well you get dehydrated, very good.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
We're gonna have Lee's leftovers. Who knows what'll be leftover.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Of Lee at the end of this whole thing, but
that'll be happening here about twenty minutes from now from
the tire rack dot Com studio. So maybe some more,
some more issues for Christian McCaffrey. According to Eric Branch
of the San Francisco Chronicle, he spoke with a medical
director who says that based on what he's seen and
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the information he has when it comes to Christian McCaffrey,
that we could be looking at a more lengthy absence,
maybe more closer to a couple of months for Christian McCaffrey,
as opposed to this week or two week issue that
was apparently the case at the start of the year.
He's on IR He went to Germany to go and
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talk to a specialist.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And so if we're talking about expiration day, sure be
hitting after they get them contracts, don't they goad? Dang?
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
He did get it redone in the off season. So
this looks like it's, you know, clearly worse than what
we expected. And the fact that the guy's flying over
to Germany should be an indication that there's a problem there.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I have a quiet knock out of vacation while you're
getting a little bit of you know what I mean,
a little bit of treatment.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
And he got married this summer.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I hear the landscape is beautiful over there at this
time of the year in Germany from the y. Yeah, yeah,
that's two times a which, so I guess.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I will look into that and do the research on that.
It's a nice little mug you got there.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Is it.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Let me ask you this, when it comes to the Achilles,
if it starts to go.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't think there's anything you can do to stop it.
So like that's my opinion of it. That's my opinion.
Now I could be wrong. I'm not I'm not an expert.
I'm not a doctor. I'm not a medical person. I
just felt like I knew my my heel was was
feeling weird because my balance was thrown off because of
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all of the work I was getting done with my
meniscus tears and my knee, and my balance was off.
My heel starts my left hill started getting really really tight.
I did prehab, I did all of the things I
was asked to do. I did a ton of stretching.
I did a ton of you know, icing, ultrasounding, you know,
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red laser lights, all this stuff that everybody says gets
the blood flowing, da da da, because they say you
don't get a lot of blood flow in certain areas,
right like your your toes, your fingers, your your your
achilles tendon. There's not a crazy amount of blood flow
that you get to those those parts of your your
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outer extremities. So but I did everything that I could
possibly do humanly possible outside of going to a foreign
land and getting my platelets spun and all kinds of
stuff and injected and bulled out and whatever else that
that you're done doing, and then you know the cryo
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chambers or whatever it is. Outside of craziness. I did
everything traditionally that you were supposed to do, and that
bad boy, it popped when it was ready to pop.
I wasn't even doing an athletic move when it popped.
I was standing there Jason Witness holding me. I'm holding him,
and I felt like somebody came and cheap shot at
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me in the back of my legs and it was
my achilles tendant popping. I personally don't think that you
can stop an injury like an achilles tendon, because you
would have to in my estimation, there's some way, somehow
that you would have to get your body mechanics and
maybe that's what they're going to do in Germany or
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whatever it may be. But I just think that the
body mechanics of how your body moves what you're doing,
if it leads to your Achilles tendon being the pain
area of your body, you're not going to change that.
The way he runs, the way he moves his motions
from left or to write, whatever it may be. I
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think those are the reasons why you can't change those things.
You can't change them like you can try. But ultimately,
when you have people chasing that after you and doing
whatever it is they're going to do, you're going to
run the way that you're you're running. You're going to
move and try to make moves the way you make moves,
and there's no way of getting around that.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
The interesting thing about you you're talking about that is,
you know, you go back through Christian McCaffrey's time as
a Carolina panther, and there's a period of time where
he was incredibly durable for the amount of touches that
he was getting, and then something came into his life,
something they call almost felt like a hurricane, you know,
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maybe still like a wreck, yeah, or but maybe it's
it's more like the power of love, and it's times
pointed out earlier this summer, Christian McCaffrey did get married,
and I don't know, maybe it's maybe it's the power
of love that's gotten them with.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I mean, we we did a deep dive into this
Gonas and LeVar.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
There was a significant upticking injuries to Christian McCaffrey to life,
and now that they've they've stepped it up to another
level getting married.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I'm just saying, man, maybe it has something to do.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
With some extra energy. I'm just saying, God, I'm not
mad at at the theory. Jesus, I'm not mad at
the theory that's.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Gonna be the power of love.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Did you qu Rana up for that or was she
just on point like that, because that's kind of I mean,
that was kind of kind of cool.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
I'm gonna give credits to Raina, but there are some
scenes things going power of love.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Take them legs hammer.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I mean, it's just what unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean, if you if you're going to go out,
go out this way, go out with the girl and
the con track. I mean, if that's what it's going
to be, you go off the power of love and
the power of love. By the way, yeah, and the
power of love. Godly, I mean you know, I mean
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being being a pro athlete something has its perks, is all.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Uh loot me?
