January 9, 2025 • 41 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys recount their first night in Miami in preparation for Notre Dame vs Penn State in the Orange Bowl, the job stability of Nick Sirianni with the Eagles and Mike Tomlin with the Steelers, the keys to winning for both Penn State & Notre Dame, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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And we are live on location in the vicinity of
the Orange Bowl. Now a little bit of a hike
based on traffic, but we are here. We've got Brady Quinn,
(00:53):
We've got LeVar Arrington. It is Notre Dame and it's
Penn State and it's the Range Bowl going down. LeVar
has got a necklace that says linebacker you that costs
more than my truck.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
So you are hotel? What they say? Get up? Stop sleeping?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Why were what was going on?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I was acting like Lee.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
LeVar has already been celebrating Penn State's victory tonight, so
he is foreshadowing of victory.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I don't think I was celebrating our victory.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I was just it was a pre celebration. Can I
say this much?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Just from watching some of the coaches press conference, James
Franklin seemed to be a lot more relaxed, a lot looser,
you know, some of the comments that he talked about
Marcus Freeman's hairline, talked about joining a conference airline.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
He uh, but tell me, did you did it.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Feel like he looked more comfortable, like I mean, Marcus
was locked in. But it also I think can sometimes
can come off as a little bit maybe some nervous
energy and looked like he wanted to fight right and
right then and there, and it looked like he wanted
to hug. Yeah, And it felt like there was like
almost like a father son moment, like I've been around
the block for a while. This is you know, like
let me show you son.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Like I'm like, all right, that's how you.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Neither one of them have been here before, correct, neither one,
But but.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
James has been in some big games before.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
They didn't go to the Wunch Bowl the year they
won the Big Ten? What bullding him? Did they go to?
I don't know I'll have to go back and check.
That's a good question. Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
I thought the year they.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Were really like ready to just stay like where I'm at,
and you made me want to think.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I don't, I don't want cannot. Can you turn me up?
Where am I at? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:04):
My headphone at where we are? Where's my headphone? Where's
a snare?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
He's more yeah right there? All right, but yeah, but
turn me up in my headphone. Yeah that's a little hot,
all right, but turn me up in my airphone though, right,
we're making so So they've played in everything var but
the Orange Bowl. He's been in the Rose, the Fiesta,
the Cotton Bowl, the Rose again, the Peaceful.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
So it's literally been every bowl but this. So there
you go check this off the box.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Hell yeah, well it's again it's a first for both
teams in terms of it being the college football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
That's that's all.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Right, this is listen. We can we can get.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Into the world's silly. My pants are silly.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Can we just talk about what the hell happened last night?
Travel stories?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
What would do?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
What happened with you guys? The travel story for me
was I came straight here and I didn't go back
to my hotel. He got a good nap though, because
I did not want to miss the show. I know
you're adicated individual. This guy just ran up on me
and he was like, sir, get up. I looked at him.
(04:24):
I was like, what the hell.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
He was?
Speaker 6 (04:33):
He was correct, he was correct, and I was incorrect.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
That's all that really mastered.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
When I walked in, I see a security guy walking
more towards the door, and I see LeVar walking across
there like main bar area.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I did.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I did not feel like what you did was acceptable
or appropriate.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Open the door for you. No, you laughed and you
said are you coming?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I was like, straight from being out?
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I was like, oh my god, Johnson, Oh my gosh,
walking up Johnson, are you coming from being straight out?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes? I am.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Where'd you go?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I will never tell no, no, nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I know where you started. Where did that start?
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Do you want to say? I know you want to eat?
You told me you were going to eat? Okay, Yeah,
where I go? Jiselle? Yes, how was that? It's good? Yeah,
it's good. It's a Brazilian food. Yeah, maybe that's a
good call. Actually, we told me that. I was like, yeah,
I'm god of food, that.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Is, But I swear I was guessing because I was.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
It was. It was almost like a fusion of Brazilian
food maybe got fused.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
What's in here? Lee was coffee? Lee was all about here.
Lee was all about the fu.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We all.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Second, you just assume Lee's got what like uh like
rum and there is no he's got He's got creamer
right there in the white. So he's got a creamer
some sugars for you.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So where's the where's the are you so listening?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I do mine black?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So I'm good like this. This is gonna be it's
gonna be a battle.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
It's gonna be a you know what though, when that
buffet comes opening, We'll get you some food.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
It's gonna be great. Hey man, this is going to
be a tough show for me. But I mean, if
it's only happened one time where I have to have
a tough show, I mean I'm responsible with ninety nine
point nine nine percent of the time outside of this.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
One point of the time. Can I ask you, Lee,
did you end up one of the elbow room last night?
I tried, you know, I tried to hop in my way.
It didn't go didn't make didn't make that thirsty say.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
No, we we left out. We were at batolo By?
Which is that place? Did you realize? The response?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Well, yeah, they were together. We go Did you go
to the elbrow WORLM? Well, okay, hold.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
On, are you going to today? Are you going to today?
Before you leave?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
He's not. I have time. You probably go for They
open early, he's not. They'll be open mid days. You know.
Let me check my schedule. He got time.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I think it's gonna be a good beach day.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'll put on my pink shorts. Why do you not
have real sugar?
