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October 15, 2024 39 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Bills beat the Jets in a Monday Night Football game marred by penalties. A shakeup in the BQ Top 15. Plus, Pete Prisco from CBSSportsHQ stops by for his weekly visit.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar arrings rating Win and Jonas Knox on
Fox Floors Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, just have tires on them so they can land.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Can I just say this? Can I just say this
before we get into the nuts and bolts of the game.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
What you want to say?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Damn, sometimes the officials make it a tough watch. You know,
twenty two penalties that I was.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Hoping they would throw more. Honestly, I just I couldn't
get enough flags. I could not get enough penalties involved
in this game.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
That s was absurd.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, it's like you can't even get like a like
a watching rhythm going let alone. I don't know how
these teams are performing knowing that you're just gonna be
set back and set back and set back. More laundry
on the field, set back now their flag. It's just
at a certain point it feels like they're just trying
to get involved just for the sake of.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
That sacked though, that roughing the passer on the sack.
That that's that's an all time low. It's an all
time low. I'm sorry. If you're listening, and I know
I'll be having people from the league offices listening to
our show and what we'd be having to say, Hey, look,
that's an all time low, guys, that's it's an all
time low.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
And is it an all time low?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
That's it's an all time low. It's the it's it
might be it might be the lowest moment ever in
the history of the game. Really, I'm not like, and
I'm not even joking. You took a quarterback who still
has the ball in his hands, and you took them

(01:54):
to the ground and you got a roughing the passer penalty.
It might be the low It's a moment in the
history of football.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I would say the only one in contention maybe roughing
the passer? Wise, was it Chris Jones on Derek Carr
a couple of years ago where he stripped the ball
and went to the ground and still got called for
roughing the pass That.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Was a bad one too. Both on my bad one too,
both Monday night games. It was a bad one. This
was a lower, this all time low. Entertaining game. Though
entertaining game, I mean you could tell these were two
teams that knew they needed to win the game and
wanted to win the game different reasons. One instill the
superior team in the in the division. The other is

(02:39):
trying to overcome dysfunction and trying to win right now
for Woody Johnson, and they both needed to win, and
they both played like they wanted to win.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean it was a tight game. They were
the two top teams in the division. I don't know
that anyone's going to dispute that based on how the
game went. What's interesting about it is had the Jets won,
they would have been a top of the.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
FCS, which is crazy, right, Like.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
With all the conversation, everything that's gone on since then,
and if Robert Salaz still there as their head coach,
does it make a difference one way or another.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I mean, I don't know. I don't think it did.
I don't think it does at all, to be honest,
I think those guys played their asses off last night.
They wanted to win that game. And listen, when you
get an interim head coach, you know the one thing
that players do in that first game out They played
their asses off. Yep, they played their asses off and
they might get a win that they might not have

(03:35):
got otherwise. They played hard last night. It was entertaining
you saw Aaron Rodgers playing at a high level. They
actually look like they can be competitive moving forward, and
so maybe it does bring justification of what it is

(03:56):
that they did. But to me, they only made change
is that we were made aware of that that Robert
Salob was going to make anyway, right, They didn't make
any other any other movements that were different from what
we heard Robert Salob was about to do in terms
of what they were going to do on.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Off it You think Robert Solo was watching the game
going hold a second, like why am I out? Like
I was trying to make that that switched the entire
time I tried to make an app on Tuesday. In
five minutes later, I got to scored it out by security.
And you know who let them down in the end,
their defense, their defense left. I mean, in my opinion that.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Their defense let let the Bills off the hook.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
The the interception at the end to Mike Williams. I
know the ball was a bit underthrown. He's got to
make that play. I mean, if there's one acquisition that
I think has kind of come up disappointing, it's probably
been Mike Williams for them. I really thought he would
be more imposing on the outside, add a nice one

(04:59):
to two nomination, or at least a compliment to Gara Wilson,
and that has not been the case. The other thing
is that if we look at the score, I mean,
they scored on a hill, Mary, you know, maybe the
score is not of vindicative of how close it was.
But here's what we can say. The Jets move the
ball better, but it still wasn't good enough to be

