December 23, 2024 • 39 mins
Lions OC Ben Johnson seemingly shows off in an audition for the Bears job. The race for the No.1 pick in the Draft gets interesting. Plus, a brotherly squabble, cutting it close and licking the lid on the FSR IR.
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Tell us about that saving.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, all right, all right, all right, So was Ben
Johnson on yesterday for the Bears head coaching job because
he basically put a clown suit on the Bears with
whatever the hell that was the fake stumble and.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Fall and then that's what you know, and they both
tripped and stumbled. The back and the quarterback tripped and stumbled.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
That's how you practice it, that's what you do, That's
how you do it. Yeah. So we used to have
a play where it was a direct snap and the
quarterback you know, acts like he's jumping up to get
the ball and kind of turns and spins and then
the running back kind of turns to go get the
direct snap right, and then it kind of plunged through
in this case though, I mean, obviously they need to
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get the right look, but the levels to which they
schemed up the Chicago Bears in this case was just amazing.
So one golf from under center kind of spins, acts
like he rolls the ball out, fumbles it to the
running back. Right, was it Gibbs who went down like that?
So Gibbs kind of kind of you know, tucks and
(03:02):
turns and runs the coordination though, if you go back
and listen to the audio of the Detroit Lions sidelines
yelling ball ball ball fumble, ball fumble, just to try
to sell the Bears on it, where they froze just
enough to give Laporta a step and a window for
GoF to make the throw, which it looked like it
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was for a second. I was like, oh, please catch that,
because if you don't, it's gonna be all for or not.
But every single part of that play was it kind
of like here it is. I don't know if I'm
your number one candidate or not, but like this is
the kind of ingenuity that like we do over here,
like maybe if that's what you want for your head coach.
It sounds like they're between two candidates. Ben Johnson's won
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and Mike Vrabel's the other one. We'll see where ends
up going.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Jared Goff spoke after the game about the play and
apparently Ben Johnson was trying to get him to actually
fumble it. Let's take a list.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
What done it all week after?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
As the best you had brought it in the game? Actually,
he just what was the genesis of that?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
We did work on it all week, but we ran
it probably three or four times for the week, and
the genesis was that's a good play for for that scheme.
It is, but they're they're in tune with it on
defense that that is a good play and that it's
hard to it's hard to get that on them because
those linebackers are so dang good at seeing it develop.
So there at first it started on Monday with Ben
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asking me if he thought I could like actually fumble
on purpose and pick it back up. I was like,
I don't. I don't know about that, and that we
we kind of got off that pretty quickly and we're like,
let's just let's just pretend we're falling, or pretend I'm fumbling,
and but I'm holding onto the ball. And I think
the part that Gibbs where he dives really sells the play.
You know, I'm only doing half of it, but yeah,
it worked. It worked like a charm and was nice
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to score there.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Crazy really that I think.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I guess I wasn't really paying that close attention because
I saw it in real time and you thought he stumbled.
I just was like, I just thought he stumbled. I
wouldn't really like JA. I was watching multiple games though,
but I just and I don't. I don't watch games
with the sound on, so I didn't didn't even look
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at it that way.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I just want they wouldn't have helped you because they didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
They didn't confused films like oh man, I mean he
was wide open there.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Well, I was gonna say, like, it takes probably an
offensive guy because these are the things that we talk
about go through because think about it, like, defensive players
are always reactive, and so we're always trying to figure
out how we can act to get a certain reaction
out of them, because the reality is they're the better athletes.
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So if you can find ways of getting them to
react in a manner that gives your guys a step
that's all you need and then you got to execute
the rest of it. So it could be a fake
fumble like that, it could be like the old you know,
fall down, oh crap screen, you know, or the tight
end throwback that that teams run all the time. There's
all sorts of different things that we try to do
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essentially kind of trick the defense, and it has a
lot to do with just watching tape and seeing how
guys on defense react to certain things. Like I can
vividly remember us installing plays where typically like you have
a wide receiver run a double move and you're trying
to set up the cornerback. But when you play against
Ed Reid, we would have both sides do the double
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move because we knew Ed was gonna jump one of
the two. Like we might have a deep dig and
so we call like a pump, like we'd go up,
run a twenty yard dig act like he's running inside,
then release vertical. Then the other side we have him
run a comeback at like eighteen twenty yards, have him
do it more of a stutter go and release because
we knew Ed Reid, would we read one of those
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two and try to jump that, try to pick it off.
But if you had two, obviously you can't pick both.
And so you weren't even looking at the cornerback. You're
already assuming the cornerback's gonna bite up on the stutter
portion of it, or like that in pump portion.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Of That's their responsibility is that to do exactly that
and have help over top.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
But it was Ed who ultimately you were reading, and
Ed was the one that you were just saying, all right,
let him pick. I mean, you could look him one
way or another, but oftentimes, like it's a game within
the game where when you would look he knew he was,
you were trying to look him off, and so he'd
be trying to mess with you with the way he'd
align and then how he'd go about trying to jump
he route, and so at the end of the day
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you just kind of drop back, get get a sense
for where he was, and then try to throw opposite
but on a double move that was literally trying to
get a defender on either side of the field bite
up at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
How much time do you need for that and how
deep a ball is that when you do that.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
It all depends on where he's at right, Like, if
he keeps his depth, you gotta throw a flatter ball.
If he ends up biting on something like that, then
you got to really heave it downfield. Let him go
run because he can. You know, he was the type
that out of always you know, you know, turn his
hips and run and go make a play on the football.
So it was, but it was just funny. Like when
you sit in these these offensive meeting rooms, in particular
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quarterback rooms, where you're coming up with some of these ideas,
it's it's all literally born out of like watching a
defense and how they react to certain think well and
especially like you if you look at Chicago's linebackers, like
those guys try to be more a little flat, fast flow.
So anytime a defense really flows to the football fast
and is good in pursuit, you're always trying to find
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a way of getting misdirection. You're always trying to find
a way of slowing them down. And that's why, like,
for example, you're going up against like Miles Garrett for example,
the Cleveland Browns, people will sit there and be like, well,
how are we gonna match him up, how we're gonna
block him and pass for how we're gonna block him
and run blocking, And oftentimes you just go, we're not,
like we're gonna do a zone read to his side,
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and we're gonna find a way of reading him and
to force him to kind of pick or choose the
quarterback or the running back or put him in some
sort of conflict so he can't play as fast. Because
that's like, we don't have a great matchup against him,
So what do you do? You try to find ways
of eliminating him going up against the guy who's not
gonna be able to win that battle, right, And that's
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oftentimes again how you kind of get some of this
scheme that we talk about in a lot of the
offensive rooms when you look on matchups.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I mean, he spoiled a really fun play against a
team he didn't need to use that play against was
there atrocious? They should actually hire eber flus back to
be their defensive coordinator for the remainder of the season
because they are terrible on defense. Like Caleb Williams is
not the problem, like he is.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
He's actually played really well.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, like he slitted their problem, Like they got real
issues there, and I don't know if Ben Johnson is
going to be able to fix that, Like you're talking
about Dan Quinn and what he's done in the organization.
That's why I feel like Vrabel might be the better get.
But I just find I don't know if Rabel would
turn down the opportunity to want to join Tom Brady
in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So it just man, the bears are bad. You know,
That's how relationships go bad. Though they say you shouldn't
do business with family, doesn't It doesn't go well too often.
