October 7, 2024 • 52 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, a lightning delay for the Cowboys vs Steelers shakes up everything. Texans are moving on up. Joe Flacco has proven he could be a starter on a number of teams right now. And The AFC North looks terrible, led by an underperforming Deshaun Watson. And much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrington rating win and Jonas Knox on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So that was a late one last night. For those
of you that's stuck around in Pittsburgh wanting to see
your team do it out with the Dallas Cowboys on
national television. Congratulations, you got to see a football game
end near one am your time locally, only to see
your team come up short. Fun game, a lot of
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exciting plays. Dak Prescott gets it done, and you see
the Dallas Cowboys celebrating, and everybody's fired up for Mike McCarthy,
the Pittsburgh guy who comes back gets his big win,
and everybody's celebrating. The conversation to be had, which is
the Dallas Cowboys finally get it done. I don't know
what the hell that does to anybody moving forward. I
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don't know what the belief for the Dallas Cowboys moving forward,
whether or not they're legitimate Super Bowl contenders as I
thought they would be before the season, or whether or
not that was just a really ugly game. But nonetheless,
the Dallas Cowboys get it done, and the Dallas Cowboys
take care of business. Against the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're Brady Quinn.
So my Super Bowl hopes of Dallas going to the
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Big Game still alive after last night.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's right, and they should stay alive. How are my
Super Bowl hopes of the Cleveland Browns going to the
Super Bowl? How's that looking right now?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, you know, I didn't want to bring up old stuff,
you know, that's that's not the direction I wanted to
take this, but.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I haven't officially he moved on. But I'm a week
away from that, so like just a week. They are
so bad it's awful.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They're also here. You know, I was thinking about this
of Cleveland. Not only are they bad, they're one of
the worst teams in the league, but as far as
how it looks just like optically, like what you watch,
especially on offense, they're atrocious.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
They're atroci And if you think about two hundred and
sixty seven days ago, they're a playoff team. That's what's
crazy about is they have had such a quick decline
from being a team that with a fourth string quarterback
and Joe Flacco could go into the playoffs and be
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considered a playoff team now to be one of the worst.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Teams in the league.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
That is a huge decline from NFL supremacy, like whatever
you want to to describe it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And then you watch the Steelers last night and you
think they.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Have no shot, no shot against this Pittsburgh team, regardless
of the fact that Dallas got to win. Obviously Dak
Prescott in the final moment's coming up clutch.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know, I've got a big problem with and I
don't know whose call it is. So you've been in
these situations when they decide that, okay, there's going to
be a delay in a game because of weather, and
you've been in many of these, Like it became a
running joke on our Sunday night show, like, hey, is
Brady going to get a some sort of a lightning
delay or some sort of a thunder storm delay. So
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you've been in a ton of those Whose call is it,
ultimately for them to delay the start of a kickoff?
Is it the league? Is it the local weather service?
Like like, what how does that out? How does that go?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's not the local weather service.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
They take that into account, but it's actually the people
who run the stadium because they're the ones who are
liable if they keep a bunch of people in a
stadium that's an outdoor venue, and there's lightning and then
the potential of someone getting impacted by getting struck by lightning.
So it's usually in this case the Pittsburgh Steelers, the
team and Hinesfield, and you know, the operations in regards
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to that. They've got a policy. You know, most places
are pretty similar. If there's a lightning strike, however, many
miles away, they will shut it down for you know,
thirty minutes, whatever period of time it is, And that's
typically how it works. And once they shut it down,
because they're pros or even at the college level now,
they'll have to have a certain amount of time to
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come back out and warm up. Now, when you go
like an hour and twenty minutes, which I believe last
night's delay was where suspension was, they'll have the teams
come together and even the officials and they'll say, hey,
how much time do you need? Like this is how
much time we're allotted in this instance, But it's been
a long delay. We haven't even got this ball kicked off.
Can we get out here and do a five minute
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warm up? Like do you need a fifteen minute war
for twenty whatever, it's staying in the rules. And sometimes
they'll come back out and say, yeah, that's fine, let's
do five minutes, let's kick the ball off, let's go
play this game.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, here's my problem, okay, and that's Look. I know
that you know, people have different priorities and all that stuff,
and that's fine, but you know, I'm waiting around to
do the show last night after the game the Challenge
on KNBC out here, and we can't do our show
until they get done with their game. And when you
have a early wake up call to do this show
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the next day, you'd like for them to figure this
thing out and let's go. And it dawned on me
last night. We've heard our entire life one of those
old added God, you're more likely to get struck by
lightning than this happening. So if it's a long shot
of it happening, like a historic long shot, let's kick
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off at eight twenty Eastern time, and let's just roll
everybody out there and see what happens. Like, what are
the odds that somebody in acrosure or acupuncture stadium is
actually going to get a lightning bolt to their temple?
Like that kid from powder. It's not happening, So let's
not make everybody wait around until one in the morning
on the East coast, or if god forbid, you've got
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early morning wake up calls for to get to a
show after you finish another show, Why don't you think
about everybody else and not like the fifty to sixty
thousand people that might get struck by lightning during a
football game. Come on, man riverside, get out there, and
let's roll two thoughts here.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
The first thing is, I feel like there's a little
bit of a plea in there for us to feel
bad for you. We're sorry you've become such a TV
star that you have to do with late night Sunday
time there in LA and no one cares. By the way,
no one listening to this, including myself, cares about you
having to stay up late to cover this for your
little TV job you've.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Got now, okay, little nickel and Dime TV show. So
getting that I didn't say that, those are your words, Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
The second thing I want to point out is the
fact that of course you'd say something like this, of
course you'd be willing to sacrifice one of those diehard
Pittsburgh Steelers fans for your own benefit.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You selfish jerk.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And the last thing I'll throw in there is this
is why NFL stadiums want to go to domes. However,
of course, the only people who couldn't figure that out
is the LA Rams because they build a stadium that
somehow feels like a dome but it's not.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, and they can still have a weather delay.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
So kudos to you, La, the Krokeys and everyone in
California who made that stadium possible that it could be
covered yet there could still be a weather delay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You have one shocking Yeah, what a way to go
out there. You imagine being the one Yahoo who gets
struck by lightning at a Steeler game and they bury
you in Bubby Rister's jersey, Like I mean, if we're
going to do it, like, let's do it right, you
know what I mean? Like that, that's there's a way
to go out, and then there's that way to go out.
So for me, look, why why Bobby Brister? Well, I
don't know, maybe they're a throwback fan, you know, maybe
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it's maybe it's somebody else, not Terry Bradshaw. Could be
Terry Bradshaw. That's fine.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I mean, are you really not going to hype up
TV in this case?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, listen, it could be Terry Bradshaw the TV. Look,
it could be Jeff Reid. It could be like one
of the jerseys Jeff Reed. Yeah, like any of those guys,
Like any of those guys, you want to wear that
jersey while you're out there potentially getting struck by lightning,
So be it. It's not gonna happen. It's a long shot.
We've always been honest too.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't think the players want to be out there
during that, So you're more concerned with the fans. Do
you think some of the players like Dak Prescott, who
are making sixty million a year want to be out
there for that?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
What's he doing like holding up like a giant metal
rod in the air, just like, oh, come give me
your best shot. Like, no, we're out there playing football.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Let's go, man, I don't play with lightning, all right,
Like that's the one thing in nature that well, I
guess I'd say like hurricane storm serves that sort of thing.
Which thoughts and prayers to all those in the west
coast of Florida, really all throughout Florida.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
We know North Carolina has been hit hard.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Thoughts and prayers with them, but man, they've got another
hurricane coming, so feel feel terrible for them.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But man, I don't mess with.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Nature like that.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'll just put it that way. Hey, you could go
out there get struck by lightning if you want. I
think LeVar is with me on this.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, yeah, stay safe, Ye got to stay safe, man,
you know, you know, stay safe?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You know, yeah, I gotcha.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
That defeats the purpose of living, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So it's a great it's a great point. Now a
little distraught over the the the loss.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Yeah, yeah, what a disheartening.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What do you think is more likely to happen next?
Getting struck by lightning or the Steelers having a decent offense?
What do you think is uh is more likely? And
have it?
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Definitely now opens up the conversation. I said this before.
If they have poor performances on the offensive side of
the ball, which they haven't had explosive, explosive games on
the offense, it has looked as though Justin Fields has
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gotten more comfortable being out there handling the offense as
the starter. But they haven't been amazing, you know, on offense,
and so they needed to keep winning. And then even
though you know it might have been ugly, which even
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if they had won last evening and it was close
enough for them to win, it would have been an
ugly win. Considered to be an ugly win, you still
keep the conversations and the whisp at a minimum. Now
that you lose a game the way that they did
last evening, it just it fuels the fire of having
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a quarterback in the wings that in your mind you're saying,
can he make us a better offense? And that's now
going to continue to be the conversation. Is this is
this a move that should be made when Russell Wilson
is able to play?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And so.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
That's that's going to be a reality. That's what you know,
those are going to be the questions that Mike Tomlin
is going to have to answer. And that's going to
be a question that probably exists in.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Not only the media's heads, but it's going to be.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
A question that exists possibly in some of the players
that are on this.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Team's head as well. And how does your.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Team, how did your team move forward in a healthy manner?
If that's the situation that you're facing, well, I think
that's where Steelers.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Are right now.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They turned to Kyle Allen. I don't know if anybody
had that before the season that Kyle Allen would get
a snap before Russell Wilson in the regular season, but
that did happen last night after Justin Fields went down
to get checked. Now, Mike Tomlin did speak postgame about
the state of his team the close game, and he
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had a really, really great way to put it.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
And I just told the team there's a fine line
between drink and wine and squashing grapes in our business.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
And you know, that's an example of it.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
You know, that ball is on the ground right there
in the red area, and that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know what's funny about he's not lying by And
when that happened, I was like, Oh, Pittsburgh's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
By the way is over. That's one of the better
plays I've ever seen at the goal line via Landon
Roberts diving over the divingo over the line like that,
the old LeVar leap. That for it reminded me of
old school football. Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
That was fun.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You know, you know it's funny. This is this is
before your time. You didn't pay against Reggie Bokshitt, Notre Dame. Right,
that was before you, LeVar.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, I'm way older than you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Reggie Brooks, no Reggie Brooks to me. Yeah, yeah, that's
I thought.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
So.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
There was a snowball game though against Penn State against Yeah,
and there's like an iconic photo.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Do you remember this scene the head photo of it top.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, And so, like I whenever I go, I always
think about that photo when I see like moments like that,
and I'm like, man, I feel like that's almost not
even like allowed nowadays, Like depending on the contact you
would have had, like they'll probably try to outlaw it
at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But that's what makes football what it is.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That was an unbelievable play, one of the best of
the entire weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, it was awesome, But you know it didn't matter
because Dak Prescott does what he does, comes up clutch,
and that's.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
What you're going with.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
That's what I'm going with.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
It's a painful loss when a Steelers fan has to
hear that they lost to a few teams and Dallas
is one of them.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
It's just not.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
It's just not something that sits well with Steeler fans.