Speaker 5 (22:30):
How far away is Providence? Hey?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Brother? You at state college? Man? Throttle down, bro throttle
downttle up? We get?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You do some help?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Sorry, my eyes work.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's the power of love. Brother.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Sorry. I don't hate him, not at all.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
So basically so so basically he doesn't really have If
it's gonna go, it's gonna go.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
There's nothing he can do about it.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So and I don't I don't mean this to be
a dumb question, but it's probably gonna sound dumb. Is
he almost better off just tearing it and getting it
fixed at this point if it's already on the verge
of going.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And it's a great question, man, It really is a
great question, because the idea of it is is why
would you fix something that isn't broken? But at the
same time, you're having to get things done and you're
you're trying to figure out how to get healthy. So
maybe it isn't not broken. Maybe it is broken, and
it's not all the way broken. You remember when Richard
Sherman tore his with the Niners. He was telling that
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he was upset because he was telling or might have
been when he was still in Seattle, but he was
telling the trainers there was something wrong. And then when
he popped it, he was yelling at somebody on the sideline,
might have been Pete Carroll or somebody like that, because
he was trying to tell people the same thing you had.
There's something I feel, something feeling. You felt like, bro,
you start to feel there's always a tightness at first,
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but then what I started feeling, you know, you don't
know what, you don't know, But I started feeling like
a vibration, Like there was like this vibration in it,
Like I do certain things, make a cut, this, that
and the other, and it would vibrate. Or I'd just
be sitting at rest, like I'd just be sitting on
the airplane or sitting on my couch or laying in
my bed, and the thing started vibrating. So I started, like,
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you know, going to these specialists asking what to do,
da da da. They were giving me like these boots
and stuff like that. I had a boot that I
would put on and It had a strap that I
would pull the strap up and velcrow it like almost
where my calf muscle was, to to keep my foot
pulled and keep my achilles tended stretched. I had walking boots,
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you name it. I had every single thing that preventatively
that you could use and do stem you know, like
I said, the lasers. I had ended up buying a
home laser. How about a home laser unit to go
up and down my uh my, my achilles tendon.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I had.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I bought all these different I went to you know
that these different I went to Brookstone, got got the
thing that massages your achilles tendon and all kinds.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I was getting my hands, yeah, bro, I was getting
my I was getting my hamstring stretched out. They're saying,
your hamstring, your it band, all these different things that
go into like where whatever you got going on down
in your lower strip. I was doing every single thing
you could possibly do. And when that joint went, it
just it went, it went. The Brookstone was like travel stuff.
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They had like all kinds of they got like all
kinds of technology stuff. Man.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Us. They had this thing for your feet. You sit
down and put your feet in it.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
On shoes hell yeah, they weren't shoes.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It was like, uh like this big I had too.
In fact, I had one that you just stuck your
feet in, and what's wrong with you? All?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
The other one's sober at this table.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That's what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Why do you think I'm not sober? I've sipped one
long eye by the words, Lee's second drink.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Oh god, why didn't you not up?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Oh my man.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Anyway, it just feels like he's got like I don't
know what the options are. Like now we're talking two months.
By that point, it's gonna be and.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Then he's gonna take all the time. He's gonna come
back and it's gonna pop anyway.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I mean, I know what IR looks like.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Why would they not put him on an IR?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Why would they not?
Speaker 7 (26:45):
They might, I mean maybe they're still looking to see
if there's something that they can do to get him
back faster, or maybe they're deciding if they need to
put them an I R so they get the roster
spot back. I'm sure that will be that decision will
be made sometime the next week.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I mean, if you just if you just zoom in,
I think that's where he suffered the injury. What about
I'm just saying right there, I think I'm making this up.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
No, you're not making it.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
We're not spinning yarns here, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
So it is familiar, that's comparable.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Knocks the right.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
So whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
A couple of Zeppelin sightings here at the Graduate in
State College, Old Man where they having a blimp off.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
All right, So coming up next here from the tire
Rack dot com studios, we are going to close up
shop with Lee's leftovers here on a football Friday on FSR.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
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Speaker 2 (28:21):
Get it, Jonas, Do it? Jonas?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Is this the first music video on.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
This one?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
What is it for?
Speaker 8 (28:29):
What?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Like the first music video on MTV?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh? I don't know. It's a dope. That's a dope
video though, it's like it's animated.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports
Radio LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Box with you here
live from the Graduate in State College. We do want
to give again a special thank you to Pat, to
Mark here at the Graduate, to Bonnie Paton. Mark have
been you know, Mark's been making drinks, offees, helping set up.
(29:02):
Pat was very accommodating when we got here. It was
good talking shop with those guys. They have been the
best and it's been a real pleasure being here with
all of that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Hey, we are maby.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
State College's right, You got that right, all right, So
Sudie got that right.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
The fans are out and about, people are already getting
gassed up and getting ready for the breakday this weekend.
So again, thank you to everybody here at the Graduate
Hotel in State College. It is always a good time
at the Graduate and this place held up there into
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the drink, the set up, everything. Good people, good spot.
