October 30, 2024 • 36 mins
Brady’s kids experience soccer rowdiness for the first time. The Jets hold tryouts for a replacement kicker. The guys preview big weekend in college football, highlighted by Ohio State vs Penn State. Plus, the Midweek Awards and much more!
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Can I tell you guys what I got to do
with the family last night? So we went to the
Columbus Cruise first playoff game and unfortunately they lost, which
at this point I'm pretty sure I'm the mush like
maybe we just shouldn't go anymore. But our kids were
like very taken back by the atmosphere of like soccer.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Fans, and I was trying to say.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I was like, you know, you know fans get excited.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, yeah, not even so much like the fans who
kind of just are are passionate about the team and yell.
But there was one dressed up but like a banana.
I have no idea, maybe because it's close to Halloween.
There are some others who they laminated. Okay, these gigantic
basically cards like a referee or an official would pull
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out for a yellow card or red card, and they
kept like every time there was a penalty or looked
like they might be a penalty, they'd be standing up,
holding them up like it had some impact on something.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
And I haven't been enough soccer games to know if
that's a thing, but my kids are like, what is that?
Why is what yellow? Wise? Wood red?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So I was explaining it to him, which my oldest
kind of knew, but then after that, I'm like, that's
kind of weird, Like you have to kind of think
about how much time you're putting into like what you're
bringing with you to a soccer match. And then he
had like this peep this PBC pipe with like a
flag attached to it.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
He was waving it around.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm like much that that could be viewed as a weapon,
that's to some people or depending on how much more
this guy drinks. And it was just there was a
lot of like people washing going on from there. So
I'm not sure if it was a starring experience for
the kids. I think they enjoyed it. They mostly loaded
up on like peanuts, popcorn, and whatever the junk food
they could try to find.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
But how many people you think were there? It was
well attended.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean it's their first of the best of three
playoff match versus New York Red Bulls, So I mean,
here's what sad is. The last game we went to
was Inner Miami, so it was Messy and Swerez, so
there was a lot of like hometown fans, but that
place was pat It was for the Supporter Shield, which
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I believe is like the regular season you know, championship,
you know, best record, And there was people who were
just there to see Messi too, right, like he's that
big of a draw. So that was a little different
because just because there's so many people there, this one
was it.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Wasn't quite as well attended, but it was it was
still pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I probably would guess they're at like eighty five to
ninety percent capacity.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know, I'm curious why wouldn't there be more soccer players,
like pro soccer players angling opportunities to kick in football?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Randon Aubrey, Yeah, you know, best in the league.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I just I found it to be kind of curious,
like why not, Like when you see a situation taking
place with like a team and they are in need
of a kicker and the worst way, why why do
they not just you know, let me go try out
for this, you know, let me see what let me
see what I could do with it.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Remember Tony Meola, who is the goalkeeper for the US
national team, like in the nineties, I remember he tried
out as a kicker for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
They be booting them balls like all the way down
the field, them goalies. Why wouldn't they want to be
a punter? And wouldn't it be wouldn't it be easier
to kick an oblong shape the ball versus a just
a regular soccer ball? I think it would be. You know,
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I think the surfaces are are so much different like
soccer balls are much smoother than what a football would be.
I mean, it's just I think it'd be easier. I mean,
I don't know. It's curious.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I want to ask you something, and I want you
to be honest. If your son came up to you
and said, Dad, I don't want to be a kicker,
would you try and talk him out of it?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
No, Probably the best position you could ever play. If
you can do it without long snapper. It's it's like
it's up there, but there's still like job detriment to it.
Like you could get fed up as a as a
long snapper, especially if you're one that goes downfield to
make tackles like you can get you can get clipped
up pretty good.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well, if you're a Niner s kicker. They had two
straight games and a guy go down and try and
make a tackle and get into Yah, don't go down.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well you're not supposed to go down, as you know.
That's what kind of turned me from a hero to
a hill in college. It is because I was beating
punters up in the games. But that was my job.
I was, that was in my scout report. Hit them,
keep hitting them, and then he's going to shake a
punt turn me into a hill. Anyways, I was just wondering.
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I was just curious, like, why aren't there more you
don't hear about it? Like high school, you got to
you got to try to find a soccer player to
kick for your hot. Like when I was coaching high school,
I was one hundred percent like what do you need?
I'm talking to the soccer coach, like, well you need
I just need one to two of your guys. What
you need? Like, how can I make this happen? If
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you get a soccer player, you actually got a good
shot at being able to win some some close games
in high school. We're seeing it struggles in college, you
know what I mean, You're seeing struggles in the pros.
I would just think, like in a game where it's
really football, why wouldn't you have more guys Like I
would assume that you would have the position would be
dominated by soccer players.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think I know why?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Why Because they ain't ready for the getty dang realized
there got to really visit the Serengetti as a kicker
though it's really out there, you know, it could probably
use a kicker. Though the Jets apparently it only took
New York Bulls. It only took three h three games
Greg's Airline costing them for them to realize, you know,
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should probably have some tryouts. So they try it out
six kickers yesterday.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That's a lot. That's the that you guys have talked
about tuesdays when all of a sudden these new faces
show up kick jobs. So apparently they tried out six
kickers yesterday and the tryouts are going to continue today.
So it looks like Greg's Airlines days might be numbered
with the Jets now.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
If they don't tryouts as serious, man, that means they're
addressing this. It's a really really serious issue. If you're
holding out tryout.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Thing that I would want to see is consistency.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I would make kickers come for two days and I'd
work them out for two days, so not having like
a second waive or a different group. I'd have the
same group come back kick again, and I'd hope that
maybe the wind conditions are a little bit different, maybe
it's a little wetter, maybe it's.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Not, whatever the case is, I would just want to see.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
More of what they're going to be because the decision
they're going to make at this point, Greg zu winz
kicked in the NFL for a long time time, so
he's having a bad stretch. Now your predicament is, can
he right that ship faster and play more to the
level of why he's there in the first place, then
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some guy who's on the street. And so you've got
to make that decision in what an hour kicking work
account on one day or maybe two days combined, which
is what i'd call for.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
It's a bit of a risk.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Like as much as we want to like everyone loves
the backup, everyone loves the next guy. Okay, well, the
next guy's in the street for a reason, and if
he comes in and does the same exact thing, we're
not going to be having a conversation about Greg Zorlin anymore.
It's gonna be the next guy. And then how inept
this front office or the coaching staff or whoever made
the decision to bring the next guy in, right, That's
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where that leads to. So that's the tough part about
the situation for the Jets is, look, has he cost.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Them three games?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, you can make that case, but there's also a
lot of plays that factored in in every one of
those games. But the truth is again, he's been there
for a reason, and if you take him out because
he's not performing well, you give that roster spot up.
A could be subject to get picked up somewhere else.