I'll speak as a fan first in this moment, it's
it's not something that.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
We're okay with. The Raiders are one of those teams. Uh.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
There's just like teams, a few teams that, outside of
knowing the obvious of what's in the AFC North, the
teams that you just shouldn't lose to. There are a
few teams that historically, you know, tradition, legacy, you know, wise,
you just should not lose to that team based upon
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things that have happened in the past. And Dallas is
one of those teams. And and so I'm sure there
are a lot of pissed off fans in Pittsburgh this morning,
me and myself, I overslept because I was upset. I
stayed up to watch that as and I had to
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go to sleep thinking about the fact that our Pittsburgh
Steelers lost such a close game, and there was a
tad bit, maybe a touch of depression that that was
a part of how I felt.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
When calls it that, oftentimes too, he will call his
his rationale for his actions.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He will also say it's.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
It's because he's sad an act of depression.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's what we will call it.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Sometimes interesting.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
See, thanks buddy, Hey, buddy, appreciated, Buddy.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well, it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you. So we are gonna have the usuals
coming up later on. We do have another edition in
case you missed it. Later on this hour. We're also
going to have an FSR I RS. We discussed the
long weekend for the crew here on Fox Sports Radio,
and we'll close up shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers, which,
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by the way, is running on fumes, Running on fumes.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
We have tried a lately last chance today, Pal, you
got me, don't mess this up.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You're coming off a weekend. You still have a lot
more stuff and leftover. Berny Brady, you gotta understand what
you're talking to Lee. Last call for Lee's Leftovers, Last call,
and we will figure out whether or not there is
a for alcohol e not for food for alcohol.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
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Speaker 2 (16:01):
So yesterday there were a lot of matchups where players
were facing their ex team and that was sort of discussed,
and you know, Sam Darnold playing the Jets, DJ Moore
playing the Panthers, oh and Stefan Diggs playing the Buffalo Bills,
and that was the big, juicy one that everyone was
looking forward to. And somehow, some way Buffalo ended up
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getting back of that game. But man, oh man, Josh
Allen did not look good. And I don't know, I
just assumed that when he hit his head on the
turf the way that he hid it was a quick
concussion protocol saying, like, is that one of those examples
of somebody who might have finagled their baseline test because
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he came back in and afterwards they were talking about
a rolled ankle and I'm looking at the plague on.
I mean, I guess he kind of did roll his ankle,
But he bounced his head off the turf like that
that was the real story there. It looked like he
got knocked out for a second. Yeah, was that how
you saw it? And for some reason, I don't know,
he was bad. I just assumed he would be out
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and he wasn't. He came back in and finished the
game and did not look all that hot.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
And they still lost. Put him back in and they
still lost.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
So Stephon Diggs felt good about it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like that was the one storyline.
I mean, obviously Diggs getting his revenge tour, you know,
let him in receptions. But the Stroud to Nico Collins
connection is unbelievable. I'm still like trying to I mean,
coming into the season, I did not think Nico Collins
would have be having the year he's having right now.
But it's just big play after big play. I feel like,
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if you're a Michigan fan, you're like, where the hell
was this back when he was in college.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I mean, he always had the ability to be this, but.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
It's been incredible to see his growth as a wide receiver,
but also the chemistry between him and c J. Stroud
where they're connecting it. It feels like every single week
for some sort of big play.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And now he's got a ham string issue so he
might he might miss some time for them. But yeah,
there was the awkward exchange postgame as well too. That
people noted where Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs shook hands
and then Stefan Diggs gave him kind of a side eye.
You know, just it's clear, you know there's there's some
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issues there.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I'm just saying, man, there we go.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
There's problems.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But he didn't wap him up, LeVar. He shook his hand,
shook his hand. That gives you any indication of things?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
He Riley mossed him.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Not Randy mus understandable, understandable.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That a big difference.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Wow, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
All right, So what about the decision making for the
Bills deep in their own territory, at their own three
What the hell was that you just take three shots
down like that?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I mean, it up for Suseton to have a shot
to win it if you don't complete any of those balls.
And obviously, look we can always look back in hindsight
and question the decision because they lost. But I just
I don't know, man, I would have I would have
thought they released me run the ball, do something to
take away some time off the clock backed up like that.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So Sean McDermott did speak about the decision making there
late in the game from his own three and had
this to say, tough situation. You know they're holding three timeouts.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
Like I said, they get a good field, real kicker,
and you know, you go back and forth. I probably
should have run it on the first play, and just
because said, hey, where are we now. Either way we're
probably going to have to move the chains one time
right to not give them a chance. But again, those
are those are situations, and.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That's on me. Yeah, it was brutal, I mean to
his point.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
That's the hard part about it is you'd like to
be able to run one play, take away one time out,
and then reassess. If you get a three yard four
yard game, you're you're on track, you run the ball again,
you take away other time out, more time. There will
be a little bit more time off the clock, but
more importantly, you know, another time out of way, and
then maybe you're.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know, more than third and manageable.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Because the other thing is too the type of pass
plays you're calling could be a different pass play where
you know, yeah, you're throwing it, maybe you end up
short or you don't get it and in a third
and four, third and three, but it still keeps the
clock running to have three straight incompletions, I just you
provide them an eternity to make a play. That's too
much time for CJ.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Stroud And that's a head coach's decision. Or is that
the OC like, is he like, no, give us a chance?
Or because I would assume a defensive coach you'd want
to play it safe, and that just wasn't safe.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Ultimately, the clock management was gonna fall in the head coach.
You know, he should be overseeing all of that. So
that's gonna it's gonna be his decision as far as
what do you want to do here? And so if
he gives them the green light because he's saying, hey,
we have to get a first time, we have to
move the chains. Obviously they're gonna be stacking the box
expecting them to run, so you're not. You're gonna have
a better look to throw you are to run. It's
just it didn't work out three times in a row,
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which by the time you're on third down, you're stuck.
You're in that position where you have to throw the
football in order to try to get that first down.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean, what do you think of the Houston Texans
thus far this year, because it's not I mean, they're
four and one.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
They're a good team.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I think they're one of the best teams there.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
They're good. Yeah, they're a good team.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I mean it's not like they look great in these games.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
They haven't had to. I mean, you're not always going
to look perfect for all four quarters. I mean they
found a way to win for those games for some
stiffer opponents at times.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And look, I think they're.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Just hitting kind of the cusp of what they're capable of.
Still a young team, so they're a team that it
sits now at four and one, But I think as
they build towards the rest of the season and they're playing
some of their best ball in November December, you're gonna
be looking at this team as a contender in the AFC.
I'm just telling you, this is one of those teams
I would not want to see in the playoffs. I
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just I think they're dangerous that with the combination of
everything they have, they can on the football, they can
create big plays in the passing game, Strouds clutch, and
you've got a defense too that can make plays as well.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So it's a it's one of the rare teams.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They asked, I look at and I kind of think, yeah,
they've They've got all the components to make a run.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
That was a quality win they got yesterday. And I
don't think anyone can deny that, because this Buffalo Bill's
team is a good team. That's not a bad team
that they beat. That's a good team. And so when
you get quality wins, you rack up quality wins, you
rack up more credibility in terms of having the conversation
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of how good the team is, how good can the
Texans be. I don't know that we know what they're
ceiling looks like yet, but I think we have a
good idea that last year was not a fly by
night or overnight success type of story.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
They've cooled off, so to speak.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
They've figured out the Mik o'ryans and what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
CJ.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Stroud, he's cooled off, Like, No, this is a good team. Uh,
they're they're well coached.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
They seem to have the belief that they can win games.
And that doesn't seem like that's going anywhere. It looks
like this is a team that is going to be
one that you have to deal with and you have
to contend with every single time their their name pops
up on your schedule.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It also helps her in the AFC South because that
divisions are very good at all.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Joe, I don't think it would matter.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I think they would be a problem in any division
that they're in, just the way they're built to play like,
personnel wise, the way they go through the games. It's
a very balanced team. Man, It's a very very balanced
team on both sides of the ball. And I think
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they would be a tough a tough contender, a tough
team no matter what division they're they're in, and they're
going to be a team that you got to watch
out for, you know, you get into later in the
year and into the playoffs, it's going to be a
team that you're going to have to watch out for
if they continue on the trajectory that they're on right
(24:18):
now in that division.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I'm watching Joe Flacco yesterday and I'm thinking of myself
a couple of things Joe Flacco, Like, number one, how
was that guy? How was that guy not on a
roster to start last year? And number two, how many
teams would be better if he were their quarterback right now?
In the NFL, like there are a few of them
(24:41):
out there, Like he's been fantastic. It's Flacco just slinging.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
It the blue in I mean, well.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
We could probably go through them like Las Vegas now
they benched start him inshry yesterday.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Can we get some game show music here to go
along with this extra? That's true? Like let's let's let's
get some Joe Flacco love here. So any sort of
a game show music or would that be like PoCA,
some sort of East Coast music?
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You think so? He's the East Coast guy, right? And
what's Delaware originally? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I think it went the pit originally?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Then Delaware, yeah, correct, and then it was God who
was the quarterback that they had there? Yeah, And Dave
Wants had told a story that he made up an
award to try and keep Joe Flacco there for.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Like that's classic Waning, classic one. And he's a Jersey
guy though, right.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And but apparently Flacco's dad was like, no, we've already
got our sight set on Pitts are on Delaware. So
they were off and run home, all right. So here
we go show music, all right, So we'll go each
team at a time would they be better with Joe
Flacco as their starting quarterback?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
All right?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
The Buffalo Bills No, no, no, The Miami Dolphins, yes,
I think currently and.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
All right, I don't know. The New England Patriots yes, yes,
The New York Jets no sure, maybe.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yes, I had to play better than yesterday.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah yeah, no uh. The Baltimore Ravens No no, Cincinnati
Bengals no sorry, Brady Cleveland Browns yes, definitively yes. The
Pittsburgh Steelers, Oh yeah, I'm not ready to go there yet.
