October 16, 2024 • 36 mins
Tom Brady gets approved to be a minority owner of the Raiders. Jerry Jones melts down in his weekly radio hit. Plus, the midweek awards on The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.
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Dang, yeah, it's actually LeVar. I should I should mention this.
Jodas told me last night after hearing that song, he
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He just steps out.
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Yeah, human frogger, not even human frog.
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He doesn't look either way. He just steps out and
he walks. What happens?
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I told my son yesterday, I said, hey, listen, do
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I wish I had a frog in my back pocket
for both of you right now. I don't have that
type of timing though I'm not. I'm not that good at.
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It, so at least said he does.
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Speaker 3 (02:46):
Tom Brady, part owner of the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Okay, I got questions? All right, how's this going to work? First?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
With his broadcasting arrangement with Fox. It's going to keep continuing.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I mean, nothing changes.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
I was looking at some of the restrictions here and
just upon further review. Will not be permitted in another
team's facility. Cannot witness team practices, Cannot attend broadcast production meetings,
either in person or virtually. Cannot publicly criticize game officials.
Cannot public criticize other teams. Will be subject to NFL's
gambling policy. Will also be the subject to NFL's anti
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tampering policy. I just wonder, you know, how does this is?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
This?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Is this not for long? Or are we looking at.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
For ownership of a team? Why not A bad, bad
of rules. He's got ownership. Like, that's like, I mean
maybe not for everyone, but I mean for for some people,
that's like the American dream. He's living right now.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
See, I think being a broadcaster is the American dream, and.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
He's doing it. I mean that's but what I'm telling
you is he is living the American he is broadcasting.
That doesn't mean that it's not for long. He could
do all those things. He can abide by all those
rules and still have a successful career being a broadcaster
while having minority ownership stake in a team. He could
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do both. It doesn't have to be either or so.
I don't think it even needs to turn into a
big deal because whatever those rules is, he has to
buy bye. I could guarantee you. Why wouldn't he buy it?
By him, He's not gonna break those rules. He's just
going to do his gig.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
The Doodo bids, the dood to bids, all right. So
is this going to set off a trend? Are we
going to see this moving forward?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
More?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
More big time athletes with a little bit of cash
are going to try.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And become owners now a little bit of cash.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, trying to try and get involved here.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I'm with you. I'm wondering how much it costed him.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, So that's that's more of where I'm fascinated because
again we're stepping into like I'm trying to think how
the best phrase is private equity can now invest up
to ten percent into a team, so very similar to
Tom take it a ten percent piece, that's the cap
of what they can do in any individual piece. And
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the reason why I bring up private equity is because
most players didn't make as much cash as Tom has
from his earnings then off the field, but it would
allow them to be a part of a group of
potential players or just a group of people who they've
aligned with who are wealthy enough to put their money
in along with those people. Right, So that's why I
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bring up the private equity portion of it. But what
stands out to me is like what's the valuation? What
valuation did Tom Brady get for his investment? And that's
where I think there could be an issue, at least
in my mind, because everywhere else, I'm sure every owner
is saying, I want to maximize whatever the value is
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of my franchise. So if I'm gonna have someone come
invest ten percent you know, I'm gonna if it's maybe
worth two billion or something, I'm gonna try to make
a claim it's worth four, right, because it's a big
difference if you can invest in you know, for instance,
of the ten percent. You know, you're talking about the
difference two and are million four in a million, that's
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double the amount of money you could have cash from
that transaction selling off the portion of equity. Now, in
the case of Tom Brady, it's unique because it's Tom Brady,
and maybe he got a sweetheart deal, maybe Mark Davis
hooked him up a little bit. It's a private transaction.
Who really knows. I'm not sure that's disclosed anywhere. But
if you found out those details and you found out
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that it was less than what the Las Vegas Raiders
we assume their market value would be, or for another
private equity company like that would be why I find
it kind of interesting because it could set a precedent
not only for other players and getting together groups to
try to do this in the future, but also for
setting what you know, the table, what the market is,
which would be a bad thing in some ways if
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he got a discount, if he got a sweetheart deal
from Mark Davis. But I think it's an incredibly savvy move.
I've said this before. This sets Tom Brady up to
be the majority owner of the Las Vegas Raiders one day,
which they'd be in good hands if that was the case.
But still, this is to me him getting his foot
in the door to eventually be the majority owner of
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an NFL franchise.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Super dope, damn, that's super dope. Good for you, Tom,
good for you.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
He really is the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Like
it's really turned into that and added adding the broadcasting
aspect all that as well too. I mean, what are
you guys gonna get involved? You get enough money, you
guys are rich.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Just a well rounded dude man.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's about access too though, and it's about you know, respect,
And it's a lot like listening to Q talk about
what did he pay or what was given and stuff.
I'm sitting there thinking, I wonder, I guess the next
question is I started thinking was how much how much
value is or how much equity and value in Tom
Brady's name and brand goes into the total cost of
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what he had to pay, you know, like there is
something to be said for how valuable. That man's name
is within the football circles, you know, and probably at
this point beyond beyond those boundaries. So the value that
that you know, Mark Davis is going to receive by
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being able to boast that he has Tom Brady as
as an owner. Which it also led to the next
question I thought of was, if you're so close and
endeared and just loved by Pat Craft or Pat Craft,
what's up Pat, we are Bob Robert Craft? Why why
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would Robert Craft allow Tom Brady to do this?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Somewhere Else, I thought the same thing, Why.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Wouldn't you approach Tom and be like, wait, you want ownership?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Why don't you.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Because of family? Doesn't I mean the Craft. I just
assume he wants to keep it in the family, wants
to pass it down. Mark Davis, to the best of
my knowledge, doesn't have something to pass it down to.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
So we might be looking at it from the hey
from like, why wouldn't Robert Craft? Well, maybe it was
more Tom Brady. Maybe he has a relationship with Mark Davis,
which he obviously has other investments with Mark Davis. He's
invested into the w NBA team, I believe, But maybe
it was also about that it was strategic on tom
Brady's part, and.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Why he went about going to the Raiders makes sense.
That makes sense. Yeah, I mean the whole thing, if
you ask me, it just Tom Brady is dope man.