You know, if it goes as well, can you My
brother fired me, so I know if it doesn't go well,
can you still be cool with one another?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You know, when did you and your brother work together?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
He was the bar manager at this place called Cisco's And.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, I both went there.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Huh. I was used the bar boy was the bar back.
I was a bus boy. I hadn't gotten to that
level yet.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And you they caught you in the back eating half
chewed on cheeseburgers.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I told him I was gonna probably end up leaving
because I was gonna take a telemarketing job that paid
a little bit more, and.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
He said so, So you're trying to gain a ten
dollars fine right now, because that's passive aggressive what you're
doing right now talking about you're basically trying to say that,
Well you were going to leave, but he fired you
before you left.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, yeah, that's what I was trying to explain. Yeah, like, no,
I don't like that. Well, just can I finish the story?
Let him fire you, all right, Just let me finish
the story, fire you. So I was getting ready to
tell him, like, hey, I'm going to be taking the
Stellar marketing job, and so you know I'm probably gonna
well you're not doing it until you put in your
two weeks. Well, no, I was planning I'm putting in
my two weeks. He said, yeah, yeah, but like you
(11:08):
need to officially put in your two weeks. And he
started really busting my balls because he was like kind
of fought to get me the job. I was like, well, yeah, mom,
I'm gonna put in it. And then I just got
mouthy and said, well listen, if I want to walk
out right now, walk out right now. He goes, no, No,
in fact, don't put you two weeks in. It's all good.
You're fired. He said, give me your apron. So I
took my apron right in front of my mom too.
(11:32):
My Mom's like, oh god, And she just didn't even
step in. She went outside. She didn't want any part
of it.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Did joh fight?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
No, Me and my brother would have fought whichever side
it would have been on whether I did the firing
or was getting fired. We would have fought over over like,
you're not going to fire me like that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
By the way, that two weeks of wage.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Why didn't you just come back? Why didn't you tell
him I quit? You can't fire me. I'm already I quit.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Because I was slow on the draw. Oh, I mean
you see it every but.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
As soon as he.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But why But why wouldn't you just tell him after
he told you? Even after because even if you get shot,
if he didn't shoot you in the head, you still
got an opportunity to shoot him back. Yeah, but like
that still would have hurt him, even though he said
I fire you, and that like would have gave him
like the one up. If you'd have said you can't
fire me. It was it was after the bell, like
it didn't count. Yeah, but you still could do it.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
He won.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It would have hurt his feelings because because you could
look at it this way, you could have been pleading
for him, like, no, maybe I'm not going to take
the job, maybe I'm gonna keep this one, like I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You could have like took it out.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
You could have took it all back and then you
steered it in the in the direction.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, I'm just saying you could have took it all
back and begged for your job back, and then it
would have been like it never happened.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Goat that two weeks of wages was like really critical
at that point, was it? Oh my god, I needed
it like blood.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
But you were out. He literally really fired. He took
your apron and everything.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I didn't even get to keep the apron.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
He took your apron.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Like I would to. I had to buy like a
Hawaiian shirt, white jeans for this job. And and I'm like, yeah,
so I went to Miller's out post and bought some
anchor blue white jeans for this job and this Hawaiian
shirt like a like a Marshall's or a Mervin somewhere.
And then I had to like stare at that in
(13:19):
my closet as a reminder of your brother fired you.
You didn't even get the chance to quit. He fired
your ass, but you were quitting. So really, in fact,
he wasn't firing you out of him needing to, or
he fired you because you made it a necessity to
fire you because you weren't going to do it the
right way. Yeah, I mean it's on me. I should
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have should have been I should have been quick.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That tells me a lot about you, just saying, man,
why could you just do it the right way?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Why would you call the problem too?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, See the problem with what younger brothers is you
guys take advantage of the and the love that's extended
to you from your older siblings. No, it's not your
spoiled brats. That's a spoiler. You even said your mom
was present when it took place. You're a spoiled dude. No,
it's not spoiled.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I was letting him know, like, hey, I'm you know fact,
I was giving you the heads up I'm probably gonna
be going to uh, you know, to another place, and
they give me.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
After he put himself on the line to get you
the job in the first place. Business transaction like I'm
out of here. Yeah, I didn't have a contract. I
would have beat your ass mom.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Listen, Probably Mom.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Wouldn't have been able to hold back that ass whipping.
I would have gat I put myself on the line
to work to get you the job.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Leave your hostile. He's more professional, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, but were you'll at the job?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
No, we're at home? Okay, So why I got to
be professional at the crib. I'm gonna beat your ass.
I mean, listen, we brothers at the crib. I'm gonna
be professional in the spot, be like, hello, Jonas, how
are you doing?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think I'm going to need your your your apron back?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, I think he was on his way to work,
which is the perfect time to drop the news on him.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You're man, you got you got man?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Is what it is.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
This is uh got to be a top ten all
time worst segment we've ever done.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah, easy, easy, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I think it's pretty Yeah, I think it's pretty Uh,
I think it's pretty relevant.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Conversation was pretty relevant.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Listen to Jonas talk about his uh how he quit.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I don't know it's going to be it's going to
be grilled on it. Blame LeVar. It's just yeah, I
didn't do I was interested. I was very interested. Thank you,
Thank you. So so that'll wrap up your coverage of
Ben Johnson's interview. Props even took you down that road anyway,
and Brady and Mike Mike Rabel. Yeah, working together, family,
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working together.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, that was what took Jonas there. Yeah, he had
to mention that.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, you said family, I said, yeah, I've been there,
fire happens, You're still friends, Yeah, of course. Alright, well
then that should be okay, Sunset Terras, Yeah that's right.
What up, Sunset You don't work there though yourself, Well,
it's not my restaurant.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
What he ever hire?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
You can't you can't say it, and then like say
what up at the same time, you know what I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Saying, Okay, I don't know the rules, man, I mean,
I'm just kidding. I'm trying to get out of this,
you know, well, get us out of here, man. Coming
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Speaker 1 (16:57):
You're going to hear me use that from here on out. Well,
anytime it's something derogatory, give me your apron back.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, I did give me that apron.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
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Speaker 4 (17:21):
I don't want to care about it.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Listen, I don't care what your rundown says. We're not
doing picks against the spread. I don't care. I don't
care what the hell it says. I promise you we're
doing FSRIR coming up.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I did a horrible job minutes from now too. I
took the Giants as the dogs in this. They suck bag.
They're a bad bad Oh my gosh, man, so correct
me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Didn't John Merrick come out and support keeping Brian Dable
for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, and Joe Shane not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I do wonder if it's turning to a point where
they might change their mind that. I always am curious
as to why owners feel like they need to address
the job security of someone in the middle of the season.
I understand the pressure that the media places upon the
owner to answer questions, but you could simply say, hey,
(18:18):
we're gonna evaluate everything about the end of the season.
There's no reason for me where I'm not going to
move on from a coach at this point in the year.
I mean, look at the Bears. By the way the
Bears have gotten significantly worse since moving on from Mattieberflus yep,
and I would I would question this. I mean, maybe
some teams don't mind that because it helps them solidify
(18:39):
a better draft pick, even though I'm saying the part
I'm not supposed to say out loud, But for them
to go out and give a vote of confidence, it
has to upset the fan base. It's got to be
hard to digest the fact that they are on pace
to have the worst record in the NFL. I'd be
the first time since nineteen sixty six. They could end
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up point winless at home for the first time since
nineteen seventy four. They've never gone winless within the division,
which could happen this year, and the last time they
had the number one overall pick in the draft was
nineteen sixty five. All the I mean, if you look
at how historically bad this season has been for them,
all those things for a fan base that's been I
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would say is as good as any in the NFL,
Like this is what they've had to endure.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So remember last year, Arthur Smith got I think a
vote of confidence. There was a feeling that he was
going to be back, that they understood he was in
a kind of a rough spot with the quarterback situation.
