October 3, 2024 • 41 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, a Davante Adams trade seems all but done following Antonio Pierce’s comments. Brady delivers a Quinn’s Wins for all the games on Thursday. Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer gives insight on the Adams drama and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Rings rating win and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Reportedly, the DeVante Adams trade sweepstakes, it's the Jets and
the Saints who are currently the favorites. Don't say yeah,
the Cowboys are out apparently they are not interested. But
New Orleans and New York, the Jets, that is, are
the teams projected to be the favorites to potentially land
him and Lo and Behold. It just happens to be
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the two quarterbacks that he would prefer to play with.
So the feeling is that he's already played with, right, Yeah,
And the feeling is it's going to go that direction.
You know, it's going to be one of those two teams.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
The Jets. This has been in the making.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Aaron Rodgers loves to be able to take credit for
certain things that happened. Yes, I don't think he just
manifested it. I think he you know, he facilitated, that's
all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
The dude the way he I wish we had the SoundBite.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I should have put that in the notes to run
the sound bite. But I mean he said it like
super excited about having the opportunity to play with him again.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
He said it.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
He said it, he knew something we didn't know, and
now we're here and now we know. It's kind of
like Q's announcement, right, It's like he knew it and
he kind of alluded to it, and nobody really caught
on to it, but they knew that. He was like
clear about what he was saying, and then boom it
comes on. It's like, oh, there it is man. He
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said that months ago. Yeah, that's what he did.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Say.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm a lie. Say I'm a lie. Well, I mean
I didn't know about it months ago, but I came
up with the idea.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
I contacted someone who I knew could produce it, and
uh I my wife was like, all right, I'm on
board and together.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Not the not the announcement, not not the video.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh my bad. Yeah, the act myself.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
The announcement of the act itself took took place.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Not wrong. What what was that?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Jonas Damn Stallion?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh now all right, all I'm saying is there, Rogers.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We got we got technical difficulties.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
That would be the proferc time.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Like that for you know, just a cliffhanger yeah, all
time bender Cliffhanger.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, is he back? Yeah, he's back.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
There we go. What happened there? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We lost your connect Yeah, there's all right. So we
are We've got technical to get difficulties with LeVar. He
is in uh the state College. We will effort that
and get that. I'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I'll be there soon enough. Man move forward to it.
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So with that being said, Antonio Pierce, the head coach
of the Raiders, spoke yesterday. Of course, he was asked
about DeVante's status with this quote unquote hamstring issue that
has popped up, and somebody went ahead and did ask him,
and you know, did us all assault and said, hey,
what about that IG post that you supposedly liked that
talked about DeVante being on another team. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Davante's dealing with a hamstring, he's rehabbing, and the rest
of us are focused on Denver here in the building
today or supposed to be rehabbing.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Thank us a social media posts earlier this week. Is
that something that was accidental on your part in terms
of a post?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I'm just focused on Denver. Where is the relationship
with you? Often since sold. I believe that, and business
as usual just gotta keep rolling.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I mean, his NFL thanks come up every day, so
I'm taking over his job as it's been obstacles, so
just one.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So there we go. It clears up a lot. He
just strikes me as somebody who's over it. He just
is over it. He wants him to be gone, and
he wants to just focus on the team and just
not have to deal with this crap.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
There must be like way more going on behind the
scenes than we're privy to or we realize, because.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
If he is over it, it's.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Just interesting that he's your best player. Maybe you'd say
Max Crosby on defense, maybe you consider him that, But
to not have him understanding how much more difficult it
makes your things for you offensively. I don't know, but
I think he's probably, as you know, at least the
first time head coach at the NFL level. He's probably like, dude,
I just want guys who want to be here, and
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if you don't want to be here, let's.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Go find you somewhere else. Let's try to get what
we can for you and move on.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Like I know a lot of players who feel that
way when they know that guy's just scrumbled. It's like,
you don't want to be with someone who's bringing down
the vibes or bringing down the work environment because is
you know, they want to be somewhere else. No one
wants that, So I can understand his frustration, especially if
this has been going on a lot longer behind the
scenes like that. That makes the entire situation difficult. When
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you're best player and the guy that you need to
be the leader, you need to be the one that's
pushing everyone else, you know the back of his mind
or in your private conversations with him, wants to be
somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That's never a good feeling.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Didn't didn't didn't Antonio Brown come out and say that
that Davante Adams was not happy in Las Vegas?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I want to say, that's what I heard? Did I
hear that?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
No? You know you're you're thinking of guy? Was it
DeShawn Jackson?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It might have been DeShawn, but I know there is somebody.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Was it was DeShawn?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah it was DeShawn?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Maybe it was DeShawn Jackson?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Ye made and then and then you know, uh, devanteo.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Like sometimes he needs to like kind of temper. What
it is that he's saying or something.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
By the way, I like to apologize, and I think
we all should apologize sorry about that. I think Tay
said that he did not every yeah, all right, so
I think I think Tay said that he did. You know,
he's had a couple of conversations with Deshaun Jackson and
totally pushed back on it. I swear to god, I
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think whatever Antonio Piers saw on tape during the Carolina
game when he talked about business decisions right then and there,
it was all right, this guy doesn't want to be here,
you know, he didn't, you know, pulled up his end
of the bargain. We looked terrible. We got to move on,
and we've got to let people know that this is
not going to be acceptable here when I'm gonna head
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coach because he's not played since there's been clearly a divide.
Now he's got this phantom hamstring injury that's popped up,
and now you've got this back and forth to where
Antonio Pears doesn't even like just give short answers, does
the whole Belichick, I think he's just over it. I
think he saw enough of it. In the Carolina game,
and that damn Andy Dalton, That damn Andy Dalton ended
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the DeVante Adams Aaron las Vegas, and he went in
there and lit their ass on fire and ruined it all.
So if you look for somebody to blame for your
Raiders fan, don't blame Tay or one seven. Blame the
red rifle who went in there and ruined everything. For everybody,
it's the.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Can they win without him?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You know, That's the biggest question that I came up with,
was can they win without having like you're already.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And my dead last week?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I know they did last week, and that's I feel
like that's now. The question is moving forward, can this
team compete? You have listen. I know we continue to
say at least at least Brady, at least you sing.
You know Minshew's praises, you know his stat line looks
looks solid.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I'm not a buyer of I'm not a buyer. I'm
not a buyer of Gardner Minshew. You guys know, I'm
not a buyer of.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'm a believer. There's a difference. I try to believe
it because I want to see you for a lot.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Of these guys believe Sam Darnold type redemption story.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think that's not the best stories.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I'm not an all the way believer in Sam Darnald either.
I'm just I'm not an all the way believer in
these guys. And I just feel like at some point
you're going to realize and understand why they're you know,
who they are within their their ecosystem of the National
Football League. That's my I mean, in some ways, I
(08:42):
hope I'm wrong because it would be a great story,
But in reality, my mind says this is not going
to last. So if I am the Las Vegas Raiders
and I'm looking at who my quarterbacks are, and I
have it in Minshew and O'Connell, and now we're not
going to play Devonte Adams anymore. Your best player now
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becomes Brock Boers by by default and really kind of
the only real weapon of note that you have on
on this offense. What are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Like?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
What does this look like moving forward? It's already you're
already shorthanded. How do you navigate the AFC wes? How
do you navigate a schedule that you have which it
doesn't look as daunting when you look at some of
the teams and what they're doing now. But but for
what it's worth, they are going to play some some
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pretty competitive teams. How does this how do you measure
the season? How do you how do you prognosticate what
this season should be when you're looking at what's taking
place now with Devontae Adams not going to be, you know,
participating with this team.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I can tell you one thing.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Obviously we're gonna see more of and this would help
once Michael Mayor is back, but Brock Powers is only
we're gonna get more touches. I think they're gonna run
the football Sere White. You know, that's a good part
of it. The hard thing is is, you know, maybe
they're a buyer before the trade deadline for receiver somewhere
else that's unhappy, or maybe someone's in a contract situation
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it's not really working out. You never know, but the
Raiders could find themselves in that spot.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Or you know, if you're.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Looking into next year's draft, you know there's there's some
draft eligible guys who I think can come in and
make an impact for him.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Maybe the Raiders want to go that direction.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
It's hard to tell, but I would say, you know,
looking at things right now, I would I would be saying,
man like, they've got you know, the combination of Michael
Mayer Brock powers those two as well as a running
game that they're gonna probably lean on pretty heavily until
they can figure some things out in the passing game.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I mean, we should just get ap on and ask him,
you know, just get to the bottom.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I should call him up.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, y'all should hit him up.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I think so, just see if we can get
him on. What do you think he would do if
Lee just called him Labar just they probably wouldn't answer.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
But how would he How would Lee actually if he
did answer, how would he response on anything?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Hey, buddy?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Ap be like like, you know, who the bleep is this?