Good for him, Good for you, bro, and good luck
and keep keep doing it. Like that's that's all I
can come up with with this. But I mean, and
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I think it is what you said. I know you're
you know, maybe being funny, but you know, it does
create motivation, you know, inspiration for former players to to
aspire to you know, a lot of times players didn't
think that that was even a possibility.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
You guys are disgustingly You guys are disgustingly rich, Like
why don't you guys, you know, get involved in somehow,
some way.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm not disgustingly rich. I have five kids in a way.
So the interesting thing about it is there have been
there are like there's a there's a number of guys
that have ownership stakes, minority ownership stakes in teams at
the NFL level. So it's not like this is he's
not a pioneer with what he's doing. But I do
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think that what Q was saying if there were one
other guy, say probably would be in in in like
that kind of thought process that could actually end up
really owning the team as the majority, I would say
it be work done in Atlanta. I think that what
he's been able to do within the community and his
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connection with Arthur Blank and everything that you know he's
got going on, I could see him possibly being a
guy that ends up getting majority ownership stake and and
and and the f I think he's already a minority
owner now. I think what he what he's been able
to do, like very quietly, he has put himself in
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a very very good position to possibly be able to
maneuver and be empowered to to take that type of position.
So I would say there's two guys that I look
at that had that type of trajectory, and Tom Brady
being the latest one to join that list. So I mean,
to me, I think that puts puts a proper perspective
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on if somebody of our you know, our background, that
that has played the game and didn't want to just
I played the game and I'm moving on, but actually
had aspirations to possibly one day have ownership or even
aspire beyond that. I think that this opens the door
for it, It opens the conversation for it for certain,
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because I don't think that it's ever really been a
real conversation, you know, amongst former players even.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Contexts in reading through this. And by the way, I'm
trying to see who else, but Richard Seymour is also
a part of the group that is part of it.
It's it's called Nighthead Capital Management and they have gotten involved.
Got named Tom Wagner is the co founder, so it's
him Tom Brady Richard Seymour who's also a part of this.
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This deal and the evaluation of the Riders franchise is
at three and a half billion dollars and they've invested
approximately two hundred and twenty million as part of it.
So that that's me low for I think, what the
Las Vegas raders.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's not an egregious number. That's not a horribly bad number,
especially if it's a group. No, that's not bad at all.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
But I kind of look at it and just go, Okay,
you know, it's it's kind of interesting, but it doesn't actually.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well you think, like, what is it? What's hitting you
right now? Like what's it making you think? Like I
hear it in your voice, what what what is?
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Well?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I think there's gonna be a lot of private equity
groups who are looking to partner with former athletes to
try to invest and help infuse you know, capital into
some of these franchises. I mean, there's there's obviously the
ability to redo the stadium to help make it a
better experience for fans for other events that take place there.
Like I look at the landscape right now, and this
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is for good or bad, But what the NFL has become.
It's become such a big business that you can't just
think about football. Like if you're looking at this and saying, Okay,
what does the investment mean to the Las Vegas Raiders
for the Raiders success, it's not at that. It's about
the business. It's about the concert, It's about everything else
that comes inside that stadium beyond that. And then you're
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hoping that the impact of Tom Brady will help also
help the team itself. But it's really more about the capitol.
It's more about the money that's being put in. So
and this is happening everywhere, like this is happening over
in soccer stadiums in Europe where you know, they're looking
for an infusion of capitol because they have these old
stadiums that are historic and the build on tradition. But
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there's obviously outside of a you know, a football match
or a rugby match, there's not really anything else going
on there. And so like there's a lot of infusion
in capital over there from American companies in particularly like
the forty nine ers for example, to try to get
them up with the times so they can have more
events there in concerts and rodeos, whatever else the hell
you want to put in these things. So that's that's
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what kind of hits me about it. But to Jonas's question,
maybe your point, I do think you're going to see
more players get more involved. I was just trying to
see what other players have equity in teams right now there.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I thought this article was gonna tell me that unfortunate
star warth, and it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Took me on a different path.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah. Man, I just looked at a list not too
long ago. It's like it's like, uh, it's a handful
of guys. I want to say, it's like six guys
or seven guys.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I mean, you guys got two hundred twenty million line
around and addresser upstairs, Like you could put that together easy.
You just got to find a team to buy, Like,
who's interested in selling? Make that happen. Yeah, I don't
want any involvement. I just want to be part of
the broadcasting team.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I wish I was in the hundreds. I'm not in
the hundreds. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. Maybe one day though.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, maybe maybe maybe one day.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
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Speaker 8 (16:13):
Going now now, lot of room round, you gotta radio
type of Bangah, I'm I'm radying a lot of rhythm
going round.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh we.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Gotta have that fun.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, I'm Brady so I'm talking about you gotta have
that phone.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Oh, we.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Gotta have that phone.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Oh we They used to have this plane at the
Bogie Inn.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Is that right?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah? Repeat?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know these people are singing Nope.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That that da Who is it?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
It's Parliament whatever?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
They named their band after a cigarette?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Is that a cigarette?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I believe so? Lee, that's a cigarette, right, Parliament.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
It's gonna better believe it.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's right. When's the last time you had a long
dart with a parliament name on it?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I had a Parliament this weekend?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Is that crazy? Hey? Are you surprised.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Parliament this week?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
You know we should really try it surprise lye with
tobacco and booze. Uh, just randomly and see when's the
last time he's had it? So you smoke to parliament
this past week?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I bummed a cigarette off my buddy.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's crazy them.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I don't know how often do you bum a cigarette?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Not often, not often at all.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
But I.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Bum bummed a parliament because I was actually I was like, hey,
you got parliaments, let me get one of those.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
It's like the most obscure cigarette brand and he's throwing it.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Lee.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Oh yeah, I have on this weekend. Oh my gosh, geez.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
All right, well, we are going to get to this
story in the NFL about somebody who appears to be
melting down in front of your very eyes and ears.
We'll get to that here shortly, but first, for all
the latest from around the world of sports. A man
who just looked on in discussed at Lee's habit over
the weekend, Eddie Garcia.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Eddie, I don't know that that look was disgusting.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It was actually just like, yeah, Park, it was just
like acceptance.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
That sounds about right.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
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so make sure you stick around for that. Right now, though,
we are going to hear somebody who appears to be
melting down before our very eyes and ears.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
The one and only Jerry Jones does is.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
I believe he's doing two hits a week on local
radio on Dallas. He was talking with Sean and Rja
yesterday and I went a little bit like.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
This, Jerry, You've made one in season coaching change in
your time here. That was back in twenty ten, and
I know the records are different. You were one in
seven verses.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
And I won't be making it and I won't be
making any others during end the season.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
So what is different than about this year the way
the team is performing versus twenty ten?