Maybe you would maybe wouldn't, but be the next guy
coming in it might not be as good anyway. So
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there's always that risk that they take, And it's one
of the reasons why I would keep the dude. I
might sign the dude and have him be there for
a week, maybe two weeks, Have both those guys be there,
have them both kick and get a sense for like
how comfortable I can be with whoever the best guy
is of this group we're bringing in, And I'd let
them compare, because that's the thing is like if you
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all of a sudden cut Greg zurloin, have this other
guy come in and kick, you don't have the comparison
and seeing the two of them next to each other
for like a week and where you're like, all right,
maybe the grass isn't greener in this case.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Jeff Olbrick, the head coach of the Jets, talked about
the idea behind the tryouts.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, we're gonna this next couple of days, We're gonna
we're going to see we're at create as much stress
and as much competition as we can and the guys
that are here and make a decision.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
And like I said, next couple days before the game.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
So there we go. By the way, I should be
noted that if the Jets don't make the playoffs one
hundred percent, the only reason LeVar is because of Greg
zerr Line. It has nothing to do with Rogers poor play.
It has nothing to do with any of that. And
apparently there's somebody's floating out the idea there Brady, that
maybe trade Rogers. Maybe that's a possibility that maybe the
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Jets could move on from him and deal him.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Dude, all right, Like, I respect Mike Florio for the
platform that he's built.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You tell us too, how tireless he's working at times,
But why float out the idea of a Rogers trade?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Like?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Why do it?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And I understand the exact point of you putting that
article up is so we click and then you get
you know, can can drive more AD revenue, et cetera,
whatever the business mind is, and then we talk about
it so you get more credit for In that case,
he's got a no trade clause like it ends there,
Like it literally ends there. It's not saying it's not
possible he's traded, But what the team's gonna come to and.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Say, Hey, this hasn't really worked out, man, we got
a couple of suitors.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You want to go somewhere Like No, he's not gonna
want to go learn another offense or go to another
team and try to figure things out in one of
those spots. So he's never going to actually entertain that
the team at this point is in so in bed
with him in the manner of the decisions they've made,
they're not gonna move on from him. I mean, the
whole thing is asinine to even throw that out there,
(11:39):
just to throw the towel on the rest of the seat,
and like this is this is the type of deal
where they're all going down with the ship.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
We talked about the ty Canton Tannic.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
They're the band playing as this thing's going down, and
the captain who's standing there at the wheel going down
with the ship. They're either gonna rip off a bunch
of wins or they're gonna die trying. And that's how
the twenty twenty four seasons went In for the New
York Jets, but Rogers before the year, like we're all
but forget that, Like why, Like you, he knows in
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the sense that he reads contracts Mike for so he
knows they have a no trade clause in place, and
Rogers is gonna be willing to waive it. I mean,
it just it doesn't make any sense to even entertain
the idea of that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I just think, outside of a clibait, I just think
you're putting it out there is for effect. That's that's
I mean, I think he put it exactly clickbake.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Was there also a link to buy Florio's latest book
in the article as well too? Or is that on
another page the.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Link was also there.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
There's a big surprise, real surprise. By the way the
Jets to make the play.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And by the way to address you. I did not
say that they would not make the playoffs because of
Aaron Rodgers. I said that talent cannot outperform dysfunction. I
didn't say Aaron Rodgers couldn't. I did not specify Aaron Rodgers,
even though he has emerged as the catalyst of outside
of I guess you would love to blame Zerline, right,
(13:05):
I would say the catalyst of of the the additional
dysfunction that was already there has been their quarterback. But
that's that's still it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Greg Zerlines should be ashamed of himself. He got him down.
He's got Robert Salo's blood on his hands, right, all right,
Greg Zerlin, Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, and the end of his
he ruined You're It. He ruined the end of Aaron Rodgers' career.
He got Robert Salah fired, and he's got You're It
on the high yeah. Like and and Jeff Olbrick is
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an alum of Hawaii and he's trying to go out
there and get things done for the Rainbow Warriors, like
Timmy Chang is there in Honolulu, and instead Greg Zerlin
goes in there and just disrupts everything and just ruins
careers and gets people fired. That's Greg Zerline. That's why
this is happening.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
So Greg Zurlin is an eighty two kicker in his career.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Now that's also actoring in sixty percent this year, so
that's tough.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
He's nine for fifteen on the season. Last year he
made ninety two percent of his field goals. So just
going back to my initial point, like he's there for
a reason. He's kicked really well. In fact, he's been
above eighty percent for the majority of his career, with
the exception of his rookie year back in twenty twelve
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and then this year obviously, which has been a long
departure from where he's been. And mind you, the extra
point that he messed last week was his first.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
One of the season.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So I think it's a tough decision for the Jets
to make, even though ultimately his play is not equated
to helping them win some football games, you move on
to someone else, man, I mean, can they kick a
sixty plus yard kick? Zerolin's done it multiple times?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Are they going to be as.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Accurate when the pressure's on? I mean, we can talk
about pressure and practice. We all know that I ain't
the same type of pressures in a game, right, Like
it's it's a different pressure when you have to do
something live in front of thousands of people on national television.
And the wind conditions are going to be different too
than they are at Forham Park there in New Jersey.
Like I could trust you it's gonna be different in
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MetLife versus being a Forlim Park. So it's I would
almost like take these guys to try out at MetLife Stadium,
have them be kicking balls left and right the next
forty eight hours, or even just say don't worry about practice,
you guys, just go kicking MetLife the rest of the
rest of the week.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Well, we'll see it.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
There on game day.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I think the saddest part of it is that if
Zerline was making kicks for this team.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
That.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
All all of the great restaurants around town would have
created a cut of steak that was called the.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Zert Line the stake. Yeah, I think so like that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I think he was. I think he was on the
way if you just kicked a little bit better. I
think he should be investigated for fixing game. I don't
I don't know about I feel like if he was
kicking well for an Aaron Rodgers led football team and
the New York Jets were doing well, it just sounds
like it would just make sense. You got to Del Monico,
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you got the Porterhouse, you got the Cowboy, and then
you got to strip zer Line.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I'm just that good call, you know what I mean?
That ain't happening now, Yeah, you get to dang. I
mean he will get cut, just not a kind of steak.
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here, A that's
gonna happen. I'll tell you, I think he should be
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investigated for fixing games. I think that's what's happening here.
It's not Aaron Rodgers fault. It's you heard that here,
all right? So coming up next here, we got something
on this show that's to fire a member of this crew. Up,
all right, some comments about a big time game coming
up this weekend. That'll be yours here next on FSR.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
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Speaker 4 (17:23):
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is our midweek Awards. The good, the bad, the ugly.
They will be yours here on FSR so Beaver Stadium
where Penn Stay plays. I don't know if you know
that far about I mean, it depends if you want
to take the toll roads you could take the toll roads.
