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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Monday edition, we will talk about a
busy weekend in the world of football, a lot of
highs when it comes to college football. The playoff rankings
are out. Some people aren't happy, but others are. We've
got home playoff games, so much excitement. And then you
turn to the NFL where it was bad team after

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bad team on display, a couple of bride spots, but
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We finally got it. The college football playoffs are set.
We know who's where and who's playing who. So let's
discuss who's got a gripe. Who's got to complain?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Because first off, is that how we have to start
this off. We can't be like excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm excited about it, but that's par for the course
when it comes to this stuff that everyone wants to
complain about the situation I'm starting.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm not starting this off on a negative vein no chance, man.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think this is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
This is awesome. I'm excited for it. By the way, Vaur,
you've got to be excited because the the States got
easiest path before.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, we got a great path. I mean, I didn't
like the fact that we lost, but I did highlight
it on our show that if we did lose, that
there was a chance that that would be something to
the effect of what our path would be and yeah,
I mean I like it.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I like it. I like it a lot actually.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
And we can end up playing you you know, yeah, yeah,
which to get there.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's Uh, that's the unfortunate part about some of the
complaints is, Look, there's obviously the debate between Alabama and
SMU that that's gonna be the thing that stands out
the most, and we talked about it last week like
that was always going to be the decision for the committee,
And you do have to wonder if Clemson had blown
out SMU, would that have created an opportunity more for Alabama?

(02:52):
Whereas once SMU came back in that game, tied it up,
forced Clemson to kick a fifty six yarder game winner.
Did that ultimately change the opinion of a lot of
the folks in the College Fotball Playoff Committee or was
their mind made up going into the conference championship weekend
saying that we're not going to ding a team that

(03:14):
gets to the conference championship game and loses, because otherwise
you could make the case that a lot of teams
wouldn't want to have to even go play those games,
like they wouldn't want to risk going to a conference
championship game. If they were ranked in a position to
go to the college football playoff, but with a loss,
they would drop out. A lot of them would be like, well,

(03:36):
what's the point of going and playing? Then, like you're
penalizing us for being successful enough to go play in
our conference championship, but then at the same time, if
we don't win it, we're out. So I understand there's
an argument to be made for strength to schedule, and
Alabama's strength to schedule is harder and more difficult than
SMUs that that's fine, But if we want to debate that,

(03:58):
we also need to debate the fact that the SEC
only plays eight conference games. Big ten plays nine. There's
other conferences where it's eight verse nine. So you have
those issues. If you really want to get into it,
we can talk about the athle rector athletic director Greg
Byrn for Alabama, who comes out and says, well, we're
gonna have to change up how we go about schedule
our non conference. Greg, what do you mean you guys

(04:21):
didn't lose in the non conference. Your non conference was
ridiculously easy. The toughest theme you played was Wisconsin and Madison,
which finishes the twelfth best team of the Big Ten,
Like that wasn't your issue. Why Alabama's not in the playoff.
You lost to Vandy, you got blowed out by Oklahoma
in Norman. That's why you're not in the playoff. It

(04:42):
wasn't because of your non conference schedule. I mean, some
of the arguments that have come out from all of
this are hilarious, and that was probably at the top
of the list is all these Alabama fans un well,
we're just not gonna play anybody. You didn't anywhere. You
just played Mercer a couple weeks ago. What do you
meet your non conference? If anything, go play an extra

(05:03):
conference game. If you think the SEC is superior, play
nine games, then go do what the Big Ten does
and then maybe that gets you in over SMU or
go play nine or ten. I mean Nick Saban talked
about it. Just play more conference games and then you
can kind of flex on everyone with how difficult your
schedule is. Because we've got these mega conferences now, Like

(05:24):
I think that's gonna be one of the bigger changes
they look at is with the conferences being as big
as they are, you get some teams like Texas for example,
Like who's Texas best win. I mean, seriously, who's their
best win. They played a much lesser version of the
SEC so we can go through that, you know, the
exercises of comparing resumes. At the end of the day,