Speaker 7 (19:31):
We were one in seven at that time, one in seven.
This is not your job. Your job is to let
me go over all the reasons that I did something
and I'm sorry that I did it. That's not your job.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Well, my job is asking.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
The job, or I'll get another I'll get somebody else
to ask these questions.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Man, Jerry, We're just we're trying to figure out why.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
The team is I'm not kidding it. I'm not kidding it.
You're not going to figure out what the team is
doing right or if you are, are any five or
ten like you, you need to come to this meeting
I'm going to today. There are thirty two teams here,
your geniuses, Jerry. You don't really think you're gonna sit
there with a microphone and tell me all of the
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things that I've done wrong and without going over the rights. Now, listen,
we both know we're talking to a lot of great
fans and a lot of great listeners, and I am
very sorry for what happened out there Sunday. I'm sick
about what happened Sunday. One of the stupidest things I've
ever done, that anybody has ever analyzed, is by the Cowboys.
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It was an idiot that did that. So idiot things
can turn into good decisions. Okay, smart things can turn
into bad decisions. The facts are that when you make one,
you don't really know whether it's going to be good
or not at the time. So let's just go ahead.
I'm trying to answer you questions. Man, you want some
you want some conversation this morning, you're getting that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Those Jones on with us went through a few different
emotions that ever spot.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Can I just say this, I love Jerry Jones.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
I think he's been great for the league, great for
the Cowboys comes off like a douche share like a
full fledged five alarm douche. You don't start pulling rank
and calling jobs and threatening jobs on the air just
because you don't like the questions you're getting. Your team
got clowned. They've been clowned multiple times now at home
in a row, fourth straight. To be exact, you should
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expect that you're going to get some questions about what
the plan was in the offseason heading into this season.
You've been underwhelming. You haven't even reached the conference championship
game since the mid nineties. So the idea that they're
not allowed to ask him questions or else he's going
to threaten to get somebody else to do their job.
I like the guy, but he came off like a douchehare.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Sorry, you guys got the microphones and don't you need
to be going to this meeting with me? If your
genius is like that, I mean, what point are they
not supposed to I guess I would say, what is
the arrangement? What's the understanding that they have doing this
weekly with Jerry Jones? You know, because if you're not
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comfortable enough listen, I do a weekly call with with
the head coach of Penn State. And if I heard
in his voice like one of our last interviews, I
could tell there was something like going on, like whether
he was under the weather or just was irritated. Something
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had him irritated. You could hear in Jerry Jones's voice
that he was irritated, like before they even doubled down
on it sometimes you got to exercise, you know, a
little little finesse or a little restraint in terms of
how you're going to handle things, because I mean, they
are under a different level of duress, a different level
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of pressure than what you know other people are. You know,
I know he did come off as a d bag,
And I'm not even trying to defend the man, but
I'm just saying, like sometimes us in the in the
in the business, in the media world, sometimes you got
to like measure engage the room. I mean you could
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hear it in his first response, like it was almost
like he was like gnashing. It's like grinding his teeth
while he was answering, Like you know, like, hey, I'm
maybe he ain't in the rights mind space to be
doing his interview today, and I'm gonna make sure that
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I play it that way. I don't know, Maybe I'm
I'm maybe I'm not doing my job the right way
if I handle it that way. But I'll say this,
I certainly would. I certainly would.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I also think it's a rarity in owners having a
weekly and for this reason, you know, you don't need
to go on every week to talk about your team,
to talk about what's happening on a week to week basis.
You know, it's just is that the best use of
Jerry Jones time? Now I say this, and I also
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have to acknowledge that he's built the most valued franchise
in all of professional sports. Maybe that's part of it.
Maybe it's Jerry's connection to his fans.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I don't always listen into his weekly although we usually
do get some soundbites from it, and in particular in
times like this. But maybe that's part of the brilliance
of Jerry Jones, and maybe every owner should be doing it.
But I look at it and I think, what's the
reward versus what's the risk? And doing these interviews there's
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a much greater risk in my opinion than there is
a reward, you know. And if he wants to call
in whenever he wants, he could, I don't know that
he has to have like a weekly standing interview where
he allows the emotions of the seasons to play a
role in all the I think that's the tough part
is you know, anyone who's been a part of a
team and been in that then those you know, locker
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rooms in those organizations, it's a week to week business.
It's crazy how different you feel after a win and
how different you feel after a loss. And it does
feel like a roller coaster ride. And it hits everyone.
I mean, anytime you're a part of a professional sports organization,
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you could be a marketing If you're losing, man, you
are struggling, it's harder to sell, harder to get people
who want to be a part of what's going on.
So impacts everyone, not just the people who are actually
running the team and the people in the front office
and the coaching staff of the players. It affects everyone.
So I can understand all sides of this. I'm just
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not sure this should even be a thing. Like I
look at it. I think we laugh about it because
no one else does it, and he does it sound
bites or it puts more pressure because of what he
says on Mike McCarthy or the players, and you look
at their lack of success. And I don't know this answer.
Has he always done this? Has he always done a
(26:12):
weekly It's been a long as time, for like thirty years,
for like, was he doing this back when Jimmy Johnson
was the head coach, when Troy Aikman was there and
Evan's like, that's what I wondered, because I get the
entire world has changed since then, but it doesn't feel
like there was as many distractions during that period of time.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
It feels, I want to say, within the last ten years.
I think this is he started to do this more.
Stephen Jones also does a hit. I don't know if
he does two a week, but he also does a hit.
So it's either Jerry or Steven who's going to get
the messaging out. And look, this is their approach, And yeah,
to your point, I mean they're a ten billion dollar
franchise or the only one in sport, so I can't
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question that. He sounds like somebody who I think is
acknowledging that the clock's ticking in more ways I want.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
And he like that seeing his mortality types because he
went through three different emotions on that and that answer.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
And I feel bad hearing that from the sense. From
that standpoint, it's still like you upset granddad many a
couple of years ago when he didn't it, that's the
best way describing it. When he went to training camp
in Aux Nard a couple of years ago, he started
crying the first day there, and.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It sounded like he was heading towards crime for that
one on on everything, like he went from angry and
offended to like kind of coming to terms with it
to like I'm upset and I'm sad about it. Like
that's he went through different and he answered his answers,
went into what his emotions were while he was answering it.
