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December 13, 2024 40 mins

De’Vondre Campbell refuses to go in the game for the Niners but does he have worthy gripe? Antonio Pierce’s future is murkier than ever. TheMMQB’s Albert Breer talks flag-planting, Belichicks’s new gig and everything NFL. Plus, Lee’s Leftover and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:34):
Coming ready, come on, come on, but the words won't
come out. I'm on Jonas, come on here, here it
comes here we get Jonas. Oh, come on, Jonas?

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (00:55):
Is this the rocky beat? No, it's not rock You
sure it's not rocky? No, it's not rocky. That's not
the rocky theme song that that's inspired by?

Speaker 7 (01:07):
No, most on which one? Which one is the other one?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
They were close?

Speaker 7 (01:16):
The other one is? Hold on?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
What's the other one? I know every rocky song? What's
the other one?

Speaker 7 (01:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hey, by the way, you're coming on?

Speaker 8 (01:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:26):
Sure, yeah, I can't wait to talk to Breer.

Speaker 7 (01:30):
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Speaker 6 (01:49):
Hell yeah, trying to find this rock all right, it's
I think it's Going the Distance. I'm almost positive Going
the Distance is where that song was inspired.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
By, Lorena. Can you pull Going the Distance up the
rocky soundtrack, the rocky rocky type in rocky soundtrack, Going
the Distance, It's not. It is not And if it were, Yeah, no,
that is that is not the same beating.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
No, not even not even.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
By the way, Ais told us that no, Going the
Distance did not inspire Eminem to write that song.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I can't see where you're going with it, Jonas, because
of the build up of it. I can see where
you're going that part right there, But that's not.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Not I mean it was stolen by yeah now what
that one was a song called Victory with buster rhymes.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I believe there is also someone that named Diddy. That's
part of it.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I believe, yeah, yeah, that and it is that Diddy.
By the way, Yeah, Yeah, that same guy, the same
one that we were talking about earlier, the guy with
Lebron James. You know, Kobe was talking about Kobe what
is his name? Who the uf Kobe Covington, that's it.

(03:10):
It's I mean, John's is supposed to be the UFC expert.

Speaker 8 (03:13):
Right.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
We can always get Ariel on here, Ariel Arieljwane. Yeah,
he used to come on my show every week. What
he big now? Huh yeah, Jones.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
He did the the Tyson, the Tyson scrimmage with what's
his name?

Speaker 6 (03:34):
Are you gonna call that a scrimmage?

Speaker 7 (03:36):
Yeah, it was a little.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's the best way I describing it.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
A little scrimmage, little spring game riverside.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, the scrimmage. That's well done.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
Made a lot of money for a scrub made a
whole lot of money, all right.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
So we talked about the I mean whatever you want
to call that. Last night a big win to Jams.
By the way, I would like to say this about
the Rams. That's a massive win for them. Short week
against the boogeyman in the division that's had your number
all these years. Off a big win over the Buffalo Bills,
the Rams get to the postseason the way Stafford can

(04:20):
sling it and the way that defense is playing a
little bit.

Speaker 7 (04:24):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Also, it's just he's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, and I
know we know that, but like it's nice.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
To be reminded of it. And the way they find
ways of just getting him open. It's it's incredible.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
He's not not afraid of contact either. No, yeah, no,
he gets lit.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Up all that.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
He'll bring that ish right into your living room. He
has no problem doing it, all right.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
So I'm looking at some context the deve Andre Campbell
he'll refusing to go back in. Yeah, let me ask
you guys. This him not wanting to go in and
getting upset and walking off maybe connected to the fact
that he's been starting all season long. He was starting,

(05:12):
and then what is a green law? I think that
he came back off of ir and and played and
well he didn't want to go in after that, And
could the idea of it be, you know, he felt
disrespected by the fact that he's had to start all
season long, and you know, the starter comes back and

(05:36):
takes his position, and at what point in time that
they wanted to put him in he didn't want to.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
He felt disrespected? All right?