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If you can get out here to the Graduate in
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Speaker 3 (30:00):
Like smell a little incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Time to find out?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
What's last? It's Lee's.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
All right, Lee?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
What do we got?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
I knew it as I said it. First music video
for MTV was Video Killed the Radio Star.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Oh by that song, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
That socks sucks.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Well, it's Friday. We're at the Graduate Hotel. I got
my second Bloody Mary. But you know what makes this
bloody Mary even better? What's on a Friday at Graduate Hotel?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
What what's at me? It's a football Friday.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
That's all right, that's right. We're doing this again. Yeah
we are.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, Friday.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
There's always.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Your left though, come on, come on, come already.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go,
let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All right, all right, all right, all right, Friday night
is Yeah, it's the whole Friday.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
By Reality your thoughts on this edition of Lee's Leftovers.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Thus far, it sounds like he didn't have anything butter
bloody marriage, just more preoccupied with shrinking.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Yes, that's true, that's going. We're not gonna lie about that. Well, Hey,
we were talking about zeppelins and blimps.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Where are we going? What there are we going?
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Now? Why did you guys see this? Out in South Paula, Brazil,
right where we had the NFL season. The football club
out there was doing a promotional event. They were testing
out a blimp that was promoting their football club and
it went down, went down in a neighborhood in salth Paula. Whoa,
it's It's gone viral on all the internets. You can
see video of it all the internets, all the internets.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Would you guys have any interest in flying in a blimp?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
No, because I wouldn't. I'm afraid of heights.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Really checked out, afraid it'd be interesting. No way, do
you mean you're scared of heights? You get nervous on planes.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
It's the only thing I'm afraid of. No, I don't.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
And by the way, when we got off the plane,
I was gonna kiss the ground like you.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I did I did last night?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I waited for everybody to get off. I'd come out
and I kissed the ground.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
So what like, how high up do you get to
where you start freaking out?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
So if I'm in the inside of a plane for
some reason, I have this false sense of security. Anything
else I freak out. I could be high up and
uh in a hotel looking over the banister and I
like lose my equilibrium, like it's bad.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
So but like, what like how many feet? I don't
know if you're on a step light.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
If I got on, I went I tried to face
my fear. Like I used to ride roller coasters. I'll
throw up now if I do them now. Well, I
used to ride them because they scared the hell out
of me. But I remember one time I tried to
face my fear on on like a high dive, and
I didn't even go up to the highest one. I
went like went to like the second highest one, and
I was like, that's okay. I think I'll go back
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down the steps. And those steps are very difficult to
go go up, let alone go back down. I just can't.
I can't handle hypes. It's like I fear God that's
about it. But Heights is number two on the list. Damn. Yeah,
So there you go. And now it's wild animals. I
never thought I'd fear wild animals until I saw a
mountain lion in real life. A bear didn't take me there,
(33:55):
a mountain lion did. Yeah. I would be afraid. If
I can't face the face with a out animal like
live and in person, I'd be afraid.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Okay, let's go shout out to Twitter. Yeah, they tweeted
us with the music video of video killed the Radio
Start There's going right?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Did they really? Yeah? Tweeted us. Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
They're listening.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Everyone's listen cha, come on, look at this. What are
we doing today?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
What's what's the jam packed in here? I tell you what,
there is no more I got there. There is a
line waiting outside the door to get in here to
listen to us.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Graduate always gives us these awesome yetti mugs. Nothing says
I like being outdoors and drinking like a yetti mug. Really, yeah,
you're gonna break that into daily. I put my bloody
Mary in it before man as we take off.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
He by the way, he's never had Primani Brothers.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Oh yeah, we're doing that today.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You're doing promise today. You gotta do pans. You gotta
have a Brady. You've got Primanny's right, the uh fries
on the sandwich. Have you done for Manny's Brady? Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, Hey Q Man, be.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Saved you big man.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Fries on salads, fries on birders a thousand Ye, hey Man,
be saved man, and crush your show tomorrow, Jonas, I'll
be with you doing your show.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Crush your show tomorrow. We'll watch y'all do y'all thing. Man.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I'll be the main event to the up on game.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Opening the doors, playing event up on game.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, ill at y'all later
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Wow yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Hey Cat's got school,
they got classes. Yeah, we're hotel.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I want to say I would like to say this
and be as kind as possible. If you don't like
Alison Change, you're a piece of crap. Oh okay, let
me just put.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That out there right now, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
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one all the way through to the end of our two.
Can't thank you guys enough. It's been a really good time,
and it seems like the time is going to get
even better and better. Lee has polished off his first
bloody Mary and we've got a LeVar Island siding.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, we do so sore.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
We are rocking and rolling here an hour three and
something tells me you're not going to get a nap
in either.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Lee.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
You're just gonna go straight, like full throttle, full bottle
at this point, that's what you fail.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Naps are for post game Saturday, between between the Penn
State game and NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, so what time do y'all fly out? No? No, no, no,
not what you think. Look, that's not what you think.