It's a little under three hours. If you want to
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take the I seventy six to the US three twenty
two west, you could do that, or you just take
the three twenty two. It's about three hours. But if
you just took that route one way from State College there,
you'd end up at a little place called Downington West
High School. Downingtown that too, And apparently that's where Will Howard,
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the Ohio state quarterback.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
That's where That's where Will Howard could ask you don't.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Have to act, you know, act like you're from every place.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You could have asked me so that she sounds I was.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I was making sure LeVar was was listening. I was
trying to make sure everybody was on the same page.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
What'd you call it? Downington?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That sounds like the preppy, pinky raising tea drinking. That's
my Midwest accents out there, and that the California that's
my dodging those pro v ones.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
That's my it's my Midwest accent, you know, Will Howard. Yeah,
the pride of Downingtown, you I like to call it.
So he's getting ready for a big matchup, you know,
back in the sort of nearly as a little stomping
grounds in Beaver Stadium this weekend, and he spoke about
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the matchup against the Penn State Nitman Alliance.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
I'm stoked. I'm stoked. I cannot wait. It's gonna be
a homecoming for me. I grew up a Penn State fan.
I wanted to go there my whole life. They didn't
think I was good enough, but uh, I guess we'll
see you next week if I was damn right.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, for the record, Ohio stated he was going to
be there until this past year, so there's that.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
It's like, I just it always makes me.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Laugh when, like, you know, these young men get all
fired up and you know they're time on all this
and you transferred. It's like, well, yeah, dude, Like only
I mean, Kansas State was where you picked. I don't
know how well he was recruited before that, but I
mean there's a lot of other schools that fall into
that category. You could be upset at Penn State all
you want, but it wasn't just them. I mean, Ohio
State didn't either until this past year. And there's probably
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some fans right now who aren't overly excited about what
they saw this past weekend. So I do you appreciate
the storylines of college football though, because they're a bit
more new, they're a bit more raw.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
You know, there's an element of like the.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Player gets to choose, but so does the school too, right,
Like if they don't offer you, you can't choose to
go there. So he's fired up for the matchup. He's
fired up to prove something to them. And I mean,
var it's gonna be a huge game, huge atmosphere, and
I think it's gonna have his work cut out for
him man with that Penn State defense.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, I think in a lot of ways, this is
that year. I know, I think they gave Ohio stayed
like a sixty plus percent chance probability of winning the game.
I think you got to look at the trenches in
this game and when when you measure it out, this
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is probably the one team in most recent years, including
last year, where I thought that they had a pretty
pretty solid chance to go into to Ohio and Columbus
and win the game. But this year, more so than
probably most years, maybe the last four or five years
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that I've I've seen them play Ohio State, These these
fronts may be better than what the fronts are in Ohio. Like,
our defensive front is as stout as it's been and
the adge the adges are are really good. They're they're
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just as elite as as any other adges out there.
And on offense, which I think is super, super way
more important to this game, because our offensive front has
not stood up to Ohio State and in this dominance
that they've they've exhibited and executed against us. Our offensive
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front is as as physical and as as good a
group as I've seen in quite some time. And when
you're able to to play play in the trenches the
way they've been playing it, you know, it opens things up.
And I think that it was very evident in the
Wisconsin game because that that turns into a trench warfare
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game and and that was going to be a dirt,
dirty like gritty, gritty, grind out type of game. I
think Ohio State, I think this is a good matchup.
I really do. I think it's going to be a
good game. I think it's a good matchup. And you know,
whether Puhla pre Beulah prep Beulah or or al or
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whichever one plays, some would say that the team might
be better off with Bow in the in the mix
versus it just being Drew. I'm a big Drew. I'm
a big Drew fan, and so whichever one it ends
up being, you know, I still think that our running
attack has just really it's worn everybody down. Tyler Warren
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and I running backs have worn everybody down. And you know,
I don't I don't really see that slowing up this week.
To be honest, what do.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You think I would say this about Pribula? He may
be a better matchup for Penn State versus Ohio State.
For this reason, Ohio States struggled to stop running quarterbacks.
I mean Dylan roy Ol last week. He's not a
running quarterback by any means, He's athletic enough. He impacted
that game with his legs. Stone the quarterback at Marshall.
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There was times early in that game before Ohio State
distanced themselves he impacted with his legs. That to me
is a weak point for this Ohio State defense. They've
struggled to get pressure. And beyond that, if you've got
a quarterback who can run and they do so that
backfield you just discussed with Prabula, I think presents eight
lot of issues and if you can force the defense
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to give you those one on one opportunities. We already
saw how that worked out versus Oregon, where you know
the receivers on the outside can make enough plays, especially
in a tight game, you get a win. And this
will be a tight game. I don't these teams are
too evenly matched.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
I don't think anyone's gonna run.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Away with it.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I'm I'm I'm excited for it, and I'll you know,
I'll see you maybe possibly, I'll.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
See you there. Penn State three and a half point
underdogs and DraftKings right now, I think about that, like
it money line that one.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh yeah, I have money line this one.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Hey, dar has been dead all with these money lines.
My picks against the spread go back through Ashley. He
has been dead on.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It's going to be hard. I'm telling you, it's going
to be hard for them to deal with the physicality
upfront on both sides. That's what I think is going
to be. I mean, generally, that's the easy way of
saying that's going to be the difference in the game.
But I really believe that here that it's going to
be the physicality of Penn State upfront, So if it
gets if it if it doesn't go that way for
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some reason this this year, this time around, it's probably
that that one one year where you could sit there
and be like.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
M will you let Ohio State fans into the Stick
City tailgate?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Sure? Like if Albert Brier rolls by, sure does.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
He allowed in?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Does?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's all about hospitality, man, Like, that's what sports are for,
for hospitality purposes.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's when var turns into a businessman, not the king
of the mammals.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, it's all about having a good time and and
you know, coming together and sharing, sharing stories and sharing moments,
whether you're an Ohio State fan or you're a Penn
State fan. Now after the game, that will maybe be
a little different. If we win, they'll be welcomed and
(25:42):
if we lose, maybe.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Not so much. Whether I saw some people complaining that
the game was a noon game.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
A lot of people complaining about it being you know, what.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Do you like get up earlier? Like what's what's the problem,
Like what else you got to going on? Like sorry,
it's not in prime time. It's a noon kick Like
it's a huge stage. It's a great game, Like I'm
a big fan of Big Ten games in those early
time slots. Personally, like when I think Michigan Ohio State,
(26:11):
I think that's the time slot I think of. And
this idea everything's got to be catered to everybody so
they can sleep in a little bit, get your lazy
ass up and watch some football.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Well, I have a hard time believing people are going
to be in sleeping in the past noon.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
But what a lot of people don't realize is.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
The new Big Ten media rights deal is partially to
blame for why games.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Are when they are.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's a slotted agreement between three networks, so it's harder
to move games around because you have two other networks
you're dealing with. In the past, there was only one.