But then it went so poorly down the stretch that
they just decided we got to move on, Like it
just it's not working. I don't know how you view
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anything about the Giants and go, oh, that's promising.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
That display yesterday terriful, that I mean, that was as
I mean, that's just an uninspired effort, Like it just
didn't look good at all. And you got a rookie
who comes in in relief duty, not even established, not
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even comfortably adjusted and adapted to the league and playing
in games, and you got him out there looking like
he should have been starting all along. That just isn't
how it should work. Not to mention, what are you
going to do something with it? On the offense, like
Locke wasn't doing anything. It just looks bad. It just
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looks bad. Doesn't look like it's a team that's trying
to go in the right direction. Right, So if it
doesn't look like it's a team that's trying to go
in the right direction with the way that they're playing like,
I'll give you a great example that Dallas was eliminated officially,
they were officially not able to make it to the playoffs. Yesterday, Yep,
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you're in primetime spot. Easily could have been a game
where you just, you know, go through the motions. It's
it's vacation time, it's self preservation time, it's don't get
injured time. And they played their hearts out. They played hard,
and and to me to see them go out there
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play play their heart out against a good Tampa team,
the number one in the in the Division right. That
loss right there put Atlanta in the driver's seat to
possibly win the NFC South. So there's so much on
the line, and yet that's so much on the line.
(21:46):
Would would go more towards Tampa Bay than it would
towards the Dallas Cowboys. You could just chalk it up
like hey, catch it in and they did not. So
that says to me, I look at a Sherman or
Carthy's kuming, I look like I look at a McCarthy
much differently today and what his stability is as the
(22:08):
coach of the Dallas Cowboys than what I look at
day Ball being the coach of the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Let me ask you, let me ask you a question
on that note, who do you think is more likely
to be back day Ball or McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I do too, And all we've been hearing about was
now McCarthy's gone after this year. This is approve it
year if they don't, And now I'm looking at it
going yeah, I mean, at least they play hard.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
When you look at the amount of injuries that they've
had to endure, and the team never gave up. They
haven't given up. They continue to play that says a
lot about how they feel about the coaching staff and
what's going on, and so, like I just said, I
would tend to think that maybe Mike McCarthy and the
(22:53):
way this team has played and performed down the stretch
the last maybe three or so games, that you would
think that he's going to maintain his job. I don't
think that's a stretch. I don't think that's a stretch
at all at this point. I mean, I think they're
all going to be gone. I do think that there's
a strong chance that McCarthy is gone. I think Dave
Ball is going to be gone. I think so. But
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there's still that opportunity for that not to happen.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
And the question comes down to do you trust him
to take over whoever the number one overall pick is
that quarterback, because that's what they're looking at. If Shador
Sanders is who they go with, do they trust him
to be the coach to take him, bring him along
and maximize get the most out of him. If we're
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looking at the trends of the NFL, that's ultimately what
it's about. I think the tough thing for the Giants is,
you know, the off season didn't help. You know, clearly
the decision to not sign Saquon Barkley to a long
term deal, let him go into free agency, let him
go to the Philadelphia Eagles, a division opponent who you
look at what he's doing right now, playing at an
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MVP level. And that was the one thing that you
had ownerships sit there and say, like they're gonna be
sick about. Yet that worst, the worst nightmare came true.
That's one element of it. You have Daniel Jones, a
quarterback who you know you paid, and unfortunately it puts
you in a position where kind of had to see
what you had in him this year. But you know,
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these these guys are also responsible for big a part
of that. So the offseason didn't help. During the season,
it feels like they've lost the locker room. And when
that's when that happens, it's hard for a coach to
rebound from it, because that's what that game looked like yesterday.
It looked like that locker room is no longer playing
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for each other and playing for their head coach.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I'm sitting here looking at highlights and then it starts.
It brings up the question of San fran too, and obviously,
you know that Lynch is not going to do anything
drastic or dramatic as it applies to the head coaching job.
But that windows closed. Man, The question is, what are
you going to do? Does this turn into a complete rebuild?
(25:15):
Do you have to blow it all up? Because I'm
sure his trusting and Kyle Shanahan is so high that
I believe that John Lynch would convince the the ownership
to give give them the opportunity to blow it up
and rebuild it. Because I mean, Deebo Samuel, it looks
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like his you know, his best days are behind him.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
They were trying to trade him in the offseason.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I think he's more interested in his fashion sense before
the game than he is you know, winning, which that
could be a shot because he's a South Carolina That
could be a shot. That could be a shot. It's
I mean, your boy, c Mac. I don't think he's
going to ever be the same. He's never going to
be the same again, you know what I mean? Like
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like that that whole thing that took place with him,
like he's happy as hell. He got his contracts, he
got his girl. He's good. The thing with Ayuk, I
mean maybe Au comes back and he's good, But how
good are they without all of those elements? And then Kittle,
I mean, he's Kittle. You know, he's going to be
what you want to be. But he's getting up there
(26:26):
a little bit too. I mean, he can't do it all.
I just I almost feel like this is a blow
it up situation in San fran So now that one,
that's that's one you got to ask. I mean, don't
you feel like you got to ask the same exact
question we just asked about day Ball or or McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, but but if you're that doesn't look like a
locker round.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
No dude walked off the field and they said, that's
one dude, But that does not look like a team
that's playing for something.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, but are you better if you're going down the
path of a rebuild, are you better to do it
with Kyle shannan or without? And it just doesn't make
sense to me, like, why would you, like, why would
you part ways with him? That feels like somebody that
I would want, you know, especially with what he's done
there in his time there?
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Hold on, is Kyle Shanahan the problem?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I don't know I mean, I think when you lose,
When you lose, you got to always look at the
coaches the problem.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Well, I don't know they have to look at the
coaches the problem. I think you have to look at
and determining what the problem is. I don't think Kyle
Shanahan's the problem. I think they've unfortunately found themselves now
to the point where they've got an aging roster and
they've got to rebuild. The run they went on is
one in which, if not for Kansas City, you're probably
(27:44):
looking at them as another team that's one. Yeah, at
least one super Bowl, maybe two.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yeah, maybe that's the problem. Patrick Mahomes like that, that's.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I mean, And yeah, I mean I picked against him too,
And them boogers keep figuring out ways to win.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Well, they only are getting better now. I mean that's
the scary thing. Now you get Hollywood Brown as a
part of that. I look at them now and think
like they're getting more dangerous as they get healthier and
closer to the end of the season, which is a
scary thought.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
By the way, I knew Tank Dell dislocated his kneecap.
I knew it. I've done it recognize it right away.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
What's the first sign you look for.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I mean, if it's laying next to your calf, like
if it's you know, on the side a That was
actually the first time I ever had a calf was
when the kneecap was over by the side of it.
It's kind of sweet, just this, just this canyon in
the middle of your leg and then then your kneecap
sitting there. But you pop it back in, It'll be
all right.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I mean c J.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Stroud was really really emotional, like I thought the guy had,
you know, like a bear had jumped out of the
crowd and bit his leg off, dislocated kneecap, pop back in,
you know, Mahomes did it. It was back in two games.
