November 11, 2024 • 35 mins
The Chiefs continue to find ways to win. Utah AD Mark Mark Harlan complains about officiating. Shedeur Sanders looks like the clear number 1 pick in next year’s draft. Plus, the FSR IR and much more!.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I have a serious
question here are the Chiefs good?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Wow? Is that a serious question?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Because I just don't know that I look at the
chief season thus far and I go, man, that was impressive.
But it's almost as if they're just getting through it.
And then you get to the postseason and Patrick Mahomes
is gonna make plays and they're gonna go to the
Super Bowl again and probably win it. Like it just
I don't know that you look at them and go,
that was impressive. That was impressive. That was impressive. Yet
(01:10):
they're sitting here and they're undefeated at this point in
the season.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Which we've seen that happen in years past, and people
called it fool's gold.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I always think back to the Steelers, you know, but
they make it do now wins. I think they're twelve
and oh twelve and oh yeah, and people are like
fools gold, They're fools gold. Like listen, they didn't have
a Patrick Mahomes. I know that's probably where this is
going to all go. But you know, when you have
him as as a player, that's going to be your differentiator.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But I'm also say.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Spags, Spags is quietly, maybe not quietly, but has certainly
been outside of Patrick Mahomes, He's probably got to be
the most valuable piece of the puzzle for this Kansas
City Chiefs team. Like, that's that's what I would lean
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on the fact that, yeah, they're winning close games and
it's not crazy impressive in terms of the offensive output,
but it is Patrick Mahomes and they do have Spags
setting up the defensive play calls and and the game
plans going into the week. And I think those two
pieces put together, obviously with Andy Reid, uh that's just
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seemingly the standard right now of what being able to
be successful at the level that they're being successful at
that that seems to be the standard.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I mean, that's a scary proposition. If this team is
still winning games and the offense just hasn't looked all
that hot throughout the course of the season. I know,
there's like moving part and moving pieces and moving parts.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
There and all that.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
It just feels like they just kind of some They're
kind of like the Lions, Like it feels like somehow,
some way they're going to figure out a way. Although
Detroit's looked impressive in games, and I just don't know they.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Cantroyay physical Detroit.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
They have attitude, you know, Kansas City, They're not like
a attitude team, like, Oh they're going to come in,
They're batter than you are. They're going to beat the
hell out of you. They just beat you. Yeah, they
just beat you. I think they'll drop a couple of
games at some point. I mean, it feels like they're
getting to that point right kind of playing with fire.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Do you think they're going to drop the game against
Buffalo this week?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Though?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
That would be one that you drop if you dropped one,
I mean Buffalo, I mean Josh Allen did even necessarily
throw the ball. Well yesterday another game, if you watched
it was like neither played Gray Flacco did neither. That
being said, if there was a game, that would be
the game that you think that they could potentially stumble.
A side note, is Lee alive? And I know we
(03:46):
talked to him last segment. It did not sound like
he was doing very well. I didn't want to take
up his segment, take up that time. But Lee, are
you okay?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm doing perfectly fine.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
How was your Sunday?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Sunday? Sunday was good?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yesterday?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
That was where we've we've transitioned into Monday night and Monday.
I remember we talked about Veterans Day today and I
salute all those.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That was a little over four hours ago Pacific time.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah. No, yes, Uh, Sunday was good. Sunday was what?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Did you watch the games recovered? Could I get some
game show music?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
As it possible? Is it possibly get some game show music?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Lorna?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
It's now time, Well we play Lee? When did you
start drinking? When I stop? When did you start? We'll
get to that, Lee.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Does birth count?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Lee? When did you start on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
When did I start on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yesterday? Lee?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes, Monday?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yesterday was Sunday. You clearly got after it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, it's would wine get u is mixed in? Is
the problem?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Okay, Lee? Do we have a start time?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, Friday at six.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Okay, so Friday at six am you started and you
didn't didn't stop.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Till well, truth last night? Last night? What's last night?
What time? Give us a time before the end of
the game. So eight o'clock, two.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Minutes left for the fourth I mean yeahday from Friday.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
So all right, let me ask you that. How how
bad was Saturday? Because Saturday sandwiched in between there. If
you started Friday, Saturday had to be your most valient day,
most active day of Friday was probably the worst. Saturday
was a little bit of a recovery day. You started
at six am on Friday.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
No, I'm kidding, No, you're not. Oh sorry, six fifteen. Yeah,
they had to get home first.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, you got home that you started to get after it,
and you didn't stop until last night.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
What two minutes left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Like something like that? Yeah, similar, yeah something. Uh, Yeah, Saturday,
it was a little bit of a recovery. I needed
a bloody marry, a little hair of the dog.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And then you just kept drinking again.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, a little Saturday, nap oh.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Over over under forty drinks on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Lee forty?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Lee under? You usually do?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
You started started Friday at six fifteen am and you finished.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Okay, But that's not that hard to get.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'm trying to think, what do you want from me?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I had to take ton of the airport, like like
it's like it's required duty.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I got to the airport. Of course, I got a drink.
What am I? Just?
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Where the hell is Todd going Vegas? What's he going
to Vegas for?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
He was Uh, he had a little rendezvous with oh yeah,
with a what he had a good time.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
With a what with a lady? Hold on?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Does she live there?
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Like?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Why couldn't she just come to LUs?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
She used to live in l A.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
She had a business conference in a business you know
how Todd's.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Cold.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
You imagine the woman that's like, I got a business conference.
Let me I need a piece of ass, Like Todd's
the side piece, right, She's she's up there giving a
presentation and then fine, fine closed door.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
She's with Todd.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
She's get it looks like Lee got jumped like there
in some hotel street them.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Hooking up while while he's seeing Kings of Leon. Your
sex is O five.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Oh my gosh, imagine the uh you know, the light
light somebody the lie that you just told me, somebody,
somebody like me.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I got. Why did you go with Todd? You should
have got on the plane with him, Dude.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I thought about it. I was like, why don't we
just drive out there, let's go.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, that probably wouldn't have made sense given the condition
you were in.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Well, I was finding all right.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
So I don't know, bro, what was the longest window
you were sober for this weekend?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
There was no window down, not like you said you
had to have a little recovery time.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Oh yeah, I guess I nat. I slept a good
amount on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But you were still drunk in your sleep. How do
you sleep when you're like, what is being drunk in sleep?
Can't you can't get quality sleep? I slept, I got
eight hours. I got eight hours sleep Friday and Saturday. Look,
and I don't know the last time I got eight
hours sleep at any point in the last year.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm just I'm telling.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You, many hardworking lunch pale.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You know what Sleep's underrated? You know it really is underrated.