(05:21):
the top of their division, at least at this point.
So now they've got to figure out how to rebound
and put this whole thing back together. But they've got
their work cut out for them, and they really do.
And I'm curious the mindset of the players on this
team because after this year, there's there's so many things

(05:42):
in question. Does Rogers come back, who's the head coach
going to be? I don't imagine it'll be Jeff Rowlbrook
may maybe I'm wrong, maybe they'll end up hiring him.
But when there's questions like this around a team and
its future, you know what players start doing. They start
thinking about themselves. And that's a dangerous path or thought

(06:06):
process for a team that can't afford to think about
anything other than the team and figure out how to
win and get get their way back into this thing.
But that's what happens when you start losing football games.
People start losing hope, they start going in self preservation mode.
That's my concern for the Jets if they can't start
getting some wins and going a little run here.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Roger spoke after the game, clearly frustrated, discussed.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Who were blaming it on this week.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, I discussed how big of a loss this was
and also the officiating it has been.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
The reps need to be held oft gours.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Ok, we need to get going. This was a goal
and opportunity. Some games you win in the NFL and
some games you give away. This was a giveaway. I
mean we were terrible in the red zone, missed two
field goals. I did not convert on a two minute
drive with plenty of chances, had the momentum, had drives

(07:00):
moved them all up and down the field. You know, again,
this is should have been a thirty plus point game
on offense and this shouldn't even be a conversation. Yeah,
it seemed a little ridiculous. Yeah, some of them seemed
really bad, including the rough in the past around me,
that's not rough in the passers, play sar cast the ball,

(07:20):
if we're going to call those things. And I thought
the one on kin Long was not rough in the passer.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Either, So there you go, Var. I mean, here's what
I'll say to this. He did throw the kicker under
the bus right there. He did throw We should which
they should have made the field goals. That is true.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
And listen, if Zerline makes the kick against Denver, you know,
that's that's another game they could have if if if you.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Know, hand grenades and and horseshoes.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
My guy, why don't you stop dancing on our graves here?
All right, we're holding out. I'm not dancing on here.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm not. They're two and three. There's still the hope
in the chance that they can do what it is
that you said they can, which is make the playoff.
I don't think they're going to make the playoffs, but
there's the chance that they can make the playoffs. Now
here's the key. And I think he touched on two
and four actually, and yeah, yeah, it's even bleaker. Sorry

(08:15):
to yes tune four. Listen if they Aaron Rodgers saying
they need to get it going is that is a understatement.
If they don't get it going, like as in get
it going. Now what Q just said before we did
the sound bite, self preservation kicks in business, decisions are made,

(08:40):
and you will see this team totally implode. That's where
that's if they don't get it going and they don't
get a good, feel good moment that can pull them together.
Winning this game last night could have been the catalysts.
I mean, we saw it happen in Las Vegas last year.

(09:01):
It led to AP being able to keep the job
and maintain and move forward with them. Getting this win
last night would have been big for them, super big
and who knows what that turns their trajectory into. But
they didn't. They didn't win, and now what they'll win

(09:22):
this next I think I said this, they'll lose this game.
They'll win the next one. They could win the one
after that, but they'll probably lose that one too. They'll
probably lose. They'll probably lose three out of their next
four games, this being the first one.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I mean, their next one is at Pittsburgh. You're picking
against us.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I didn't pick against them. I said there's the possibilit
which they looked pretty good last week, by the way,
they didn't look bad and they win. Yeah, they didn't
look bad and they're win. They might not win that one.
I said, it's a maybe they win that one. That's
the one they have a chance to win.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
School don't think they have a chance to win at Arizona.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, now seeing seeing seeing what the way they look now, Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
So they've got They've got Pittsburgh and New England next
on the road.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Before in New England it was New England. It's the
New England game. I said, they'll win. So I said,
they lose their first, their next two, then they'll win
their third. They could win against Pittsburgh. They'll probably beat
New England. But New England's gonna play them tough. It's
a divisional opponent. They're going to get played. Like imagine
we're sitting here saying. I'm saying that they'll play New
England and they'll beat New England, but there's the chance

(10:31):
that they may not beat New England because that's a
divisional opponent and not Those are the types of games
where it doesn't matter how bad a team is, they're
going to play the hell out of you and They're
going to play your hard, just like what we saw
last night. Just like what we saw last night. Even
though the Bills are a good.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Team, Jet your favorite at Pittsburgh right now. So one
and a half point favorite. I take that bet. I
take that. Well, what's the points spread?