It was just Fox and ESPN. Now you have CBS
and NBC, who, by the way, are not as accustomed
to dealing with how to navigate a college football schedule.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
For a conference.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Since, if you think about it, NBC just had Notre
Dame they now are in the Big Ten. CBS just
had the number one game in the SEC. Now you
can make the case CBS Sports Network had some other rights,
but this is a whole different animal. This is the
Big Ten with conference rear alignment. There's more big there's
bigger brands, there's more schools, and they're navigating what is
(27:21):
looked at as very similar to the NFL window. And
that's what the Big Ten wanted for it. There to
be a noon three point thirty primetime game, no different
than that one four o'clock primetime game where you had
Fox and CBS kind of you know, back and forth
with their one to four o'clock games, and then you
have NBC in primetime. That's that's how this thing is
(27:44):
set up. So for a lot of people out there
who are frustrated with it, they need to go read
the Big ten media rights agreement. Understand that there's only
there's only a certain amount of games that they can
put in certain slots, and the networks have the ability
to put in certain slots based on the actual media
rights deal. So that gets lost in the discussion. And
then the reality is no one reads the details anymore. Right,
(28:06):
We scroll down the page, we click accept, and whatever
the terms in the agreements are, we accept them. But
there are much finer details to this agreement that put
some of these bigger games in the noon window for
a reason.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
But that's also the Big Ten saying.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So there's two thoughts to that, like one, take up
your gripe with the Big Ten conference, and then two,
you're also getting paid handsomely by these TV networks. So
if you really have a big issue with the TV
networks about it, get back the money.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
You can always do.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
That too, I mean, and if they've got to complaint,
I mean, you could always communicate via walkie talkie.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
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Speaker 3 (29:23):
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Speaker 3 (30:26):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some
bad and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time
for good, bad and lovely?
Speaker 4 (30:36):
All right?
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Lead to lap who's got what?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
As you know, we start with the good each and
every week, and you know it's an especially good week
when Brady is delivering the good.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Right, No way, really, Lee? Really yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Really?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
This one's easy for me and it's more than good.
It's great. It's Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
His performance so far in the World Series is one
of the greatest of all time. I know they have
an want it yet, but up three to one, four
straight home runs, four straight games. Talked about earlier, I
think it was George Springer versus the Dodgers actually back
in twenty seventeen, who last.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Was able to do something like this.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
It just it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Seems remarkable on that stage that he's the guy able
to do it. So it's better than good, it's great,
and it's Freddy Freeman this week.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Well, you can't have good or great without bad. LaVar
what was bad this week?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, it wasn't so easy for me on my decision,
So I would give you both. The first one is
if it is indeed true that Anthony Richardson lost his
job because of opting out because he was tired to play,
that is definitely bad. But then I was conflicted because
(31:50):
I was reminded that the face of that fan and
how he was enjoying and reveling and opening the glove,
prying the glove open of the player to try to
get the ball, remove the ball from his glove, and
just how that looked. Just that was bad too. So
(32:12):
I'll give you both those. I gave you two bats
for the week. Richardson and the fan of the Yankees
in the World Series.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Don't know how you can get worse? But Jonas what
was ugly this week?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Oh, it's very.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Easy to get worse.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Want you go ahead and take a.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Peek, get a whiff of the conclusion of the Washington
Commanders Chicago Bears game on Sunday? And you know what's
worse than the fact that the Bears lost that game
on a hail? Mary and Tyreek Stevenson is celebrating with
Bears fans and doesn't realize that the receivers are at
the twenty until he goes, oh, yeah, I should probably
get over there and try and do something about this.
(32:50):
It's the whole aftermath afterwards. Matt eberflu is trying to
explain it away Tyreek Stevenson saying, oh, listen, you know
I gotta be better.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
I got to be better for my teammates. It's out
of my character.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
It's like, okay, well, was it out of your character
when you pointed at a guy's face and got a
fifteen yard penalty earlier in the game, And then you've
got Cole Comet coming out afterwards and pointing out that, like, yeah,
we didn't really you know, practice all that well or
prepare all that well during the week. You know, there
were some things that we probably could have done a
little bit better. They beat a bunch of bad football
teams three in a row.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
One of those was the La.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Rams, who were basically dealing with guys who had just
gotten there in the offseason and were trying to figure
out who Matt Stafford was going to throw to. Cooper
Cup wasn't there, Pooka Nakua wasn't there. So you beat
all those bad teams and then you show up in
this game thinking, oh, we didn't need to practice the
same way, fresh off of bye we beat the terrible
Jaguars in London, and then you give up that and
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you've got people talking afterwards about your preparation. Awful, terrible loss,
a true point in the season where you can identify, Hey,
where things go wrong.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
That could have been the game, That probably was the game.
And then you're doing a.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Full back dive when you're near the goal line on
third down earlier the game. The whole thing was a
clown show. They deserve to lose. That's my ugly for
the way.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Hey, make sure you add into the fact that buddy
that was celebrating and heckling and clowning around was the
person who tipped the ball into the fella's hand. God,
that ended up being the reason why they lost. It's
just like he ran into the play lake just the
whole thing, and made the play the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
He made the play.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Like they literally Maddybraflus has won three games on the
road in his career, and they're celebrating like, oh, we
got this one, and then he goes to Mary.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Then he goes and tips the ball into the receiver's ads.
The window gave.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
There are a few videos of the Chicago Bears like
local bars watching the game. The reaction, Oh god, pretty classic.
I mean, just singing the fight song, you know, watching
everyone's cheering and happy and just complete silence.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
It's like, I just I don't know how you you
come back from that and go all right, listen, don't
worry about it, no big deal, like that is a
brutal loss. And then you just see some of the
other players like walking off the field like I don't
know what he's doing, Like so ugly situation. And uh,
the game against the Cardinals this weekend can't come soon enough.
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They'll probably lose that one too, So it's a fun time,
fun time.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
At least you were able to sell some of those
cubstickets this year, though, right, what's that?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Oh for? I'm sorry? The who's tickets?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Cubs here?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Is?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
What about them? Mine?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Already Cubs dis Oh god.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
No, I think we should have a celebrity death match
between the infamous ball grabbers.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
All yeah, Oh, Bartman would lose.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I think we should line them up. He wouldn't even
show up.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Riversad Not sure they'd be a fair fight.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh no, they might start breakdance wars and stuff. They
might not even fight.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Curious, see what do Petro's thoughts are.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh, I can't wait to hear it. I can't wait here.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
He's got to be excited.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Though, right, Yeah does he get excited?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, Big Don will. He'll probably an impression of Ole
Big Don.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Okay, Yeah. The longer it goes, the better it is
for everybody involved. So we just ho if we get
another game, have a Dodger Stadium there, Well, there you go.