That's not what you think.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I didn't think anything.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's not I didn't think any of naps for the flight.
I was just saying what level he was on he was,
I got you.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah, it's all good, that's all.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Uh So somewhere we go away, we go the the
Dallas Cowboys win last night. They beat the New York
Giants kind of a lackluster game, most notably the injuries
to Micah Parsons. We will wait to get an MRI
on that Molik Neighbors suffered a concussion as well too.
Daniel Jones is playing better, but the Giants fall there.
(03:01):
Did that win last night, because I don't know how
you guys felt about it. Did that win last night
do anything to increase your confidence in the Dallas Cowboy It.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Took mind down. Actually, I'm not even trying to be funny,
I really did. I do not feel like that was
a win that eliminated or dissolved questions that I had
surrounding this team. In fact, it kind of it raised
a level of intensity of thinking that can this team
(03:30):
actually win week in and week out? That's what it
made me feel. Maybe it was because it was a
short week. Maybe it was because it was a divisional opponent.
These guys play each other a little differently, the familiarity
with one another. Maybe those are the elements that are
coming into play when watching these games. But not only
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did it not dispel things that I may have had
concerns about but you have an injury to Micah. I
don't know how serious that injury is. You know, people
want to be overly critical like Mica is not having
the most impactful of games, like oh, he's a non factor, this, that,
and the other. You try going through two and three
(04:14):
people that are blocking you at the National Football League level,
you try to do it. What people fail to understand
is one Lawrence, Lawrence is hurt as well. You have
a guy who is giving basically offenses such fits that
by them scheming him in their blocking scheme is opening
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and allowing for other other linebackers to and other players
to make plays, which that's what they need to do.
When you have somebody who is commanding the type of
attention that one player is commanding, then the other guys
have got to show that they have the ability to
to make sure that they're they're they're getting home with
(04:56):
what it is they're supposed to be doing. So. I
just don't feel like if Michael Parsons is not playing
for the Dallas Cowboys that obviously they're not going to
be okay without him being on the field. That's for one.
Then for two, I look at this offense and I say,
this is a this is a New York Giants team
(05:19):
that is struggling to find its way. Now where they
are on the scale of good or bad, I'm not
quite sure where they fall, but they're not good. They're
not a good team. I do know that I would
not label them as a good team. And yet you struggled. Now,
your defense held them to field goals. But are you
(05:42):
able to hold a team that is not a mediocre team,
a subpar team, middle of the pack maybe bottom of
the pack team. Are you able to hold a upper team,
a upper echelonts team? You look at their schedule, the
teams they're going to be playing, are you going to
be able to do the same thing against those teams
(06:04):
you're you're playing in the upcoming weeks. I just think
that it's there's a lot more questions that were remaining
after that game. I don't you know. I know everybody's like, well,
it's a win. It is they go to two and two,
But I just don't see how you look out a
two and two team that won in the fashion that
they won last night to say that they're moving into
a direction where you feel confident about what they have
(06:27):
going on moving short week on the road though short
week they get, well, it was a short week. Now
they get a little bit of time to rest. Go
go Aque.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
No.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
And it's a divisional game too, which we know how
port than those are in the NFL. So look, I
think there's some bright spots. You know, they're really good
against the Giants running the football last night, that's been
one of the issues for the Dallas Cowboy was just
stopping to run, so it was good to see that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
But on the flip side, they ran.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
The ball okay, kind of could when they needed to
a little bit last night. I think I would have,
you know, rather than being able to close out the
game and the four minute offense, instead of having to
line up for Brendan Aubrey field goal that missed and
then gave the Giants at least one more kind of
Hill Mary type opportunity. But that's the thing is this
defense I think is going to get better as the
(07:13):
season moves forward. Obviously, you got to have guys like
Micah Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence. They're healthy, which both got
banged up last night. But you know, the scheme is
is you're starting to see it work out you know
that the Giants had a hard time staying on the
field on third down. As I said, they made them
one dimensional where you know, give Daniel Jones credit, he
found a rhythm at times, but when they got down
the red zone, they couldn't execute. You know, they were
(07:35):
they were over two in both those trips, and that
ultimately ended up being the difference in the game. So
I kind of look at it and say it's steps
in the right direction for the Dallas Cowboys. But comparatively speaking,
look at the two teams they've beat so far. They
drummed Cleveland, they beat a New York Giants team. Neither
of those teams were looking at saying or at the
(07:55):
top of the NFL. I think we'd say they're in
the bottom half of the league. And so that's the
thing for Cowboys fans or you know, you've got your
five hundred at this point, you've got a nice division win,
but you really haven't beat anyone we're looking at as
true Super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And that's not a team. The Giants aren't a team
that went out there last night and did what the
teams that beat up on them were doing. You're not
running in between the tackles with with this team that
they brought out there last night, Singletary is not running
the ball like a Henry or like a Camara. And
you're going to go up against the teams you look
(08:32):
at the schedule, you're going up against teams that the
very thing that these teams do best is run the
ball in between the tackles. That's going to be a problem.
