September 30, 2024 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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This time zone again, Uh, what is it? Nine am
Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific? Yeah, yeah, three am Hawaii.
You know, got to give a good love morning Superman.
What time is it in Bangladesh? Oh, I don't know,
probably afternoon drive. I would assume we're big time man
global on the app.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
What up ripped my shirt off?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Men?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Oh okay, I bet a little caught up.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
In the spirit, didn't you.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
Yeah, I mean I got Mark over there changing his
pick before he was so, you know, concerned about the
UCF fans, the fact that he was, you know, not
picking them.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But oh way, did he break the desk? Did I
see it when he jumped on the desk it looked
like it was falling apart afterwards?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Well, that is an interesting question.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
The desk itself, obviously has made so it can be
rather disassembled quickly and moved.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Every week we're in a different spot.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
So the question of whether or not he broke it,
I don't think he broke it. I do think that
there's parts of it that could be broken, but the
entire desk I don't think it's broken.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So yeah, he was. He was very fire physical.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
No, he just jumped on it and then then it
wasn't It wasn't created or made to carry weight.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It's there to look good, is essentially what it's there for.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, that was it was fun to watch. You know,
it's fun being in state college. Yeah, uh, you know,
good good people all the way through.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Fun experience lead to laugh and I gotta go on
the field before the Penn State Illinois game.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Will walk around a little bit, lead to that met
Jack Ham, doug he met the Ham Damn yeah, damn yeah.
Jonas didn't want to go to practice its cue.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I didn't. That's that's not surprising to me, though.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
Again, I just the more of a round Jonas outside
of this show, the more I just I don't understand him.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I just you know, I didn't want to go. Just
as simple as that. Nothing nothing deeper than that.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
He would have got to get up and you know,
up close with the players. He would have been able
to meet the coach, you know, coaches, you know, chat
it up with legends.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It's like, I don't want to go.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, I just want to cruise around, go see the city.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
That's what he did, and would rather go buy a map,
tour as a map, and go walk around.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I got some good brochures. What do we say? We circled.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I had the Uber drivers circle to block on him
so that I could call him a weirdo.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
When we were driving by.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
On the street, I'm just kind of walking along and
I just see some cargo weirdo and I look like, damn.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
You threw your hand up and made some type of emotion.
I don't know. I might have been a bird, a bird.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I'm not sure that nothing in that city, Okay not,
I wouldn't dare, But no, man, what a great town,
favorite airport of all time, state college, the best there.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Is nobody there. Nobody say it is tiny. You could
do cartwheels through that, but the way through it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You're just in and out. But it was a fun ride,
fun time. And I would say a lot more fun
than what the Buffalo Bills got to encounter last night,
Because at what point do you think the Bills realized
and maybe Bills fans realized, Oh, we're just gonna get
our ass beat tonight, like like that's how this.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Is gonna go. Ravens are dangerous.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
Can I pose this question, who is good in the NFL?
Is it just Kansas City? Because because even if they
don't win games, it doesn't make you feel like they
win them convincedly they.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Don't, but they got a history of doing it. That's
the only thing I say is they know how to
win games. And that's why I say I'm not I'm
not concerned with them winning games the way that they're
winning them. As long as they're winning them, that's what
I would say. But a team that's definitively good, I don't.
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I don't think there there is one.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, I would say, man, I think Minnesota is good.
They look good, But is that fool's gold? They're good
right now?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
You know.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
The worst part is to your question of is that
fool's gold? Is how many people are out there right
now going, yeah, this is awesome, man, Sam Darnold MVP
through the month of September.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But there's gonna be.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
That game or that streak of stuff where he turns
into like people. And I've talked to people about this
who have like been said, yeah, but don't you think.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
He's gonna I'm like, yeah, That's the hard part is
in our mind, like.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
We have this first impression built up of what Sam
Donald is gonna be, that he's just gonna fall off
at some point, throw a bunch of picks and turn
into whatever you thought he was with the New York Jets,
whatever you thought he was the Carolina Panthers. Like that's
that's our that's how like human brains work. And now
you look at it and go now, he's playing unbelievable football.
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That he's gonna have bad games. Of course, he had
a bad game here and there.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But the way he's playing.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Right now, when when I go through and watches his tape,
it's incredible. It reminds me of like all the good
things that we used to talk about back when he
was a Southern Cow and he was leading that team,
which I don't think people had such like an understanding
of where Southern Cow was at that point, because you know,
I think they won the Pac twelve the one year
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he was there, that he led to a Rose Bowl
that year in one of those two years that those
are not good teams. It was Sam Donald. He had
some wide receivers. That was pretty much it.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It was not.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
It was very similar to some of the Southern Cal
teams we saw, even when Lincoln Riley first got there,
and it was like, man, it's just Caleb Williams and
a few guys in the outside and that's all I
told this thing together. It was the same way back
then Diversus with Clay Hillman. But you know, we never
really gave Sam Donald the benefit of doubt because he
struggled in New York and then now he comes around
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and finds a great opportunity, and I think everyone keeps
waiting for that moment, but I don't think it's coming.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Man.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
And he's played phenomenal so far this season. He should
be the player of the month. I don't know if
they still do that thing, but he's been awesome.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I mean, I know who's google dominantly. I know who's
not good. That's the easier, easier question. I mean, Cleveland, Tang, tang,
what do you? What do you do with that? Carolina
New England who takes.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
The blame for it? In Cleveland, though, I mean, do
you do you really think I'm gonna take it out?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Someone's like, hey, man, don't you guys wouldn't I don't know.
I've been there in fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
But you're not losing, right, I mean winning just.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Because I picked the steam. That's correct, that's on the bush. Yeah,
on the mush, now you are. That's so that's upsetting you.
I wish, I wish I.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Was that important, that much power to be able to
influence something like that, but unfortunately I do not.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Reason though, Well, the reason is they're just not just
playing well.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
I mean, here's The thing is that it feels like
its struggle for them to score points, Like they hit
a big play and they got called back for a penalty,
and there's Look, there's some questional calls throughout the league
yesterday as I feel like officiating it may be worse
at the NFL level at the moment. I'm not even
sure like going back and look at some things, but
(08:50):
I would say this, they just they struggle to score points.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It is.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
It looks so hard for them to score points, and
they're wide receiver group and the playmakers they have are good. Man,
So I don't know if you just attribute that to
the offense with with ste fancy calling plays and you know,
Alex van Pelt leaving to go to New England even
though they're struggling metally, you know. So I'm not sure
who what you attributed to. But someone's going to take
(09:17):
the fall for this, and I don't know who that is. Like,
can you really fire Stefan just went Coach of the
Year last year.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, and then fired his coordinators, Like well, well.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I don't know have fired. I mean Van Pelt left,
but and he had Swartz last year, So I don't
know what you're talking.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
About on the offensive side, it wasn't it his quarterback
coach and somebody else whenever we talked about it. Van
Pelt took the job in New England, but there was
somebody who could say.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
How they took way part of ways.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
But like I would just look at it this way
and say, it feels like he would be the person
that ultimately would maybe take the blame only because of
the contract situation with Watson, unless something off the field
ends up showing up.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Which you know is all as a possibility at this point.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
Well that now it allows them to move on from
him based on the restructuring this past offseason.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And it's also I just go back to the best
the offense has looked in the last several games, going
back to last year was when Flacco was a quarterback
and was struck again yesterday, and that was after Nick
Chubb went out with the injury, and so they needed
to rely on more of the passing game to get
things done, and Flacco ended up winning Comeback Player of
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the Year. Like and that was this Browns team and
I just I don't know, man, it went in a
totally different direction, didn't they. I mean, and fast, quick,
in a hurry. The decision to not bring Flacco back.
You think that had anything to do with him just
maybe being too good? That it was threatening to Deshaun
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that it was because that one still is confusing to me,
like he had.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
To which I put him in right now. If he
was still there right now, this this, well, I would say, you.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Have a backup that can still play that's there now. Yeah,
So I'm not sure why you wouldn't contemplate that, But
but I think the hard part is is like what
does that ultimately accomplish you? I mean, for contractually speaking,
are you really going to have him there? And and
you've paid them all this money and the only way
out is something off the field that would negate what
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they own and guarantees, So you're you're kind of stuck
there for the most part, unless this other lawsuit comes
to fruition whether there's something more there and he's punished
from that. So if that's the case, like, what what
good does that accomplish?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, it's they feel like they're really up against it.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
I mean, Jonas, do this, look at the roster, look
a look at the backups. You tell me if you
feel like Joe Flacco would have made more sense there.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay, as they can you do that as far as
as far as the Browns go at quarterback or what
are you? What are you getting at?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
What do you? Yeah? I mean that's what we're talking
about your question?