Speaker 6 (11:00):
It?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
One and a half?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, I'm what I do. I'm money line them. I
bet you. I bet you the Steelers beat them. They
beat them. You don't need the dang being favorites. I
bet you the Steelers beat them.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, that was a not a great loss for the
Jets last night. Zer line those two kicks, just the penalties.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Rogers.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Can I ask you this, Brady on the hail Mary,
is there any skill at all.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Involved in what Rogers is doing?

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Or is it just throw it up there and it's
just coincidence that these guys are making place for him, And.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know it's all skill. I mean, it's it's technical,
it's skill. There's some spirituality involved in all that. Yeah, No,
I mean if I had to coach up a quarterback
on like what goes into it? You know, typically you're
not gonna take your normal drop. You know, usually guys
will take like a five step drop but the difference

(11:57):
is which in shotguns deep Okay, I mean you got
to step up, you got to hitch up into the pocket.
But you're not gonna hitch up once. You're gonna hitch
up twice. It's because that's second time, all right, that's
where you say the prayer before you throw the football
up there. So given the spirituality of one Aaron Rodgers,
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
You have a scale in spirituality that's not just skill
connected to that too, well, I'll handle this all right.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
The skill comes in the actual throw type of trajectory
to the football, almost like you're dropping a bomb, and
you need to be able to throw with a certain
height to allow everyone else to get in position. But
it's also got to drop with a perfect amount of
space not only for a potential catch, but tip to

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allow all involved to then make the play. So there's
a spirituality on the actual drop itself, skill on the
throw itself, and then there's just a sense of overall
or a knack for getting the ball off Like at
times when you're back there, how many times you see
guys drop back like all right, hill Mary times sack. Oh,
it's time for a hill Mary's sack. And they just

(13:08):
they can't figure out how to drop back and actually
throw the football. Rogers throws these moonballs like it goes
up into orbit and then it drops down with the
perfect amount of room and it hits the guy who's
actually the jumper. You know, there's a guy designated to jump.
He's really not even supposed to catch it. Catch it
if you can. Otherwise it's suposed to tip it. And

(13:29):
then one of the guys is supposed to be around
there either before, behind her in front to catch the tipball.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
We lost my last year in school.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
So that's where that's where Rogers combines his technical skills,
his skill in general, and his ability to throw the football,
but also the spirituality. And I don't know if it's
nyahuasca or what we want to point to, but he's
taken some spirit journeys and those journeys have led him
down a path of Hail Mary greatness.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
It was clean. It was clean, I mean just clean.
Catch went down Alan Lazarre way to close up the half.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
That's the thing about Wizard is he has a game
like last night, or he steps up and makes plays,
and then there's other games where he just he can't
seem to get into a rhythm, has some drops. He's
on the same page. It's all. Yeah, it's just it's
frustrating times.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
How about that guy dang throw where it went off
of the leg like they didn't even go out. It
was like almost like a gunshot, like he shot him
on the leg, hit the leg and went right into
the man's arms. That was lizard that caught that as well,
wasn't it. It was like third and fifteen or something
like that. Oh the tight throw where the guy had
his back to it was behind that. It didn't sneak underneath.

(14:39):
He threw that bad boy. I mean he threw it
in his chest what like there was nothing not the
dude I had to do other than be where he
was at. I think that was lizard.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
If they could just keep him up right, man, he
can still sling it, but it seems like he takes
longer and longer to get up now when he gets hit,
like they're just they're wearing him at out. And if
they got to see TJ. Watt next week, I mean,
good luck with that. Hey.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And by the way, Josh Allen played his ass off. Yeah,
he competed. He competed. May plays when he needed to
make plays, may throws when he needed to make throws.
I mean, they they they sputtered at times, but he
found the way.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
The story can't just be Rogers. I mean, yeah, Allen's
one of the best in the league for a reason.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
He showcased that last absolutely, by the way, because we
did take the whole segment talking about, uh, the fact
that dysfunction will always supersede skills functional dysfunction.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
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Speaker 2 (15:44):
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Speaker 3 (16:00):
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Speaker 3 (16:26):
Right now, get your asses ready to go because it's time.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
For this Who needs the AP Top twenty five.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
I'm just seeing things that I never thought existed when
you've got the BQ Top fifteen all right, heading into
Week eight of college football, the number one team stays
the number one team after the big win in the
Red River rivalry. Just to give some context too to
that victory, there's been thirteen times over the past I
think a few decades, there's been a double digit favorite