(27:48):
That's why I guess I felt like I felt bad,
Like I guess that's why I'm sitting there, like felt
like I was coming off as defending him, like I
kind of I kind of felt bad, like I was
listening to like my my, my old head granddad, like
answer a question about something.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Let me ask you this. If there was one other
owner in the NFL that you guys would like to
hear from twice a week on local radio with their
in their city, who would it be?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
David Tepper.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Oh that's a good one. I didn't even think David Tepper.
I was gonna go Jimmy Haslam. No, yeah, yeah, Tepper's good.
Because Tepper can't control his emotions.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
He literally tried to take the hat off a hostess
host excuse me, at a restaurant because the sign.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
He saw outside Yeah, he threw He threw a can
of strychnine at some fan in a Jaguars game as
well too.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
It was water.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Oh, you know, same thing.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't know who.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Man Dan Snyder Back in the day, did Dan Snyder?
Did Little Danny ever do to a hit?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Two hits a week.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I mean just because he was he really was a
d bag. I mean that doesn't mean he's.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Going to interview well like if we're if, but he's
with them from time to time.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
He said was it was cool for a while. It
wasn't the most like like socially adjusted dude. You know,
you're not going to win. He's not going to win
most most charismatic guy.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Where he says on the spectrum or something.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I mean maybe he was.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I didn't put him on it, but maybe it was.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Now I'm thinking about breaking news.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
The great point was, I mean the way he walked,
like the way he did things. He just he just
looked like a little dude that that tried to be cool.
You know, that's that's kind of what it was.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
He wasn't athletic, is what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
No, he wasn't going to like be able to handle
the a gap or catch balls across the middle his spine,
who are going to play Division one football and then
maybe having ten years to lead, can you know lead?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, well listen now.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Lift weights every day like he wasn't one of them guys.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
I mean, maybe Jerry should figure out what better way
to communicate with those guys twice a week.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I think maybe he should, like my whole thing is
this right now that I'm kind of like kind of
settling in on it. I mean, shouldn't if you feel
like you have to call them out like that, because
they do have a job to do, right, So if
you feel like going on this show that you could
find yourself in a in a mind state where you're
(30:37):
threatening them that way, maybe you just do pre you know,
Either you do a pre recorded interview so that you
can you can hash that out and air that out
without it going over live radio, which wouldn't be as
good probably but nonetheless with service purpose. Or you give
(30:58):
them a list of you know, you can talk about this,
you can't talk about this, or like have something you have.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
A device like give them a device, like a better
way to communicate if you're not happy about you know
how This has got.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Me in if you think about it, somebody could have
been in the background rapid radioing them and telling them
like no, no, no, abort, abort, abort, don't ask them
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they could have done it from anywhere because it's on
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could have kept in touch with well the staff members
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Speaker 2 (32:30):
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Speaker 2 (33:24):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
All right, lead to lab who's got what well?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
As we do each and every week, we start with
the good, and this week you delivered the good.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Jonas we mentioned this a little bit on Monday, But
take about college football because a couple of weeks in
a row, they've delivered every single time. And this past
Saturday was outstanding. Whether it was the finish to the
Ohio State Oregon game bleeding right into lsu Ole Miss
(34:02):
you know, personal preference. I got to stay up and
watch Hawaii play. They lost, but Ashton Genty and his
performance yet again, two hundred plus favorite to win the Heisman,
college football is delivered two bangers in a row.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's been a great season.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
By far and away, the most entertaining football we've seen
between the NFL and college football has been in the
college ranks.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Well, can't have good without the bad. Brady, what was
bad this week?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Oh, a number of things. Teams were bad. Obviously my
brownies are not good.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They're bad.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Jacksonville Jaguars over in London that had have been disappointed
to watch someone's bad, But probably Nick Sirianni talking trash
with a fan. I just I don't really understand why
you get involved in all of that. I understand those
emotions involved, and sometimes they can get the best of you,
but it feels like there's just always something there and
to them, like, I don't know, try to like cover
(34:57):
it up with the post press conference and everything else.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
A lot.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
He apologize, but that's something that should never happen. Did
we ever see that about Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin?
We never hear that about any of them, So, like,
why why does he think it's okay? It should never
come to that. So that's the bad for me. It's
(35:20):
just it's a bad look all the way around. And
even though Philly got the win, I just I feel
like there's something else going on there.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
And from bad two worse. LeVar, what was ugly this week?
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Well?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I got two and it's receiver based, all right. I
don't know how much runway. The Jets have to land
their jet at some point now that they've added DeVante Adams, like,
I think that could get ugly if it doesn't go
well with this acquisition bringing him in. And then the
second one you heard Q talking about the Brownies. I
(35:50):
think it's kind of ugly. The season's ugly, but what
makes it even more uglier is that you say that
Deshaun Watson gives you the best chance to win, but
then you trade away your one receiver. Damn, that's ugly
to me. So that's my ugly for the week. There
you go.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Damn, that is ugly.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's kind of ugly.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
What do the Browns have to catch strays here every week?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It's not a stray that was That was a direct.
They can always blame themselves. Yeah, I shot it off.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Well, listen, they'll be back, Brady will the fine will
where
Speaker 1 (36:28):
They will be back
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I do my work during the day to this song.
It's dope song.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
How do you get anything done?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I get a lot done. This is really good. It's
a real feel good song. Little give you that little bounce?
You get that little bounce?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Uh uh?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
You guys, how long do you think this one's gonna last?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh? This is a good one. Oh I might. I
might keep this one forever.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Oh man, Yeah, I feel like whatever you say that
about it usually then like two weeks later you're like,
i'med over it.
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Nah No, I never get over this one, okay, cause
you're beautiful.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
I just want you guys to know that if you
ever find out that I walk into traffic.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I was listening to this song right before.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Dang, yeah, it's actually LeVar. I should I should mention this.
Jodas told me last night after hearing that song, he
no longer looks both ways before crossing a street.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
He just steps out.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, human frogger, not even human frog.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
He doesn't look either way. He just steps out and
he walks. What happens?