No field, the field has played pretty well. The Jacksonville Jaguars, oh.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yes, yes, nice when yesterday, But I mean I came
away more impressed with Flaka yesterday than Trevor Lawrence, so
I guess yes.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Uh. The Tennessee Titans, yes, yes, all right, I already
know your answer on the Texans. The Denver Broncos yes no, oh,
I don't think so it's Flacco not Kansas City, the Raiders,
yes yes, The Chargers.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
No no, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
No, the Dallas Cowboys no no. The New York Giants yes,
I don't know. Man, Daniel Jones is not being that bad,
so okay, and dump truck Nuts, Brian Daball, he deserves
a little bit of respect.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
They got one.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
By the way, did you see the technique that they
used on that block field goal? So they had Dexter
Lawrence pulled down the guard next to the long snapper,
and that allowed Isaiah Simmons a little more clearance to
jump over the guard in between him and the snapper,
because otherwise, if he touches the snapper, it's.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
An illegal play.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So and then it just so happens the ball bounces
perfectly office face mask into the ground and into what
was a Ford weed, and who ended up catching it
and running for the touchdown off the bounce. I mean
that was as well an execute special teams play as
I have ever seen.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
So would the Giants be better with Joe Flack quarterback? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Of course Philly.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
No, but right now?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No in Washington?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
All right?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
What about the Bears?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
No Ah, he played pretty good yesterday?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
He played Okay, he played pretty good. Uh, Lions, Packers, Vikings,
any of those teams. No, No, No, No, which which,
by the way, best division in football? Speaking of respect,
then North, the Atlanta Falcons, No no, Carolina Pan Yes, yes, yes,
the New Orleans Saints or Tampa Bay Buccaneers. No, no, no, uh,
(28:40):
the Arizona card No, the l A Rams, yes, no,
he's not. Stafford's not playing with much. The Niners and
the Seahawks, No, no, and no. Okay, So we're looking
at at least like close to ten teams that Joe
fl if he should be wacko for Flacco and just
(29:05):
out there slinging.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
What if we had the same conversation about tann and
Hill Tannehill.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
The problem is we haven't seen Tannehill play this year.
That's the difference. Like we've seen Fla last year.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Some of these other quarterbacks play true, true, So would you.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I would need to see the other side of the
conversation too, Like like we saw Flacco play last year,
helped the Browns of the playoffs. I still can't get
over the fact that the Browns were a playoff team
last year.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
They look so.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Far horror from that. They look they and and he
was just saying like an a.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Like there's people out there who are like, oh, there's
the Jerry Judy draftan end zone. Okay, like go back
and watch this is the first time be overly critical
of the quarterback play because he invites the protection.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Issues they have right now. He invites it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
There's times where he he scrambles from a clean pocket
instead of staying in the pocket and gets sacked or
ends up throwing duress. And there's some just errant throws.
I mean absolutely, guys, open errant throws. It's getting to
the point where I think I'm not the only person
who feels this way. But why wouldn't you put Jamis
in there, Like, why wouldn't you give Jameis Winston a
(30:20):
chance just to go in and see if you can't
provide this offensive spark. It doesn't have to be for
the rest of the season, but it can be for
a period of time. And I know we sent the
clip earlier about like Watson walking off the field when
they called a time out. It was taken out of
context for some people out there on social media who
were trying to make it look like he was quitting
on the team. They had twelve men in the huddle,
(30:41):
so they had to take a time out otherwise they
were gonna be penalized anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So you know, they end up taking the delay of
game in.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That case for a field goal. So the whole thing
was a bit of a debacle. But that being said,
that was one of the worst overall all around performances
the Browns have hadden quite some time. That's hung in
there for a little bit in the first half, and
then it just felt like they'd given up because.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
They know their offense can't score enough points.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They're not changing quarterbacks, they are not that's not happening here. Yeah,
they just he said along the lines of I've got
a coach better, We've just got to play better. Okay, well,
I mean a.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Lot better, a lotch their showed up somewhere before then.
It is it is terrible to watch this team now.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Can people just under Deshaun Watson hasn't been good for
over three years.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
He hasn't been good at all.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yes, So at what point is it like, yeah, this
is what he is, Like it's done and they're just
stuck with it, like they just have to wear it. Okay,
Like you got completely outplayed by Jayden Daniels and jayde
Daniels has been in the NFL for twenty minutes, Like
like what are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
How many minutes?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Twenty damn maybe twenty five, but yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Is uh, boy is dealing what about and delt it.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Delt it to them Browns, what about that was in
the I'm hungover right now.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I was in.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I was in was.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
We have not been able to notice this, LeVar. We
have not been able to notice this at all. You
don't say, yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
I've been in Zimbie's. I was in zombies the whole time.
It was wonderful. It's a it's a commander's bar. Lots
of LeVar islands were flowing.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Yeah, a lot of happiness, a lot of happiness.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You guys were like, oh my.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Gosh, look at them, look at it. Look at him,
Look at him, Look at dan Quinn, Look at these guys,
look at Daniels.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Go, we finally have a team.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
You know how many Redskins fans said, we finally excuse me, commanders,
you know what I mean, commanders fans that we finally
have a team.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
You know, I loved about it.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
There was a clip too of Daniels kind of running
back by Cliff Kingsbury in the sidelines and he said
to him like, hey, let's take a shot.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
They're playing man and Cliff trusts him.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I mean, think about he's a rookie Cliff's been a
head coach and in the league, He's called plays in
the league and he's he said, they're going, all right,
let's do it, and they dialed up literally, Daniel store
is an absolute dime for a touchdown pass the next play,
and that is the type of stuff you can build on.
I think it's also speaks to the environment like dan
Quinn's created as a head coach and just from being
(33:29):
around him, you know about a little over ten years ago.
Dan Quinn was always the type of coach that listened
to his players. He has a great communication with his players.
He wants them to feel a part of what's happening
on the team, the decisions that they make. It's not
just the head coach and there's some division. He is
the type of guy that listens and really takes into
account what they're seeing out there in the field. So
(33:51):
it is pretty neat to kind of see that. But
it's it's it's gonna be fun to watch this team
the rest of the season. It just it's whether or
not they can sustain what they're doing right now. Because
the one concern I have for Washington and the injury
bug hits everyone at certain points in the season. They
don't have a ton of depth, so they start losing
a few key guys here and there. Can they overcome that?
That's still a question they're gonna have to answer at
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some point.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
So we opened up the show talking about the scene
last night at hind or Acupuncture Stadium, whatever it is.
Apparently everybody scared of lightning in the Pittsburgh area, so
they had to delay the kickoff an hour and twenty
and throw everybody's evening and mornings off. Elsewhere in the
division was a phenomenal game between the Bangles and the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Best of the day.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
You're going at it?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That was that was That was fun.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
And they let them off the hook. Had it? They
let it get away.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Damn it.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
That knew who we knew who we knew who they were.
You know, I want to crown the crown.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Tell you what, when Jamar Chase makes plays like you
did yesterday, I sit there and go, man, if you're
if you're Cincinnati, you know you have to pay that man.
Like you know that that bill is coming and it's
due at the end of the season. I mean, what's
that deal going to look like? I mean, thirty million
per year minimum.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean, Jefferson's getting thirty five. I mean, is there
is he get a top that at the end of
He's yeah, I mean yeah, that's him and him and
Joe Burrow when they're on, they're on, and uh, it
looked great for a while, and then all of a
sudden made it even look great after you know, the
fumbled snap in overtime and then Evan McPherson lines up
(35:39):
for the game winning kick and Ryan Rico, nice work,
Bud way to go, way to hold that snap really
screwed me. I would have gone perfect again in Knox
locks two weeks in a row, two weeks in a row.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Because of that I got screwed. And that damn hook
the the Bengals plus two and a half, but because
of the kicking overtime got completely screwed.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
We all feel really bad for you, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You should, I mean you really should.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I mean, at least it was a better snap than
the Dolphins game.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
They had a nice little one that rolled back there.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
So is it over for Cincinnati this year? I feel
the same way about the emisode Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I have a right, it's Burrow, it's Chase, it's a
team that I have a hard time throwing the towel now.
I mean, I'm more after throwing the towel in Cleveland
right now than I am.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Oh, that's a rap. That's been a rap. It's a
rap for Cinci. Now it's a rap for Ohio. Oh,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
So a lot of football left to be played.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Lear that you're trying to celebrate victory in the first
quarter of the season, just saying I'm.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Glad you are hopeful, and like you said in in
the opening, you know you're a guy who's a glass
half fool type of guy. I just happened to look
at that Ohio glass and say it's it's empty.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
It's not even half fool.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's well, they still got one big coming up, uh
in November two.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So yeah, Joe burrow was they stink. Joe Burrow is
both was very critical of the Ohio teams. They stink
of where the Bengals are at. Let's listen to the
Sincy quarterback.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
We're not a championship level team right now.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
We're not.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
You know, I like to think that, you know, we'll
come back and improve throughout the season to.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Get to that point. But right now, we are not
and we have to get better.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, they're there.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I mean that's a great sound bite. I'm glad we
had that on our on our list.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
I would agree to they stink.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
What's their record one? And what one in four m?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, Look, it's not ideal, and it's not ideal if
you had them going to the super Bowl out of
the AFC like some people did. Yeah, Jonas knocks. Hey,
Albert Beard did too, so take it up with him
when you have till Yeah, I talked him once a week.
He doesn't count. So yeah, that was not that was
(38:14):
your that was your rebuttal well, yeah, I gotta let her.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
You a tattletale man. You one of them dudes?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
You get caught, you get in trouble. But Albert did
it too.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I'm saying I wasn't alone. Albert Brier picked him too.
He did on the show.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
So that makes it better. That makes it better.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, it just makes me feel like a complete idiot.
You know, alber Bird knows what he's talking, so.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, I can be complete idiots together. Is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 6 (38:41):
No, I'm just asking like it doesn't make you feel
like a complete idiot because somebody did it with you.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I don't get it our three hour three of that
hangover and he took a turn to be mean.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Here, I'm sorry, damn yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, usually I want it sets in and you hit
a little angry.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
I'm hungry. I got a little belligerents in my voice.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
He used door dash. Use the code two pros twenty
four bound use door dash?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Really?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
They know that?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, send it on over, get you something spicy?
Speaker 5 (39:14):
How come I never knew that? Why do we not
know this door dash? Well? I know that.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Well it's your first purchase. So like, if you've never
used door are you being serious right now?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Are no?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I swear to god? Why do we not? Why are
we not aware of this? I don't know? Listen, I
must you know.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Because if we're not the star of the show. Q.