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Can I tell you guys what I got to do
with the family last night? So we went to the
Columbus Cruise first playoff game and unfortunately they lost, which
at this point I'm pretty sure I'm the mush like
maybe we just shouldn't go anymore. But our kids were
like very taken back by the atmosphere of like soccer.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Fans, and I was trying to say.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I was like, you know, you know fans get excited.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, yeah, not even so much like the fans who
kind of just are are passionate about the team and yell.
But there was one dressed up but like a banana.
I have no idea, maybe because it's close to Halloween.
There are some others who they laminated. Okay, these gigantic
basically cards like a referee or an official would pull
(01:51):
out for a yellow card or red card, and they
kept like every time there was a penalty or looked
like they might be a penalty, they'd be standing up,
holding them up like it had some impact on something.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
And I haven't been enough soccer games to know if
that's a thing, but my kids are like, what is that?
Why is what yellow? Wise? Wood red?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So I was explaining it to him, which my oldest
kind of knew, but then after that, I'm like, that's
kind of weird, Like you have to kind of think
about how much time you're putting into like what you're
bringing with you to a soccer match. And then he
had like this peep this PBC pipe with like a
flag attached to it.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
He was waving it around.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm like much that that could be viewed as a weapon,
that's to some people or depending on how much more
this guy drinks. And it was just there was a
lot of like people washing going on from there. So
I'm not sure if it was a starring experience for
the kids. I think they enjoyed it. They mostly loaded
up on like peanuts, popcorn, and whatever the junk food
they could try to find.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
But how many people you think were there? It was
well attended.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean it's their first of the best of three
playoff match versus New York Red Bulls, So I mean,
here's what sad is. The last game we went to
was Inner Miami, so it was Messy and Swerez, so
there was a lot of like hometown fans, but that
place was pat It was for the Supporter Shield, which
(03:17):
I believe is like the regular season you know, championship,
you know, best record, And there was people who were
just there to see Messi too, right, like he's that
big of a draw. So that was a little different
because just because there's so many people there, this one
was it.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Wasn't quite as well attended, but it was it was
still pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I probably would guess they're at like eighty five to
ninety percent capacity.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know, I'm curious why wouldn't there be more soccer players,
like pro soccer players angling opportunities to kick in football?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Randon Aubrey, Yeah, you know, best in the league.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I just I found it to be kind of curious,
like why not, Like when you see a situation taking
place with like a team and they are in need
of a kicker and the worst way, why why do
they not just you know, let me go try out
for this, you know, let me see what let me
see what I could do with it.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Remember Tony Meola, who is the goalkeeper for the US
national team, like in the nineties, I remember he tried
out as a kicker for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
They be booting them balls like all the way down
the field, them goalies. Why wouldn't they want to be
a punter? And wouldn't it be wouldn't it be easier
to kick an oblong shape the ball versus a just
a regular soccer ball? I think it would be. You know,
(04:44):
I think the surfaces are are so much different like
soccer balls are much smoother than what a football would be.
I mean, it's just I think it'd be easier. I mean,
I don't know. It's curious.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I want to ask you something, and I want you
to be honest. If your son came up to you
and said, Dad, I don't want to be a kicker,
would you try and talk him out of it?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
No, Probably the best position you could ever play. If
you can do it without long snapper. It's it's like
it's up there, but there's still like job detriment to it.
Like you could get fed up as a as a
long snapper, especially if you're one that goes downfield to
make tackles like you can get you can get clipped
up pretty good.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well, if you're a Niner s kicker. They had two
straight games and a guy go down and try and
make a tackle and get into Yah, don't go down.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well you're not supposed to go down, as you know.
That's what kind of turned me from a hero to
a hill in college. It is because I was beating
punters up in the games. But that was my job.
I was, that was in my scout report. Hit them,
keep hitting them, and then he's going to shake a
punt turn me into a hill. Anyways, I was just wondering.
(05:56):
I was just curious, like, why aren't there more you
don't hear about it? Like high school, you got to
you got to try to find a soccer player to
kick for your hot. Like when I was coaching high school,
I was one hundred percent like what do you need?
I'm talking to the soccer coach, like, well you need
I just need one to two of your guys. What
you need? Like, how can I make this happen? If
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you get a soccer player, you actually got a good
shot at being able to win some some close games
in high school. We're seeing it struggles in college, you
know what I mean, You're seeing struggles in the pros.
I would just think, like in a game where it's
really football, why wouldn't you have more guys Like I
would assume that you would have the position would be
dominated by soccer players.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think I know why?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Why Because they ain't ready for the getty dang realized
there got to really visit the Serengetti as a kicker
though it's really out there, you know, it could probably
use a kicker. Though the Jets apparently it only took
New York Bulls. It only took three h three games
Greg's Airline costing them for them to realize, you know,
(07:00):
should probably have some tryouts. So they try it out
six kickers yesterday.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That's a lot. That's the that you guys have talked
about tuesdays when all of a sudden these new faces
show up kick jobs. So apparently they tried out six
kickers yesterday and the tryouts are going to continue today.
So it looks like Greg's Airlines days might be numbered
with the Jets now.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
If they don't tryouts as serious, man, that means they're
addressing this. It's a really really serious issue. If you're
holding out tryout.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Thing that I would want to see is consistency.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I would make kickers come for two days and I'd
work them out for two days, so not having like
a second waive or a different group. I'd have the
same group come back kick again, and I'd hope that
maybe the wind conditions are a little bit different, maybe
it's a little wetter, maybe it's.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Not, whatever the case is, I would just want to see.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
More of what they're going to be because the decision
they're going to make at this point, Greg zu winz
kicked in the NFL for a long time time, so
he's having a bad stretch. Now your predicament is, can
he right that ship faster and play more to the
level of why he's there in the first place, then
(08:14):
some guy who's on the street. And so you've got
to make that decision in what an hour kicking work
account on one day or maybe two days combined, which
is what i'd call for.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
It's a bit of a risk.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Like as much as we want to like everyone loves
the backup, everyone loves the next guy. Okay, well, the
next guy's in the street for a reason, and if
he comes in and does the same exact thing, we're
not going to be having a conversation about Greg Zorlin anymore.
It's gonna be the next guy. And then how inept
this front office or the coaching staff or whoever made
the decision to bring the next guy in, right, That's
(08:50):
where that leads to. So that's the tough part about
the situation for the Jets is, look, has he cost.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Them three games?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, you can make that case, but there's also a
lot of plays that factored in in every one of
those games. But the truth is again, he's been there
for a reason, and if you take him out because
he's not performing well, you give that roster spot up.
A could be subject to get picked up somewhere else.
