November 1, 2024 • 36 mins
The Bears continue to have problems in house. LaVar previews Penn State vs LaVar. Producer Lee eats 4am nachos, guacamole hacks, first responders on Halloween and more!
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Brady Quinn tested positive for PEDS during a trigger treating
route last night.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And uh, you know, listen all kinds of people getting
pulled over on my way in Oh let me drive right.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
And by the way for the the guy who was
in the motorcycle r ipang.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And man tang too soon, man soon.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So I don't know what the outcome was, you do,
I mean, you can guess, but yeah, not been there.
Not great for Uh, let's just put it this way.
A lot of people probably shouldn't have been driving last
night based on what we saw driving into work today.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know a lot of wild s when you drive
in at off hours. Man, tell you that I saw.
I saw the one guy I was pulled over. I
was moving slow enough and and the officer's vehicle had
the light shined on it so bright that you could
see it like it was like broad daylight. Dude was
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an interesting looking character. Man like shots out to our
first responders. Man, because let me tell you something, there'd
be a lot of complaints about how things are done
and how they're handled at times. But I got to
tell you if you're on the other side of it
and you're a family member of a first responder and
and they're doing their jobs. Bruh, that that's gotta be
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a very, very, very scary deal to have to just
do routine stops. Oh god, routine like deals in that profession.
I saw the way I do. Look, man, let me
tell you something. I couldn't be in law enforcement. I
couldn't do it because the way I do. Look the
moment I saw him, I'm going, oh, okay, ads on
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the wheel.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
My guy, ads on the wheel. I have a couple
buddies who are cops, a couple that are firemen, and
some of the stuff they see on a daily basis
that's just routine, is wild, yeah, man. And like you'll
hear these stories and it's like oh, Like they'll be
asking like, hey, so, so what's it like?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's like, Oh, you know, we just you know, we
do radio like this and that, like what how are
things going with you guys?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Oh saw this, this and this? And you're thinking, Jesus,
I always thank our first responders, man, every time I
see them, you know, I shake, Like when I go
to the Penn State Games, I shake, I shake their hands, man, like,
just thanking for their service. You know, I'm big on
raising money for them, raising money for our volunteers. Absolutely.
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Did you know that all? Pretty much every fire department
in Pennsylvania, for I believe the most part, they're all volunteers. Yeah,
they're volunteering to save your life. If something pops off,
like if you need to be saved or you know,
you need to hit nine one, one emergency vehicle shows up.
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Those are volunteers that are the firemen. So anyways, that's
just that's what I thought of this morning because I
saw a lot of emergency vehicles this morning driving into work.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Just get an uber or get a lift, dummies, all right,
it's not it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know, pay a little cash, get what is it,
twenty bucks for a ride? That's better than That's on
where you're coming from, okay, is it depends on where
you're coming from. They'll get you. They'll get you if
you coming like say you did something downtown or did
something in like you know, Santa Monica, or did something
and like you know, I don't know, like one of
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the beach cities and you're going back out to the Inland.
It's pricey. You know what a dui is, that's pricey. Yeah,
you know what. You know, rend or death, you know
what that motorcycle and you know what the cost of
that one is? Good god man, Yeah, it's uh, it's
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I'm with you there, I'm with you. Figure it out.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
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Speaker 1 (06:03):
The way tire buying should be. All right.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So, speaking of messes, Oh no, look, I told you guys,
your people from Momuth. Let me tell you how annoy
home a wide earth. I told you guys that if
the Bears could have played a game and gone to
Arizona and played the Cardinals on Monday or Tuesday, they
would have because they need to rid themselves of whatever
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the hell that vomiting, defecating clown show was at the
end of that game against the Washington commanders, they need
to rid themselves of that, get that stench off them,
and go play another game and try and win another game,
just to get as far away from that experience.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It went from such a feel good situation to the
triumphant return of Caleb Williams back to the district where
he's from. And by the way, kid waves in that
fourth quarter game winning drive to take the league.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Like they stroke gold all game. And then the fourth
quarter came around and he was dealing like he had
no time virtually, like he missed some throws obviously, but
they couldn't keep him up right. He was scrambling for
his life. And then the fourth quarter came around and
it was like, okay, now it's about talent and willing
my team to win. And that guy was making play
after play after play had him in line to win
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a game.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
They had the game one. Yeah, like the game was one.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And so now tail of two teams, Washington's like, all right,
we're good to go. We're sitting at what six and two?
The Bears are sitting at four and three. They could
have both been sitting at five and two or whatever
it was, or five and three, and so you look
at the situation, or the Bears would have gone to
five and two. Now they're sitting at four and three,
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and so you look at the situation, you go, all right,
So what exactly happened not just on that play but
throughout the course of the game. And one of the
moments that people are still scratching their heads at is
the Bears had a third goal and got down twelve
decent and went full back dive to a guy by
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the name of Doug Kramer, who's an offensive lineman who
had never rushed the football in his entire career, and
of course there was a fumble and Washington recovered the defense.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh my god, your boy ain't here to get you
here to get you up top on up top on
that one. And so they did you know the fridge
he successfully was.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Of course, yeah, but he hates fridge And so you're
you're trying to recreate it in that spot. You're thinking, like,
why the play call and they've been you know, the
offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron defended the play go, well, it
just didn't work out clearly, and then Matt Eberflus, kind
of the head coach, defended the play.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Call well, DJ Moore was openly.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Critical of the play call, and apparently Matt Eberflus and
him had a conversation about it, and DJ Moore got,
you know, listen, we're all clear here. I get what
you're putting down. I don't feel any regret about it.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
We all talked about it, and me and Fluce talked
about it with the captains and just guys, stay in
the house next time. I'm not gonna say sorry for
what I said, but at the same time, it is, uh,
it should have just stayed in the house.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But I said what I.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Said, that's a oh there you go. Yeah, you know
what that is. Though, that's a it was a terrible idea,
and I'm sorry. We can have this conversation with the
coach all we want, but that's a terrible idea. And
then you get these other reports that come out that
at the start of the year, you know how like
you were an offensive coordinator before, Like you guys had
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like scripted plays.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
To start off with you, right, Like that's everybody does
that go off the script? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You know who didn't embarrass They're like, well, we had
like plays that we're kind of gotta go to. But
you know, not exactly a script. And then finally DJ
Moore and some others got with the coaching staff and
we're like, hey, can we get on script? Yeah, can
we like know what we're doing? And like it's just like,
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but you've got now. So now, this is multiple times
through the first two months of the season that they're
openly questioning the coaching staff play calling decisions, strategies, Like
Caleb Williams like lost in the shuffle of that Hail
Mary was he like, you can see Caleb Williams pulling
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Matt Eberflus off the field because Matt Eberflus had had
walked onto the field and they asked Caleb Williams about
it and they're like, yeah, so what was going on there?