Speaker 6 (05:45):
Do you feel disrespected when we fill in for Dan
Patrick of the Herd and then when they come back
from vacation, we're not filling in for them.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Well, I mean we're not filling in for them. If
you're filling in, you're filling in, you know what I mean? Yeah,
I mean that should be the way he looked at it.
I should be I was filling in. But I mean,
is there a chance that in his mind he's like, look,
we're in week what like week eighteen or something seventeen.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
Something like that, not quite you know, we're close.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
We're like three games away from the end, you know
what I mean, Like he's played all year. Now, I'm
not saying that's that should be, you know, justification for
walking off the sideline or not going into the game.
But I ain't saying that. I wouldn't understand why he

(06:37):
wouldn't be upset about it. Like they tried to put
him in in the third quarter. What are the premises,
what's the premise of what you tried to put him
back in? Did you feel like Greenlaw.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Hit his his his play count or knee flared up,
His knee flared up.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
He has to come out and.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
There was another injury. They needed him right now. To me,
a teammate is a teammate, like I'm gonna be ready
to ride, I'm not. I'm not going to be mad
at my teammates for getting hurt and not being able
to play, and I'm gonna always be a good teammate
to my team. But with that being said, everybody doesn't

(07:15):
think that way. Everybody doesn't look at it as Okay,
you know, this is all about team, team, team. Some
people are looking at it as this is this is
my job, you know, and if you're if you're taking
me away from doing my job that I've been doing
all year long, and now you want to use me again, Like.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
I can't make it make sense. I'm so I'm trying
to make it make sense in my head for him.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
You would never do that.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
I would never do that. I would never do it.
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know, within context, you gotta you gotta play me now.
So all of a sudden, it's like you're you need
me now, huh, Like you didn't think you need me
at the beginning of this game because you got green
Law back, like you but now.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
You need me.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
You know, it's kind of like you know, I don't know.
You get an opportunity to play in the National Football League,
and you get an opportunity to make the type of
cash that any of them make from from minimum wage
to the highest of the highest paid. The bottom line
is you get an opportunity to work in the National

(08:30):
Football League. I think you take full advantage of it,
not only from the financial aspect of it and the games,
but also the end roads that you can create for
yourself and so many different different categories. Again, a lot
of people talk about what you do post career. I
always felt like what I did during my career, the

(08:52):
people I met, the way we interacted with one another,
was setting the stage in essence for me to be
able to I was interviewing for what it was I
would want to do after I was done with the game,
with the sport of football.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
So Devondre Campbell was an All Pro, But from now forward,
when you say the name Devondre Campbell, this is what
you're going to think of, Not the fact that he
was the best at his position one year in the NFL,
or that he played almost a decade in the league.
Now this is what the label's going to be because
of this, and because it played out on a standalone
stage where everybody saw it and now they're talking about it.

(09:26):
And then Lee was saying that when he was with
the Packers, did he pull the same stunt with Green
Bay or just not kind of bail out early or
something like that.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
There was something you could tell behind the scenes that
just wasn't Something was brewing behind the scenes that just
didn't feel right.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
He wanted out.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
I think he requested a trade or a mutual it
was a mutual party.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, well, I don't think there's any possible way to
justify it other than if that's the decision that you
were making, then why did you even what? Why did
you allow yourself to even dress for the game? Is
what I would ask. You knew that Greenlaw was going
to start, if that was how you felt, so you

(10:10):
were just prepared to go stand or play play special teams,
stand on the sideline during the game. What what exactly
is your thought process going into the game Because you
were not starting, but you dressed, You were there, you
were on the sideline, you dressed.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
If you dressed you that means that's it to me.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
You unless they told him you're going to play, You're
gonna play a lot more. They told him something, they
promised him something that didn't happen, Like, I don't maybe
that's possible, but going into it, if you had an
issue with how it was handled, you not being the
starter anymore, him being the starter now, then you come