Speaker 6 (01:41):
I told my son yesterday, I said, hey, listen, do
as I say, not as I do.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Let me go first.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I wish I had a frog in my back pocket
for both of you right now. I don't have that
type of timing though I'm not. I'm not that good at.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
It, so at least said he does.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I don't want to use Lee's frog for it.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
By the way, By the way, if you're the wappo,
how do you how do you even come back from that?
You should just leave that alone, Like, hey, listen, we're
not going to top that. We're not gonna have one
of our reporters go out and cut a fart and
response like it's just take the l move on and
find something.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
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Speaker 3 (02:46):
Tom Brady, part owner of the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Okay, I got questions? All right, how's this going to work? First?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
With his broadcasting arrangement with Fox. It's going to keep continuing.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I mean, nothing changes.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
I was looking at some of the restrictions here and
just upon further review. Will not be permitted in another
team's facility. Cannot witness team practices, Cannot attend broadcast production meetings,
either in person or virtually. Cannot publicly criticize game officials.
Cannot public criticize other teams. Will be subject to NFL's
gambling policy. Will also be the subject to NFL's anti
(03:29):
tampering policy. I just wonder, you know, how does this is?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
This?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Is this not for long? Or are we looking at.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
For ownership of a team? Why not A bad, bad
of rules. He's got ownership. Like, that's like, I mean
maybe not for everyone, but I mean for for some people,
that's like the American dream. He's living right now.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
See, I think being a broadcaster is the American dream, and.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
He's doing it. I mean that's but what I'm telling
you is he is living the American he is broadcasting.
That doesn't mean that it's not for long. He could
do all those things. He can abide by all those
rules and still have a successful career being a broadcaster
while having minority ownership stake in a team. He could
(04:19):
do both. It doesn't have to be either or so.
I don't think it even needs to turn into a
big deal because whatever those rules is, he has to
buy bye. I could guarantee you. Why wouldn't he buy it?
By him, He's not gonna break those rules. He's just
going to do his gig.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
The Doodo bids, the dood to bids, all right. So
is this going to set off a trend? Are we
going to see this moving forward?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
More?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
More big time athletes with a little bit of cash
are going to try.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And become owners now a little bit of cash.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, trying to try and get involved here.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I'm with you. I'm wondering how much it costed him.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, So that's that's more of where I'm fascinated because
again we're stepping into like I'm trying to think how
the best phrase is private equity can now invest up
to ten percent into a team, so very similar to
Tom take it a ten percent piece, that's the cap
of what they can do in any individual piece. And
(05:16):
the reason why I bring up private equity is because
most players didn't make as much cash as Tom has
from his earnings then off the field, but it would
allow them to be a part of a group of
potential players or just a group of people who they've
aligned with who are wealthy enough to put their money
in along with those people. Right, So that's why I
(05:36):
bring up the private equity portion of it. But what
stands out to me is like what's the valuation? What
valuation did Tom Brady get for his investment? And that's
where I think there could be an issue, at least
in my mind, because everywhere else, I'm sure every owner
is saying, I want to maximize whatever the value is
(05:58):
of my franchise. So if I'm gonna have someone come
invest ten percent you know, I'm gonna if it's maybe
worth two billion or something, I'm gonna try to make
a claim it's worth four, right, because it's a big
difference if you can invest in you know, for instance,
of the ten percent. You know, you're talking about the
difference two and are million four in a million, that's
(06:19):
double the amount of money you could have cash from
that transaction selling off the portion of equity. Now, in
the case of Tom Brady, it's unique because it's Tom Brady,
and maybe he got a sweetheart deal, maybe Mark Davis
hooked him up a little bit. It's a private transaction.
Who really knows. I'm not sure that's disclosed anywhere. But
if you found out those details and you found out
(06:40):
that it was less than what the Las Vegas Raiders
we assume their market value would be, or for another
private equity company like that would be why I find
it kind of interesting because it could set a precedent
not only for other players and getting together groups to
try to do this in the future, but also for
setting what you know, the table, what the market is,
which would be a bad thing in some ways if
(07:02):
he got a discount, if he got a sweetheart deal
from Mark Davis. But I think it's an incredibly savvy move.
I've said this before. This sets Tom Brady up to
be the majority owner of the Las Vegas Raiders one day,
which they'd be in good hands if that was the case.
But still, this is to me him getting his foot
in the door to eventually be the majority owner of
(07:22):
an NFL franchise.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Super dope, damn, that's super dope. Good for you, Tom,
good for you.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
He really is the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Like
it's really turned into that and added adding the broadcasting
aspect all that as well too. I mean, what are
you guys gonna get involved? You get enough money, you
guys are rich.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Just a well rounded dude man.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's about access too though, and it's about you know, respect,
And it's a lot like listening to Q talk about
what did he pay or what was given and stuff.
I'm sitting there thinking, I wonder, I guess the next
question is I started thinking was how much how much
value is or how much equity and value in Tom
Brady's name and brand goes into the total cost of
(08:09):
what he had to pay, you know, like there is
something to be said for how valuable. That man's name
is within the football circles, you know, and probably at
this point beyond beyond those boundaries. So the value that
that you know, Mark Davis is going to receive by
(08:29):
being able to boast that he has Tom Brady as
as an owner. Which it also led to the next
question I thought of was, if you're so close and
endeared and just loved by Pat Craft or Pat Craft,
what's up Pat, we are Bob Robert Craft? Why why
(08:50):
would Robert Craft allow Tom Brady to do this?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Somewhere Else, I thought the same thing, Why.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Wouldn't you approach Tom and be like, wait, you want ownership?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Why don't you.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Because of family? Doesn't I mean the Craft. I just
assume he wants to keep it in the family, wants
to pass it down. Mark Davis, to the best of
my knowledge, doesn't have something to pass it down to.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
So we might be looking at it from the hey
from like, why wouldn't Robert Craft? Well, maybe it was
more Tom Brady. Maybe he has a relationship with Mark Davis,
which he obviously has other investments with Mark Davis. He's
invested into the w NBA team, I believe, But maybe
it was also about that it was strategic on tom
Brady's part, and.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Why he went about going to the Raiders makes sense.
That makes sense. Yeah, I mean the whole thing, if
you ask me, it just Tom Brady is dope man.
Good for him, Good for you, bro, and good luck
and keep keep doing it. Like that's that's all I
can come up with with this. But I mean, and
(09:54):
I think it is what you said. I know you're
you know, maybe being funny, but you know, it does
create motivation, you know, inspiration for former players to to
aspire to you know, a lot of times players didn't
think that that was even a possibility.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
You guys are disgustingly You guys are disgustingly rich, Like
why don't you guys, you know, get involved in somehow,
some way.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm not disgustingly rich. I have five kids in a way.