He's like, well, I didn't want to get penalized and
give them more free yardage because we already did that
to play before when we didn't do anything about that
little quick out that Terry McLaurin ran.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
And so like this is over and over and over again.
Well far two months in, If this is happening this much,
what are we talking about here? Like, there's no way
that there's that there's common in the coaching staff, if
the players feel like they've got enough power and enough
say so to be like no, no, no, no no. If
this is what's coming to the surface, I can't imagine what.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's like behind the scenes there. Well, what's interesting is
is that we live in a day and age where
the athlete is unafraid. You know, these used to be
taboo like no nos. If you ever heard anything come
from a player about the team, about the coach, anything internal,
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chances were they would get cut. And if it was
a big name guy, it would create a whole lot
of static within the team, within the team ranks. And
maybe that's still how it is. I don't know. It
just seems as though that there is more of a
freeness and I think it's because of technology. I think
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it's because of social media. I think it's because of
where the priorities of how we communicate and the new
ways of how we connect and communicate to our fan bases.
I think that plays a large part of it. Traditional
media is not traditional media so much anymore. It's not
the main sources of the way you kind of consume
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your information, and so athletes have become more Maybe it's
entitled with how they approach things and how they say
things and how they do things. And I don't know
that you can create an environment where the repercussions of
it are are are strong enough because most of the
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people that are doing this are big name players. So
you can't. You can't, Well, how are you going to
really adjust and adapt how the player is evolving with
how they communicate with what's going on. It's it's just
very difficult. Like you go from a day and age
where if you said something, it now goes to the
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local media. Right, Generally it didn't go to the national
media until it was you got an os like, oh
did that really happen? Do you really say that? From
the local media? Right? And then now it comes out
the way that it's it's presented by local media, whether
it's a writer for the for the local paper or
whether it is a reporter for the local you know,
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television reports. That's like you're at the mercy of what
those reporters report, and that's how you're going to be portrayed.
So if he said something like that, that's going to
be brought up to the coach before it even generally
hits the public for consumption. There's going to be a
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conversation da da da. They're still going to release it,
but they're going to release it with the spin of
what they're they're going to release the story on on
how they're reporting it. Now, it's just it's all an uncut,
Like I'll go to my social media, I'll talk about
it on my live I'll know filter. There's no filter, bro,
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And it's totally changed the way that that the fan
is able to to consume the information. It's totally changed
how the athlete does it. So I'm not really sure
how that that works. Like openly criticizing your coaches, openly
criticizing your team. Oh, like Aaron Rodgers does it every week.
He does it every week. I mean, whether he's criticizing
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himself include it. He does it every single week.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Like, here's what I'm curious about is if you've got
players who are captains, leaders that are publicly giving the
side eye to the coaching staff that coach is done,
and then being told by the coach, hey, we need
to keep that in house, and then doubling down and.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I met what I said, like, what the hell? What
was the conversation like behind that coach Bruh, That coach
is on He's on the clock. That's what I'm saying.
When you lose, when you lose a locker room, you're
on the clock. Because how how do you coach if
you don't have any more control over your locker room
than that where players fell the freedom and they feel
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the comfort and the ease of being able to say
what they feel as it applies to something that could
be derogatory towards your team, towards your you as a coach,
you don't And that's a leader saying it. You don't
have the locker room any That's what I'm saying. And
it's not You're not in a good position.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
And if you ever like followed DJ Moore's career, he's
not one of these guys that normally like complains about
anything or let go.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It probably doesn't. It probably doesn't need to be viewed
as a malicious way of how he approached it. He
just said what he felt. He just said what he felt.
I mean, we saw that take place with Seattle when
they didn't give Marshaan Lynch the ball, right, I mean,
and they try to throw it and end up losing
the Super Bowl. You'll see guys have criticisms. Sometimes it's malicious,
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sometimes it's not. In this case, I don't you know,
I don't know. I don't know how he feels about
you know, his coach, his coaching staff, his offensive coordinator.
As a head coach. I don't know how how more
feels about him. But I do know when you lose
a game like that, you're gonna feel the pressure. Because
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it's a large market team, You're going to feel the
pressure of everything that took place, and you're also going
to have to navigate the feelings of what that looks
like going into the next game and for and I
mean having a bye week doesn't help, as you mentioned.
But with that being said, either you're pulling together to
try to go in the right direction to win games,
or you're pulling further apart, and it's like more self preservation.
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You never want as a coach, you never want a
team to go into self preservation mode because now that's
it's like, if you think about I said this earlier,
like you got to get all these guys going in
the right direction. It's like a school of fish. Right.
If you're running a good a good program and you're
going in the right direction. You have all the fish
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in the school going in the same direction. They're going
same place, same place, same place. Like you see orca
wells going into their pods going in the same direction.
You see dolphins going in the same direction. But if
they start going in all kinds of different directions and
there's no type of order or anything like that, it's
just all out of whack and you don't get the
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same results. And that's that to me, it's it's like
the beginning of the end. If your school of fish
ain't going in the same direction, they start going to
every which direction, it's the beginning of the end of
your tenure as the head coach there.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It was like, man like they're cruising, like like they're
in a plane and they're just cruising and everything's fine,
and then.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
All of a sudden, curbulence just hit them bad.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
A flock of birds just flew into one of the engines,
like oh boy, we're going down. Oh boy, And you
realize Soley's not flying the play and you're like, yeah,
we don't know how this is going to turn out.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We've lost ingent one, We've lost ingin one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
That like that play that one play in that game
could be the tipping point for for the end of
the road there.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It could have been a heartbreaking play, you know, but
it was so many like the like you said, the
offensive lineman fumbling bad, the dude sitting there heckling the
fans and Keith King while the play goes, and then
he's the one that tips the ball into the receiver's
hand to win the game. Bad. It's just the manner,
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the style points of which they went out and lost
that game is what makes it so easy to jump
on and make it bad. So they got to win, man,
because if they lose, You're right, you know those voices
beginning to get a little, a little louder. Yeah, not great.