It's fine, but yeah, it is a bad situation for
the for the for the New York Giants that could
(29:06):
get good if they do get Shador Sanders. The Raider
fans are not happy.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Do you guys trust Okay, so they get Shador Sanders,
do you trust that day Ball can have a better
season and change things around with leak neighbors and the
Shador Sanders.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
The hard thing is, did you see some of the
offensive line play. I mean it was atrocious. It doesn't
matter if Schador goes there if they can't protect them.
I mean, hell, he got the crap kicked out of them.
They called out for two years. Yeah, I mean that
doesn't last in the NFL. You get hit enough, you're
gonna get hurt. So they've got to figure out a
way of sharing up the protection first and foremost, and
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then we can figure out the rest from there. But
he helped Daniel Jones when he first got there, and
I think they kind of saw the ceiling and made
a poor business decision. So now they have another opportunity
to make the one. And you just got to kind
of hope that if you're Brian Dable, that ownership trusts
(30:05):
you and Joe Shane for that matter, to give you
another opportunity of getting this thing right.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I mean, it's whether it's the offense of the defense.
I mean, they've got a lot that they need to
fix there, you know, and uh, I feel like that's
a long shot. I mean sometimes they say the best
offense is a good defense, you know, especially with the
Giants if you think about all their all their great teams,
you know, the New York.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Giants well, you don't want to play around though either.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
No, I agree, I agree, like definitely don't want.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
To be it's gonna be a you gotta make it
a priority.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I agree, I agree. And it seems like that's something
that that they would want to want to do for sure.
So it's a it's definitely, uh, definitely they ah, definitely
all that.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Okay, Yeah, hey, let's talk about it. Listen, you want
to talk about some offense. Well, let's talk about this offense.
The best offense is a good defense.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
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Speaker 2 (32:35):
Your sports weekend happens. So it's time to get the
FSR IR Report right all.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Right, Bradon, Well, it has to start with me.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Is that how it is you want me to start?
I could give y'all a quick one.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Yeah, let's hear it, come off, bar.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I've never in my life had this happen. I've had
a lot of things happen from flying as much as
I do. We were taking off off to go get
our flight, go go, you know, to the next place,
and the pilot slammed on the brakes as we were
taking off. So we were just about to take off,
(33:13):
you felt it, get ready to lift off, and then
he slammed on the brakes and we couldn't understand what
was going on, Like it was kind of scary, freak
because it jerked the hell out of us. And a
couple minutes later he comes in, he goes, yeah, a
malfunction light went off and we were told to abort
the take off. We're like, okay, but the malfunction light
(33:35):
went off, so we're just gonna circle around and try
it again. And everybody, you just heard the whole entire
you know, cabin just go oh, like a whole bunch
of chatter. Like most people, I think if you could
hear them, and they were saying. What we were saying
is like, yeah, don't ignore that that malfunction light went off.
(33:56):
Let's not just circle around and do it. Try it again,
because the light and off, and then like literally like
three four seconds later, goes, yeah, we're going to take
it back to the gate.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So we had to d plane.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I almost missed my connection, but my connection ended up
getting delayed, so I ended up making it. But I
did get back really really late because of the delays.
So there you go. I'm working on like an hour
hour sleep. So my tank is almost empty right now.
But if I had, if I had a drink, if
I would have heard about.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
A hole on a second a second. The game was
Saturday at noon.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah, yeah, but you thought I was gonna fly out
Saturday Saturday.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Night, Well Sunday morning, Yeah, so I.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Go get my wings at Zimbie's.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
So I always, buddy, you got an entire day. You
gained three hours flying back?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, buddy, but you know what I got delayed? I
was I was flying out. I was supposed to get
back at like six, So.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
What time are you to play? Take off? Initially from
how no no, I flew out of Harrisburg. Okay, we'll
talk that Hasburg.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It ended up taking off at around six, but.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
What time was it initially scheduled two three?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Well, I want to watch the first set of games,
Like I got to halftime before I had to switch
off to my mom.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I was just saying, like, here's the problem with like
fly in general, by the way too, Like people will
complain about stuff, but it's like, all right, the main
deal is just getting their safe like like once it
like once your safety or like your life like comes
into play, people like, oh yeah, maybe Sh'S get that
checked out, you know, like it's probably not worth like
we're willing to endure the delay and everything else, yes,
(35:44):
to get where we're going safely.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yes, I get that problem is is that my next
flight was delay like another hour beyond what that was,
so so we didn't take off until like just before
like it's like eight thirty eight forty when we took
off from from Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
These mbies wings can't be that good.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
They are, really, yeah they are.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Even if they are that good, which I'm not gonna
they probably are. I'm more worried about your the way
you're scheduling these flights. Man, We're going like for what
is it hour drive to Harrisburg.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, oh our drive to Harrisboro.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Yeah, for an afternoon flight to connecting Charlotte to go
to No.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So so I stayed, I stay over. I always stay
overnight and leave Sunday morning. I always stay overnight, always
when I go to a game. So if I'm not
disputing that, if I can get a flight out of
if my flight is going out of Harrisburg and I
have to go out of because there were no flights
out of State College, So if I have to fly
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out of Harrisburg, then then I just make it a
little bit a tack bit later so I can go
get some wings before.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I leave it.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
So really, the cause for you not getting more sleep
was the fact you needed to go to send.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
These no, because I would have made it back at
I would have been home by nine o'clock in my
house I'm looking at.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
But the delay, the delay pushed me back.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Now, you got to plan for a delay, But you know,
I mean the delay set off set off a trigger,
you know.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
But I'm saying, even if you everything would have worked
out perfect. Yeah, so you land at nine pm or
you're about your house. I've been back at my house
by nine, okay, but like at most you can get
maybe maybe five hours.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I would have been okay with nine o'clock. Four hours
is my average. I'm cool with four. Anything less than
that that's no good.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
But enough about me. I want to hear your ir.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Let's hear your I look, it's not really an IR,
It's just the reality is I very rarely get to
go to a game and just enjoy. And I would
even say, like Friday night wasn't so much that for me,
because I was trying to manage a bunch of people
who were who were with me. Lioner paid off his bet,
so he flew in from southern California and came to
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the playoff game. He paid up his end of the
notre name USC bets. A kudos to him. He did
bring his son and a buddy, so just kind of
managing all the different people where they were coming from,
trying to get him all to the same spot to
then go up into the stadium was a decently hard
task because a lot of the people hadn't been to
campus before a least not in that respect, so couldn't
(38:27):
really enjoy the way I would have liked to. But
went to a house State Tennessee and that game it's like,
I don't really have, you know, a dog in the fight.
So I'm just sitting back and enjoying college football. The atmosphere,
the people I was withping around, so it was it
was a little bit of a little some mixing going on,
and you know, I was excited, man, it was. It
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was a fun night. I had a great time.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Lead your thoughts on mixing. Uh, beer before liquor, never sicker,
look before beer.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
You're in the clear.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Hey yeah, I mean yeah, it was a lot of
just yep, yes, not many nots to I was drinking
at that point in time. So me Wagon was there
shotgunning beers off his impressive ability to shotgun some beers.
So that was that was taking place. It was impressive.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I approve of mixing myself.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
But yeah, it's that stadium was lit that it was rocking.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, awesome late night games man, people be turning.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Hey, how was that white out though?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
That?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
It was a white out energy? It was good man,
It was legit.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
It looks awesome.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
It was all the way loud. Man, it was live.
It's white, yes it was, and it was out. Shut up.