It's like it shows itself every once in a while
where where Jonas will say something or do something that
reminds us that you know, this is the Jonas knock
Show with two pros, you know, not not two pros
and a cup of jobs.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It's all right if you haven't used door dash, just
use it two pros twenty four. That's your code too, pros.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Never heard us? I did not really I realize that
was the thing.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You get you a little uh, get your a little
discount there, get something that is are you spelling out
the two or are you just the number? The number
two number two.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Two pros e r O S twenty four.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
I don't know where this has come from, but man,
all right.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
The thing Lee? Is this true?
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Is he messing with this leg.
Speaker 9 (40:19):
I'm just as flabbergacid as you, guys.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I'm checking my emails right now to say, see if
I missed something. What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Lee? Where did you get this information from? Jonas?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You gave me the spot when we did it? When?
I mean, look, I'm just letting everybody know.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
This is Why would you make it? Why would you
make this up? It is just your terrible sense.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I'm not making it up.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
You get this information?
Speaker 9 (40:45):
I did do this?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, Heyboddy, there you are.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
You weren't coherent when did this?
Speaker 9 (40:53):
How do we still have the two pros twenty four?
Or fifty percent off? Up to ten dollars fifty yeah,
up to ten dollar value?
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
When you spend fifteen.
Speaker 9 (41:03):
Dollars more on your first order time.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Tell you man, I remember now, I'm hungry as hell.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
If you don't have door dash, shut it up right now,
use two pros. Twenty four you.
Speaker 9 (41:12):
Get alcohol too, must be twenty one or over.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
I don't need alcohol.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, that's up, very the lead here.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
By the way, is this one of those things to
where you're going to give up drinking for a while, Like,
is it one of those hangovers?
Speaker 6 (41:24):
I'm done forever. This was too much between Saturday and yesterday.
I'm just I'm done. I now remember what it's like
to be a Western Pennsylvanian, and I'm not. I'm not
okay with it. I'm done. I give up. Yeah, there
(41:44):
you go.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Hey, you know what, it was a good run.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
It was a good run. It was a good while
it lasted. Yeah, it's over, Johnny, Yeah it's over, Jack.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's a wrap.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
No more.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Not the way I feel right now, Not the way
I woke up feeling. No way, Nope, going, I ain't
gonna do it no more. Nope.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
When does the And I don't want to use the
word mutiny because you know that was already thrown around
when it comes to the Patriots and their quarterback situation.
But when does the I don't know, the divides start
to happen in Cleveland if this continues down this path,
because it's just it feels like it's getting worse every
(42:25):
week and Stefanski's got to answer a bunch of questions
and there's really nothing they can do about it. You know,
they're trying to find little wins. Nick Chubb return to practice,
and it's but they just they do not look good
and it looks worse every week. And we were saying
this earlier of our Cleveland looks like one of the
worst teams in the NFL. Like not just underachieving, they
(42:48):
look like one of the worst teams.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
In the league.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
They are one of the worst teams in the league.
I don't just look it, they are it. I mean,
and I just I don't know why they're so bad.
And anticipating what they may be this season, I just
(43:12):
continue to feel as though Deshaun Watson has to prove
to his teammates, to the fans, to the media that
he can be something different than what he's been in
seasons past. For them, the potential of its has existed
because his personnel as Q highlights so much and so well.
(43:37):
His personnel says that the results should be drastically different,
but they're not. And then we're talking about a coach
who I believe wasn't he a Coach of the Year
last year?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah? Yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
You saw an offense operate at a different level when
there was a different quarterback in there. And it just
bags the question of is Deshaun Watson's participation and presence
on this team dragging this team down? Is he a
quick saying quarterback? And that's the feeling I get when
(44:19):
I watch this team is there they are attached to
the hip of Deshaun Watson, for good or for bad,
and you're seeing what the results of him not being
more than what he has been being the results of
why this Cleveland Browns team.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
And I mean, there are.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
Other things that they're struggling with, but I think it
ultimately falls It falls on the fact that you're not
getting stellar, you're getting subpart played from the quarterback position
for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
It's the one thing holding them back and you have
to here's the here's the issues.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
We've already heard from Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
They're not making a quarterback change, even though I think
it would be good for the team, the locker room,
everyone to try to find a spark. This offense seems lifeless.
I mean, forget about the Aaron throws or him leaving
clean pockets and inviting more pressure than there actually is.
And are their offensive line missqu Sure they're banged up,
(45:23):
the wide receivers dropping some balls. Sure that happens everywhere.
It's not like there's a greater clip in Cleveland than
there is on other teams. He is playing awful and
they need a spark, but Stefanski doesn't want to do it,
or the organization doesn't want to do it. So there's
there's going to be someone's going to take the fall
for this. I don't you know. The hard thing is
(45:45):
like Ken Dorris is the Sea? Is Ken going to
I hope not.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
I know Ken.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
I think he's a good coach, and I don't think
he has anything to do with it.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Is Kevin Stefanski going to a year after being the
coach of the year, a year after this team going
to the playoffs with the four string quarter you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I mean, even the defense is.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Getting worn down where they're not looking like the defense
that Jim Schwartz led last year, even though they're tremendously talented.
It it's hard when you see an NFL team like
this that makes one bad decision, and because of the compensation,
because of the contract, because they dug their heels in
when they made the decision to go after a guy
(46:24):
that probably hasn't played his best football in five years now,
since twenty nineteen. And they've now put themselves in this
position where that they can move on or they don't
want to move on and admit the mistake. That's just stubbornness, man.
And that's the hard part is right now, this is
this team is a shell of itself from where it
(46:45):
was two.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Hundred and sixty seven days ago. It's sad to see.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Do you think that the front office has already told
him you can't bench him, like you have to figure
this out. He's your quarterback under no circumstances because as
a coach, aren't they kind of hand cuffing him to
this guy when stefans he's looking around.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah, I think they handcuff him when they signed him.
How do think Stefanski wanted them then? I mean that's
just the truth. Like, if not that the time would
have worked out. But if you would have gave Stefanski
the pick of which you know quarterback he wanted to
go get or try to get, I don't know that
he was wild about the decision to bring him on,
(47:24):
and so now he's even more handcuff with him.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
They need to do something.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
I'd rather benching and go out with a blaze of glory,
like if y'all it, I'm gonna go out my way,
and I'm gonna see what we can do with Jamis.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
I'm gonna see what we can do.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
Going in a different direction because I'm not I'm not
saving my job by keeping them in here, which y'all
telling me to keep them in the game anyway. So
I'm damned if I do. I'm damned if I don't.
So I'm gonna at least go out winning, like what
they fired me for winning. I put in a different
quarterback and I got fired for winning. I don't think.
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So they better do something because they stink ain't a
good team, and it don't look like they're trending in
a different direction, like like they're almost there, like they're
right there at it, they're close to being a good team.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
It's not a good team. It's not a good team, man.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, it's a rough way to go for the Cleveland
Browns right now. But you know it's a horrid.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
Lee.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
What would you do if you're the Cleveland Browns?
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Lee?
Speaker 9 (48:32):
What would I do if I were the Cleveland Browns?
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (48:36):
Yeah, what would I do? I would just I would
just start drinking.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
That's what I can't.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
I can't even judge you this morning.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
What everyone's thinking.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
So I don't know.
Speaker 9 (48:52):
Men, Hey, buddy, trade Cooper away, get something for him.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Why are you trade a wear your best? Call it
a day, call it a round, just give it up,
give it on it. Yeah, yeah, that's uh. They're they
are brutal, and they're like not competitive. Like that's the
other thing, Like there's like they're just not in the
Like that game wasn't closed yesterday, Like, who do you
feel better about? Carolina Panthers? Are the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
It's over for the Panthers too.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
That's a rap, Carolina, Carolina. I don't let's say Bryce
Bryce Young got some burn time yesterday.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
Of course he did.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Did you see Dave Canalis talking after the game, like
the entire reason why Bryce Young got burn time was
because they had injuries on the offensive line and they
didn't want Andy Dolton to play behind. And about banged
up offensive line, Think about how fast Bryce Young goes
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from being the first overall pick, a guy that they
tried to build around, do everything around, and now he's
getting playing time to play behind it banked up offensive
line her.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
So now Bryce Young's gone from number one overall pick
to the windshield of Andy Dalton.
Speaker 5 (50:19):
Winshield.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
You get bugs which squashed that flipped so quick it
begs the question, like, think about how the season started off,
how fast they made the transition, and now they're already
here to Dalton. You have to be asking yourself like,
did you just waste the entire offseason then preparing something
that you ultimately didn't believe in.
Speaker 5 (50:39):
Don't sucked in the game, like that's a rap.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
He didn't play well in this one, but he has
provided a spark at times for the I do wonder
if there was like that, you know, dead cat bounce back.
It's kind of the phrase if they got that from
Dalton initially and then now it's like the resorted back
to they're just not a good football team.
Speaker 5 (50:59):
They beat the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Yeah, Raiders aren't good either.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah, they're not even close to being good.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
I mean, Sean Payton was in his bag. There's guys
running wide open around the the secondary for Denver, there's
dropping balls left and right.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
It could have been worse. It should have been worse.
The Raiders are so bad. White cornerbacks are coming up
with interceptions. Emilia that I ought to tell you're.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
Not gonna hit the button mark never hit the way.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's a factual statement.
Speaker 4 (51:30):
Yeah, that's it's not.
Speaker 8 (51:33):
Me.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
It's a white guy talking about a white guy.
Speaker 5 (51:35):
Yeah, geez, I can say that it's white on white crime. Geese.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Aring.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Okay, he just be a cornerback, Jonas, Okay, he just
be a cornerback that was getting getting interceptions.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
I didn't make them know what are the other colors?
What's the other cornerbacks color? What color are they? I mean?
Speaker 2 (51:58):
In the words of the great Rovert Flores black dog,
yeah all them by the way, you see, speaking of Roberto, I.
Speaker 5 (52:08):
Was losing his mind on text.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
I love well, I love his Uh. He goes to Twitter.
So in the Dodgers Padres game last night, Jackson Profar
the out uh for the Padres.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
You know, he mocked the fans and then they were
throwing baseballs at him. Not great, not a great look
for the Dodger fans. But like Roberto, just goes straight
to the point, like he doesn't mess around, there's no hashtags,
there's no nothing, goes straight to X and just writes
Profar is a bitch and that's it. Just let it
(52:43):
fly and uh and and off your guy, yeah Flores.