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Speaker 4 (18:58):
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Speaker 4 (19:28):
By the way, Eddie some candy and therefore you I
brought in. Uh, we got one tricker tread and I said,
all right, so.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
The rest one.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
That's it the entire time. And this kid had a
pillowcase that looked like it was splitting at the seams.
I don't know where he went, but he had just
been like ransacking everybody's place.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
And he was dressed as the Purge. Oh God, So
he's walking around in this costume, but he's got this
giant pillowcase full of candy. I was like, hey, man,
take whatever you want. You're the only one we've gotten
so far. And so he helped himself.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
But there is your son old enough to partake in
trigger treating. We're waiting until he gets a little older
so he can kind of pick and choose. Uh, well,
do you let you? Do you like those those parents
who carry their kid around and then they probably eat
the candy for themselves, right.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Like No, I mean, he'll he'll go do his, but
I think he'll get so excited that like, I don't
think he'll cut anybody off. But I'm not putting it
above him that maybe there's a little bit of violence
if he feels like somebody has stepped in front of him.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I thought this was a conversation of when he'd be
old enough to be shown how to suck blood on
Wow on Halloween. Man, Huh, he's noxicon right. He's a
young vampire. Ain't that pale? He's a young vampire though,
you know he's not that fail he falls on the
where Wolf's set.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, but Eddie, there's a I don't know how you
feel about Baby Ruth, Nestley, Crunch, butter Fingers or Hunter Graham,
but they're all over there in.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
That little bucket. If I'll take a look, if there's
anything left, because Lee and Loraina have got a menu
for the ages going on at four in the morning
right now. Much more trustable source too, by the way,
you know where it came from, Eddie. All right, thank you,
Safer for you. You know I care about you. You
know what I mean, four in the morning and Mexican food.
(21:25):
I I like how you're surprised by that. I gotta
literally you didn't catch what I hit or hit Addie with.
You didn't catch that inside deal, that little inside dip,
you know when they was all up in the studio
getting their grub on the other night. Oh oh yeah,
it's a lot safer. Yeah, a much much more trusted source,
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you know. I mean, I know Loraina is good. She
was good. You know what I mean the rest of
you know, for.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
In the morning Mexican Foodele, Yeah, it's still very good.
It's a little coagulated, but it's good.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Why are you so excited about it, Lee, I'm excited
about it. It's it's delicious. It's like, right there in
front of you, you're eating it's better than candy. How
does it smell? Mix it with smells? Well, it was
my food, LeVar. I'm gonna say it smells pretty darn good.
She was done.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
I didn't want her, you know, I didn't want leftovers
to go to go bad. That's what I'm here for,
all right. Wow, Man, like deconstructed nachos.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That puts it in perspective for me. I mean, it
just continues to put it in more perspective, like that's
all you want to know?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Why when you want to know why, uh fries are
better as a I don't know how you would put
it like, nacho fries are better than nacho chips because
you can use a fork to eat them.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That's a good that's a lot better good take, But
you have to eat them right away. There's absolutely zero
way I would eat cold fries or a soggy sat
for a while thing of nacho. Oh yeah, you got
to eat it right away. You can't mess. That's just
fresh is better. Yeah, well these chips are completely fresh.
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They're in their own bag. So oh they're in their
own bag. Yeah, you're not nachos.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Then that's what I said, deconstructed, So everything's separate and
you can scoop it and get your whole notcho.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
A good move. Okay, then that's you don't get soggy.
That's more sensible. Okay. I don't judge you as badly
as I was like five ten seconds ago. I appreciate that,
because yeah I would. I would understand if you guys
deconstructed my feelings for you. And the guacamole is still green, yes,
that is like it didn't hit the dark ground.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
If it gets brown or something, it shows it's old
and aged. Can I can I give you guys a
little little tip, little pro tip from from somebody who's
married to a Mexican woman. Yes, so juice in the seat. No,
just keep the seed in. Yep.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So, if you're making guac, always take one of the seeds,
put it inside, and that way, for whatever reason, it
doesn't go brown because the seed keeps it fresh.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Wait, you put it the seed which is mixed. It's
like it's like the parent of the guak. Yeah, it
like keeps it in line. Like you will not you
will not turn a different color. Blew my mind first
time I saw it. You are not allowed to change colors.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
It's because the nut is brown, so the guacamole doesn't
want to turn into this.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Again. I mean, I'm moving on. What was the next time?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I think there's two different conversations happening here.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Great weekend in college football.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Moving on, If anybody out there's making guac over the week,
just leave the seed inside the guawk, one of the
seeds from the avocado, that big old brown nut.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, that big one. Leave it on in there by
the way.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
We're gonna spread them coming up here in about fifteen
minutes from now, or picks against the spread less than
fifteen minutes from now. Week nine in the NFL that
will be yours. But it is a big weekend in
the world of college football. A lot of under the radar,
sneaky good games going on in college football, but one
in particular that's got the interest of this show. Brady
(25:14):
Quinn will be there for big noon kickoff, but there
is one man who will be there to represent his
alma mater. It's a place bar it is trying it there,
it is. Yeah, that's the right one.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Nice job.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So Penn State, Ohio State, that is the place to
be new in Eastern time, nine o'clock Pacific there in
Happy Valley.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's going down.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
So we were there obviously for the Illinois game, which
was a night time and well, yeah, the atmosphere already
before the game had started was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, what the hell is it going to be like.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Against Ohio State in this match up, a top five
matchup between these two teams with so much on the line.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I mean, that's just all my conversations I've had during
the week. It's going to be tight brouh because there's
so many people are going to be there. Yeah, the
energy is going to be crazy, the security is going
to be crazy, The just everything, you know, I think
I think the amount of energy surrounding this game this
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year is honestly based upon just the idea that I
believe everybody seems to feel like we can win this one,
like this could be the year. And if this is
the year that they indeed, you know, kind of okay,
that's that's good. We're good on that. We're good on
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We're good on the song I appreciate, I Love I
Love my school. We're good on that. I do believe
this is the year that if they again, like if
you think about it, they win this one. They don't
have that back to back type of deal where it's like,
all right, you gotta go play Ohio State and then
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you got to turn back around and like in a
matter of a week or two, you gotta do it
again against Michigan. Like we don't play Michigan this year,
so you don't have to be limited to the idea
of we gotta win these two games or the season
was a bus It really comes down to this game.