(16:56):
in that matchup, and the underdog has actually come out
eight of those times with a straight up win. So
you can kind of throw the spreads out. That's one
of the reasons why the dominant victory for Texas to
me was so meaningful in that one and really never
felt like Oklahoma had a shot at all. Quinn Yours
came back. He looked like he's feeling healthy and back
to the original spot there original part at number two,

(17:17):
a huge jump from last week's rankings. Wasn't a believer
in Oregon was overly impressed with what they had done
up to this past week. Oregon jumps from number eight
all the way up to number two with their win
over the Buckeyes in somewhat impressive fashion. Dylan Gabriel played
the game of his career and showed up in the

(17:39):
biggest moment, which is good things to come because they
finally got their outstanding wide receiver Evan Stewart involved as well.
They were the more physical team pushed around Ohio State
in particular in the running game. Didn't love the game
plan for Ohio State, but give Dan Lanning and their
coaches staff a ton of credit in particular in the
final moments of the game out smarting the Ohio State

(17:59):
buck guys. Next up Georgia at number three. Outside of
that half of football, I still think they're one of
the best teams in college football. They get the score
offers Texas this week, so someone's going to get bounced
from the top three from that point, but Georgia, despite
the loss Tobama, still is one of the best teams
in college football. At number four is Penn State. Nice

(18:21):
win on the road e versus Southern cal. They got
a big one coming up in a couple of weeks.
That's really the measuring stick for Penn State. They haven't
able to be able to get past Ohio State or
Michigan the fourte thing. They don't have to play Michigan
this year, just Ohio State in their house, So imagine
not winning that one and what that would mean for
their potential shot at a Big Ten championship. But I

(18:42):
still think they'll make the College Football Playoff regardless of
that based on their schedule. Right behind them at number
five is Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
They drop down to that.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Number five spot after the close loss on the road
to Oregon. Honestly, this is still the most talented team,
or one of the most talented teams. I think the
thing on both sides of the ball that was frustrating
was the scheme behind it. We can get into that
at a later date and maybe break it down a
little deeper. But the buck guys dropped to number five
after being number two just last week. At number six Miami.

(19:13):
Miami's still undefeated, still kind of holding it together. They've
been playing with fire at times, but cam Woods still
very much keeps them as a legit contender, so they
stay in the same exact spot. At number seven is Alabama,
Struggling but still finding a way to get the win.
Can't necessarily penalize them for that. However, it doesn't drop
from number four where they were just one week ago.

(19:35):
At number eight, Tennessee another team that I've been high
on all season long. They obviously suffered a tough loss.
They continue to keep kind of playing with fire at
this point, so I'm dropped them down from number five
last week. Now it's a number eight in these rankings
and sitting at number nine? Is Iowa State the best
team no one's talking about currently undefeated? They can run

(19:55):
the ball, they make plays in the passing game. It's
a salty defense. Quite possibly, there was parody of any
conference in the Big twelve. They have been able to
navigate it unscathed so far. We'll see if that continues.
At number ten, an team another team that we haven't
talked about after that opening game loss to Georgia to
start the season, as Clemson. They're up one spot right now.