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Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, all right, all right, all right, So was Ben
Johnson on yesterday for the Bears head coaching job because
he basically put a clown suit on the Bears with
whatever the hell that was the fake stumble and.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Fall and then that's what you know, and they both
tripped and stumbled. The back and the quarterback tripped and stumbled.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
That's how you practice it, that's what you do, That's
how you do it. Yeah. So we used to have
a play where it was a direct snap and the
quarterback you know, acts like he's jumping up to get
the ball and kind of turns and spins and then
the running back kind of turns to go get the
direct snap right, and then it kind of plunged through
in this case though, I mean, obviously they need to
(02:42):
get the right look, but the levels to which they
schemed up the Chicago Bears in this case was just amazing.
So one golf from under center kind of spins, acts
like he rolls the ball out, fumbles it to the
running back. Right, was it Gibbs who went down like that?
So Gibbs kind of kind of you know, tucks and
(03:02):
turns and runs the coordination though, if you go back
and listen to the audio of the Detroit Lions sidelines
yelling ball ball ball fumble, ball fumble, just to try
to sell the Bears on it, where they froze just
enough to give Laporta a step and a window for
GoF to make the throw, which it looked like it
(03:23):
was for a second. I was like, oh, please catch that,
because if you don't, it's gonna be all for or not.
But every single part of that play was it kind
of like here it is. I don't know if I'm
your number one candidate or not, but like this is
the kind of ingenuity that like we do over here,
like maybe if that's what you want for your head coach.
It sounds like they're between two candidates. Ben Johnson's won
(03:44):
and Mike Vrabel's the other one. We'll see where ends
up going.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Jared Goff spoke after the game about the play and
apparently Ben Johnson was trying to get him to actually
fumble it. Let's take a list.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
What done it all week after?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
As the best you had brought it in the game? Actually,
he just what was the genesis of that?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
We did work on it all week, but we ran
it probably three or four times for the week, and
the genesis was that's a good play for for that scheme.
It is, but they're they're in tune with it on
defense that that is a good play and that it's
hard to it's hard to get that on them because
those linebackers are so dang good at seeing it develop.
So there at first it started on Monday with Ben
(04:25):
asking me if he thought I could like actually fumble
on purpose and pick it back up. I was like,
I don't. I don't know about that, and that we
we kind of got off that pretty quickly and we're like,
let's just let's just pretend we're falling, or pretend I'm fumbling,
and but I'm holding onto the ball. And I think
the part that Gibbs where he dives really sells the play.
You know, I'm only doing half of it, but yeah,
it worked. It worked like a charm and was nice
(04:46):
to score there.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Crazy really that I think.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I guess I wasn't really paying that close attention because
I saw it in real time and you thought he stumbled.
I just was like, I just thought he stumbled. I
wouldn't really like JA. I was watching multiple games though,
but I just and I don't. I don't watch games
with the sound on, so I didn't didn't even look
(05:10):
at it that way.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I just want they wouldn't have helped you because they didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
They didn't confused films like oh man, I mean he
was wide open there.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Well, I was gonna say, like, it takes probably an
offensive guy because these are the things that we talk
about go through because think about it, like, defensive players
are always reactive, and so we're always trying to figure
out how we can act to get a certain reaction
out of them, because the reality is they're the better athletes.
(05:38):
So if you can find ways of getting them to
react in a manner that gives your guys a step
that's all you need and then you got to execute
the rest of it. So it could be a fake
fumble like that, it could be like the old you know,
fall down, oh crap screen, you know, or the tight
end throwback that that teams run all the time. There's
all sorts of different things that we try to do
(06:00):
essentially kind of trick the defense, and it has a
lot to do with just watching tape and seeing how
guys on defense react to certain things. Like I can
vividly remember us installing plays where typically like you have
a wide receiver run a double move and you're trying
to set up the cornerback. But when you play against
Ed Reid, we would have both sides do the double
(06:22):
move because we knew Ed was gonna jump one of
the two. Like we might have a deep dig and
so we call like a pump, like we'd go up,
run a twenty yard dig act like he's running inside,
then release vertical. Then the other side we have him
run a comeback at like eighteen twenty yards, have him
do it more of a stutter go and release because
we knew Ed Reid, would we read one of those
(06:42):
two and try to jump that, try to pick it off.
But if you had two, obviously you can't pick both.
And so you weren't even looking at the cornerback. You're
already assuming the cornerback's gonna bite up on the stutter
portion of it, or like that in pump portion.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Of That's their responsibility is that to do exactly that
and have help over top.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
But it was Ed who ultimately you were reading, and
Ed was the one that you were just saying, all right,
let him pick. I mean, you could look him one
way or another, but oftentimes, like it's a game within
the game where when you would look he knew he was,
you were trying to look him off, and so he'd
be trying to mess with you with the way he'd
align and then how he'd go about trying to jump
he route, and so at the end of the day
(07:22):
you just kind of drop back, get get a sense
for where he was, and then try to throw opposite
but on a double move that was literally trying to
get a defender on either side of the field bite
up at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
How much time do you need for that and how
deep a ball is that when you do that.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
It all depends on where he's at right, Like, if
he keeps his depth, you gotta throw a flatter ball.
If he ends up biting on something like that, then
you got to really heave it downfield. Let him go
run because he can. You know, he was the type
that out of always you know, you know, turn his
hips and run and go make a play on the football.
So it was, but it was just funny. Like when
you sit in these these offensive meeting rooms, in particular
(07:56):
quarterback rooms, where you're coming up with some of these ideas,
it's it's all literally born out of like watching a
defense and how they react to certain think well and
especially like you if you look at Chicago's linebackers, like
those guys try to be more a little flat, fast flow.
So anytime a defense really flows to the football fast
and is good in pursuit, you're always trying to find
(08:19):
a way of getting misdirection. You're always trying to find
a way of slowing them down. And that's why, like,
for example, you're going up against like Miles Garrett for example,
the Cleveland Browns, people will sit there and be like, well,
how are we gonna match him up, how we're gonna
block him and pass for how we're gonna block him
and run blocking, And oftentimes you just go, we're not,
like we're gonna do a zone read to his side,
(08:39):
and we're gonna find a way of reading him and
to force him to kind of pick or choose the
quarterback or the running back or put him in some
sort of conflict so he can't play as fast. Because
that's like, we don't have a great matchup against him,
So what do you do? You try to find ways
of eliminating him going up against the guy who's not
gonna be able to win that battle, right, And that's
(09:02):
oftentimes again how you kind of get some of this
scheme that we talk about in a lot of the
offensive rooms when you look on matchups.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I mean, he spoiled a really fun play against a
team he didn't need to use that play against was
there atrocious? They should actually hire eber flus back to
be their defensive coordinator for the remainder of the season
because they are terrible on defense. Like Caleb Williams is
not the problem, like he is.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
He's actually played really well.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, like he slitted their problem, Like they got real
issues there, and I don't know if Ben Johnson is
going to be able to fix that, Like you're talking
about Dan Quinn and what he's done in the organization.
That's why I feel like Vrabel might be the better get.
But I just find I don't know if Rabel would
turn down the opportunity to want to join Tom Brady
in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So it just man, the bears are bad. You know,
That's how relationships go bad. Though they say you shouldn't
do business with family, doesn't It doesn't go well too often.
You know, if it goes as well, can you My
brother fired me, so I know if it doesn't go well,
can you still be cool with one another?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You know, when did you and your brother work together?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
He was the bar manager at this place called Cisco's And.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, I both went there.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Huh. I was used the bar boy was the bar back.