Speaker 8 (07:36):
Because I brought four different types of sugar?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
All the sugars they have? See this? You know what? Yes,
somebody brown should I usually for me? It was not
brown shu, it was well, I did sugar for mylf.
Trying to figure out what type of sugar? Brady? What
(08:01):
kind of sugar? You guys? I can't focus. That's great.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
I want to entertain what Brady's doing. I wish I
wish you walking to see me.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
When I walked in though, because I was like, I
toltdal goes, how is this gonna work out?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
The valet took me about twenty five minutes in my car,
but as Susan.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Valley walked out, it's like, hey, perfect time, the perfect time.
That's what they call me, baby every time I walk in.
Look at me when I walked in and he just
he's just in his zone. Get through the door. There's
all I want to tell you, guys.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
If I have some sort of live read, you guys
gotta do it for me.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Okay, that's all I want to say.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
You mean, I can jump in here whatever it is
that I have, express bros.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Okay, we don't have me at the end of this segment.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Yeah, the first first hour, I got an hour to
clear myself up.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I will clear my shoes have come off. Well, they
weren't on, That's true, they never were.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
I was attacked by the hotel security. I was not approached.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
You yelled at me when I tried to wake you
at that you were I walked up to get a coffee.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
The only the only reason I knew that it was
you was because I saw your chain.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
I was like, oh, I thought, man.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Somebody had a rough night.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
I was like, that's the only way I stirred him
up was I started stroking.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Jesus, I was so irresponsible. I don't think stroked anyone else.
I was.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I was so irresponsible. So I can say I got
hard rocked.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
No. I was like, I'm telling you that place is fun. Man.
It was not heart rocked. It was not. But I'm here,
I'm here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I gotta get. I gotta get Brady credit man. Vodka
sas voca.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
What does that mean? I take credit for that.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Have you ever had like a spicy vodka sauce? So
I'm going to send you.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
There's a place called Carbones, which we also had a debate.
I've heard of Carbo.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So we had a debate about.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
We had a debate about East Coast West coast food,
and you got.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Very territorial over West Coast food. And so Jonas tries
to spicy vodka sauce if it's holo and he was like,
and I was like, yeah, the food's better on the
East Coast, especially like Italian.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It's good, but it ain't spicy.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Why you said territorial?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Man?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Who cares? Let's just say.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
He likes Mexican spicy Vodkasa spicy Okay, you put pepper.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Spice is not the same as West Coast.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
By the way, if you want to have a spice off,
you'll get that work.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I'm with you, I with you, with both of you. Yeah,
you're misconstruing what the sauce is good. That's what. Yes,
it is good. I'm gonna send you, guys, Carbone spicy
vodka sauce.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Car standing man, you put somebody to send me some sober.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
And send me some please, somebody.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You can eat this. You can eat this.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I was really upset with the hotel security, and that
should be he was. He was correct. There's no way
I'm going back to my room.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I'm you know, it's gonna be great. As he's that
guy's gonna be watching the game tonight. He's gonna see
you on the side by. There could be like all football.
Wait a second, that was in the loppy.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I can't even remember.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Fans are unbuckled.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I cannot remember who he was, and I'm trying to
remember the moment I had Lee. It wasn't Lee. It
was the moment I had with Brady in hair. I
just didn't want to be late.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
And somewhere you're here, Michael give me a drink next break,
I got one ready.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Is the one time Lee can get away with being
Lee with me is today. I will enjoy it, enjoy
it because I judge you every other day.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Today I shall not Lee.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
How many did you have when you got back here
last night?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I ponied up to the bar. I had two G
and t's. You had wanted dinner that I saw? Yeah,
you get squirrely after the wine. Well are my Are
my pants crazy or what they're? They're different, but.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Different A lot of a lot of pockets you can
put off what you talking. I'm just saying there's one
right there in the middle. I haven't seen a pocket.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I mean their cargo pants, So they're going to have
pockets that I was talking about. Hey buddy, I was
talking about that's our tech guy. Yeah, I was. Why
do we have Steve? Why do we have a curt Now?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Hey buddy, why do we have a kurt Us? I
think it's to help with the sound. Maybe I'm not.
It's nice they whoever did it, those pretty someone put
it together.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
So I almost feel is though trying to keep the
fans away.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
That's fine.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
So now after doing the show yesterday, do you kind
of get a feeling.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, back and forth.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, makes sense, I.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Got, I got. I gotta say. I don't really like
this hour. I don't like the barrier.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I don't like it. Yeah, like, if you move the curtain,
can you open it up? I just don't feel like
it should be there.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Yeah, all right, I just don't feel like it should
be there.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
These muting mics that don't even know whose mic it is.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, all right, So we'll give you a live play
by place.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
There's a barrier with an orange banner in front of
just slide.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I'm trying to actual slide. Oh my gosh, you're gonna
break most of the top. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
In front of us is trying to.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Move the banner to the side so people can see
us because there's like a crowd intelligence.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Dude, we're basically like Monica Winz. Get there. Bill Clint's
hiding us on desk.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Now that's a cigar.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I feel like an employee of one right now?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, what what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What do you mean by that? Screw? Oh man?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
All right, I just feel like I don't have to
be all the way a one hundred right.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
God man, you're out your mind with something.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Like that, show man, I'm just trying to recover. Yeah,
and what Lee just did really gave me motion sickness
with no results.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 2 (15:31):
App The Eagles looked like they might be getting some
good news though, because apparently Jalen Hurts practiced, still fighting
through the concussion, but the expectation is that he's going
to play for Philadelphia this upcoming weekend against the Green
Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I've got a hypothetical I want to throw at
you guys.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Okay, what's that hypothetical?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
If Philly goes one and done?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Ooh, green Bay beats him, Oh beat him at home,
and they got to do.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Could big Sirianni get canned?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Well?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Does that open up the door for them to make
a move?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Listen, you always talk about today you want to make
you always talk about I mean, if you're Vrabel, is
that not immediately the best job available?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Who do you want to make a move for? Oh?