So the interesting thing about it is there have been
there are like there's a there's a number of guys
that have ownership stakes, minority ownership stakes in teams at
the NFL level. So it's not like this is he's
not a pioneer with what he's doing. But I do
(10:43):
think that what Q was saying if there were one
other guy, say probably would be in in in like
that kind of thought process that could actually end up
really owning the team as the majority, I would say
it be work done in Atlanta. I think that what
he's been able to do within the community and his
(11:04):
connection with Arthur Blank and everything that you know he's
got going on, I could see him possibly being a
guy that ends up getting majority ownership stake and and
and and the f I think he's already a minority
owner now. I think what he what he's been able
to do, like very quietly, he has put himself in
(11:28):
a very very good position to possibly be able to
maneuver and be empowered to to take that type of position.
So I would say there's two guys that I look
at that had that type of trajectory, and Tom Brady
being the latest one to join that list. So I mean,
to me, I think that puts puts a proper perspective
(11:51):
on if somebody of our you know, our background, that
that has played the game and didn't want to just
I played the game and I'm moving on, but actually
had aspirations to possibly one day have ownership or even
aspire beyond that. I think that this opens the door
for it, It opens the conversation for it for certain,
(12:14):
because I don't think that it's ever really been a
real conversation, you know, amongst former players even.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Contexts in reading through this. And by the way, I'm
trying to see who else, but Richard Seymour is also
a part of the group that is part of it.
It's it's called Nighthead Capital Management and they have gotten involved.
Got named Tom Wagner is the co founder, so it's
him Tom Brady Richard Seymour who's also a part of this.
(12:45):
This deal and the evaluation of the Riders franchise is
at three and a half billion dollars and they've invested
approximately two hundred and twenty million as part of it.
So that that's me low for I think, what the
Las Vegas raders.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's not an egregious number. That's not a horribly bad number,
especially if it's a group. No, that's not bad at all.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
But I kind of look at it and just go, Okay,
you know, it's it's kind of interesting, but it doesn't actually.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well you think, like, what is it? What's hitting you
right now? Like what's it making you think? Like I
hear it in your voice, what what what is?
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Well?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I think there's gonna be a lot of private equity
groups who are looking to partner with former athletes to
try to invest and help infuse you know, capital into
some of these franchises. I mean, there's there's obviously the
ability to redo the stadium to help make it a
better experience for fans for other events that take place there.
Like I look at the landscape right now, and this
(13:44):
is for good or bad, But what the NFL has become.
It's become such a big business that you can't just
think about football. Like if you're looking at this and saying, Okay,
what does the investment mean to the Las Vegas Raiders
for the Raiders success, it's not at that. It's about
the business. It's about the concert, It's about everything else
that comes inside that stadium beyond that. And then you're
(14:07):
hoping that the impact of Tom Brady will help also
help the team itself. But it's really more about the capitol.
It's more about the money that's being put in. So
and this is happening everywhere, like this is happening over
in soccer stadiums in Europe where you know, they're looking
for an infusion of capitol because they have these old
stadiums that are historic and the build on tradition. But
(14:29):
there's obviously outside of a you know, a football match
or a rugby match, there's not really anything else going
on there. And so like there's a lot of infusion
in capital over there from American companies in particularly like
the forty nine ers for example, to try to get
them up with the times so they can have more
events there in concerts and rodeos, whatever else the hell
you want to put in these things. So that's that's
(14:50):
what kind of hits me about it. But to Jonas's question,
maybe your point, I do think you're going to see
more players get more involved. I was just trying to
see what other players have equity in teams right now there.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I thought this article was gonna tell me that unfortunate
star warth, and it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Took me on a different path.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah. Man, I just looked at a list not too
long ago. It's like it's like, uh, it's a handful
of guys. I want to say, it's like six guys
or seven guys.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I mean, you guys got two hundred twenty million line
around and addresser upstairs, Like you could put that together easy.
You just got to find a team to buy, Like,
who's interested in selling? Make that happen. Yeah, I don't
want any involvement. I just want to be part of
the broadcasting team.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I wish I was in the hundreds. I'm not in
the hundreds. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. Maybe one day though.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, maybe maybe maybe one day.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
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and ears in the NFL.
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Speaker 8 (16:13):
Going now now, lot of room round, you gotta radio
type of Bangah, I'm I'm radying a lot of rhythm
going round.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh we.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Gotta have that fun.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, I'm Brady so I'm talking about you gotta have
that phone.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Oh, we.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Gotta have that phone.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Oh we They used to have this plane at the
Bogie Inn.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Is that right?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah? Repeat?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know these people are singing Nope.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That that da Who is it?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
It's Parliament whatever?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
They named their band after a cigarette?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Is that a cigarette?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I believe so? Lee, that's a cigarette, right, Parliament.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
It's gonna better believe it.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's right. When's the last time you had a long
dart with a parliament name on it?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I had a Parliament this weekend?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Is that crazy? Hey? Are you surprised.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Parliament this week?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
You know we should really try it surprise lye with
tobacco and booze. Uh, just randomly and see when's the
last time he's had it? So you smoke to parliament
this past week?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I bummed a cigarette off my buddy.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's crazy them.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I don't know how often do you bum a cigarette?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Not often, not often at all.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
But I.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Bum bummed a parliament because I was actually I was like, hey,
you got parliaments, let me get one of those.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
It's like the most obscure cigarette brand and he's throwing it.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Lee.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Oh yeah, I have on this weekend. Oh my gosh, geez.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
All right, well, we are going to get to this
story in the NFL about somebody who appears to be
melting down in front of your very eyes and ears.
We'll get to that here shortly, but first, for all
the latest from around the world of sports. A man
who just looked on in discussed at Lee's habit over
the weekend, Eddie Garcia.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Eddie, I don't know that that look was disgusting.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It was actually just like, yeah, Park, it was just
like acceptance.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
That sounds about right.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Two pros and a cup of Joe Here on Fox
Sports Radio. We are going to have our midweek Awards
coming up here in a little over fifteen minutes from now,
so make sure you stick around for that. Right now, though,
we are going to hear somebody who appears to be
melting down before our very eyes and ears.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
The one and only Jerry Jones does is.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
I believe he's doing two hits a week on local
radio on Dallas. He was talking with Sean and Rja
yesterday and I went a little bit like.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
This, Jerry, You've made one in season coaching change in
your time here. That was back in twenty ten, and
I know the records are different. You were one in
seven verses.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
And I won't be making it and I won't be
making any others during end the season.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
So what is different than about this year the way
the team is performing versus twenty ten?