I was a bus boy. I hadn't gotten to that
level yet.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And you they caught you in the back eating half
chewed on cheeseburgers.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I told him I was gonna probably end up leaving
because I was gonna take a telemarketing job that paid
a little bit more, and.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
He said so, So you're trying to gain a ten
dollars fine right now, because that's passive aggressive what you're
doing right now talking about you're basically trying to say that,
Well you were going to leave, but he fired you
before you left.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, yeah, that's what I was trying to explain. Yeah, like, no,
I don't like that. Well, just can I finish the story?
Let him fire you, all right, Just let me finish
the story, fire you. So I was getting ready to
tell him, like, hey, I'm going to be taking the
Stellar marketing job, and so you know I'm probably gonna
well you're not doing it until you put in your
two weeks. Well, no, I was planning I'm putting in
my two weeks. He said, yeah, yeah, but like you
(11:08):
need to officially put in your two weeks. And he
started really busting my balls because he was like kind
of fought to get me the job. I was like, well, yeah, mom,
I'm gonna put in it. And then I just got
mouthy and said, well listen, if I want to walk
out right now, walk out right now. He goes, no, No,
in fact, don't put you two weeks in. It's all good.
You're fired. He said, give me your apron. So I
took my apron right in front of my mom too.
(11:32):
My Mom's like, oh god, And she just didn't even
step in. She went outside. She didn't want any part
of it.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Did joh fight?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
No, Me and my brother would have fought whichever side
it would have been on whether I did the firing
or was getting fired. We would have fought over over like,
you're not going to fire me like that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
By the way, that two weeks of wage.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Why didn't you just come back? Why didn't you tell
him I quit? You can't fire me. I'm already I quit.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Because I was slow on the draw. Oh, I mean
you see it every but.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
As soon as he.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But why But why wouldn't you just tell him after
he told you? Even after because even if you get shot,
if he didn't shoot you in the head, you still
got an opportunity to shoot him back. Yeah, but like
that still would have hurt him, even though he said
I fire you, and that like would have gave him
like the one up. If you'd have said you can't
fire me. It was it was after the bell, like
it didn't count. Yeah, but you still could do it.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
He won.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It would have hurt his feelings because because you could
look at it this way, you could have been pleading
for him, like, no, maybe I'm not going to take
the job, maybe I'm gonna keep this one, like I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You could have like took it out.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
You could have took it all back and then you
steered it in the in the direction.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, I'm just saying you could have took it all
back and begged for your job back, and then it
would have been like it never happened.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Goat that two weeks of wages was like really critical
at that point, was it? Oh my god, I needed
it like blood.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
But you were out. He literally really fired. He took
your apron and everything.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I didn't even get to keep the apron.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
He took your apron.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Like I would to. I had to buy like a
Hawaiian shirt, white jeans for this job. And and I'm like, yeah,
so I went to Miller's out post and bought some
anchor blue white jeans for this job and this Hawaiian
shirt like a like a Marshall's or a Mervin somewhere.
And then I had to like stare at that in
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my closet as a reminder of your brother fired you.
You didn't even get the chance to quit. He fired
your ass, but you were quitting. So really, in fact,
he wasn't firing you out of him needing to, or
he fired you because you made it a necessity to
fire you because you weren't going to do it the
right way. Yeah, I mean it's on me. I should
(13:42):
have should have been I should have been quick.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That tells me a lot about you, just saying, man,
why could you just do it the right way?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Why would you call the problem too?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, See the problem with what younger brothers is you
guys take advantage of the and the love that's extended
to you from your older siblings. No, it's not your
spoiled brats. That's a spoiler. You even said your mom
was present when it took place. You're a spoiled dude. No,
it's not spoiled.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I was letting him know, like, hey, I'm you know fact,
I was giving you the heads up I'm probably gonna
be going to uh, you know, to another place, and
they give me.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
After he put himself on the line to get you
the job in the first place. Business transaction like I'm
out of here. Yeah, I didn't have a contract. I
would have beat your ass mom.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Listen, Probably Mom.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Wouldn't have been able to hold back that ass whipping.
I would have gat I put myself on the line
to work to get you the job.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Leave your hostile. He's more professional, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, but were you'll at the job?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
No, we're at home? Okay, So why I got to
be professional at the crib. I'm gonna beat your ass.
I mean, listen, we brothers at the crib. I'm gonna
be professional in the spot, be like, hello, Jonas, how
are you doing?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think I'm going to need your your your apron back?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, I think he was on his way to work,
which is the perfect time to drop the news on him.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You're man, you got you got man?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Is what it is.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
This is uh got to be a top ten all
time worst segment we've ever done.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah, easy, easy, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I think it's pretty Yeah, I think it's pretty Uh,
I think it's pretty relevant.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Conversation was pretty relevant.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Listen to Jonas talk about his uh how he quit.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I don't know it's going to be it's going to
be grilled on it. Blame LeVar. It's just yeah, I
didn't do I was interested. I was very interested. Thank you,
Thank you. So so that'll wrap up your coverage of
Ben Johnson's interview. Props even took you down that road anyway,
and Brady and Mike Mike Rabel. Yeah, working together, family,
(15:49):
working together.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, that was what took Jonas there. Yeah, he had
to mention that.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, you said family, I said, yeah, I've been there,
fire happens, You're still friends, Yeah, of course. Alright, well
then that should be okay, Sunset Terras, Yeah that's right.
What up, Sunset You don't work there though yourself, Well,
it's not my restaurant.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
What he ever hire?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
You can't you can't say it, and then like say
what up at the same time, you know what I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Saying, Okay, I don't know the rules, man, I mean,
I'm just kidding. I'm trying to get out of this,
you know, well, get us out of here, man. Coming
up now, the worst segment ever coming up next here
from the tireraq dot Com studios. We are going to uh,
we are going to the worst top ten are we
are going to break steak top ten? You stink the
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Speaker 2 (16:42):
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Speaker 1 (16:57):
You're going to hear me use that from here on out. Well,
anytime it's something derogatory, give me your apron back.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, I did give me that apron.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
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Speaker 2 (17:21):
I R.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I don't want to care about it.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Listen, I don't care what your rundown says. We're not
doing picks against the spread. I don't care. I don't
care what the hell it says. I promise you we're
doing FSRIR coming up.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I did a horrible job minutes from now too. I
took the Giants as the dogs in this. They suck bag.
They're a bad bad Oh my gosh, man, so correct
me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Didn't John Merrick come out and support keeping Brian Dable
for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, and Joe Shane not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I do wonder if it's turning to a point where
they might change their mind that. I always am curious
as to why owners feel like they need to address
the job security of someone in the middle of the season.
I understand the pressure that the media places upon the
owner to answer questions, but you could simply say, hey,
(18:18):
we're gonna evaluate everything about the end of the season.
There's no reason for me where I'm not going to
move on from a coach at this point in the year.
I mean, look at the Bears. By the way the
Bears have gotten significantly worse since moving on from Mattieberflus yep,
and I would I would question this. I mean, maybe
some teams don't mind that because it helps them solidify
(18:39):
a better draft pick, even though I'm saying the part
I'm not supposed to say out loud, But for them
to go out and give a vote of confidence, it
has to upset the fan base. It's got to be
hard to digest the fact that they are on pace
to have the worst record in the NFL. I'd be
the first time since nineteen sixty six. They could end
(18:59):
up point winless at home for the first time since
nineteen seventy four. They've never gone winless within the division,
which could happen this year, and the last time they
had the number one overall pick in the draft was
nineteen sixty five. All the I mean, if you look
at how historically bad this season has been for them,
all those things for a fan base that's been I
(19:22):
would say is as good as any in the NFL,
Like this is what they've had to endure.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So remember last year, Arthur Smith got I think a
vote of confidence. There was a feeling that he was
going to be back, that they understood he was in
a kind of a rough spot with the quarterback situation.