Speaker 5 (52:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
So hopefully things go better in Game three for the
Dodgers
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrington rating win and Jonas Knox on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So that was a late one last night. For those
of you that's stuck around in Pittsburgh wanting to see
your team do it out with the Dallas Cowboys on
national television. Congratulations, you got to see a football game
end near one am your time locally, only to see
your team come up short. Fun game, a lot of
(00:35):
exciting plays. Dak Prescott gets it done, and you see
the Dallas Cowboys celebrating, and everybody's fired up for Mike McCarthy,
the Pittsburgh guy who comes back gets his big win,
and everybody's celebrating. The conversation to be had, which is
the Dallas Cowboys finally get it done. I don't know
what the hell that does to anybody moving forward. I
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don't know what the belief for the Dallas Cowboys moving forward,
whether or not they're legitimate Super Bowl contenders as I
thought they would be before the season, or whether or
not that was just a really ugly game. But nonetheless,
the Dallas Cowboys get it done, and the Dallas Cowboys
take care of business. Against the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're Brady Quinn.
So my Super Bowl hopes of Dallas going to the
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Big Game still alive after last night.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's right, and they should stay alive. How are my
Super Bowl hopes of the Cleveland Browns going to the
Super Bowl? How's that looking right now?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, you know, I didn't want to bring up old stuff,
you know, that's that's not the direction I wanted to
take this, but.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I haven't officially he moved on. But I'm a week
away from that, so like just a week. They are
so bad it's awful.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They're also here. You know, I was thinking about this
of Cleveland. Not only are they bad, they're one of
the worst teams in the league, but as far as
how it looks just like optically, like what you watch,
especially on offense, they're atrocious.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
They're atroci And if you think about two hundred and
sixty seven days ago, they're a playoff team. That's what's
crazy about is they have had such a quick decline
from being a team that with a fourth string quarterback
and Joe Flacco could go into the playoffs and be
(02:19):
considered a playoff team now to be one of the worst.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Teams in the league.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
That is a huge decline from NFL supremacy, like whatever
you want to to describe it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And then you watch the Steelers last night and you
think they.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Have no shot, no shot against this Pittsburgh team, regardless
of the fact that Dallas got to win. Obviously Dak
Prescott in the final moment's coming up clutch.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know, I've got a big problem with and I
don't know whose call it is. So you've been in
these situations when they decide that, okay, there's going to
be a delay in a game because of weather, and
you've been in many of these, Like it became a
running joke on our Sunday night show, like, hey, is
Brady going to get a some sort of a lightning
delay or some sort of a thunder storm delay. So
(03:02):
you've been in a ton of those Whose call is it,
ultimately for them to delay the start of a kickoff?
Is it the league? Is it the local weather service?
Like like, what how does that out? How does that go?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's not the local weather service.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
They take that into account, but it's actually the people
who run the stadium because they're the ones who are
liable if they keep a bunch of people in a
stadium that's an outdoor venue, and there's lightning and then
the potential of someone getting impacted by getting struck by lightning.
So it's usually in this case the Pittsburgh Steelers, the
team and Hinesfield, and you know, the operations in regards
(03:36):
to that. They've got a policy. You know, most places
are pretty similar. If there's a lightning strike, however, many
miles away, they will shut it down for you know,
thirty minutes, whatever period of time it is, And that's
typically how it works. And once they shut it down,
because they're pros or even at the college level now,
they'll have to have a certain amount of time to
(03:58):
come back out and warm up. Now, when you go
like an hour and twenty minutes, which I believe last
night's delay was where suspension was, they'll have the teams
come together and even the officials and they'll say, hey,
how much time do you need? Like this is how
much time we're allotted in this instance, But it's been
a long delay. We haven't even got this ball kicked off.
Can we get out here and do a five minute
(04:19):
warm up? Like do you need a fifteen minute war
for twenty whatever, it's staying in the rules. And sometimes
they'll come back out and say, yeah, that's fine, let's
do five minutes, let's kick the ball off, let's go
play this game.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, here's my problem, okay, and that's Look. I know
that you know, people have different priorities and all that stuff,
and that's fine, but you know, I'm waiting around to
do the show last night after the game the Challenge
on KNBC out here, and we can't do our show
until they get done with their game. And when you
have a early wake up call to do this show
(04:51):
the next day, you'd like for them to figure this
thing out and let's go. And it dawned on me
last night. We've heard our entire life one of those
old added God, you're more likely to get struck by
lightning than this happening. So if it's a long shot
of it happening, like a historic long shot, let's kick
(05:11):
off at eight twenty Eastern time, and let's just roll
everybody out there and see what happens. Like, what are
the odds that somebody in acrosure or acupuncture stadium is
actually going to get a lightning bolt to their temple?
Like that kid from powder. It's not happening, So let's
not make everybody wait around until one in the morning
on the East coast, or if god forbid, you've got
(05:33):
early morning wake up calls for to get to a
show after you finish another show, Why don't you think
about everybody else and not like the fifty to sixty
thousand people that might get struck by lightning during a
football game. Come on, man riverside, get out there, and
let's roll two thoughts here.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
The first thing is, I feel like there's a little
bit of a plea in there for us to feel
bad for you. We're sorry you've become such a TV
star that you have to do with late night Sunday
time there in LA and no one cares. By the way,
no one listening to this, including myself, cares about you
having to stay up late to cover this for your
little TV job you've.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Got now, okay, little nickel and Dime TV show. So
getting that I didn't say that, those are your words, Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
The second thing I want to point out is the
fact that of course you'd say something like this, of
course you'd be willing to sacrifice one of those diehard
Pittsburgh Steelers fans for your own benefit.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You selfish jerk.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And the last thing I'll throw in there is this
is why NFL stadiums want to go to domes. However,
of course, the only people who couldn't figure that out
is the LA Rams because they build a stadium that
somehow feels like a dome but it's not.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, and they can still have a weather delay.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
So kudos to you, La, the Krokeys and everyone in
California who made that stadium possible that it could be
covered yet there could still be a weather delay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You have one shocking Yeah, what a way to go
out there. You imagine being the one Yahoo who gets
struck by lightning at a Steeler game and they bury
you in Bubby Rister's jersey, Like I mean, if we're
going to do it, like, let's do it right, you
know what I mean? Like that, that's there's a way
to go out, and then there's that way to go out.
So for me, look, why why Bobby Brister? Well, I
don't know, maybe they're a throwback fan, you know, maybe
(07:13):
it's maybe it's somebody else, not Terry Bradshaw. Could be
Terry Bradshaw. That's fine.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I mean, are you really not going to hype up
TV in this case?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, listen, it could be Terry Bradshaw the TV. Look,
it could be Jeff Reid. It could be like one
of the jerseys Jeff Reed. Yeah, like any of those guys,
Like any of those guys, you want to wear that
jersey while you're out there potentially getting struck by lightning,
So be it. It's not gonna happen. It's a long shot.
We've always been honest too.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't think the players want to be out there
during that, So you're more concerned with the fans. Do
you think some of the players like Dak Prescott, who
are making sixty million a year want to be out
there for that?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
What's he doing like holding up like a giant metal
rod in the air, just like, oh, come give me
your best shot. Like, no, we're out there playing football.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Let's go, man, I don't play with lightning, all right,
Like that's the one thing in nature that well, I
guess I'd say like hurricane storm serves that sort of thing.
Which thoughts and prayers to all those in the west
coast of Florida, really all throughout Florida.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
We know North Carolina has been hit hard.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Thoughts and prayers with them, but man, they've got another
hurricane coming, so feel feel terrible for them.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But man, I don't mess with.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Nature like that.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'll just put it that way. Hey, you could go
out there get struck by lightning if you want. I
think LeVar is with me on this.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, yeah, stay safe, Ye got to stay safe, man,
you know, you know, stay safe?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You know, yeah, I gotcha.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
That defeats the purpose of living, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So it's a great it's a great point. Now a
little distraught over the the the loss.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Yeah, yeah, what a disheartening.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What do you think is more likely to happen next?
Getting struck by lightning or the Steelers having a decent offense?
What do you think is uh is more likely? And
have it?
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Definitely now opens up the conversation. I said this before.
If they have poor performances on the offensive side of
the ball, which they haven't had explosive, explosive games on
the offense, it has looked as though Justin Fields has
(09:24):
gotten more comfortable being out there handling the offense as
the starter. But they haven't been amazing, you know, on offense,
and so they needed to keep winning. And then even
though you know it might have been ugly, which even
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if they had won last evening and it was close
enough for them to win, it would have been an
ugly win. Considered to be an ugly win, you still
keep the conversations and the whisp at a minimum. Now
that you lose a game the way that they did
last evening, it just it fuels the fire of having
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a quarterback in the wings that in your mind you're saying,
can he make us a better offense? And that's now
going to continue to be the conversation. Is this is
this a move that should be made when Russell Wilson
is able to play?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And so.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
That's that's going to be a reality. That's what you know,
those are going to be the questions that Mike Tomlin
is going to have to answer. And that's going to
be a question that probably exists in.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Not only the media's heads, but it's going to be.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
A question that exists possibly in some of the players
that are on this.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Team's head as well. And how does your.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Team, how did your team move forward in a healthy manner?
If that's the situation that you're facing, well, I think
that's where Steelers.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Are right now.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They turned to Kyle Allen. I don't know if anybody
had that before the season that Kyle Allen would get
a snap before Russell Wilson in the regular season, but
that did happen last night after Justin Fields went down
to get checked. Now, Mike Tomlin did speak postgame about
the state of his team the close game, and he
(11:31):
had a really, really great way to put it.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
And I just told the team there's a fine line
between drink and wine and squashing grapes in our business.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
And you know, that's an example of it.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
You know, that ball is on the ground right there
in the red area, and that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know what's funny about he's not lying by And
when that happened, I was like, Oh, Pittsburgh's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
By the way is over. That's one of the better
plays I've ever seen at the goal line via Landon
Roberts diving over the divingo over the line like that,
the old LeVar leap. That for it reminded me of
old school football. Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
That was fun.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You know, you know it's funny. This is this is
before your time. You didn't pay against Reggie Bokshitt, Notre Dame. Right,
that was before you, LeVar.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, I'm way older than you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Reggie Brooks, no Reggie Brooks to me. Yeah, yeah, that's
I thought.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
So.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
There was a snowball game though against Penn State against Yeah,
and there's like an iconic photo.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Do you remember this scene the head photo of it top.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, And so, like I whenever I go, I always
think about that photo when I see like moments like that,
and I'm like, man, I feel like that's almost not
even like allowed nowadays, Like depending on the contact you
would have had, like they'll probably try to outlaw it
at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But that's what makes football what it is.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That was an unbelievable play, one of the best of
the entire weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, it was awesome, But you know it didn't matter
because Dak Prescott does what he does, comes up clutch,
and that's.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
What you're going with.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
That's what I'm going with.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
It's a painful loss when a Steelers fan has to
hear that they lost to a few teams and Dallas
is one of them.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
It's just not.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
It's just not something that sits well with Steeler fans.