So I don't look at this New or this this
Dallas defense is saying that they answered the call of
being able to stop the run and be a better
run stopping team. It was just a team that did
(08:54):
not have the ability to run the ball like the
teams that have been able to really dominate the the
line of scrimmage against the Dallas Cowboys when they were opponents.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Next five weeks for the Cowboys at Pittsburgh home against Detroit,
they've got their buy and then they're at the Niners
at the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So tough road to home, man, it really is. That's
a tough one. Yeah. And with the questions do you say,
coming out of this this New York Giants game, do
you feel confident that that stretch of teams that run
stretch of teams that they're in the right they're in
a proper place in terms of how they're developing and playing,
that they're going to be able to win those gangs.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I had the Cowboys in the Super Bowl. I feel
awful after last night. That's like, there was nothing I
saw last night that I thought, Okay, you know me, yeah,
short week, you know, on the road. But I just
you know, the Micah Parsons injury, and I don't know, man.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Something seems a little off.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Now, it hasn't stopped Rex Ryan from taking a couple
of digs when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys. So
he was apparently he was in the mix for the
defensive coordinator job. I don't even know if he was
actually interviewed for it, but you know, he'd kind of
thrown his name out there before. And he was talking
recently with ESPN Radio and said the following I could
(10:12):
have fixed the Cowboys defense in a New York minute.
But that being said, they couldn't pony up the money
or I would have been there. And then when it
came to the subject of Mike Zimmer, Rex Ryan said
the following quote, you brought in a guy that was
twenty ninth in the league his last two years at Minnesota.
The enthusiasm he brings when he left, that's the guy
that's going to inspire you. This can go really bad
(10:33):
for Dallas. So, Rex Ryan who appears, why do you.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Think about that? Cube? What's your take on that?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Rex?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Little thirsty thirsty?
Speaker 7 (10:43):
I mean, look, here's the thing is, we see a
lot of folks at ESPN politicking for opportunities in jobs.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It must not be a great work environment. I don't know.
I'm just saying, like everyone must love.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Working at ESPN so much they can't help themselves with,
say what job they're up for interviewing for, or what
job they should have had.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
But Mike Zimmer has done a fine job thus far.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
You know, we'll see how things pan out the rest
of season. It's it's too early to be able to
take a victory lap or just say that it's it's
not working out either way. But I just I don't
understand why guys are, you know, calling for other dude's
jobs like that.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I'm not sure if there's a more of a backstory there.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
They're a little more behind this, maybe between those two
in their relationship. But you know, Mike Zimmer has been
doing it for a long time, is well respected.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And it's not like Mike Zimmer was there for the
playoff game when the defense got disintegrated by Green Bay.
So it's like like this is all on Mike Zimmer.
Like we're four games into the season, like, and everybody's
already wanting.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
To call for gigs and say what you know, what
needs to change? And you got Rex Ryan.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well because you're if you're Mike McCarthy, you're hanging on
bath right. I mean, let's just be clear here.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
They're not going a fireman season.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Though. You lose that game to New York. I don't know, bro,
you think they would have fired my I mean that's
not Jerry Jones's history. That's not something that he does.
But you lose to the New York Giants in New
York and you fall to one in three in an
all in year. You just gave all that money to
(12:19):
Dak Prescott. So Dak Prescott is not going to be
Mike McCarthy's alibi. He's not. He's not going to be
his scapegoat. So this solely falls on Mike McCarthy to
win and win. Now, So if he's if he's as
poor as one in three out the gate, you have
(12:41):
to assume that that Jerry Jones, taking responsibility for the
woes and the struggles of this franchise, might make a
drastic move, and maybe a move that has been outside
of the realm or the scope of how they've handled
things in the past. I don't think it's beyond the
realm of possibility that Jerry Jones would be thinking to
(13:03):
go in a different direction from Mike McCarthy before season's end,
especially if they had lost this game to New York.
I think that the writing would have been on the wall.
His clock would have been ticking, and for no other
reason than you're losing to the cellar dwelling team of
the NFC East right now, which means that if you
(13:23):
lost to the cellar dwelling team of the NFC East,
you know what, that makes you more of a seller
dweller in the NFC East. Well, that's not the reputation
that Jerry Jones is wanting to have.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Well, I mean, Jerry Jones did say that Mike McCarthy
will be judged on the playoffs, not necessarily the end.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, you got to get to the playoffs. Yeah, I'm
just one in three. Doesn't get you to the playoffs,
my guy, you gotta be getting to the playoffs to
be judged on them. So maybe Mike McCarthy's idea of
it is, if I don't go to the playoffs, then
I don't get judged just to go home early.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
It is to judgment by Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
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We're going to tell you about some bad news one
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and it's yours.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here live
from the Graduate Hotel in State College. We had a
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State College, PA. We got Illinois, we got Penn State.
We've got LeVar Arrington seeing the team that he did
(14:57):
the work, did the leap against Lee's a bloody Marion.