But then it went so poorly down the stretch that
they just decided we got to move on, Like it
just it's not working. I don't know how you view
(19:49):
anything about the Giants and go, oh, that's promising.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
That display yesterday terriful, that I mean, that was as
I mean, that's just an uninspired effort, Like it just
didn't look good at all. And you got a rookie
who comes in in relief duty, not even established, not
(20:14):
even comfortably adjusted and adapted to the league and playing
in games, and you got him out there looking like
he should have been starting all along. That just isn't
how it should work. Not to mention, what are you
going to do something with it? On the offense, like
Locke wasn't doing anything. It just looks bad. It just
(20:37):
looks bad. Doesn't look like it's a team that's trying
to go in the right direction. Right, So if it
doesn't look like it's a team that's trying to go
in the right direction with the way that they're playing like,
I'll give you a great example that Dallas was eliminated officially,
they were officially not able to make it to the playoffs. Yesterday, Yep,
(20:58):
you're in primetime spot. Easily could have been a game
where you just, you know, go through the motions. It's
it's vacation time, it's self preservation time, it's don't get
injured time. And they played their hearts out. They played hard,
and and to me to see them go out there
(21:23):
play play their heart out against a good Tampa team,
the number one in the in the Division right. That
loss right there put Atlanta in the driver's seat to
possibly win the NFC South. So there's so much on
the line, and yet that's so much on the line.
(21:46):
Would would go more towards Tampa Bay than it would
towards the Dallas Cowboys. You could just chalk it up
like hey, catch it in and they did not. So
that says to me, I look at a Sherman or
Carthy's kuming, I look like I look at a McCarthy
much differently today and what his stability is as the
(22:08):
coach of the Dallas Cowboys than what I look at
day Ball being the coach of the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Let me ask you, let me ask you a question
on that note, who do you think is more likely
to be back day Ball or McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I do too, And all we've been hearing about was
now McCarthy's gone after this year. This is approve it
year if they don't, And now I'm looking at it
going yeah, I mean, at least they play hard.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
When you look at the amount of injuries that they've
had to endure, and the team never gave up. They
haven't given up. They continue to play that says a
lot about how they feel about the coaching staff and
what's going on, and so, like I just said, I
would tend to think that maybe Mike McCarthy and the
(22:53):
way this team has played and performed down the stretch
the last maybe three or so games, that you would
think that he's going to maintain his job. I don't
think that's a stretch. I don't think that's a stretch
at all at this point. I mean, I think they're
all going to be gone. I do think that there's
a strong chance that McCarthy is gone. I think Dave
Ball is going to be gone. I think so. But
(23:16):
there's still that opportunity for that not to happen.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
And the question comes down to do you trust him
to take over whoever the number one overall pick is
that quarterback, because that's what they're looking at. If Shador
Sanders is who they go with, do they trust him
to be the coach to take him, bring him along
and maximize get the most out of him. If we're
(23:41):
looking at the trends of the NFL, that's ultimately what
it's about. I think the tough thing for the Giants is,
you know, the off season didn't help. You know, clearly
the decision to not sign Saquon Barkley to a long
term deal, let him go into free agency, let him
go to the Philadelphia Eagles, a division opponent who you
look at what he's doing right now, playing at an
(24:04):
MVP level. And that was the one thing that you
had ownerships sit there and say, like they're gonna be
sick about. Yet that worst, the worst nightmare came true.
That's one element of it. You have Daniel Jones, a
quarterback who you know you paid, and unfortunately it puts
you in a position where kind of had to see
what you had in him this year. But you know,
(24:26):
these these guys are also responsible for big a part
of that. So the offseason didn't help. During the season,
it feels like they've lost the locker room. And when
that's when that happens, it's hard for a coach to
rebound from it, because that's what that game looked like yesterday.
It looked like that locker room is no longer playing
(24:47):
for each other and playing for their head coach.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I'm sitting here looking at highlights and then it starts.
It brings up the question of San fran too, and obviously,
you know that Lynch is not going to do anything
drastic or dramatic as it applies to the head coaching job.
But that windows closed. Man, The question is, what are
you going to do? Does this turn into a complete rebuild?
(25:15):
Do you have to blow it all up? Because I'm
sure his trusting and Kyle Shanahan is so high that
I believe that John Lynch would convince the the ownership
to give give them the opportunity to blow it up
and rebuild it. Because I mean, Deebo Samuel, it looks
(25:35):
like his you know, his best days are behind him.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
They were trying to trade him in the offseason.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I think he's more interested in his fashion sense before
the game than he is you know, winning, which that
could be a shot because he's a South Carolina That
could be a shot. That could be a shot. It's
I mean, your boy, c Mac. I don't think he's
going to ever be the same. He's never going to
be the same again, you know what I mean? Like
(26:05):
like that that whole thing that took place with him,
like he's happy as hell. He got his contracts, he
got his girl. He's good. The thing with Ayuk, I
mean maybe Au comes back and he's good, But how
good are they without all of those elements? And then Kittle,
I mean, he's Kittle. You know, he's going to be
what you want to be. But he's getting up there
(26:26):
a little bit too. I mean, he can't do it all.
I just I almost feel like this is a blow
it up situation in San fran So now that one,
that's that's one you got to ask. I mean, don't
you feel like you got to ask the same exact
question we just asked about day Ball or or McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, but but if you're that doesn't look like a
locker round.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
No dude walked off the field and they said, that's
one dude, But that does not look like a team
that's playing for something.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, but are you better if you're going down the
path of a rebuild, are you better to do it
with Kyle shannan or without? And it just doesn't make
sense to me, like, why would you, like, why would
you part ways with him? That feels like somebody that
I would want, you know, especially with what he's done
there in his time there?
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Hold on, is Kyle Shanahan the problem?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I don't know I mean, I think when you lose,
When you lose, you got to always look at the
coaches the problem.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Well, I don't know they have to look at the
coaches the problem. I think you have to look at
and determining what the problem is. I don't think Kyle
Shanahan's the problem. I think they've unfortunately found themselves now
to the point where they've got an aging roster and
they've got to rebuild. The run they went on is
one in which, if not for Kansas City, you're probably
(27:44):
looking at them as another team that's one. Yeah, at
least one super Bowl, maybe two.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yeah, maybe that's the problem. Patrick Mahomes like that, that's.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I mean, And yeah, I mean I picked against him too,
And them boogers keep figuring out ways to win.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Well, they only are getting better now. I mean that's
the scary thing. Now you get Hollywood Brown as a
part of that. I look at them now and think
like they're getting more dangerous as they get healthier and
closer to the end of the season, which is a
scary thought.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
By the way, I knew Tank Dell dislocated his kneecap.
I knew it. I've done it recognize it right away.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
What's the first sign you look for.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I mean, if it's laying next to your calf, like
if it's you know, on the side a That was
actually the first time I ever had a calf was
when the kneecap was over by the side of it.
It's kind of sweet, just this, just this canyon in
the middle of your leg and then then your kneecap
sitting there. But you pop it back in, It'll be
all right.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I mean c J.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Stroud was really really emotional, like I thought the guy had,
you know, like a bear had jumped out of the
crowd and bit his leg off, dislocated kneecap, pop back in,
you know, Mahomes did it. It was back in two games.