(10:52):
to that conclusion before you get to the game, like
I'm not dressing. Let alone, you're not going to put
me in. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to go in.
It's the third quarter. I don't think I'm going to
go in. Let them know that during the week, like, oh,
this is how you treat me. I don't think I'm
going to dress in fact, you know what, I don't
even think I'm going to come to the stadium. I

(11:14):
would assume that that would be the best way to
handle it, not you know, making a spectacle of it
for yourself.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
I wonder if he made the decision before the game,
Oh okay, now he's back. You know what if they
go to me, I'm not coming in and they just
surprised him.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
In the middle of the third sounds like something you
do Jonas?

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Would you do that? Jonas?

Speaker 6 (11:35):
On this show? You're never on my own show, this show.
Who would come in for you? You would have a
sub and it wouldn't matter.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
There is nobody.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
There's nobody here.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
I mean we have left this showing that show. I
just left the.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Show during the show the other day. So, I mean,
it's not like anybody would care. But that's understandable. It's Vegas.
It's a long flight. Like, that's understandable. That do you
mean that's ten dollars?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh boy, that got passive aggressive, quick.

Speaker 7 (12:07):
Super passive aggressive. I mean you m yeah, Prisco, I
know it was fine. Yeah, Prisco.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
By the way, are we gonna give crap?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Is he coming on today? He wasn't.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Do you know he didn't even go to the game
last night.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
Wasn't he supposed to be on this?

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (12:23):
This first segment? No, No, it's next segment, next segment.
Yeah's next segment.

Speaker 7 (12:30):
You know?

Speaker 6 (12:30):
Do you like the LeVar was trying to trying to
defend h Camble and then mid mid flight you were like, yeah,
I'm sorry, I just can't defend him like I can't.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Well, that's the thing is, like we don't have to
talk about this.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
We have other Like, yeah, I can't make sense of it.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
We have we have other stuff to talk about.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yeah, like Antonio Pierce who feels like his days are
numbered based on but yeah, Mark Davis U and look,
Tom Brady's gonna have a lot of involvement. You know,
we got to you know, we'll figure out the quarterback situation,
then we'll address Antonio Pierce's future afterwards.

Speaker 7 (13:08):
Sike, it's never good.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Mike Brabel's name is being floated out there with the Raiders.
Is Tom Brady's connection there? So you know I hit
him up. He must be stressed out, man, because I
ain't hear back. Definitely let him know I was in
town there to give him a hug, talk through some
things he can I mean here back when I didn't

(13:33):
give him a quarterback, man, he was a dead man walking.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
Bro Let's be clear.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
And then you trade away Davante Adams. Then you trade
away Davonte Adams. You know it's like, come on, how
are you going to win? Brock Powers has been playing
really well, very nice pick. I mean, he's been legit.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
I think he's going to be even more legit when
he gets a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Some would say he should win Offensive Rookie of the year,
which I know we Yeah, everyone wants to kind of
camp on the side of like the quarterbacks between Jane
Daniels and bow Nicks and all that, Kleb. But he's
brock Power has been awesome.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah, bo Nicks is probably in the lead slightly in
my estimation, but Jaye and Daniels and I sit in
my estimation.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, Lvar, you have to understand Jonas is looking at betting.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
I know he is. I know he's looking at the
It's what he's basic. I'm sitting there looking at him.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I'm saying, think, Okay, I can I make a case
for brock Powers.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Go ahead, make a case.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, So they have what four more games?

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
And he's already got eighty seven receptions? Dude, he's gonna
set the record. M What's it's ridiculous?