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It all depends on how you view, like what that
job is. If you want a job where you have
complete autonomy, that's probably not that job. We know Howie
Roseman is. You know that it's going to be the
shot collar there. So there's a difference in my opinion
of how you view that job. Just because the roster
(16:38):
is really talented. That's a really good football team. If
you're a head coach that wants to have your own,
say like you don't, you don't have it. You don't
have it in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I mean, I just if I was Rabele or one
of those other coaches, you don't think Howie Roseman if
Rabel came in, Howie Roseman.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Would I'm not saying he's not going to be attractive,
and I'm not saying that like you don't have a
great roster. I'm just saying if you view a job
and the power you have within that job as one
of your top priorities. Because Rabel's been through an organization
that kneecaptain in Tennessee, they didn't give him the grace
to go through a roster.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You build everything that was needed, and so if.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
You value that and you value you know again having control.
It ain't in Philly because you're you're not talking direct
to the Jeffrey Laurie.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
It's Howie Roseman. Then you.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I mean, lord, now, I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
You did the same thing. What are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I gotta get I was doing work.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
But what do you mean I'm doing work?
Speaker 6 (17:39):
You're work in a different way?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
What is what's the what like?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
What are we missing that one kind of what kind
of work?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
There's a very very clear message. I got.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Your brown sugar right here?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Here we go, white sugar brown. Yeah, some weirdos.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Y'all have two different plates, like a hundred different places
you could be standing in And he's still standing in
the way of me right now.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Hey, by the way, do you guys see uh, he's
still in the way.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Speaking of playoff teams in state Eagles, Steelers, did you
see Lashawn McCoy throughout that if Mike Tomlin loses, maybe
a fresh start elsewhere, maybe go someplace else.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
There's not a shot in hell they.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Want wait away from I don't see how they do that,
But I mean we have seen crazier things happen, right,
I mean, I think that there's something there. There could
be some validity to that if he loses early, because
at some point you got to say, Okay, he's not
(18:45):
having losing.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
The seasons and that is positive. But okay, thank you.
Do you want to come on the show. Do you
want to come on the show?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Say?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Is that music that's playing? Is that what she's talking about?
Because I feel like I can hear music in my headphones.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Can't you? Yeah? You guys here whose phone is on?
It's phone?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I just feel like I can hear music in my headphones.
But anyway, you'd have to assume at some point you're
gonna have the conversation about how far does Mike Tomlin
have to go beyond having a week winning season for
it to be a successful geef a successful year I.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Mean, But it also goes back to what's his quarterback
situation been? My Canny Pickett didn't work out, Russell Wilson
looks like he's slipped a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Was it available for a portion of this?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
At some point there can't be an excuse or a
reason why you're not getting better results.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You know, it's crazy. You gotta ask the question.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
And if you are a franchise, you have to ask
the question, what is your ultimate end goal? And you
would have to assume that every single team has an
end goal of their coach leading their team to a
(20:20):
Super Bowl championship, right, not just an appearance, but a championship.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Mostly doing just trying to find the music.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
And if that is indeed what is taking place with
a franchise, then at what point do you say, we're
going to go in a different direction because we're not
winning a super Bowl with this coach. Yeah, And that
seems kind of unfair because if a team is having success,
(20:55):
if they're having a winning season, if you know, if
they're competitive, you would think that it's like should you
be more tolerant of what's taking place? And I don't
know what the right answer. I don't know what the
right response to that.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
You know what that is? Right?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
So now it brings up a great question because you
see organizations move on from coaches that are successful, but
they have this idea like they can be better, they
want to be better, they want to get to the pinnacle.
I mean, I know you don't like when I bring
up Tiger Woods, but like one of the things that
always blew my mind was when you would hear like
Tiger would have all his success on on the PGA
(21:40):
Tour and then he'd like reinvent his swing. He'd like
go back through and they'd like start over. And it's like, Wow,
a guy who's at the pinnacle of his sport is
reinventing himself in that respect. So like, there's so many,
you know instances I think in sports where you see that,
and even in the business world, you know construction. You know,
maybe some of these people here today are reinventing themselves.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Five lines, not those kind of lines. Five picks, five spreads.
(22:22):
Time for picks against the spread.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, it's definitely not picks against the spread.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Definitely that this is over unders here as we've got
the spread.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
It definitely says baby, it does say it picks against
the spread, which I think we can be flexible, can't we?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Jonas sure we probably could do.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
We just have to do over unders. Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Let's do it all, right?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
What do we got Hey, guys, Jonas teased over unders.
