October 19, 2024 • 53 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Jets go all in and trade for Davante Adams. The Old P, Petros Papadakis rips the USC marketing team for letting a Penn State fan run out the tunnel. Tom Brady is now a minority owner of the Raiders, but does this mean Bill Belichick could be heading to Vegas?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and with Lamar Rings,
Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You got to give the New York Jets credit, you guys,
because Man, that.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Team, the Jets or Aaron that.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Team, because the Jets, that franchise, they're not very good,
and they have been good for decades. But you know what,
every single Tuesday, they're dropping bombs.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
They're trying, they're trying. Man, good for them. Yeah, finally
got done yesterday. Come on, Varr, give him some credit.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I've given Aaron Rodgers all the credit. Aaron.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
He's trying, trying, He is trying. Aaron Rodgers is trying.
I'm with y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm with it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So Davante Adams the worst kept secret in the world
of sports?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
How was it a secret? Gone? Jat's told y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Man up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
He's headed to the Jets in exchange for it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
With that horrible hamstring.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's amazing that he's all good now, huh.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I mean he got that trade, that trade rehab.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
That casino flew in Vegas. He's headed to the Jets
in exchange. It's a conditional third round pick that could
become a second if he's a first or second team
All Pro so it won't, or if he's on the
Jets active roster for the AFC Title Game or the
Super Bowl. But nonetheless, DeVante Adams ends up back with
Aaron Rodgers, and yes, at least we know we're gonna
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find out at the end of this whole thing whether
or not Rogers still has it, because it feels like
everything's been laid in and everything's been put in place
for him to try and have a successful run at
the end of this thing. Following the loss on Monday.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Night, obviously really excited, obviously really right that.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I mean, he is the great I mean, whatever that
is that doesn't happen, it very magical.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, he controls everything, doesn't He's.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Controlling everything, even if we play his SoundBite or not.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, So initial thoughts, initial thoughts on the deal for
DeVante Adams.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
The first thing that stands out was the timing of it,
which you guys know, this had to have been done
before they played on Monday night football. Like that's the
crazy thing is he was probably he probably knew this
was going to happen come Tuesday, but he's out there
playing on Monday, thinking like, I could have Davonte ad
out here with me right now. So that's the first thing,
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is the as fast as the trade occurred, and then
on top of it, the restructured contract for DeVonta Adams.
This really was probably done on Monday. So it's kind
of crazy to think that he was going and playing
that game and probably in the back of his mind
and then seeing how things played out with Mike Williams,
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in particular that that final play and interception. Who Mike
Williams Now, I guess it's on the trading block. He's
what if that was like the last straw or if
there's anything anything that Mike Williams could have done in
that game where would have changed his fortune because he
was one of the big free agent signs in the
offseason that was supposed to help out this prosser. Now
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he ends up being on the trade block and they
get DeVonta Adams, who is going to be the number
one wide receiver, and I just wonder what happens for
Garrett Wilson, who is their number one wide receiver. But
clearly give them the history, given the ability of DeVonta
Adams is going to be knocked down to probably that
number two receiver. It would open things up for him,
But at the same time, he's not gonna get his
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many targets as it was in the past.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't think so. They said he was frustrated.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
They said he was frustrated before all of this took place,
Garrett Wilson And so to me, my, I just I'll
just look at it like this. Aaron Rodgers said he
can't wait to play with dev Anti Adams again. I mean,
the quote is out there, he said it. They they
knew it. This was this was orchestrated long before this
(04:08):
trade took place, whenever it took place. And whatever it is,
whatever it is Aaron Rodgers got going on.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I know you can't.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
It's not it's not politically correct to say the p hand.
But his hand is strong, and it's got a it's
got a pinky, pinky nail and a pinky ring on it,
and whatever it is he's saying.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
He's doing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
What do you mean by a p hand?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, I can't say it. You say it. You know
they drive Cadillacs. You know some people say that there
you go, there you go.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Why can't I say that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I don't know it's they say.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It's like like you can't say like the T shirt
that that the tank tops you can't call them. This
is like the movie Pooty Tang. It's kind of like
Pooty Tang. Yeah, it's kind of like Pooty Tang. But
for one reason or another, it's not politically correct to
say the p han or you can't say what tank
tops what we used to call like the regular like
(05:07):
Haynes tank tops. You can't call him the WB's anymore.
W Yeah, you can't call him that. It's like not
politically correct and you could end up getting canceled off
of saying it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
But anyway, he's wearing that tank top and he's got
a pinky ring, and he's got a pinky nail, and
he can cut his blunts with that pinky nail because
it's almost.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Like a razor blade. It's used like multiple purpose.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
The dude is really really he's he's he's manufacturing and
he's structuring this team the way he wants it. And
if anybody wants to deny that after what just took
place with Davante.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Adams, I mean you know go in peace. I can't.
I can't go with you on that one. I just can't.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
So if if at one point I sat there and
thought to myself, you know what, Aaron Rodgers had nothing
to do with Robert Salah losing his job. I know
he went on on air he said that that as
much is what it was, he had nothing to do
with it. Whatever's going on, it's the decision that's purely made.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I know. That's the reports. We heard Aaron. We heard
ab Albert Breer say we.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
You know it was out there that Aaron Rodgers had
nothing to do with it. Aaron Rodgers has everything to
do with what's taking place in New York right now,
everything to do with it. Whether he knows it or not,
whether he wants to acknowledge it or not, whatever it
may be, doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
He has everything to do with what's going on in
New York.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
And I think with this DeVante Adams trade, it's evident.
It's evident that he's orchestrating, and that he's maneuvering this
team to be the way that he wants it to be.
That was the most life we saw out of him
in this game, this last game. It was the most
life we saw out of him, and he played well.
That's the first time we saw him look happy, and
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he played with a lot of energy and he played well,
and it was the first game without Robert Silos.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
They lose the game.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
They still lose the game, even though the man was happy,
and then they go out and get Davante Adams.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
What's next? Well, what's next?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean, would you like to hear Rogers discuss the situation?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Are you sure we're going to hear him?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, we're gonna hear him. And I think there's maybe
a little bit of pushback on the timing when he
found out about it, in his involvement with this whole
thing here. He was yesterday on The Pat McAfee show,
starring the Great A. J.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Hawk.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Obviously really excited, loveday. He's a phenomenal player and a
dear friend. He was a crappy day yesterday. Obviously we
had a real good chance to get to three and
three and win a home game. Kind of gave that
one away. I was pissed driving home through traffic, had
a couple of messages. I was just not in the
mood to talk to anybody. Got home and Ted called me, so.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I finally called him back.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
And so about two point forty five latast night, I
heard the news. It's definitely uh adding left to our team.
But I think energetically, you know, with the change that
we had, that was kind of can't be disjointing for
for for energetics on the team.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
For guys want to know what does this mean?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Then the way brick candled everything, you know, was just
class and good leadership.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And now this move lets everybody know, Hey, it's on
us now because we're going all in and it's our
time to go out there and win games, get on
a run, which you know we all feel deep down
is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Good for Woody Johnson, I'll say this. You know, it's
a nice pleasant surprise for Rogers to not know about
this trade in advance and then to find out after
a tough loss like that when he got home, probably
having a little bit of scotch, you know, a two
or three finger glass, and next thing you know, he
gets the word that DeVante Adams is good for on
the team.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Hey, listen to you say it that way. It kind
of it kind of has a real pattern to it. Huh,
they lose, Aaron Rodgers is pissed off. Something happens? Would
he does something? Seems to be an equation what happens
if they lose with Divan that I just who's next?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
What's next?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I do wonder to Brady's point, because one of the
reports was that the deal was completed before the Monday
night games should putting out, which if that's the case,
then that it makes what he said even more Like
I wonder if he fell suspect. I wonder if he
felt more comfortable airing out Mike Williams knowing that, like, well,
(09:45):
I'm not really gonna have to deal with this guy
much longer, so why not, you know, because maybe if
he had to deal with Mike Williams, you know, for
the next foreseeable future, he would have been a little
bit more gentle with all those game.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Comments now that he's acting against Jackie Moon. Will Ferrell's
came from semi pro I don't know, if you're gonna
be a player general manager, you want to devalue him
by area mount like that. You probably want to build
him up, you know, take more accountability there. At least
that's how I would see it. So I mean, but
what's crazy about it is, in I don't know the
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span of twenty four hours they lose, they get Devanta Adams,
Mike Wims on the trade block, Hassan Redicks also on
the trade block.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I mean, so many things were cleaned up relatively fast now.
So either this has.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Been going on now for about a week since the
Roberts solid firing, or they had a meeting and they
kind of came to it and said, here's what we're
gonna do. We got two decisions. We can either kind
of limp through this thing, or since we've got Aaron here,
he's got another year left on his contract, let's just
go all in and let's do something that will entice
him to not only be here this year but also
(10:51):
next year. Because I do wonder if long term, as
we've speculated, who knows if Philly want to come back
after this year? Based on how will happen, it feels like, well,
DeVante's there, he's got Alan Lazard, He's got Garre Wilson,
which I don't know what the late relationship is like.
I don't know how the rest of the season is
going to go. But with those three receivers, the backfield,
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they had an improved offensive line. That group's only going
to get better too through another offseason, either because of
working together or they'll continue to add to it. And
this defense is already pretty much stay intact. It's a
good team on paper, good roster, and you've got this
window of time and say what you want about Whatddy
Johnson he's chosen to make this decision to allow Aaron
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Rodgers to have all his power, but he's also going
all in, like we will not look back at this
era for the New York Jets and say that their
owner didn't give that quarterback everything he's wanted. I mean, seriously,
what is he not provided Aaron Rodgers at this point
(11:55):
that he's wanted?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
A spouse?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Maybe I don't, I think maybe anything.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Maybe he's done that. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
But as of a plasta on the field, he's giving
him everything.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
A weed.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Rooms it does. It does feel like everything's been kind
of laid out for him.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
Page But you know what if Brady did the same thing.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Somebody sent somewhere listening to us right now is like
Tom Brady did the same thing. Yeah he did, he did,
Yes he did.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Blazer family, did they went all in, right, like go back,
go back. I mean I've said this back with Peyton
going to Denver. You don't want to know what one
of the biggest things that the Broncos did for Peyton
was they said, we we as a coaching staff Organzaic,
We'll learn your offense.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
You run whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You know Greg Rosskoff who does muscle activation and technique
m AT. That was a big part of Peyton's rehab
routine coming back from the neck injury. And he had
you know, Greg had worked with a team intimately for
a while, but that was another big piece of it, right,
having all the resources that he needed, you know, to
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be there to help him get through that initial season,
all that in the next couple of years where he
ends up setting records. But between all the different players
they had there, whether it's Damarius Thomas, god rest Is
soul Eric Decker, all of the people that came in there,
Wes welkeru ends up coming in there, I mean they
stacked that thing around him. They build up the offensive
line to the point where like he had his shot
(13:32):
at winning a Super Bowl. So I just there's something
to be said for that, Like I think we've we've
given Woody Johnson maybe some flat for how he's handled
the situation with Robert Salah. But if this works in
the end, this will ultimately we'll look back favorably and say, yeah, man,
like say what you want. But it worked for the Broncos,
(13:55):
it worked for the Buccaneers, it worked for the New
York Jets.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I mean there's a lot of owners who just sip
backing cast checks like they you know, we'll put out
a mediocre product, you know, as long as you keep
coming through the turnstiles and then we're good.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So at least he's I wonder how Jets fans feel.