Speaker 6 (14:46):
What's the tight end record for catches?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Tight end?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I'm saying, for like a rookie receiver, for like any
receiver with four games left, he's averaging almost seven catches
per game.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
That isn't impressive. I just don't think it's more impressive
than what those quarterbacks are doing, especially seeing the level
of difficulty in which it has taken in terms of
being able to be successful being a pass first off,
so pass first league.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Nikoua set the record at one hundred and five, and
he's on pace to break that.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
He's gonna blow pass out. Nicoua got Rookie of the Year, too,
didn't he.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, dude, Like he like he's
been crushing it, and I know the team's not necessarily winning.
But I don't know that the Rams was that in
twenty twenty three. What were the Rams wrecking twenty twenty three?
I don't think it was a very good that year.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Either, right, No, No, there's no playoffs. Yeah, so there's
no I mean there's you know there were ten and
seven that season. Did they go to the playoffs a
year they did it?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (15:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's right the first.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
I mean it feels like the Jadeen Daniels book was
already written weeks ago. But if you're talking about just consistently,
consistently through the season, which rookies had the best year,
that's hard to argue against Brock Bowers. Like the last
we saw bow Nicks on that Thursday night against Cleveland, Like, yeah,
he had that nice throw but he didn't have a
great game. I mean, they won the game. It was

(16:27):
a fun game to watch, but it wasn't like you look,
you looked at his numbers, and you know, a couple
of picks like Brock Bowers has been. I mean, if
he said if he's like breaking records as a rookie
tight end receiving records, you know you can get him
at twelve to one right now on DraftKings. You know,
if you're interested in throwing down a couple of bucks.
The pride of Napa Valley.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
By the way, I'm going with Jaden Daniels. I feel
I feel good about Jayden Daniels. I think he's going
to finish strong.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
By the way, and put to bed that whole You
were the jinks for them as well too.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
The mush Enough's enough, I mean I wasn't, so thank
you very much. Yeah, I will not claim that or
accept it.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
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We get asked them about Ohio State, we get asked
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Speaker 6 (17:48):
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Speaker 3 (18:00):
Right now.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Now, you know what I'm going to let you do.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
He is the man of the hour.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
Let you introduce Albert b.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Albert Breer, the star of Amazon's NFL on prime coverage
every Thursday night. He is the insider there. He is
a senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.
You can get him on x at Albert Breer and
he's got a lot of answering for some questions we
have about some of the decisions being made in the

(18:26):
state of Ohio when it comes to the Buckeyes. Maybe
what's happening, what's up guys doing?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I mean, I mean, come on, yeah, jump into it.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
What's your take? Come on, man, are you serious?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
They're trying to make planning a flag in the state
of Ohio a felony.

Speaker 8 (18:47):
Oh yeah, I mean that was trust me. I am
so against that politician doing that. Apparently I'm suspicious that
he is. This is like counterintelligence here, trying to make
us all it's bad. I don't I don't know one
Ohio state person. That's not an exaggeration. I don't know
one Ohio state person who would to support that, who

(19:12):
like would even compost touching that. No way, it's so idiotic,
so dumb, Like just please, but that's something they would do.
Don't don't lower.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Yourself to that something they would do. Wow, all right, Still, I.

Speaker 8 (19:32):
Mean I said this, I said this a million I
said I said this about the tunnel fight a few
years ago. Right, So, like I just being a big
ten guy, like I, if you a fight at in state.
Right that no, no, that you would get jumped or

(19:53):
somebody might suck a bunch you. If you get into
a fight at Michigan, your fear would be the guy
who started the fight would call the cops on you.
And that's exactly what the tunnel fight was, and that,
in fact is exactly what happened at the Horseship is
you know, they went the flag, they start to fight.
Are guy's going to finish it and make all the cops?

Speaker 7 (20:12):
Oh wow?