Speaker 7 (19:31):
We were one in seven at that time, one in seven.
This is not your job. Your job is to let
me go over all the reasons that I did something
and I'm sorry that I did it. That's not your job.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Well, my job is asking.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
The job, or I'll get another I'll get somebody else
to ask these questions.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Man, Jerry, We're just we're trying to figure out why.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
The team is I'm not kidding it. I'm not kidding it.
You're not going to figure out what the team is
doing right or if you are, are any five or
ten like you, you need to come to this meeting
I'm going to today. There are thirty two teams here,
your geniuses, Jerry. You don't really think you're gonna sit
there with a microphone and tell me all of the
(20:16):
things that I've done wrong and without going over the rights. Now, listen,
we both know we're talking to a lot of great
fans and a lot of great listeners, and I am
very sorry for what happened out there Sunday. I'm sick
about what happened Sunday. One of the stupidest things I've
ever done, that anybody has ever analyzed, is by the Cowboys.
(20:36):
It was an idiot that did that. So idiot things
can turn into good decisions. Okay, smart things can turn
into bad decisions. The facts are that when you make one,
you don't really know whether it's going to be good
or not at the time. So let's just go ahead.
I'm trying to answer you questions. Man, you want some
you want some conversation this morning, you're getting that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Those Jones on with us went through a few different
emotions that ever spot.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Can I just say this, I love Jerry Jones.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
I think he's been great for the league, great for
the Cowboys comes off like a douche share like a
full fledged five alarm douche. You don't start pulling rank
and calling jobs and threatening jobs on the air just
because you don't like the questions you're getting. Your team
got clowned. They've been clowned multiple times now at home
in a row, fourth straight. To be exact, you should
(21:30):
expect that you're going to get some questions about what
the plan was in the offseason heading into this season.
You've been underwhelming. You haven't even reached the conference championship
game since the mid nineties. So the idea that they're
not allowed to ask him questions or else he's going
to threaten to get somebody else to do their job.
I like the guy, but he came off like a douchehare.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Sorry, you guys got the microphones and don't you need
to be going to this meeting with me? If your
genius is like that, I mean, what point are they
not supposed to I guess I would say, what is
the arrangement? What's the understanding that they have doing this
weekly with Jerry Jones? You know, because if you're not
(22:15):
comfortable enough listen, I do a weekly call with with
the head coach of Penn State. And if I heard
in his voice like one of our last interviews, I
could tell there was something like going on, like whether
he was under the weather or just was irritated. Something
(22:35):
had him irritated. You could hear in Jerry Jones's voice
that he was irritated, like before they even doubled down
on it sometimes you got to exercise, you know, a
little little finesse or a little restraint in terms of
how you're going to handle things, because I mean, they
are under a different level of duress, a different level
(22:57):
of pressure than what you know other people are. You know,
I know he did come off as a d bag,
And I'm not even trying to defend the man, but
I'm just saying, like sometimes us in the in the
in the business, in the media world, sometimes you got
to like measure engage the room. I mean you could
(23:19):
hear it in his first response, like it was almost
like he was like gnashing. It's like grinding his teeth
while he was answering, Like you know, like, hey, I'm
maybe he ain't in the rights mind space to be
doing his interview today, and I'm gonna make sure that
(23:40):
I play it that way. I don't know, Maybe I'm
I'm maybe I'm not doing my job the right way
if I handle it that way. But I'll say this,
I certainly would. I certainly would.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I also think it's a rarity in owners having a
weekly and for this reason, you know, you don't need
to go on every week to talk about your team,
to talk about what's happening on a week to week basis.
You know, it's just is that the best use of
Jerry Jones time? Now I say this, and I also
(24:14):
have to acknowledge that he's built the most valued franchise
in all of professional sports. Maybe that's part of it.
Maybe it's Jerry's connection to his fans.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I don't always listen into his weekly although we usually
do get some soundbites from it, and in particular in
times like this. But maybe that's part of the brilliance
of Jerry Jones, and maybe every owner should be doing it.
But I look at it and I think, what's the
reward versus what's the risk? And doing these interviews there's
(24:44):
a much greater risk in my opinion than there is
a reward, you know. And if he wants to call
in whenever he wants, he could, I don't know that
he has to have like a weekly standing interview where
he allows the emotions of the seasons to play a
role in all the I think that's the tough part
is you know, anyone who's been a part of a
team and been in that then those you know, locker
(25:06):
rooms in those organizations, it's a week to week business.
It's crazy how different you feel after a win and
how different you feel after a loss. And it does
feel like a roller coaster ride. And it hits everyone.
I mean, anytime you're a part of a professional sports organization,
(25:28):
you could be a marketing If you're losing, man, you
are struggling, it's harder to sell, harder to get people
who want to be a part of what's going on.
So impacts everyone, not just the people who are actually
running the team and the people in the front office
and the coaching staff of the players. It affects everyone.
So I can understand all sides of this. I'm just
(25:51):
not sure this should even be a thing. Like I
look at it. I think we laugh about it because
no one else does it, and he does it sound
bites or it puts more pressure because of what he
says on Mike McCarthy or the players, and you look
at their lack of success. And I don't know this answer.
Has he always done this? Has he always done a
(26:12):
weekly It's been a long as time, for like thirty years,
for like, was he doing this back when Jimmy Johnson
was the head coach, when Troy Aikman was there and
Evan's like, that's what I wondered, because I get the
entire world has changed since then, but it doesn't feel
like there was as many distractions during that period of time.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
It feels, I want to say, within the last ten years.
I think this is he started to do this more.
Stephen Jones also does a hit. I don't know if
he does two a week, but he also does a hit.