I mean, do you do you feel like Aaron Rodgers
has that much control at this point? Yes, I mean
it seems rather obvious, but yeah, it is obvious.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well are you okay with that?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
They're not in a position I mean, this is this
is like one of those wild times where LeVar was
back during a single days. He's getting tied up or handcut.
He doesn't have any control. That's we're just going to flow.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's a great correct I was just gonna say that
you are like water. They're not in a position to
dictate to anybody the team should be run like at
all in any way whatsoever. They are not good and
they have not been good for years. So you take
whatever it is it's going to get you in the headlines,
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and whatever is going to get you back to back
to success. They don't know a damn thing about it.
So just go with the flow and see if this works.
Because you tried everything else and it so you may
as well just let Aaron Rodgers have whatever say he
wants at this point and then just ride it all
the way through. So, I mean, I'm a little skeptical.
I've you know, been very bullish on the Jets that
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they're going to be a playoff team hoping for the best.
I don't want to have to admit that LeVar was
right at the end of this whole thing, but you know,
at least we're going to get an answer.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Adams if he's healthy, all right, if he's good to go.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Can I give you the updated NFL playoff predictions as
of today?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
All right?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Can we get some game show music here, some sort
of music. We have a live studio band.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Type of music here, all right?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Now?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Where we go? That's the one right there? Too.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
All right, If you recall, the Jets were sitting in
the number eight spot before their Monday night football game
versus Buffalo Bills, which they lost, dropping them to two
and four. Now the question is how low did they go?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
LeVar?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
How far the New York Jets drop in the playoff picture?
If the playoffs or to start.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Today, I would say they be the Well, I think
they'd be out. Well, they are out.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
They are out, but it's not as significant of a
drop as you would think.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Jonas, do you want to you want.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
To try this, I'm going to say they're in the
ten spot.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
That's right there on the ten spot. Oh okay, he
most likely looked it up. But they're in the ten spot.
And what's interesting about that is if they beat Pittsburgh
in Week seven, their playoff probability increases to sixty six percent.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
They're currently one game out of first place when they
lost this last game to Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
And what's crazy is their current playoff probability is fifty
seven percent. It's by far highest of any of the
teams that are on the outside looking in. In fact,
it's even higher than the Colts, who are at three
and three currently sitting in the seventh spot.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
So this thing sets.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Up for the Jets to make a run to make
it in based on the nfl dot Com playoff predictor,
even though they're sitting in the tenth spot, a couple
of spots, a few spots, excuse me, outside of that
final playoff spot.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
How about that? That sounds good?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Should you put that in your pipe and smell?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I mean, I think the Davante Adams move is significant.
Now he's got two guys that he trusts. He's got
two one guy that is a legitimate, he's a legitimate, legitimate,
one receiver and threat. I mean, you got Breeze Hall
in the backfield. I'm if it doesn't work. If it
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doesn't work out, I mean, I don't know what you
blame it on. I don't know what you blame it on.
I don't because I mean the edition of Adams they're
already you know, on paper, they're already just a super
super stacked team.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Bad for Gardner Minshew and Aidan.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
O'Connell and also the training staff for the Raiders. I mean,
they couldn't get his hamstring right now, He's got to
go to the Jets to get a.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Clearly they did a good enough job where he was tradable.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
That's true, passed the physical. There you go, because you
have to take up physical when you get there, you.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Have to pass that.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
So they did well enough to get him, you know,
get him out, get him through the physical, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Good job to the to the Vegas Raiders. Yeah, train boy, Yeah,
way to get it done.
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Speaker 2 (18:58):
There are traditions on this show that must be upheld,
and one of those traditions is the op There Petros Papadakis.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM five seven
e LA Sports, a Fox College football analyst, and you
can get him on X at the old p Petros.
(19:18):
Good morning, How you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Good morning? Hi Petros? Right here? So, uh hello.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Just trying to gauge, just trying to gauge your feelings
on just some of the fallout from USC's difficult lost.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Why you want to talk about that when me and
him should be talking about that.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, you introduced to the guest and ask the question.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Go ahead, actually invite Colin Cowardon too. Let's bring Colin
into this too as well.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
You know, you know, Colin seems to be more of
an apologist for USC than than you would be.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Petros.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
So let's well, that totally makes sense since he went
to Eastern Washington.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah, I just I'm trying to figure that one out,
you know, like, you know, he's not an alumni, but well,
he's in LA.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
And he's feeling good. He's you know, I mean, he's
a rich guy in LA, and when you're a rich guy.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
In LA, you meet a lot of USC people, especially
if you live where he lives. He doesn't live in
the valley. You know, it used to be when I
was a kid, like the valley people. The valley is
the San Fernando Valley. There's other valleys, but when you
say the valley or valley, girl, you're talking.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
About the San Fernando Valley.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
And it used to be like people up there and
West LA was kind of more of a UCLA vibe.
And then Orange County and the South Bay maybe was
more of a USC thing. And I don't know if
that's the same. But Colin Cowherd when he moved here
and lived in Manhattan Beach, which is really due central
(20:52):
for people from out of town, and that's what, Yeah,
a lot of apples.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I never I never toned into a USC fan though,
you know, I never turned too well.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
You know, you're kind of dipped in it, you know,
some some other ways, you know, through your history. It's
not like you're not searching for an identity. Oh right,
you know what I mean, You're not like, Wow, I
can't tell everybody about the Eastern Washington offense and big
play VA. Uh so they've they move on to USC.
(21:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I can't tell you why.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
People like the most people around town that didn't go
to USC that love USC are like normal LA sports
fan types, right and not you know, really rich guys
wearing sunglasses that aren't made for indoors or outdoors and uh,
just kind of feeling himself in that way.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I mean, did you were you like, did you feel
like Lincoln Rally was deserving of an.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Apology even though it's only halftime? No, and even if
they won the game. I mean, who cares?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I told you guys last week.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
And Penn State's its own thing and they have their
own issues trying to get over the hump and the
Big Ten with Michigan and Ohio State, and obviously the
league is totally different now, and we're all trying to
figure out what it's like for these teams to play
each other week in and week out. There's no precedent
and it's hard to kind of gauge. But I told
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you last week, I mean, USC season ended when they
lost at Minnesota. With their schedule and looking at them
as a team and how that game went, that was
it that killed all the Oh.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
My god, Lincoln Riley's going to re imagine this.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
I was really heartened by the LSU victory, and I
do think that they've improved in some ways, especially on
their defensive coaching staff. But you lost at Minnesota. Who
cares what happens against Penn State? Now you lost at Minnesota.
So yeah, you turn around and beat a really good
Penn State team with a guy that his fan base
(23:02):
has their own issues with and tight games, James Franklin,
and it just became kind of a parody after the
halftime thing from Coha Coward. But ultimately, I don't see
what the big deal is. You've already you lost your
second game in early October at Minnesota to PJ.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Fleck. Season's over in the Big Ten.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Find me somebody that loses at Minnesota and goes on
to greatness in that league. It's probably never happened. So
and I know it's a new I mean, am I wrong?
Kinda Yeah, he's just did a good job. Inn It's
still Minnrona.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
No.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
I mean, if we're talking about the paxwell, it's like going, Uh,
I think it's a sky, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Uh If.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Every time I say ski, you ma, somebody calls me
and says it's sky, And every time I say sky,
somebody says it's yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I feel like now that you say that, I've heard
it both ways spelled like ski.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I, I've heard it both ways.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
But yeah, I don't know. I don't really know what
USC's future is. But I lost faith in the resurgence
of the program when they lost at Minnesota. So whatever
happened at Penn State is kind of you know, it's
already it's like throwing crap at the wall.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's already covered in crap.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Can well we all know people who have done that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I know that story.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Anyway, I would have been over it. And look, it's
in transition to a new league. There is there's so
many moving parts that honestly, like, I was kind of
more curious this season than having expectations for Southern Cow.
They we're going to win eleven games or anything, right,
But what I was getting to and the thing that
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bothered me the most was what we talked about earlier
in the show, that they're allowing people to pay well
for eighteen hundred dollars to run out the tunnel with
the team, and yet that guy you allow a pencil
like and they're saying, yeah, anyone can do it, even
the opposing team.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
How do you allow that? How happened?
Speaker 8 (25:20):
The USC marketing department is some of the same people.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
That were there when Pete.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Carroll first took over, and it was kind of a
it was interesting they're not I don't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's embarrassing fifteen hundred bucks.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
I mean, it costs like ten thousand dollars just to
stand on the sideline at Michigan while they're warming up
and get bullied by security and running out of the
tunnel at the LA Coliseum is supposed to be a
really special thing in the pantheon.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Of college football.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
I felt like it was, and you can see from
the video it's pretty cool. And it's unfortunate that they
they are that thirsty for fifteen sixteen hundred bucks that
they're letting like we always had when I was on
the team many years ago, whether we were at home,
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in the hotel or away, you know, maybe we had
some big donor with us on the bus or on
the plane, and sure they walked out with the team
when we ran out, you know, it came out after
with the rest of the staff or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
And that was a special thing.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
And that's because those people gave millions of dollars or
you know, did something for somebody, a doctor that saved
somebody's life or something like that. And now any meat
face JABBRONI can do it. And it was sad to see.