And if you keep in mind, there's been two bye weeks,
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so you know, I had conversation, great conversation. I talked
to coach Franklin every week you go and disrupt YOUPSU
dot com and you can see my interviews with coach
James Franklin on Quite frank Quite Franklin. Yeah, and this
this week con week's conversation kind of consisted of talking about,
you know, the preparation for the opponent that they have
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coming out of the bye week, but also spending some
of the time preparing for games further down the line,
which I think the easy the easy translation of that
is they're preparing for Ohio State. And you listen to
Ohio State coaches and you know throughout the years, you
listen to Michigan coaches throughout the years, they'll tell you
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they're preparing for one another all season long. They don't
make any bones about it. Everything they're doing, they're preparing
for that game. And I kind of got that feeling
from coach Franklin, like we're preparing for this Ohio State game.
I think the matchup is in you know, it's it's
in balance, So I think that it's in favor of
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the home team. I think that that looking at what
the environment is going to be like, it won't be
a white out. The white out is the following week
against Washington, which that's a game that they're going to
have to be prepared for as well. But I think
the energy for this one is going to be a
white out energy because that impacts the game. For one,
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it impacts the opponent to have to try to play
in that type of environment. But two, I think everybody
knows that's involved in this, this game, this is the season,
this is it. Jonas like it. They win this game
and it kind of propels Penn State to a different
(29:26):
level of conversation, a different level of respect, you know,
just a different level altogether. So this plays a major
part in recruitment, it plays a major part in n IL,
It plays a major part in so many different ways
if they win this game. So there's a lot at
stake that's not for the players and the coaches to
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internalize it. That way. What I think is important for
Penn State, just me being a Penn State fan, I
think they have to embrace the fact that they're good
enough to beat Ohio State and not have any type
of mental lapses or mental thoughts of we've lost to
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them so much that you know, we're probably just going
to lose again. So I think Albert Breer had it right,
like I think we'll win the game. But I think
that I think he said something but ultimately is like, yeah,
we'll win the game. That's how Ohio State thinks, like
they think we're Ohio State. Their Penn State will win
the game.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
They were a three and a half point favorite yesterday
Ohio State was.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
On the road.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Now it's a three point favorite courtesy of DraftKings. So
I think Breers thought, you know what the extra half
point was? What will win by a field goal on
the road at Penn State.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
There you go, don't. I don't see it that way.
I think this is the year. I think this is
the year I get to to have some bragging rights
on Albert.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
So James Franklin's one to nine against Ohio State. Yeah,
yeah you And by the way, you know that as
much as we can say, well, we don't listen to
any of the talk on the outside, you know, he's
heard that stuff, like he's had to have heard that stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Oh, he'll admit to you that he hears it, and
I mean he understands it. He understands it. Like I
don't think that it's a situation where coach doesn't understand
the magnitude of the game. He understands it. But again,
you got to keep in mind and nine ten ten
meetings of you know, with with Ohio State, imagine what
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he's had to build from to get to the point
of even being in the conversation of being in a
situation where they can be competitive against the Ohio State
that man took over for Bill O'Brien who rolled out
on the program, like rolled out like I'm out of here,
like I'm not going to be able to get recruits
where or whatever the probation, whatever it was, the self
(31:52):
imposed probation. There was just a lot of dark moments
for Penn State when James Franklin took that that program over,
you know, and so to look at it from where
Penn State was to where they are now in us
to be in the national conversation, it's not a qualifier
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and it's not a you know, justifier for Franklin not
winning and having more success against those those programs. It's
just a matter of fact that this man has had
to take a program that was left in shambles and
vacated by a coach who wasn't willing to take on
that challenge and he's built this program back. He brings
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in elite, elite players, he brings in elite coaches. He's
got a great track record for coaches that come in
and then end up going being head coaches. I mean
Brent Prye at Virginia Tech. You got Manny Diaz at Duke.
Joe Morehead, who has was up until Coolda Nicki got there,
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was the best offensive coordinator that we had. If we
had still had Colda Nicki and Brent pry we probably
would have contended for we would have made it into
the playoff by now, that was when we won the
Big Ten. We beat Wisconsin. Then Joe Morehead gets pulled away,
and we hadn't been the same on offense since Kolderniki
has given us an amazing an amazing offense and how
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he does things. Coach Allen on the defense, he does
such an amazing job coming from being the head coach
at Indiana. So I think, all things given, this is
like kind of like the fork in the road, where
you know, Ohio State knows what they are and they
know what they bring to the table. It's a great
coaching staff. They got Chip Kelly as an addition to
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their staff calling the offenses. But I really believe that
matchup wise, this is going to be a tremendous game.
The environment will be phenomenal, and all who are there
will experience a really really competitive game and a fun game.
And those who are watching it are going to have
the same. They're going to be able to see and
experience a really really competitive, fun football game that's Big
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ten football. Yeah, it's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
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By the way, how about Joe Burrow coming out and
saying this game against the Raiders this weekend is they
must win for the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You think everyone is.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
You think like that, that's another team that's just been
underwhelming this year and that type of start at this point,
you know, I was thinking about this because it is
kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
What's you think it?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
So the Giants, the Raiders, and the Bengals made decisions
this offseason to not bring back their running back. So
Josh Jacobs, Joe Mixon, Saquon Barkley all.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
One elsewhere and they're all struggling.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
All those running backs are playing well in their new places,
and all of their former teams are struggling to run
the football.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
It's like struggling to win.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, Like and I look at that, and I go,
if that's not an indicator that, like, you know, that's
is a major component in the NFL. I know a
lot of people say, well, the position's dying out. No, man,
there's still value and you're seeing it in those places
or those guys are no longer there. And especially like
you saw Joe Mixon was running his ass off, Cincinnati
(36:14):
could desperately use his production on that side of the ball.
So good luck to Joe Burrow the Bengal.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, good luck
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Speaker 1 (01:52):
And uh, you know, listen all kinds of people getting
pulled over on my way in Oh let me drive right.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
And by the way for the the guy who was
in the motorcycle r ipang.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And man tang too soon, man soon.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So I don't know what the outcome was, you do,
I mean, you can guess, but yeah, not been there.
Not great for Uh, let's just put it this way.