Why are you calling my phone?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know? Just uh yeah, just uh what are you drinking?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah? I will beat into the call, probably hang up.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, I mean Lee, uh, you know, if you want
to give that a whirl, we could we can see
about that.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Yeah, you can see if he's up and about see
what he's sipping on.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, give you some coffee, hey, Lee for all of us.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, let's not Oh, you don't not do that.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Not talk to AP, not.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
That, not talk to AP. Not just have you be
pestering him. You know, you know what, three forty one am.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
He's at the facility. He's just getting started.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
I don't know that this is like his time to
get done what he wants to get done before the
day starts and everyone starts inundating him with other stuff.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Okay, all right, I thought he might want to It's.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Like LeVar Jonas can can speak to this.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
If you want to get stuff done as a father,
you have to get up before everyone else, and you've
got to stay up past everyone else.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh yeah, they wake up before you. Over a rap,
get zero done?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
None, Yeah, I will say that's alpaca.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
He would. I kind of feel like that's actually.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Where moms are, actually where they do earn their keep
as the m v P. If I do need to
get something, No, I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
If I do need to.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Probably ranks up there as well too. Well, that's just
they were born with that duty they gotta do.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
They want a choice, they don't have a choice.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean, I know everybody trying to to find things
these days, and this, that and the other, but it
still comes down to mom has to do that, you
know what I mean, I have no choice, butter Bro.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
But I don't even want to tell you about the
article that I read for those that weren't born with
the ability to do so, but what they're trying to
do to allow those people to be able to experience
what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Good luck with that, oh man, good luck with that.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I read one article and I thought to myself, my God,
why would anyone want to have to experience the pain
of that, and especially the way they're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I don't know what that means, not trying to find out.
All I'm gonna say is thanks to the moms that
actually give guys the opportunity to be able to do
things that they would not be otherwise able to do
if they were.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Parenting at those moments. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Like me being here in state college right now, being
able to do the things I need to do to
get things done, I'm able to do those things and
the kids are still able to operate at a high level.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, without me there, they might operate out a higher
level without me being there.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Good that you just never know.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
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Speaker 2 (14:30):
It is time for the return of something that grows
bigger and bigger each week.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's whoop some Quinns wins.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Yeah, all right for the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Overall, we're four and two. Last week five hundred one
and one.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
If you recall Army, just let Temple score a couple
of tuddies to hit the over in the fourth quarter.
Pretty disappointed. However, we get back on track. I've got
I think four bets for you today. Yeah, that's where
I got for you. Four bets for you today, and
it starts off on Thursday Night football. This is the
tight one between Atlanta tonight and Tampa Bay. That's tonight.
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They're all, yeah, that's the thing. It's all Thursday night.
A lot of people are scared sometimes to dip their
toe in the water and Thursday night football, not only
just NFL college as well. I'm not folks, We're not
afraid to get up there and swing and miss out
a few right, So here we go Thursday night football
short week. We've got the Atlanta Falcons hosting the Tampa
Bay Bucks at the NFC South Divisional matchup. The lines
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a little too close for my comfort, and honestly, I
don't have a great feel and how this game is
going to play out.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Tampa has been phenomenal so far this year.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Atlanta seems to be improving as Kirk Cousins gets more
comfortable with than the offense. However, with Tampa, I look
back on that that game versus Dendra, I go, who
is that? What happened to that little guy? Bothers me
enough to say, I'm not going to touch the spread
on this one.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I am going to take the over of forty four.
That's where I got it last.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
But the total score of Atlanta and Tampa to I
of forty four points. All right, Let's move on to
college football. We've got Texas State heading to Troy. Troy
kind of struggling this year. Both teams, in fact, are
coming off of loss this past week, and then Texas
State is playing its first true road game, and look,
Troy's not an easy place to play. In fact, Troy
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has owned Texas State in this matchup. There's actually won
twelve games straight against Texas State even though they are
a heavy underdog, getting thirteen and a half points here.
So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take the points.
I'm gonna take Troy. I'm gonna I'm gonna side with
the history here of Troy.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Being able to keep it within that number. It's a
dual quarterback system there.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Goose Crowder is more of the pocket passer as sophomore
QV Tucker Kilcrease will split snaps them.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
He's a bit more of the dual threat QB who will.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Run more when he's in there at times. And their
running back Damian Taylor. He's got over one hundred yards
two times this season. The biggest thing I think this
matchup is both defense is our top four in the
Sun Belt and total defense and red zone touchdown efficiency.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So I also like the under of fifty seven and
a half.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
So take the thirteen and a half points with Troy
and the under of fifty seven and a half. And finally,
Sam Houston State headed to UTEP and sam Houston is
a heavy favorite in this one. I look the Bearcats
for sam Houston State have won three straight, while UTEP
is winless on the year, so hence the reason they're
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a heavy favorite in this case. Look, Sam Houston, they
can move the ball well, they really have through the
first through the first five games this season, and their
second in scoring and rushing also in Conference USA. The
quarterback Hunter Watson, he leads them in rushing. He's a
dual threat quarterback. He's going to be able to put
the ball through there a little bit too. He's got
five touties in the season over six hundred yards passing.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
But I believe Sam Houston's defense.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Which is third in the conference, we're able to stop
Javon Jackson to start running back for UTEP. Like laying
the ten points here with Sam Houston at UTEB tonight.
So there's your four bets for tonight over a forty
four for Thursday night football on Amazon Prime. I've got
Troy and take the thirteen and a half points and
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the under of the total for the game at fifty
seven and a half, and then finally lay the ten
points with Sam Houston State headed to UTUB I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
About well done.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That's how.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I don't know pretty much any of those teams and
could give a good guy, know, but we went in.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Money, var but we're going with some money. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Hey, bruh, you you'd be so thorough dog like that.
That's dope. I wouldn't know any of them. Oh man,
how even found something.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
To search out those bets? You know.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
By the way, I'm sorry, I do have some good
news for you on the over in the Bucks Falcons game.
Talk to me forty three and a half. So you
get a half point there, Brady. It dropped down on DraftKings.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Yeah, well again, shop around. We love DraftKings, but shop
around where you can find the best lines.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Also, I was thinking about this. And by the way,
for those of you asking, and there were a lot
of you, yes, Knox locks is three and O this
past week. Oh wow, it's just what happens, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
The problem is like you can say that, but we
never have your bets, so no one can actually hold
you accountable and actually keep track of this.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Have to agree with there because he also be truthful
and tell you how awful you are at sports betting.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Very true. Uh, but dude, you had a good week
last week.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Here we go there, I was there this time.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
It was probably because I was there get a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
So by the way, LeVar, if you'll notice that there's
probably a bag of Eminem's, it's not there where you're
at He.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Come on, man, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Lee got a little a little craving there? Um huh damn.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Wow. I was thinking about was making himself all the
way at home. Up in here.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I was like, you do know they will yoke here
ass up and kick you up out of here.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Like He's like yeah, but that was the waiting area, man.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I was like, the building is locked and secure, Like
generally waiting areas are are inhabited once you open the
building up to visitors. It was not open to visitors,
but but Lee was out there nonetheless, like Lee tries
to feel comfortable forever. I didn't want to guess you out,
so on your show man, the.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Best was the best was Levar's like you gets ready
to leave and he's keeping his voice down and he's like, hey,
anything happens. You don't know my.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Name, so you don't know me.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And I'm like, hell, it's doing now to get rid.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I don't give a damn who you know. You don't
know me. If they come to get you, that's that's
all I know.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
And I couldn't figure out how to close the door
all the way until we left the room. Jonas is
yelling at the big start of his show. You could
hear it all the way down the hall, like, hey,
can you close that doors as far as I could
close it?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That's what they said, or that's what Jonahs said.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
Well, Jonas was asking for me to close the door.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
O my gosh, try to get me in trouble now listen.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And it was fine, you know, And the fact that
Knox locks went three and oh I think ever, I.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Just went over there and started drinking LeVar Allen so
that I wouldn't have to think, like I didn't want
to think about how paranoid I was that I left Jonas.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And Lee where I did. I'm super fast. Yeah, okay,
Can I ask this, Jonahs, do you feel the need.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
To bring that up because you're so bad that you
can't even give us an overall record in the season
and how things have gone?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like why do you focus on the negative stuff? Why
can't you think?