It was very disheartening.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I guess the way I'd put it is, there are
certain moments in college football to me that are priceless,
like there shouldn't you shouldn't have the ability to put
a price on it, and like we you know, we've
all kind of walked out that tunnel, whether it was
you know, Southern Cow or Penn State or Notre Dame,
what have you. And I think that's what what kills
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me a little bit is like as are like society
become okay with just the money part of everything, where
like everything's gonna be about money now, Like can it
just be about the experience?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Can it just be about the fact that, no, that's.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Only there for a select few, Like it's only there
for those guys that come into the program, that have
been in the program, that our coaching stats or maybe,
as you pointed out, like a gigantic donor or something
to that nature. But to have like a fan, a
random guy who's a Penn State fan, like that blew
my mind. And it feels, I'll just I'll put it
(27:47):
very blunt. It feels like they're hoarring themselves out here
in la Come on, Yeah, it was like watching Pretty Woman.
But as for like people running out of the tunnel
and going, oh, that's interesting to see what they're doing there.
Hookers don't look like that, not like Julia Roberts nineteen eighties,
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nineteen eighty Santa Monica Boulevard hooker does not look like
horse face.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Julia Roberts in the eighties call de mure.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
And laughing and having a great time and getting her
fingers snapped in the jewelry a big mouth.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
It had a big mouth, the horse face. You swallow
your whole giant head break. Wait, which one? I don't
you gotta dope that one? You might have to dumpe
that one, the.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
One with the Notre Dame helmet, that's really up for that.
I cannot defend it. I will not defend it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
The USC marketing should be ashamed of themselves. The more
and more college football mirrors pro football, and of course
there's so much money being made, it's very hard to
imagine that we won't and don't, and we're kind of
like this weird mutated version of pro football. Remember when
the guy fell in the toxic waist and RoboCop and
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he was like, help me, that's college football right now.
So it's kind of it's a mutated, sort of vibe
pro football model that we're headed towards, but we don't
really know what that is, and we want to keep
our traditions, and we want to say that it's still
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something special and still something earned, and still something that
means something. And I think that's true. But where it
all falls after the money is pocketed, I think we're
finding that it's a little bit different than what we
experienced and what our experience is. I think this USC,
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this tunnel for high or whatever you want to call it,
is a pretty and disturbing thing. And I hope US
he cuts it off after this year. I don't know
how far ahead they sell it or what, but I
hope that they've been embarrassed enough by it or their
marketing department, Hey has been embarrassed enough by it to.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Stop Petros other than the fact that it was a
homeless guy and he got to participate in practice like
and I mean this series and that was on Clay Hilton, Ryeah,
And that's what That's my point. What is the difference
between me.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
And the homeless program at Georgia Southern for walk Ons
is second to enough.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That's what I've heard. But what is the difference between
Clay Helton and Lincoln Riley? So far at USC.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Ninety million dollars to buy out Clay Helton and his
whole staff and now Mike Bone in all of his glory,
and hey, we all thought Lincoln, Yeah, you don't know.
We thought Lincoln Riley was a great hire.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
When he was hired. It seemed good.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
I would rather have a program builder type, like a
Matt Campbell or something like that and see how that
works on the West.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
But we all thought it was a good hire.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
But they gave him a ten year deal, and now
there's a seventy million dollar buyout and it looks like
leg and Riley's future as an NFL play caller.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And not only that, but if we're really.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Going to go deep into it, the Los Angeles media
is not a real sharp, toothy media. I am the
probably the meanest guy in the LA media, and most
people just think of me as a hermit that lives
in a basement and an eccentric and no one cares
what I think. I don't hang out with Lebron James
or the Kardashians or anything like that. The LA media
(31:40):
is easy. I mean, you could have the LA media
eating out of your hand. Pete Carroll ran.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
A proven, deeply corrupt college football program and he's still
regarded as a savior even though he ruined like two
generations of USC football, he's teaching again.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yes, he's back on campus, you know.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
I mean if Pete Carroll, if Pete Carroll has it
figured out like Lincoln, I don't want you to ask
Pete Carroll about defense or how to make your team bigger,
stronger and faster whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Just learn to deal with the LA media.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
I mean, these twenty five year old beat riders with
Pube stashes just own they own Lincoln Riley. They get
them all flustered and looking. It's like and honestly, if
you can't handle the LA media, you just you're probably not.
You probably got to go call plays somewhere. It just
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doesn't seem like a good fit. And it seems like
it gets worse and worse the more accountable he's being held.
So it's a it's a sad situation at US. Not
as sad as over at UCLA, but sad nonetheless.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I mean, they did beat Hawaii barely, yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I don't know where UCLA's next win is coming from.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
They could get Rutgers this week, but they got to
go all the way out there and Rutgers be Washington.
Washington lost missed on three field goals, but they still
beat him out there in Piscataway So and they have
Fresno State at the end of the year. But who
else is you you CLA gonna beat? I mean what
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what on their schedule makes you feel like they're gonna
get another win? Presno State ain't that bad. Who knows
what the situation will be later in the season, but
U c l A is that's an ugly situation. And
that's an ad that I think has completely lost faith
in all the support in Martin Jardmond over there.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
How we feeling ahead of Game three for the for
the Doer?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Were we out with the Doyles? Oh?
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Well, you know, there's a lot of excitement in town
and the more look the Dodgers winning that game against
the Padres, what it did was knock us off the
air a whole bunch for uh for this week. And
it calmed my boss, or I guess our boss in
many ways, Don Martin, it calmed him down considerably. What'd
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that sound like, my miam? If they make the World Series?
He told me this in the suite the other day,
right before the Dodger game where they won they beat
San Diego and we got out of there. He said,
my miam, if they go to the World Series, I'll
cancel the Christmas party.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
And that was enough for me.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
You know that that's the greatest thing ever last year
because last year, you know, the Dodgers got eliminated so quickly,
and you know, the three playoff games weren't enough for
Don Martin's budget at the end of the year, so
he sent us to do this gigantic Christmas party for
like seven hundred people in thousand.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oh, is that why that took place?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, of course it is. Why else did we never
done one before?
Speaker 8 (34:50):
And literally like we had all these giveaways and we like,
we don't know, like who gets the raffle tickets, you know,
whoever passing them out? And like the promotions guy that
passed out the raffle tickets was like giving raffle tickets
to like people that were sponsors and like the cooks
at the bar, and like people will winning.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So like we'd give away something and people be like,
you're a fraud Petross, you lose a You guys are loose.
You guys are terrible.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
You know, we're literally being heckled at our own event.
Sounds like Roberto. It was terrible. It was, and so
this year I'm trying to avoid that. If if the
Dodgers can make the World Series. Do you guys always
get heckled at your own events? No, just when they
like you guys. You guys ever heard that Depeche Mode song?
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Oh my gosh, everything counts in large amounts, the grabbing hands,
grab all they can.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
All for themselves after all good.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
You know, you get a couple of drinks in people
and you give away a key chain or a lanyard.
It's there's nothing in America that makes people insane more
than like a free T shirt, you know. So people
feel like they want something and they had a couple
of drinks, they can get very angry. But usually we're
very good about distributing prizes and things like that. The
Christmas party went a little sideways and the listeners.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Let us know, yeah, it did seem like things are
getting a little bit loose there.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
We gave away a prize to like this hot chick.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
It was like a sponsor for like some like champagne company,
and she came like dancing up there with her.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Prize, and I thought we were about to get bum rushed.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Well, Petro's always a good time like.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Woodstock ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Hey, does Lee have any questions for Petros chopping chime
in anything?
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Ali that I know about the fat bear contest, I
also follow that.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Oh Jesus, so what was your conclusion because it isn't
an over now.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
Yeah, well, Matre's brutal. You know, one of them got
dragged into the sea or river and killed. Like I
just don't want to everybody's so upset about the bear murder.
But everybody gets all like squirmy about the bears killing
each other in the wild. Okay, what about the fish
or eating like three hundred fish in a pop and
everybody's all fisher.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Is such a great point, a p.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Who you calling this weekend? What game? What game? You
got this second?
Speaker 8 (37:27):
I'm being uh in October. Apparently I'm not good enough
to call football. So I'm off this.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Week all right? Wow? And next week?
Speaker 8 (37:33):
So I just I just love having weeks off during
the college football season.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Makes me feel very very useful. Dang, you only get
so I feel like you're being sarcastic right now.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Believe yes, I'm quite disappointed in my schedule this week
and next week, but apparently there's like eight games to
call for me in November.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
So you know who November spawned a monster?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Okay, you know who to talk to though, God, yes,
that's correct, Petros.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Get him all.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Lord, please help my bosses to think I'm better than
Spencer Tillman and Yogi Rob.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Okay, all right, p at the old pe on Twitter
is where you can get him or on x whatever
you want to call it is Petros papadaeikis. He is
the cost of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch and five to seventy LA
Sports a Fox College Football analyst and our good buddy
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here every Wednesday, always a fun time with Petros.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
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Speaker 2 (38:45):
So Kirk Menahan threw this out recently that he's talked
to two sources a couple of sources out there that
have said that Tom Brady's first move when he takes
over the Raiders is to reach out engage Bill the
Check's interest in the head coaching. So they were listening
to our show. I feel like we were kicking that
around a couple of days ago. The potential. Yeah, guys, man,
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it's a little obvious, right, I mean it's we're taking
full credit.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's not that original of a thought. Guy, We're taking
full credit. We're first show out. Yeah, I'm not I
give credit for that. We're going to do it.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Here's a tough part about that stuff coming out now
is Antoni appears as your head coach and everything you
do when you first take over, whether you're responsible for something,
all right, So if it's the operations, the roster, what
have you, could be the border you've got to take
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responsibility for. Then what happens from that point moving forward,
and then you're setting precedents. So in this case, when
he comes in there and this report gets out there,
it's like, okay, well, then any head coach that ever
comes in to be the Las Vegas rate, it's as
long as time Brittie's part of the ownership is going
to be subcheck to while they have their job still
someone else reaching out to see if Bill Belichick or
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the next head coaching candidate is potentially ready, Like this
is the sort of thing where when you when you
take over, you don't want what you're trying to do
behind the scenes to become public.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You'd like it to stay.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Well, how true do you think it is?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Or is it like you said, it's not like it's
a military secret to have that thought process, is it?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Well that.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
You would rather other people speculate rather than saying, this
is what the first thing Tom Brady's doing, right, because
that comes from somewhere, right, And all I'm saying is
like you would immediately want to come out make a
statement and say, hey, we're supporting the team, We're excited
to see what they can do the rest of this year.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
You know this is you know however.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
He sees it, But you just don't want to set
a precedent that now moving forward, everyone's going to look
back to and say, well, you know, he took it
over and then he was doing this, or he took
over and then like, is anyone ever safe? Because now
you're constantly going to have to deal with the speculation
that no matter what happens, there's always gonna be someone
shopping out there for the next best thing, the next
best head coach et cetera. The other thing is, you know,
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obviously he's tasked with I guess the operations whatever technically
his title is. But he's part of the ownership group,
so it can't fire himself, right, I mean, I guess
he technically could step away from it, but he's still
going to be a part of that organization, and so
it's probably better off that he's just looked at this
kind of silent partner, minority owner.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
I mean, Richard Seymour is.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
A part of the group that took over, you know,
that invested into the Raiders. And what's interesting is you
didn't hear anything really about that until we heard that
it was approved and it was like, oh, by the way,
Richard Seymour was part of this group. Yeah, So I
don't know. I mean, I understand he's Tom Brady. He's
a huge name. It's hard for him to probably keep secrets.