A lot of people probably shouldn't have been driving last
night based on what we saw driving into work today.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know a lot of wild s when you drive
in at off hours. Man, tell you that I saw.
I saw the one guy I was pulled over. I
was moving slow enough and and the officer's vehicle had
the light shined on it so bright that you could
see it like it was like broad daylight. Dude was
(02:51):
an interesting looking character. Man like shots out to our
first responders. Man, because let me tell you something, there'd
be a lot of complaints about how things are done
and how they're handled at times. But I got to
tell you if you're on the other side of it
and you're a family member of a first responder and
and they're doing their jobs. Bruh, that that's gotta be
(03:12):
a very, very, very scary deal to have to just
do routine stops. Oh god, routine like deals in that profession.
I saw the way I do. Look, man, let me
tell you something. I couldn't be in law enforcement. I
couldn't do it because the way I do. Look the
moment I saw him, I'm going, oh, okay, ads on
(03:35):
the wheel.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
My guy, ads on the wheel. I have a couple
buddies who are cops, a couple that are firemen, and
some of the stuff they see on a daily basis
that's just routine, is wild, yeah, man. And like you'll
hear these stories and it's like oh, Like they'll be
asking like, hey, so, so what's it like?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's like, Oh, you know, we just you know, we
do radio like this and that, like what how are
things going with you guys?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Oh saw this, this and this? And you're thinking, Jesus,
I always thank our first responders, man, every time I
see them, you know, I shake, Like when I go
to the Penn State Games, I shake, I shake their hands, man, like,
just thanking for their service. You know, I'm big on
raising money for them, raising money for our volunteers. Absolutely.
(04:22):
Did you know that all? Pretty much every fire department
in Pennsylvania, for I believe the most part, they're all volunteers. Yeah,
they're volunteering to save your life. If something pops off,
like if you need to be saved or you know,
you need to hit nine one, one emergency vehicle shows up.
(04:45):
Those are volunteers that are the firemen. So anyways, that's
just that's what I thought of this morning because I
saw a lot of emergency vehicles this morning driving into work.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Just get an uber or get a lift, dummies, all right,
it's not it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know, pay a little cash, get what is it,
twenty bucks for a ride? That's better than That's on
where you're coming from, okay, is it depends on where
you're coming from. They'll get you. They'll get you if
you coming like say you did something downtown or did
something in like you know, Santa Monica, or did something
and like you know, I don't know, like one of
(05:20):
the beach cities and you're going back out to the Inland.
It's pricey. You know what a dui is, that's pricey. Yeah,
you know what. You know, rend or death, you know
what that motorcycle and you know what the cost of
that one is? Good god man, Yeah, it's uh, it's
(05:40):
I'm with you there, I'm with you. Figure it out.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
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The way tire buying should be. All right.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So, speaking of messes, Oh no, look, I told you guys,
your people from Momuth. Let me tell you how annoy
home a wide earth. I told you guys that if
the Bears could have played a game and gone to
Arizona and played the Cardinals on Monday or Tuesday, they
would have because they need to rid themselves of whatever
(06:28):
the hell that vomiting, defecating clown show was at the
end of that game against the Washington commanders, they need
to rid themselves of that, get that stench off them,
and go play another game and try and win another game,
just to get as far away from that experience.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It went from such a feel good situation to the
triumphant return of Caleb Williams back to the district where
he's from. And by the way, kid waves in that
fourth quarter game winning drive to take the league.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Like they stroke gold all game. And then the fourth
quarter came around and he was dealing like he had
no time virtually, like he missed some throws obviously, but
they couldn't keep him up right. He was scrambling for
his life. And then the fourth quarter came around and
it was like, okay, now it's about talent and willing
my team to win. And that guy was making play
after play after play had him in line to win
(07:19):
a game.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
They had the game one. Yeah, like the game was one.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And so now tail of two teams, Washington's like, all right,
we're good to go. We're sitting at what six and two?
The Bears are sitting at four and three. They could
have both been sitting at five and two or whatever
it was, or five and three, and so you look
at the situation, or the Bears would have gone to
five and two. Now they're sitting at four and three,
(07:45):
and so you look at the situation, you go, all right,
So what exactly happened not just on that play but
throughout the course of the game. And one of the
moments that people are still scratching their heads at is
the Bears had a third goal and got down twelve
decent and went full back dive to a guy by
(08:06):
the name of Doug Kramer, who's an offensive lineman who
had never rushed the football in his entire career, and
of course there was a fumble and Washington recovered the defense.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh my god, your boy ain't here to get you
here to get you up top on up top on
that one. And so they did you know the fridge
he successfully was.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Of course, yeah, but he hates fridge And so you're
you're trying to recreate it in that spot. You're thinking, like,
why the play call and they've been you know, the
offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron defended the play go, well, it
just didn't work out clearly, and then Matt Eberflus, kind
of the head coach, defended the play.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Call well, DJ Moore was openly.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Critical of the play call, and apparently Matt Eberflus and
him had a conversation about it, and DJ Moore got,
you know, listen, we're all clear here. I get what
you're putting down. I don't feel any regret about it.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
We all talked about it, and me and Fluce talked
about it with the captains and just guys, stay in
the house next time. I'm not gonna say sorry for
what I said, but at the same time, it is, uh,
it should have just stayed in the house.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But I said what I.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Said, that's a oh there you go. Yeah, you know
what that is. Though, that's a it was a terrible idea,
and I'm sorry. We can have this conversation with the
coach all we want, but that's a terrible idea. And
then you get these other reports that come out that
at the start of the year, you know how like
you were an offensive coordinator before, Like you guys had
(09:38):
like scripted plays.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
To start off with you, right, Like that's everybody does
that go off the script? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You know who didn't embarrass They're like, well, we had
like plays that we're kind of gotta go to. But
you know, not exactly a script. And then finally DJ
Moore and some others got with the coaching staff and
we're like, hey, can we get on script? Yeah, can
we like know what we're doing? And like it's just like,
(10:05):
but you've got now. So now, this is multiple times
through the first two months of the season that they're
openly questioning the coaching staff play calling decisions, strategies, Like
Caleb Williams like lost in the shuffle of that Hail
Mary was he like, you can see Caleb Williams pulling
(10:27):
Matt Eberflus off the field because Matt Eberflus had had
walked onto the field and they asked Caleb Williams about
it and they're like, yeah, so what was going on there?