It's fine, but yeah, it is a bad situation for
the for the for the New York Giants that could
(29:06):
get good if they do get Shador Sanders. The Raider
fans are not happy.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Do you guys trust Okay, so they get Shador Sanders,
do you trust that day Ball can have a better
season and change things around with leak neighbors and the
Shador Sanders.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
The hard thing is, did you see some of the
offensive line play. I mean it was atrocious. It doesn't
matter if Schador goes there if they can't protect them.
I mean, hell, he got the crap kicked out of them.
They called out for two years. Yeah, I mean that
doesn't last in the NFL. You get hit enough, you're
gonna get hurt. So they've got to figure out a
way of sharing up the protection first and foremost, and
(29:42):
then we can figure out the rest from there. But
he helped Daniel Jones when he first got there, and
I think they kind of saw the ceiling and made
a poor business decision. So now they have another opportunity
to make the one. And you just got to kind
of hope that if you're Brian Dable, that ownership trusts
(30:05):
you and Joe Shane for that matter, to give you
another opportunity of getting this thing right.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I mean, it's whether it's the offense of the defense.
I mean, they've got a lot that they need to
fix there, you know, and uh, I feel like that's
a long shot. I mean sometimes they say the best
offense is a good defense, you know, especially with the
Giants if you think about all their all their great teams,
you know, the New York.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Giants well, you don't want to play around though either.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
No, I agree, I agree, like definitely don't want.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
To be it's gonna be a you gotta make it
a priority.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I agree, I agree. And it seems like that's something
that that they would want to want to do for sure.
So it's a it's definitely, uh, definitely they ah, definitely
all that.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Okay, Yeah, hey, let's talk about it. Listen, you want
to talk about some offense. Well, let's talk about this offense.
The best offense is a good defense.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Ago.
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Speaker 5 (32:45):
Right, Bradon, Well, it has to start with me.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Is that how it is you want me to start?
I could give y'all a quick one.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Yeah, let's hear it, come off, bar.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I've never in my life had this happen. I've had
a lot of things happen from flying as much as
I do. We were taking off off to go get
our flight, go go, you know, to the next place,
and the pilot slammed on the brakes as we were
taking off. So we were just about to take off,
(33:13):
you felt it, get ready to lift off, and then
he slammed on the brakes and we couldn't understand what
was going on, Like it was kind of scary, freak
because it jerked the hell out of us. And a
couple minutes later he comes in, he goes, yeah, a
malfunction light went off and we were told to abort
the take off. We're like, okay, but the malfunction light
(33:35):
went off, so we're just gonna circle around and try
it again. And everybody, you just heard the whole entire
you know, cabin just go oh, like a whole bunch
of chatter. Like most people, I think if you could
hear them, and they were saying. What we were saying
is like, yeah, don't ignore that that malfunction light went off.
(33:56):
Let's not just circle around and do it. Try it again,
because the light and off, and then like literally like
three four seconds later, goes, yeah, we're going to take
it back to the gate.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So we had to d plane.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I almost missed my connection, but my connection ended up
getting delayed, so I ended up making it. But I
did get back really really late because of the delays.
So there you go. I'm working on like an hour
hour sleep. So my tank is almost empty right now.
But if I had, if I had a drink, if
I would have heard about.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
A hole on a second a second. The game was
Saturday at noon.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah, yeah, but you thought I was gonna fly out
Saturday Saturday.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Night, Well Sunday morning, Yeah, so I.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Go get my wings at Zimbie's.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
So I always, buddy, you got an entire day. You
gained three hours flying back?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, buddy, but you know what I got delayed? I
was I was flying out. I was supposed to get
back at like six, So.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
What time are you to play? Take off? Initially from
how no no, I flew out of Harrisburg. Okay, we'll
talk that Hasburg.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It ended up taking off at around six, but.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
What time was it initially scheduled two three?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Well, I want to watch the first set of games,
Like I got to halftime before I had to switch
off to my mom.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I was just saying, like, here's the problem with like
fly in general, by the way too, Like people will
complain about stuff, but it's like, all right, the main
deal is just getting their safe like like once it
like once your safety or like your life like comes
into play, people like, oh yeah, maybe Sh'S get that
checked out, you know, like it's probably not worth like
we're willing to endure the delay and everything else, yes,
(35:44):
to get where we're going safely.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yes, I get that problem is is that my next
flight was delay like another hour beyond what that was,
so so we didn't take off until like just before
like it's like eight thirty eight forty when we took
off from from Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
These mbies wings can't be that good.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
They are, really, yeah they are.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Even if they are that good, which I'm not gonna
they probably are. I'm more worried about your the way
you're scheduling these flights. Man, We're going like for what
is it hour drive to Harrisburg.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, oh our drive to Harrisboro.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Yeah, for an afternoon flight to connecting Charlotte to go
to No.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So so I stayed, I stay over. I always stay
overnight and leave Sunday morning. I always stay overnight, always
when I go to a game. So if I'm not
disputing that, if I can get a flight out of
if my flight is going out of Harrisburg and I
have to go out of because there were no flights
out of State College, So if I have to fly
(36:50):
out of Harrisburg, then then I just make it a
little bit a tack bit later so I can go
get some wings before.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I leave it.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
So really, the cause for you not getting more sleep
was the fact you needed to go to send.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
These no, because I would have made it back at
I would have been home by nine o'clock in my
house I'm looking at.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
But the delay, the delay pushed me back.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Now, you got to plan for a delay, But you know,
I mean the delay set off set off a trigger,
you know.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
But I'm saying, even if you everything would have worked
out perfect. Yeah, so you land at nine pm or
you're about your house. I've been back at my house
by nine, okay, but like at most you can get
maybe maybe five hours.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I would have been okay with nine o'clock. Four hours
is my average. I'm cool with four. Anything less than
that that's no good.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
But enough about me. I want to hear your ir.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Let's hear your I look, it's not really an IR,
It's just the reality is I very rarely get to
go to a game and just enjoy. And I would
even say, like Friday night wasn't so much that for me,
because I was trying to manage a bunch of people
who were who were with me. Lioner paid off his bet,
so he flew in from southern California and came to
(38:06):
the playoff game. He paid up his end of the
notre name USC bets. A kudos to him. He did
bring his son and a buddy, so just kind of
managing all the different people where they were coming from,
trying to get him all to the same spot to
then go up into the stadium was a decently hard
task because a lot of the people hadn't been to
campus before a least not in that respect, so couldn't
(38:27):
really enjoy the way I would have liked to. But
went to a house State Tennessee and that game it's like,
I don't really have, you know, a dog in the fight.
So I'm just sitting back and enjoying college football. The atmosphere,
the people I was withping around, so it was it
was a little bit of a little some mixing going on,
and you know, I was excited, man, it was. It
(38:48):
was a fun night. I had a great time.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Lead your thoughts on mixing. Uh, beer before liquor, never sicker,
look before beer.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
You're in the clear.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Hey yeah, I mean yeah, it was a lot of
just yep, yes, not many nots to I was drinking
at that point in time. So me Wagon was there
shotgunning beers off his impressive ability to shotgun some beers.
So that was that was taking place. It was impressive.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I approve of mixing myself.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
But yeah, it's that stadium was lit that it was rocking.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, awesome late night games man, people be turning.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Hey, how was that white out though?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
That?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
It was a white out energy? It was good man,
It was legit.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
It looks awesome.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
It was all the way loud. Man, it was live.
It's white, yes it was, and it was out. Shut up.
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