But it would be better off if the strategy wasn't
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fully out there for all to see, especially considering you're
in the middle of a season. It's one thing if
this is the off season, you can have these conversations
about people's job security and moving on to Bill Belichick,
but at a fairness to ap At, a fairness to
every head coach that takes that position moving forward, and
probably even buil Like if Bill Belichick, if I'm singing
his seat, I'm probably thinking to myself, Hey, Tom, why
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don't we wait till maybe the end of the season,
you know, unless you guys make a decision and that
job's open. Let's not talk about that job being open.
It's only fair. I think a lot of coaches who've
been around enough probably feel that way.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
And would echo that sentiment.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I just wonder, how, like when things like this happen,
how far before things like this surface are they being discussed?
Like Tom Brady isn't kicking in the gear because now
he's getting to approval. Tom Brady knew he was going
to get the approval at some point, somebody told him, like,
it's going to take a little time, but we'll get
to approval. Are you saying there's like a thing like
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tampering that exists, and.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I mean or colluding or whatever it may be?
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Like even this same thing with Aaron Rodgers said can't
wait to play with you again? Like that one just
stands out big time, Like he was so sure when
he said it like when these things start to happen
and execution of whatever the next you know, phases or
whatever it is you're going to do, whatever takes place,
(43:20):
How long before it gets to the public is it
already being discussed. I would be curious to be a
like to know like at one point, like, oh, that
that conversation started, you know, eight nine months ago, Oh
it started two years ago, whatever it may have been.
I just don't feel like these types of things that
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get leaked out when they do, and it happens when
it happens, is in the moment, like boom, now he's
got the he's got the approval, the group's got the approval.
Now here's what's being leaked out about what he's thinking
he wants to do. Like that's it happened before, it
happened before. Now it had to have happened before. Now,
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I would assume.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
We can speculate.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
But again, that's that's where I feel like, it's just
it's unfair when when you're taking over it is now
part of the organization. It's fair for us to do
because that's our job. Like we kind of have to speculate,
we kind of have to read into things and read
the tea leaves and give an opinion on it. But
as far as the actual operations of what Tom Brady's
now doing, it's it's now.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
It's different.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
You're you're held accountable to a certain degree, and everything
you do is going to be measured and monitored, and
it's going to be done so in looking at it
from the prism of the Las Vegas Raiders, because that's
who you represent, and this is an organization that's had
a hard time finding traction. Maybe they're unfortunately their best
you know, era or time where you felt positive about
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this team was when John Gruden was that coach, and
so you're now trying to kind of recapture that.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
However, that fell apart, and I feel like now.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
It's going to be hard to be able to build
up this trust in the team and being able to
be a team that competes unless they're able to have
more stability with their coaching positions, their front office everything
else that goes along with that.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
By the way, the more you hear guys that were
on that team, like Max Crosby talk about John Gruden,
the more you start to get the vibe that he
got screwed, Like you know you guys talked about maybe
it was yesterday's show about Jerry Jones. Maybe it's not
even about winning games with Jerry Jones. Maybe it's really
(45:33):
about the attention that he's able to garner and building
the brand of the Dallas Cowboys and how valuable that
has been. They don't win s and yet it's the
most valuable franchise.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Why.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
If I'm Mark Davis, I've had in my lifetime watching
my dad run this team. If I'm a Rooney, I've
had this moment in my lifetime with my dad running
this that they were the focal point of the National
Football League. The Raiders have a tremendous fan base. And
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maybe it's not about winning right now. Maybe it's purely
about moving the needle in terms of the attention that
you're able to generate and the value you're able to
generate by the people who are associated with what it
is that you're doing. And if you bring in a
Bill Belichick along with the ownership group having and boasting
Tom Brady being a part of it, that's enough to
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sell sell hope, that's enough to create intrigue and interest
to it.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Already really really robust.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
Fan base I mean, I think this is more just
as much a marketing play, marketing move even for the league.
The league gets to brag about and embrace the fact
that one of its greatest players of all time is
now on an ownership group of one of the most
storied franchises in league history. There's something to be said there,
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The story can be told there, and it can be monetized.
So to me, I feel like sometimes.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
It's just as big a move for what it represents
off the field than even what it represents on the field.
You mentioned Jerry Jones, by the way, we should point
out we discussed his comments towards the radio host Sean
and RJ in Dallas. He doubled down, apparently talking with
Diana Rassini, Oh, transitioning off that, well, well, I mean,
(47:34):
are we, like, what else do we have on it?
He mentioned Jerry Jones, So I thought I figured we
were going to get I.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
Was just going to say this about Belichick too. It's
always a solid when you're a coach who wants to
get back into it. When you have someone too that
immediately gets his name out there, right, and there's no
one who's gonna, you know, advocate more for Bill Belichick
be a reference for Bill Belichick than Tom Brady. And
so I'm not saying this is necessarily the motivation and
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behind it if those conversations are happening, but it's good
when you're on TV, you're out there and you know
you've already got Oh, there's one team that's gonna be interested, right,
I mean, Tom Brady's helping create a market for Bill
Belichick and a desire or last perceived desire for for
Bill Belichick after going through an offseason where I think
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we all thought he was gonna get a job, and
it seemed like there's some hesitation with some organizations because
they know what that might bring.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
That might bring a guy who's gonna come in.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
And control the whole thing, and there's people in positions
of power that don't want to give up that power.
So there's also an element here of this being positive
for Bill Belichick. And you know, I'm not, again not
saying it's necessarily by design, but like an ancillary effect
of this would be Bill Belichick's names back out there
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for a head coaching job a before it's open, but
b and we're what six weeks into the season, seven
weeks in the season, like that's that's that's another piece
of this that again maybe not by design, but definitely
part of the conversation when it comes to, you know,
Tom Braddy's involvement in an NFL franchise, but how it
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may help some of the people that he's been involved
with in the past.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Let's just say that it happens hypothetically. What do you
think Robert Kraft's thinking, Like, wait a second, I thought
you guys didn't like each other, Like why couldn't we
have figured this out towards the.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
Ends behind the scenes, Like no, they they Cat's been
burying the hatchet.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah, Belichick and Brady seem like they're on great terms now,
like like almost them not being like playing the coach
player role was better for their relationship because it feels
like Robert Kraft's kind of on the outside looking in
and those guys have have you know, kind of.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
Maybe only because that's that's self Like like you said,
it's a family owned it's a family ram business. Yeah,
it's a family ram business. So Robert Kraft could have
been in on this. But if you're on a choose
fan over you know, work family, then that's what he did,
and that's that's what he's doing. So he's living with that.
(50:07):
I mean, that's that's not Again, if if it were different,
I would assume that Robber Kraft would be like, why
would you go anywhere else to have ownership? Your value
is here the I mean, could you imagine the impact
that this this move would would have on on especially
right now where where the currently the New England Patriots are.
(50:31):
I mean, they're in the same type of situation. I mean,
maybe they have a quarterback that so they're a little
bit ahead of Las Vegas maybe, but I mean to
have have that scenario. Only thing I would say is
is that you're not bringing Bill Belichick into that scenario though.
That's the only thing that's that's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
So and we don't know that they're going to I mean,
I think you've you've got to be open minded if
you're Tom Brady too, in the sense that, like you
just had Josh McDaniels there, you got to fuck off
that kind of match that, like you had the New
England Trust kind of there, Like if Bill Belichick comes
back to coach, who's OC would be Josh mc daniels.
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I mean, I would think so.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Why would you think so? Because then now is Mark
Davis looking at it like, I.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Just I just hired this previously and it didn't work,
And yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
The LB of it was bad. That's a bad move.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Vance Joseph was the head coach in Denver and now
he's a DC truth.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
But was it as was? Was it? Did it play
out the same way?
Speaker 5 (51:30):
Like that kind of played out pretty public that there
was a like a disconnect between Daniels and Daniel McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Daniels Daniels would ass and.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
The players Mike mcdanda's your guy in Miami, McDaniel with
no sea I.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Just said it before.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
I'm not sure it's the right fit anyway for Bill
Belichick and the time frame he's looking to succeed and win.
And if Don Show's record matter is, you know you're
taking over the race job, you're probably gonna have to
be coaching their six seven years. I think in order
to be able to surpass Don Shul's win loss record,
maybe maybe it's fall four or five, but different challenge
if that's your motivation. And obviously, if you're talking about
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a team to go win a Super Bowl, there's a
lot of things missing from that roster that I think
you need to be competitive consistently week in and week out.
So I'm not sure that's the right fit. And that's
kind of why I just say, like it's good for
Bill Belichick though, that his name's out there and that
there is a potential like thought that oh no, they
could hire him as well.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
But I think the last little thing.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
I'll say about the announcement of Tom Brady and getting
the minority stake is the way they're setting him up
with him being having control over operations or overseeing that however.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
You want to phrase it.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
It's setting him up to be the majority owner or
at least the face of the group that's going to
have the majority stake in it. Because if he's getting
intricately involved in the operations of the actual organization, like
we know he knows football, we know he knows you know,
what he sees in talent, what he sees in other players,
et cetera.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
But if he's getting involved with the operations and learning
from that standpoint, to me, that's what this is really about.