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Okay, So for examples, James James Winston, Yeah, Deshaun Watson,
Dorian Thompson.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Robinson, I mean, did you feel like you fit there?
I mean, that's a great point, you know. Now that
I'm looking at it, I do notice that.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
That they're all the same same color. They're all black.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Oh no, I was going to say that the same
type player like, I mean, Dorian Thomps and Robinson's athletic.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
That just by the way Jonas was playing fiddling with
it as we got to the punchline of it, I
just figure was that which.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
We're bringing breaking down style of play, not style?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So what you're saying is they play.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Kind of a similar a similar brand.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
That was really good to go there.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
All right, I'm not sure what you were getting.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I don't know. One of these things is not like
the other.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Would that quarterback room have been awkward? Do you think
or you think so?
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
No, man, Flaco. Flaco got some he got stripes. Man,
I don't know that that doesn't matter. But his style
of play is not the same as the other guys
in the room.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I mean, you're it's you're changing the offense a little
bit too with some what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I mean, in fairness to massage.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
You know, he ain't doing much anything anything.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You know, the on lines banged up. You know, I
think their center got hurt yesterday. Try to here we go.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Then Harris came in.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Here we go, Like that is a real thing, Like
there we go. He's dealing with some injuries. But I
still don't know that.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
That's every week. Y'all say that every week.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Okay, there's both starting tackles are out and they're centering
one out. Like you got two of five starting offensive
linement and the right guard Zach Zenter is a rookie.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I mean, it's not it's not a real situation. The
Eagles are. They lost too, and they probably would have
won that game if they had.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Both They got their butts kick. That was crazy, But
I think they're a much better team.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
If Djoku's on IR.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
It's like they got they got some guys on the
roster's bang up, but you still have Maury Cooper and
Jerry Judah Judy and Elijah Moore. I mean, such a
tillman's there four. I mean he's fine too. You know,
the backfield's fine. It's it's surprising that they've struggled the
way they haven't. And more so than that, I would say,
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it's gotta be frustrating LeVar when I mean you're holding
teams to like the teams outside of Dallas week one, defensively,
they've been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I mean, how you don't.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Think that's gonna break at some point those guys in
that side of the ball where they start. I mean,
I've been on enough teams and you know you hear
it when guys get frustrated and they start chirping back
and forth. That happens. I feel like this team might
be venturing there.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I was going to ask you that as well, too.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Well, there could be a meltdown in store.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So how does that play out? Happen in New York too,
So how does that play out?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
What's the com Well it comes out in different ways,
like from listen, I don't I don't know how, guys,
how football politics work nowadays? But I just say back
when we played, if there were guys who were getting
frustrated with the other side not playing well, like let's
just say for real, real example sake, the offense stunk
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and the defense kept giving them opportunities and they did
not make good on the opportunities. You know, little things
like you start to see little passive aggressive things like
when the offense is going back onto the field right
the defense like they'll put their hands out to like
give high fives and stuff like that, and defensive players
(15:54):
don't do it.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
They don't do it back.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Every once in a while, you'll get a defensive place
like this is just in game, Like we could get
to the locker room and how that is during the
week and stuff like that. But just in game, you'll
see things like you'll see you'll see a guy maybe
throw his water bottle and grab his helmet and be
like this mother fn offense like you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
So that's like sage two.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
That's I mean, you know.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
You're still being passive aggressive about it, but in the
locker room, like it'll come up. It could come up
out of anything, like a guy could be talking about
from the offense side of the ball could be talking
about his car. In some way, somehow, a defensive dude
will turn how bad they're playing on offense into the
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conversation about him talking about his car. So basically, there's
no conversation that's going to be had that isn't going
to lead to the defensive player telling the offensive guys
how ask how idy you know their play is?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
How bad the offense is?
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Like, there's always gonna be something like you could talk
about I'm going on a date with my girlfriend. They're
going to bring up something about how bad the offense
and how would they bring that up?
Speaker 4 (17:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
They they they like it could be on something like, man,
I hope you you better at dating than you are
at catching the ball, or something like that, you know
what I mean? Like maybe if you focus more on
our plays and and and the scout report, maybe maybe
we win.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know, like if you give them the when you
give them your credit card, somebody pick it off, or.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Like something stupid. You're gonna say something snarky. It's got
to be something. It's got to be connected to any
and everything, because ultimately you want to keep reminding them
that they suck. Like that's you want to keep reminding.
And then last phase. Last phase is you're fighting like
dudes would really fight like that, really fight like that.
(17:50):
Guys will fight over because the offensive players they're not punks,
you know what I mean, So they're not going to
just like it ain't gonna always be like you're gonna
just get away with like, well what you what're saying it?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
You know what I mean? Like, well, what what what
time is it? Then you know what I mean? Like
what you mean? What time is it? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Like, but you know what it is. You know what
time it is? Broa, Like I don't know why you're
talking to them sideways, right, but it just went it
just it just about to get bad for you up
in here and then next thing you know, you know,
lock it up, get you gotta you gotta break them up.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
You got to break them up. You know, some dudes
don't be throwing the jets in there. Okay, that's a
two and two football team that plays all that say
nor'easter there and missed a field goal at the end of.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
W and them defensive dudes is sitting there like that's
all the point yall could give Usain that's that's all
the points you can give us.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Buddy.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
It was going both ways. I don't know how much
you saw with those conditions.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
All I know is if there was one.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Road nixt made, it looked like someone had half open
a Christmas gift and threw it the air.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I get it. But they won. They won, they did
they want.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
All I'm saying is, if I'm the Jets again, I'm
the Jets, and I put I put up. I held
them to this amount of points you're supposed to always win.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Yeah, I know they both held each other to minimum
amount of points.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
But I'm focused on the Jets because they lost. Man,
you feel good about it, don't you.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I mean, I'm not praying for their downfall. I'm just
saying you can see it. Like, I know, we gotta
take a break, but you just well, we'll talk about
it later, man, I know we're probably gonna touch on
it later. But I just I had some observations from
that game. You know how I felt about like how
he looks like like that Aaron Rodgers glare like it
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just that weirdest thing if you make mistakes for one
and not other people.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Just other people make mistakes.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
But then two, it's like, if we're not going to
do any better than this, don't be don't be making
no faces at me like that, man Like, don't be
made can faces that sideline like that, don't be making
faces like guess everybody else but me, Like, don't you
know that could wear thing too. That's why I brought
it up. Wear thing you got, don't look at me,
(20:12):
you got more on that.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Let's not get in there.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
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Speaker 3 (20:31):
Tom Brady on the call, uh oh back in Tampa
probably thrilled did not have to do another Cowboys game,
because that's all he's gotten through his brief broadcasting career
up to this point. But he was on the call
in Tampa Bay yesterday for the dismantling of the Philadelphia
Eagles by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Just game wise, Tampa
(20:53):
Bay looked great, nice bounce back off whatever the hell
that was against Denver, and Philly just looked completely overwhelmed.
They too, were banged up with injuries, but they don't
look like the same team that they were a couple
of years ago and even parts of last year. It
seems like something's off with them. But nonetheless, Tom Brady's
on the call. And this is not long after the
(21:17):
comments came out on the Cosa de Clube podcast Corey
Klueber's podcast, in which Baker Mayfield talked about, you know,
guys being stressed out when he got there and you
know Tom Brady, you know, holding players accountable, etc.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Etc.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
And so there was an opportunity during the broadcast for
Brady to address those comments, and it went like this.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I'd say, quote, they wanted me to come in, be myself,
bring the joy back to football for guys.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's funny because you've made this environment for me very
stressful up here in the boots. So like, I understand
where it's coming from.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Do you feel I was pressed?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Well, I was gonna say I thought stressful was not
having Super Bowl rings. So there was a mindset of
a champion that I took to work every day.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
This wasn't daycare.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
If I wanted to have fun, I was gonna go
to Disneyland with my kids.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
So you know, as you were saying, go ahead, that's
you feel like, I feel like there's more in there
to say.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
There's a way to approach this game. Yeah, and it's
that with the with the right mindset and try to
push each other outside of our comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And great teammates do that. You come in.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
I have someone like Gronkowska, I have someone like Evans.