And Lee, I recommend it in the court. Yeah, I mean,
but you know, hard to sleep with the bottle in
your hands. You know, it feels like it's going to
spill onto the ground and lee.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You never look at the bottle and be like, I
ain't drinking this ish?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Do you ever?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Do you ever look out a beer and you be like,
it just doesn't taste that good? Like I I picked
up a mick Ulture yesterday in the sweet and I
started trying to drink, and I was like, I put
it down. I was like, just isn't that good to
me right now? I know it doesn't taste that good,
but it doesn't taste that good.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
You had that it doesn't have a lot of flavor.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Doesn't know No, it did not know it was warm.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It is what you were saying. It wasn't warm. I
just didn't like the way it tasted to me yesterday.
I put it down.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Do you put it down? Or do you it does
take kind of like nothing. Do you put it down?
Or do you just say I don't really like the
way it tastes, but you continue to drink it because
you're not going to waste it?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Truth?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Uh No, I throw away plenty of Yeah, I don't.
I don't finish beers all the time?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, whether empty?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Have you ever had a drink that you didn't drink
because you didn't like it? Or do you take it
down even though you didn't like it?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Water? Actually? Yeah, Like, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I feel like there are things missing from this story
over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
There is there. It does feel like.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
There's just something. There's like a window of time that's
not being accounted for. Here did you time travel?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Like? Did you did you time travel to somewhere else? Like?
Did you like did you stay one place?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Where did you end up? Leave? I wound up? I can't.
I don't know how much I could share about this.
I wound up in Hollywood. Uh? Oh, and you live
where I lived in the valley. But how far away
from Hollywood? Are you? Not far? Walking distance? Like one
stop on the train.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
One stop on the train. So you need transportation? I yeah,
so you transport it to Hollywood? Yes, Okay, go ahead,
keep going.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
No, I found myself in a little Uh found yourself?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
What time was that?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
What time was that from the time that you knew
you were where you were at, where you started from?
What time was it that you found yourself? And then
where did you find yourself?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Ten pm to three am? Okay, okay, where'd you find yourself? Reasonable?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, a little poker match. You found yourself in a
poker match. That was when you came back to yourself.
I was I was there the whole time. What are
you talking?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You were there? Yeah? How did you find yourself there? Then?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
I how did I find myself there? I was invited?
Uh huh, and I wound up there.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It was an ad on Craigslist and they were looking
for somebody to play poker, and it just.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Happened to it.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I said.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
They had drinks there, like in a small plant. He
was like, I'm there. Where got alcohol? That was a
deciding factor. Yeah, they're like free booze. I was like,
all right, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Oh man, did you win?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
I was up for a little bit, lost on uh
ace King suited, always lose on ace Kin suited.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh man, Well, I still feel like there.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
There's part of this weekend that tell me what you
I think that I saw a picture of Lee's other neighbor,
who is so much cooler than Todd.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I would tell Todd.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
To go screw off. If I were you, this guy
John has got I mean a sweet set of guitars,
like on the wall, like super cool guy.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's his neighbor like that.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That's the type of guy to where you're gonna hang
out with, Like, you know, things get a little bit
dicey late, Like I would trust you with John Todd,
not so much.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'm out on Todd. I'm more of a kN guy now. Yeah,
John's cool, many gifted musician.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Does he have the hair and the look like hair,
long hair?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You know? I don't understand. How do you comfortable couch?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
How do you have a set group of dudes that
you hang out with that look the same, but that
does not fit the profile of what you date?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
How does that work? That's a good question. I don't know.
It's very it's very opposite ends of the spectrum. Lee,
how's that work? I'm a renaissance man. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I get it rid.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, it gets around. It's rock and roll Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Okay, Welle, what the hell does that mean?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
All right? Rock and roll? Well, I mean you rocking
and rolling Hollywood. But you like.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
We're all just trying to figure out life a little bit.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I know, you're trying to figure it out too, But
we're all trying to figure it out together, and you're
not giving us all the information we need.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So Lee, they clearly know something that you're not divulging.
Can can you please talk about it?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Please? I've given you everything I got. I don't know, man,
you know what the raiders on the uh Google doctus?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Oh wait, hold on, hold on. I used to be
I used to be on Lee's side of this. I
think I understand about you know, where the other person
in the relationship is coming from, because if this is
the explanation that he gets when he gets home, it's like, Okay,
I can understand the frustration now. Dang, I mean, am
I wrong? Like there's a there's always like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Man, Like I I kind.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Of don't remember for about eight hours.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's like, Okay, I found myself Like he didn't find
himself like in a corner. He found himself in a
poker match. Oh man, Like that's like you're like the
real like quantum leap type dude.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Man, you know, cooked, cooked the steak, went to a
poker match. Good times? Yeah? Well listen, uh.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Is John is John your neighbor, the one Lee John
is talking about Lee? Yes, okay, is John Mary dating?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
What's the uh uh yeah yeah his girlfriend? Uh, Nicole's
very nice lady. Yeah, I can tell you mayby chicken nugt. Well,
I mean the mill looks good.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, definitely does. Well.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
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Speaker 2 (16:49):
But uh, you know, apparently, uh not the.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Most ideal weekend for people in the world of college football.
Now we can focus on the teams that lost near
the top, like Miami or Georgia. You know, feels like
maybe the Big twelve's got some issues.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I'll tell you what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Carson Beck has not played well the past two games,
and that's It's significant because coming into this season, Shador
Sanders Carson.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Beck reviewed as the top two quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
For next year's NFL draft, and I would say Shador
Sanders has solidified himself as the first quarterback that's gonna
be taken in next year's draft. Even as good as
cam Ward has played, I think there will be some
concerns about his adaptability from what he's doing in college
to an NFL offense. And you know, his size, stature,
those sorts of things. These are just things that I'm
told talking to NFL scouts who are at these games
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or some guys who I know who are decision makers
in the industry. But you know, Beck's taken a lot
of the blame because interceptions always go on the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
The reality is the offensive line play has been poor.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I've said before, all their pass catchers, their wide receivers,
tight ends have done an awful job at times getting
hands on footballs and catching it or just knocking it
down to the ground instead, they're almost making it easier
on the defense deflecting it back up. But Georgia is
not the Georgia we saw the previous three years, and
that has become very apparent. But the bigger issue I
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think in college football right now, at least in one conference,
is the Big Twelve officiating. That's the biggest I guess
frustration for a lot of fans out there.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
So Mark Harlan, who you know is the ad for Utah,
he also had a little bit of an issue with
the officiating apparently. You know, there was a holding call
that continue to drive. I'm not going to say that
that led to BYU winning that game. Fantastic game, by
the way.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
By the way, that was the proper call. Anyone who
watched the play and you sell some of the different angles.