(05:48):
the committee talked about not penalizing teams for playing the
conference championship weekend, and they didn't and they held up
their words. So look, I would do a few things
differently if it was me, But I can't wait to
see these teams score off and play. It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
And so the lineups are purely based off of what
the end rankings of how they ranked the teams was
the result of how they alignt on on the bracket correct.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Uh yeah, which there's some Again, there's so many things
that bother me about kind of what they did, how
they did it.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I mean it kind of it's to me, it's kind
of a jacked up bracket. It really is kind of,
in my opinion, it's a jacked up brat.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
So think about this. Clemson lost to South Carolina, but
Clemson won the ACC. So because they won the ACC,
they're an automatic qualifier to get into the College Football Playoff.
I don't have an issue with that. I actually think
that's how it should be for all of the POWERFO
conference champs and then the highest ranked group of five

(06:47):
champ What shouldn't happen is that championship gets you an
automatic qualifier for a buy. That's where I draw the line.
I mean, honestly, if we're being real and I had
my way, it'd be sixteen teams and I wouldn't allow
anyone to have a buy. But we're not there, so whatever.
What the problem is is Clemson is ranked sixteenth in

(07:08):
their final ranking and they had to put them at
sixteenth because South Carolina beat them and they're fifteen. So
since Clemson automatically qualifies with their ACC championship, they allowed
the head to head to matter. Then all right, well
we're just head to head not matter. Well, Penn State,
Ohio State. Ohio State beat Penn State in Happy Valley,

(07:30):
and for some reason they're behind Penn State, which doesn't
really make as much sense, although again we go back
to the conference championship weekend. Penn State made it to
the Big Ten Championship, Ohio State didn't, so Penn State's
ranked higher than Ohio State. So there's another example of
that too. But you just look at it that way
and go, well, this doesn't make any sense. I mean,
Clemson just beat SMU, and SMU was still ranked higher

(07:52):
in the final rankings. So there's a lot of things
that don't connect and don't make sense with how they
ended up doing their final rankings. It was just their
way of getting the twelve teams that I think they
would say have earned the right to play for the
playoff in their mind, who do you.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Think should have had the bye weeks? Are those four
teams correct or should have been a different though?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Again, if I so, I would do one of two things.
If you were going to do this format, I would
reseed after the first round, which they're not going to do,
meaning you know, you're gonna look at the number one
seeds and then and number two and number three and
number four, and then they're going to play you know,
for example, Oregon is going to have to play the
winner of Ohio State and Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
That's crazy, which is nuts, And by the way, that's
the national title game right there.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
You can make that case and their path as a
team that kind of buy will be the most difficult
of any of them, because then if they beat you know,
Ohio State Tennessee, whoever the is the winner of the
first round. They would then play potentially Texas, who's one
of the higher seeds that's that's above them in that
part of the bracket. And then let's just say they
play the highest seed for the national championship. Well, that'd

(09:01):
be Georgia. They're the two seed. So your path is
incredibly difficult. Thank you very much for going undefeated, winning
the Big Ten and being the number one overall seed.
Mind you, here's your path you win a national Championshi,
it's ridiculous. You know what I would have done was this.
I would have made the four Power four conference champions
automatic qualifiers. I would have had the highest group of

(09:23):
five team like Boise they automatically qualified too. But then
I'm going to have the committee go ahead and rank
those teams based on the rankings. So Oregon would still
be won and they would get the buy, but they
would be in the portion of the bracket that plays
the winner of the you know, five and twelve or
whatever it is, and which when this case, would have
been the winner of like Notre Dame and Clemson. So

(09:45):
instead of going through this scholar, they're playing the winner
of the eight and nine, they can potentially get a
matchup versus you know, two teams that you know weren't
viewed cudits as highly. I guess in that case, but
it would have been more of like Oregon one, Uga two.
You know, if it was penns Day three, you know
Texas three, how you see it, and then vice versa.
The other is fourth. Like those four teams, to me,

(10:07):
if those are your four highest ranked, they should get
a buye and then the next subsequent eight teams you know,
five through twelve would be ranked and they'd play out
in the first round.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I thought to myself, if you come up with who
you're your four by your four bye week teams? Are
you list your four bye week teams? Do like, do
away with rankings all together, put your four foot put
the four teams that you feel are going to have
the buys, and then do a lottery with the rest
of the eight. I think that that s would be