There's high expectations for us. We got to make sure
we go out there and deliver.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
The competitive juice is still flowing, still in there.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I love no apologies.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
So that was Tom Brady's response to the comments from
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
You know, we talked about this when Baker Mayfield set
his portion of it, and I hear those comments from
Tom and I think the first thing I just say
is he's setting the tone where he's not going to
allow anyone they want to take a shot at him,
to take a shot at him. Now that he's outside
the realm of football where he can't let his play
(23:06):
do the talking for him, now he gets to talk
and he doesn't have to be under the you know,
umbrella of Bill Belichick, who didn't want him to be
the person that he's always been.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
And so now we're getting an idea of what that is.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
A highly competitive individual who strives to be the best
at whatever he's doing. And with that is going to come,
you know, some some pushback. Any times someone makes comments
like that, that's how.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
He's wired, that's how he's geared.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
There's nothing wrong with that, you know, I think this
and it was a lesson for Baker Mayfield in the
sense of and look, I've been through it before and
especially in media, like I don't always say things the
way I'd like to, and I listen back and I'm like, Okay,
could have done this, could have said it this way,
could have you know, positioned it this way.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
But what Baker will will learn is, you know.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
The media always gets the last laugh because they're the
ones that are have the writing, the art last saying
whatever they get last. It's really hard, you know, outside
of just then going on Twitter after you hear something
like that to say something. That's why I'd be shocked
if he even responds to this, because there isn't a response.
This is the goat And you're talking about the difference
in environment between when he was there when you were there,
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and there were some elements of that that maybe there's
some truth to it, like people are walking on eggshells
or people aren't stressful, but whatever the case may be.
But the difference is because you're not Tom Brady, you're
not the greatest of all time. You're not in an
organization where they brought this guy.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
In to win it. That was his whole you know,
he went through the note cards.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
I don't know if you guys watched the game he
had the note cards, wouldn't get to that, like one
of the teams that wasn't really reportedly a team that
was supposedly had a chance of getting him, but he
mentioned it. But he went through all the list of
things in criteria that I think he had seventeen or
eighteen different things he was looking at and why he
chose Tampa. But when he got to Tampa, everyone knew
(24:59):
what the was. That was his goal to go win
a Super Bowl. They did it year one right away.
So of course there's gonna be stress. Of course there's
gonna be everything else that goes along with that because
he's trying to hold everyone else up to the expectation
that he has built because of what he did before
he got there. You know, with Baker's entirely different feel,
you know, he's trying to prove himself. He's trying to
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own over or win over that locker room to get
guys like LeVar to look at him and say like, yeah,
I need you to believe in me. With if Tom
Brady comes on Levar's team, is there any question of
what you.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Believe in Tom LeVar? No?
Speaker 7 (25:33):
No, I mean if Tom looks at the defense says jump,
everyone's gonna jump because he had that, He had that
equity already built up before he got there. With Baker,
everyon's gonna look at him funny, like, what the hell
you talking about? Man, Let's gonna play some football first
before you can figure things out.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Yeah, there was a reason why he jumped out there
like that, because it was unwornant to put himself in
in that way. He doesn't compare to Tom Brady. It
almost makes me feel like the reasoning behind it was
he felt like he needed to say it. And if
if I'm looking at it from the standpoint, Baker Mayfield
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jumped in front of a mac truck because he felt
like he needed to do it. I wonder who was
who was gassing him up in the organization to do so,
because that seems like the type of dude Baker Mayfield is, like,
he's a he's a team guy. He you know, his
guys or his guys or whatever. It could have been
a coach that was feeding that, you know, I don't know,
(26:34):
but it just seems like it was. It didn't come
like it was unsolicited, like it wasn't just that wasn't
just a random shot fired at Tom Brady. And I
just wonder why he saw it fit to put that
out there, you know, that would that would be my
biggest question in all of this was, or would be
(26:58):
why did Baker Mayfield feel it necessary to make that statement,
in particular as it applied to his being in Tampa
Bay knowing that this was an opportunity for him to
kind of rebound from what didn't happen for him in Cleveland.
It just doesn't seem like you would want to kind
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of upset, you know, or disrupt in that way for
if there's really no purpose, would be no reason outside
of if he were doing it, and I can't I
think you kind of touched on a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Q in terms of was he doing this.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
So that he could be accepted, so that it could
be like, oh, he stood up to Tom like we
could follow him, like he's a leader. Whatever it may
have been, something spurned him or something made him put
that put him out, put that out there, or made
him think that he needed to put that out there.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
So Baker Mayfield was asked about this after the game.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
A lot of that got taken out of context. None
of it was personal by any means. It's just, uh,
you know what he demanded of the guys, and that's
that's the aura of Tom Brady, and that's what he
did to bring a championship here. And so nothing personal.
But yeah, talking before the game, he's obviously happy for me,
and he knows the guys, so he knows how much
(28:18):
I enjoyed throwing to Mike and Chris because he got
to do the same. And so it's fun to be
able to, you know, talk about the same experiences with
the guy like that.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
So here's what I wonder when Brady makes those comments
that he does during the broadcast yesterday, were those comments
directed at Baker Mayfield or.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Maybe somebody else? I think I don't think said it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I know, but he's saying it from the words of
somebody else who was there when Tom Brady was there.
And I wonder if that was Brady chirping back at
whoever went to Baker Mayfield and said, we were really
stressed out and there was this, this, and this and
all this other stuff that was going on. So I
wonder how how much of that was really aimed towards
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Baker or maybe that.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Mean but it could have been like a GM, it
could have been a scout, it could it could have
been anyone who said it. But I think that whoever
had this conversation or multiple conversations with Baker Mayfield, it
made Baker Mayfield feel.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
As though he needed to address it. And that is
a personal like.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
I don't understand how sometimes people say things like that's
not sensible, that is I think.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
I think the only thing that you know, when you
say it gets taken out of context. It's like, well,
all right, let's go back and listen, because this has
happened to me.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Man.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
I mean to this day, people would be like, hey man,
you weren't high on CJ. Straut, I go, what are
you talking about? And like we said something before the draft,
and this is how you know, people just don't listen,
they don't read, they don't ever look at anything and
look at it.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I said, what do you mean?
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Because because I said that he had skipped in the
Manning academy and told what I was told by a
very reliable source, that's all I said. I said, I
thought he was gonn I go number two in the draft,
right behind Bryce Young. I said, the kid was amazing
during his entire career and dealing with him in Ohio
State and everything else.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
But people don't listen to stuff.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
So in this case, you know, we get the clip
of what Baker Mayfield had said. We don't know what
the question was coming off of that, with the conversation
was coming off of that. I mean, I just echoed
the sentiment of when Peyton Manning was in Denver and
I was in Kansas City talked to some guys that
played for the Broncos and they talked about the difference
of what it was like with Peyton. Because I was curious,
(30:30):
I was like, what's he like? You know, what kind
of stuff does he do? Or you know, how how's
the environment different? Like what a Meeting's like, I was curious,
could have signed back there. In a lot of ways,
that was probably one of the biggest mistakes I made
my professional career was not signing back in Denver to
just see how Peyton Manning operated, see how he did things.
You know, I never had that opportunity to learn from
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someone like that, and then especially like an all time
you know, Hall of Fame are all time great. So,
you know, the hard thing is, I don't know what
the entire conversation was before he made those comments. You know,
is there some truth to the environment being more stressful
with Tom? They're probably yeah, But that's what comes again
with a guy who would won six Super Bowls at
that point, a guy who'd already been determined and considered
(31:13):
the greatest of all time. And look at the run
that they had during those two decades. So look, he
made a mistake in the way he went about presenting it.
I've been there, I've done that. Surely, not gonna condemn
someone for something like this. I'm sure he'll learn from it.
But more than anything else, to your initial question, Jonas,
I said, it's a tone setting comment, tone setting for everyone,
(31:35):
Like it doesn't matter if it was Baker's comments or
someone within the organization. I think Tom Brady sitting in
the tone like, okay, you you want to say something, Okay,
I'm gonna go on national television and because I'm gonna
have time to prepare what i want to say on
how I want to say it, and I'm gonna throw
an absolute overhand right like Mike Tyson and his Heyday,
(31:55):
and I'm gonna knock you out, and I'm gonna knock
out the next person, the next person. So if that's
what you want to step too, good luck, because I'll
have the time and platform. I mean, notice how KB
teed him up again for an on camera shot. You
have more like that's that's what like, Just so people
understand how games work. You don't come on camera as
(32:19):
an analyst and a play by play unless it's the
open out, a halftime, end of the game, or there's
a break where it warrants that that wasn't really like
a break. That was them interjecting what Tom wanted to
say at that moment to make sure his message was
sent very clear to everybody out there listening, knowing that
(32:42):
this would get picked up and this will get discussed
so it's not just Tom even too setting the tone.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
This is Fox Sports, this is you know.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
KB and everyone else behind the scenes, who's who's producing.
Like they're all saying like, all right, you want to
take shots at our guy, like we're gonna provide him
every opportunity to go one hundred on your ass.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I was underestimating how much he would address it. I
thought maybe he'd make like a swipe or some sort
of comment like, you know, I just hope they're not
as stressed out or something along those lines. But the
fact that he was teed up there was a presentation.