But we're going to picks against the spread, right yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Mean we do it every Friday, but who was paying attention?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
We could we could switch it up. Yeah, go ahead, Lee,
do your thing. Lee, don't listen the Jonas.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Go ahead Lee.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
All right, guys, picks against the spread. Here we go.
Last week was interesting week.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
We had Bengals Steelers where we had an interesting line
between the Bengals and the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Buddy, I love you. We don't have time to recap.
It's we got like three minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Just give us overall and on. Let's kid do it
all right? Wild card weekend, let's do it.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
We have a Chargers at Texans.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Texans are three point favorites at home.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Oh no way, I'm money lining in that one.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I'll take the Chargers sticks.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Thank you. You know what you said?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Who has the the three point advantage charging Texans?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, check Texans. I'm taking the Chargers.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
The money line, Draft Kings three point favorites at home.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I'll take the points of the Chargers. Thank you right now?
Why I got you, bar? Yeah, the Chargers are fav
Chargers are favorite dude, they should be. Where are we
at on this? You can't moneyline the favorite.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
If it's what Lee said, it's not I take charges
are given three, they're giving three.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yes, charge the favorite.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
We should we gather ourselves.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Maybe we should. I guess we're taking.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
If the Chargers are the favorite in this game, they are,
then I'm still taking the Chargers to cover.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I'm laying the three points of the Charges as well.
I haven't seen Chargers at three points. There we go, le,
all right, what's the next one? Steelers at Ravens.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Ravens are nine and a half point favorites.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
At home and a half.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
They will not cover. They will win, but they will
not cover. I'm taking the points.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
What the Ravens Dix picks.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I'll take the points with the Steelers. So for the record,
Labar likes Baltimore might as sign and a half.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Is what he just said. I did you know what
I said.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I'm taking Boltimore to win, but not buy more than
nine points there, so you got to I'm taking the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
I'm gonna lay the points because it looks so off
that I have no idea why that number is so high.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I'm gonna lay the nine oup. I have no other
rate too.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Half yeah, another, but it might actually be accurate exactly.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Let's go another high number from DraftKings on Sunday, Broncos
at the Bills.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Bills are eight and a half point favorites at a
Jeez Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I'll be in a half eight and a half. I'm
laying them again again.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
These numbers are wait too lot, but there's also blowouts
oftentimes in the wildcard round.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I think the Bills will cover, all right.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
All right, moving on, we got sticks picks.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, it's market imaging every time you say it.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Every time we do the imaging, because you're gonna say
I get the imaging every time.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Go ahead. Packers at Eagles.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Eagles are four and a half point favorites at.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Home, laying four and a half of the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Packers are banged up, No, Watson, that's love feeling. I mean,
it's just yeah, I'll take Philly. Yeah, I'm gonna take
Philly as well. They're a cover sticks picks yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Alright, Lee, Commanders at Bucks Bucks three point favorites at home.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Oh, how many favorites? Three?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Tampa Bay?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Hey, money line the Commandos, Yeah, six picks.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I'll take the three points in Washington.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
And hey, let's get a bonus Monday night football game
in here.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
We got Vikings at Rams.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Who knows where it's going to be played, Vikings one
and a half point favorite.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I'll take Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Oh man ooh, Minnesota's I wanna take care I'll take
the point a half with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I think the Rams are going to beat them. I
really do money line. Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (26:55):
The game is tonight, that's right, kickoff seven.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, at the how about them fighting Irish?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So Brady and I were kind of kicking this around
during the break.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
What were you kicking around?
Speaker 9 (27:07):
So if you were to if you are a gambler
and you were to go to draft kicks with some
of these numbers, let you wanted to play some of
the player prop bets. Okay ye, Riley Leonard over under
passing yards for the game's Jeremiah Love over under rushing
yards for the game is at thirty eight. Yeah, So
(27:29):
if you're getting one hundred and seventy in the air
and thirty eight from your best running back.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
How you scoring points?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, that's a problem.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Well so so the love prop bet is a byproduct of, obviously.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
The concern about his injury. And he's going to go.
That's what Marcus Freeman said yesterday. To what extent how
healthy he is, We're going to have to wait and see.
But if you can't go, it'll be jendarium price.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
We've seen Williams two, the freshman in the backfield, and
honestly it's the semi final game like this one.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
This is a deal where I don't know how many
carriers rather thanon's gonna get.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
But I would if you look at his prop bet
for attempts, would I bet it's probably set at twelve
and a half fourteen and a half. I would take
the over because I think the one advantage Notre Dame
has is a running quarterback that, as LeVar knows, it
simplifies things you could do defensively and it puts a
lot of pressure on those safeties to make a decision.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Like are they going to creep down in the box?
Cornerbacks are on islands.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
That opens up things for Jordan Fazon bo Collins, who
had a touchdown last week Faizon, who's got a lot
of speed. Or do you guys just put you know,
a single safety back, one extra guy in the box
and try to play a gap and a half up
front with your defensive line, which may be effective too.
So it's a schematic thing when you've got a quarterback
who can run, because you don't play a lot of
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Manda man, you got to be concerned about that if
you don't have some responsible for the quarterback, and then
it forces pressure on those safeties and making some decisions there.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they head the way.