Speaker 6 (21:34):
It feels like you always have to kind of like piggyback,
you know, when like you do well, but then you don't.
I got a guy at CBS Sports, Tim Doyle. He
used to do that, Like they used to show all
the professional guys and their records for the entire season,
and they'd be like Tim Doyle was like five and
two in his last seven picks. It's because the last
thirty picks have been actually pretty bad. That's yeah, that's
(21:54):
your strategy.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, basically, you just try and find any any statistic
you can manipulate to make you sound like, you know
what the hell you're talking about, make it sound a
little bit better. So that's that's that's what we try
and do here. I was also thinking about this because
I feel like, you know, it's a little bit unfair.
Like Brady's got quinns wins, I've got Knox locks, bar,
what do you think about sticks picks?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No, I'm good, Come on, man, I'm good on that.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Just make a couple of you guys.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Well, I do make bold proclamations, I do, you know,
and I'm pretty good at it too. I just I
let the whole official capacity of the breakdowns go to
you guys, man, because you guys are really good at
doing that, you know. That's all. I'm cool with that.
I don't have to have something, because y'all have something.
You know, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
I just want you to have that's howls though. So
a team guy, you know I am.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
A team You're not a team guy.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You're you're the dollars type of guy.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
What are you talking about? I'm not. Let me tell
you something. I talk about you, guys. Whenever I can
work you into the Jonas Knock.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Show exactly, whenever you can work like dougli whenever Tang
I'll just say it, Doug, it's like, Doug, have us
on the show. You have us on the show, Doug.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Doug likes his own saying box Man, I did a
show before. Doug is cool, good people, but man, he definitely.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
No doubt great. Like you can have us on the show, man,
We'll say yes.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Can I tell you, guys a great Doug Gottlieve story.
This is this is just tremendous. So I was filling
in for Doug. I think it was like New Year's Day.
It was a few years ago, and so just filling in,
you know, uh, doing the show. And during the show,
I get a text from a number I didn't have
in my phone and it just said, hey, you sound great.
(23:55):
Keep up the great work, et cetera, et cetera. Uh,
it's Doug. I was like, Oh, that's nice of him,
like that he was taking the time to listen and
all that stuff. So I wrote back and say, man, thanks,
you know so much. So a couple of months later,
whenever it was, I sent him a text because I
heard something he had done on his show that hey, man,
that was really good what you did on the show.
(24:17):
I thought you nailed it. And he writes back, who
is this.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
All right?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well there we go like that's you know, you got
everything you need right there. So he's a he's a
good dude. But apparently I didn't make the.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The well that wouldn't happen now and twenty twenty four
hitting in twenty five, you just that forgettable. I mean
he has been in the past.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Like I would say this from being around Jonas in
public settings.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
He is kind of like the.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Type of guy that stands close to the wall, doesn't
overly get into conversation unless you help engage him in
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I do, and then Jonas is very engaging.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
No, I'm just saying, like you, you are very engaged
aging with people, but you're not wanting to make the
first move. No, so you kind of like need the
introduction type deal. Yeah, never, weird, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Never he's a vampire.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I like to Uh, I picked my spots. I think
other people's stories are way more interesting than mine, so
I'd rather listen than talk.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
And here's the problem is, you need to do more
because like I've known you long enough now to hear
all the stories. Like we need to get you doing
more though, so you can build on some of those stories.
That's why, like the Ireland trip was great, the State
college trip was great.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We just we need more of you doing stuff to
get more stories out of you.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Are you are you considering me taking my son out
to get the trash truck to honk every Thursday? It
doesn't count, Like that doesn't count as like a big event,
Like that's like a big social event for me at
this point, Like you know, if I can get out
there and you know, let the guy honk and of
do what he's got to do to entertain my son,
that's what I got. But other than that, we go
to State College. I just like to chill, Like I
don't need to be the center of attention. I don't
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want it. I just want to sit back, relax, have
a couple of throat burners, and just enjoy good times
with my good buddies, Lebar and Lee. That's it. That's
all I want to.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Do it, and I would.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I mean, well now I'm saying in State College. That's
the most recent trip I was on. I mean, you know,
with Brady, we go to we go to Ireland and
then we have to listen to Lee tell us I
go back.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
By the way, Lee, Lee tried to claim and Brady,
you were there, so you know that he's full of crap.
He tried to claim and when I brought up to him,
he's like, oh, yeah, I think we go this direction.
You know, if you give me a little bit of
time into town, I know where we're going. I said, Lee.
When we were in Ireland, you had just gotten there
and you were smelling the air because you were trying
to let the air tell you which bar.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
We needed to let us great bars.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
No you didn't, Yes, I did, just because you guys
didn't like them and they weren't great.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
So two thirds of the group didn't like the bar.
That's not a good idea, that's not a good place
to go like he literally was smelling the air going.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
But he was being like Jonas Knox. It was like
the lead to lap show. He was in his space
and time looking for those bars, not yours or cues.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It was it was all about what he.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Wanted, but he was literally smelling the air and listening
the air. I don't remember Lee like leading us into
a bar the first night when we went downstairs went
to dinner and he was like walking around going.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Now, I'm like, Lee, where are you taking us? He
goes up just like a blood. Guys were like scared.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
It was like, but check this out, open this up.
It's a bar.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't recall any of this.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, first night when we went to dinner that night, tang, yeah, liquor.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm trying to think anywhere now is that you get?
You get?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
You get a blood down that smell. They will find
you from mouth about Lee.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Though he's not like the nice bars. He wants like
a dive bar.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
That's what he wants.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Absolutely, well look at and if it's if it's below
surface level, even better, if you got to take some
stairs down to get to it, that's that's where you'll
find me.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Like there's nothing wrong with that teach there own.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I'm just saying I did notice that about him, Like
there'd be like a nice spot where great scenery, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Nice things. He would be like, Oh, it's way too
nice for me.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
I'm like, well, yeah, Lee, you're you're wearing your big
Labowski like outfit, like wherever you go, so it's hardy
go in certain place.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
You guys got a basement down there.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I find the deals.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Man at least starts thinking about his bank account, like, yeah,
it's a very nice place, but you were the last
type of place.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
I wanted to treat you guys.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
But I'm like, you know, happy, you know the one
thing Lee be happy as hell when he gets free alcohol.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Like, I know, I've never really been around lead to
drink with him, Like maybe a couple of times we
went to like cheesecake fat or whatever. But when he
was at the tailgate, that dude was smiling air to
ear because he had double fisting opportunities.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
I was that whole time.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, bruh, I told I told the bar take care
of my boys. Man. Lee's face lit up like and
he got lit up. It was good. We would love
to buy us like a thymbol of rubbing out.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, here you go, man, So not until you try it, tang.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Right now, we're going to welcome in Albert Breer, senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the m MQB, also
an insider for Amazon's NFL on prime coverage AB, What's Happening,
Good Morning, Happy Thursday.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, and also former Texas resident. So I heard that
I'm not sure where Franklins is, but I always liked. Uh.
I don't know if you've been to Hard eight and
Capel like that was near the Valley Ranch, the Cowboys
old facility. That place is outstanding and uh and then
and then the Salt Lick, and I think it's in Driftwood.
It's like outside Austin. It's in the whole country somewhere there.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
You know what I like about the go to try
Franklin's brother. That's all set, you know, I like it.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Where is it?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Where it's in Austin? I don't know the exact spot,
but it's in Austin. We try to every time we
have a game there, we try to go by.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's the best part is is when you go to
the website it says the hours open eleven am until
sold out, so whenever you get there, it's gone.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
It's like that too, that like lines up kind I
wish I could remember the name of it. But there's
a place in Houston like that where like you almost
have to go there for lunch because they almost never
make it to dinner. Like it's so popular. The line
to lunch is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And yeah, so so what's the line like to acquire
DeVante Adams right now? How's that looking?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Ab Well, the line I'd say there are some skeptics
in the line is the way I would say that
thing's going right now. You know, some of the other
teams involved really believe that Adams is trying to engineer.
Try to the Jets now if you want to kind
of rewind and how this all happened. You know. Obviously,
over the last couple of weeks, Adams has had discussion
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with the Raiders about this, and they know his preferences
and his preference display with a quarterback that he's familiar with.