I was like, well, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
You could hear it in his voice and see it
like pissed. Oh yeah, you can see it.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And by the way, the other part of that too,
is like when he got to dude, it was in
the middle of COVID, like like there's all sorts.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Of practice practicing up parks. He was getting kicked out
like he was he was knocking on doors trying to
find playbooks.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Like everybody was stressed. It wasn't just Tom Brady, everybody
like Byron Left, which is like next door neighbor. That's
a great point. The whole world was like stressed out.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Everybody was like underwater and just overwhelmed with what was
going on. Like of course every like it was a
stressful time for everybody. We didn't know if a season
was gonna happen. We didn't know who was going to play,
wasn't gonna play, who was opting out?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
And so Tom didn't care about the virus. Bro He
was like, I'm on a mission.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Like all you cats out there who are worried massive
whatever he is, I don't care. I'm gonna go out
there and ball, like you can do whatever you want
to do. I'm prepared to go win a super Bowl.
And that dude did dur through a pandemic. Yeah, I don't.
I mean we joke about the NBA and the Bubble
Boy Championship and all that. There's somebody be said for,
you know, enduring like the Lakers did that year to
(34:27):
be able to win it. I mean, everyone's under the
same conditions and they found a way of winning. But
you look at Tom Brady in that instance, it's like
all those stories and I got some boys in Tampa
two who are like, man, that guy is on a mission,
but he's not. He's not trying to play around with
anything like it's it's all about going there improving it.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And he did. Man, it was incredible.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
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Speaker 6 (34:59):
Margaret, that's your new girl Lee.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks with you.
Yeah a Brady. During the break, Veto noticed that leaves
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Speaker 4 (35:26):
Her name is Margaret. Yeah. It's not, uh, that is funny.
Speaker 9 (35:32):
It's not like family or like it's literally the picture
of a drink.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
It's it's not like you love Margarita's that much, do
you No?
Speaker 10 (35:40):
It's uh, it's me on vacation in Mikinos Grease and
a very beautiful location and I have these awesome I
have this nice drink in front of me. I'm enjoying
it very much and it takes me to my vacation.
It's a nice spot, my green space.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I almost got arrested or kicked out at the airport
on my way out. I forgot to tell y'all this story.
So I'm going through the metal detector machine or whatever
where you stick your hands up over your head and
stuff like that. It takes scan you or whatever come out,
and the lady's standing there, and then the other TSA
(36:17):
dude is over there and he's on his knees like
I think he had just got done. Pat and a
dude down on like his legs and stuff like that. Right,
So I turn and look at the monitor, and for
some reason, my crotch always flags. I don't know why,
but it always like comes up on the monitors and
they'd be like, they.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Gotta rupt me down right, So do you say thank you? Wow?
So this time, in particular, Q, the dude is on
his knees. I look at it. I'm so used to
doing that. I'm like, you know, just go kind the way.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Creep pause right there for a second, all right, every time,
because I'm with you, like I've had those issues too.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Now.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
I just go through the metal detector. But when I
go through the one that you like spins around you. Yes,
that one the same thing, And I'm like, I don't
know why, but they always ask for a guy, and
I'm like, well, maybe I'd be more comfortable with a
woman doing Why don't I get the choice.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I'm not going to be patted down here. Never a
woman doing it.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Always a guy that just rubs you up and down,
like up and down, like does that hurt?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Like up and down? Are you sensitive? Like what? Anyway?
Speaker 6 (37:26):
So I light up like my thig lights up on
on the X.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Rack for sheet.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
He's on his knees, and I was like, well, you
might as well handle that while you're down.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
No, No, I think nothing of it because I'm so
used to it.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I'm so used to it going off.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
I was just like, I was like, I know you're
the one that has to do it, and that's the
area you're going to be in, so you should just
go ahead and handle it while you're down.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
In my bad my man stood up so quick. It
was like, whoa sir? Whoa sir? Sir? Sir?
Speaker 6 (38:08):
I was like, whoa bud? He was like, no, you
let you whoa buddy? You let me explain something to you.
I explained to you the rules and what has to
happen and what I need to do. And the only
thing that saved me, I think the only thing that
saved that from escalating is there was another TSA. I
go through there often the other TSA dude recognize me
(38:30):
and he and the dude kind of loosened up a
little bit, which I wasn't trying to be funny. I
was just like trying to get through security. But after
I thought about it, when I said it, I was like, O,
s I messed this one up. He jumped up, bro,
and he was taller than me too. He jumped up
in my face and was like sir, sir. I was like, listen,
(38:54):
I was just looking at the He was like, please
stop talking, like he ain't want me to talk nothing.
So I just I stopped and let him explain the
whole spiel and this, that and the other, and then
he rubbed me up and down and then I got
up out of there, but I almost got I almost
got caught up, and I almost got caught up.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Oh I got it.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
There you go, there you go. That's one to use
for the ages, because I tell you what, he caught
me up and down.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Man.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
I told him go ahead and handle it while he
was down there, man, But I ain't mean it that way.
I knew he was going to go down there anyway,
you know what I mean. Yeah, he stood up. Though
he didn't do it on his knees, he stood up
and did it.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
So you're probably gonna see him again this weekend.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I might, I might be flat.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
I might try to really make sure I could get
out of get out of state college. I might have
made things a little awkward in Harrisburg. Man shouts out,
Harrisburg t s a shouts out to thank you for
being kind to me and not popping off on me
and taking that the wrong way.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Oh, but I forgot to tell you that story.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah that's a good one. Yeah, two pros and a
cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up,
we are going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers
that'll be yours here. On a Monday morning, we had
mentioned and talked about the Deshaun Watson and Brown's fiasco
and whatever the hell that was, and the injuries and
all that stuff, and you know, just not playing well whatsoever.
(40:29):
I'll say this in the same division, and we haven't
a chance to really get into this yet. I know
they lost yesterday, but without Justin Fields, Pittsburgh isn't close
in that game. Like I thought he was really really
good yesterday and came to date. I mean, and it
gets better every week, Like he just progresses and gets
(40:50):
better every week. But he was fantastic, especially in the
second half.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I thought in that.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Game he was fantastic. I mean, he's gotten better and better,
and I think it's going to the point now where
if you or Mike Tomlin, you know, maybe you know,
you want to make the announcement that he's just gonna
be the guy that's who we're rolling with the rest
of the year.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
It would make sense coming off.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
This game, despite the fact that it is a loss.
I think the other crazy thing about this game was
on the other side of the of the situation where
Anthony Richardson again gets hurt, can't finish the game, Flacco
comes in and similar to last year with Gardner Minshew,
he's able to deliver.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
I mean, I think what first play in throws a
touchdown pass.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
But the general point with that quarterback situation in Indy
is in order for Anthony Richardson to be the player
he's capable of being because he has such a dynamic
runner and he's also you know, can play from the pocket,
you got to have both, and the problem is is
if he's going to be injury ridden, it's gonna be
really tough for them not to have a guy like
(41:48):
Joe Flacco or Minshew last year is someone who can
be the starter who's gonna have to come in and
win them some games. And that's what Flacco did yesterday.
But that's the truth in the matter of when you
draft Anthony Richardson in the way his careers go on
so far, he just cannot stay healthy despite that he's
an absolute adnis out there on the field.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
I thought it was an interesting game because it was
so much defense involved, and yet the Colts came out
on top. I think that was a sobering moment for
a lot of people on that that that Pittsburgh Steelers team.
(42:28):
I think they have to figure out how they can
be a little bit more sooner in games than what
they were in this last game.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
You can't. I mean, sometimes offense comes when it comes,
I get it.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
But this kind of goes back to that conversation we
had earlier in the show in the first hour, in
terms of when the defenses is out there and they're
trying to give the offense as many opportunities as they
can give them, and you do for somewhat of you know,
some parts, some portions of the game.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
I mean, they did give up some points.
Speaker 6 (43:05):
But you would have thought that maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers
offense would have gotten going a lot sooner than what
it did.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
But maybe it's a catalyst. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
Maybe it was a catalyst for them moving forward to
try to start faster. Not sure, but that probably needed
to be a wake up call for the Steelers team.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Cowboys Stealers. Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
It's gonna be a big game, man, because both two teams,
like now, all of a sudden, the Steelers are looking
at a situation where they don't want to get too
far off track, and you definitely don't want to open
up the door to the quarterback conversation or controversy, whatever
people want to label it as. You don't want that
to grow any momentum. You know, a loss against the Cowboys,
(43:54):
too straight losses a drop could create a very very
intense conversation about what's going on at.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
The quarterbacks position.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
And clearly we all know why the Dallas Cowboys need
to win, so
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This time zone again, Uh, what is it? Nine am
Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific? Yeah, yeah, three am Hawaii.