Levar's got a LeVar Island. We are off and running here. Brady,
do you have a drink recommendation for Lee at this hour?
To go with number two? Like, what would you say
would be drink number two?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Oh big, I'm not a bloody merry guy. I would
say screwdriver would probably be the next thing on top.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Screwdriver that works, Greyhound, something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What are you waiting for?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's a good morning drink.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
You know, you got your vitamin C in there and
then you've got your alcohol, which would check the box
for Lee.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
All right, well you get dehydrated, very good.
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Speaker 5 (15:49):
We're gonna have Lee's leftovers. Who knows what'll be leftover.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Of Lee at the end of this whole thing, but
that'll be happening here about twenty minutes from now from
the tire rack dot Com studio. So maybe some more,
some more issues for Christian McCaffrey. According to Eric Branch
of the San Francisco Chronicle, he spoke with a medical
director who says that based on what he's seen and
(16:15):
the information he has when it comes to Christian McCaffrey,
that we could be looking at a more lengthy absence,
maybe more closer to a couple of months for Christian McCaffrey,
as opposed to this week or two week issue that
was apparently the case at the start of the year.
He's on IR He went to Germany to go and
(16:35):
talk to a specialist.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And so if we're talking about expiration day, sure be
hitting after they get them contracts, don't they goad? Dang?
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
He did get it redone in the off season. So
this looks like it's, you know, clearly worse than what
we expected. And the fact that the guy's flying over
to Germany should be an indication that there's a problem there.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I have a quiet knock out of vacation while you're
getting a little bit of you know what I mean,
a little bit of treatment.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
And he got married this summer.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I hear the landscape is beautiful over there at this
time of the year in Germany from the y. Yeah, yeah,
that's two times a which, so I guess.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I will look into that and do the research on that.
It's a nice little mug you got there.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Is it.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Let me ask you this, when it comes to the Achilles,
if it starts to go.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't think there's anything you can do to stop it.
So like that's my opinion of it. That's my opinion.
Now I could be wrong. I'm not I'm not an expert.
I'm not a doctor. I'm not a medical person. I
just felt like I knew my my heel was was
feeling weird because my balance was thrown off because of
(17:51):
all of the work I was getting done with my
meniscus tears and my knee, and my balance was off.
My heel starts my left hill started getting really really tight.
I did prehab, I did all of the things I
was asked to do. I did a ton of stretching.
I did a ton of you know, icing, ultrasounding, you know,
(18:15):
red laser lights, all this stuff that everybody says gets
the blood flowing, da da da, because they say you
don't get a lot of blood flow in certain areas,
right like your your toes, your fingers, your your your
achilles tendon. There's not a crazy amount of blood flow
that you get to those those parts of your your
(18:37):
outer extremities. So but I did everything that I could
possibly do humanly possible outside of going to a foreign
land and getting my platelets spun and all kinds of
stuff and injected and bulled out and whatever else that
that you're done doing, and then you know the cryo
(18:57):
chambers or whatever it is. Outside of craziness. I did
everything traditionally that you were supposed to do, and that
bad boy, it popped when it was ready to pop.
I wasn't even doing an athletic move when it popped.
I was standing there Jason Witness holding me. I'm holding him,
and I felt like somebody came and cheap shot at
(19:18):
me in the back of my legs and it was
my achilles tendant popping. I personally don't think that you
can stop an injury like an achilles tendon, because you
would have to in my estimation, there's some way, somehow
that you would have to get your body mechanics and
maybe that's what they're going to do in Germany or
(19:40):
whatever it may be. But I just think that the
body mechanics of how your body moves what you're doing,
if it leads to your Achilles tendon being the pain
area of your body, you're not going to change that.
The way he runs, the way he moves his motions
from left or to write, whatever it may be. I
(20:02):
think those are the reasons why you can't change those things.
You can't change them like you can try. But ultimately,
when you have people chasing that after you and doing
whatever it is they're going to do, you're going to
run the way that you're you're running. You're going to
move and try to make moves the way you make moves,
and there's no way of getting around that.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
The interesting thing about you you're talking about that is,
you know, you go back through Christian McCaffrey's time as
a Carolina panther, and there's a period of time where
he was incredibly durable for the amount of touches that
he was getting, and then something came into his life,
something they call almost felt like a hurricane, you know,
(20:43):
maybe still like a wreck, yeah, or but maybe it's
it's more like the power of love, and it's times
pointed out earlier this summer, Christian McCaffrey did get married,
and I don't know, maybe it's maybe it's the power
of love that's gotten them with.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I mean, we we did a deep dive into this
Gonas and LeVar.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
There was a significant upticking injuries to Christian McCaffrey to life,
and now that they've they've stepped it up to another
level getting married.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I'm just saying, man, maybe it has something to do.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
With some extra energy. I'm just saying, God, I'm not
mad at at the theory. Jesus, I'm not mad at
the theory that's.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Gonna be the power of love.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Did you qu Rana up for that or was she
just on point like that, because that's kind of I mean,
that was kind of kind of cool.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
I'm gonna give credits to Raina, but there are some
scenes things going power of love.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Take them legs hammer.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I mean, it's just what unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean, if you if you're going to go out,
go out this way, go out with the girl and
the con track. I mean, if that's what it's going
to be, you go off the power of love and
the power of love. By the way, yeah, and the
power of love. Godly, I mean you know, I mean
(22:21):
being being a pro athlete something has its perks, is all.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Uh loot me?