(10:40):
kind of exciting and it kind of takes away any
type of this person has this logic. This person has
this logic. This person's like bump that just put them
on some uh some bouncy balls, put them in the
dip run it around a lottery, have a lottery. I mean,
why not eight teams? Why not have a lottery on

(11:03):
who plays who? I mean, I thought that, I thought
it was interesting. The most interesting one is Oregon's draw,
Like that's that's a that's the most interesting one of
them all.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Like the reseeding is the part that bothers me, because
there's other playoff formats that do it. I think the
lack of receiving, Yeah, the fact that you're being you
should be rewarded and punished based on your seating every
single round, not just when you get into where you're
the lower seed you play the top seed. Well what
if that team that lower seed wins, you reseed them

(11:35):
and this isn't the case. And that's the part that
bothers me. And there's other playoff formats that do that
as well too. I think the NBA might do it
and it it doesn't really make much sense to me
because then it's all about you're depending on the committee
to give you the best path. So if you're you know,
the Texas or if you're Penn State, you're looking at
it going. I mean, we just lost our conference championship

(11:57):
games and we've got a better opportunity to get to
the college football the final four. Then maybe the other
team that just beat us.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Well, that doesn't that doesn't seem to make sense. It doesn't,
But then now it does put a lot of pressure.
Like I was talking to somebody there, like, man, it's
like it seems like it was a great draw and
a great pool for Penn State. I said, but imagine
if they were to lose to SMU in the first round,
or if they were to lose the Boise in the
second round, Like, because there's the expectation that they should

(12:27):
beat two of the easiest teams, and in the playoff
they draw two of the easiest teams in the playoff
to play. If they were to lose, I mean, what
does that mean for the head coach? Like, I mean
every single time we lose, the first thing they go
to is get rid of him.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Can I make us statement too? In defense of James Franklin.
So everyone throws around the top five wins like he's
won in what is he not one in fourteen? Whatever
it is, it's a business. And then they're like, oh,
and you go back before James Franklin in two thousand,
they've got one win over top five team. Dude, show
me the stats on every team versus top five opponents.

(13:09):
And in all seriousness, like people act like, oh, yeah,
you know, you know certain coaches have a great record
versus top five teams. No, they don't like, No, they
don't like. I don't care who you are. It's like
every time I hear someone go, well, he's really struggled
versus pressure today, and it's like, yeah, every quarterback has.
Have you ever looked at the entire list of quarterbacks

(13:32):
versus pressure? However they divide it up on PFF or
any of the other websites, like, go look at their
numbers versus pressure. None of them are good. Like, yes,
they're completing a little above fifty percent. That's usually what
it is. Some guys are a little bit lower than that,
but for the most part, they're they're not playing as
well if they have a clean pocket. If they were

(13:54):
struggling in a clean pocket, they probably won't be playing
at all. So I just I hate that argument where
they're like, oh, man, James Franklin's really struggle for his
top five teams. It's like, all right, show me a
guy who's got a winning record for his top five
teams in all seriousness, like the best ones are maybe
five hundred maybe, Like I'd love to go back and
look at Nick Saban. Have you looked at Kirby Smart's
record versus Alabama? Does anyone talk about that? Like not great?

(14:18):
I mean, it doesn't matter, but they just won the SEC.
They're the number two overall seed. You can you can
always talk about that. It is a lazy, tired argument,
like they're going into the games as underdogs. So what
you're basically doing is saying, hey man, we need James
to upset these teams. I mean, Oregon's been the number one.
They were the best team in the country wire to

(14:38):
wire and they're going and it's the number one scene
and they're like, no, yeah, he's James Frankl's gonna win this.
It's like, dude, okay, Like it's just it's such a
bad stat I hate that. But I do think there's
some validity to the conversation of someone asked me about
Ryan Day, Hey, Ohio stateke gets to host Tennessee and
what is if they lose to tennis? It's to Tennessee. Yeah,