Not a good side from underdaim though, like those prop bets,
those numbers are very concerning, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like you're gonna have to have more production than two
dor and eight yards from two of your best players
in passing game, running game. I think if you don't
have a healthy love in this game, it totally throws
(29:16):
off the balance of what you're going to try to
establish in this game. And I think for Notre Dame
to have a real opportunity in this game, they have to.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Establish to run. Yeah, I really do.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I think that nothing screams at me that this team
can win the game by passing the ball and that
being their first option. So if someone can't step up
and step in and feel the production or the big,
big play that you could receive from a love in
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the running game, that's going to be a tremendous to me.
That's a disadvantage. A further disadvantage, I will say, for
this injured and banged up you know, Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Team Riley Leonard, I don't see the rushing attempts, but
rushing yards fifty so right around fifty ye.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I mean he had what eighty something in the last game.
He was a leading rush rating. I know, I know
he threw for like ninety yards. But here's how I
see this happening. I don't the hard thing about trying
to establish the run. Again, when you have a quarterback,
it makes things a little easier, but you know, you
almost sometimes have to throw to open it up.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
And I think the hard thing is is for Penn State.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
If I'm scouting them, I'm Tom Allen, their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Everything's short.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I mean, they do have speed the ability to get
behind a defense, but Notre Dame has not done that
very well, or Riley Leonard has not done that very well. So,
like my concerns are if it becomes a game where
Penn State's not respect and getting beat deep, that's a
problem because it's gonna be harder to like all the
quick game, you know, the screens, the RPO, all that stuff.
(31:08):
It's only effective if you get a little bit of space,
a little bit of cushion. And if they're not respecting
any of the past game or the ability for someone
to beat them deep, then they're gonna stack the bucks
to stop the run and say like we're gonna force
a bunch of three and outs, We're gonna limit your possessions.
Because I know Andy KODLENICKI, I know Penn State's offensive
line are some bruisers. They got two great backs and
(31:30):
they're gonna hammer away.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
At running the football. I think this is gonna be
an ugly game.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I think this would be extremely ugly game, like leaning
towards the under, but like it's just gonna be one
of those. It has a big ten feel to it,
you know, old school big ten. I would be shocked
if one team really runs away with it. I think
it's be really tight game. So you like the under
what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I'm leaning towards it. It's a low number.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Is a forty four and a half, forty five and
a half, so like a twenty three to twenty score
a twenty like it feels like that to me. Again,
I'm not factoring in Notre Dame, which I think if
they have an advantage in any part, it's probably special teams.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So we're getting a defensive battle at Joe Robbie Stadium.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
That's exactly what we got.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
I believe that this game will be close, but it
will be deceptively close. And the reason why I believe
it'll be deceptively close is based upon the fact that
if Notre Dame can't run the ball effectively, and not
being able to run the ball effectively and now you're
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talking about they have to lean on and depend on
their ability to pass the ball in this game. I
think that it's problematic for this outfit, and I think
it exposes some things with Notre Dame that may create
(32:58):
it may create difficulties for them being able to generate points,
and if they are, if they are struggling to generate points,
and Penn State does what Georgia should have did, which
Penn State will do. There's no question about it that
Penn State will lean into putting that pressure on Notre
(33:20):
Dame to stop the run and have to stop.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
The run over and over and over again.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I do not know that Notre Dame's defense can hold
up under that type of duress and pressure for four quarters.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
And that would be my That would be what.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
I think is how this game may may play out.
But with that being said, there there is the idea
that there could be big plays generated on offense for
Notre Dame if Penn State is what they need to
(34:01):
be in making sure they do what they need to
do win. Notre Dame desats that they're going to throw
the ball.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I will say this much.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
This has to be a gaming you're excited about because
and I know you're a hyped up about Penn State's
linebackers Tony Rojas, so many of the like good players.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
In that side.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Notre Dame's got a lot of great linebackers too, Like
if there's a position group to watch every single series
on the.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Field, I interview not too long. Yeah, Jack Kay's have
been very very impressive young man.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Well, but all these I mean, both these teams have depth,
They've got athletes, they've got incredible linebackers, Like you can
make the case I think too, like if there's one
position group and I that's gonna like make or break
this game, it's.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Probably the linebacking groups on both these teams.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
And I think that factors in for Notre Dame, like
how do you match up with Tyler Warren and you
know in the passing game and also that and you
know obviously again mistackles, tackles in space, all those things.
But if there's one position group I'd watch that, I'm
excited as like a football geek to watch it's actually
the line backing group. Like these two teams have guys
who are going to be playing in the NFL starting
on Sundays at linebacker, playing special teams forever, Like they're
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those sorts of players.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's got to be frustrating just talking about Jeremiah Love
and Abdull Carter. Look, if they play, they're not it's
clearly not going to be at full capacity.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
And the the best players say that. I would not
say that.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
I would anticipate Abdul Carter being able to play at
a high level too.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
What what why did he finish the last game?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Are the nectar God is going to be pressed?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I believe he was. He was hurt.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
It was hurt in that game, and and it was
obviously it was a you know, I don't want to
say what it Whatever was reported is what it was.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
And it was a testicular. Is that what it was? No, No,
it was his shoulder, it was It wasn't his nuts.