Speaker 5 (22:30):
How far away is Providence? Hey?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Brother? You at state college? Man? Throttle down, bro throttle
downttle up? We get?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You do some help?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Sorry, my eyes work.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's the power of love. Brother.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Sorry. I don't hate him, not at all.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
So basically so so basically he doesn't really have If
it's gonna go, it's gonna go.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
There's nothing he can do about it.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So and I don't I don't mean this to be
a dumb question, but it's probably gonna sound dumb. Is
he almost better off just tearing it and getting it
fixed at this point if it's already on the verge
of going.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And it's a great question, man, It really is a
great question, because the idea of it is is why
would you fix something that isn't broken? But at the
same time, you're having to get things done and you're
you're trying to figure out how to get healthy. So
maybe it isn't not broken. Maybe it is broken, and
it's not all the way broken. You remember when Richard
Sherman tore his with the Niners. He was telling that
(23:40):
he was upset because he was telling or might have
been when he was still in Seattle, but he was
telling the trainers there was something wrong. And then when
he popped it, he was yelling at somebody on the sideline,
might have been Pete Carroll or somebody like that, because
he was trying to tell people the same thing you had.
There's something I feel, something feeling. You felt like, bro,
you start to feel there's always a tightness at first,
(24:03):
but then what I started feeling, you know, you don't
know what, you don't know, But I started feeling like
a vibration, Like there was like this vibration in it,
Like I do certain things, make a cut, this, that
and the other, and it would vibrate. Or I'd just
be sitting at rest, like I'd just be sitting on
the airplane or sitting on my couch or laying in
my bed, and the thing started vibrating. So I started, like,
(24:25):
you know, going to these specialists asking what to do,
da da da. They were giving me like these boots
and stuff like that. I had a boot that I
would put on and It had a strap that I
would pull the strap up and velcrow it like almost
where my calf muscle was, to to keep my foot
pulled and keep my achilles tended stretched. I had walking boots,
(24:48):
you name it. I had every single thing that preventatively
that you could use and do stem you know, like
I said, the lasers. I had ended up buying a
home laser. How about a home laser unit to go
up and down my uh my, my achilles tendon.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I had.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I bought all these different I went to you know
that these different I went to Brookstone, got got the
thing that massages your achilles tendon and all kinds.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I was getting my hands, yeah, bro, I was getting
my I was getting my hamstring stretched out. They're saying,
your hamstring, your it band, all these different things that
go into like where whatever you got going on down
in your lower strip. I was doing every single thing
you could possibly do. And when that joint went, it
just it went, it went. The Brookstone was like travel stuff.
(25:42):
They had like all kinds of they got like all
kinds of technology stuff. Man.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Us. They had this thing for your feet. You sit
down and put your feet in it.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
On shoes hell yeah, they weren't shoes.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It was like, uh like this big I had too.
In fact, I had one that you just stuck your
feet in, and what's wrong with you? All?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
The other one's sober at this table.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That's what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Why do you think I'm not sober? I've sipped one
long eye by the words, Lee's second drink.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Oh god, why didn't you not up?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Oh my man.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Anyway, it just feels like he's got like I don't
know what the options are. Like now we're talking two months.
By that point, it's gonna be and.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Then he's gonna take all the time. He's gonna come
back and it's gonna pop anyway.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I mean, I know what IR looks like.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Why would they not put him on an IR?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Why would they not?
Speaker 7 (26:45):
They might, I mean maybe they're still looking to see
if there's something that they can do to get him
back faster, or maybe they're deciding if they need to
put them an I R so they get the roster
spot back. I'm sure that will be that decision will
be made sometime the next week.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I mean, if you just if you just zoom in,
I think that's where he suffered the injury. What about
I'm just saying right there, I think I'm making this up.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
No, you're not making it.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
We're not spinning yarns here, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
So it is familiar, that's comparable.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Knocks the right.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
So whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
A couple of Zeppelin sightings here at the Graduate in
State College, Old Man where they having a blimp off.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
All right, So coming up next here from the tire
Rack dot com studios, we are going to close up
shop with Lee's leftovers here on a football Friday on FSR.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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Speaker 2 (28:21):
Get it, Jonas, Do it? Jonas?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Is this the first music video on.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
This one?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
What is it for?
Speaker 8 (28:29):
What?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Like the first music video on MTV?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh? I don't know. It's a dope. That's a dope
video though, it's like it's animated.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports
Radio LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Box with you here
live from the Graduate in State College. We do want
to give again a special thank you to Pat, to
Mark here at the Graduate, to Bonnie Paton. Mark have
been you know, Mark's been making drinks, offees, helping set up.