He's like, well, I didn't want to get penalized and
give them more free yardage because we already did that
to play before when we didn't do anything about that
little quick out that Terry McLaurin ran.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
And so like this is over and over and over again.
Well far two months in, If this is happening this much,
what are we talking about here? Like, there's no way
that there's that there's common in the coaching staff, if
the players feel like they've got enough power and enough
say so to be like no, no, no, no no. If
this is what's coming to the surface, I can't imagine what.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's like behind the scenes there. Well, what's interesting is
is that we live in a day and age where
the athlete is unafraid. You know, these used to be
taboo like no nos. If you ever heard anything come
from a player about the team, about the coach, anything internal,
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chances were they would get cut. And if it was
a big name guy, it would create a whole lot
of static within the team, within the team ranks. And
maybe that's still how it is. I don't know. It
just seems as though that there is more of a
freeness and I think it's because of technology. I think
(11:55):
it's because of social media. I think it's because of
where the priorities of how we communicate and the new
ways of how we connect and communicate to our fan bases.
I think that plays a large part of it. Traditional
media is not traditional media so much anymore. It's not
the main sources of the way you kind of consume
(12:18):
your information, and so athletes have become more Maybe it's
entitled with how they approach things and how they say
things and how they do things. And I don't know
that you can create an environment where the repercussions of
it are are are strong enough because most of the
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people that are doing this are big name players. So
you can't. You can't, Well, how are you going to
really adjust and adapt how the player is evolving with
how they communicate with what's going on. It's it's just
very difficult. Like you go from a day and age
where if you said something, it now goes to the
(13:03):
local media. Right, Generally it didn't go to the national
media until it was you got an os like, oh
did that really happen? Do you really say that? From
the local media? Right? And then now it comes out
the way that it's it's presented by local media, whether
it's a writer for the for the local paper or
whether it is a reporter for the local you know,
(13:26):
television reports. That's like you're at the mercy of what
those reporters report, and that's how you're going to be portrayed.
So if he said something like that, that's going to
be brought up to the coach before it even generally
hits the public for consumption. There's going to be a
(13:48):
conversation da da da. They're still going to release it,
but they're going to release it with the spin of
what they're they're going to release the story on on
how they're reporting it. Now, it's just it's all an uncut,
Like I'll go to my social media, I'll talk about
it on my live I'll know filter. There's no filter, bro,
(14:08):
And it's totally changed the way that that the fan
is able to to consume the information. It's totally changed
how the athlete does it. So I'm not really sure
how that that works. Like openly criticizing your coaches, openly
criticizing your team. Oh, like Aaron Rodgers does it every week.
He does it every week. I mean, whether he's criticizing
(14:31):
himself include it. He does it every single week.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Like, here's what I'm curious about is if you've got
players who are captains, leaders that are publicly giving the
side eye to the coaching staff that coach is done,
and then being told by the coach, hey, we need
to keep that in house, and then doubling down and.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I met what I said, like, what the hell? What
was the conversation like behind that coach Bruh, That coach
is on He's on the clock. That's what I'm saying.
When you lose, when you lose a locker room, you're
on the clock. Because how how do you coach if
you don't have any more control over your locker room
than that where players fell the freedom and they feel
(15:20):
the comfort and the ease of being able to say
what they feel as it applies to something that could
be derogatory towards your team, towards your you as a coach,
you don't And that's a leader saying it. You don't
have the locker room any That's what I'm saying. And
it's not You're not in a good position.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
And if you ever like followed DJ Moore's career, he's
not one of these guys that normally like complains about
anything or let go.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It probably doesn't. It probably doesn't need to be viewed
as a malicious way of how he approached it. He
just said what he felt. He just said what he felt.
I mean, we saw that take place with Seattle when
they didn't give Marshaan Lynch the ball, right, I mean,
and they try to throw it and end up losing
the Super Bowl. You'll see guys have criticisms. Sometimes it's malicious,
(16:08):
sometimes it's not. In this case, I don't you know,
I don't know. I don't know how he feels about
you know, his coach, his coaching staff, his offensive coordinator.
As a head coach. I don't know how how more
feels about him. But I do know when you lose
a game like that, you're gonna feel the pressure. Because
(16:28):
it's a large market team, You're going to feel the
pressure of everything that took place, and you're also going
to have to navigate the feelings of what that looks
like going into the next game and for and I
mean having a bye week doesn't help, as you mentioned.
But with that being said, either you're pulling together to
try to go in the right direction to win games,
or you're pulling further apart, and it's like more self preservation.
(16:52):
You never want as a coach, you never want a
team to go into self preservation mode because now that's
it's like, if you think about I said this earlier,
like you got to get all these guys going in
the right direction. It's like a school of fish. Right.
If you're running a good a good program and you're
going in the right direction. You have all the fish
(17:13):
in the school going in the same direction. They're going
same place, same place, same place. Like you see orca
wells going into their pods going in the same direction.
You see dolphins going in the same direction. But if
they start going in all kinds of different directions and
there's no type of order or anything like that, it's
just all out of whack and you don't get the
(17:36):
same results. And that's that to me, it's it's like
the beginning of the end. If your school of fish
ain't going in the same direction, they start going to
every which direction, it's the beginning of the end of
your tenure as the head coach there.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It was like, man like they're cruising, like like they're
in a plane and they're just cruising and everything's fine,
and then.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
All of a sudden, curbulence just hit them bad.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
A flock of birds just flew into one of the engines,
like oh boy, we're going down. Oh boy, And you
realize Soley's not flying the play and you're like, yeah,
we don't know how this is going to turn out.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We've lost ingent one, We've lost ingin one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
That like that play that one play in that game
could be the tipping point for for the end of
the road there.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It could have been a heartbreaking play, you know, but
it was so many like the like you said, the
offensive lineman fumbling bad, the dude sitting there heckling the
fans and Keith King while the play goes, and then
he's the one that tips the ball into the receiver's
hand to win the game. Bad. It's just the manner,
(18:41):
the style points of which they went out and lost
that game is what makes it so easy to jump
on and make it bad. So they got to win, man,
because if they lose, You're right, you know those voices
beginning to get a little, a little louder. Yeah, not great.
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Speaker 4 (19:28):
By the way, Eddie some candy and therefore you I
brought in. Uh, we got one tricker tread and I said,
all right, so.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
The rest one.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
That's it the entire time. And this kid had a
pillowcase that looked like it was splitting at the seams.