Speaker 8 (20:14):
Again, I'm sort of against what I'm not sort of
I'm fully against, but the but what this congressman's trying
to do or state center or whatever he is? All right,
how do you feel about it? As a resident of
the state.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I think it's the softest thing I've ever heard of.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
And I understand if you were to make a case
for like protecting law enforcement. But it's not like this
is that big of an issue. I mean, it's not like, hey,
there's flag planning going on all.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Of the state.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
We need to stop this otherwise we're putting our you know,
our police officers in harm's way. It's like, come on, dude,
like stop like this is this is all to get
attention this is what politicians do.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I can't stand it anyway.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I do want to ask you, though, because I feel
like I saw you at the House State Michigan game.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I made sure the entire section you were sitting in
knew you were a mush And now we have.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
The opportunity to see Ohio State host state home playoff
game versus Tennessee. Where are you at with the entire season,
just the result where we're heading right now?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Ryan Day the whole thing.

Speaker 8 (21:21):
I obviously frustrated with what happened, just because I don't
really understand running the ball right at their two best
players in that game. Yeah, it was played well enough,
and I feel bad for guys like Jack Sawyer, but
I mean I wouldn't say this and Ryan's defense like

(21:41):
generally they've corrected problems when they come up in the bath,
and I do think like this is going to be
a good chance for him to correct some of the
issues from that Michigan game. I haven't watched a lot
of Tennessee from from when I understand they're built sort
of like Michigan in a lot of ways, and so
you know, we'll see it now, we'll see whether or not,

(22:04):
you know, you've learned, and you know, you start to
take advantage to the matches you have on the perimeter
a little bit, maybe play a little more tempo. You know,
there's the same opportunity to toll them for what happened
against Michigan as there was two years ago. And you know,
I think if they come out and they play like
they did two years ago, coming out of the Michigan game,

(22:24):
and they'll be justifying they got a chance to win
the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
M ab the Bill Belichick news to North Carolina. What
serious interest was there in him this year from NFL
teams any conversation. I know there's three current teams that
had openings, But was this about him not getting any
love from the NFL or did he just see this
as an opportunity to sort of bridge the job to

(22:50):
his son later on.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
I think it's somewhere in the middle of like whether
there'll be interested in the NFL and what his interest
in the NFL would be. You know, like I think
not so much like I'm not going to get an
offer to go coach anywhere. I think it was. I'm
not sure I'm going to get an offer to coach
on coach on my term and to do it my way,

(23:12):
you know. And I think that like that thought process
is the result of the last year for him. First
of all, it's going back to, you know, when he
got fired by the Patriots and the fact that only
one of the six teams that had openings other than
New England interviewed them. It's the way those things went
down in that one interview where it's like the bureaucracy

(23:33):
of the Falcons front office got him and wound up
eliminating him as a candidate, which I think confirmed his
worldview on some on the way a lot of teams operate.
Then he gets a thirty thousand foot view over the
last eleven months and she is the way that you know,
he feels at least a lot of teams are mismanaged.

(23:55):
And then the Jets' job comes open, the Saint's job
comes open, with their's jobs open, and I think the
realization starts to manifest for him that like man, there's
not going to be in all likelihood the type of
place that I feel like I can set it up
the way I need to set it up to go win. Meanwhile,

(24:16):
like as he and his people, the people around him
are studying the college game. They're seeing that that opportunity
money exist in college, and then they're seeing some NFL
elements being corporated into the college game, whether it's nil
is the salary cap or the transfer portalist free agency. So,
you know, I think it's you he's starting to go

(24:37):
through all of this. It was where am I going
to have the opportunity, the best opportunity to do things
my way? And I think over the last eleven months,
you know, he saw that maybe the best opportunity to
do things his way, maybe the only opportunity to truly
do things his way, was going to come in college.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
You know, I think that's so interesting to hear that perspective,
and I would agree with you, Ab, how much does
this impact moving forward?