(20:16):
They've really rebounded and their schedule sets up extremely soft.
They will be playing in the a SEC Championship game.
The way this thing's going up to number eleven from
number twelve is Notre Dame huge win over Stanford, However,
a little bit of a concern here. They lost their
best cornerback, Ben Morrison for the rest of the season
with a hip injury. But it does feel like the
offense is starting to hit their stride rather lenders getting

(20:39):
more comfortable in the passing game. But the defense now
has suffered injuries to four starters so far. Do they
have enough depth to overcome that, especially with some tougher
games coming out build the Tech this week on the
road at number twelve, we were just in Provo. BYU
moves up one spot, still undefeated for ever pretty dominant
win over Arizona. The score is a little closer that

(20:59):
it actually felt being there watching the game. Another goodness,
solid football team. Cladie Setaki's gotten playing well, very complimentary football.
Rets lot their quarterback and make plays with his legs
and his arm, and defensively they're opportunistic, they're tough against
the run, they don't allow big plays. This is going
to be a tough group and it's crazy to think,
but BYU for Saracenna State coming up, maybe helping to

(21:21):
dictate the picture of what the Big Twolve Championship looks like.
Number thirteen LSU. They jump up big time after their
win over Old Miss Good victory for Brian Kelly and
LSU Tigers, as the defense has improved mightily along a
touchdown less per game sixty yards less per game than
they were just a year ago. At number fourteen, Indiana

(21:41):
coming off there by undefeated right now one of the
best stories in college football. Kurt Signetti, their head coach,
comes from JMU, brings a bunch of players with them,
but adds quarterback Curtis Work from Ohio University, and they
have been phenomenal so far. This is a very well
built football team. But they're gonna get tested now. We've
got Nebraska this week, They've got Ohio State coming up

(22:02):
in a few weeks. Can they make it through? Is
this team legit? We're about ready to find out. At
a number fifteen Kansas State. They're big win over Colorado
on the road this past week. They look like another
team that could be angling for potentially a Big twelve championship.
A lot of football left he played in that conference,
but another team that all the way around is a

(22:22):
solid football team. Maybe Johnson's dynamic with his legs, he
could make the plays in the passing game. Only concern
there is whether or not he gets hurt it's completely
different offense. When he went out of the game this
past week versus Colorado, they can't afford to have that.
So there's your top fifteen head in the Week eight
of college football.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well well done, well done. Other than that's not being three,
but well done, well done.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I mean Jordian three PSU.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
There's some people, some people would say that sc got
hoes and that we should apologize to them. They may
have said that at halftime. They may have, but some
people would say that, yeah, you there, We can agree
on that. We certainly can agree on that.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I thought you did very well, sir. Well done.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
How wide is the gap between Texas and Oregon at
two for you?

Speaker 4 (23:10):
To me, it's pretty big. I mean, I gotta be
honest with you. I still think Georgia and we'll find
out this week. I still think they may be the
best team in football now. The biggest the concern I
have for them is can their wide receivers make plays?
Because you go back to the Alabama game, watching the
first half, everyone kind of felt like Carson Beck played poorly.
I didn't see it quite the same. There was there

(23:32):
were some moments where he didn't play well, but he
did not get any help. I mean, any ball that
was a little bit off, they didn't make a catch
on any play that could have been made, they'd make
the play on. So Georgia's team that I'm really curious
to see how they match up this week versus Texas,
because you know, look, Michigan was a test to some degree,

(23:52):
Oklahoma wasn't a test at all. I kind of look
at where they're at now. This is where they start
to get in the meat and bones of what the
season is going to look like. But if there was
any concerns about Quinn Yours coming back from injury, he
alleviated all those. He looked good.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
This past week, there was a report that came out
they were the big ten in the SEC are talking
about scheduling some stuff moving forward. And I guess one
of the thoughts is they saw the Michigan Texas environment,
they saw Alabama Wisconsin, and we're like, all right, how
can we get more of this? And so there's discussions
that are being had that those two conferences are going

(24:27):
to try and set up non conference big time matchups
similar to what they do in college basketball, but they're
going to try and do it for football and based
on just the environment, and I believe you were that
both of those. I mean, come on, man, there's a
clear separation between those two and everybody else.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's incredible. My mind goes to a lot of these
ball games outside what used to be called the New
Year six. I'm not calling it that anymore, but basically
the bowl games that was served as the quarterfinals and
semi finals. My mind goes to all those other ball
games out there. Stop thinking you're a postseason game, Go
jump in on what the Big ten and sec I

(25:06):
try to do, and then try to promote a kickoff Classic,
and that way each school it's a little easier for
them to buy into because there's not gonna be kind
of that home at home. If they want to do
home at home, great, that always helps the pocket. But
a lot of these kickoff Classics too, they're gonna get
kicked back a good amount of money for playing it
at a neutral site. And if you can find a
cool venue, cool stadium, you do what they do for