You know, got to give a good love morning Superman.
What time is it in Bangladesh? Oh, I don't know,
probably afternoon drive. I would assume we're big time man
global on the app.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
What up ripped my shirt off?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Men?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Oh okay, I bet a little caught up.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
In the spirit, didn't you.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
Yeah, I mean I got Mark over there changing his
pick before he was so, you know, concerned about the
UCF fans, the fact that he was, you know, not
picking them.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But oh way, did he break the desk? Did I
see it when he jumped on the desk it looked
like it was falling apart afterwards?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Well, that is an interesting question.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
The desk itself, obviously has made so it can be
rather disassembled quickly and moved.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Every week we're in a different spot.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
So the question of whether or not he broke it,
I don't think he broke it. I do think that
there's parts of it that could be broken, but the
entire desk I don't think it's broken.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So yeah, he was. He was very fire physical.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
No, he just jumped on it and then then it
wasn't It wasn't created or made to carry weight.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It's there to look good, is essentially what it's there for.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, that was it was fun to watch. You know,
it's fun being in state college. Yeah, uh, you know,
good good people all the way through.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Fun experience lead to laugh and I gotta go on
the field before the Penn State Illinois game.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Will walk around a little bit, lead to that met
Jack Ham, doug he met the Ham Damn yeah, damn yeah.
Jonas didn't want to go to practice its cue.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I didn't. That's that's not surprising to me, though.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
Again, I just the more of a round Jonas outside
of this show, the more I just I don't understand him.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I just you know, I didn't want to go. Just
as simple as that. Nothing nothing deeper than that.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
He would have got to get up and you know,
up close with the players. He would have been able
to meet the coach, you know, coaches, you know, chat
it up with legends.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It's like, I don't want to go.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, I just want to cruise around, go see the city.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
That's what he did, and would rather go buy a map,
tour as a map, and go walk around.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I got some good brochures. What do we say? We circled.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I had the Uber drivers circle to block on him
so that I could call him a weirdo.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
When we were driving by.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
On the street, I'm just kind of walking along and
I just see some cargo weirdo and I look like, damn.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
You threw your hand up and made some type of emotion.
I don't know. I might have been a bird, a bird.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I'm not sure that nothing in that city, Okay not,
I wouldn't dare, But no, man, what a great town,
favorite airport of all time, state college, the best there.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Is nobody there. Nobody say it is tiny. You could
do cartwheels through that, but the way through it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You're just in and out. But it was a fun ride,
fun time. And I would say a lot more fun
than what the Buffalo Bills got to encounter last night,
Because at what point do you think the Bills realized
and maybe Bills fans realized, Oh, we're just gonna get
our ass beat tonight, like like that's how this.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Is gonna go. Ravens are dangerous.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
Can I pose this question, who is good in the NFL?
Is it just Kansas City? Because because even if they
don't win games, it doesn't make you feel like they
win them convincedly they.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Don't, but they got a history of doing it. That's
the only thing I say is they know how to
win games. And that's why I say I'm not I'm
not concerned with them winning games the way that they're
winning them. As long as they're winning them, that's what
I would say. But a team that's definitively good, I don't.
(05:20):
I don't think there there is one.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, I would say, man, I think Minnesota is good.
They look good, But is that fool's gold? They're good
right now?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
You know.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
The worst part is to your question of is that
fool's gold? Is how many people are out there right
now going, yeah, this is awesome, man, Sam Darnold MVP
through the month of September.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But there's gonna be.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
That game or that streak of stuff where he turns
into like people. And I've talked to people about this
who have like been said, yeah, but don't you think.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
He's gonna I'm like, yeah, That's the hard part is
in our mind, like.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
We have this first impression built up of what Sam
Donald is gonna be, that he's just gonna fall off
at some point, throw a bunch of picks and turn
into whatever you thought he was with the New York Jets,
whatever you thought he was the Carolina Panthers. Like that's
that's our that's how like human brains work. And now
you look at it and go now, he's playing unbelievable football.
(06:21):
That he's gonna have bad games. Of course, he had
a bad game here and there.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But the way he's playing.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Right now, when when I go through and watches his tape,
it's incredible. It reminds me of like all the good
things that we used to talk about back when he
was a Southern Cow and he was leading that team,
which I don't think people had such like an understanding
of where Southern Cow was at that point, because you know,
I think they won the Pac twelve the one year
(06:48):
he was there, that he led to a Rose Bowl
that year in one of those two years that those
are not good teams. It was Sam Donald. He had
some wide receivers. That was pretty much it.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It was not.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
It was very similar to some of the Southern Cal
teams we saw, even when Lincoln Riley first got there,
and it was like, man, it's just Caleb Williams and
a few guys in the outside and that's all I
told this thing together. It was the same way back
then Diversus with Clay Hillman. But you know, we never
really gave Sam Donald the benefit of doubt because he
struggled in New York and then now he comes around
(07:20):
and finds a great opportunity, and I think everyone keeps
waiting for that moment, but I don't think it's coming.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Man.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
And he's played phenomenal so far this season. He should
be the player of the month. I don't know if
they still do that thing, but he's been awesome.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I mean, I know who's google dominantly. I know who's
not good. That's the easier, easier question. I mean, Cleveland, Tang, tang,
what do you? What do you do with that? Carolina
New England who takes.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
The blame for it? In Cleveland, though, I mean, do
you do you really think I'm gonna take it out?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Someone's like, hey, man, don't you guys wouldn't I don't know.
I've been there in fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
But you're not losing, right, I mean winning just.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Because I picked the steam. That's correct, that's on the bush. Yeah,
on the mush, now you are. That's so that's upsetting you.
I wish, I wish I.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Was that important, that much power to be able to
influence something like that, but unfortunately I do not.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Reason though, Well, the reason is they're just not just
playing well.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
I mean, here's The thing is that it feels like
its struggle for them to score points, Like they hit
a big play and they got called back for a penalty,
and there's Look, there's some questional calls throughout the league
yesterday as I feel like officiating it may be worse
at the NFL level at the moment. I'm not even
sure like going back and look at some things, but
(08:50):
I would say this, they just they struggle to score points.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It is.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
It looks so hard for them to score points, and
they're wide receiver group and the playmakers they have are good. Man,
So I don't know if you just attribute that to
the offense with with ste fancy calling plays and you know,
Alex van Pelt leaving to go to New England even
though they're struggling metally, you know. So I'm not sure
who what you attributed to. But someone's going to take
(09:17):
the fall for this, and I don't know who that is. Like,
can you really fire Stefan just went Coach of the
Year last year.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, and then fired his coordinators, Like well, well.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I don't know have fired. I mean Van Pelt left,
but and he had Swartz last year, So I don't
know what you're talking.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
About on the offensive side, it wasn't it his quarterback
coach and somebody else whenever we talked about it. Van
Pelt took the job in New England, but there was
somebody who could say.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
How they took way part of ways.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
But like I would just look at it this way
and say, it feels like he would be the person
that ultimately would maybe take the blame only because of
the contract situation with Watson, unless something off the field
ends up showing up.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Which you know is all as a possibility at this point.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
Well that now it allows them to move on from
him based on the restructuring this past offseason.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And it's also I just go back to the best
the offense has looked in the last several games, going
back to last year was when Flacco was a quarterback
and was struck again yesterday, and that was after Nick
Chubb went out with the injury, and so they needed
to rely on more of the passing game to get
things done, and Flacco ended up winning Comeback Player of
(10:28):
the Year. Like and that was this Browns team and
I just I don't know, man, it went in a
totally different direction, didn't they. I mean, and fast, quick,
in a hurry. The decision to not bring Flacco back.
You think that had anything to do with him just
maybe being too good? That it was threatening to Deshaun
(10:52):
that it was because that one still is confusing to me,
like he had.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
To which I put him in right now. If he
was still there right now, this this, well, I would say, you.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Have a backup that can still play that's there now. Yeah,
So I'm not sure why you wouldn't contemplate that, But
but I think the hard part is is like what
does that ultimately accomplish you? I mean, for contractually speaking,
are you really going to have him there? And and
you've paid them all this money and the only way
out is something off the field that would negate what
(11:25):
they own and guarantees, So you're you're kind of stuck
there for the most part, unless this other lawsuit comes
to fruition whether there's something more there and he's punished
from that. So if that's the case, like, what what
good does that accomplish?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, it's they feel like they're really up against it.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
I mean, Jonas, do this, look at the roster, look
a look at the backups. You tell me if you
feel like Joe Flacco would have made more sense there.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay, as they can you do that as far as
as far as the Browns go at quarterback or what
are you? What are you getting at?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
What do you? Yeah? I mean that's what we're talking
about your question?