It was defensive holding. I know, it's unfortunate because it
came up on fourth down. If you get that stop,
you get off the field, you win if you're a
Utah fan. But I mean, that wasn't the most egregious
call there was. There was more earlier in the game
that were egregious. If you're a Utah fan, you would
have frustrated about it, but that was not the worst
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call of the game. And by the way, you still
had an entire drive. You get a stop and you
could at that point agreed.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
So Mark Harlan, the athletic director for Utah, spoke following
the game and had this to say.
Speaker 9 (19:18):
I've been an athletic director for twelve years.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
This game was absolutely stolen from us. We were excited
about being the Big twelve.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
But tonight I am not We won this game. Someone
else stole it from us. Very disappointed. I will talk
to the commissioner. This was not fair to our team.
I'm disgusted by the professionalism of the officiating crew tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
And that cost him forty thousand dollars. So he got
fined forty grand for those comments following the game.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I still don't understand that the premise of finding somebody
who's giving their honest opinion, I don't get it, Like
I mean, I get it, but I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like what does it matter like to me?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It only furthers that it's a bad look if you're
getting fined for talking about it, whether college weather pro
like oh, I didn't like the way that this game
was called, or I felt like the difference in the
game was the way that the game was handled bat
of referees, this, that and the other.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Why do you get.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Fined if he had said something along the lines of,
you know, the officials were on the take or they
were like, I can understand that, but I also agree,
I don't know that some of these fines are necessary,
Like there's nothing wrong with venting following a game like, well.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Look, I think there's frustration.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
You know, Kenyan Mazololo uh was was seen young at
a ref I'm pretty sure they won this weekend. You know,
there's a number there's a number of head coaches that
I think they're looking at the NFL model and they say,
at least there's just one directive, one form of coaching
these guys, teaching these guys how to go through the
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process of evaluating various plays. Instead, in college, you've got
all these different conferences. Who then are you kind of
maybe communicating things differently than everyone else, so you could
get a drastic change from the Big twelve the ACC
to the Big.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Ten to the SEC.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
That's a problem. There should be one centralized system for
officiating in the college football level include the Group of
Five as well, And I know that's a lot of games,
it's a lot of officials, but the reality is that's
part of the frustration. You're always going to get different
crews that see games differently. So maybe they call more
defensive holding, maybe they call more holding on the offensive line,
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whatever the case is, that's never going.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
To be removed from the game of football.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
But the truth is, you could at least make the
procedures and how they go about officiating these some games somewhat,
I guess, institutionalize amongst all of these conferences instead of
having them all have their own way of looking at
the game and even their own replay process in some ways,
whereas the Big Tens is now more centralized and others
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that's not the case.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
So I think that's part of the frustration.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
But when you talk about gambling and everything else that's
on the line, and I think also there's some skepticism
out there that a conference like the Big Twelve, which
that conference could legitimately get zero teams into the playoff.
This is how it happens, very very unlikely. But going
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into this past weekend, there are eight teams that are
up for it. Probably more realistically five, that number has
been cut down because you know, Texas Tech loss, so
they're behind Colorado, which if Colorado keeps winning, they'll be
playing BYU. If b YU keeps punning, even if BYU
drops a game, they would still be able to make
it into the Big Twelve championship game. So they essentially need,
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you know, one of their Big Twelve champs to have.
You know, probably two losses is the most they can
afford to have based on at least how they ranked BYU,
who was undefeated but still only as high as I
think eight in the first playoff ranking. So the problem becomes,
what EPs If you have a three loss Big Twelve
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champion and you've got a Boise State team that's only
got one loss, and then a team like Army, for example,
wins out goes undefeated, they would have to knock off
Notre Dame. But there is a scenario out there where
a Power four conference like the Big Twelve, depending on
if they keep beating each other up cannibalizing one another,
where they could get left out altogether. Now, again, very
(23:44):
unlikely a lot would have to happen, but there's skepticism
with some of the officiating and thinking that some of
the favorites are getting more favorited calls. Like if you're
a Utsah fan, you watched throughout the course that game,
you saw some calls they didn't go your way, and
you're thinking, well, we're out of it, but the BYU
might be our best shot.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
If they're the Big.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Twelve, they make it in. So people are cynical about that.
You look at Colorado Texas Tech. The most egregious call
probably the entire weekend in the Big Twelve was a
rough in the passer call, which it wasn't due to timing.
The ball was, you know, just leaving the hand of
Shador Sanders. The hit wasn't low, wasn't too high. If anything,
it would have been more lower. But I don't know
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what else you asked the defender to do, and that's
sustained to drive that helped Colorado eventually go on to
win the game. So that's where I think people start
to be questioning what's happened to the officiating Because these
conferences know there's money to be made for making sure
they're a part of the college football playoff, and so
it seems like the teams at the top, the teams
that are still in the mix tend to get the
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benefit of the doubt more some of the teams that aren't.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Uh the fans that uh, you know in Texas Tech.
I mean they handled it well though, like as far
as you think. So, yeah, I thought they handled it well.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
You know, you tell yourself appropriate.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I get the whole tortilla history about it, and if
you guys aren't familiar, I'll give you the quick history.
An announcer basically said, there's, you know, two things in Lubbock, Texas,
you know, football and a tortilla factory. And so obviously
that the fans didn't take kindly to that, and so
they brought tortillas to bring out and throw a kickoff
or they'll throw off their touchdowns tortillas on the field.
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That was cool for about ten minutes of our pregame show,
and then it got pretty annoying.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I'll just I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, So it seemed like like people there was a
guy behind you guys on set who was just ripping
mini bottles of and I think I don't what's the
cinnamon is a fireball?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Fireball?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think he was just ripping like mini bottles of fireball,
like while you guys were and I'm looking at going
it's like nine in the morning and there's like people
biting holes and tortillas and throwing them like urban myers
picking them up. You can tell he has no idea
what what are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (25:59):
I hope it was entertaining for other people, because as
sure as hell wasn't entertaining for us. I mean, I
was just trying to get out a coherent sentence at time.
You know, our host, Rob Stone has to handle like
he's a WWE like, you know, announcer, and I'm like, dude,
we need to move on from the tortillas, all right,
like like like no one's targeting Rob Stone with the tortillas.
Let's move on from this. Everyone else is like wearing
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it right now while we're trying to talk about college football.
So it was it was an experience I have actually
really enjoyed going to Lubbock.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I love their Their coach, Joey McGuire's a great coach.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
But when he has to get on the microphone during
the game to tell the fans to stop throwing stuff
on the field, you can't help but look at what
Texas did earlier this year and the fact that that
was kind of allowed and obviously they got a call reversed,
and it's really had this snowball effect where other fans
of their students feel like they're annoyted they're allowed to
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do that, and it's.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
It's not good for college football.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I mean, you've you've got guys getting all kinds of
stuff thrown at him on the sidelines. That's all we
gone on. I remember going to Boston College. They were
throwing batteries and like and pennies. I remember going like
to Purdue because they're right up on you. They'll be
throwing stuff like that. People tell you keep your helmet on.