I'll speak as a fan first in this moment, it's
it's not something that.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
We're okay with. The Raiders are one of those teams. Uh.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
There's just like teams, a few teams that, outside of
knowing the obvious of what's in the AFC North, the
teams that you just shouldn't lose to. There are a
few teams that historically, you know, tradition, legacy, you know, wise,
you just should not lose to that team based upon
(13:54):
things that have happened in the past. And Dallas is
one of those teams. And and so I'm sure there
are a lot of pissed off fans in Pittsburgh this morning,
me and myself, I overslept because I was upset. I
stayed up to watch that as and I had to
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go to sleep thinking about the fact that our Pittsburgh
Steelers lost such a close game, and there was a
tad bit, maybe a touch of depression that that was
a part of how I felt.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
When calls it that, oftentimes too, he will call his
his rationale for his actions.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He will also say it's.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
It's because he's sad an act of depression.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's what we will call it.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Sometimes interesting.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
See, thanks buddy, Hey, buddy, appreciated, Buddy.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well, it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you. So we are gonna have the usuals
coming up later on. We do have another edition in
case you missed it. Later on this hour. We're also
going to have an FSR I RS. We discussed the
long weekend for the crew here on Fox Sports Radio,
and we'll close up shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers, which,
(15:21):
by the way, is running on fumes, Running on fumes.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
We have tried a lately last chance today, Pal, you
got me, don't mess this up.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You're coming off a weekend. You still have a lot
more stuff and leftover. Berny Brady, you gotta understand what
you're talking to Lee. Last call for Lee's Leftovers, Last call,
and we will figure out whether or not there is
a for alcohol e not for food for alcohol.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So yesterday there were a lot of matchups where players
were facing their ex team and that was sort of discussed,
and you know, Sam Darnold playing the Jets, DJ Moore
playing the Panthers, oh and Stefan Diggs playing the Buffalo Bills,
and that was the big, juicy one that everyone was
looking forward to. And somehow, some way Buffalo ended up
(16:24):
getting back of that game. But man, oh man, Josh
Allen did not look good. And I don't know, I
just assumed that when he hit his head on the
turf the way that he hid it was a quick
concussion protocol saying, like, is that one of those examples
of somebody who might have finagled their baseline test because
(16:45):
he came back in and afterwards they were talking about
a rolled ankle and I'm looking at the plague on.
I mean, I guess he kind of did roll his ankle,
But he bounced his head off the turf like that
that was the real story there. It looked like he
got knocked out for a second. Yeah, was that how
you saw it? And for some reason, I don't know,
he was bad. I just assumed he would be out
(17:05):
and he wasn't. He came back in and finished the
game and did not look all that hot.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
And they still lost. Put him back in and they
still lost.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
So Stephon Diggs felt good about it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like that was the one storyline.
I mean, obviously Diggs getting his revenge tour, you know,
let him in receptions. But the Stroud to Nico Collins
connection is unbelievable. I'm still like trying to I mean,
coming into the season, I did not think Nico Collins
would have be having the year he's having right now.
But it's just big play after big play. I feel like,
(17:42):
if you're a Michigan fan, you're like, where the hell
was this back when he was in college.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I mean, he always had the ability to be this, but.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
It's been incredible to see his growth as a wide receiver,
but also the chemistry between him and c J. Stroud
where they're connecting it. It feels like every single week
for some sort of big play.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And now he's got a ham string issue so he
might he might miss some time for them. But yeah,
there was the awkward exchange postgame as well too. That
people noted where Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs shook hands
and then Stefan Diggs gave him kind of a side eye.
You know, just it's clear, you know there's there's some
(18:19):
issues there.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I'm just saying, man, there we go.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
There's problems.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But he didn't wap him up, LeVar. He shook his hand,
shook his hand. That gives you any indication of things?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
He Riley mossed him.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Not Randy mus understandable, understandable.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That a big difference.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Wow, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
All right, So what about the decision making for the
Bills deep in their own territory, at their own three
What the hell was that you just take three shots
down like that?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I mean, it up for Suseton to have a shot
to win it if you don't complete any of those balls.
And obviously, look we can always look back in hindsight
and question the decision because they lost. But I just
I don't know, man, I would have I would have
thought they released me run the ball, do something to
take away some time off the clock backed up like that.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So Sean McDermott did speak about the decision making there
late in the game from his own three and had
this to say, tough situation. You know they're holding three timeouts.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
Like I said, they get a good field, real kicker,
and you know, you go back and forth. I probably
should have run it on the first play, and just
because said, hey, where are we now. Either way we're
probably going to have to move the chains one time
right to not give them a chance. But again, those
are those are situations, and.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That's on me. Yeah, it was brutal, I mean to
his point.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
That's the hard part about it is you'd like to
be able to run one play, take away one time out,
and then reassess. If you get a three yard four
yard game, you're you're on track, you run the ball again,
you take away other time out, more time. There will
be a little bit more time off the clock, but
more importantly, you know, another time out of way, and
then maybe you're.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know, more than third and manageable.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Because the other thing is too the type of pass
plays you're calling could be a different pass play where
you know, yeah, you're throwing it, maybe you end up
short or you don't get it and in a third
and four, third and three, but it still keeps the
clock running to have three straight incompletions, I just you
provide them an eternity to make a play. That's too
much time for CJ.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Stroud And that's a head coach's decision. Or is that
the OC like, is he like, no, give us a chance?
Or because I would assume a defensive coach you'd want
to play it safe, and that just wasn't safe.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Ultimately, the clock management was gonna fall in the head coach.
You know, he should be overseeing all of that. So
that's gonna it's gonna be his decision as far as
what do you want to do here? And so if
he gives them the green light because he's saying, hey,
we have to get a first time, we have to
move the chains. Obviously they're gonna be stacking the box
expecting them to run, so you're not. You're gonna have
a better look to throw you are to run. It's
just it didn't work out three times in a row,
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which by the time you're on third down, you're stuck.
You're in that position where you have to throw the
football in order to try to get that first down.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean, what do you think of the Houston Texans
thus far this year, because it's not I mean, they're
four and one.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
They're a good team.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I think they're one of the best teams there.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
They're good. Yeah, they're a good team.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I mean it's not like they look great in these games.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
They haven't had to. I mean, you're not always going
to look perfect for all four quarters. I mean they
found a way to win for those games for some
stiffer opponents at times.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And look, I think they're.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Just hitting kind of the cusp of what they're capable of.
Still a young team, so they're a team that it
sits now at four and one, But I think as
they build towards the rest of the season and they're playing
some of their best ball in November December, you're gonna
be looking at this team as a contender in the AFC.
I'm just telling you, this is one of those teams
I would not want to see in the playoffs. I
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just I think they're dangerous that with the combination of
everything they have, they can on the football, they can
create big plays in the passing game, Strouds clutch, and
you've got a defense too that can make plays as well.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So it's a it's one of the rare teams.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They asked, I look at and I kind of think, yeah,
they've They've got all the components to make a run.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
That was a quality win they got yesterday. And I
don't think anyone can deny that, because this Buffalo Bill's
team is a good team. That's not a bad team
that they beat. That's a good team. And so when
you get quality wins, you rack up quality wins, you
rack up more credibility in terms of having the conversation
(22:33):
of how good the team is, how good can the
Texans be. I don't know that we know what they're
ceiling looks like yet, but I think we have a
good idea that last year was not a fly by
night or overnight success type of story.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
They've cooled off, so to speak.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
They've figured out the Mik o'ryans and what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
CJ.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Stroud, he's cooled off, Like, No, this is a good team. Uh,
they're they're well coached.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
They seem to have the belief that they can win games.
And that doesn't seem like that's going anywhere. It looks
like this is a team that is going to be
one that you have to deal with and you have
to contend with every single time their their name pops
up on your schedule.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It also helps her in the AFC South because that
divisions are very good at all.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Joe, I don't think it would matter.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I think they would be a problem in any division
that they're in, just the way they're built to play like,
personnel wise, the way they go through the games. It's
a very balanced team. Man, It's a very very balanced
team on both sides of the ball. And I think
(23:58):
they would be a tough a tough contender, a tough
team no matter what division they're they're in, and they're
going to be a team that you got to watch
out for, you know, you get into later in the
year and into the playoffs, it's going to be a
team that you're going to have to watch out for
if they continue on the trajectory that they're on right
(24:18):
now in that division.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I'm watching Joe Flacco yesterday and I'm thinking of myself
a couple of things Joe Flacco, Like, number one, how
was that guy? How was that guy not on a
roster to start last year? And number two, how many
teams would be better if he were their quarterback right now?
In the NFL, like there are a few of them
(24:41):
out there, Like he's been fantastic. It's Flacco just slinging.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
It the blue in I mean, well.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
We could probably go through them like Las Vegas now
they benched start him inshry yesterday.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Can we get some game show music here to go
along with this extra? That's true? Like let's let's let's
get some Joe Flacco love here. So any sort of
a game show music or would that be like PoCA,
some sort of East Coast music?
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You think so? He's the East Coast guy, right? And
what's Delaware originally? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I think it went the pit originally?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Then Delaware, yeah, correct, and then it was God who
was the quarterback that they had there? Yeah, And Dave
Wants had told a story that he made up an
award to try and keep Joe Flacco there for.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Like that's classic Waning, classic one. And he's a Jersey
guy though, right.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And but apparently Flacco's dad was like, no, we've already
got our sight set on Pitts are on Delaware. So
they were off and run home, all right. So here
we go show music, all right, So we'll go each
team at a time would they be better with Joe
Flacco as their starting quarterback?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
All right?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
The Buffalo Bills No, no, no, The Miami Dolphins, yes,
I think currently and.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
All right, I don't know. The New England Patriots yes, yes,
The New York Jets no sure, maybe.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yes, I had to play better than yesterday.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah yeah, no uh. The Baltimore Ravens No no, Cincinnati
Bengals no sorry, Brady Cleveland Browns yes, definitively yes. The
Pittsburgh Steelers, Oh yeah, I'm not ready to go there yet.