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Okay, So for examples, James James Winston, Yeah, Deshaun Watson,
Dorian Thompson.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Robinson, I mean, did you feel like you fit there?
I mean, that's a great point, you know. Now that
I'm looking at it, I do notice that.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
That they're all the same same color. They're all black.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Oh no, I was going to say that the same
type player like, I mean, Dorian Thomps and Robinson's athletic.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
That just by the way Jonas was playing fiddling with
it as we got to the punchline of it, I
just figure was that which.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
We're bringing breaking down style of play, not style?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So what you're saying is they play.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Kind of a similar a similar brand.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
That was really good to go there.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
All right, I'm not sure what you were getting.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I don't know. One of these things is not like
the other.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Would that quarterback room have been awkward? Do you think
or you think so?
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
No, man, Flaco. Flaco got some he got stripes. Man,
I don't know that that doesn't matter. But his style
of play is not the same as the other guys
in the room.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I mean, you're it's you're changing the offense a little
bit too with some what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I mean, in fairness to massage.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
You know, he ain't doing much anything anything.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You know, the on lines banged up. You know, I
think their center got hurt yesterday. Try to here we go.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Then Harris came in.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Here we go, Like that is a real thing, Like
there we go. He's dealing with some injuries. But I
still don't know that.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
That's every week. Y'all say that every week.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Okay, there's both starting tackles are out and they're centering
one out. Like you got two of five starting offensive
linement and the right guard Zach Zenter is a rookie.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I mean, it's not it's not a real situation. The
Eagles are. They lost too, and they probably would have
won that game if they had.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Both They got their butts kick. That was crazy, But
I think they're a much better team.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
If Djoku's on IR.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
It's like they got they got some guys on the
roster's bang up, but you still have Maury Cooper and
Jerry Judah Judy and Elijah Moore. I mean, such a
tillman's there four. I mean he's fine too. You know,
the backfield's fine. It's it's surprising that they've struggled the
way they haven't. And more so than that, I would say,
(14:31):
it's gotta be frustrating LeVar when I mean you're holding
teams to like the teams outside of Dallas week one, defensively,
they've been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I mean, how you don't.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Think that's gonna break at some point those guys in
that side of the ball where they start. I mean,
I've been on enough teams and you know you hear
it when guys get frustrated and they start chirping back
and forth. That happens. I feel like this team might
be venturing there.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I was going to ask you that as well, too.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Well, there could be a meltdown in store.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So how does that play out? Happen in New York too,
So how does that play out?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
What's the com Well it comes out in different ways,
like from listen, I don't I don't know how, guys,
how football politics work nowadays? But I just say back
when we played, if there were guys who were getting
frustrated with the other side not playing well, like let's
just say for real, real example sake, the offense stunk
(15:32):
and the defense kept giving them opportunities and they did
not make good on the opportunities. You know, little things
like you start to see little passive aggressive things like
when the offense is going back onto the field right
the defense like they'll put their hands out to like
give high fives and stuff like that, and defensive players
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don't do it.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
They don't do it back.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Every once in a while, you'll get a defensive place
like this is just in game, Like we could get
to the locker room and how that is during the
week and stuff like that. But just in game, you'll
see things like you'll see you'll see a guy maybe
throw his water bottle and grab his helmet and be
like this mother fn offense like you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
So that's like sage two.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
That's I mean, you know.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
You're still being passive aggressive about it, but in the
locker room, like it'll come up. It could come up
out of anything, like a guy could be talking about
from the offense side of the ball could be talking
about his car. In some way, somehow, a defensive dude
will turn how bad they're playing on offense into the
(16:42):
conversation about him talking about his car. So basically, there's
no conversation that's going to be had that isn't going
to lead to the defensive player telling the offensive guys
how ask how idy you know their play is?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
How bad the offense is?
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Like, there's always gonna be something like you could talk
about I'm going on a date with my girlfriend. They're
going to bring up something about how bad the offense
and how would they bring that up?
Speaker 4 (17:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
They they they like it could be on something like, man,
I hope you you better at dating than you are
at catching the ball, or something like that, you know
what I mean? Like maybe if you focus more on
our plays and and and the scout report, maybe maybe
we win.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know, like if you give them the when you
give them your credit card, somebody pick it off, or.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Like something stupid. You're gonna say something snarky. It's got
to be something. It's got to be connected to any
and everything, because ultimately you want to keep reminding them
that they suck. Like that's you want to keep reminding.
And then last phase. Last phase is you're fighting like
dudes would really fight like that, really fight like that.
(17:50):
Guys will fight over because the offensive players they're not punks,
you know what I mean, So they're not going to
just like it ain't gonna always be like you're gonna
just get away with like, well what you what're saying it?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
You know what I mean? Like, well, what what what
time is it? Then you know what I mean? Like
what you mean? What time is it? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Like, but you know what it is. You know what
time it is? Broa, Like I don't know why you're
talking to them sideways, right, but it just went it
just it just about to get bad for you up
in here and then next thing you know, you know,
lock it up, get you gotta you gotta break them up.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
You got to break them up. You know, some dudes
don't be throwing the jets in there. Okay, that's a
two and two football team that plays all that say
nor'easter there and missed a field goal at the end of.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
W and them defensive dudes is sitting there like that's
all the point yall could give Usain that's that's all
the points you can give us.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Buddy.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
It was going both ways. I don't know how much
you saw with those conditions.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
All I know is if there was one.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Road nixt made, it looked like someone had half open
a Christmas gift and threw it the air.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I get it. But they won. They won, they did
they want.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
All I'm saying is, if I'm the Jets again, I'm
the Jets, and I put I put up. I held
them to this amount of points you're supposed to always win.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Yeah, I know they both held each other to minimum
amount of points.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
But I'm focused on the Jets because they lost. Man,
you feel good about it, don't you.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I mean, I'm not praying for their downfall. I'm just
saying you can see it. Like, I know, we gotta
take a break, but you just well, we'll talk about
it later, man, I know we're probably gonna touch on
it later. But I just I had some observations from
that game. You know how I felt about like how
he looks like like that Aaron Rodgers glare like it
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just that weirdest thing if you make mistakes for one
and not other people.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Just other people make mistakes.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
But then two, it's like, if we're not going to
do any better than this, don't be don't be making
no faces at me like that, man Like, don't be
made can faces that sideline like that, don't be making
faces like guess everybody else but me, Like, don't you
know that could wear thing too. That's why I brought
it up. Wear thing you got, don't look at me,
(20:12):
you got more on that.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Let's not get in there.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
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Speaker 3 (20:31):
Tom Brady on the call, uh oh back in Tampa
probably thrilled did not have to do another Cowboys game,
because that's all he's gotten through his brief broadcasting career
up to this point. But he was on the call
in Tampa Bay yesterday for the dismantling of the Philadelphia
Eagles by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Just game wise, Tampa
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Bay looked great, nice bounce back off whatever the hell
that was against Denver, and Philly just looked completely overwhelmed.
They too, were banged up with injuries, but they don't
look like the same team that they were a couple
of years ago and even parts of last year. It
seems like something's off with them. But nonetheless, Tom Brady's
on the call. And this is not long after the
(21:17):
comments came out on the Cosa de Clube podcast Corey
Klueber's podcast, in which Baker Mayfield talked about, you know,
guys being stressed out when he got there and you
know Tom Brady, you know, holding players accountable, etc.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Etc.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
And so there was an opportunity during the broadcast for
Brady to address those comments, and it went like this.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I'd say, quote, they wanted me to come in, be myself,
bring the joy back to football for guys.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's funny because you've made this environment for me very
stressful up here in the boots. So like, I understand
where it's coming from.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Do you feel I was pressed?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Well, I was gonna say I thought stressful was not
having Super Bowl rings. So there was a mindset of
a champion that I took to work every day.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
This wasn't daycare.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
If I wanted to have fun, I was gonna go
to Disneyland with my kids.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
So you know, as you were saying, go ahead, that's
you feel like, I feel like there's more in there
to say.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
There's a way to approach this game. Yeah, and it's
that with the with the right mindset and try to
push each other outside of our comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And great teammates do that. You come in.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
I have someone like Gronkowska, I have someone like Evans.