I know, talking to coach Prime, he was. He was
telling us that on the show. But even behind the scenes,
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they're like, yeah, we're not going to be able to
hang out much on the bench in the sideline just
because of all the stuff that goes on. That's that's
part of college football, the experience. But when it starts
becoming detrimental to your team, I mean, and a distraction
from the game itself, that's when it starts to become
an issue. So look, I'm all for these kids having
fun getting hammered like Lee does on a weekend or something.
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But you know, do it the right way, like, don't
allow yourself to interject into the end of the game
and hurt your team's chances of winning.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You guys make tortillas fun from scratch. Yeah, no, it's great.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I don't want them to see another tortilla for like
five more years.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
He's the number one Shador Sanders, the number one guy.
You guys are figuring where you guys hands down? Where
is he ranking the Heisman race?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
So that's an interesting question because a lot of people
have said, like, if he's gonna be the number on
quarterback taken, why is he viewed higher in the Heisman
I think he's in like the top four. You know,
if you had to rank them, I would say there's
there's a couple issues. One, He's gonna split votes with
Colorado fans because of Travis Hunter. What Travis Hunter is
doing is is seldom seen playing both ways and being
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the type of player he is. Now, what's getting harder
for Travis Hunter is no one throws at him. You know,
he had an unbelievable interception that got called back to
it to a penalty. But outside of that, it's hard
then because everyone knows who he is, they try to
take him away. When he's playing offense and on defense,
no one's gonna throw him. I mean, if I'm a quarterback,
I never throwed him. So his stats aren't going to
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look like, you know, a guy who's gonna win the Heisman,
in part because he's so damn good that he's the
focal point of almost anyone trying to stop or anyone
if they're on offense, they're not gonna throw them, so
they might split votes.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
That makes it harder.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Two and then Ashton Genty has been phenomenal for Boise
and Cam Wward even in their loss, still through three
touchdown passes, like he's been incredible too. So that's the
hard part is you've got Ashton Genty, You've got Cam Ward,
you've got Travis Hunter. And then it's like almost like
Shador has been an afterthought even though he shouldn't be.
I mean, if they win the Big Twelve and if
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they end up moving on and winning it, statistically, he's
gonna be up there. But also just like the fact
that like he's he's what they've done with this organization
program since he's gotten there is incredible, going from one
loss a few years ago now to being a potential
Big twelve champ.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Super true.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So the odds on DraftKings right now, Travis Hunter is
the favorite at a plus one thirty, and then it's
Ashton Genty, then Dylan Gabriel, then cam.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Ward Yeah, Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Sorry, he's the other one that especially considering their schedule,
Like imagine Big ten Championship, they have a rematch forss
Ohio State eight, and he balls out in that. It'd
be hard not to think too, he doesn't have all
the momentum as a quarterback leading the number one team
going into the Heisman, as being the guy that's gonna
win A Curtis Rook Rourke is one to look at too,
if they can finish out, Like I don't see it happening,
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but if Indiana were to finish out, because if Indiana
continues on the trajectory they're on, isn't it Indiana and Oregon?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
And well they have to play Ohio State. So that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
So if they continue on the way they are if
they if they went out, isn't it Oregon in Indiana
in the in the championship game? If they went out, yes,
it would be Yeah. So I mean, I mean, it
doesn't seem likely that they can do it. But let's
just say they were to do it. Does that Is
that enough for Rourke to get it?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
I mean, statistically speaking, he's right up there with Dylan Gabriel.
But again it might come down to head to head
to that game, like if Curtis work out plays, don't
April Indiana wins the Big Ten, they go and defeated. Yeah,
I mean, I think he'd have a great case at
this point, not knowing what gent does I mean genty is,
I mean, I don't know how much you've been able
to see him this year, but.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It seems like ESPN has gotten behind him too with
the hype train.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
They should.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
He's averaging over one hundred and ninety yards per game
on the ground. That's not even like total yards that's
per game on the It's ridiculous. He's already at seventeen
hundred yards. He's gonna be through nine games. I mean
you add on a three more games. What he's doing
right now, He's gonna be somewhere over two thousand yards
rushing alone, not even scrimmage yards, and then they may
very well win the Mountain West and be maybe even
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a four seed when it comes down to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
The other guy near the top is Jalen Milroe as
well too, who's just destroying the rushing. The rushing record,
rushing touchdown record for quarterbacks at Alabama just disintegrating. I
think what he have four against LSU? I think four?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure that's a record that
you know, people look at and go, oh man, I mean,
of all the rushing quarterbacks at Alabama having a good year.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
No, he's having a great year.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I just it's gonna be hard for him to make
up compared to a gal like cam Warder's second in
the country. Camboards averaging three hundred and fifty passing yards
per game. It's done thirty two touchdowns, so much fun
to watch. Just to compare him to Rourke works throwing
twenty one. He missed some times. That's part of it.
But I mean it's just again, statistically speaking, it's hard
when you start adding all these things up.
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Speaker 7 (32:59):
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
Huh interesting not those kind of lines?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
All right?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Maybe we need to change that that intro.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Maybe we following the rundown, Guys, I don't clearly there.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I was Friday. It's John's fall.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
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Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, go ahead, explain that one away.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Hey Lee, where'd you wake up? Man?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Uh? Oh, Johnny's couch. You found yourself there. Yeah, you
ever meet somebody twice? Uh? What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (33:51):
I went to go get my glasses from Johnny and
his buddy opened the door and say, hey, but I
can see it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I've never met you before.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
It's like, no, we were hanging out last night, like
oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Wow, hey, Lee, your liver is going to meet him morgue.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
How did he say? It was good time? Now? Hey?
Oh lord, I got.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Hey by the way, I I, Uh, I made a mistake.
So I've never been to what do they call, uh
pedicures when they work on your toes.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
They work on your.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Feet, all right, So I've never had one of those.
I stubbed my big toe on like the like a
storm drain or like a sewer drain cover that was outside,
like near our place, and I decided I was going
to cut the toenail back to try and get rid
of the stuff that was dead. And I think I've
made a wrong cut. I've got an ingrown tonehail right
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now from outer space. It is so bad and I
have no idea how to handle it. No good, Yeah
it's not.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
They might have to pull it, pull it out. No,
I can help you. No, No, no, oh yeah, let's
see that.
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I have a serious
question here are the Chiefs good?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Wow? Is that a serious question?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Because I just don't know that I look at the
chief season thus far and I go, man, that was impressive.