This is really setting up for him eventually to takeover
as majority owner at some point to put together, you know,
more capital to end up buying out Mark Davis, who
might turn into like a limited partner or a minority owner,
but to give them eventually a majority share of the team.
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Like I think that's where this is all heading
Is the best of two pros and with Lamar Rings,
Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You got to give the New York Jets credit, you guys,
because Man, that.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Team, the Jets or Aaron that.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Team, because the Jets, that franchise, they're not very good,
and they have been good for decades. But you know what,
every single Tuesday, they're dropping bombs.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
They're trying, they're trying. Man, good for them. Yeah, finally
got done yesterday. Come on, Varr, give him some credit.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I've given Aaron Rodgers all the credit. Aaron.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
He's trying, trying, He is trying. Aaron Rodgers is trying.
I'm with y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm with it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So Davante Adams the worst kept secret in the world
of sports?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
How was it a secret? Gone? Jat's told y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Man up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
He's headed to the Jets in exchange for it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
With that horrible hamstring.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's amazing that he's all good now, huh.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I mean he got that trade, that trade rehab.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
That casino flew in Vegas. He's headed to the Jets
in exchange. It's a conditional third round pick that could
become a second if he's a first or second team
All Pro so it won't, or if he's on the
Jets active roster for the AFC Title Game or the
Super Bowl. But nonetheless, DeVante Adams ends up back with
Aaron Rodgers, and yes, at least we know we're gonna
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find out at the end of this whole thing whether
or not Rogers still has it, because it feels like
everything's been laid in and everything's been put in place
for him to try and have a successful run at
the end of this thing. Following the loss on Monday.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Night, obviously really excited, obviously really right that.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I mean, he is the great I mean, whatever that
is that doesn't happen, it very magical.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, he controls everything, doesn't He's.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Controlling everything, even if we play his SoundBite or not.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, So initial thoughts, initial thoughts on the deal for
DeVante Adams.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
The first thing that stands out was the timing of it,
which you guys know, this had to have been done
before they played on Monday night football. Like that's the
crazy thing is he was probably he probably knew this
was going to happen come Tuesday, but he's out there
playing on Monday, thinking like, I could have Davonte ad
out here with me right now. So that's the first thing,
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is the as fast as the trade occurred, and then
on top of it, the restructured contract for DeVonta Adams.
This really was probably done on Monday. So it's kind
of crazy to think that he was going and playing
that game and probably in the back of his mind
and then seeing how things played out with Mike Williams,
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in particular that that final play and interception. Who Mike
Williams Now, I guess it's on the trading block. He's
what if that was like the last straw or if
there's anything anything that Mike Williams could have done in
that game where would have changed his fortune because he
was one of the big free agent signs in the
offseason that was supposed to help out this prosser. Now
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he ends up being on the trade block and they
get DeVonta Adams, who is going to be the number
one wide receiver, and I just wonder what happens for
Garrett Wilson, who is their number one wide receiver. But
clearly give them the history, given the ability of DeVonta
Adams is going to be knocked down to probably that
number two receiver. It would open things up for him,
But at the same time, he's not gonna get his
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many targets as it was in the past.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't think so. They said he was frustrated.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
They said he was frustrated before all of this took place,
Garrett Wilson And so to me, my, I just I'll
just look at it like this. Aaron Rodgers said he
can't wait to play with dev Anti Adams again. I mean,
the quote is out there, he said it. They they
knew it. This was this was orchestrated long before this
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trade took place, whenever it took place. And whatever it is,
whatever it is Aaron Rodgers got going on.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I know you can't.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
It's not it's not politically correct to say the p hand.
But his hand is strong, and it's got a it's
got a pinky, pinky nail and a pinky ring on it,
and whatever it is he's saying.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
He's doing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
What do you mean by a p hand?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, I can't say it. You say it. You know
they drive Cadillacs. You know some people say that there
you go, there you go.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Why can't I say that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I don't know it's they say.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It's like like you can't say like the T shirt
that that the tank tops you can't call them. This
is like the movie Pooty Tang. It's kind of like
Pooty Tang. Yeah, it's kind of like Pooty Tang. But
for one reason or another, it's not politically correct to
say the p han or you can't say what tank
tops what we used to call like the regular like
(05:07):
Haynes tank tops. You can't call him the WB's anymore.
W Yeah, you can't call him that. It's like not
politically correct and you could end up getting canceled off
of saying it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
But anyway, he's wearing that tank top and he's got
a pinky ring, and he's got a pinky nail, and
he can cut his blunts with that pinky nail because
it's almost.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Like a razor blade. It's used like multiple purpose.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
The dude is really really he's he's he's manufacturing and
he's structuring this team the way he wants it. And
if anybody wants to deny that after what just took
place with Davante.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Adams, I mean you know go in peace. I can't.
I can't go with you on that one. I just can't.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
So if if at one point I sat there and
thought to myself, you know what, Aaron Rodgers had nothing
to do with Robert Salah losing his job. I know
he went on on air he said that that as
much is what it was, he had nothing to do
with it. Whatever's going on, it's the decision that's purely made.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I know. That's the reports. We heard Aaron. We heard
ab Albert Breer say we.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
You know it was out there that Aaron Rodgers had
nothing to do with it. Aaron Rodgers has everything to
do with what's taking place in New York right now,
everything to do with it. Whether he knows it or not,
whether he wants to acknowledge it or not, whatever it
may be, doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
He has everything to do with what's going on in
New York.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
And I think with this DeVante Adams trade, it's evident.
It's evident that he's orchestrating, and that he's maneuvering this
team to be the way that he wants it to be.
That was the most life we saw out of him
in this game, this last game. It was the most
life we saw out of him, and he played well.
That's the first time we saw him look happy, and
(07:12):
he played with a lot of energy and he played well,
and it was the first game without Robert Silos.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
They lose the game.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
They still lose the game, even though the man was happy,
and then they go out and get Davante Adams.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
What's next? Well, what's next?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean, would you like to hear Rogers discuss the situation?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Are you sure we're going to hear him?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, we're gonna hear him. And I think there's maybe
a little bit of pushback on the timing when he
found out about it, in his involvement with this whole
thing here. He was yesterday on The Pat McAfee show,
starring the Great A. J.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Hawk.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Obviously really excited, loveday. He's a phenomenal player and a
dear friend. He was a crappy day yesterday. Obviously we
had a real good chance to get to three and
three and win a home game. Kind of gave that
one away. I was pissed driving home through traffic, had
a couple of messages. I was just not in the
mood to talk to anybody. Got home and Ted called me, so.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I finally called him back.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
And so about two point forty five latast night, I
heard the news. It's definitely uh adding left to our team.
But I think energetically, you know, with the change that
we had, that was kind of can't be disjointing for
for for energetics on the team.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
For guys want to know what does this mean?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Then the way brick candled everything, you know, was just
class and good leadership.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And now this move lets everybody know, Hey, it's on
us now because we're going all in and it's our
time to go out there and win games, get on
a run, which you know we all feel deep down
is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Good for Woody Johnson, I'll say this. You know, it's
a nice pleasant surprise for Rogers to not know about
this trade in advance and then to find out after
a tough loss like that when he got home, probably
having a little bit of scotch, you know, a two
or three finger glass, and next thing you know, he
gets the word that DeVante Adams is good for on
the team.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Hey, listen to you say it that way. It kind
of it kind of has a real pattern to it. Huh,
they lose, Aaron Rodgers is pissed off. Something happens? Would
he does something? Seems to be an equation what happens
if they lose with Divan that I just who's next?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
What's next?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I do wonder to Brady's point, because one of the
reports was that the deal was completed before the Monday
night games should putting out, which if that's the case,
then that it makes what he said even more Like
I wonder if he fell suspect. I wonder if he
felt more comfortable airing out Mike Williams knowing that, like, well,
(09:45):
I'm not really gonna have to deal with this guy
much longer, so why not, you know, because maybe if
he had to deal with Mike Williams, you know, for
the next foreseeable future, he would have been a little
bit more gentle with all those game.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Comments now that he's acting against Jackie Moon. Will Ferrell's
came from semi pro I don't know, if you're gonna
be a player general manager, you want to devalue him
by area mount like that. You probably want to build
him up, you know, take more accountability there. At least
that's how I would see it. So I mean, but
what's crazy about it is, in I don't know the
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span of twenty four hours they lose, they get Devanta Adams,
Mike Wims on the trade block, Hassan Redicks also on
the trade block.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I mean, so many things were cleaned up relatively fast now.
So either this has.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Been going on now for about a week since the
Roberts solid firing, or they had a meeting and they
kind of came to it and said, here's what we're
gonna do. We got two decisions. We can either kind
of limp through this thing, or since we've got Aaron here,
he's got another year left on his contract, let's just
go all in and let's do something that will entice
him to not only be here this year but also
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next year. Because I do wonder if long term, as
we've speculated, who knows if Philly want to come back
after this year? Based on how will happen, it feels like, well,
DeVante's there, he's got Alan Lazard, He's got Garre Wilson,
which I don't know what the late relationship is like.
I don't know how the rest of the season is
going to go. But with those three receivers, the backfield,
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they had an improved offensive line. That group's only going
to get better too through another offseason, either because of
working together or they'll continue to add to it. And
this defense is already pretty much stay intact. It's a
good team on paper, good roster, and you've got this
window of time and say what you want about Whatddy
Johnson he's chosen to make this decision to allow Aaron
(11:34):
Rodgers to have all his power, but he's also going
all in, like we will not look back at this
era for the New York Jets and say that their
owner didn't give that quarterback everything he's wanted. I mean, seriously,
what is he not provided Aaron Rodgers at this point
(11:55):
that he's wanted?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
A spouse?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Maybe I don't, I think maybe anything.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Maybe he's done that. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
But as of a plasta on the field, he's giving
him everything.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
A weed.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Rooms it does. It does feel like everything's been kind
of laid out for him.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
Page But you know what if Brady did the same thing.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Somebody sent somewhere listening to us right now is like
Tom Brady did the same thing. Yeah he did, he did,
Yes he did.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Blazer family, did they went all in, right, like go back,
go back. I mean I've said this back with Peyton
going to Denver. You don't want to know what one
of the biggest things that the Broncos did for Peyton
was they said, we we as a coaching staff Organzaic,
We'll learn your offense.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
You run whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You know Greg Rosskoff who does muscle activation and technique
m AT. That was a big part of Peyton's rehab
routine coming back from the neck injury. And he had
you know, Greg had worked with a team intimately for
a while, but that was another big piece of it, right,
having all the resources that he needed, you know, to
(13:10):
be there to help him get through that initial season,
all that in the next couple of years where he
ends up setting records. But between all the different players
they had there, whether it's Damarius Thomas, god rest Is
soul Eric Decker, all of the people that came in there,
Wes welkeru ends up coming in there, I mean they
stacked that thing around him. They build up the offensive
line to the point where like he had his shot
(13:32):
at winning a Super Bowl. So I just there's something
to be said for that, Like I think we've we've
given Woody Johnson maybe some flat for how he's handled
the situation with Robert Salah. But if this works in
the end, this will ultimately we'll look back favorably and say, yeah, man,
like say what you want. But it worked for the Broncos,
(13:55):
it worked for the Buccaneers, it worked for the New
York Jets.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I mean there's a lot of owners who just sip
backing cast checks like they you know, we'll put out
a mediocre product, you know, as long as you keep
coming through the turnstiles and then we're good.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So at least he's I wonder how Jets fans feel.