Speaker 7 (25:06):
This now seemingly.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Could create a competition between a legitimate competition between pro
and college. I mean, this is as high profile a
higher as maybe ever in the history of college sports,
well college football. Of course, to bring in Bill Belichick
as your head coach, knowing that this is a guy

(25:29):
who's never coached at the college level, taking this and
saying he can do it the way he would want
to do it in college, I mean that's got to
set a tremendously large precedence in terms of how you're
moving forward with looking at your own job opportunities. If
if you're a pro.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
Coach, I mean, I think really it's like any dy
else LaVar, like where a riot on is whether or
not at work right. Because it works, than you'll have
a team to steal a lot of college programs trying
to copycat it. And you know, there aren't a lot
of high profile college openings this year. My understanding is

(26:12):
they're probably will be next year. Now I don't cover
college football, so I don't I don't know exactly which
sties will be, but it sounds like there's a good
chance there'll be some pretty high profile openings next year.
And yeah, I mean if this works, and like Bill
proofs that, like they're able to work the transfer portal

(26:32):
more effectively and work on IL more efficiently, if you
do have that NFL experience, then I think there will
certainly be more college programs that are willing to pay
top dollar being coaches from the NFL. And like, conversely,
if Bill can do things his way, he doesn't need
to go on the road to recruit and he can

(26:53):
hire which I know is his plan. He can hire
a whole recruiting staff to basically handle that for him.
A lot of his coaches just coach well then, like
I think that that makes those jobs more attracted to
pro guys, you know. So you know, I think it's
gonna be fascinating because I think Bill said do things
a little bit differently the way he just said it.

(27:14):
That's gonna be a little different. You know, it could
work both ways, where the success of North Carolina could
attract college college programs so look at NFL coaches, and
then could entice NFL coaches to look at college jobs.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, I mean it's gonna be fascinating to see how
it works because and I said this earlier. You know
Dion and how he changed from year one to year two,
and what he said he needed was like he did
a more NFL coaches, more NFL style program.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's what he's running with the portal.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
And now you see Bill Belichick, who spent time at
Washington where his sun was defensive coordinator, and kind of
seeing the landscape going, wait a second, we could do
this at the college level and probably have more autonomy
and not have to deal with an owner, which leads.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
Me to this question.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
There's going to be a lot of openings.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
It feels like there's already a decent amount now, but
more once the season ends.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
For the NFL. He's so close to Schulea's record. Why not?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Wait, I mean, is there a sense I saw a
report that maybe there weren't going to be that many
teams looking at him or wanting to give him that
opportunity to coach with some openings.

Speaker 8 (28:22):
Frady, I think he just wants to coach, and I
think it's genuine, and I think that's proved it, you know,
and I think, like you know, it's a dull burden
the hand thing, right, like he he had an opportunity
to coach right in front of him, and unfortunately the
hiiring cycles through a two levels who sport don't match up.
So you know, if he waits a month, then there's

(28:45):
a chance, you know, there's no job for him in
the NFL. And if there's no job for him in
the NFL, that that one only he feels comfortable to
take gates, Well, then you know, then he's sitting out
another year. And I don't think he wanted to do that.
And so, like I think looking at it, like just logistically,
how this sets up. Now he now he gets to

(29:06):
lock in and he's coaching next year. And because of
a buyout situation, if in the year or two the
perfect NFL job comes along and they want him and
they're gonna let him do it his way, well you know,
he can revisit it then, but at the very least,
for now he's coaching. He's trying something new, and he's
energized by that. So I think so much of it

(29:26):
is motivated just because he just flat out wants to coach,
you know, but that was his number one day and
so now I'll get the chance to coach, and you know,
I think it's what he's been focused on really for
the last few months, was finding an opportunity to coach again,
you know. Again, like I wouldn't completely rule out the
idea that you know, in a year or two he

(29:49):
revisits the NFL thing, but you know, he's certainly focused
on ongoing and when he go to Caroll.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Now Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Amazon,
NFL on Prime Insider, also with the mmqb AB. I
heard you talk a little bit last night after the
game about the situation in Philly involving A. J. Brown
and Jalen Hurts. What where does that stand? Because I
think you were making the point that Jalen Hurts is

(30:16):
kind of an interesting one to deal with and has
been since he's been there in Philly.