(15:01):
after what we just saw first Michigan, like and Kurk
Gurcery talked about it. You have to be tough when
that first third down comes out, they go three and out,
they have to punt and they're booing Like what was
I was thinking of my head? I wonder if Ohio State,
the actual coaches and team were like that, probably wouldn't
mind if he had to go down to Knoxville. Like
like tough environment. I've told people that's one of the
toughest environments I've ever played in college or pro. But

(15:26):
you at least know what you're getting into when you
go on the road versus like an environment like that
you don't expect when you're at home, you know, and
things don't aren't going well and you got your fans
you're supposed to be behind you, but they're booing you. Is
that though?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Is that still going on in Columbus? Like they haven't
they haven't shifted past Hey, we're in the college football
and that's it's not.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
A buzzy no what do you mean, Like they don't care.
They just like they loss. It's like that's all people
are thinking about right now in Columbus, Like that is
another one of those Well they can still play for
a national championship. You know, Ohio State fans will get
over it. No, they won't. They don't. They don't get

(16:09):
over a loss to Michigan. It takes another year where
they have the next opportunity to try to beat Michigan
before they get over it. I just that's the funny
thing about college football is I have a different perspective
because I travel around and we get to talk to
folks from different places, and you see a lot of things.
But some of the narratives that come out, like I'm
telling you, man, Alabama, what was the best? We're not

(16:30):
a part of your playoffs. We're not going to schedule
it's difficult of a non conference all right, you didn't anyway,
So what are we talking about here? A pal Like,
It's just it's just ridiculous people. And by the way,
people are getting chirpy at me for Penn State because
what time's the start of that playoff game there? LeVar, Yeah,
I think it's early. You think I know, it's ely

(16:51):
it's at noon. And by the way, you guys doing
a white out, that's interesting. I mean, we were told
that you can't do a white out at noon, but.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Apparently supposed to be late. It's it's supposed to be
under the lights when you do it.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Wid Hey, I get it. I'm just telling you, like,
there is a lot of hypocrisy running rampant right now
through college football with some of the things that fans
are saying and complaining about. And by the way, that's
a TNT game, just to reiterate TNT and for any
complaints at TNT, I'm not even sure if they have
a football handle because somehow they got in on the

(17:23):
sub licensing room with the ESPN. But there you go.
You can go to TNT and complain about the start
time of that game to them.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, wasn't that because of the inside the NBA stuff
that they kind of floated them. They said, hey, we
feel bad about all that.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
So they Penn State game.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, they lost out. They lost out in the NBA, right,
so they're like, well, listen, we'll do you solid, We'll
give you play and Penn State.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
What's short sighted about college football? And honestly, and this
is just I'm being very open and transparent when I
say this, what ESPN did by sub licensing to TNT
is definitely a part of what you just said. That's
a part of it. I also think there is a
thought that when you have one network that covers a sport,

(18:08):
especially at this point in time of the year, they
don't really do it justice as far as creating this
thought that we cover it as like non biased as possible,
and people will say, like Fox or CBS and nbct're
gonna be biased to Big ten because they have the
rights to it. So there's always gonna be arguments on
both sides. It's not good for the sport though, Like

(18:28):
if you're honest with yourself, you're Greg Sanke and youre
any other conference commissioner, it's not good for your product
if you have one network that broadcasts it. It's just
not you don't get as many voices, you don't get
as many perspectives that are part of it, you don't
get the different styles of presentation. It's one of the
reason why I look at the NFL. You have Fox,

(18:50):
you have ABC, you have a CBS an NBC, you
have Amazon, you have Netflix coming up. The more the
merrier and the sense of like how can we grow
our viewership and grow our audience. And that's one of
the things with this twelve team playoff that ESPN paid
for it. They footed the bill, you know, and and
it's you know, it is what it is. But it's

(19:12):
not good for the sport that you've got a network
that's basically regional for the entirety of the college football
season with their package of sec ACC that's sprinkling a
little big twelve. It's just not good for the sport.
They should incorporate more networks, more people as a part
of it. And instead you get like, hey, tn T,
you haven't been here all year, but it come to