Maybe you would maybe wouldn't, but be the next guy
coming in it might not be as good anyway. So
(09:20):
there's always that risk that they take, And it's one
of the reasons why I would keep the dude. I
might sign the dude and have him be there for
a week, maybe two weeks, Have both those guys be there,
have them both kick and get a sense for like
how comfortable I can be with whoever the best guy
is of this group we're bringing in, And I'd let
them compare, because that's the thing is like if you
(09:41):
all of a sudden cut Greg zurloin, have this other
guy come in and kick, you don't have the comparison
and seeing the two of them next to each other
for like a week and where you're like, all right,
maybe the grass isn't greener in this case.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Jeff Olbrick, the head coach of the Jets, talked about
the idea behind the tryouts.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, we're gonna this next couple of days, We're gonna
we're going to see we're at create as much stress
and as much competition as we can and the guys
that are here and make a decision.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
And like I said, next couple days before the game.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
So there we go. By the way, I should be
noted that if the Jets don't make the playoffs one
hundred percent, the only reason LeVar is because of Greg
zerr Line. It has nothing to do with Rogers poor play.
It has nothing to do with any of that. And
apparently there's somebody's floating out the idea there Brady, that
maybe trade Rogers. Maybe that's a possibility that maybe the
(10:33):
Jets could move on from him and deal him.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Dude, all right, Like, I respect Mike Florio for the
platform that he's built.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You tell us too, how tireless he's working at times,
But why float out the idea of a Rogers trade?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Like?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Why do it?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And I understand the exact point of you putting that
article up is so we click and then you get
you know, can can drive more AD revenue, et cetera,
whatever the business mind is, and then we talk about
it so you get more credit for In that case,
he's got a no trade clause like it ends there,
Like it literally ends there. It's not saying it's not
possible he's traded, But what the team's gonna come to and.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Say, Hey, this hasn't really worked out, man, we got
a couple of suitors.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You want to go somewhere Like No, he's not gonna
want to go learn another offense or go to another
team and try to figure things out in one of
those spots. So he's never going to actually entertain that
the team at this point is in so in bed
with him in the manner of the decisions they've made,
they're not gonna move on from him. I mean, the
whole thing is asinine to even throw that out there,
(11:39):
just to throw the towel on the rest of the seat,
and like this is this is the type of deal
where they're all going down with the ship.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
We talked about the ty Canton Tannic.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
They're the band playing as this thing's going down, and
the captain who's standing there at the wheel going down
with the ship. They're either gonna rip off a bunch
of wins or they're gonna die trying. And that's how
the twenty twenty four seasons went In for the New
York Jets, but Rogers before the year, like we're all
but forget that, Like why, Like you, he knows in
(12:09):
the sense that he reads contracts Mike for so he
knows they have a no trade clause in place, and
Rogers is gonna be willing to waive it. I mean,
it just it doesn't make any sense to even entertain
the idea of that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I just think, outside of a clibait, I just think
you're putting it out there is for effect. That's that's
I mean, I think he put it exactly clickbake.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Was there also a link to buy Florio's latest book
in the article as well too? Or is that on
another page the.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Link was also there.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
There's a big surprise, real surprise. By the way the
Jets to make the play.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And by the way to address you. I did not
say that they would not make the playoffs because of
Aaron Rodgers. I said that talent cannot outperform dysfunction. I
didn't say Aaron Rodgers couldn't. I did not specify Aaron Rodgers,
even though he has emerged as the catalyst of outside
of I guess you would love to blame Zerline, right,
(13:05):
I would say the catalyst of of the the additional
dysfunction that was already there has been their quarterback. But
that's that's still it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Greg Zerlines should be ashamed of himself. He got him down.
He's got Robert Salo's blood on his hands, right, all right,
Greg Zerlin, Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, and the end of his
he ruined You're It. He ruined the end of Aaron Rodgers' career.
He got Robert Salah fired, and he's got You're It
on the high yeah. Like and and Jeff Olbrick is
(13:36):
an alum of Hawaii and he's trying to go out
there and get things done for the Rainbow Warriors, like
Timmy Chang is there in Honolulu, and instead Greg Zerlin
goes in there and just disrupts everything and just ruins
careers and gets people fired. That's Greg Zerline. That's why
this is happening.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
So Greg Zurlin is an eighty two kicker in his career.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Now that's also actoring in sixty percent this year, so
that's tough.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
He's nine for fifteen on the season. Last year he
made ninety two percent of his field goals. So just
going back to my initial point, like he's there for
a reason. He's kicked really well. In fact, he's been
above eighty percent for the majority of his career, with
the exception of his rookie year back in twenty twelve
(14:27):
and then this year obviously, which has been a long
departure from where he's been. And mind you, the extra
point that he messed last week was his first.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
One of the season.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So I think it's a tough decision for the Jets
to make, even though ultimately his play is not equated
to helping them win some football games, you move on
to someone else, man, I mean, can they kick a
sixty plus yard kick? Zerolin's done it multiple times?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Are they going to be as.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Accurate when the pressure's on? I mean, we can talk
about pressure and practice. We all know that I ain't
the same type of pressures in a game, right, Like
it's it's a different pressure when you have to do
something live in front of thousands of people on national television.
And the wind conditions are going to be different too
than they are at Forham Park there in New Jersey.
Like I could trust you it's gonna be different in
(15:18):
MetLife versus being a Forlim Park. So it's I would
almost like take these guys to try out at MetLife Stadium,
have them be kicking balls left and right the next
forty eight hours, or even just say don't worry about practice,
you guys, just go kicking MetLife the rest of the
rest of the week.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Well, we'll see it.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
There on game day.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I think the saddest part of it is that if
Zerline was making kicks for this team.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
That.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
All all of the great restaurants around town would have
created a cut of steak that was called the.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Zert Line the stake. Yeah, I think so like that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I think he was. I think he was on the
way if you just kicked a little bit better. I
think he should be investigated for fixing game. I don't
I don't know about I feel like if he was
kicking well for an Aaron Rodgers led football team and
the New York Jets were doing well, it just sounds
like it would just make sense. You got to Del Monico,
(16:19):
you got the Porterhouse, you got the Cowboy, and then
you got to strip zer Line.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I'm just that good call, you know what I mean?
That ain't happening now, Yeah, you get to dang. I
mean he will get cut, just not a kind of steak.
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here, A that's
gonna happen. I'll tell you, I think he should be
(16:48):
investigated for fixing games. I think that's what's happening here.
It's not Aaron Rodgers fault. It's you heard that here,
all right? So coming up next here, we got something
on this show that's to fire a member of this crew. Up,
all right, some comments about a big time game coming
up this weekend. That'll be yours here next on FSR.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
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Speaker 4 (17:23):
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Sports Radio. A little over fifteen minutes from now, it
is our midweek Awards. The good, the bad, the ugly.
They will be yours here on FSR so Beaver Stadium
where Penn Stay plays. I don't know if you know
that far about I mean, it depends if you want
to take the toll roads you could take the toll roads.