The Jets are at the top of the list, you know,
and I think you'd be naive to think that Adams
and Aaron Rodgers haven't talked about this, you know. So
there's that, and then you know, the Saints are another
team that I know he mentioned the Raiders, but I
think the Saints cap situation kind of precludes them from
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being really involved in it. The Steelers, the Bills have
also inquired, but again, like there's just this feel there
that he's trying to engineer a trade to the Jets.
At this point, that's what his focus is. It doesn't
mean he won't play anywhere else or anything like that,
but you know, it's it's pretty clear to the other
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teams involved that that the Jets are where he wants
to be.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
So because of that, does that make this trade easier
or harder? Considering the Raiders are probably looking to say
we need to make a market, but everyone he wants
to go to one team.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I think it makes it harder, you know, especially if
you're looking for like, say two right and you know,
we can all look at it and say, well, he
should get what Brandon at you was was was going
to get if he had been traded. I think that's naive,
you know, like I, I uh, you know, And if
you want to look at the trade offers for I,
you you know, the Patriots offered a it was a
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two of four, and and Kendrick Bourne. The Browns offered
a two of five and Amari Cooper. The Steelers offered
a two and a three. So like those offers were,
you know, for a twenty six year old receiver that
you could see being with you for the next half decades.
Dantay Adams turns thirty two in December. He's a great receiver.
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I'm not taking anything away fro him. He's obviously a
special receiver and by all accounts a pretty good guy too,
you know. Like so it's just the reality of his age,
you know. And so I think that the easier so
are probably Keenan Allen and Stefan Diggs. Allan is eight
months older than Adams. Diggs is eleven months younger. Those guys.
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Production the production of those three was similar. Last year,
Allen was traded for a four, Diggs was moved for
a two, but it was a future too. It was
a two a year away. From the trade, right, it
was twenty five two when he was right, and then
and then and then and then a five and a
six went back with Diggs to Houston, so there was
(33:29):
a give back there too. So I say, like, that's
roughly Brady like the equivalent like value wise of a three.
So like, I think what you're looking at here, if
you want to just you know, use the comps and
everything else, it's probably a three or four. And you know,
if you're the Raiders, I can't imagine you'd be okay
with like okay, like, well we're going to take the
pr hit for this and everything else, and we're going
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to do it for a four. I think a three
would be more palatable. But again, like if you if
you if you don't have like if the Bills and
Seals are sitting there and saying no, we're not going
to participate in you tracking the market up, then like
do the Raiders feel uncomfortable like they're not getting true value?
Like that's what's difficult about it. I think if you're
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the Raiders, like you want to feel comfortable that you're
getting true value for the player, but you know, without
you know, like without without you know, like three or
four or five like real bidders, because people are skeptical
that DeVante is going to get what he wants here,
it's hard to really gauge with that value might be.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Ab I'm a I'm gonna switch to a different receiver
who actually did show support and did say he loves
his team and loves where he's at and to rekill.
But he's gotta be you got to be looking at
this situation is one of the most complex and and
just you know, very very difficult situations to be in.
Because if you're Tyreek keel, soon as you get soon
(34:56):
as you get you know, tongue of aloa back, the
idea of it has to be he's one hit away
from it being what.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
What is next?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
And we're seeing that they're not good without him on
the field. So while he is very supportive of the
team and supportive of his situation, uh is this is
this a situation where Tyreek Hill maybe should be thinking
about trying to get out of out of dodge in Miami.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I think, like I think a big part of him
wanting to be in Miami in the first place was
with personal you know, like that you know, his family
was there, and you know, he I think he wanted
to live there, you know, so I think that that
makes the dynamic in Miami a little bit different. I
think he likes being there. I think he likes the
organization and playing with Mike McDaniel and all that different stuff.
(35:44):
Obviously been able to get a lot of out of
them as a player as well. But you're right, like
I think, you know, from a football standpoint, this is
really really complicated because like let's just say, for instance,
they hadn't signed tour of the contract, right, Well, then
if you're one of these guys, you can look at
it and say, well, you know, if two is not okay,
(36:04):
then you know, like maybe then in the off season
you trade for Kirk Cousins, who Mike McDaniel was together
with in Washington, right, and maybe there's like a path
out that way the contract. That just makes it so
much more complicated, you know what I mean. Like, so,
I just like I think the I think the easiest
(36:25):
way to describe it is LeVar is like that the
Dolphins have a ton of eggs in the in the
two a tongue of Belowa basket. And so if the
Dolphins have a ton of eggs in the tow a
tongue of a Lowa basket. That means if you're a
player who's signed their long term, you do too, you know.
So I just think it's complicated because of that. But
you know, I do think like that Tyreek, at least
(36:47):
my my my feeling is like Tyreek's been really comfortable
with the idea of, you know, both living and working
in Miami. I think it's a huge motivator in him
picking the Dolphins over the Jets, you know, a couple
of years ago, when he had the opportunity to go
either of those teams. And you know, we'll see, maybe
it'll be enough to help him manage what could be
(37:07):
a challenging football situation over the next few months.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Albert Bride joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Obviously,
you'll be on the call and part of the coverage
for Amazon's Thursday Night Football later on tonight between the
Buccaneers and the Falcons. So I got to asked the question,
what the hell is going on with Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Yeah, well, I think there's a lot going on with
Kyle Pitts knee injury a couple of years ago. Lingered
longer than anybody would have liked. He was determined to
play seventeen games last year, which I'm not sure helped him.
And you know, now I think, you know, you're looking
at a guy who you know, we're all looking at
for the context of okay, like he was a fourth
(37:47):
overall pick. Well, I mean, like he hasn't proven to
be that like level of player yet. He was good
as a rookie, really good as a rookie, but they
used it more as a matchup guy. And if he's
not running the way that he used to run, then
like what is he? You know, and you have to
like accommodate him. That's the other thing is like you
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can't just play him as like an inline tight end.
So you know, I like they have hope for him.
You know that he's going to start playing faster, and
like I don't think the needs as much of a
concern as it was last year, but it certainly did
send a lot of things sideways.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
And so.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
You know where this goes from here. I think it's
sort of up to Kyle Pets, you know. And I
would say this, like he's going to have to earn
his playing time going forward, Like I don't think it's
a sure thing that like when they get when it
gets the nut cut in time and it's no, I'm
pritt in December, and they got to put their best
eleven out there, Like Kyle tit is going to have
to prove that he's one of the best eleven, you know,
and you know, it's just I think a piece of
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of of of of who he is as a player
now is that you do have to accommodate him in
certain ways because he's not a traditional tight end, and
so you know, then it becomes who do you take
off the field. You know, Rairiy mcclods played well for them,
Darnell Mooney's played well from We're not even talking about
Drake London, you know. So I just it's like sort
of a complicated situation that they hope that Kyle Pitts
(39:14):
can kind of over the next couple of months get
more comfortable in Zach Robinson's offense and improve himself being
one of those best eleven.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Albert, Let's say, Nantasy South just curious.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
You know, Andy Dalton's going to spark to the Carolina
Panthers offense and Bryce is still sitting there as the
backup is there a market for him before the trade
deadline the season?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Yeah, I think I think there would be a market
for him. I just don't think if you're the Panthers,
you pull the plug this quick. Like in other words, Brady, like,
where is the where is the middle ground right between
the Panthers being comfortable pulling the plug on somebody that
they invested so much in, you know, the two first
round picks DJ Moore in that trade, right and then
(40:00):
like it's still being a value for another team, right,
like like what the Cowboys gave up for for for
Trey Lance, Like it was like a fourth round pick. Right. Like,
Let's say somebody comes and offers David Tepper, Dan Morgan,
Brent Tillis, and Dave Canalis a fourth round pick for
Bryce Young. That's not worth pulling the plug on on
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Bryce Young for is it? Like I don't think so
so and and base and how he's played. I don't
know that his value is much higher than that, So
I don't know where the middle ground is. Like I
think you would have a market for sure, Like I
think there'd be teams that would be they would want
to bring him into their program and try to develop him.
And and and and have him as like, you know,
kind of like a futures player for them. I just
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don't know that the price tag to go and get
a guy like that is going to match with what
the Panthers would need to pull the plug on such
a heavy investment they've made in the guy.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Get him on ex at. Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist for the MMQB. He'll be on the
coverage for Amazon's Thursday Night Football on Prime between the
Bucks and the Falcons later on AB. Thanks so much.