(19:33):
a playoff game, and I know they're gonna get That's
the thing is, they're gonna they're gonna use ESPN talent,
So they're slapping it on tn T. But it's like
ESPN ELP production. Yeah, ABC ESPN. Which is one of
the interesting things because if you looked at what it,
you know, Disney has really done this year. They pushed
all their cards behind their ABC, the broadcast network, and

(19:57):
they actually in doing that hurt a lot of their
writings for ESPN that really didn't get many of their
bigger games. So ABC won the primetime window, they won
the three thirty window. There's the two top most viewed
windows from this regular season in college football. The problem
is is ESPN has been down more than ever before.
Now part of that's their business plan because they're kind

(20:18):
of winding down ESPN and they're pushing everything to ESPN Plus,
so they'll have like broadcast on ABC and then digital.
There won't be really anything in between in the future.
But that's a decision that they made, and it's it's
one of those business decisions that they're making as they
move forward. But at the same time, again I'm kind
of getting off the tracks here, going back to the
original point. It's just it's not good when you've got

(20:39):
kind of one network that's a part of it, like you,
you don't get this mixture of folks handling it. That's
why I kind of look at the NFL and say, well,
if that's the model where college football is going, then
maybe you should be replicating it that this point in
time during the.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Year, you guys are going to those games, right, Brady,
You're going to Indiana under Dame.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
I'll be I'll be pressed for Indiana, Notre Dame. I'll
probably be at Ohio State Tennessee as well, So it's
be awesome there in the Battle of Indiana.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, my Catholics Catholics versus cigarettes.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, oh wow, I heard They've only played one other
time before. If I'm not mistaken, it.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Was like nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Eddy's got a red ass too, He's got the puffy bottom,
Yeah he does.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
It is a real red But the first time a
network outside of NBC is broadcast at at a Notre
Dame home game since I believe in nineteen ninety kind
of crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I mean, if they're gonna let TNT do these games,
I mean, why don't you let Ernie Johnson and Charles
Barkley cal hm, you know, in.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
All seriousness, like, I don't know how you don't have
those guys as a part of it for an entertainment value.
But like again, and I'm not it's ESPN talent who
are calling the game. I believe it's like Mark Jones,
and I forget who is who he's calling it with.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I thought Mark Jones just lived in Bouldering.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I don't know he was also doing doing other games.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Some of these guys calling the games, man, they shouldn't
be calling games. I'm gonna just say that, and I'm
gonna lead out alone.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Has that come off some of these games or what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
I just just some of these guys, man, they shouldn't
be calling. I don't know how they got into the booth, Like,
I don't know who approved it for them to get
into the booth to be a part of doing it. Man,
that's all I'll say. Yeah, some of them, some of
the stuff that like, I don't know, and I ain't
gonna say no names or anything like that, but I
just you know, you listen to how they talk about

(22:37):
some of the things, and you know, in certain situations
and clearly you have zero awareness or understanding what the
game of football is.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
And I just leave it at that.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Man, I really would like and I try not to
be very, you know, kind of critical of guys who
are are doing play calls.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
But look, I'm not asking to give a name, like
just what games did they call this weekend?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
You know, I'm not going to Jonas is driving the
bus he wants to drive over someone. I'm not going
to do that. But I will say, like, you gots
tickets to get into some of these by the way,
the prices notre do.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think it's all It's over.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, it's like that Bunny pag Yo one bag, two
gs just to get in.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, it's crazy. That's a that's a hell of a
Christmas gift. So people in Indiana, you got yourselves an idea, right,
throw it out.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
That's going to be a thump too. Man.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
That's that might be outside of Ohio State, Tennessee, that
might be. I mean, I think Texas and Clemson is
going to be a throttle too.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
But that'll be a much better game, people realize.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
I think that Notre Dame in Indiana is going to
be that's going to be a that's going to be
a fun game to watch. Man, I think will be
to my fourteen. I don't I don't know who's going
to win. I just think that that's going to be
that's going to be a fun game to watch because
I feel like there's some relative unknowns in terms of
with both of them.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
You know, it's crazy about the Ohio state, for example,
which seats over one hundred thousand, I think like one
hundred and two or something like that. So a lot
of these tickets they're not transferable, so depending on like
where you purchase through they you're not gonna be able
to sell it to someone else, like if you're a
part of the Ohio State fan base or alumni and