Speaker 8 (30:21):
Yeah, so, like his personality is interesting. He's I don't
know that he's necessarily the kind of guy who's gonna
put his arm around his teammate. He' said that type
of quarterback in like like hey come on, buddy, or
gonna go out of his way to play eight people.
He's just kind of stoic, and you know, I like,
I don't think he has the prototype quarterback personality. You know,

(30:46):
he's not a five viper. And so I think like
that led to some friction with the coaching staff last year,
and I think they learned how to manage it. And
I think now that's they used some friction with him
and A. J. Brown. I mean that's interesting because he
and AJ had an existing relationship when AJ got to
Philly a couple of years ago. And then I think,

(31:08):
you guys know, it's like a lot different having a
relationship with somebody who might see it handful of times
a year versus somebody you got to see every day,
you know, and so you know, I think they feel
confident that they're going to be able to manage this.
But I think it's part of the deal now with
with Jalen Hurts and who he is and who he's

(31:29):
always did. So I think that that piece of the
whole thing is I think I think the Eagles have
come to accept that's what they signed up with Hurts,
and I'm certainly to hit them in the face a
little bit last year and this year, it's, you know,
put this challenge in front of them that I feel
like they're confident they can deal with.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
We're heading down the stretch, the home stretch of the season,
and how much how important is the rest of this
this season, the rest of this schedule for Aaron Rodgers
and for the New York Jets. What what from your
you know, everything you hear or everything that you're covering,

(32:12):
How how important are these games for Aaron Rodgers, well
for the Jets.

Speaker 8 (32:17):
I mean, I don't know, it's gonna make much difference.
You know, they're gonna be hiring people from the outside.
It's gonna be side big chas to that organization, uh
come to Antuary. So I don't know it's gonna change
too much for the for the franchise to sell. I
mean I think for Aaron, I think his experience is
gonna color his decision making, you know, like what kind

(32:38):
of experiences you have the last month the season fighting football.
But he's still enjoyed because he still want to do it.
Like I I remember having this conversation with him, uh,
you know, in the summer, and you know, he and
I were talking about like his appreciation for the sport.
He told me then like going to the tourn Achilles
gave him a heightened kind of love for the game,

(33:01):
and he's an appreciation for the game. And you know,
like he said to me is like I was like
focused so much over the years on like being seen
as more than just a football player. I never really
appreciate just being a football player. And so I'd be
interested to know like where he stans with that right now,
you know, and whether or not he wants to go

(33:22):
through it off season to get ready to play again,
you know, at forty one years old. I don't know
the answer for that, but I certainly think the experience
that he has to seem over the next month could
affect that, you know, and then obviously how he plays
is going to affect how attractive he is the Jets
and the other team in twenty twenty five. So I

(33:43):
think there's a lot like they could go. There's a
lot of things that could materialize that could affect the
future of Baron Rodgers over the next four weeks. That's
for the franchisees. Tho, I don't think the first question
is going to changed.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
He's Albert Breer, Amazon, NFL on Prime Insider, Senior nflill
Port Order lead content strategist at the m m QB.
Get him on x at. Albert Breer always appreciated AB.
We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 8 (34:08):
All right, thanks for my boy, Jordan. Game here with.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
You guys sounded great.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Sound Yeah, I was gonna say, Albert, right, Albert, I
told him about your immune system and how you've got
one of the weaker immune systems or anything.

Speaker 7 (34:21):
I know.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
So I don't know.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
It seems like I held up better than you out.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
There and Columbus so Jesus, well, yeah, you were also drunk,
so it helps. Oh dang, I don't bubble. I don't
know what you mean held up.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I mean you were in disbelief, you were in shock,
You're you were going through all sorts of emotions.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
So I'm not really sure how to take that.

Speaker 8 (34:44):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. If I I
don't know what I said after the game is to
be repeated. But yeah, I was not That was not
a good that was not in a good place. I
held up really well.

Speaker 7 (34:56):
Yeah, well you.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Have to suit either, dude. I mean it's like, that's true.