We'll do it together, all right.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Thanks guys, have a good one.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Thanks Al. All right,
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Rings rating win and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Reportedly, the DeVante Adams trade sweepstakes, it's the Jets and
the Saints who are currently the favorites. Don't say yeah,
the Cowboys are out apparently they are not interested. But
New Orleans and New York, the Jets, that is, are
the teams projected to be the favorites to potentially land
him and Lo and Behold. It just happens to be
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the two quarterbacks that he would prefer to play with.
So the feeling is that he's already played with, right, Yeah,
And the feeling is it's going to go that direction.
You know, it's going to be one of those two teams.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
The Jets. This has been in the making.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Aaron Rodgers loves to be able to take credit for
certain things that happened. Yes, I don't think he just
manifested it. I think he you know, he facilitated, that's
all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
The dude the way he I wish we had the SoundBite.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I should have put that in the notes to run
the sound bite. But I mean he said it like
super excited about having the opportunity to play with him again.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
He said it.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
He said it, he knew something we didn't know, and
now we're here and now we know. It's kind of
like Q's announcement, right, It's like he knew it and
he kind of alluded to it, and nobody really caught
on to it, but they knew that. He was like
clear about what he was saying, and then boom it
comes on. It's like, oh, there it is man. He
(01:43):
said that months ago. Yeah, that's what he did.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Say.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm a lie. Say I'm a lie. Well, I mean
I didn't know about it months ago, but I came
up with the idea.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
I contacted someone who I knew could produce it, and
uh I my wife was like, all right, I'm on
board and together.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Not the not the announcement, not not the video.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh my bad. Yeah, the act myself.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
The announcement of the act itself took took place.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Not wrong. What what was that?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Jonas Damn Stallion?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh now all right, all I'm saying is there, Rogers.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We got we got technical difficulties.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
That would be the proferc time.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Like that for you know, just a cliffhanger yeah, all
time bender Cliffhanger.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, is he back? Yeah, he's back.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
There we go. What happened there? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We lost your connect Yeah, there's all right. So we
are We've got technical to get difficulties with LeVar. He
is in uh the state College. We will effort that
and get that. I'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I'll be there soon enough. Man move forward to it.
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So with that being said, Antonio Pierce, the head coach
of the Raiders, spoke yesterday. Of course, he was asked
about DeVante's status with this quote unquote hamstring issue that
has popped up, and somebody went ahead and did ask him,
and you know, did us all assault and said, hey,
what about that IG post that you supposedly liked that
talked about DeVante being on another team. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Davante's dealing with a hamstring, he's rehabbing, and the rest
of us are focused on Denver here in the building
today or supposed to be rehabbing.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Thank us a social media posts earlier this week. Is
that something that was accidental on your part in terms
of a post?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I'm just focused on Denver. Where is the relationship
with you? Often since sold. I believe that, and business
as usual just gotta keep rolling.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I mean, his NFL thanks come up every day, so
I'm taking over his job as it's been obstacles, so
just one.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So there we go. It clears up a lot. He
just strikes me as somebody who's over it. He just
is over it. He wants him to be gone, and
he wants to just focus on the team and just
not have to deal with this crap.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
There must be like way more going on behind the
scenes than we're privy to or we realize, because.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
If he is over it, it's.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Just interesting that he's your best player. Maybe you'd say
Max Crosby on defense, maybe you consider him that, But
to not have him understanding how much more difficult it
makes your things for you offensively. I don't know, but
I think he's probably, as you know, at least the
first time head coach at the NFL level. He's probably like, dude,
I just want guys who want to be here, and
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if you don't want to be here, let's.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Go find you somewhere else. Let's try to get what
we can for you and move on.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Like I know a lot of players who feel that
way when they know that guy's just scrumbled. It's like,
you don't want to be with someone who's bringing down
the vibes or bringing down the work environment because is
you know, they want to be somewhere else. No one
wants that, So I can understand his frustration, especially if
this has been going on a lot longer behind the
scenes like that. That makes the entire situation difficult. When
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you're best player and the guy that you need to
be the leader, you need to be the one that's
pushing everyone else, you know the back of his mind
or in your private conversations with him, wants to be
somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That's never a good feeling.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Didn't didn't didn't Antonio Brown come out and say that
that Davante Adams was not happy in Las Vegas?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I want to say, that's what I heard? Did I
hear that?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
No? You know you're you're thinking of guy? Was it
DeShawn Jackson?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It might have been DeShawn, but I know there is somebody.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Was it was DeShawn?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah it was DeShawn?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Maybe it was DeShawn Jackson?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Ye made and then and then you know, uh, devanteo.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Like sometimes he needs to like kind of temper. What
it is that he's saying or something.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
By the way, I like to apologize, and I think
we all should apologize sorry about that. I think Tay
said that he did not every yeah, all right, so
I think I think Tay said that he did. You know,
he's had a couple of conversations with Deshaun Jackson and
totally pushed back on it. I swear to god, I
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think whatever Antonio Piers saw on tape during the Carolina
game when he talked about business decisions right then and there,
it was all right, this guy doesn't want to be here,
you know, he didn't, you know, pulled up his end
of the bargain. We looked terrible. We got to move on,
and we've got to let people know that this is
not going to be acceptable here when I'm gonna head
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coach because he's not played since there's been clearly a divide.
Now he's got this phantom hamstring injury that's popped up,
and now you've got this back and forth to where
Antonio Pears doesn't even like just give short answers, does
the whole Belichick, I think he's just over it. I
think he saw enough of it. In the Carolina game,
and that damn Andy Dalton, That damn Andy Dalton ended
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the DeVante Adams Aaron las Vegas, and he went in
there and lit their ass on fire and ruined it all.
So if you look for somebody to blame for your
Raiders fan, don't blame Tay or one seven. Blame the
red rifle who went in there and ruined everything. For everybody,
it's the.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Can they win without him?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You know, That's the biggest question that I came up with,
was can they win without having like you're already.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And my dead last week?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I know they did last week, and that's I feel
like that's now. The question is moving forward, can this
team compete? You have listen. I know we continue to
say at least at least Brady, at least you sing.
You know Minshew's praises, you know his stat line looks
looks solid.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I'm not a buyer of I'm not a buyer. I'm
not a buyer of Gardner Minshew. You guys know, I'm
not a buyer of.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'm a believer. There's a difference. I try to believe
it because I want to see you for a lot.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Of these guys believe Sam Darnold type redemption story.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think that's not the best stories.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I'm not an all the way believer in Sam Darnald either.
I'm just I'm not an all the way believer in
these guys. And I just feel like at some point
you're going to realize and understand why they're you know,
who they are within their their ecosystem of the National
Football League. That's my I mean, in some ways, I
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hope I'm wrong because it would be a great story,
But in reality, my mind says this is not going
to last. So if I am the Las Vegas Raiders
and I'm looking at who my quarterbacks are, and I
have it in Minshew and O'Connell, and now we're not
going to play Devonte Adams anymore. Your best player now
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becomes Brock Boers by by default and really kind of
the only real weapon of note that you have on
on this offense. What are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Like?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
What does this look like moving forward? It's already you're
already shorthanded. How do you navigate the AFC wes? How
do you navigate a schedule that you have which it
doesn't look as daunting when you look at some of
the teams and what they're doing now. But but for
what it's worth, they are going to play some some
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pretty competitive teams. How does this how do you measure
the season? How do you how do you prognosticate what
this season should be when you're looking at what's taking
place now with Devontae Adams not going to be, you know,
participating with this team.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I can tell you one thing.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Obviously we're gonna see more of and this would help
once Michael Mayor is back, but Brock Powers is only
we're gonna get more touches. I think they're gonna run
the football Sere White. You know, that's a good part
of it. The hard thing is is, you know, maybe
they're a buyer before the trade deadline for receiver somewhere
else that's unhappy, or maybe someone's in a contract situation
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it's not really working out. You never know, but the
Raiders could find themselves in that spot.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Or you know, if you're.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Looking into next year's draft, you know there's there's some
draft eligible guys who I think can come in and
make an impact for him.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Maybe the Raiders want to go that direction.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
It's hard to tell, but I would say, you know,
looking at things right now, I would I would be saying,
man like, they've got you know, the combination of Michael
Mayer Brock powers those two as well as a running
game that they're gonna probably lean on pretty heavily until
they can figure some things out in the passing game.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I mean, we should just get ap on and ask him,
you know, just get to the bottom.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I should call him up.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, y'all should hit him up.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I think so, just see if we can get
him on. What do you think he would do if
Lee just called him Labar just they probably wouldn't answer.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
But how would he How would Lee actually if he
did answer, how would he response on anything?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Hey, buddy?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Ap be like like, you know, who the bleep is this?