(24:23):
they like try to get their tickets to sell them
to someone, they'd have to find another way of doing it.
And I think Tennessee gets like thirty five hundred tickets.
That's it. That's crazy. So think about that. If Ohio State,
if Buckeye Nation shows out the way they can, you're
to have like ninety eight thousand Buckeyes fans. If you
think about that home field environment, which is just ridiculous,

(24:45):
it's unfortunate. If you have to play on the road,
like Penn State's going to be very much the same.
I know a few SMU guys and they're like, I
don't know, I'm sure if I'm going up there for
that one. It's just going to be such an overwhelming
home field advantage for a lot of those home two.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. It is
two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.
So we have the usuals in case you missed it.
Later this hour, we've got an FSR our IRN hour
two of the program, and we will close up shop
with Lee's leftovers. It's all yours here on this three
hour extravaganza up next here though, that's a hell of
a wave to make a return, Not really at all.

(25:22):
I'll explain why that is coming up right here on FSR.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
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Speaker 4 (25:41):
I walked slowly into the deep end of the pool, man,
That's all I say.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
What you mean, I never walked back? Keep that up.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
You're not getting Tomlly's this year.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
I mean I didn't get them last year.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
What are you talking? I brought him in.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady in, Jonas NOx with you. Yeah, so
I brought in a bag of Tamali's, but I think
you were either under the weather, so he didn't come
in studio and so Lee ended up taking them off. Okay,
Lee just walked out with a track Backroberto totally. You know,
just you know, abandoned us. You know, he's coordinating with

(26:20):
us right now. He's a Tamali fraud.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
I believe it when I see it.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
He might be uh making a special appearance.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I believe it when I see it.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I've been hit him with some really really harsh deals
on on the text message straight though. I don't mind, though, Yeah,
I mean he's given me so much smoke on air.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
So love Roberto though. Is he's still still sending the
same text messages? Yeah, not much has changed. No, nothing
is still.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Kind of concerning that he drives your kids around on
a bus.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
The same exact website that was used back throughout COVID
and everything else, And that's up there. It is.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
By the way, I think he's the only one that's
still using that one.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Is he's the only person that's still you know, we're like, yeah, dude,
we see it. San fran Chronicle.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yes, man, he's just what's wrong with you? What about
Kirk Cousins. You love Kirk Cousins. You love Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
The love about him as a person.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Change, Yeah, the return to Minnesota return? Man, is he
not playing well right now? That is it's actually disappointing.
And I'm trying to think, is it is four weeks
just a rut, or is four weeks following what went
down last year?

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Is it the yips everybody was talking about after he
got hit his game went away?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Is it the yips?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I mean, but you remember he had that great performance
on Thursday night earlier, started off well in this game
and then just continues to turn the ball over and
not throw touchdowns. And I'm so sick of the Atlanta Falcons.
I'm done with them. Burn me again. I just keep
it within six, dude, Like that's not too much to ask.

(28:10):
Keep it within six and then it was just a meltdown. Meanwhile,
Sam Darnold's out there dealing probably best game of the
season for him, and a Minnesota still lurking for that
one spot.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
His touchdown passed to Jefferson, the one where I don't
know how the heck you, but that was ridiculous. It
look good.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
He looked like a young boy out there when he
was running on that one.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And then let it go. I mean, slang that thing. Hey, listen.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I know we were talking last week like can uh
Minnesota stand.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Up to Green Bay? Let alone?