I thought it might be. I thought it might have been.
It was.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, he's out for the rest of the game.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yea, these these are the reason for his sitting out.
That's not going to be the reason. And I do
not believe that. In fact, I would say that abdul
Carter will be a part of why there's so much
pressure on that on that Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Two best prospects though in the game, in my opinion,
ye Weller, Tyler Warren, Abdul Carter.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
I would say, there's a couple, there's a couple of
really really good. I don't think he has to be
one hundred percent for him to have the type of
impact on the game that is going to be if
he were one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Here's the only thing I'll say, I mean, and that's fine,
is if you go back to watch the Georgia game,
Like I really thought Jaylen Walker would have a bigger
impact than he did in that game.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
And he's also held the Proscos Award winner. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
And he really so say like credit credit Joe Rudolph,
the offensive line coach a Notre Dame. Like they've been
able to find ways of nullifying some of those those
players who are you know, again, impactful players.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
I think this is a different this is a different animal.
I think this defense is a little different than Georgia's defense.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Different.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
I think they're they think Georgia was fast and I
think Georgia was physical.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
But I will say.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
That Tom Allen is is a real you know Tim
Tom Tom Tom Tim Allen from Home or Santa Claus,
Santa Claus. He's played that you don't like for tools,
I'm okay with Home improve.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Anyway, however, you're not going to do it.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
I think he's a really good play caller.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
I think he has I think he has shown the
ability to adapt and adjust what he's doing with his
defense in games, which is very very critical to having success.
I just think that this is going to be an
uphill battle for Notre Dame. I really so let me
(38:15):
let me give you success. Let me give you some stats.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
If you held the opponent to under two hundred and
forty five yards total offense, yeah, four of fourteen on
third down, yeah all right, for one on the one
fourth down.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
They should win that game. You should win that game.
But they didn't. That was Georgia last week versus Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
So so one of the things again, and this is
why you play the game, is there's so many like
ball security, right, Georgia turned it over twice, their name,
capitalized on at stripsack, turned into a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
They gave him a special teams touchdown. Like that's the unknown.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
I think that was the I think that that was
the differentiator right the game, right out of half that halftime. Yeah,
that swing, that quick swing with it was fourteen points.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, that that was a very quick swing. I just don't.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
First of all, he's not going to really he's not
going to get the opportunity to return a kick. You
think he shouldn't. Our guys going to kick the ball
out of dan zone. He's going to He's going to
keep it in the end zone. I mean he's he's
six foot, he's a boy's yeah, he's like, he's just
like the dude. It was a number ninety eight, seven
(39:20):
foot man, and he puts all of that seven foot
into that ball.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I mean, he really kicks that ball, really kicks. He
kicks out of that ball.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
But here's the only thing I'll say too in regards
to Jeremiah Love and at his effectiveness in the game.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
He didn't have twenty yards in the last game.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
So like, as much as we want to make his
status and that prop bet number at thirty eight yards
on are good friends with DraftKings, they didn't need it
to win last time.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
It's going to be so frustrating, though, man, Like you like,
you're two of the main reasons those two teams are
where they are. Yeah, and you're going in knowing that
you're way less. I like the fact that's frustrating.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I like the fact that Notre Dame will not be
one hundred going into this game. I like the fact
that they had to fight their way through beating Georgia,
and I like the fact that we really didn't have
to fight.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Or SMU for that matter. I mean, Kevin Jennings is
still throwing interceptions.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
So if we thought by the way we can minimize,
we can minimize the opponents that that Penn State has
gone up against, what I will say. What I will
say is outside of Abdul's shoulder, uh was it whatever?
Outside of DS with with with Abdul and him fighting
(40:49):
through that, this team is very healthy. They're they're really
in a lot of ways, they're very rested because it's
been games that I would would say have been very
very critical games and getting good reps, and so to me,
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I really feel as though, looking at the way it's
set up, it would be a travesty.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
It would be a travesty if.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Notre Dame were to be because the only way they
can win this game is the same way they won
their last game, which is Penn State will have to
be out coached.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
So what you're saying is it would be bad for
college football if Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
No, it would be bad for James Franklin if Notre
Dame wins.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
And I'm being honest,
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Penn State and it's the Range Bowl going down. LeVar
has got a necklace that says linebacker you that costs
more than my truck.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
So you are hotel? What they say? Get up? Stop sleeping?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Why were what was going on?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I was acting like Lee.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
LeVar has already been celebrating Penn State's victory tonight, so
he is foreshadowing of victory.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I don't think I was celebrating our victory.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I was just it was a pre celebration. Can I
say this much?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Just from watching some of the coaches press conference, James
Franklin seemed to be a lot more relaxed, a lot looser,
you know, some of the comments that he talked about
Marcus Freeman's hairline, talked about joining a conference airline.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
He uh, but tell me, did you did it.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Feel like he looked more comfortable, like I mean, Marcus
was locked in. But it also I think can sometimes
can come off as a little bit maybe some nervous
energy and looked like he wanted to fight right and
right then and there, and it looked like he wanted
to hug. Yeah, And it felt like there was like
almost like a father son moment, like I've been around
the block for a while. This is you know, like
let me show you son.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Like I'm like, all right, that's how you.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Neither one of them have been here before, correct, neither one,
But but.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
James has been in some big games before.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
They didn't go to the Wunch Bowl the year they
won the Big Ten? What bullding him? Did they go to?