There's high expectations for us. We got to make sure
we go out there and deliver.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
The competitive juice is still flowing, still in there.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I love no apologies.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
So that was Tom Brady's response to the comments from
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
You know, we talked about this when Baker Mayfield set
his portion of it, and I hear those comments from
Tom and I think the first thing I just say
is he's setting the tone where he's not going to
allow anyone they want to take a shot at him,
to take a shot at him. Now that he's outside
the realm of football where he can't let his play
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do the talking for him, now he gets to talk
and he doesn't have to be under the you know,
umbrella of Bill Belichick, who didn't want him to be
the person that he's always been.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
And so now we're getting an idea of what that is.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
A highly competitive individual who strives to be the best
at whatever he's doing. And with that is going to come,
you know, some some pushback. Any times someone makes comments
like that, that's how.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
He's wired, that's how he's geared.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
There's nothing wrong with that, you know, I think this
and it was a lesson for Baker Mayfield in the
sense of and look, I've been through it before and
especially in media, like I don't always say things the
way I'd like to, and I listen back and I'm like, Okay,
could have done this, could have said it this way,
could have you know, positioned it this way.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
But what Baker will will learn is, you know.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
The media always gets the last laugh because they're the
ones that are have the writing, the art last saying
whatever they get last. It's really hard, you know, outside
of just then going on Twitter after you hear something
like that to say something. That's why I'd be shocked
if he even responds to this, because there isn't a response.
This is the goat And you're talking about the difference
in environment between when he was there when you were there,
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and there were some elements of that that maybe there's
some truth to it, like people are walking on eggshells
or people aren't stressful, but whatever the case may be.
But the difference is because you're not Tom Brady, you're
not the greatest of all time. You're not in an
organization where they brought this guy.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
In to win it. That was his whole you know,
he went through the note cards.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
I don't know if you guys watched the game he
had the note cards, wouldn't get to that, like one
of the teams that wasn't really reportedly a team that
was supposedly had a chance of getting him, but he
mentioned it. But he went through all the list of
things in criteria that I think he had seventeen or
eighteen different things he was looking at and why he
chose Tampa. But when he got to Tampa, everyone knew
(24:59):
what the was. That was his goal to go win
a Super Bowl. They did it year one right away.
So of course there's gonna be stress. Of course there's
gonna be everything else that goes along with that because
he's trying to hold everyone else up to the expectation
that he has built because of what he did before
he got there. You know, with Baker's entirely different feel,
you know, he's trying to prove himself. He's trying to
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own over or win over that locker room to get
guys like LeVar to look at him and say like, yeah,
I need you to believe in me. With if Tom
Brady comes on Levar's team, is there any question of
what you.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Believe in Tom LeVar? No?
Speaker 7 (25:33):
No, I mean if Tom looks at the defense says jump,
everyone's gonna jump because he had that, He had that
equity already built up before he got there. With Baker,
everyon's gonna look at him funny, like, what the hell
you talking about? Man, Let's gonna play some football first
before you can figure things out.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Yeah, there was a reason why he jumped out there
like that, because it was unwornant to put himself in
in that way. He doesn't compare to Tom Brady. It
almost makes me feel like the reasoning behind it was
he felt like he needed to say it. And if
if I'm looking at it from the standpoint, Baker Mayfield
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jumped in front of a mac truck because he felt
like he needed to do it. I wonder who was
who was gassing him up in the organization to do so,
because that seems like the type of dude Baker Mayfield is, like,
he's a he's a team guy. He you know, his
guys or his guys or whatever. It could have been
a coach that was feeding that, you know, I don't know,
(26:34):
but it just seems like it was. It didn't come
like it was unsolicited, like it wasn't just that wasn't
just a random shot fired at Tom Brady. And I
just wonder why he saw it fit to put that
out there, you know, that would that would be my
biggest question in all of this was, or would be
(26:58):
why did Baker Mayfield feel it necessary to make that statement,
in particular as it applied to his being in Tampa
Bay knowing that this was an opportunity for him to
kind of rebound from what didn't happen for him in Cleveland.
It just doesn't seem like you would want to kind
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of upset, you know, or disrupt in that way for
if there's really no purpose, would be no reason outside
of if he were doing it, and I can't I
think you kind of touched on a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Q in terms of was he doing this.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
So that he could be accepted, so that it could
be like, oh, he stood up to Tom like we
could follow him, like he's a leader. Whatever it may
have been, something spurned him or something made him put
that put him out, put that out there, or made
him think that he needed to put that out there.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
So Baker Mayfield was asked about this after the game.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
A lot of that got taken out of context. None
of it was personal by any means. It's just, uh,
you know what he demanded of the guys, and that's
that's the aura of Tom Brady, and that's what he
did to bring a championship here. And so nothing personal.
But yeah, talking before the game, he's obviously happy for me,
and he knows the guys, so he knows how much
(28:18):
I enjoyed throwing to Mike and Chris because he got
to do the same. And so it's fun to be
able to, you know, talk about the same experiences with
the guy like that.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
So here's what I wonder when Brady makes those comments
that he does during the broadcast yesterday, were those comments
directed at Baker Mayfield or.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Maybe somebody else? I think I don't think said it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I know, but he's saying it from the words of
somebody else who was there when Tom Brady was there.
And I wonder if that was Brady chirping back at
whoever went to Baker Mayfield and said, we were really
stressed out and there was this, this, and this and
all this other stuff that was going on. So I
wonder how how much of that was really aimed towards
(29:01):
Baker or maybe that.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Mean but it could have been like a GM, it
could have been a scout, it could it could have
been anyone who said it. But I think that whoever
had this conversation or multiple conversations with Baker Mayfield, it
made Baker Mayfield feel.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
As though he needed to address it. And that is
a personal like.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
I don't understand how sometimes people say things like that's
not sensible, that is I think.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
I think the only thing that you know, when you
say it gets taken out of context. It's like, well,
all right, let's go back and listen, because this has
happened to me.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Man.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
I mean to this day, people would be like, hey man,
you weren't high on CJ. Straut, I go, what are
you talking about? And like we said something before the draft,
and this is how you know, people just don't listen,
they don't read, they don't ever look at anything and
look at it.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I said, what do you mean?
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Because because I said that he had skipped in the
Manning academy and told what I was told by a
very reliable source, that's all I said. I said, I
thought he was gonn I go number two in the draft,
right behind Bryce Young. I said, the kid was amazing
during his entire career and dealing with him in Ohio
State and everything else.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
But people don't listen to stuff.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
So in this case, you know, we get the clip
of what Baker Mayfield had said. We don't know what
the question was coming off of that, with the conversation
was coming off of that. I mean, I just echoed
the sentiment of when Peyton Manning was in Denver and
I was in Kansas City talked to some guys that
played for the Broncos and they talked about the difference
of what it was like with Peyton. Because I was curious,
(30:30):
I was like, what's he like? You know, what kind
of stuff does he do? Or you know, how how's
the environment different? Like what a Meeting's like, I was curious,
could have signed back there. In a lot of ways,
that was probably one of the biggest mistakes I made
my professional career was not signing back in Denver to
just see how Peyton Manning operated, see how he did things.
You know, I never had that opportunity to learn from
(30:51):
someone like that, and then especially like an all time
you know, Hall of Fame are all time great. So,
you know, the hard thing is, I don't know what
the entire conversation was before he made those comments. You know,
is there some truth to the environment being more stressful
with Tom? They're probably yeah, But that's what comes again
with a guy who would won six Super Bowls at
that point, a guy who'd already been determined and considered
(31:13):
the greatest of all time. And look at the run
that they had during those two decades. So look, he
made a mistake in the way he went about presenting it.
I've been there, I've done that. Surely, not gonna condemn
someone for something like this. I'm sure he'll learn from it.
But more than anything else, to your initial question, Jonas,
I said, it's a tone setting comment, tone setting for everyone,
(31:35):
Like it doesn't matter if it was Baker's comments or
someone within the organization. I think Tom Brady sitting in
the tone like, okay, you you want to say something, Okay,
I'm gonna go on national television and because I'm gonna
have time to prepare what i want to say on
how I want to say it, and I'm gonna throw
an absolute overhand right like Mike Tyson and his Heyday,
(31:55):
and I'm gonna knock you out, and I'm gonna knock
out the next person, the next person. So if that's
what you want to step too, good luck, because I'll
have the time and platform. I mean, notice how KB
teed him up again for an on camera shot. You
have more like that's that's what like, Just so people
understand how games work. You don't come on camera as
(32:19):
an analyst and a play by play unless it's the
open out, a halftime, end of the game, or there's
a break where it warrants that that wasn't really like
a break. That was them interjecting what Tom wanted to
say at that moment to make sure his message was
sent very clear to everybody out there listening, knowing that
(32:42):
this would get picked up and this will get discussed
so it's not just Tom even too setting the tone.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
This is Fox Sports, this is you know.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
KB and everyone else behind the scenes, who's who's producing.
Like they're all saying like, all right, you want to
take shots at our guy, like we're gonna provide him
every opportunity to go one hundred on your ass.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I was underestimating how much he would address it. I
thought maybe he'd make like a swipe or some sort
of comment like, you know, I just hope they're not
as stressed out or something along those lines. But the
fact that he was teed up there was a presentation.