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Uh Detroit and and I know we were like, well,
hold on, like Minnesota beat Green Bay. I'm not so
sure that Minnesota. I'm not so sure that Minnesota isn't
just as good as Detroit. After that game yesterday, watching
how they played, I'm not so sure that they're not

(29:05):
the best team in the North, even though they're behind
the Detroit Lions. I just I think that that's an
impressive team. They're a pretty impressive team right now, man.
And they have balance, they have a defense that can travel,
and I know they played at homelet yesterday, but I

(29:27):
just think that they could be in my estimation, they
could be the most dangerous team that people may not
be talking about outside of Detroit and Philly. They may
be the most dangerous team in the NFC.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
They play each other week eighteen.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Now, they might be in trouble. Man. I think Minnesota
and Pittsburgh maybe a little different, but I'd say this
year have a couple things in common. They're two really
good teams through what we've seen so far in the
regular season. I think their defense is the most consistent piece,
but they have quarterbacks who are playing that at a

(30:05):
really high level that I think there's people who aren't
really believers. If you look at the AFC playoff picture,
it's your usual suspects, right. It's it's Lamar, it's Patrick,
it's Josh Allen. It's like those three teams and largely
those three quarterbacks, you all feel confident. I'm telling you,
Man Russell's played really, really well since he's takeover as starter.

(30:27):
But all people want to believe is that now he's
washed or he can't get it done because of what
we saw in Denver a couple of years ago. It's like, well,
last year is actually pretty good, and you know he's
doing with an injury coming into this season and you're like, well,
wait a second, So he had one bad year in
Denver and we just kind of wrote him off for that.
Now Donald's path's different, but this also was like a

(30:49):
top five pick as far as his talent, what he's
capable of, and he's finally in this situation where there stability,
a good play caller, a superstar wide receiver, and he
doesn't have to win and put that team on his
back every time, but he showcases the ability to do
so making plays. But I think both those teams like
when you compare them to the other playoff teams right
now you look at me and they're like, ah, yeah,

(31:11):
they're they're having a great regular season. I don't know
what they can do in the playoffs. They both kind
of fall in that category in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
I just think when you look at Pittsburgh, if their
defense is like if TJ.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Watt is healthy.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
And now you add the addition to high Smith and
all those guys, man, that's they got a special group
on on defense. Secondary does well, little baby Joey Porter
they do, they do well. But I think I like
now that you have Russ being able to, you know,

(31:45):
take the top off of the defenses with with pickings
and and then he's able to attack the center of
the field with friar move, It's now rejuvenated Najee Harris's career.
I mean, he's now the effective back they've been looking
for since they've drafted him. And so the balance with

(32:06):
with Pittsburgh, I think is what makes them such a
dangerous team and a formidable foe toever whoever they're going
to play. When I look at you know, what's going
on with with Minnesota, you know, and and what they
have going on their receiving corps is is there. It's

(32:27):
just ignorant. It's an ignorant corps man. And and what
Sam Darnold has been able to do, you know, having
having the confidence to put the ball up there to
what I believe is I mean ARGUEAB believe the best
maybe receiving corps you know in the league. Now I

(32:47):
have to have to say, and this is wild to say,
but if you got Cooper Cup and you got your
boy Hohoka Nakua, you know who'll be smoking them out there?
Put the put the the cole on top and he
smoked you. You got Hookinnakua in and Cup out there.
That might be the best tandem of receivers in the NFL.

(33:09):
Was supposed to probably be Smith and aj Brown maybe
in Philly. But I just think that you see so
many good looking offensive sets, so many tandems and combos in.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
This year's league.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
I'm pretty excited about what I'm watching. And I think
the excitement is based off of the fact that you
do have offenses that can really really do some special things.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Man.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
And I think that Pittsburgh, while I'll eat my words
and say I ain't think that Russell Wilson was supposed
to be in Pittsburgh. Didn't think he was a Pittsburgh
type of player. I'm always able to eat my words
like I was wrong. He's the difference. He has been
the difference in that team. So they would be very dangerous.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Man.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
They cooled off a very very hot h Jameis Winston
and Cleveland Browns cooled them off a little bit.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I mean, you know, like, why don't you put your
money where your mouth is and get yourself a danger
which next time you're at Primanny's, at Peman's, go get
you one of them. By the way, I if pure,
pure hypothetical, if Pittsburgh and Minnesota meeting the Super Bowl,
who do you guys like in that matchup? Because I
got some numbers for you. That's some odds.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
So I mean obviously Pittsburgh because the history, and even
Russell because he's won a Super Bowl, he's been to
a couple like that. I think matters in a big way.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Eighty to one. DraftKings paying for that matchup to happen
that result eighty to one.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
It's crazy too because they're both playing really well right now.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Minnesota to be Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl fifty five
to one.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Wait Pittsburgh to be Minnesota's eighty to one. Yep, damn.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
I thought it would be the other way, right, I
thought it would be too, but more optimistic on Minnesota
in that matchup.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Apparently they're good, man, they are really. Flores should be
a head coaching candidate. Man. I mean, I just he's
done such an amazing job in Minnesota defense. And I mean,
don't I don't know again with the lawsuit and you
know what he what he made the accusations of back
in Miami, but he's done an unbelievable job as their