(29:02):
Pat was very accommodating when we got here. It was
good talking shop with those guys. They have been the
best and it's been a real pleasure being here with
all of that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Hey, we are maby.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
State College's right, You got that right, all right, So
Sudie got that right.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
The fans are out and about, people are already getting
gassed up and getting ready for the breakday this weekend.
So again, thank you to everybody here at the Graduate
Hotel in State College. It is always a good time
at the Graduate and this place held up there into
their bargain, so we really do appreciate the accommodations, the food,
the drink, the set up, everything. Good people, good spot.
(29:38):
If you can get out here to the Graduate in
State College. Can't recommend it enough. A reminder though, that
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Speaker 3 (30:00):
Like smell a little incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Time to find out?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
What's last? It's Lee's.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
All right, Lee?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
What do we got?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
I knew it as I said it. First music video
for MTV was Video Killed the Radio Star.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Oh by that song, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
That socks sucks.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Well, it's Friday. We're at the Graduate Hotel. I got
my second Bloody Mary. But you know what makes this
bloody Mary even better? What's on a Friday at Graduate Hotel?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
What what's at me? It's a football Friday.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
That's all right, that's right. We're doing this again. Yeah
we are.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, Friday.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
There's always.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Your left though, come on, come on, come already.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go,
let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All right, all right, all right, all right, Friday night
is Yeah, it's the whole Friday.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
By Reality your thoughts on this edition of Lee's Leftovers.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Thus far, it sounds like he didn't have anything butter
bloody marriage, just more preoccupied with shrinking.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Yes, that's true, that's going. We're not gonna lie about that. Well, Hey,
we were talking about zeppelins and blimps.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Where are we going? What there are we going?
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Now? Why did you guys see this? Out in South Paula, Brazil,
right where we had the NFL season. The football club
out there was doing a promotional event. They were testing
out a blimp that was promoting their football club and
it went down, went down in a neighborhood in salth Paula. Whoa,
it's It's gone viral on all the internets. You can
see video of it all the internets, all the internets.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Would you guys have any interest in flying in a blimp?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
No, because I wouldn't. I'm afraid of heights.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Really checked out, afraid it'd be interesting. No way, do
you mean you're scared of heights? You get nervous on planes.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
It's the only thing I'm afraid of. No, I don't.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
And by the way, when we got off the plane,
I was gonna kiss the ground like you.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I did I did last night?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I waited for everybody to get off. I'd come out
and I kissed the ground.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
So what like, how high up do you get to
where you start freaking out?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
So if I'm in the inside of a plane for
some reason, I have this false sense of security. Anything
else I freak out. I could be high up and
uh in a hotel looking over the banister and I
like lose my equilibrium, like it's bad.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
So but like, what like how many feet? I don't
know if you're on a step light.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
If I got on, I went I tried to face
my fear. Like I used to ride roller coasters. I'll
throw up now if I do them now. Well, I
used to ride them because they scared the hell out
of me. But I remember one time I tried to
face my fear on on like a high dive, and
I didn't even go up to the highest one. I
went like went to like the second highest one, and
I was like, that's okay. I think I'll go back
(33:31):
down the steps. And those steps are very difficult to
go go up, let alone go back down. I just can't.
I can't handle hypes. It's like I fear God that's
about it. But Heights is number two on the list. Damn. Yeah,
So there you go. And now it's wild animals. I
never thought I'd fear wild animals until I saw a
mountain lion in real life. A bear didn't take me there,
(33:55):
a mountain lion did. Yeah. I would be afraid. If
I can't face the face with a out animal like
live and in person, I'd be afraid.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Okay, let's go shout out to Twitter. Yeah, they tweeted
us with the music video of video killed the Radio
Start There's going right?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Did they really? Yeah? Tweeted us. Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
They're listening.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Everyone's listen cha, come on, look at this. What are
we doing today?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
What's what's the jam packed in here? I tell you what,
there is no more I got there. There is a
line waiting outside the door to get in here to
listen to us.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Graduate always gives us these awesome yetti mugs. Nothing says
I like being outdoors and drinking like a yetti mug. Really, yeah,
you're gonna break that into daily. I put my bloody
Mary in it before man as we take off.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
He by the way, he's never had Primani Brothers.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Oh yeah, we're doing that today.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You're doing promise today. You gotta do pans. You gotta
have a Brady. You've got Primanny's right, the uh fries
on the sandwich. Have you done for Manny's Brady? Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, Hey Q Man, be.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Saved you big man.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Fries on salads, fries on birders a thousand Ye, hey Man,
be saved man, and crush your show tomorrow, Jonas, I'll
be with you doing your show.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Crush your show tomorrow. We'll watch y'all do y'all thing. Man.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I'll be the main event to the up on game.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Opening the doors, playing event up on game.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, ill at y'all later
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