I was like, well, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
You could hear it in his voice and see it
like pissed. Oh yeah, you can see it.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And by the way, the other part of that too,
is like when he got to dude, it was in
the middle of COVID, like like there's all sorts.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Of practice practicing up parks. He was getting kicked out
like he was he was knocking on doors trying to
find playbooks.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Like everybody was stressed. It wasn't just Tom Brady, everybody
like Byron Left, which is like next door neighbor. That's
a great point. The whole world was like stressed out.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Everybody was like underwater and just overwhelmed with what was
going on. Like of course every like it was a
stressful time for everybody. We didn't know if a season
was gonna happen. We didn't know who was going to play,
wasn't gonna play, who was opting out?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
And so Tom didn't care about the virus. Bro He
was like, I'm on a mission.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Like all you cats out there who are worried massive
whatever he is, I don't care. I'm gonna go out
there and ball, like you can do whatever you want
to do. I'm prepared to go win a super Bowl.
And that dude did dur through a pandemic. Yeah, I don't.
I mean we joke about the NBA and the Bubble
Boy Championship and all that. There's somebody be said for,
you know, enduring like the Lakers did that year to
(34:27):
be able to win it. I mean, everyone's under the
same conditions and they found a way of winning. But
you look at Tom Brady in that instance, it's like
all those stories and I got some boys in Tampa
two who are like, man, that guy is on a mission,
but he's not. He's not trying to play around with
anything like it's it's all about going there improving it.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And he did. Man, it was incredible.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
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Speaker 6 (34:59):
Margaret, that's your new girl Lee.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
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Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks with you.
Yeah a Brady. During the break, Veto noticed that leaves
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Speaker 4 (35:26):
Her name is Margaret. Yeah. It's not, uh, that is funny.
Speaker 9 (35:32):
It's not like family or like it's literally the picture
of a drink.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
It's it's not like you love Margarita's that much, do
you No?
Speaker 10 (35:40):
It's uh, it's me on vacation in Mikinos Grease and
a very beautiful location and I have these awesome I
have this nice drink in front of me. I'm enjoying
it very much and it takes me to my vacation.
It's a nice spot, my green space.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I almost got arrested or kicked out at the airport
on my way out. I forgot to tell y'all this story.
So I'm going through the metal detector machine or whatever
where you stick your hands up over your head and
stuff like that. It takes scan you or whatever come out,
and the lady's standing there, and then the other TSA
(36:17):
dude is over there and he's on his knees like
I think he had just got done. Pat and a
dude down on like his legs and stuff like that. Right,
So I turn and look at the monitor, and for
some reason, my crotch always flags. I don't know why,
but it always like comes up on the monitors and
they'd be like, they.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Gotta rupt me down right, So do you say thank you? Wow?
So this time, in particular, Q, the dude is on
his knees. I look at it. I'm so used to
doing that. I'm like, you know, just go kind the way.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Creep pause right there for a second, all right, every time,
because I'm with you, like I've had those issues too.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Now.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
I just go through the metal detector. But when I
go through the one that you like spins around you. Yes,
that one the same thing, And I'm like, I don't
know why, but they always ask for a guy, and
I'm like, well, maybe I'd be more comfortable with a
woman doing Why don't I get the choice.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I'm not going to be patted down here. Never a
woman doing it.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Always a guy that just rubs you up and down,
like up and down, like does that hurt?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Like up and down? Are you sensitive? Like what? Anyway?
Speaker 6 (37:26):
So I light up like my thig lights up on
on the X.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Rack for sheet.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
He's on his knees, and I was like, well, you
might as well handle that while you're down.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
No, No, I think nothing of it because I'm so
used to it.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I'm so used to it going off.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
I was just like, I was like, I know you're
the one that has to do it, and that's the
area you're going to be in, so you should just
go ahead and handle it while you're down.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
In my bad my man stood up so quick. It
was like, whoa sir? Whoa sir? Sir? Sir?
Speaker 6 (38:08):
I was like, whoa bud? He was like, no, you
let you whoa buddy? You let me explain something to you.
I explained to you the rules and what has to
happen and what I need to do. And the only
thing that saved me, I think the only thing that
saved that from escalating is there was another TSA. I
go through there often the other TSA dude recognize me
(38:30):
and he and the dude kind of loosened up a
little bit, which I wasn't trying to be funny. I
was just like trying to get through security. But after
I thought about it, when I said it, I was like, O,
s I messed this one up. He jumped up, bro,
and he was taller than me too. He jumped up
in my face and was like sir, sir. I was like, listen,
(38:54):
I was just looking at the He was like, please
stop talking, like he ain't want me to talk nothing.
So I just I stopped and let him explain the
whole spiel and this, that and the other, and then
he rubbed me up and down and then I got
up out of there, but I almost got I almost
got caught up, and I almost got caught up.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Oh I got it.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
There you go, there you go. That's one to use
for the ages, because I tell you what, he caught
me up and down.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Man.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
I told him go ahead and handle it while he
was down there, man, But I ain't mean it that way.
I knew he was going to go down there anyway,
you know what I mean. Yeah, he stood up. Though
he didn't do it on his knees, he stood up
and did it.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
So you're probably gonna see him again this weekend.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I might, I might be flat.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
I might try to really make sure I could get
out of get out of state college. I might have
made things a little awkward in Harrisburg. Man shouts out,
Harrisburg t s a shouts out to thank you for
being kind to me and not popping off on me
and taking that the wrong way.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Oh, but I forgot to tell you that story.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah that's a good one. Yeah, two pros and a
cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up,
we are going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers
that'll be yours here. On a Monday morning, we had
mentioned and talked about the Deshaun Watson and Brown's fiasco
and whatever the hell that was, and the injuries and
all that stuff, and you know, just not playing well whatsoever.
(40:29):
I'll say this in the same division, and we haven't
a chance to really get into this yet. I know
they lost yesterday, but without Justin Fields, Pittsburgh isn't close
in that game. Like I thought he was really really
good yesterday and came to date. I mean, and it
gets better every week, Like he just progresses and gets
(40:50):
better every week. But he was fantastic, especially in the
second half.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I thought in that.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Game he was fantastic. I mean, he's gotten better and better,
and I think it's going to the point now where
if you or Mike Tomlin, you know, maybe you know,
you want to make the announcement that he's just gonna
be the guy that's who we're rolling with the rest
of the year.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
It would make sense coming off.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
This game, despite the fact that it is a loss.
I think the other crazy thing about this game was
on the other side of the of the situation where
Anthony Richardson again gets hurt, can't finish the game, Flacco
comes in and similar to last year with Gardner Minshew,
he's able to deliver.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
I mean, I think what first play in throws a
touchdown pass.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
But the general point with that quarterback situation in Indy
is in order for Anthony Richardson to be the player
he's capable of being because he has such a dynamic
runner and he's also you know, can play from the pocket,
you got to have both, and the problem is is
if he's going to be injury ridden, it's gonna be
really tough for them not to have a guy like
(41:48):
Joe Flacco or Minshew last year is someone who can
be the starter who's gonna have to come in and
win them some games. And that's what Flacco did yesterday.
But that's the truth in the matter of when you
draft Anthony Richardson in the way his careers go on
so far, he just cannot stay healthy despite that he's
an absolute adnis out there on the field.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
I thought it was an interesting game because it was
so much defense involved, and yet the Colts came out
on top. I think that was a sobering moment for
a lot of people on that that that Pittsburgh Steelers team.
(42:28):
I think they have to figure out how they can
be a little bit more sooner in games than what
they were in this last game.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
You can't. I mean, sometimes offense comes when it comes,
I get it.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
But this kind of goes back to that conversation we
had earlier in the show in the first hour, in
terms of when the defenses is out there and they're
trying to give the offense as many opportunities as they
can give them, and you do for somewhat of you know,
some parts, some portions of the game.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
I mean, they did give up some points.
Speaker 6 (43:05):
But you would have thought that maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers
offense would have gotten going a lot sooner than what
it did.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
But maybe it's a catalyst. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
Maybe it was a catalyst for them moving forward to
try to start faster. Not sure, but that probably needed
to be a wake up call for the Steelers team.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Cowboys Stealers. Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
It's gonna be a big game, man, because both two teams,
like now, all of a sudden, the Steelers are looking
at a situation where they don't want to get too
far off track, and you definitely don't want to open
up the door to the quarterback conversation or controversy, whatever
people want to label it as. You don't want that
to grow any momentum. You know, a loss against the Cowboys,
(43:54):
too straight losses a drop could create a very very
intense conversation about what's going on at.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
The quarterbacks position.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
And clearly we all know why the Dallas Cowboys need
to win, so
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