(25:27):
Red River, where you divide the stadium in half. That
to me is one of the coolest environments you can
be a part of. I mean, this is obviously coming
off of red River, but for it always been to
Dallas and been down to the State Fair to see
that stadium. You know, half Oklahoma half Texas. When the
game's going on, it's kind of odd or almost eagery
to be in there for because you're always hearing something

(25:48):
like there's there's someone sharing some of but like it's
just it's so evenly split. It makes for a tremendous environment.
Notre Dame Wisconsin did that in Chicago a few years
back too, very similar or with how they divided it up.
The stadium looks incredible, the way the crowd is and
just being able to enjoy a big city like that,
that would be how I would hope that maybe the

(26:10):
Big Ten and SEC can do this. But I'm sure
we'll try to share some home and home opportunities. But
I think there's a grander plan for these two conferences
essentially becoming the top tier of what is college football.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
I mean, could you imagine opening up the season Penn
State at Alabama just right off the bat, or like,
so come on, this is this is what we need,
Like let's kick it off and let's do it the
right way.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I'm telling you, man, Nope, you're not in the small schools.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah yeah, directional schools, yep, all right, Little Penn State,
Toledo Tech to off.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
The year Toledo Tech. Nice, Yeah, that works.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
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Speaker 3 (26:58):
Right now, we turn it over to the man himself,
Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, a CBS
Sports HQ analyst, and our smooth operator here on FSR. Pete,
Good morning, Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
What's up, guys. How are you hi, buddy?

Speaker 3 (27:14):
We're good, Pete, Pete? What'd you think of that officiating
last night?

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Atrocious? I mean, come on, let him play football. These guys,
It's almost like that crew knew they were on national TV,
decided that they wanted to get all the attention they
could possibly get. The rough in the pass or penalty.
What are you supposed to do? You can't hit him low,
you can't hit him in the head, you can't roll
on them. What are you supposed to do? The officiating
was awful last night.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Let him play what's your thoughts on just this whole
situation with the New York Jets, the firing Rogers, just
the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
Well, last night we saw the first time ever that
a general manager played starting quarterback in the National Oh yeah,
he looked pretty good for a GM, I'll tell you that.
What about after the game where he calls out he
basically just you know, sometimes you say I got miscommunication,
you know, we didn't get to play right or whatever,

(28:07):
But no, Mike Wishams ran the wrong route. He basically
has called him out on the interception. I mean, that's
a bad look. I don't care how many years you've
been in the league, you don't do that. I thought
that was a mess, and the penalties are kind of
a reflection of where they are. The offense was better.
You got to give him that. The offense was better.
Maybe that's because the Bills can't stop the run. They

(28:27):
went into, you know, giving up one hundred and forty
four game on the ground. But the bottom line is
it was better. He just can't call out Mike Williams
at the end of that.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Geez pete, what were your takeaways from this weekend's games?
I mean, we we hear Q speak so highly of
how you you know, break down being on the right
side of teams that lose sometimes, and that's just how
things kind of untold. Which was this weekend? Yeah, where'd
you take away this weekend's games?

Speaker 6 (28:57):
Man, it would have been Buffalo because I had to
I was winning that game. And if they had won
that game on a hail Mary and all those penalties,
I would have said, I handicapped it the right way
and just went front and that was the perfect one, Okay.
And Brady Brady knows that he knows how that works
with Buffalo not the right side in that game.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I mean, what was the line on it?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
One and a half?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
That's it? Yeah, Yeah, I guess they look to be
the better team last night. I mean, here's the thing, Peter,
it's all hindsight. It's all twenty twenty. I mean it's like,
could you pick another game, like, for example, the Titans.
You know we're going apain Joe Flack went the backup there.
I mean, we're on the right wrong side of that one.
I assume you had to do a pick.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
Yeah, I was. I was on the wrong side of
that one. I mean I didn't expect Joe Flacco to
throw an alley oop in the end zone and win
the game with a pass that had no business being caught.
But you know you can't. You can't handicap that kind
of stuff. And and Will Levis was awful and and
Calvin Ridley can't get open and plains about not getting
the ball. But I say I was on the right