It's a little under three hours. If you want to
(17:44):
take the I seventy six to the US three twenty
two west, you could do that, or you just take
the three twenty two. It's about three hours. But if
you just took that route one way from State College there,
you'd end up at a little place called Downington West
High School. Downingtown that too, And apparently that's where Will Howard,
(18:10):
the Ohio state quarterback.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
That's where That's where Will Howard could ask you don't.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Have to act, you know, act like you're from every place.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You could have asked me so that she sounds I was.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I was making sure LeVar was was listening. I was
trying to make sure everybody was on the same page.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
What'd you call it? Downington?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That sounds like the preppy, pinky raising tea drinking. That's
my Midwest accents out there, and that the California that's
my dodging those pro v ones.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
That's my it's my Midwest accent, you know, Will Howard. Yeah,
the pride of Downingtown, you I like to call it.
So he's getting ready for a big matchup, you know,
back in the sort of nearly as a little stomping
grounds in Beaver Stadium this weekend, and he spoke about
(19:04):
the matchup against the Penn State Nitman Alliance.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
I'm stoked. I'm stoked. I cannot wait. It's gonna be
a homecoming for me. I grew up a Penn State fan.
I wanted to go there my whole life. They didn't
think I was good enough, but uh, I guess we'll
see you next week if I was damn right.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, for the record, Ohio stated he was going to
be there until this past year, so there's that.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
It's like, I just it always makes me.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Laugh when, like, you know, these young men get all
fired up and you know they're time on all this
and you transferred. It's like, well, yeah, dude, Like only
I mean, Kansas State was where you picked. I don't
know how well he was recruited before that, but I
mean there's a lot of other schools that fall into
that category. You could be upset at Penn State all
you want, but it wasn't just them. I mean, Ohio
State didn't either until this past year. And there's probably
(19:54):
some fans right now who aren't overly excited about what
they saw this past weekend. So I do you appreciate
the storylines of college football though, because they're a bit
more new, they're a bit more raw.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
You know, there's an element of like the.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Player gets to choose, but so does the school too, right,
Like if they don't offer you, you can't choose to
go there. So he's fired up for the matchup. He's
fired up to prove something to them. And I mean,
var it's gonna be a huge game, huge atmosphere, and
I think it's gonna have his work cut out for
him man with that Penn State defense.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, I think in a lot of ways, this is
that year. I know, I think they gave Ohio stayed
like a sixty plus percent chance probability of winning the game.
I think you got to look at the trenches in
this game and when when you measure it out, this
(20:50):
is probably the one team in most recent years, including
last year, where I thought that they had a pretty
pretty solid chance to go into to Ohio and Columbus
and win the game. But this year, more so than
probably most years, maybe the last four or five years
(21:11):
that I've I've seen them play Ohio State, These these
fronts may be better than what the fronts are in Ohio. Like,
our defensive front is as stout as it's been and
the adge the adges are are really good. They're they're
(21:31):
just as elite as as any other adges out there.
And on offense, which I think is super, super way
more important to this game, because our offensive front has
not stood up to Ohio State and in this dominance
that they've they've exhibited and executed against us. Our offensive
(21:51):
front is as as physical and as as good a
group as I've seen in quite some time. And when
you're able to to play play in the trenches the
way they've been playing it, you know, it opens things up.
And I think that it was very evident in the
Wisconsin game because that that turns into a trench warfare
(22:12):
game and and that was going to be a dirt,
dirty like gritty, gritty, grind out type of game. I
think Ohio State, I think this is a good matchup.
I really do. I think it's going to be a
good game. I think it's a good matchup. And you know,
whether Puhla pre Beulah prep Beulah or or al or
(22:36):
whichever one plays, some would say that the team might
be better off with Bow in the in the mix
versus it just being Drew. I'm a big Drew. I'm
a big Drew fan, and so whichever one it ends
up being, you know, I still think that our running
attack has just really it's worn everybody down. Tyler Warren
(22:59):
and I running backs have worn everybody down. And you know,
I don't I don't really see that slowing up this week.
To be honest, what do.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You think I would say this about Pribula? He may
be a better matchup for Penn State versus Ohio State.
For this reason, Ohio States struggled to stop running quarterbacks.
I mean Dylan roy Ol last week. He's not a
running quarterback by any means, He's athletic enough. He impacted
that game with his legs. Stone the quarterback at Marshall.
(23:28):
There was times early in that game before Ohio State
distanced themselves he impacted with his legs. That to me
is a weak point for this Ohio State defense. They've
struggled to get pressure. And beyond that, if you've got
a quarterback who can run and they do so that
backfield you just discussed with Prabula, I think presents eight
lot of issues and if you can force the defense
(23:51):
to give you those one on one opportunities. We already
saw how that worked out versus Oregon, where you know
the receivers on the outside can make enough plays, especially
in a tight game, you get a win. And this
will be a tight game. I don't these teams are
too evenly matched.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
I don't think anyone's gonna run.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Away with it.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I'm I'm I'm excited for it, and I'll you know,
I'll see you maybe possibly, I'll.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
See you there. Penn State three and a half point
underdogs and DraftKings right now, I think about that, like
it money line that one.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh yeah, I have money line this one.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Hey, dar has been dead all with these money lines.
My picks against the spread go back through Ashley. He
has been dead on.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It's going to be hard. I'm telling you, it's going
to be hard for them to deal with the physicality
upfront on both sides. That's what I think is going
to be. I mean, generally, that's the easy way of
saying that's going to be the difference in the game.
But I really believe that here that it's going to
be the physicality of Penn State upfront, So if it
gets if it if it doesn't go that way for
(24:54):
some reason this this year, this time around, it's probably
that that one one year where you could sit there
and be like.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
M will you let Ohio State fans into the Stick
City tailgate?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Sure? Like if Albert Brier rolls by, sure does.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
He allowed in?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Does?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's all about hospitality, man, Like, that's what sports are for,
for hospitality purposes.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's when var turns into a businessman, not the king
of the mammals.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, it's all about having a good time and and
you know, coming together and sharing, sharing stories and sharing moments,
whether you're an Ohio State fan or you're a Penn
State fan. Now after the game, that will maybe be
a little different. If we win, they'll be welcomed and
(25:42):
if we lose, maybe.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Not so much. Whether I saw some people complaining that
the game was a noon game.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
A lot of people complaining about it being you know, what.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Do you like get up earlier? Like what's what's the problem,
Like what else you got to going on? Like sorry,
it's not in prime time. It's a noon kick Like
it's a huge stage. It's a great game, Like I'm
a big fan of Big Ten games in those early
time slots. Personally, like when I think Michigan Ohio State,
(26:11):
I think that's the time slot I think of. And
this idea everything's got to be catered to everybody so
they can sleep in a little bit, get your lazy
ass up and watch some football.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Well, I have a hard time believing people are going
to be in sleeping in the past noon.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
But what a lot of people don't realize is.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
The new Big Ten media rights deal is partially to
blame for why games.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Are when they are.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's a slotted agreement between three networks, so it's harder
to move games around because you have two other networks
you're dealing with. In the past, there was only one.