I don't know I'll have to go back and check.
That's a good question. Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
I thought the year they.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Were really like ready to just stay like where I'm at,
and you made me want to think.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I don't, I don't want cannot. Can you turn me up?
Where am I at? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:04):
My headphone at where we are? Where's my headphone? Where's
a snare?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
He's more yeah right there? All right, but yeah, but
turn me up in my headphone. Yeah that's a little hot,
all right, but turn me up in my airphone though, right,
we're making so So they've played in everything var but
the Orange Bowl. He's been in the Rose, the Fiesta,
the Cotton Bowl, the Rose again, the Peaceful.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
So it's literally been every bowl but this. So there
you go check this off the box.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Hell yeah, well it's again it's a first for both
teams in terms of it being the college football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
That's that's all.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Right, this is listen. We can we can get.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Into the world's silly. My pants are silly.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Can we just talk about what the hell happened last night?
Travel stories?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
What would do?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
What happened with you guys? The travel story for me
was I came straight here and I didn't go back
to my hotel. He got a good nap though, because
I did not want to miss the show. I know
you're adicated individual. This guy just ran up on me
and he was like, sir, get up. I looked at him.
(04:24):
I was like, what the hell.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
He was?
Speaker 6 (04:33):
He was correct, he was correct, and I was incorrect.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
That's all that really mastered.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
When I walked in, I see a security guy walking
more towards the door, and I see LeVar walking across
there like main bar area.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I did.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I did not feel like what you did was acceptable
or appropriate.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Open the door for you. No, you laughed and you
said are you coming?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I was like, straight from being out?
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I was like, oh my god, Johnson, Oh my gosh,
walking up Johnson, are you coming from being straight out?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes? I am.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Where'd you go?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I will never tell no, no, nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I know where you started. Where did that start?
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Do you want to say? I know you want to eat?
You told me you were going to eat? Okay, Yeah,
where I go? Jiselle? Yes, how was that? It's good? Yeah,
it's good. It's a Brazilian food. Yeah, maybe that's a
good call. Actually, we told me that. I was like, yeah,
I'm god of food, that.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Is, But I swear I was guessing because I was.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
It was. It was almost like a fusion of Brazilian
food maybe got fused.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
What's in here? Lee was coffee? Lee was all about here.
Lee was all about the fu.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We all.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Second, you just assume Lee's got what like uh like
rum and there is no he's got He's got creamer
right there in the white. So he's got a creamer
some sugars for you.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So where's the where's the are you so listening?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I do mine black?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So I'm good like this. This is gonna be it's
gonna be a battle.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
It's gonna be a you know what though, when that
buffet comes opening, We'll get you some food.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
It's gonna be great. Hey man, this is going to
be a tough show for me. But I mean, if
it's only happened one time where I have to have
a tough show, I mean I'm responsible with ninety nine
point nine nine percent of the time outside of this.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
One point of the time. Can I ask you, Lee,
did you end up one of the elbow room last night?
I tried, you know, I tried to hop in my way.
It didn't go didn't make didn't make that thirsty say.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
No, we we left out. We were at batolo By?
Which is that place? Did you realize? The response?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Well, yeah, they were together. We go Did you go
to the elbrow WORLM? Well, okay, hold.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
On, are you going to today? Are you going to today?
Before you leave?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
He's not. I have time. You probably go for They
open early, he's not. They'll be open mid days. You know.
Let me check my schedule. He got time.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I think it's gonna be a good beach day.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'll put on my pink shorts. Why do you not
have real sugar?
Speaker 8 (07:36):
Because I brought four different types of sugar?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
All the sugars they have? See this? You know what? Yes,
somebody brown should I usually for me? It was not
brown shu, it was well, I did sugar for mylf.
Trying to figure out what type of sugar? Brady? What
(08:01):
kind of sugar? You guys? I can't focus. That's great.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
I want to entertain what Brady's doing. I wish I
wish you walking to see me.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
When I walked in though, because I was like, I
toltdal goes, how is this gonna work out?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
The valet took me about twenty five minutes in my car,
but as Susan.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Valley walked out, it's like, hey, perfect time, the perfect time.
That's what they call me, baby every time I walk in.
Look at me when I walked in and he just
he's just in his zone. Get through the door. There's
all I want to tell you, guys.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
If I have some sort of live read, you guys
gotta do it for me.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Okay, that's all I want to say.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
You mean, I can jump in here whatever it is
that I have, express bros.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Okay, we don't have me at the end of this segment.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Yeah, the first first hour, I got an hour to
clear myself up.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I will clear my shoes have come off. Well, they
weren't on, That's true, they never were.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
I was attacked by the hotel security. I was not approached.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
You yelled at me when I tried to wake you
at that you were I walked up to get a coffee.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
The only the only reason I knew that it was
you was because I saw your chain.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
I was like, oh, I thought, man.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Somebody had a rough night.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
I was like, that's the only way I stirred him
up was I started stroking.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Jesus, I was so irresponsible. I don't think stroked anyone else.