No field, the field has played pretty well. The Jacksonville Jaguars, oh.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yes, yes, nice when yesterday, But I mean I came
away more impressed with Flaka yesterday than Trevor Lawrence, so
I guess yes.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Uh. The Tennessee Titans, yes, yes, all right, I already
know your answer on the Texans. The Denver Broncos yes no, oh,
I don't think so it's Flacco not Kansas City, the Raiders,
yes yes, The Chargers.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
No no, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
No, the Dallas Cowboys no no. The New York Giants yes,
I don't know. Man, Daniel Jones is not being that bad,
so okay, and dump truck Nuts, Brian Daball, he deserves
a little bit of respect.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
They got one.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
By the way, did you see the technique that they
used on that block field goal? So they had Dexter
Lawrence pulled down the guard next to the long snapper,
and that allowed Isaiah Simmons a little more clearance to
jump over the guard in between him and the snapper,
because otherwise, if he touches the snapper, it's.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
An illegal play.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So and then it just so happens the ball bounces
perfectly office face mask into the ground and into what
was a Ford weed, and who ended up catching it
and running for the touchdown off the bounce. I mean
that was as well an execute special teams play as
I have ever seen.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
So would the Giants be better with Joe Flack quarterback? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Of course Philly.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
No, but right now?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No in Washington?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
All right?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
What about the Bears?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
No Ah, he played pretty good yesterday?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
He played Okay, he played pretty good. Uh, Lions, Packers, Vikings,
any of those teams. No, No, No, No, which which,
by the way, best division in football? Speaking of respect,
then North, the Atlanta Falcons, No no, Carolina Pan Yes, yes, yes,
the New Orleans Saints or Tampa Bay Buccaneers. No, no, no, uh,
(28:40):
the Arizona card No, the l A Rams, yes, no,
he's not. Stafford's not playing with much. The Niners and
the Seahawks, No, no, and no. Okay, So we're looking
at at least like close to ten teams that Joe
fl if he should be wacko for Flacco and just
(29:05):
out there slinging.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
What if we had the same conversation about tann and
Hill Tannehill.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
The problem is we haven't seen Tannehill play this year.
That's the difference. Like we've seen Fla last year.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Some of these other quarterbacks play true, true, So would you.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I would need to see the other side of the
conversation too, Like like we saw Flacco play last year,
helped the Browns of the playoffs. I still can't get
over the fact that the Browns were a playoff team
last year.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
They look so.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Far horror from that. They look they and and he
was just saying like an a.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Like there's people out there who are like, oh, there's
the Jerry Judy draftan end zone. Okay, like go back
and watch this is the first time be overly critical
of the quarterback play because he invites the protection.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Issues they have right now. He invites it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
There's times where he he scrambles from a clean pocket
instead of staying in the pocket and gets sacked or
ends up throwing duress. And there's some just errant throws.
I mean absolutely, guys, open errant throws. It's getting to
the point where I think I'm not the only person
who feels this way. But why wouldn't you put Jamis
in there, Like, why wouldn't you give Jameis Winston a
(30:20):
chance just to go in and see if you can't
provide this offensive spark. It doesn't have to be for
the rest of the season, but it can be for
a period of time. And I know we sent the
clip earlier about like Watson walking off the field when
they called a time out. It was taken out of
context for some people out there on social media who
were trying to make it look like he was quitting
on the team. They had twelve men in the huddle,
(30:41):
so they had to take a time out otherwise they
were gonna be penalized anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So you know, they end up taking the delay of
game in.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That case for a field goal. So the whole thing
was a bit of a debacle. But that being said,
that was one of the worst overall all around performances
the Browns have hadden quite some time. That's hung in
there for a little bit in the first half, and
then it just felt like they'd given up because.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
They know their offense can't score enough points.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They're not changing quarterbacks, they are not that's not happening here. Yeah,
they just he said along the lines of I've got
a coach better, We've just got to play better. Okay, well,
I mean a.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Lot better, a lotch their showed up somewhere before then.
It is it is terrible to watch this team now.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Can people just under Deshaun Watson hasn't been good for
over three years.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
He hasn't been good at all.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yes, So at what point is it like, yeah, this
is what he is, Like it's done and they're just
stuck with it, like they just have to wear it. Okay,
Like you got completely outplayed by Jayden Daniels and jayde
Daniels has been in the NFL for twenty minutes, Like
like what are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
How many minutes?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Twenty damn maybe twenty five, but yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Is uh, boy is dealing what about and delt it.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Delt it to them Browns, what about that was in
the I'm hungover right now.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I was in.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I was in was.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
We have not been able to notice this, LeVar. We
have not been able to notice this at all. You
don't say, yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
I've been in Zimbie's. I was in zombies the whole time.
It was wonderful. It's a it's a commander's bar. Lots
of LeVar islands were flowing.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Yeah, a lot of happiness, a lot of happiness.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You guys were like, oh my.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Gosh, look at them, look at it. Look at him,
Look at him, Look at dan Quinn, Look at these guys,
look at Daniels.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Go, we finally have a team.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
You know how many Redskins fans said, we finally excuse me, commanders,
you know what I mean, commanders fans that we finally
have a team.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
You know, I loved about it.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
There was a clip too of Daniels kind of running
back by Cliff Kingsbury in the sidelines and he said
to him like, hey, let's take a shot.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
They're playing man and Cliff trusts him.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I mean, think about he's a rookie Cliff's been a
head coach and in the league, He's called plays in
the league and he's he said, they're going, all right,
let's do it, and they dialed up literally, Daniel store
is an absolute dime for a touchdown pass the next play,
and that is the type of stuff you can build on.
I think it's also speaks to the environment like dan
Quinn's created as a head coach and just from being
(33:29):
around him, you know about a little over ten years ago.
Dan Quinn was always the type of coach that listened
to his players. He has a great communication with his players.
He wants them to feel a part of what's happening
on the team, the decisions that they make. It's not
just the head coach and there's some division. He is
the type of guy that listens and really takes into
account what they're seeing out there in the field. So
(33:51):
it is pretty neat to kind of see that. But
it's it's it's gonna be fun to watch this team
the rest of the season. It just it's whether or
not they can sustain what they're doing right now. Because
the one concern I have for Washington and the injury
bug hits everyone at certain points in the season. They
don't have a ton of depth, so they start losing
a few key guys here and there. Can they overcome that?
That's still a question they're gonna have to answer at
(34:12):
some point.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
So we opened up the show talking about the scene
last night at hind or Acupuncture Stadium, whatever it is.
Apparently everybody scared of lightning in the Pittsburgh area, so
they had to delay the kickoff an hour and twenty
and throw everybody's evening and mornings off. Elsewhere in the
division was a phenomenal game between the Bangles and the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Best of the day.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
You're going at it?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That was that was That was fun.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
And they let them off the hook. Had it? They
let it get away.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Damn it.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
That knew who we knew who we knew who they were.
You know, I want to crown the crown.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Tell you what, when Jamar Chase makes plays like you
did yesterday, I sit there and go, man, if you're
if you're Cincinnati, you know you have to pay that man.
Like you know that that bill is coming and it's
due at the end of the season. I mean, what's
that deal going to look like? I mean, thirty million
per year minimum.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean, Jefferson's getting thirty five. I mean, is there
is he get a top that at the end of
He's yeah, I mean yeah, that's him and him and
Joe Burrow when they're on, they're on, and uh, it
looked great for a while, and then all of a
sudden made it even look great after you know, the
fumbled snap in overtime and then Evan McPherson lines up
(35:39):
for the game winning kick and Ryan Rico, nice work,
Bud way to go, way to hold that snap really
screwed me. I would have gone perfect again in Knox
locks two weeks in a row, two weeks in a row.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Because of that I got screwed. And that damn hook
the the Bengals plus two and a half, but because
of the kicking overtime got completely screwed.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
We all feel really bad for you, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You should, I mean you really should.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I mean, at least it was a better snap than
the Dolphins game.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
They had a nice little one that rolled back there.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
So is it over for Cincinnati this year? I feel
the same way about the emisode Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I have a right, it's Burrow, it's Chase, it's a
team that I have a hard time throwing the towel now.
I mean, I'm more after throwing the towel in Cleveland
right now than I am.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Oh, that's a rap. That's been a rap. It's a
rap for Cinci. Now it's a rap for Ohio. Oh,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
So a lot of football left to be played.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Lear that you're trying to celebrate victory in the first
quarter of the season, just saying I'm.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Glad you are hopeful, and like you said in in
the opening, you know you're a guy who's a glass
half fool type of guy. I just happened to look
at that Ohio glass and say it's it's empty.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
It's not even half fool.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's well, they still got one big coming up, uh
in November two.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So yeah, Joe burrow was they stink. Joe Burrow is
both was very critical of the Ohio teams. They stink
of where the Bengals are at. Let's listen to the
Sincy quarterback.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
We're not a championship level team right now.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
We're not.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
You know, I like to think that, you know, we'll
come back and improve throughout the season to.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Get to that point. But right now, we are not
and we have to get better.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, they're there.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I mean that's a great sound bite. I'm glad we
had that on our on our list.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
I would agree to they stink.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
What's their record one? And what one in four m?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, Look, it's not ideal, and it's not ideal if
you had them going to the super Bowl out of
the AFC like some people did. Yeah, Jonas knocks. Hey,
Albert Beard did too, so take it up with him
when you have till Yeah, I talked him once a week.
He doesn't count. So yeah, that was not that was
(38:14):
your that was your rebuttal well, yeah, I gotta let her.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
You a tattletale man. You one of them dudes?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
You get caught, you get in trouble. But Albert did
it too.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I'm saying I wasn't alone. Albert Brier picked him too.
He did on the show.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
So that makes it better. That makes it better.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, it just makes me feel like a complete idiot.
You know, alber Bird knows what he's talking, so.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, I can be complete idiots together. Is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 6 (38:41):
No, I'm just asking like it doesn't make you feel
like a complete idiot because somebody did it with you.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I don't get it our three hour three of that
hangover and he took a turn to be mean.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Here, I'm sorry, damn yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, usually I want it sets in and you hit
a little angry.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
I'm hungry. I got a little belligerents in my voice.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
He used door dash. Use the code two pros twenty
four bound use door dash?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Really?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
They know that?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, send it on over, get you something spicy?
Speaker 5 (39:14):
How come I never knew that? Why do we not
know this door dash? Well? I know that.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Well it's your first purchase. So like, if you've never
used door are you being serious right now?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Are no?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I swear to god? Why do we not? Why are
we not aware of this? I don't know? Listen, I
must you know.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Because if we're not the star of the show. Q.