Why are you calling my phone?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know? Just uh yeah, just uh what are you drinking?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah? I will beat into the call, probably hang up.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, I mean Lee, uh, you know, if you want
to give that a whirl, we could we can see
about that.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Yeah, you can see if he's up and about see
what he's sipping on.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, give you some coffee, hey, Lee for all of us.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, let's not Oh, you don't not do that.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Not talk to AP, not.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
That, not talk to AP. Not just have you be
pestering him. You know, you know what, three forty one am.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
He's at the facility. He's just getting started.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
I don't know that this is like his time to
get done what he wants to get done before the
day starts and everyone starts inundating him with other stuff.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Okay, all right, I thought he might want to It's.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Like LeVar Jonas can can speak to this.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
If you want to get stuff done as a father,
you have to get up before everyone else, and you've
got to stay up past everyone else.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh yeah, they wake up before you. Over a rap,
get zero done?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
None, Yeah, I will say that's alpaca.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
He would. I kind of feel like that's actually.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Where moms are, actually where they do earn their keep
as the m v P. If I do need to
get something, No, I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
If I do need to.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Probably ranks up there as well too. Well, that's just
they were born with that duty they gotta do.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
They want a choice, they don't have a choice.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean, I know everybody trying to to find things
these days, and this, that and the other, but it
still comes down to mom has to do that, you
know what I mean, I have no choice, butter Bro.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
But I don't even want to tell you about the
article that I read for those that weren't born with
the ability to do so, but what they're trying to
do to allow those people to be able to experience
what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Good luck with that, oh man, good luck with that.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I read one article and I thought to myself, my God,
why would anyone want to have to experience the pain
of that, and especially the way they're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I don't know what that means, not trying to find out.
All I'm gonna say is thanks to the moms that
actually give guys the opportunity to be able to do
things that they would not be otherwise able to do
if they were.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Parenting at those moments. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Like me being here in state college right now, being
able to do the things I need to do to
get things done, I'm able to do those things and
the kids are still able to operate at a high level.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, without me there, they might operate out a higher
level without me being there.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Good that you just never know.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It is time for the return of something that grows
bigger and bigger each week.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's whoop some Quinns wins.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Yeah, all right for the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Overall, we're four and two. Last week five hundred one
and one.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
If you recall Army, just let Temple score a couple
of tuddies to hit the over in the fourth quarter.
Pretty disappointed. However, we get back on track. I've got
I think four bets for you today. Yeah, that's where
I got for you. Four bets for you today, and
it starts off on Thursday Night football. This is the
tight one between Atlanta tonight and Tampa Bay. That's tonight.
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They're all, yeah, that's the thing. It's all Thursday night.
A lot of people are scared sometimes to dip their
toe in the water and Thursday night football, not only
just NFL college as well. I'm not folks, We're not
afraid to get up there and swing and miss out
a few right, So here we go Thursday night football
short week. We've got the Atlanta Falcons hosting the Tampa
Bay Bucks at the NFC South Divisional matchup. The lines
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a little too close for my comfort, and honestly, I
don't have a great feel and how this game is
going to play out.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Tampa has been phenomenal so far this year.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Atlanta seems to be improving as Kirk Cousins gets more
comfortable with than the offense. However, with Tampa, I look
back on that that game versus Dendra, I go, who
is that? What happened to that little guy? Bothers me
enough to say, I'm not going to touch the spread
on this one.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I am going to take the over of forty four.
That's where I got it last.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
But the total score of Atlanta and Tampa to I
of forty four points. All right, Let's move on to
college football. We've got Texas State heading to Troy. Troy
kind of struggling this year. Both teams, in fact, are
coming off of loss this past week, and then Texas
State is playing its first true road game, and look,
Troy's not an easy place to play. In fact, Troy
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has owned Texas State in this matchup. There's actually won
twelve games straight against Texas State even though they are
a heavy underdog, getting thirteen and a half points here.
So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take the points.
I'm gonna take Troy. I'm gonna I'm gonna side with
the history here of Troy.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Being able to keep it within that number. It's a
dual quarterback system there.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Goose Crowder is more of the pocket passer as sophomore
QV Tucker Kilcrease will split snaps them.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
He's a bit more of the dual threat QB who will.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Run more when he's in there at times. And their
running back Damian Taylor. He's got over one hundred yards
two times this season. The biggest thing I think this
matchup is both defense is our top four in the
Sun Belt and total defense and red zone touchdown efficiency.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So I also like the under of fifty seven and
a half.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
So take the thirteen and a half points with Troy
and the under of fifty seven and a half. And finally,
Sam Houston State headed to UTEP and sam Houston is
a heavy favorite in this one. I look the Bearcats
for sam Houston State have won three straight, while UTEP
is winless on the year, so hence the reason they're
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a heavy favorite in this case. Look, Sam Houston, they
can move the ball well, they really have through the
first through the first five games this season, and their
second in scoring and rushing also in Conference USA. The
quarterback Hunter Watson, he leads them in rushing. He's a
dual threat quarterback. He's going to be able to put
the ball through there a little bit too. He's got
five touties in the season over six hundred yards passing.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
But I believe Sam Houston's defense.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Which is third in the conference, we're able to stop
Javon Jackson to start running back for UTEP. Like laying
the ten points here with Sam Houston at UTEB tonight.
So there's your four bets for tonight over a forty
four for Thursday night football on Amazon Prime. I've got
Troy and take the thirteen and a half points and
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the under of the total for the game at fifty
seven and a half, and then finally lay the ten
points with Sam Houston State headed to UTUB I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
About well done.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That's how.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I don't know pretty much any of those teams and
could give a good guy, know, but we went in.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Money, var but we're going with some money. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Hey, bruh, you you'd be so thorough dog like that.
That's dope. I wouldn't know any of them. Oh man,
how even found something.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
To search out those bets? You know.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
By the way, I'm sorry, I do have some good
news for you on the over in the Bucks Falcons game.
Talk to me forty three and a half. So you
get a half point there, Brady. It dropped down on DraftKings.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Yeah, well again, shop around. We love DraftKings, but shop
around where you can find the best lines.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Also, I was thinking about this. And by the way,
for those of you asking, and there were a lot
of you, yes, Knox locks is three and O this
past week. Oh wow, it's just what happens, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
The problem is like you can say that, but we
never have your bets, so no one can actually hold
you accountable and actually keep track of this.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Have to agree with there because he also be truthful
and tell you how awful you are at sports betting.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Very true. Uh, but dude, you had a good week
last week.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Here we go there, I was there this time.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
It was probably because I was there get a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
So by the way, LeVar, if you'll notice that there's
probably a bag of Eminem's, it's not there where you're
at He.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Come on, man, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Lee got a little a little craving there? Um huh damn.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Wow. I was thinking about was making himself all the
way at home. Up in here.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I was like, you do know they will yoke here
ass up and kick you up out of here.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Like He's like yeah, but that was the waiting area, man.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I was like, the building is locked and secure, Like
generally waiting areas are are inhabited once you open the
building up to visitors. It was not open to visitors,
but but Lee was out there nonetheless, like Lee tries
to feel comfortable forever. I didn't want to guess you out,
so on your show man, the.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Best was the best was Levar's like you gets ready
to leave and he's keeping his voice down and he's like, hey,
anything happens. You don't know my.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Name, so you don't know me.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And I'm like, hell, it's doing now to get rid.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I don't give a damn who you know. You don't
know me. If they come to get you, that's that's
all I know.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
And I couldn't figure out how to close the door
all the way until we left the room. Jonas is
yelling at the big start of his show. You could
hear it all the way down the hall, like, hey,
can you close that doors as far as I could
close it?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That's what they said, or that's what Jonahs said.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
Well, Jonas was asking for me to close the door.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
O my gosh, try to get me in trouble now listen.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And it was fine, you know, And the fact that
Knox locks went three and oh I think ever, I.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Just went over there and started drinking LeVar Allen so
that I wouldn't have to think, like I didn't want
to think about how paranoid I was that I left Jonas.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And Lee where I did. I'm super fast. Yeah, okay,
Can I ask this, Jonahs, do you feel the need.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
To bring that up because you're so bad that you
can't even give us an overall record in the season
and how things have gone?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like why do you focus on the negative stuff? Why
can't you think?