But it's almost as if they're just getting through it.
And then you get to the postseason and Patrick Mahomes
is gonna make plays and they're gonna go to the
Super Bowl again and probably win it. Like it just
I don't know that you look at them and go,
that was impressive. That was impressive. That was impressive. Yet
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they're sitting here and they're undefeated at this point in
the season.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Which we've seen that happen in years past, and people
called it fool's gold.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I always think back to the Steelers, you know, but
they make it do now wins. I think they're twelve
and oh twelve and oh yeah, and people are like
fools gold, They're fools gold. Like listen, they didn't have
a Patrick Mahomes. I know that's probably where this is
going to all go. But you know, when you have
him as as a player, that's going to be your differentiator.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But I'm also say.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Spags, Spags is quietly, maybe not quietly, but has certainly
been outside of Patrick Mahomes, He's probably got to be
the most valuable piece of the puzzle for this Kansas
City Chiefs team. Like, that's that's what I would lean
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on the fact that, yeah, they're winning close games and
it's not crazy impressive in terms of the offensive output,
but it is Patrick Mahomes and they do have Spags
setting up the defensive play calls and and the game
plans going into the week. And I think those two
pieces put together, obviously with Andy Reid, uh that's just
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seemingly the standard right now of what being able to
be successful at the level that they're being successful at
that that seems to be the standard.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I mean, that's a scary proposition. If this team is
still winning games and the offense just hasn't looked all
that hot throughout the course of the season. I know,
there's like moving part and moving pieces and moving parts.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
There and all that.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
It just feels like they just kind of some They're
kind of like the Lions, Like it feels like somehow,
some way they're going to figure out a way. Although
Detroit's looked impressive in games, and I just don't know they.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Cantroyay physical Detroit.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
They have attitude, you know, Kansas City, They're not like
a attitude team, like, Oh they're going to come in,
They're batter than you are. They're going to beat the
hell out of you. They just beat you. Yeah, they
just beat you. I think they'll drop a couple of
games at some point. I mean, it feels like they're
getting to that point right kind of playing with fire.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Do you think they're going to drop the game against
Buffalo this week?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Though?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
That would be one that you drop if you dropped one,
I mean Buffalo, I mean Josh Allen did even necessarily
throw the ball. Well yesterday another game, if you watched
it was like neither played Gray Flacco did neither. That
being said, if there was a game, that would be
the game that you think that they could potentially stumble.
A side note, is Lee alive? And I know we
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talked to him last segment. It did not sound like
he was doing very well. I didn't want to take
up his segment, take up that time. But Lee, are
you okay?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm doing perfectly fine.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
How was your Sunday?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Sunday? Sunday was good?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yesterday?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
That was where we've we've transitioned into Monday night and Monday.
I remember we talked about Veterans Day today and I
salute all those.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That was a little over four hours ago Pacific time.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah. No, yes, Uh, Sunday was good. Sunday was what?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Did you watch the games recovered? Could I get some
game show music?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
As it possible? Is it possibly get some game show music?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Lorna?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
It's now time, Well we play Lee? When did you
start drinking? When I stop? When did you start? We'll
get to that, Lee.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Does birth count?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Lee? When did you start on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
When did I start on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yesterday? Lee?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes, Monday?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yesterday was Sunday. You clearly got after it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, it's would wine get u is mixed in? Is
the problem?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Okay, Lee? Do we have a start time?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, Friday at six.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Okay, so Friday at six am you started and you
didn't didn't stop.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Till well, truth last night? Last night? What's last night?
What time? Give us a time before the end of
the game. So eight o'clock, two.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Minutes left for the fourth I mean yeahday from Friday.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
So all right, let me ask you that. How how
bad was Saturday? Because Saturday sandwiched in between there. If
you started Friday, Saturday had to be your most valient day,
most active day of Friday was probably the worst. Saturday
was a little bit of a recovery day. You started
at six am on Friday.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
No, I'm kidding, No, you're not. Oh sorry, six fifteen. Yeah,
they had to get home first.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, you got home that you started to get after it,
and you didn't stop until last night.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
What two minutes left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Like something like that? Yeah, similar, yeah something. Uh, Yeah, Saturday,
it was a little bit of a recovery. I needed
a bloody marry, a little hair of the dog.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And then you just kept drinking again.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, a little Saturday, nap oh.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Over over under forty drinks on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Lee forty?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Lee under? You usually do?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
You started started Friday at six fifteen am and you finished.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Okay, But that's not that hard to get.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'm trying to think, what do you want from me?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I had to take ton of the airport, like like
it's like it's required duty.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I got to the airport. Of course, I got a drink.
What am I? Just?
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Where the hell is Todd going Vegas? What's he going
to Vegas for?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
He was Uh, he had a little rendezvous with oh yeah,
with a what he had a good time.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
With a what with a lady? Hold on?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Does she live there?
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Like?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Why couldn't she just come to LUs?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
She used to live in l A.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
She had a business conference in a business you know
how Todd's.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Cold.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
You imagine the woman that's like, I got a business conference.
Let me I need a piece of ass, Like Todd's
the side piece, right, She's she's up there giving a
presentation and then fine, fine closed door.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
She's with Todd.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
She's get it looks like Lee got jumped like there
in some hotel street them.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Hooking up while while he's seeing Kings of Leon. Your
sex is O five.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Oh my gosh, imagine the uh you know, the light
light somebody the lie that you just told me, somebody,
somebody like me.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I got. Why did you go with Todd? You should
have got on the plane with him, Dude.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I thought about it. I was like, why don't we
just drive out there, let's go.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, that probably wouldn't have made sense given the condition
you were in.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Well, I was finding all right.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
So I don't know, bro, what was the longest window
you were sober for this weekend?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
There was no window down, not like you said you
had to have a little recovery time.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Oh yeah, I guess I nat. I slept a good
amount on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But you were still drunk in your sleep. How do
you sleep when you're like, what is being drunk in sleep?
Can't you can't get quality sleep? I slept, I got
eight hours. I got eight hours sleep Friday and Saturday. Look,
and I don't know the last time I got eight
hours sleep at any point in the last year.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm just I'm telling.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You, many hardworking lunch pale.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You know what Sleep's underrated? You know it really is underrated.
And Lee, I recommend it in the court. Yeah, I mean,
but you know, hard to sleep with the bottle in
your hands. You know, it feels like it's going to
spill onto the ground and lee.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You never look at the bottle and be like, I
ain't drinking this ish?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Do you ever?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Do you ever look out a beer and you be like,
it just doesn't taste that good? Like I I picked
up a mick Ulture yesterday in the sweet and I
started trying to drink, and I was like, I put
it down. I was like, just isn't that good to
me right now? I know it doesn't taste that good,
but it doesn't taste that good.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
You had that it doesn't have a lot of flavor.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Doesn't know No, it did not know it was warm.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It is what you were saying. It wasn't warm. I
just didn't like the way it tasted to me yesterday.