It's like it shows itself every once in a while
where where Jonas will say something or do something that
reminds us that you know, this is the Jonas knock
Show with two pros, you know, not not two pros
and a cup of jobs.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It's all right if you haven't used door dash, just
use it two pros twenty four. That's your code too, pros.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Never heard us? I did not really I realize that
was the thing.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You get you a little uh, get your a little
discount there, get something that is are you spelling out
the two or are you just the number? The number
two number two.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Two pros e r O S twenty four.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
I don't know where this has come from, but man,
all right.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
The thing Lee? Is this true?
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Is he messing with this leg.
Speaker 9 (40:19):
I'm just as flabbergacid as you, guys.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I'm checking my emails right now to say, see if
I missed something. What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Lee? Where did you get this information from? Jonas?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You gave me the spot when we did it? When?
I mean, look, I'm just letting everybody know.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
This is Why would you make it? Why would you
make this up? It is just your terrible sense.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I'm not making it up.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
You get this information?
Speaker 9 (40:45):
I did do this?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, Heyboddy, there you are.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
You weren't coherent when did this?
Speaker 9 (40:53):
How do we still have the two pros twenty four?
Or fifty percent off? Up to ten dollars fifty yeah,
up to ten dollar value?
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
When you spend fifteen.
Speaker 9 (41:03):
Dollars more on your first order time.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Tell you man, I remember now, I'm hungry as hell.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
If you don't have door dash, shut it up right now,
use two pros. Twenty four you.
Speaker 9 (41:12):
Get alcohol too, must be twenty one or over.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
I don't need alcohol.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, that's up, very the lead here.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
By the way, is this one of those things to
where you're going to give up drinking for a while, Like,
is it one of those hangovers?
Speaker 6 (41:24):
I'm done forever. This was too much between Saturday and yesterday.
I'm just I'm done. I now remember what it's like
to be a Western Pennsylvanian, and I'm not. I'm not
okay with it. I'm done. I give up. Yeah, there
(41:44):
you go.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Hey, you know what, it was a good run.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
It was a good run. It was a good while
it lasted. Yeah, it's over, Johnny, Yeah it's over, Jack.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's a wrap.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
No more.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Not the way I feel right now, Not the way
I woke up feeling. No way, Nope, going, I ain't
gonna do it no more. Nope.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
When does the And I don't want to use the
word mutiny because you know that was already thrown around
when it comes to the Patriots and their quarterback situation.
But when does the I don't know, the divides start
to happen in Cleveland if this continues down this path,
because it's just it feels like it's getting worse every
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week and Stefanski's got to answer a bunch of questions
and there's really nothing they can do about it. You know,
they're trying to find little wins. Nick Chubb return to practice,
and it's but they just they do not look good
and it looks worse every week. And we were saying
this earlier of our Cleveland looks like one of the
worst teams in the NFL. Like not just underachieving, they
(42:48):
look like one of the worst teams.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
In the league.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
They are one of the worst teams in the league.
I don't just look it, they are it. I mean,
and I just I don't know why they're so bad.
And anticipating what they may be this season, I just
(43:12):
continue to feel as though Deshaun Watson has to prove
to his teammates, to the fans, to the media that
he can be something different than what he's been in
seasons past. For them, the potential of its has existed
because his personnel as Q highlights so much and so well.
(43:37):
His personnel says that the results should be drastically different,
but they're not. And then we're talking about a coach
who I believe wasn't he a Coach of the Year
last year?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah? Yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
You saw an offense operate at a different level when
there was a different quarterback in there. And it just
bags the question of is Deshaun Watson's participation and presence
on this team dragging this team down? Is he a
quick saying quarterback? And that's the feeling I get when
(44:19):
I watch this team is there they are attached to
the hip of Deshaun Watson, for good or for bad,
and you're seeing what the results of him not being
more than what he has been being the results of
why this Cleveland Browns team.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
And I mean, there are.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
Other things that they're struggling with, but I think it
ultimately falls It falls on the fact that you're not
getting stellar, you're getting subpart played from the quarterback position
for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
It's the one thing holding them back and you have
to here's the here's the issues.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
We've already heard from Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
They're not making a quarterback change, even though I think
it would be good for the team, the locker room,
everyone to try to find a spark. This offense seems lifeless.
I mean, forget about the Aaron throws or him leaving
clean pockets and inviting more pressure than there actually is.
And are their offensive line missqu Sure they're banged up,
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the wide receivers dropping some balls. Sure that happens everywhere.
It's not like there's a greater clip in Cleveland than
there is on other teams. He is playing awful and
they need a spark, but Stefanski doesn't want to do it,
or the organization doesn't want to do it. So there's
there's going to be someone's going to take the fall
for this. I don't you know. The hard thing is
(45:45):
like Ken Dorris is the Sea? Is Ken going to
I hope not.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
I know Ken.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
I think he's a good coach, and I don't think
he has anything to do with it.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Is Kevin Stefanski going to a year after being the
coach of the year, a year after this team going
to the playoffs with the four string quarter you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I mean, even the defense is.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Getting worn down where they're not looking like the defense
that Jim Schwartz led last year, even though they're tremendously talented.
It it's hard when you see an NFL team like
this that makes one bad decision, and because of the compensation,
because of the contract, because they dug their heels in
when they made the decision to go after a guy
(46:24):
that probably hasn't played his best football in five years now,
since twenty nineteen. And they've now put themselves in this
position where that they can move on or they don't
want to move on and admit the mistake. That's just stubbornness, man.
And that's the hard part is right now, this is
this team is a shell of itself from where it
(46:45):
was two.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Hundred and sixty seven days ago. It's sad to see.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Do you think that the front office has already told
him you can't bench him, like you have to figure
this out. He's your quarterback under no circumstances because as
a coach, aren't they kind of hand cuffing him to
this guy when stefans he's looking around.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah, I think they handcuff him when they signed him.
How do think Stefanski wanted them then? I mean that's
just the truth. Like, if not that the time would
have worked out. But if you would have gave Stefanski
the pick of which you know quarterback he wanted to
go get or try to get, I don't know that
he was wild about the decision to bring him on,
(47:24):
and so now he's even more handcuff with him.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
They need to do something.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
I'd rather benching and go out with a blaze of glory,
like if y'all it, I'm gonna go out my way,
and I'm gonna see what we can do with Jamis.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
I'm gonna see what we can do.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
Going in a different direction because I'm not I'm not
saving my job by keeping them in here, which y'all
telling me to keep them in the game anyway. So
I'm damned if I do. I'm damned if I don't.
So I'm gonna at least go out winning, like what
they fired me for winning. I put in a different
quarterback and I got fired for winning. I don't think.
(48:02):
So they better do something because they stink ain't a
good team, and it don't look like they're trending in
a different direction, like like they're almost there, like they're
right there at it, they're close to being a good team.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
It's not a good team. It's not a good team, man.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, it's a rough way to go for the Cleveland
Browns right now. But you know it's a horrid.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
Lee.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
What would you do if you're the Cleveland Browns?
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Lee?
Speaker 9 (48:32):
What would I do if I were the Cleveland Browns?
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (48:36):
Yeah, what would I do? I would just I would
just start drinking.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
That's what I can't.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
I can't even judge you this morning.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
What everyone's thinking.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
So I don't know.
Speaker 9 (48:52):
Men, Hey, buddy, trade Cooper away, get something for him.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Why are you trade a wear your best? Call it
a day, call it a round, just give it up,
give it on it. Yeah, yeah, that's uh. They're they
are brutal, and they're like not competitive. Like that's the
other thing, Like there's like they're just not in the
Like that game wasn't closed yesterday, Like, who do you
feel better about? Carolina Panthers? Are the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
It's over for the Panthers too.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
That's a rap, Carolina, Carolina. I don't let's say Bryce
Bryce Young got some burn time yesterday.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
Of course he did.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Did you see Dave Canalis talking after the game, like
the entire reason why Bryce Young got burn time was
because they had injuries on the offensive line and they
didn't want Andy Dolton to play behind. And about banged
up offensive line, Think about how fast Bryce Young goes
(49:58):
from being the first overall pick, a guy that they
tried to build around, do everything around, and now he's
getting playing time to play behind it banked up offensive
line her.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
So now Bryce Young's gone from number one overall pick
to the windshield of Andy Dalton.
Speaker 5 (50:19):
Winshield.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
You get bugs which squashed that flipped so quick it
begs the question, like, think about how the season started off,
how fast they made the transition, and now they're already
here to Dalton. You have to be asking yourself like,
did you just waste the entire offseason then preparing something
that you ultimately didn't believe in.
Speaker 5 (50:39):
Don't sucked in the game, like that's a rap.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
He didn't play well in this one, but he has
provided a spark at times for the I do wonder
if there was like that, you know, dead cat bounce back.
It's kind of the phrase if they got that from
Dalton initially and then now it's like the resorted back
to they're just not a good football team.
Speaker 5 (50:59):
They beat the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Yeah, Raiders aren't good either.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah, they're not even close to being good.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
I mean, Sean Payton was in his bag. There's guys
running wide open around the the secondary for Denver, there's
dropping balls left and right.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
It could have been worse. It should have been worse.
The Raiders are so bad. White cornerbacks are coming up
with interceptions. Emilia that I ought to tell you're.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
Not gonna hit the button mark never hit the way.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's a factual statement.
Speaker 4 (51:30):
Yeah, that's it's not.
Speaker 8 (51:33):
Me.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
It's a white guy talking about a white guy.
Speaker 5 (51:35):
Yeah, geez, I can say that it's white on white crime. Geese.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Aring.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Okay, he just be a cornerback, Jonas, Okay, he just
be a cornerback that was getting getting interceptions.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
I didn't make them know what are the other colors?
What's the other cornerbacks color? What color are they? I mean?
Speaker 2 (51:58):
In the words of the great Rovert Flores black dog,
yeah all them by the way, you see, speaking of Roberto, I.
Speaker 5 (52:08):
Was losing his mind on text.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
I love well, I love his Uh. He goes to Twitter.
So in the Dodgers Padres game last night, Jackson Profar
the out uh for the Padres.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
You know, he mocked the fans and then they were
throwing baseballs at him. Not great, not a great look
for the Dodger fans. But like Roberto, just goes straight
to the point, like he doesn't mess around, there's no hashtags,
there's no nothing, goes straight to X and just writes
Profar is a bitch and that's it. Just let it
(52:43):
fly and uh and and off your guy, yeah Flores.
Speaker 5 (52:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
So hopefully things go better in Game three for the
Dodgers
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