Speaker 8 (35:01):
That's true. But I didn't have a heater like on
my under my under a table for me either.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Hey, buddy, we didn't either. Like, I don't know if
the people think there's a heater under there. You don't
have enough electrics in the stadium to do something like that. No, really, yes, really,
there's no heater, dude. It's just a set.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Oh I think I had on two or three.

Speaker 8 (35:29):
Okay, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's more than me.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
All right, Well, ab we appreciate it, and again we'll
do it again next week and have some fun.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
Buddy.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
We're joining us here on Fox Sports Radio coming up
next here though, from the tiraq dot Com Studios. We're
gonna close up shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
Here at FSR.

Speaker 9 (35:51):
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Speaker 1 (36:23):
I did fail to mention something I know we want
to get into it. I did fail to mention this.
So last night I go to a dinner and I'll
just be fully transparent. Usual when people come up and
they talk about the radio show, they're always like, oh man,
I love you guys like LaVar all the stuff. And

(36:43):
last night, oh, the guy comes up he goes, oh man,
I love Jonas, and I was like, oh awesome, man.
I was like yeah, and he started getting into it,
like and he wasn't just saying it like he he
knew about live bed Jesus. He was like, I like
his style, Like I follow him on on social media.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
I'm like, he does nothing like social media.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Well the photos that are out there where he's just
basically in black, you know, and when you meet someone
and they're like being I'm.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Like, oh yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
He's always got that leather jackets, like yeah, man, he's like,
I want to get one.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
Just like that.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
I was like, trust me, I was floored.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
In fact, I was next. I was standing next to
the meat wagon. I was like, we're gonna need two shots.
So immediately like, do you mind getting us a couple
of shots? After hearing that, so, I figured it's only appropriate, LeVar,
I take a shot both for you and I having
to hear that sort of information. Appreciate that you have
a big fan. All right, Uh, they're in Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Well I mean that's a shock, yes, kind of yeah,
that's that's basically my backyard. So of course, I mean
it's not not a stunt or whatsoever. I mean, I'm
big album now regret even telling you that what are
you talking about? But he didn't mention though he didn't
mention when he said live bet, he goes, yeah, he goes.
I actually always bet opposite because but it's still it's

(38:05):
maybe a ton of money.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
All right, Well there's that good.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
I can't wait till there's live sporting events on while
we're doing the show. So maybe li bet Jesus will
come back, make a couple of picks, get his reputation back.
All right, well, ty, thank you. I appreciate anybody listening,
even if you don't like me. I don't care, just
listening to the show. The Prince of Darkness dark dog.

(38:29):
That's you're the prince of darkness. I'm just dark skinned.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
All right?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
We actually have anything?

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Are you right?

Speaker 3 (38:42):
These might smell a little.

Speaker 9 (38:43):
Fun incredible, but they're still good time to find out
what's left.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
All right to lap Yeah, I was pretty happy that
you he killed some time for me because I really
don't have much. But I was at the bar last
night too, and then everyone was everyone was, uh, you know,
said hey to Bar, Hey to hay Jonas, Hey to
you Brady.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
But they're big fans of me.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
So what bar was that?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Champs do you mean, like when the bartenders are big
fans of you because you help you.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Know, No, the regulars that they're there college the regulars
shout out to Peter. Yeah he listens every uh every
third hour.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
What's up, dude?

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Leave bottom a new car.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
All right, have a down payment on a house.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
Yeah, they actually have a real uh leg lamp there. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
I mean at least you're keeping it clean during the
week still though, Thursdays are my cheap day.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Uh yeah, Hey guys, Happy Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
I hope you guys out there.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Oh god, that was all you had later Christmas?

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Please please get please show in please, oh god, oh god,
not the last.

Speaker 7 (39:58):
The laugh is back baby.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Oh all right, everybody, have a good weekend.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
What else there needs to be? Nothing else, nothing else
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