I put it down.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Do you put it down? Or do you it does
take kind of like nothing. Do you put it down?
Or do you just say I don't really like the
way it tastes, but you continue to drink it because
you're not going to waste it?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Truth?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Uh No, I throw away plenty of Yeah, I don't.
I don't finish beers all the time?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, whether empty?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Have you ever had a drink that you didn't drink
because you didn't like it? Or do you take it
down even though you didn't like it?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Water? Actually? Yeah, Like, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I feel like there are things missing from this story
over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
There is there. It does feel like.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
There's just something. There's like a window of time that's
not being accounted for. Here did you time travel?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Like? Did you did you time travel to somewhere else? Like?
Did you like did you stay one place?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Where did you end up? Leave? I wound up? I can't.
I don't know how much I could share about this.
I wound up in Hollywood. Uh? Oh, and you live
where I lived in the valley. But how far away
from Hollywood? Are you? Not far? Walking distance? Like one
stop on the train.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
One stop on the train. So you need transportation? I yeah,
so you transport it to Hollywood? Yes, Okay, go ahead,
keep going.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
No, I found myself in a little Uh found yourself?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
What time was that?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
What time was that from the time that you knew
you were where you were at, where you started from?
What time was it that you found yourself? And then
where did you find yourself?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Ten pm to three am? Okay, okay, where'd you find yourself? Reasonable?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, a little poker match. You found yourself in a
poker match. That was when you came back to yourself.
I was I was there the whole time. What are
you talking?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You were there? Yeah? How did you find yourself there? Then?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
I how did I find myself there? I was invited?
Uh huh, and I wound up there.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It was an ad on Craigslist and they were looking
for somebody to play poker, and it just.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Happened to it.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I said.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
They had drinks there, like in a small plant. He
was like, I'm there. Where got alcohol? That was a
deciding factor. Yeah, they're like free booze. I was like,
all right, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Oh man, did you win?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
I was up for a little bit, lost on uh
ace King suited, always lose on ace Kin suited.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh man, Well, I still feel like there.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
There's part of this weekend that tell me what you
I think that I saw a picture of Lee's other neighbor,
who is so much cooler than Todd.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I would tell Todd.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
To go screw off. If I were you, this guy
John has got I mean a sweet set of guitars,
like on the wall, like super cool guy.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's his neighbor like that.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That's the type of guy to where you're gonna hang
out with, Like, you know, things get a little bit
dicey late, Like I would trust you with John Todd,
not so much.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'm out on Todd. I'm more of a kN guy now. Yeah,
John's cool, many gifted musician.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Does he have the hair and the look like hair,
long hair?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You know? I don't understand. How do you comfortable couch?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
How do you have a set group of dudes that
you hang out with that look the same, but that
does not fit the profile of what you date?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
How does that work? That's a good question. I don't know.
It's very it's very opposite ends of the spectrum. Lee,
how's that work? I'm a renaissance man. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I get it rid.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, it gets around. It's rock and roll Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Okay, Welle, what the hell does that mean?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
All right? Rock and roll? Well, I mean you rocking
and rolling Hollywood. But you like.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
We're all just trying to figure out life a little bit.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I know, you're trying to figure it out too, But
we're all trying to figure it out together, and you're
not giving us all the information we need.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So Lee, they clearly know something that you're not divulging.
Can can you please talk about it?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Please? I've given you everything I got. I don't know, man,
you know what the raiders on the uh Google doctus?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Oh wait, hold on, hold on. I used to be
I used to be on Lee's side of this. I
think I understand about you know, where the other person
in the relationship is coming from, because if this is
the explanation that he gets when he gets home, it's like, Okay,
I can understand the frustration now. Dang, I mean, am
I wrong? Like there's a there's always like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Man, Like I I kind.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Of don't remember for about eight hours.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's like, Okay, I found myself Like he didn't find
himself like in a corner. He found himself in a
poker match. Oh man, Like that's like you're like the
real like quantum leap type dude.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Man, you know, cooked, cooked the steak, went to a
poker match. Good times? Yeah? Well listen, uh.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Is John is John your neighbor, the one Lee John
is talking about Lee? Yes, okay, is John Mary dating?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
What's the uh uh yeah yeah his girlfriend? Uh, Nicole's
very nice lady. Yeah, I can tell you mayby chicken nugt. Well,
I mean the mill looks good.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, definitely does. Well.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
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Speaker 2 (16:13):
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Speaker 3 (16:18):
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Speaker 2 (16:49):
But uh, you know, apparently, uh not the.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Most ideal weekend for people in the world of college football.
Now we can focus on the teams that lost near
the top, like Miami or Georgia. You know, feels like
maybe the Big twelve's got some issues.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I'll tell you what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Carson Beck has not played well the past two games,
and that's It's significant because coming into this season, Shador
Sanders Carson.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Beck reviewed as the top two quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
For next year's NFL draft, and I would say Shador
Sanders has solidified himself as the first quarterback that's gonna
be taken in next year's draft. Even as good as
cam Ward has played, I think there will be some
concerns about his adaptability from what he's doing in college
to an NFL offense. And you know, his size, stature,
those sorts of things. These are just things that I'm
told talking to NFL scouts who are at these games
(17:42):
or some guys who I know who are decision makers
in the industry. But you know, Beck's taken a lot
of the blame because interceptions always go on the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
The reality is the offensive line play has been poor.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I've said before, all their pass catchers, their wide receivers,
tight ends have done an awful job at times getting
hands on footballs and catching it or just knocking it
down to the ground instead, they're almost making it easier
on the defense deflecting it back up. But Georgia is
not the Georgia we saw the previous three years, and
that has become very apparent. But the bigger issue I
(18:15):
think in college football right now, at least in one conference,
is the Big Twelve officiating. That's the biggest I guess
frustration for a lot of fans out there.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
So Mark Harlan, who you know is the ad for Utah,
he also had a little bit of an issue with
the officiating apparently. You know, there was a holding call
that continue to drive. I'm not going to say that
that led to BYU winning that game. Fantastic game, by
the way.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
By the way, that was the proper call. Anyone who
watched the play and you sell some of the different angles.
It was defensive holding. I know, it's unfortunate because it
came up on fourth down. If you get that stop,
you get off the field, you win if you're a
Utah fan. But I mean, that wasn't the most egregious
call there was. There was more earlier in the game
that were egregious. If you're a Utah fan, you would
have frustrated about it, but that was not the worst
(19:06):
call of the game. And by the way, you still
had an entire drive. You get a stop and you
could at that point agreed.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
So Mark Harlan, the athletic director for Utah, spoke following
the game and had this to say.