Speaker 6 (21:34):
It feels like you always have to kind of like piggyback,
you know, when like you do well, but then you don't.
I got a guy at CBS Sports, Tim Doyle. He
used to do that, Like they used to show all
the professional guys and their records for the entire season,
and they'd be like Tim Doyle was like five and
two in his last seven picks. It's because the last
thirty picks have been actually pretty bad. That's yeah, that's
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your strategy.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, basically, you just try and find any any statistic
you can manipulate to make you sound like, you know
what the hell you're talking about, make it sound a
little bit better. So that's that's that's what we try
and do here. I was also thinking about this because
I feel like, you know, it's a little bit unfair.
Like Brady's got quinns wins, I've got Knox locks, bar,
what do you think about sticks picks?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No, I'm good, Come on, man, I'm good on that.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Just make a couple of you guys.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Well, I do make bold proclamations, I do, you know,
and I'm pretty good at it too. I just I
let the whole official capacity of the breakdowns go to
you guys, man, because you guys are really good at
doing that, you know. That's all. I'm cool with that.
I don't have to have something, because y'all have something.
You know, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
I just want you to have that's howls though. So
a team guy, you know I am.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
A team You're not a team guy.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You're you're the dollars type of guy.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
What are you talking about? I'm not. Let me tell
you something. I talk about you, guys. Whenever I can
work you into the Jonas Knock.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Show exactly, whenever you can work like dougli whenever Tang
I'll just say it, Doug, it's like, Doug, have us
on the show. You have us on the show, Doug.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Doug likes his own saying box Man, I did a
show before. Doug is cool, good people, but man, he definitely.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
No doubt great. Like you can have us on the show, man,
We'll say yes.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Can I tell you, guys a great Doug Gottlieve story.
This is this is just tremendous. So I was filling
in for Doug. I think it was like New Year's Day.
It was a few years ago, and so just filling in,
you know, uh, doing the show. And during the show,
I get a text from a number I didn't have
in my phone and it just said, hey, you sound great.
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Keep up the great work, et cetera, et cetera. Uh,
it's Doug. I was like, Oh, that's nice of him,
like that he was taking the time to listen and
all that stuff. So I wrote back and say, man, thanks,
you know so much. So a couple of months later,
whenever it was, I sent him a text because I
heard something he had done on his show that hey, man,
that was really good what you did on the show.
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I thought you nailed it. And he writes back, who
is this.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
All right?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well there we go like that's you know, you got
everything you need right there. So he's a he's a
good dude. But apparently I didn't make the.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The well that wouldn't happen now and twenty twenty four
hitting in twenty five, you just that forgettable. I mean
he has been in the past.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Like I would say this from being around Jonas in
public settings.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
He is kind of like the.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Type of guy that stands close to the wall, doesn't
overly get into conversation unless you help engage him in
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I do, and then Jonas is very engaging.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
No, I'm just saying, like you, you are very engaged
aging with people, but you're not wanting to make the
first move. No, so you kind of like need the
introduction type deal. Yeah, never, weird, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Never he's a vampire.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I like to Uh, I picked my spots. I think
other people's stories are way more interesting than mine, so
I'd rather listen than talk.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
And here's the problem is, you need to do more
because like I've known you long enough now to hear
all the stories. Like we need to get you doing
more though, so you can build on some of those stories.
That's why, like the Ireland trip was great, the State
college trip was great.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We just we need more of you doing stuff to
get more stories out of you.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Are you are you considering me taking my son out
to get the trash truck to honk every Thursday? It
doesn't count, Like that doesn't count as like a big event,
Like that's like a big social event for me at
this point, Like you know, if I can get out
there and you know, let the guy honk and of
do what he's got to do to entertain my son,
that's what I got. But other than that, we go
to State College. I just like to chill, Like I
don't need to be the center of attention. I don't
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want it. I just want to sit back, relax, have
a couple of throat burners, and just enjoy good times
with my good buddies, Lebar and Lee. That's it. That's
all I want to.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Do it, and I would.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I mean, well now I'm saying in State College. That's
the most recent trip I was on. I mean, you know,
with Brady, we go to we go to Ireland and
then we have to listen to Lee tell us I
go back.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
By the way, Lee, Lee tried to claim and Brady,
you were there, so you know that he's full of crap.
He tried to claim and when I brought up to him,
he's like, oh, yeah, I think we go this direction.
You know, if you give me a little bit of
time into town, I know where we're going. I said, Lee.
When we were in Ireland, you had just gotten there
and you were smelling the air because you were trying
to let the air tell you which bar.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
We needed to let us great bars.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
No you didn't, Yes, I did, just because you guys
didn't like them and they weren't great.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
So two thirds of the group didn't like the bar.
That's not a good idea, that's not a good place
to go like he literally was smelling the air going.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
But he was being like Jonas Knox. It was like
the lead to lap show. He was in his space
and time looking for those bars, not yours or cues.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It was it was all about what he.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Wanted, but he was literally smelling the air and listening
the air. I don't remember Lee like leading us into
a bar the first night when we went downstairs went
to dinner and he was like walking around going.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Now, I'm like, Lee, where are you taking us? He
goes up just like a blood. Guys were like scared.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
It was like, but check this out, open this up.
It's a bar.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't recall any of this.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, first night when we went to dinner that night, tang, yeah, liquor.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm trying to think anywhere now is that you get?
You get?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
You get a blood down that smell. They will find
you from mouth about Lee.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Though he's not like the nice bars. He wants like
a dive bar.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
That's what he wants.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Absolutely, well look at and if it's if it's below
surface level, even better, if you got to take some
stairs down to get to it, that's that's where you'll
find me.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Like there's nothing wrong with that teach there own.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I'm just saying I did notice that about him, Like
there'd be like a nice spot where great scenery, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Nice things. He would be like, Oh, it's way too
nice for me.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
I'm like, well, yeah, Lee, you're you're wearing your big
Labowski like outfit, like wherever you go, so it's hardy
go in certain place.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
You guys got a basement down there.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I find the deals.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Man at least starts thinking about his bank account, like, yeah,
it's a very nice place, but you were the last
type of place.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
I wanted to treat you guys.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
But I'm like, you know, happy, you know the one
thing Lee be happy as hell when he gets free alcohol.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Like, I know, I've never really been around lead to
drink with him, Like maybe a couple of times we
went to like cheesecake fat or whatever. But when he
was at the tailgate, that dude was smiling air to
ear because he had double fisting opportunities.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
I was that whole time.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, bruh, I told I told the bar take care
of my boys. Man. Lee's face lit up like and
he got lit up. It was good. We would love
to buy us like a thymbol of rubbing out.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, here you go, man, So not until you try it, tang.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
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Speaker 2 (29:26):
Right now, we're going to welcome in Albert Breer, senior
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Good Morning, Happy Thursday.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, and also former Texas resident. So I heard that
I'm not sure where Franklins is, but I always liked. Uh.
I don't know if you've been to Hard eight and
Capel like that was near the Valley Ranch, the Cowboys
old facility. That place is outstanding and uh and then
and then the Salt Lick, and I think it's in Driftwood.
It's like outside Austin. It's in the whole country somewhere there.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
You know what I like about the go to try
Franklin's brother. That's all set, you know, I like it.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Where is it?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Where it's in Austin? I don't know the exact spot,
but it's in Austin. We try to every time we
have a game there, we try to go by.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's the best part is is when you go to
the website it says the hours open eleven am until
sold out, so whenever you get there, it's gone.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
It's like that too, that like lines up kind I
wish I could remember the name of it. But there's
a place in Houston like that where like you almost
have to go there for lunch because they almost never
make it to dinner. Like it's so popular. The line
to lunch is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And yeah, so so what's the line like to acquire
DeVante Adams right now? How's that looking?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Ab Well, the line I'd say there are some skeptics
in the line is the way I would say that
thing's going right now. You know, some of the other
teams involved really believe that Adams is trying to engineer.
Try to the Jets now if you want to kind
of rewind and how this all happened. You know. Obviously,
over the last couple of weeks, Adams has had discussion
(31:08):
with the Raiders about this, and they know his preferences
and his preference display with a quarterback that he's familiar with.