I don't know where he went, but he had just
been like ransacking everybody's place.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
And he was dressed as the Purge. Oh God, So
he's walking around in this costume, but he's got this
giant pillowcase full of candy. I was like, hey, man,
take whatever you want. You're the only one we've gotten
so far. And so he helped himself.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
But there is your son old enough to partake in
trigger treating. We're waiting until he gets a little older
so he can kind of pick and choose. Uh, well,
do you let you? Do you like those those parents
who carry their kid around and then they probably eat
the candy for themselves, right.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Like No, I mean, he'll he'll go do his, but
I think he'll get so excited that like, I don't
think he'll cut anybody off. But I'm not putting it
above him that maybe there's a little bit of violence
if he feels like somebody has stepped in front of him.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I thought this was a conversation of when he'd be
old enough to be shown how to suck blood on
Wow on Halloween. Man, Huh, he's noxicon right. He's a
young vampire. Ain't that pale? He's a young vampire though,
you know he's not that fail he falls on the
where Wolf's set.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, but Eddie, there's a I don't know how you
feel about Baby Ruth, Nestley, Crunch, butter Fingers or Hunter Graham,
but they're all over there in.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
That little bucket. If I'll take a look, if there's
anything left, because Lee and Loraina have got a menu
for the ages going on at four in the morning
right now. Much more trustable source too, by the way,
you know where it came from, Eddie. All right, thank you,
Safer for you. You know I care about you. You
know what I mean, four in the morning and Mexican food.
(21:25):
I I like how you're surprised by that. I gotta
literally you didn't catch what I hit or hit Addie with.
You didn't catch that inside deal, that little inside dip,
you know when they was all up in the studio
getting their grub on the other night. Oh oh yeah,
it's a lot safer. Yeah, a much much more trusted source,
(21:45):
you know. I mean, I know Loraina is good. She
was good. You know what I mean the rest of
you know, for.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
In the morning Mexican Foodele, Yeah, it's still very good.
It's a little coagulated, but it's good.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Why are you so excited about it, Lee, I'm excited
about it. It's it's delicious. It's like, right there in
front of you, you're eating it's better than candy. How
does it smell? Mix it with smells? Well, it was
my food, LeVar. I'm gonna say it smells pretty darn good.
She was done.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
I didn't want her, you know, I didn't want leftovers
to go to go bad. That's what I'm here for,
all right. Wow, Man, like deconstructed nachos.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That puts it in perspective for me. I mean, it
just continues to put it in more perspective, like that's
all you want to know?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Why when you want to know why, uh fries are
better as a I don't know how you would put
it like, nacho fries are better than nacho chips because
you can use a fork to eat them.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That's a good that's a lot better good take, But
you have to eat them right away. There's absolutely zero
way I would eat cold fries or a soggy sat
for a while thing of nacho. Oh yeah, you got
to eat it right away. You can't mess. That's just
fresh is better. Yeah, well these chips are completely fresh.
(23:11):
They're in their own bag. So oh they're in their
own bag. Yeah, you're not nachos.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Then that's what I said, deconstructed, So everything's separate and
you can scoop it and get your whole notcho.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
A good move. Okay, then that's you don't get soggy.
That's more sensible. Okay. I don't judge you as badly
as I was like five ten seconds ago. I appreciate that,
because yeah I would. I would understand if you guys
deconstructed my feelings for you. And the guacamole is still green, yes,
that is like it didn't hit the dark ground.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
If it gets brown or something, it shows it's old
and aged. Can I can I give you guys a
little little tip, little pro tip from from somebody who's
married to a Mexican woman. Yes, so juice in the seat. No,
just keep the seed in. Yep.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So, if you're making guac, always take one of the seeds,
put it inside, and that way, for whatever reason, it
doesn't go brown because the seed keeps it fresh.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Wait, you put it the seed which is mixed. It's
like it's like the parent of the guak. Yeah, it
like keeps it in line. Like you will not you
will not turn a different color. Blew my mind first
time I saw it. You are not allowed to change colors.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
It's because the nut is brown, so the guacamole doesn't
want to turn into this.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Again. I mean, I'm moving on. What was the next time?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I think there's two different conversations happening here.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Great weekend in college football.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Moving on, If anybody out there's making guac over the week,
just leave the seed inside the guawk, one of the
seeds from the avocado, that big old brown nut.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, that big one. Leave it on in there by
the way.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
We're gonna spread them coming up here in about fifteen
minutes from now, or picks against the spread less than
fifteen minutes from now. Week nine in the NFL that
will be yours. But it is a big weekend in
the world of college football. A lot of under the radar,
sneaky good games going on in college football, but one
in particular that's got the interest of this show. Brady
(25:14):
Quinn will be there for big noon kickoff, but there
is one man who will be there to represent his
alma mater. It's a place bar it is trying it there,
it is. Yeah, that's the right one.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Nice job.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So Penn State, Ohio State, that is the place to
be new in Eastern time, nine o'clock Pacific there in
Happy Valley.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's going down.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
So we were there obviously for the Illinois game, which
was a night time and well, yeah, the atmosphere already
before the game had started was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, what the hell is it going to be like.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Against Ohio State in this match up, a top five
matchup between these two teams with so much on the line.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I mean, that's just all my conversations I've had during
the week. It's going to be tight brouh because there's
so many people are going to be there. Yeah, the
energy is going to be crazy, the security is going
to be crazy, The just everything, you know, I think
I think the amount of energy surrounding this game this
(26:25):
year is honestly based upon just the idea that I
believe everybody seems to feel like we can win this one,
like this could be the year. And if this is
the year that they indeed, you know, kind of okay,
that's that's good. We're good on that. We're good on
(26:47):
We're good on the song I appreciate, I Love I
Love my school. We're good on that. I do believe
this is the year that if they again, like if
you think about it, they win this one. They don't
have that back to back type of deal where it's like,
all right, you gotta go play Ohio State and then
(27:07):
you got to turn back around and like in a
matter of a week or two, you gotta do it
again against Michigan. Like we don't play Michigan this year,
so you don't have to be limited to the idea
of we gotta win these two games or the season
was a bus It really comes down to this game.