Speaker 9 (19:18):
I've been an athletic director for twelve years.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
This game was absolutely stolen from us. We were excited
about being the Big twelve.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
But tonight I am not We won this game. Someone
else stole it from us. Very disappointed. I will talk
to the commissioner. This was not fair to our team.
I'm disgusted by the professionalism of the officiating crew tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
And that cost him forty thousand dollars. So he got
fined forty grand for those comments following the game.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I still don't understand that the premise of finding somebody
who's giving their honest opinion, I don't get it, Like
I mean, I get it, but I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like what does it matter like to me?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It only furthers that it's a bad look if you're
getting fined for talking about it, whether college weather pro
like oh, I didn't like the way that this game
was called, or I felt like the difference in the
game was the way that the game was handled bat
of referees, this, that and the other.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Why do you get.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Fined if he had said something along the lines of,
you know, the officials were on the take or they
were like, I can understand that, but I also agree,
I don't know that some of these fines are necessary,
Like there's nothing wrong with venting following a game like, well.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Look, I think there's frustration.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
You know, Kenyan Mazololo uh was was seen young at
a ref I'm pretty sure they won this weekend. You know,
there's a number there's a number of head coaches that
I think they're looking at the NFL model and they say,
at least there's just one directive, one form of coaching
these guys, teaching these guys how to go through the
(21:07):
process of evaluating various plays. Instead, in college, you've got
all these different conferences. Who then are you kind of
maybe communicating things differently than everyone else, so you could
get a drastic change from the Big twelve the ACC
to the Big.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Ten to the SEC.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
That's a problem. There should be one centralized system for
officiating in the college football level include the Group of
Five as well, And I know that's a lot of games,
it's a lot of officials, but the reality is that's
part of the frustration. You're always going to get different
crews that see games differently. So maybe they call more
defensive holding, maybe they call more holding on the offensive line,
(21:47):
whatever the case is, that's never going.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
To be removed from the game of football.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
But the truth is, you could at least make the
procedures and how they go about officiating these some games somewhat,
I guess, institutionalize amongst all of these conferences instead of
having them all have their own way of looking at
the game and even their own replay process in some ways,
whereas the Big Tens is now more centralized and others
(22:14):
that's not the case.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
So I think that's part of the frustration.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
But when you talk about gambling and everything else that's
on the line, and I think also there's some skepticism
out there that a conference like the Big Twelve, which
that conference could legitimately get zero teams into the playoff.
This is how it happens, very very unlikely. But going
(22:39):
into this past weekend, there are eight teams that are
up for it. Probably more realistically five, that number has
been cut down because you know, Texas Tech loss, so
they're behind Colorado, which if Colorado keeps winning, they'll be
playing BYU. If b YU keeps punning, even if BYU
drops a game, they would still be able to make
it into the Big Twelve championship game. So they essentially need,
(23:02):
you know, one of their Big Twelve champs to have.
You know, probably two losses is the most they can
afford to have based on at least how they ranked BYU,
who was undefeated but still only as high as I
think eight in the first playoff ranking. So the problem becomes,
what EPs If you have a three loss Big Twelve
(23:22):
champion and you've got a Boise State team that's only
got one loss, and then a team like Army, for example,
wins out goes undefeated, they would have to knock off
Notre Dame. But there is a scenario out there where
a Power four conference like the Big Twelve, depending on
if they keep beating each other up cannibalizing one another,
where they could get left out altogether. Now, again, very
(23:44):
unlikely a lot would have to happen, but there's skepticism
with some of the officiating and thinking that some of
the favorites are getting more favorited calls. Like if you're
a Utsah fan, you watched throughout the course that game,
you saw some calls they didn't go your way, and
you're thinking, well, we're out of it, but the BYU
might be our best shot.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
If they're the Big.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Twelve, they make it in. So people are cynical about that.
You look at Colorado Texas Tech. The most egregious call
probably the entire weekend in the Big Twelve was a
rough in the passer call, which it wasn't due to timing.
The ball was, you know, just leaving the hand of
Shador Sanders. The hit wasn't low, wasn't too high. If anything,
it would have been more lower. But I don't know
(24:23):
what else you asked the defender to do, and that's
sustained to drive that helped Colorado eventually go on to
win the game. So that's where I think people start
to be questioning what's happened to the officiating Because these
conferences know there's money to be made for making sure
they're a part of the college football playoff, and so
it seems like the teams at the top, the teams
that are still in the mix tend to get the
(24:44):
benefit of the doubt more some of the teams that aren't.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Uh the fans that uh, you know in Texas Tech.
I mean they handled it well though, like as far
as you think. So, yeah, I thought they handled it well.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
You know, you tell yourself appropriate.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I get the whole tortilla history about it, and if
you guys aren't familiar, I'll give you the quick history.
An announcer basically said, there's, you know, two things in Lubbock, Texas,
you know, football and a tortilla factory. And so obviously
that the fans didn't take kindly to that, and so
they brought tortillas to bring out and throw a kickoff
or they'll throw off their touchdowns tortillas on the field.
(25:17):
That was cool for about ten minutes of our pregame show,
and then it got pretty annoying.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I'll just I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, So it seemed like like people there was a
guy behind you guys on set who was just ripping
mini bottles of and I think I don't what's the
cinnamon is a fireball?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Fireball?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think he was just ripping like mini bottles of fireball,
like while you guys were and I'm looking at going
it's like nine in the morning and there's like people
biting holes and tortillas and throwing them like urban myers
picking them up. You can tell he has no idea
what what are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (25:59):
I hope it was entertaining for other people, because as
sure as hell wasn't entertaining for us. I mean, I
was just trying to get out a coherent sentence at time.
You know, our host, Rob Stone has to handle like
he's a WWE like, you know, announcer, and I'm like, dude,
we need to move on from the tortillas, all right,
like like like no one's targeting Rob Stone with the tortillas.
Let's move on from this. Everyone else is like wearing
(26:21):
it right now while we're trying to talk about college football.
So it was it was an experience I have actually
really enjoyed going to Lubbock.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I love their Their coach, Joey McGuire's a great coach.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
But when he has to get on the microphone during
the game to tell the fans to stop throwing stuff
on the field, you can't help but look at what
Texas did earlier this year and the fact that that
was kind of allowed and obviously they got a call reversed,
and it's really had this snowball effect where other fans
of their students feel like they're annoyted they're allowed to
(26:52):
do that, and it's.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
It's not good for college football.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I mean, you've you've got guys getting all kinds of
stuff thrown at him on the sidelines. That's all we
gone on. I remember going to Boston College. They were
throwing batteries and like and pennies. I remember going like
to Purdue because they're right up on you. They'll be
throwing stuff like that. People tell you keep your helmet on.