I mean, do you do you feel like Aaron Rodgers
has that much control at this point? Yes, I mean
it seems rather obvious, but yeah, it is obvious.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well are you okay with that?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
They're not in a position I mean, this is this
is like one of those wild times where LeVar was
back during a single days. He's getting tied up or handcut.
He doesn't have any control. That's we're just going to flow.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's a great correct I was just gonna say that
you are like water. They're not in a position to
dictate to anybody the team should be run like at
all in any way whatsoever. They are not good and
they have not been good for years. So you take
whatever it is it's going to get you in the headlines,
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and whatever is going to get you back to back
to success. They don't know a damn thing about it.
So just go with the flow and see if this works.
Because you tried everything else and it so you may
as well just let Aaron Rodgers have whatever say he
wants at this point and then just ride it all
the way through. So, I mean, I'm a little skeptical.
I've you know, been very bullish on the Jets that
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they're going to be a playoff team hoping for the best.
I don't want to have to admit that LeVar was
right at the end of this whole thing, but you know,
at least we're going to get an answer.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Adams if he's healthy, all right, if he's good to go.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Can I give you the updated NFL playoff predictions as
of today?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
All right?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Can we get some game show music here, some sort
of music. We have a live studio band.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Type of music here, all right?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Now?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Where we go? That's the one right there? Too.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
All right, If you recall, the Jets were sitting in
the number eight spot before their Monday night football game
versus Buffalo Bills, which they lost, dropping them to two
and four. Now the question is how low did they go?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
LeVar?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
How far the New York Jets drop in the playoff picture?
If the playoffs or to start.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Today, I would say they be the Well, I think
they'd be out. Well, they are out.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
They are out, but it's not as significant of a
drop as you would think.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Jonas, do you want to you want.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
To try this, I'm going to say they're in the
ten spot.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
That's right there on the ten spot. Oh okay, he
most likely looked it up. But they're in the ten spot.
And what's interesting about that is if they beat Pittsburgh
in Week seven, their playoff probability increases to sixty six percent.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
They're currently one game out of first place when they
lost this last game to Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
And what's crazy is their current playoff probability is fifty
seven percent. It's by far highest of any of the
teams that are on the outside looking in. In fact,
it's even higher than the Colts, who are at three
and three currently sitting in the seventh spot.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
So this thing sets.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Up for the Jets to make a run to make
it in based on the nfl dot Com playoff predictor,
even though they're sitting in the tenth spot, a couple
of spots, a few spots, excuse me, outside of that
final playoff spot.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
How about that? That sounds good?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Should you put that in your pipe and smell?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I mean, I think the Davante Adams move is significant.
Now he's got two guys that he trusts. He's got
two one guy that is a legitimate, he's a legitimate, legitimate,
one receiver and threat. I mean, you got Breeze Hall
in the backfield. I'm if it doesn't work. If it
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doesn't work out, I mean, I don't know what you
blame it on. I don't know what you blame it on.
I don't because I mean the edition of Adams they're
already you know, on paper, they're already just a super
super stacked team.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Bad for Gardner Minshew and Aidan.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
O'Connell and also the training staff for the Raiders. I mean,
they couldn't get his hamstring right now, He's got to
go to the Jets to get a.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Clearly they did a good enough job where he was tradable.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
That's true, passed the physical. There you go, because you
have to take up physical when you get there, you.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Have to pass that.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
So they did well enough to get him, you know,
get him out, get him through the physical, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Good job to the to the Vegas Raiders. Yeah, train boy, Yeah,
way to get it done.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
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Speaker 2 (18:58):
There are traditions on this show that must be upheld,
and one of those traditions is the op There Petros Papadakis.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
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(19:18):
Good morning, How you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Good morning? Hi Petros? Right here? So, uh hello.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Just trying to gauge, just trying to gauge your feelings
on just some of the fallout from USC's difficult lost.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Why you want to talk about that when me and
him should be talking about that.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, you introduced to the guest and ask the question.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Go ahead, actually invite Colin Cowardon too. Let's bring Colin
into this too as well.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
You know, you know, Colin seems to be more of
an apologist for USC than than you would be.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Petros.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
So let's well, that totally makes sense since he went
to Eastern Washington.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah, I just I'm trying to figure that one out,
you know, like, you know, he's not an alumni, but well,
he's in LA.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
And he's feeling good. He's you know, I mean, he's
a rich guy in LA, and when you're a rich guy.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
In LA, you meet a lot of USC people, especially
if you live where he lives. He doesn't live in
the valley. You know, it used to be when I
was a kid, like the valley people. The valley is
the San Fernando Valley. There's other valleys, but when you
say the valley or valley, girl, you're talking.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
About the San Fernando Valley.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
And it used to be like people up there and
West LA was kind of more of a UCLA vibe.
And then Orange County and the South Bay maybe was
more of a USC thing. And I don't know if
that's the same. But Colin Cowherd when he moved here
and lived in Manhattan Beach, which is really due central
(20:52):
for people from out of town, and that's what, Yeah,
a lot of apples.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I never I never toned into a USC fan though,
you know, I never turned too well.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
You know, you're kind of dipped in it, you know,
some some other ways, you know, through your history. It's
not like you're not searching for an identity. Oh right,
you know what I mean, You're not like, Wow, I
can't tell everybody about the Eastern Washington offense and big
play VA. Uh so they've they move on to USC.
(21:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I can't tell you why.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
People like the most people around town that didn't go
to USC that love USC are like normal LA sports
fan types, right and not you know, really rich guys
wearing sunglasses that aren't made for indoors or outdoors and uh,
just kind of feeling himself in that way.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I mean, did you were you like, did you feel
like Lincoln Rally was deserving of an.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Apology even though it's only halftime? No, and even if
they won the game. I mean, who cares?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I told you guys last week.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
And Penn State's its own thing and they have their
own issues trying to get over the hump and the
Big Ten with Michigan and Ohio State, and obviously the
league is totally different now, and we're all trying to
figure out what it's like for these teams to play
each other week in and week out. There's no precedent
and it's hard to kind of gauge. But I told
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you last week, I mean, USC season ended when they
lost at Minnesota. With their schedule and looking at them
as a team and how that game went, that was
it that killed all the Oh.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
My god, Lincoln Riley's going to re imagine this.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
I was really heartened by the LSU victory, and I
do think that they've improved in some ways, especially on
their defensive coaching staff. But you lost at Minnesota. Who
cares what happens against Penn State? Now you lost at Minnesota.
So yeah, you turn around and beat a really good
Penn State team with a guy that his fan base
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has their own issues with and tight games, James Franklin,
and it just became kind of a parody after the
halftime thing from Coha Coward. But ultimately, I don't see
what the big deal is. You've already you lost your
second game in early October at Minnesota to PJ.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Fleck. Season's over in the Big Ten.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Find me somebody that loses at Minnesota and goes on
to greatness in that league. It's probably never happened. So
and I know it's a new I mean, am I wrong?
Kinda Yeah, he's just did a good job. Inn It's
still Minnrona.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
No.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
I mean, if we're talking about the paxwell, it's like going, Uh,
I think it's a sky, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Uh If.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Every time I say ski, you ma, somebody calls me
and says it's sky, And every time I say sky,
somebody says it's yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I feel like now that you say that, I've heard
it both ways spelled like ski.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I, I've heard it both ways.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
But yeah, I don't know. I don't really know what
USC's future is. But I lost faith in the resurgence
of the program when they lost at Minnesota. So whatever
happened at Penn State is kind of you know, it's
already it's like throwing crap at the wall.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's already covered in crap.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Can well we all know people who have done that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I know that story.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Anyway, I would have been over it. And look, it's
in transition to a new league. There is there's so
many moving parts that honestly, like, I was kind of
more curious this season than having expectations for Southern Cow.
They we're going to win eleven games or anything, right,
But what I was getting to and the thing that
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bothered me the most was what we talked about earlier
in the show, that they're allowing people to pay well
for eighteen hundred dollars to run out the tunnel with
the team, and yet that guy you allow a pencil
like and they're saying, yeah, anyone can do it, even
the opposing team.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
How do you allow that? How happened?
Speaker 8 (25:20):
The USC marketing department is some of the same people.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
That were there when Pete.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Carroll first took over, and it was kind of a
it was interesting they're not I don't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's embarrassing fifteen hundred bucks.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
I mean, it costs like ten thousand dollars just to
stand on the sideline at Michigan while they're warming up
and get bullied by security and running out of the
tunnel at the LA Coliseum is supposed to be a
really special thing in the pantheon.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Of college football.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
I felt like it was, and you can see from
the video it's pretty cool. And it's unfortunate that they
they are that thirsty for fifteen sixteen hundred bucks that
they're letting like we always had when I was on
the team many years ago, whether we were at home,
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in the hotel or away, you know, maybe we had
some big donor with us on the bus or on
the plane, and sure they walked out with the team
when we ran out, you know, it came out after
with the rest of the staff or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
And that was a special thing.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
And that's because those people gave millions of dollars or
you know, did something for somebody, a doctor that saved
somebody's life or something like that. And now any meat
face JABBRONI can do it. And it was sad to see.