And if you keep in mind, there's been two bye weeks,
(27:32):
so you know, I had conversation, great conversation. I talked
to coach Franklin every week you go and disrupt YOUPSU
dot com and you can see my interviews with coach
James Franklin on Quite frank Quite Franklin. Yeah, and this
this week con week's conversation kind of consisted of talking about,
you know, the preparation for the opponent that they have
(27:56):
coming out of the bye week, but also spending some
of the time preparing for games further down the line,
which I think the easy the easy translation of that
is they're preparing for Ohio State. And you listen to
Ohio State coaches and you know throughout the years, you
listen to Michigan coaches throughout the years, they'll tell you
(28:18):
they're preparing for one another all season long. They don't
make any bones about it. Everything they're doing, they're preparing
for that game. And I kind of got that feeling
from coach Franklin, like we're preparing for this Ohio State game.
I think the matchup is in you know, it's it's
in balance, So I think that it's in favor of
(28:39):
the home team. I think that that looking at what
the environment is going to be like, it won't be
a white out. The white out is the following week
against Washington, which that's a game that they're going to
have to be prepared for as well. But I think
the energy for this one is going to be a
white out energy because that impacts the game. For one,
(29:03):
it impacts the opponent to have to try to play
in that type of environment. But two, I think everybody
knows that's involved in this, this game, this is the season,
this is it. Jonas like it. They win this game
and it kind of propels Penn State to a different
(29:26):
level of conversation, a different level of respect, you know,
just a different level altogether. So this plays a major
part in recruitment, it plays a major part in n IL,
It plays a major part in so many different ways
if they win this game. So there's a lot at
stake that's not for the players and the coaches to
(29:49):
internalize it. That way. What I think is important for
Penn State, just me being a Penn State fan, I
think they have to embrace the fact that they're good
enough to beat Ohio State and not have any type
of mental lapses or mental thoughts of we've lost to
(30:10):
them so much that you know, we're probably just going
to lose again. So I think Albert Breer had it right,
like I think we'll win the game. But I think
that I think he said something but ultimately is like, yeah,
we'll win the game. That's how Ohio State thinks, like
they think we're Ohio State. Their Penn State will win
the game.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
They were a three and a half point favorite yesterday
Ohio State was.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
On the road.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Now it's a three point favorite courtesy of DraftKings. So
I think Breers thought, you know what the extra half
point was? What will win by a field goal on
the road at Penn State.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
There you go, don't. I don't see it that way.
I think this is the year. I think this is
the year I get to to have some bragging rights
on Albert.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
So James Franklin's one to nine against Ohio State. Yeah,
yeah you And by the way, you know that as
much as we can say, well, we don't listen to
any of the talk on the outside, you know, he's
heard that stuff, like he's had to have heard that stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Oh, he'll admit to you that he hears it, and
I mean he understands it. He understands it. Like I
don't think that it's a situation where coach doesn't understand
the magnitude of the game. He understands it. But again,
you got to keep in mind and nine ten ten
meetings of you know, with with Ohio State, imagine what
(31:29):
he's had to build from to get to the point
of even being in the conversation of being in a
situation where they can be competitive against the Ohio State
that man took over for Bill O'Brien who rolled out
on the program, like rolled out like I'm out of here,
like I'm not going to be able to get recruits
where or whatever the probation, whatever it was, the self
(31:52):
imposed probation. There was just a lot of dark moments
for Penn State when James Franklin took that that program over,
you know, and so to look at it from where
Penn State was to where they are now in us
to be in the national conversation, it's not a qualifier
(32:13):
and it's not a you know, justifier for Franklin not
winning and having more success against those those programs. It's
just a matter of fact that this man has had
to take a program that was left in shambles and
vacated by a coach who wasn't willing to take on
that challenge and he's built this program back. He brings
(32:33):
in elite, elite players, he brings in elite coaches. He's
got a great track record for coaches that come in
and then end up going being head coaches. I mean
Brent Prye at Virginia Tech. You got Manny Diaz at Duke.
Joe Morehead, who has was up until Coolda Nicki got there,
(32:56):
was the best offensive coordinator that we had. If we
had still had Colda Nicki and Brent pry we probably
would have contended for we would have made it into
the playoff by now, that was when we won the
Big Ten. We beat Wisconsin. Then Joe Morehead gets pulled away,
and we hadn't been the same on offense since Kolderniki
has given us an amazing an amazing offense and how
(33:21):
he does things. Coach Allen on the defense, he does
such an amazing job coming from being the head coach
at Indiana. So I think, all things given, this is
like kind of like the fork in the road, where
you know, Ohio State knows what they are and they
know what they bring to the table. It's a great
coaching staff. They got Chip Kelly as an addition to
(33:41):
their staff calling the offenses. But I really believe that
matchup wise, this is going to be a tremendous game.
The environment will be phenomenal, and all who are there
will experience a really really competitive game and a fun game.
And those who are watching it are going to have
the same. They're going to be able to see and
experience a really really competitive, fun football game that's Big
(34:03):
ten football. Yeah, it's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio
coming up next here, we are going to have our
picks against the spread for Week nine in the NFL
right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. So we are
going to have our picks against the spread. We're going
to do it top the next hour here. Want to
make sure we've got enough time here to kind of
break all this down. I'm on a tear when it
comes to our picks against the spread. So we've got
to give it its proper time and place. That'll be
yours here again about ten minutes from now. A reminder
(34:46):
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Speaker 1 (34:57):
Again.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Just search two Pros wherever you get your podcast. You'll
see today's show posted right after we get off the air.
By the way, how about Joe Burrow coming out and
saying this game against the Raiders this weekend is they
must win for the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You think everyone is.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
You think like that, that's another team that's just been
underwhelming this year and that type of start at this point,
you know, I was thinking about this because it is
kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
What's you think it?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
So the Giants, the Raiders, and the Bengals made decisions
this offseason to not bring back their running back. So
Josh Jacobs, Joe Mixon, Saquon Barkley all.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
One elsewhere and they're all struggling.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
All those running backs are playing well in their new places,
and all of their former teams are struggling to run
the football.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
It's like struggling to win.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, Like and I look at that, and I go,
if that's not an indicator that, like, you know, that's
is a major component in the NFL. I know a
lot of people say, well, the position's dying out. No, man,
there's still value and you're seeing it in those places
or those guys are no longer there. And especially like
you saw Joe Mixon was running his ass off, Cincinnati
(36:14):
could desperately use his production on that side of the ball.
So good luck to Joe Burrow the Bengal.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, good luck
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