I know, talking to coach Prime, he was. He was
telling us that on the show. But even behind the scenes,
(27:16):
they're like, yeah, we're not going to be able to
hang out much on the bench in the sideline just
because of all the stuff that goes on. That's that's
part of college football, the experience. But when it starts
becoming detrimental to your team, I mean, and a distraction
from the game itself, that's when it starts to become
an issue. So look, I'm all for these kids having
fun getting hammered like Lee does on a weekend or something.
(27:38):
But you know, do it the right way, like, don't
allow yourself to interject into the end of the game
and hurt your team's chances of winning.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You guys make tortillas fun from scratch. Yeah, no, it's great.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I don't want them to see another tortilla for like
five more years.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
He's the number one Shador Sanders, the number one guy.
You guys are figuring where you guys hands down? Where
is he ranking the Heisman race?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
So that's an interesting question because a lot of people
have said, like, if he's gonna be the number on
quarterback taken, why is he viewed higher in the Heisman
I think he's in like the top four. You know,
if you had to rank them, I would say there's
there's a couple issues. One, He's gonna split votes with
Colorado fans because of Travis Hunter. What Travis Hunter is
doing is is seldom seen playing both ways and being
(28:31):
the type of player he is. Now, what's getting harder
for Travis Hunter is no one throws at him. You know,
he had an unbelievable interception that got called back to
it to a penalty. But outside of that, it's hard
then because everyone knows who he is, they try to
take him away. When he's playing offense and on defense,
no one's gonna throw him. I mean, if I'm a quarterback,
I never throwed him. So his stats aren't going to
(28:52):
look like, you know, a guy who's gonna win the Heisman,
in part because he's so damn good that he's the
focal point of almost anyone trying to stop or anyone
if they're on offense, they're not gonna throw them, so
they might split votes.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
That makes it harder.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Two and then Ashton Genty has been phenomenal for Boise
and Cam Wward even in their loss, still through three
touchdown passes, like he's been incredible too. So that's the
hard part is you've got Ashton Genty, You've got Cam Ward,
you've got Travis Hunter. And then it's like almost like
Shador has been an afterthought even though he shouldn't be.
I mean, if they win the Big Twelve and if
(29:26):
they end up moving on and winning it, statistically, he's
gonna be up there. But also just like the fact
that like he's he's what they've done with this organization
program since he's gotten there is incredible, going from one
loss a few years ago now to being a potential
Big twelve champ.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Super true.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So the odds on DraftKings right now, Travis Hunter is
the favorite at a plus one thirty, and then it's
Ashton Genty, then Dylan Gabriel, then cam.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Ward Yeah, Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Sorry, he's the other one that especially considering their schedule,
Like imagine Big ten Championship, they have a rematch forss
Ohio State eight, and he balls out in that. It'd
be hard not to think too, he doesn't have all
the momentum as a quarterback leading the number one team
going into the Heisman, as being the guy that's gonna
win A Curtis Rook Rourke is one to look at too,
if they can finish out, Like I don't see it happening,
(30:17):
but if Indiana were to finish out, because if Indiana
continues on the trajectory they're on, isn't it Indiana and Oregon?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
And well they have to play Ohio State. So that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
So if they continue on the way they are if
they if they went out, isn't it Oregon in Indiana
in the in the championship game? If they went out, yes,
it would be Yeah. So I mean, I mean, it
doesn't seem likely that they can do it. But let's
just say they were to do it. Does that Is
that enough for Rourke to get it?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
I mean, statistically speaking, he's right up there with Dylan Gabriel.
But again it might come down to head to head
to that game, like if Curtis work out plays, don't
April Indiana wins the Big Ten, they go and defeated. Yeah,
I mean, I think he'd have a great case at
this point, not knowing what gent does I mean genty is,
I mean, I don't know how much you've been able
to see him this year, but.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It seems like ESPN has gotten behind him too with
the hype train.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
They should.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
He's averaging over one hundred and ninety yards per game
on the ground. That's not even like total yards that's
per game on the It's ridiculous. He's already at seventeen
hundred yards. He's gonna be through nine games. I mean
you add on a three more games. What he's doing
right now, He's gonna be somewhere over two thousand yards
rushing alone, not even scrimmage yards, and then they may
very well win the Mountain West and be maybe even
(31:37):
a four seed when it comes down to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
The other guy near the top is Jalen Milroe as
well too, who's just destroying the rushing. The rushing record,
rushing touchdown record for quarterbacks at Alabama just disintegrating. I
think what he have four against LSU? I think four?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure that's a record that
you know, people look at and go, oh man, I mean,
of all the rushing quarterbacks at Alabama having a good year.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
No, he's having a great year.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I just it's gonna be hard for him to make
up compared to a gal like cam Warder's second in
the country. Camboards averaging three hundred and fifty passing yards
per game. It's done thirty two touchdowns, so much fun
to watch. Just to compare him to Rourke works throwing
twenty one. He missed some times. That's part of it.
But I mean it's just again, statistically speaking, it's hard
when you start adding all these things up.
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Speaker 2 (32:44):
A little over ten minutes from now.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
We know who it's over for in the NFL, all right,
We've had a pretty clear understanding of that. We will
get into those teams those players coming up here again
a little over ten minutes from now. But right now
it is time for.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
This five lines.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Huh interesting not those kind of lines?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
All right?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Maybe we need to change that that intro.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Maybe we following the rundown, Guys, I don't clearly there.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I was Friday. It's John's fall.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
So it's time to get the fs R I all record.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, go ahead, explain that one away.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Hey Lee, where'd you wake up? Man?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Uh? Oh, Johnny's couch. You found yourself there. Yeah, you
ever meet somebody twice? Uh? What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (33:51):
I went to go get my glasses from Johnny and
his buddy opened the door and say, hey, but I
can see it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I've never met you before.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
It's like, no, we were hanging out last night, like
oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Wow, hey, Lee, your liver is going to meet him morgue.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
How did he say? It was good time? Now? Hey?
Oh lord, I got.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Hey by the way, I I, Uh, I made a mistake.
So I've never been to what do they call, uh
pedicures when they work on your toes.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
They work on your.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Feet, all right, So I've never had one of those.
I stubbed my big toe on like the like a
storm drain or like a sewer drain cover that was outside,
like near our place, and I decided I was going
to cut the toenail back to try and get rid
of the stuff that was dead. And I think I've
made a wrong cut. I've got an ingrown tonehail right
(35:03):
now from outer space. It is so bad and I
have no idea how to handle it. No good, Yeah
it's not.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
They might have to pull it, pull it out. No,
I can help you. No, No, no, oh yeah, let's
see that.
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