(35:19):
defensive coordinator. He it really does warrant someone looking at
him and say, I can I could do something with
this guy. Now, you got to figure out the quarterback spot.
You know that that would be a question I'd have
for him because two was ballin right now and you
kind of wrote it the guy off. So did you
learn your lesson? Do we figure this out? Like you're
looking at Sam Darnold playing really well in Minnesota and

(35:42):
a lot of people wrote him off, Like what have
you learned from that experience? Because that's gonna be another
key question or key component of any interview involving Brian
Flores for a head coaching job. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I mean, it's just it's almost like Brian Flores is
the burner of coaching candidates.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Coming out of this saying, hey man, you know what
the best offense is certainly a good defense.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1 (36:38):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe he Sports Radio, Yeah,
I've heard a good thing, oh man. Coming up next year, though,
we are going to tell you about how somebody has
made a return. Somebody in the world of sports has
made a return. Their reputation was damaged, but not anymore.
We'll get into that for you here on FSR.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
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Speaker 1 (37:06):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in the year, Hey, he.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Shouts out to my man Man Ta teo man what
man Ti? Yeah, that was pretty cool meeting him.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
No, whenever you meet one of the goats, you know,
that's pretty cool. At my position, that is one of
the goats at night.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Do you win the buckets too?

Speaker 4 (37:31):
I'm certain he won every award that was possible for
a player to win.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Who's that for the Heisman that year? By the way,
So he's a buckets winner? All right?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Sweet?

Speaker 1 (37:44):
All right? So we are going to have a discussion
about one team who just continues to figure it out
in the NFL at the most critical moments. That will
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(38:05):
the air.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Good thing.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
The guys are here to bring you in case you Misseda.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
For that, we turn it over to our executive producer,
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Speaker 6 (38:20):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning Brady, Good
morning LeVar.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Hey, guys.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
In case you missed this, a new record contract in
the world of sports. One Soto is moving across Tilly Hey, Brady,
from the Yankees to the Mets. He has signed a
fifteen year, seven hundred and sixty five million dollar contracts.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
It's a lot of money agreed.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
By the way, I have people that were laughing at
Scott Boris like his time has passed. He's not going
to be able to get his guys long term deals.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
He's done some really big deals, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
So Aaron Judge is their best player. The Yankees gave
him three hundred and sixty million. They were offering once
Sokoto seven sixty See, you were going to give him
four hundred million dollars more, and he took the extra
five million and went over to New York to play
with them, or stay in town and go play with
the Mets. And it's not deferred. So this isn't like

(39:15):
the Otani contract. It's wild man, seven hundred and sixty
five million dollars.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
I mean a couple of coins. Man, Well you gonna
do with all that? When they say, you know, the
old send, don't spend it all in one place, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
If he goes broke, should he like, should you go
to prison? No time?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
How do you go? It's like brewsters millions. If you
really want to spend that much money, man, you can.
I mean there's a lot of things you could buy
right away, private planes and all that. You get one
of those robots that elon muskas, yeah, optimists whatever, Yeah,
get a few of those. Have those things, just walk
around everywhere. You don't even need to have a companion
if you have that, if you know what I mean,
Oh jeez, okay.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I mean it's a sad Yeah. You want somebody who's
in it for the right reasons, that's correct.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Good for you want
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