It was very disheartening.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I guess the way I'd put it is, there are
certain moments in college football to me that are priceless,
like there shouldn't you shouldn't have the ability to put
a price on it, and like we you know, we've
all kind of walked out that tunnel, whether it was
you know, Southern Cow or Penn State or Notre Dame,
what have you. And I think that's what what kills
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me a little bit is like as are like society
become okay with just the money part of everything, where
like everything's gonna be about money now, Like can it
just be about the experience?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Can it just be about the fact that, no, that's.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Only there for a select few, Like it's only there
for those guys that come into the program, that have
been in the program, that our coaching stats or maybe,
as you pointed out, like a gigantic donor or something
to that nature. But to have like a fan, a
random guy who's a Penn State fan, like that blew
my mind. And it feels, I'll just I'll put it
(27:47):
very blunt. It feels like they're hoarring themselves out here
in la Come on, Yeah, it was like watching Pretty Woman.
But as for like people running out of the tunnel
and going, oh, that's interesting to see what they're doing there.
Hookers don't look like that, not like Julia Roberts nineteen eighties,
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nineteen eighty Santa Monica Boulevard hooker does not look like
horse face.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Julia Roberts in the eighties call de mure.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
And laughing and having a great time and getting her
fingers snapped in the jewelry a big mouth.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
It had a big mouth, the horse face. You swallow
your whole giant head break. Wait, which one? I don't
you gotta dope that one? You might have to dumpe
that one, the.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
One with the Notre Dame helmet, that's really up for that.
I cannot defend it. I will not defend it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
The USC marketing should be ashamed of themselves. The more
and more college football mirrors pro football, and of course
there's so much money being made, it's very hard to
imagine that we won't and don't, and we're kind of
like this weird mutated version of pro football. Remember when
the guy fell in the toxic waist and RoboCop and
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he was like, help me, that's college football right now.
So it's kind of it's a mutated, sort of vibe
pro football model that we're headed towards, but we don't
really know what that is, and we want to keep
our traditions, and we want to say that it's still
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something special and still something earned, and still something that
means something. And I think that's true. But where it
all falls after the money is pocketed, I think we're
finding that it's a little bit different than what we
experienced and what our experience is. I think this USC,
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this tunnel for high or whatever you want to call it,
is a pretty and disturbing thing. And I hope US
he cuts it off after this year. I don't know
how far ahead they sell it or what, but I
hope that they've been embarrassed enough by it or their
marketing department, Hey has been embarrassed enough by it to.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Stop Petros other than the fact that it was a
homeless guy and he got to participate in practice like
and I mean this series and that was on Clay Hilton, Ryeah,
And that's what That's my point. What is the difference
between me.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
And the homeless program at Georgia Southern for walk Ons
is second to enough.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That's what I've heard. But what is the difference between
Clay Helton and Lincoln Riley? So far at USC.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Ninety million dollars to buy out Clay Helton and his
whole staff and now Mike Bone in all of his glory,
and hey, we all thought Lincoln, Yeah, you don't know.
We thought Lincoln Riley was a great hire.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
When he was hired. It seemed good.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
I would rather have a program builder type, like a
Matt Campbell or something like that and see how that
works on the West.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
But we all thought it was a good hire.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
But they gave him a ten year deal, and now
there's a seventy million dollar buyout and it looks like
leg and Riley's future as an NFL play caller.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And not only that, but if we're really.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Going to go deep into it, the Los Angeles media
is not a real sharp, toothy media. I am the
probably the meanest guy in the LA media, and most
people just think of me as a hermit that lives
in a basement and an eccentric and no one cares
what I think. I don't hang out with Lebron James
or the Kardashians or anything like that. The LA media
(31:40):
is easy. I mean, you could have the LA media
eating out of your hand. Pete Carroll ran.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
A proven, deeply corrupt college football program and he's still
regarded as a savior even though he ruined like two
generations of USC football, he's teaching again.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yes, he's back on campus, you know.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
I mean if Pete Carroll, if Pete Carroll has it
figured out like Lincoln, I don't want you to ask
Pete Carroll about defense or how to make your team bigger,
stronger and faster whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Just learn to deal with the LA media.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
I mean, these twenty five year old beat riders with
Pube stashes just own they own Lincoln Riley. They get
them all flustered and looking. It's like and honestly, if
you can't handle the LA media, you just you're probably not.
You probably got to go call plays somewhere. It just
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doesn't seem like a good fit. And it seems like
it gets worse and worse the more accountable he's being held.
So it's a it's a sad situation at US. Not
as sad as over at UCLA, but sad nonetheless.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I mean, they did beat Hawaii barely, yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I don't know where UCLA's next win is coming from.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
They could get Rutgers this week, but they got to
go all the way out there and Rutgers be Washington.
Washington lost missed on three field goals, but they still
beat him out there in Piscataway So and they have
Fresno State at the end of the year. But who
else is you you CLA gonna beat? I mean what
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what on their schedule makes you feel like they're gonna
get another win? Presno State ain't that bad. Who knows
what the situation will be later in the season, but
U c l A is that's an ugly situation. And
that's an ad that I think has completely lost faith
in all the support in Martin Jardmond over there.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
How we feeling ahead of Game three for the for
the Doer?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Were we out with the Doyles? Oh?
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Well, you know, there's a lot of excitement in town
and the more look the Dodgers winning that game against
the Padres, what it did was knock us off the
air a whole bunch for uh for this week. And
it calmed my boss, or I guess our boss in
many ways, Don Martin, it calmed him down considerably. What'd
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that sound like, my miam? If they make the World Series?
He told me this in the suite the other day,
right before the Dodger game where they won they beat
San Diego and we got out of there. He said,
my miam, if they go to the World Series, I'll
cancel the Christmas party.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
And that was enough for me.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
You know that that's the greatest thing ever last year
because last year, you know, the Dodgers got eliminated so quickly,
and you know, the three playoff games weren't enough for
Don Martin's budget at the end of the year, so
he sent us to do this gigantic Christmas party for
like seven hundred people in thousand.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oh, is that why that took place?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, of course it is. Why else did we never
done one before?
Speaker 8 (34:50):
And literally like we had all these giveaways and we like,
we don't know, like who gets the raffle tickets, you know,
whoever passing them out? And like the promotions guy that
passed out the raffle tickets was like giving raffle tickets
to like people that were sponsors and like the cooks
at the bar, and like people will winning.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So like we'd give away something and people be like,
you're a fraud Petross, you lose a You guys are loose.
You guys are terrible.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
You know, we're literally being heckled at our own event.
Sounds like Roberto. It was terrible. It was, and so
this year I'm trying to avoid that. If if the
Dodgers can make the World Series. Do you guys always
get heckled at your own events? No, just when they
like you guys. You guys ever heard that Depeche Mode song?
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Oh my gosh, everything counts in large amounts, the grabbing hands,
grab all they can.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
All for themselves after all good.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
You know, you get a couple of drinks in people
and you give away a key chain or a lanyard.
It's there's nothing in America that makes people insane more
than like a free T shirt, you know. So people
feel like they want something and they had a couple
of drinks, they can get very angry. But usually we're
very good about distributing prizes and things like that. The
Christmas party went a little sideways and the listeners.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Let us know, yeah, it did seem like things are
getting a little bit loose there.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
We gave away a prize to like this hot chick.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
It was like a sponsor for like some like champagne company,
and she came like dancing up there with her.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Prize, and I thought we were about to get bum rushed.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Well, Petro's always a good time like.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Woodstock ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Hey, does Lee have any questions for Petros chopping chime
in anything?
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Ali that I know about the fat bear contest, I
also follow that.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Oh Jesus, so what was your conclusion because it isn't
an over now.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
Yeah, well, Matre's brutal. You know, one of them got
dragged into the sea or river and killed. Like I
just don't want to everybody's so upset about the bear murder.
But everybody gets all like squirmy about the bears killing
each other in the wild. Okay, what about the fish
or eating like three hundred fish in a pop and
everybody's all fisher.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Is such a great point, a p.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Who you calling this weekend? What game? What game? You
got this second?
Speaker 8 (37:27):
I'm being uh in October. Apparently I'm not good enough
to call football. So I'm off this.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Week all right? Wow? And next week?
Speaker 8 (37:33):
So I just I just love having weeks off during
the college football season.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Makes me feel very very useful. Dang, you only get
so I feel like you're being sarcastic right now.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Believe yes, I'm quite disappointed in my schedule this week
and next week, but apparently there's like eight games to
call for me in November.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
So you know who November spawned a monster?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Okay, you know who to talk to though, God, yes,
that's correct, Petros.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Get him all.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Lord, please help my bosses to think I'm better than
Spencer Tillman and Yogi Rob.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Okay, all right, p at the old pe on Twitter
is where you can get him or on x whatever
you want to call it is Petros papadaeikis. He is
the cost of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch and five to seventy LA
Sports a Fox College Football analyst and our good buddy
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here every Wednesday, always a fun time with Petros.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
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Speaker 2 (38:45):
So Kirk Menahan threw this out recently that he's talked
to two sources a couple of sources out there that
have said that Tom Brady's first move when he takes
over the Raiders is to reach out engage Bill the
Check's interest in the head coaching. So they were listening
to our show. I feel like we were kicking that
around a couple of days ago. The potential. Yeah, guys, man,
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it's a little obvious, right, I mean it's we're taking
full credit.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's not that original of a thought. Guy, We're taking
full credit. We're first show out. Yeah, I'm not I
give credit for that. We're going to do it.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Here's a tough part about that stuff coming out now
is Antoni appears as your head coach and everything you
do when you first take over, whether you're responsible for something,
all right, So if it's the operations, the roster, what
have you, could be the border you've got to take
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responsibility for. Then what happens from that point moving forward,
and then you're setting precedents. So in this case, when
he comes in there and this report gets out there,
it's like, okay, well, then any head coach that ever
comes in to be the Las Vegas rate, it's as
long as time Brittie's part of the ownership is going
to be subcheck to while they have their job still
someone else reaching out to see if Bill Belichick or
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the next head coaching candidate is potentially ready, Like this
is the sort of thing where when you when you
take over, you don't want what you're trying to do
behind the scenes to become public.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You'd like it to stay.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Well, how true do you think it is?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Or is it like you said, it's not like it's
a military secret to have that thought process, is it?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Well that.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
You would rather other people speculate rather than saying, this
is what the first thing Tom Brady's doing, right, because
that comes from somewhere, right, And all I'm saying is
like you would immediately want to come out make a
statement and say, hey, we're supporting the team, We're excited
to see what they can do the rest of this year.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
You know this is you know however.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
He sees it, But you just don't want to set
a precedent that now moving forward, everyone's going to look
back to and say, well, you know, he took it
over and then he was doing this, or he took
over and then like, is anyone ever safe? Because now
you're constantly going to have to deal with the speculation
that no matter what happens, there's always gonna be someone
shopping out there for the next best thing, the next
best head coach et cetera. The other thing is, you know,
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obviously he's tasked with I guess the operations whatever technically
his title is. But he's part of the ownership group,
so it can't fire himself, right, I mean, I guess
he technically could step away from it, but he's still
going to be a part of that organization, and so
it's probably better off that he's just looked at this
kind of silent partner, minority owner.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
I mean, Richard Seymour is.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
A part of the group that took over, you know,
that invested into the Raiders. And what's interesting is you
didn't hear anything really about that until we heard that
it was approved and it was like, oh, by the way,
Richard Seymour was part of this group. Yeah, So I
don't know. I mean, I understand he's Tom Brady. He's
a huge name. It's hard for him to probably keep secrets.