It was just Fox and ESPN. Now you have CBS
and NBC, who, by the way, are not as accustomed
to dealing with how to navigate a college football schedule.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
For a conference.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Since, if you think about it, NBC just had Notre
Dame they now are in the Big Ten. CBS just
had the number one game in the SEC. Now you
can make the case CBS Sports Network had some other rights,
but this is a whole different animal. This is the
Big Ten with conference rear alignment. There's more big there's
bigger brands, there's more schools, and they're navigating what is
(27:21):
looked at as very similar to the NFL window. And
that's what the Big Ten wanted for it. There to
be a noon three point thirty primetime game, no different
than that one four o'clock primetime game where you had
Fox and CBS kind of you know, back and forth
with their one to four o'clock games, and then you
have NBC in primetime. That's that's how this thing is
(27:44):
set up. So for a lot of people out there
who are frustrated with it, they need to go read
the Big ten media rights agreement. Understand that there's only
there's only a certain amount of games that they can
put in certain slots, and the networks have the ability
to put in certain slots based on the actual media
rights deal. So that gets lost in the discussion. And
then the reality is no one reads the details anymore. Right,
(28:06):
We scroll down the page, we click accept, and whatever
the terms in the agreements are, we accept them. But
there are much finer details to this agreement that put
some of these bigger games in the noon window for
a reason.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
But that's also the Big Ten saying.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So there's two thoughts to that, like one, take up
your gripe with the Big Ten conference, and then two,
you're also getting paid handsomely by these TV networks. So
if you really have a big issue with the TV
networks about it, get back the money.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
You can always do.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
That too, I mean, and if they've got to complaint,
I mean, you could always communicate via walkie talkie.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
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Speaker 4 (29:13):
Damn right, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
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and the ugly, and they are yours.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
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Speaker 5 (29:35):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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I'm sure I have plenty of thoughts on the Dodgers
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(29:58):
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Speaker 3 (30:26):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some
bad and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time
for good, bad and lovely?
Speaker 4 (30:36):
All right?
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Lead to lap who's got what?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
As you know, we start with the good each and
every week, and you know it's an especially good week
when Brady is delivering the good.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Right, No way, really, Lee? Really yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Really?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
This one's easy for me and it's more than good.
It's great. It's Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
His performance so far in the World Series is one
of the greatest of all time. I know they have
an want it yet, but up three to one, four
straight home runs, four straight games. Talked about earlier, I
think it was George Springer versus the Dodgers actually back
in twenty seventeen, who last.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Was able to do something like this.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
It just it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Seems remarkable on that stage that he's the guy able
to do it. So it's better than good, it's great,
and it's Freddy Freeman this week.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Well, you can't have good or great without bad. LaVar
what was bad this week?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, it wasn't so easy for me on my decision,
So I would give you both. The first one is
if it is indeed true that Anthony Richardson lost his
job because of opting out because he was tired to play,
that is definitely bad. But then I was conflicted because
(31:50):
I was reminded that the face of that fan and
how he was enjoying and reveling and opening the glove,
prying the glove open of the player to try to
get the ball, remove the ball from his glove, and
just how that looked. Just that was bad too. So
(32:12):
I'll give you both those. I gave you two bats
for the week. Richardson and the fan of the Yankees
in the World Series.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Don't know how you can get worse? But Jonas what
was ugly this week?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Oh, it's very.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Easy to get worse.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Want you go ahead and take a.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Peek, get a whiff of the conclusion of the Washington
Commanders Chicago Bears game on Sunday? And you know what's
worse than the fact that the Bears lost that game
on a hail? Mary and Tyreek Stevenson is celebrating with
Bears fans and doesn't realize that the receivers are at
the twenty until he goes, oh, yeah, I should probably
get over there and try and do something about this.
(32:50):
It's the whole aftermath afterwards. Matt eberflu is trying to
explain it away Tyreek Stevenson saying, oh, listen, you know
I gotta be better.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
I got to be better for my teammates. It's out
of my character.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
It's like, okay, well, was it out of your character
when you pointed at a guy's face and got a
fifteen yard penalty earlier in the game, And then you've
got Cole Comet coming out afterwards and pointing out that, like, yeah,
we didn't really you know, practice all that well or
prepare all that well during the week. You know, there
were some things that we probably could have done a
little bit better. They beat a bunch of bad football
teams three in a row.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
One of those was the La.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Rams, who were basically dealing with guys who had just
gotten there in the offseason and were trying to figure
out who Matt Stafford was going to throw to. Cooper
Cup wasn't there, Pooka Nakua wasn't there. So you beat
all those bad teams and then you show up in
this game thinking, oh, we didn't need to practice the
same way, fresh off of bye we beat the terrible
Jaguars in London, and then you give up that and
(33:46):
you've got people talking afterwards about your preparation. Awful, terrible loss,
a true point in the season where you can identify, Hey,
where things go wrong.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
That could have been the game, That probably was the game.
And then you're doing a.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Full back dive when you're near the goal line on
third down earlier the game. The whole thing was a
clown show. They deserve to lose. That's my ugly for
the way.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Hey, make sure you add into the fact that buddy
that was celebrating and heckling and clowning around was the
person who tipped the ball into the fella's hand. God,
that ended up being the reason why they lost. It's
just like he ran into the play lake just the
whole thing, and made the play the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
He made the play.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Like they literally Maddybraflus has won three games on the
road in his career, and they're celebrating like, oh, we
got this one, and then he goes to Mary.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Then he goes and tips the ball into the receiver's ads.
The window gave.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
There are a few videos of the Chicago Bears like
local bars watching the game. The reaction, Oh god, pretty classic.
I mean, just singing the fight song, you know, watching
everyone's cheering and happy and just complete silence.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
It's like, I just I don't know how you you
come back from that and go all right, listen, don't
worry about it, no big deal, like that is a
brutal loss. And then you just see some of the
other players like walking off the field like I don't
know what he's doing, Like so ugly situation. And uh,
the game against the Cardinals this weekend can't come soon enough.
(35:23):
They'll probably lose that one too, So it's a fun time,
fun time.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
At least you were able to sell some of those
cubstickets this year, though, right, what's that?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Oh for? I'm sorry? The who's tickets?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Cubs here?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Is?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
What about them? Mine?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Already Cubs dis Oh god.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
No, I think we should have a celebrity death match
between the infamous ball grabbers.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
All yeah, Oh, Bartman would lose.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I think we should line them up. He wouldn't even
show up.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Riversad Not sure they'd be a fair fight.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh no, they might start breakdance wars and stuff. They
might not even fight.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Curious, see what do Petro's thoughts are.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh, I can't wait to hear it. I can't wait here.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
He's got to be excited.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Though, right, Yeah does he get excited?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, Big Don will. He'll probably an impression of Ole
Big Don.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Okay, Yeah. The longer it goes, the better it is
for everybody involved. So we just ho if we get
another game, have a Dodger Stadium there, Well, there you go.
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