So it's either Jerry or Steven who's going to get
the messaging out. And look, this is their approach, And yeah,
to your point, I mean they're a ten billion dollar
franchise or the only one in sport, so I can't
(26:52):
question that. He sounds like somebody who I think is
acknowledging that the clock's ticking in more ways I want.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
And he like that seeing his mortality types because he
went through three different emotions on that and that answer.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
And I feel bad hearing that from the sense. From
that standpoint, it's still like you upset granddad many a
couple of years ago when he didn't it, that's the
best way describing it. When he went to training camp
in Aux Nard a couple of years ago, he started
crying the first day there, and.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It sounded like he was heading towards crime for that
one on on everything, like he went from angry and
offended to like kind of coming to terms with it
to like I'm upset and I'm sad about it. Like
that's he went through different and he answered his answers,
went into what his emotions were while he was answering it.
(27:48):
That's why I guess I felt like I felt bad,
Like I guess that's why I'm sitting there, like felt
like I was coming off as defending him, like I
kind of I kind of felt bad, like I was
listening to like my my, my old head granddad, like
answer a question about something.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Let me ask you this. If there was one other
owner in the NFL that you guys would like to
hear from twice a week on local radio with their
in their city, who would it be?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
David Tepper.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Oh that's a good one. I didn't even think David Tepper.
I was gonna go Jimmy Haslam. No, yeah, yeah, Tepper's good.
Because Tepper can't control his emotions.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
He literally tried to take the hat off a hostess
host excuse me, at a restaurant because the sign.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
He saw outside Yeah, he threw He threw a can
of strychnine at some fan in a Jaguars game as
well too.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
It was water.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Oh, you know, same thing.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't know who.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Man Dan Snyder Back in the day, did Dan Snyder?
Did Little Danny ever do to a hit?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Two hits a week.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I mean just because he was he really was a
d bag. I mean that doesn't mean he's.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Going to interview well like if we're if, but he's
with them from time to time.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
He said was it was cool for a while. It
wasn't the most like like socially adjusted dude. You know,
you're not going to win. He's not going to win
most most charismatic guy.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Where he says on the spectrum or something.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I mean maybe he was.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I didn't put him on it, but maybe it was.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Now I'm thinking about breaking news.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
The great point was, I mean the way he walked,
like the way he did things. He just he just
looked like a little dude that that tried to be cool.
You know, that's that's kind of what it was.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
He wasn't athletic, is what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
No, he wasn't going to like be able to handle
the a gap or catch balls across the middle his spine,
who are going to play Division one football and then
maybe having ten years to lead, can you know lead?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, well listen now.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Lift weights every day like he wasn't one of them guys.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
I mean, maybe Jerry should figure out what better way
to communicate with those guys twice a week.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I think maybe he should, like my whole thing is
this right now that I'm kind of like kind of
settling in on it. I mean, shouldn't if you feel
like you have to call them out like that, because
they do have a job to do, right, So if
you feel like going on this show that you could
find yourself in a in a mind state where you're
(30:37):
threatening them that way, maybe you just do pre you know,
Either you do a pre recorded interview so that you
can you can hash that out and air that out
without it going over live radio, which wouldn't be as
good probably but nonetheless with service purpose. Or you give
(30:58):
them a list of you know, you can talk about this,
you can't talk about this, or like have something you have.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
A device like give them a device, like a better
way to communicate if you're not happy about you know
how This has got.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Me in if you think about it, somebody could have
been in the background rapid radioing them and telling them
like no, no, no, abort, abort, abort, don't ask them
that again, don't don't say that. And you know, if
they did have rapid radios, they'd be like us. You know,
the official communication device of Fox Sports Radio Rappid radios.
(31:31):
They're an instant push to talk walkie talkie, So they
could have interjected and really helped out the interview. And
they could have done it from anywhere because it's on
the national LTE coverage and there's no subscription in no
monthly feed. So yeah, in that business situation there, they
could have kept in touch with well the staff members
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Speaker 6 (32:20):
Tell Yeah, Yeah, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
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the Ugly right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 6 (32:41):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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Petros Papadakis will be here. Lots to get to, including
whatever the hell's going on at USC and any sort
of panic mode when it comes to the Doers as
they head into Game three of the NLCS. That'll be
(33:02):
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Speaker 2 (33:24):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
All right, lead to lab who's got what well?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
As we do each and every week, we start with
the good, and this week you delivered the good.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Jonas we mentioned this a little bit on Monday, But
take about college football because a couple of weeks in
a row, they've delivered every single time. And this past
Saturday was outstanding. Whether it was the finish to the
Ohio State Oregon game bleeding right into lsu Ole Miss
(34:02):
you know, personal preference. I got to stay up and
watch Hawaii play. They lost, but Ashton Genty and his
performance yet again, two hundred plus favorite to win the Heisman,
college football is delivered two bangers in a row.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's been a great season.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
By far and away, the most entertaining football we've seen
between the NFL and college football has been in the
college ranks.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Well, can't have good without the bad. Brady, what was
bad this week?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Oh, a number of things. Teams were bad. Obviously my
brownies are not good.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They're bad.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Jacksonville Jaguars over in London that had have been disappointed
to watch someone's bad, But probably Nick Sirianni talking trash
with a fan. I just I don't really understand why
you get involved in all of that. I understand those
emotions involved, and sometimes they can get the best of you,
but it feels like there's just always something there and
to them, like, I don't know, try to like cover
(34:57):
it up with the post press conference and everything else.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
A lot.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
He apologize, but that's something that should never happen. Did
we ever see that about Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin?
We never hear that about any of them, So, like,
why why does he think it's okay? It should never
come to that. So that's the bad for me. It's
(35:20):
just it's a bad look all the way around. And
even though Philly got the win, I just I feel
like there's something else going on there.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
And from bad two worse. LeVar, what was ugly this week?
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Well?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I got two and it's receiver based, all right. I
don't know how much runway. The Jets have to land
their jet at some point now that they've added DeVante Adams, like,
I think that could get ugly if it doesn't go
well with this acquisition bringing him in. And then the
second one you heard Q talking about the Brownies. I
(35:50):
think it's kind of ugly. The season's ugly, but what
makes it even more uglier is that you say that
Deshaun Watson gives you the best chance to win, but
then you trade away your one receiver. Damn, that's ugly
to me. So that's my ugly for the week. There
you go.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Damn, that is ugly.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's kind of ugly.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
What do the Browns have to catch strays here every week?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It's not a stray that was That was a direct.
They can always blame themselves. Yeah, I shot it off.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Well, listen, they'll be back, Brady will the fine will
where
Speaker 1 (36:28):
They will be back
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