But it would be better off if the strategy wasn't
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fully out there for all to see, especially considering you're
in the middle of a season. It's one thing if
this is the off season, you can have these conversations
about people's job security and moving on to Bill Belichick,
but at a fairness to ap At, a fairness to
every head coach that takes that position moving forward, and
probably even buil Like if Bill Belichick, if I'm singing
his seat, I'm probably thinking to myself, Hey, Tom, why
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don't we wait till maybe the end of the season,
you know, unless you guys make a decision and that
job's open. Let's not talk about that job being open.
It's only fair. I think a lot of coaches who've
been around enough probably feel that way.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
And would echo that sentiment.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I just wonder, how, like when things like this happen,
how far before things like this surface are they being discussed?
Like Tom Brady isn't kicking in the gear because now
he's getting to approval. Tom Brady knew he was going
to get the approval at some point, somebody told him, like,
it's going to take a little time, but we'll get
to approval. Are you saying there's like a thing like
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tampering that exists, and.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I mean or colluding or whatever it may be?
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Like even this same thing with Aaron Rodgers said can't
wait to play with you again? Like that one just
stands out big time, Like he was so sure when
he said it like when these things start to happen
and execution of whatever the next you know, phases or
whatever it is you're going to do, whatever takes place,
(43:20):
How long before it gets to the public is it
already being discussed. I would be curious to be a
like to know like at one point, like, oh, that
that conversation started, you know, eight nine months ago, Oh
it started two years ago, whatever it may have been.
I just don't feel like these types of things that
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get leaked out when they do, and it happens when
it happens, is in the moment, like boom, now he's
got the he's got the approval, the group's got the approval.
Now here's what's being leaked out about what he's thinking
he wants to do. Like that's it happened before, it
happened before. Now it had to have happened before. Now,
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I would assume.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
We can speculate.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
But again, that's that's where I feel like, it's just
it's unfair when when you're taking over it is now
part of the organization. It's fair for us to do
because that's our job. Like we kind of have to speculate,
we kind of have to read into things and read
the tea leaves and give an opinion on it. But
as far as the actual operations of what Tom Brady's
now doing, it's it's now.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
It's different.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
You're you're held accountable to a certain degree, and everything
you do is going to be measured and monitored, and
it's going to be done so in looking at it
from the prism of the Las Vegas Raiders, because that's
who you represent, and this is an organization that's had
a hard time finding traction. Maybe they're unfortunately their best
you know, era or time where you felt positive about
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this team was when John Gruden was that coach, and
so you're now trying to kind of recapture that.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
However, that fell apart, and I feel like now.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
It's going to be hard to be able to build
up this trust in the team and being able to
be a team that competes unless they're able to have
more stability with their coaching positions, their front office everything
else that goes along with that.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
By the way, the more you hear guys that were
on that team, like Max Crosby talk about John Gruden,
the more you start to get the vibe that he
got screwed, Like you know you guys talked about maybe
it was yesterday's show about Jerry Jones. Maybe it's not
even about winning games with Jerry Jones. Maybe it's really
(45:33):
about the attention that he's able to garner and building
the brand of the Dallas Cowboys and how valuable that
has been. They don't win s and yet it's the
most valuable franchise.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Why.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
If I'm Mark Davis, I've had in my lifetime watching
my dad run this team. If I'm a Rooney, I've
had this moment in my lifetime with my dad running
this that they were the focal point of the National
Football League. The Raiders have a tremendous fan base. And
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maybe it's not about winning right now. Maybe it's purely
about moving the needle in terms of the attention that
you're able to generate and the value you're able to
generate by the people who are associated with what it
is that you're doing. And if you bring in a
Bill Belichick along with the ownership group having and boasting
Tom Brady being a part of it, that's enough to
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sell sell hope, that's enough to create intrigue and interest
to it.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Already really really robust.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
Fan base I mean, I think this is more just
as much a marketing play, marketing move even for the league.
The league gets to brag about and embrace the fact
that one of its greatest players of all time is
now on an ownership group of one of the most
storied franchises in league history. There's something to be said there,
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The story can be told there, and it can be monetized.
So to me, I feel like sometimes.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
It's just as big a move for what it represents
off the field than even what it represents on the field.
You mentioned Jerry Jones, by the way, we should point
out we discussed his comments towards the radio host Sean
and RJ in Dallas. He doubled down, apparently talking with
Diana Rassini, Oh, transitioning off that, well, well, I mean,
(47:34):
are we, like, what else do we have on it?
He mentioned Jerry Jones, So I thought I figured we
were going to get I.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
Was just going to say this about Belichick too. It's
always a solid when you're a coach who wants to
get back into it. When you have someone too that
immediately gets his name out there, right, and there's no
one who's gonna, you know, advocate more for Bill Belichick
be a reference for Bill Belichick than Tom Brady. And
so I'm not saying this is necessarily the motivation and
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behind it if those conversations are happening, but it's good
when you're on TV, you're out there and you know
you've already got Oh, there's one team that's gonna be interested, right,
I mean, Tom Brady's helping create a market for Bill
Belichick and a desire or last perceived desire for for
Bill Belichick after going through an offseason where I think
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we all thought he was gonna get a job, and
it seemed like there's some hesitation with some organizations because
they know what that might bring.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
That might bring a guy who's gonna come in.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
And control the whole thing, and there's people in positions
of power that don't want to give up that power.
So there's also an element here of this being positive
for Bill Belichick. And you know, I'm not, again not
saying it's necessarily by design, but like an ancillary effect
of this would be Bill Belichick's names back out there
(48:51):
for a head coaching job a before it's open, but
b and we're what six weeks into the season, seven
weeks in the season, like that's that's that's another piece
of this that again maybe not by design, but definitely
part of the conversation when it comes to, you know,
Tom Braddy's involvement in an NFL franchise, but how it
(49:11):
may help some of the people that he's been involved
with in the past.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Let's just say that it happens hypothetically. What do you
think Robert Kraft's thinking, Like, wait a second, I thought
you guys didn't like each other, Like why couldn't we
have figured this out towards the.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
Ends behind the scenes, Like no, they they Cat's been
burying the hatchet.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah, Belichick and Brady seem like they're on great terms now,
like like almost them not being like playing the coach
player role was better for their relationship because it feels
like Robert Kraft's kind of on the outside looking in
and those guys have have you know, kind of.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
Maybe only because that's that's self Like like you said,
it's a family owned it's a family ram business. Yeah,
it's a family ram business. So Robert Kraft could have
been in on this. But if you're on a choose
fan over you know, work family, then that's what he did,
and that's that's what he's doing. So he's living with that.
(50:07):
I mean, that's that's not Again, if if it were different,
I would assume that Robber Kraft would be like, why
would you go anywhere else to have ownership? Your value
is here the I mean, could you imagine the impact
that this this move would would have on on especially
right now where where the currently the New England Patriots are.
(50:31):
I mean, they're in the same type of situation. I mean,
maybe they have a quarterback that so they're a little
bit ahead of Las Vegas maybe, but I mean to
have have that scenario. Only thing I would say is
is that you're not bringing Bill Belichick into that scenario though.
That's the only thing that's that's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
So and we don't know that they're going to I mean,
I think you've you've got to be open minded if
you're Tom Brady too, in the sense that, like you
just had Josh McDaniels there, you got to fuck off
that kind of match that, like you had the New
England Trust kind of there, Like if Bill Belichick comes
back to coach, who's OC would be Josh mc daniels.
(51:10):
I mean, I would think so.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Why would you think so? Because then now is Mark
Davis looking at it like, I.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Just I just hired this previously and it didn't work,
And yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
The LB of it was bad. That's a bad move.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Vance Joseph was the head coach in Denver and now
he's a DC truth.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
But was it as was? Was it? Did it play
out the same way?
Speaker 5 (51:30):
Like that kind of played out pretty public that there
was a like a disconnect between Daniels and Daniel McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Daniels Daniels would ass and.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
The players Mike mcdanda's your guy in Miami, McDaniel with
no sea I.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Just said it before.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
I'm not sure it's the right fit anyway for Bill
Belichick and the time frame he's looking to succeed and win.
And if Don Show's record matter is, you know you're
taking over the race job, you're probably gonna have to
be coaching their six seven years. I think in order
to be able to surpass Don Shul's win loss record,
maybe maybe it's fall four or five, but different challenge
if that's your motivation. And obviously, if you're talking about
(52:14):
a team to go win a Super Bowl, there's a
lot of things missing from that roster that I think
you need to be competitive consistently week in and week out.
So I'm not sure that's the right fit. And that's
kind of why I just say, like it's good for
Bill Belichick though, that his name's out there and that
there is a potential like thought that oh no, they
could hire him as well.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
But I think the last little thing.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
I'll say about the announcement of Tom Brady and getting
the minority stake is the way they're setting him up
with him being having control over operations or overseeing that however.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
You want to phrase it.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
It's setting him up to be the majority owner or
at least the face of the group that's going to
have the majority stake in it. Because if he's getting
intricately involved in the operations of the actual organization, like
we know he knows football, we know he knows you know,
what he sees in talent, what he sees in other players,
et cetera.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
But if he's getting involved with the operations and learning
from that standpoint, to me, that's what this is really about.
This is really setting up for him eventually to takeover
as majority owner at some point to put together, you know,
more capital to end up buying out Mark Davis, who
might turn into like a limited partner or a minority owner,
but to give them eventually a majority share of the team.
(53:33):
Like I think that's where this is all heading
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