The Jets are at the top of the list, you know,
and I think you'd be naive to think that Adams
and Aaron Rodgers haven't talked about this, you know. So
there's that, and then you know, the Saints are another
team that I know he mentioned the Raiders, but I
think the Saints cap situation kind of precludes them from
(31:31):
being really involved in it. The Steelers, the Bills have
also inquired, but again, like there's just this feel there
that he's trying to engineer a trade to the Jets.
At this point, that's what his focus is. It doesn't
mean he won't play anywhere else or anything like that,
but you know, it's it's pretty clear to the other
(31:51):
teams involved that that the Jets are where he wants
to be.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
So because of that, does that make this trade easier
or harder? Considering the Raiders are probably looking to say
we need to make a market, but everyone he wants
to go to one team.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I think it makes it harder, you know, especially if
you're looking for like, say two right and you know,
we can all look at it and say, well, he
should get what Brandon at you was was was going
to get if he had been traded. I think that's naive,
you know, like I, I uh, you know, And if
you want to look at the trade offers for I,
you you know, the Patriots offered a it was a
(32:28):
two of four, and and Kendrick Bourne. The Browns offered
a two of five and Amari Cooper. The Steelers offered
a two and a three. So like those offers were,
you know, for a twenty six year old receiver that
you could see being with you for the next half decades.
Dantay Adams turns thirty two in December. He's a great receiver.
(32:49):
I'm not taking anything away fro him. He's obviously a
special receiver and by all accounts a pretty good guy too,
you know. Like so it's just the reality of his age,
you know. And so I think that the easier so
are probably Keenan Allen and Stefan Diggs. Allan is eight
months older than Adams. Diggs is eleven months younger. Those guys.
(33:09):
Production the production of those three was similar. Last year,
Allen was traded for a four, Diggs was moved for
a two, but it was a future too. It was
a two a year away. From the trade, right, it
was twenty five two when he was right, and then
and then and then and then a five and a
six went back with Diggs to Houston, so there was
(33:29):
a give back there too. So I say, like, that's
roughly Brady like the equivalent like value wise of a three.
So like, I think what you're looking at here, if
you want to just you know, use the comps and
everything else, it's probably a three or four. And you know,
if you're the Raiders, I can't imagine you'd be okay
with like okay, like, well we're going to take the
pr hit for this and everything else, and we're going
(33:52):
to do it for a four. I think a three
would be more palatable. But again, like if you if
you if you don't have like if the Bills and
Seals are sitting there and saying no, we're not going
to participate in you tracking the market up, then like
do the Raiders feel uncomfortable like they're not getting true value?
Like that's what's difficult about it. I think if you're
(34:13):
the Raiders, like you want to feel comfortable that you're
getting true value for the player, but you know, without
you know, like without without you know, like three or
four or five like real bidders, because people are skeptical
that DeVante is going to get what he wants here,
it's hard to really gauge with that value might be.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Ab I'm a I'm gonna switch to a different receiver
who actually did show support and did say he loves
his team and loves where he's at and to rekill.
But he's gotta be you got to be looking at
this situation is one of the most complex and and
just you know, very very difficult situations to be in.
Because if you're Tyreek keel, soon as you get soon
(34:56):
as you get you know, tongue of aloa back, the
idea of it has to be he's one hit away
from it being what.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
What is next?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
And we're seeing that they're not good without him on
the field. So while he is very supportive of the
team and supportive of his situation, uh is this is
this a situation where Tyreek Hill maybe should be thinking
about trying to get out of out of dodge in Miami.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I think, like I think a big part of him
wanting to be in Miami in the first place was
with personal you know, like that you know, his family
was there, and you know, he I think he wanted
to live there, you know, so I think that that
makes the dynamic in Miami a little bit different. I
think he likes being there. I think he likes the
organization and playing with Mike McDaniel and all that different stuff.
(35:44):
Obviously been able to get a lot of out of
them as a player as well. But you're right, like
I think, you know, from a football standpoint, this is
really really complicated because like let's just say, for instance,
they hadn't signed tour of the contract, right, Well, then
if you're one of these guys, you can look at
it and say, well, you know, if two is not okay,
(36:04):
then you know, like maybe then in the off season
you trade for Kirk Cousins, who Mike McDaniel was together
with in Washington, right, and maybe there's like a path
out that way the contract. That just makes it so
much more complicated, you know what I mean. Like, so,
I just like I think the I think the easiest
(36:25):
way to describe it is LeVar is like that the
Dolphins have a ton of eggs in the in the
two a tongue of Belowa basket. And so if the
Dolphins have a ton of eggs in the tow a
tongue of a Lowa basket. That means if you're a
player who's signed their long term, you do too, you know.
So I just think it's complicated because of that. But
you know, I do think like that Tyreek, at least
(36:47):
my my my feeling is like Tyreek's been really comfortable
with the idea of, you know, both living and working
in Miami. I think it's a huge motivator in him
picking the Dolphins over the Jets, you know, a couple
of years ago, when he had the opportunity to go
either of those teams. And you know, we'll see, maybe
it'll be enough to help him manage what could be
(37:07):
a challenging football situation over the next few months.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Albert Bride joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Obviously,
you'll be on the call and part of the coverage
for Amazon's Thursday Night Football later on tonight between the
Buccaneers and the Falcons. So I got to asked the question,
what the hell is going on with Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Yeah, well, I think there's a lot going on with
Kyle Pitts knee injury a couple of years ago. Lingered
longer than anybody would have liked. He was determined to
play seventeen games last year, which I'm not sure helped him.
And you know, now I think, you know, you're looking
at a guy who you know, we're all looking at
for the context of okay, like he was a fourth
(37:47):
overall pick. Well, I mean, like he hasn't proven to
be that like level of player yet. He was good
as a rookie, really good as a rookie, but they
used it more as a matchup guy. And if he's
not running the way that he used to run, then
like what is he? You know, and you have to
like accommodate him. That's the other thing is like you
(38:08):
can't just play him as like an inline tight end.
So you know, I like they have hope for him.
You know that he's going to start playing faster, and
like I don't think the needs as much of a
concern as it was last year, but it certainly did
send a lot of things sideways.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
And so.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
You know where this goes from here. I think it's
sort of up to Kyle Pets, you know. And I
would say this, like he's going to have to earn
his playing time going forward, Like I don't think it's
a sure thing that like when they get when it
gets the nut cut in time and it's no, I'm
pritt in December, and they got to put their best
eleven out there, Like Kyle tit is going to have
to prove that he's one of the best eleven, you know,
and you know, it's just I think a piece of
(38:50):
of of of of who he is as a player
now is that you do have to accommodate him in
certain ways because he's not a traditional tight end, and
so you know, then it becomes who do you take
off the field. You know, Rairiy mcclods played well for them,
Darnell Mooney's played well from We're not even talking about
Drake London, you know. So I just it's like sort
of a complicated situation that they hope that Kyle Pitts
(39:14):
can kind of over the next couple of months get
more comfortable in Zach Robinson's offense and improve himself being
one of those best eleven.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Albert, Let's say, Nantasy South just curious.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
You know, Andy Dalton's going to spark to the Carolina
Panthers offense and Bryce is still sitting there as the
backup is there a market for him before the trade
deadline the season?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Yeah, I think I think there would be a market
for him. I just don't think if you're the Panthers,
you pull the plug this quick. Like in other words, Brady, like,
where is the where is the middle ground right between
the Panthers being comfortable pulling the plug on somebody that
they invested so much in, you know, the two first
round picks DJ Moore in that trade, right and then
(40:00):
like it's still being a value for another team, right,
like like what the Cowboys gave up for for for
Trey Lance, Like it was like a fourth round pick. Right. Like,
Let's say somebody comes and offers David Tepper, Dan Morgan,
Brent Tillis, and Dave Canalis a fourth round pick for
Bryce Young. That's not worth pulling the plug on on
(40:20):
Bryce Young for is it? Like I don't think so
so and and base and how he's played. I don't
know that his value is much higher than that, So
I don't know where the middle ground is. Like I
think you would have a market for sure, Like I
think there'd be teams that would be they would want
to bring him into their program and try to develop him.
And and and and have him as like, you know,
kind of like a futures player for them. I just
(40:42):
don't know that the price tag to go and get
a guy like that is going to match with what
the Panthers would need to pull the plug on such
a heavy investment they've made in the guy.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Get him on ex at. Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist for the MMQB. He'll be on the
coverage for Amazon's Thursday Night Football on Prime between the
Bucks and the Falcons later on AB. Thanks so much.
We'll do it together, all right.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Thanks guys, have a good one.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Thanks Al. All right,
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