(30:03):
side of that and ended up being the wrong pick.
How about that you you won't agree with that one.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
I'm not going picks with you this year, so I
can't be there to go back and forth. I'm just
more curious where you're at with Will Levis at this point.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
I'm just going he's struggling. I mean, look, he's got
gotta It wasn't very good and if he doesn't turn
it around, they're gonna have to do something. I think
what they're doing right now is letting him play through
it to see if he is anything, and if he's not,
then they know they've got to go to get a
quarterback because you can't make some Rudolph, come on, you
are what you are. You're not you can't play, You're
not good. You shouldn't be starting in the NFL. So

(30:37):
let's let will Levis play. Look, LeVar, back to your question.
The Ravens can score on anybody. That's what we get
out of the weekend. And I know Washington's not great
on defense, but that's bad dynamic.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
They're not bad.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
That was They're not a bad I mean, I thought
that was a very impressive victory for the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
Yeah, and Lamar's playing, He's throwing. They dare to throw it,
and you know he loaded up the box and he
threw it and he can do that. And you know
he's improved as a passer and when you load up
to stop Derek and really gonna be able to throw
the football. I am still worried a little bit about
the Baltimore defense. They've been giving up a bunch of
chunk plays in the passing game, and that's something we're
not accustomed to with the Ravens. I think they need

(31:19):
to tighten that up as we get throughout the season
because if they don't, that's going to come back and
bite them.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Get them on Twitter or ex whatever you want to
call it. At Prisco, CBS. Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnists
for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ, analysts joining us.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
All Right, Pete, I don't know what your expectations were
for the Jacksonville Jaguars coming into the season, but even
if you thought they were going to struggle, I don't
think anybody thought it was going to be this bad.
They looked dreadful on Sunday, absolutely dominated and what's supposed
to be their de facto home away from home. What

(31:57):
are we looking at with this team? Because they've got
New England this week and we were thinking, look if
if Robert sala is getting clipped after a London loss
because they were embarrassed, if they lose to the Patriots
and a rookie quarterback this Sunday, how in trouble is
Doug Peterson?

Speaker 6 (32:12):
Yeah, but that's not what shod con does. He doesn't
fire guys. I mean Urban Meyer had to have, you know,
his little dalliance at the sports bar or wherever his
at the bar with his name on it before he
got before he got fooded out of there, and he
was a disaster. So I don't think. I don't think
that's the shod Conway. Now, having said that, would I
I'd blow him all out of there. I'd get them
all out. Start with the general manager. That guy needs

(32:35):
to go. I mean, he's a disaster. And you know,
you look at that roster and he came out before
the season Sean Conner said, that's the most talented team
we've ever had. It's not even close. But where does
he eat of it? Know? So where does he get
that information? He gets it from Trent Balky? And why
does Trent Balky put that out there to save his
own ass? And when he puts it out there, puts
the pressure on Doug Peterson. But now that the team's

(32:56):
not playing well, well, the roster was good, it's the coaching.
But then Trent Balky creates the divide in the locker room,
which he always divide the building, which he always does
everywhere he goes. Ask Jim r. Ball he hated him
and then he remember, remember Balky hired Jim tom Sula.
Why did he hire Jim tom Zula? He had no
business being.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Had to coach to pizza.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
And now and now now he's doing the same thing.
I hear Ryan Nielsen's deepensive coordinator has no idea what
he's doing. I heard he hired he was forced him
on them.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
There's a rotating guys like it's a hockey game, and
it's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
It's like over the board, over the board you're in now,
I'm sure you don't get too many men on the ice.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yah.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
I mean, it's just it's absurd. They can't rush the passer.
They play Brady a third down. They have Eric Armstead
and now he's gone. They traded and Roy Roberts and
Harris playing and with two other tackles, How the hell
do you expect to rush the quarterback with four tackles
on the field.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, I meant one of those three down college front
looks to stop the run.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
It's terrible.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
You obviously have of you know, your your ear to
a lot of the things going on there in Jacksonville?
Is are they Are they wishing they had Urban back?
I mean, it seemed like they were more successful during
his reign than what's happened this year.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? He makes
he makes Doug Peterson look like Bill Belichick time fifteen.
I mean Urban Meyer was Look, I know you work
with him and stuff, but he was the worst NFL
head coach in the history of the game.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Dang that seems like an older statement.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
I'm just saying that seems like an overstatement.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
No, it's not for the stories of his being so
bad or legendary in that building. I mean, my gosh,
you know they are a better record.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
They had a better record.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
What about a raw rock What was the raw rock coach?
I forgot what his name was. He hired him, I
think from Texas member and he'd walk around and he'd
be on the microphone. Aren't a hard right? Everybody practice tang?

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Is anybody safe?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Like everybody's gotten it today from you anybody else? You
want to take out what you do?

Speaker 4 (35:05):
You want to explain to the guys when I text
you this weekend that I did.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Yeah, what did you? What did you text?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
You have a summer moment?

Speaker 4 (35:14):
You don't remember?

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Yeah, no, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I said a grant.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
Oh yeah, you pulled a grant. You you repeat, you
said something over you saw something happened and it was
a highlight.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, So so explain, explain the background of what a
grant is and it all explain.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
We sit in the green room all the time and
watch the games, and the first year there was this
kid there named Grant. I'm not sure why he was there,
but he was there, and so plays would happen, and
then like you know, we're watching the games live, and
then maybe like ten minutes later, they cut in and
they show a highlight and he'd go, oh my fantasy
team look blook, blook, Oh my god, and we go

(35:51):
that happened about ten minutes ago, you idiot. And so
now anytime anybody gets caught doing that, we call it
a grant. You know. For Logan, Ryan was in there
last week and he's new to the game, but he
had a grant. You know, we get these guys the grant.
So Brady said and admitted be a text that he had.
He called it a grant on himself. What was it?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Based off of q U?

Speaker 4 (36:14):
It was a touchdown highlight. I'm trying to think from
what game. But I was sitting with a meat wagon
watching it, and I immediately thought of Rix Spielman, who
is notorious for at least two grants every Sunday, every weekend.
He always he always gets popped for it.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
You know what even better about Rix Spielman in that room, though,
when Rix Fieldan's in the room, we have the game on,
you know, we have the one game on the big
TV and then we have the mix on the on
the other one, so we could watch them all, and
the mix is ahead of the big ones, you know,
because for some reason the time, that's the way it
is on the timing of it. So I'll watch He'll
be watching like he wanted to commanders on the other
day in the ravens, and so I'll see to play

(36:52):
on the little thing before I go. This is gonna
be a great play here. Watch this throm like, hey,
now he's screaming at me.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Don't tell people, uh, Pete, always a fun time and listen,
you know, try and be real quick, Pete.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Give you a production for next week. Give you a
prediction for what we're going to see happen next. Are
you going to coach that's gonna get clipped? Like what's
gonna happen next week?

Speaker 6 (37:17):
No, no coach is getting clipped. No coaches getting clipped
this week. No, not at all. It's too early. The
next the next logical ones are Mike McCarthy and Doug Peterson,
and neither owner is going to do it right now.
I just don't see it happening. So no, to answer
your question, I don't think it will happen. And I'm
just glad Levar's back after his vacation last week. That's
all that matters.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I appreciate you, man, you know that's Uh. I understand
why you like me being here after listen to these
two guys. Man, you know I'm with you, Pete, Yeah,
me and you Pete.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Right.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
Actually the best, the best we've ever had it was
when when it was just neither one of you were there.
It is just me and doing the doing it right.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
That's all right.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
You do a lot of you do a lot in
l A. I know where you live, and I my
name in l A.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Everyone you do this for a bunch of radio shows.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
We understand.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
I know Jon is his name. I know l A.
He goes to all the hotspots and he tears it
up in l A.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I that is true.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
That is me.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
A lot of people at the club he goes. You
finished this quote. What's good for me is good for me,
that's right.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
And there is an eye in price Goo, believe me,
there he is.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Uh, Ricesco Frisco.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
It's at Price Goo CBS. For those of you that
want to take up any grievances or get his thoughts on, No,
he's not. Thanks Pete, we appreciate it. We'll do it
again next week. You guys there he is a great
p Prisco. Here on Fox Till Radio, it is two
pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports,
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