I was.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I was so irresponsible. So I can say I got
hard rocked.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
No. I was like, I'm telling you that place is fun. Man.
It was not heart rocked. It was not. But I'm here,
I'm here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I gotta get. I gotta get Brady credit man. Vodka
sas voca.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
What does that mean? I take credit for that.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Have you ever had like a spicy vodka sauce? So
I'm going to send you.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
There's a place called Carbones, which we also had a debate.
I've heard of Carbo.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So we had a debate about.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
We had a debate about East Coast West coast food,
and you got.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Very territorial over West Coast food. And so Jonas tries
to spicy vodka sauce if it's holo and he was like,
and I was like, yeah, the food's better on the
East Coast, especially like Italian.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It's good, but it ain't spicy.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Why you said territorial?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Man?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Who cares? Let's just say.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
He likes Mexican spicy Vodkasa spicy Okay, you put pepper.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Spice is not the same as West Coast.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
By the way, if you want to have a spice off,
you'll get that work.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I'm with you, I with you, with both of you. Yeah,
you're misconstruing what the sauce is good. That's what. Yes,
it is good. I'm gonna send you, guys, Carbone spicy
vodka sauce.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Car standing man, you put somebody to send me some sober.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
And send me some please, somebody.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You can eat this. You can eat this.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I was really upset with the hotel security, and that
should be he was. He was correct. There's no way
I'm going back to my room.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I'm you know, it's gonna be great. As he's that
guy's gonna be watching the game tonight. He's gonna see
you on the side by. There could be like all football.
Wait a second, that was in the loppy.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I can't even remember.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Fans are unbuckled.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I cannot remember who he was, and I'm trying to
remember the moment I had Lee. It wasn't Lee. It
was the moment I had with Brady in hair. I
just didn't want to be late.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
And somewhere you're here, Michael give me a drink next break,
I got one ready.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Is the one time Lee can get away with being
Lee with me is today. I will enjoy it, enjoy
it because I judge you every other day.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Today I shall not Lee.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
How many did you have when you got back here
last night?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I ponied up to the bar. I had two G
and t's. You had wanted dinner that I saw? Yeah,
you get squirrely after the wine. Well are my Are
my pants crazy or what they're? They're different, but.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Different A lot of a lot of pockets you can
put off what you talking. I'm just saying there's one
right there in the middle. I haven't seen a pocket.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I mean their cargo pants, So they're going to have
pockets that I was talking about. Hey buddy, I was
talking about that's our tech guy. Yeah, I was. Why
do we have Steve? Why do we have a curt Now?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Hey buddy, why do we have a kurt Us? I
think it's to help with the sound. Maybe I'm not.
It's nice they whoever did it, those pretty someone put
it together.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
So I almost feel is though trying to keep the
fans away.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
That's fine.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
So now after doing the show yesterday, do you kind
of get a feeling.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, back and forth.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, makes sense, I.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Got, I got. I gotta say. I don't really like
this hour. I don't like the barrier.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I don't like it. Yeah, like, if you move the curtain,
can you open it up? I just don't feel like
it should be there.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Yeah, all right, I just don't feel like it should
be there.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
These muting mics that don't even know whose mic it is.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, all right, So we'll give you a live play
by place.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
There's a barrier with an orange banner in front of
just slide.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I'm trying to actual slide. Oh my gosh, you're gonna
break most of the top. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
In front of us is trying to.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Move the banner to the side so people can see
us because there's like a crowd intelligence.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Dude, we're basically like Monica Winz. Get there. Bill Clint's
hiding us on desk.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Now that's a cigar.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I feel like an employee of one right now?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, what what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What do you mean by that? Screw? Oh man?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
All right, I just feel like I don't have to
be all the way a one hundred right.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
God man, you're out your mind with something.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Like that, show man, I'm just trying to recover. Yeah,
and what Lee just did really gave me motion sickness
with no results.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 2 (15:31):
App The Eagles looked like they might be getting some
good news though, because apparently Jalen Hurts practiced, still fighting
through the concussion, but the expectation is that he's going
to play for Philadelphia this upcoming weekend against the Green
Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I've got a hypothetical I want to throw at
you guys.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Okay, what's that hypothetical?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
If Philly goes one and done?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Ooh, green Bay beats him, Oh beat him at home,
and they got to do.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Could big Sirianni get canned?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Well?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Does that open up the door for them to make
a move?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Listen, you always talk about today you want to make
you always talk about I mean, if you're Vrabel, is
that not immediately the best job available?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Who do you want to make a move for? Oh?
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It all depends on how you view, like what that
job is. If you want a job where you have
complete autonomy, that's probably not that job. We know Howie
Roseman is. You know that it's going to be the
shot collar there. So there's a difference in my opinion
of how you view that job. Just because the roster
(16:38):
is really talented. That's a really good football team. If
you're a head coach that wants to have your own,
say like you don't, you don't have it. You don't
have it in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I mean, I just if I was Rabele or one
of those other coaches, you don't think Howie Roseman if
Rabel came in, Howie Roseman.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Would I'm not saying he's not going to be attractive,
and I'm not saying that like you don't have a
great roster. I'm just saying if you view a job
and the power you have within that job as one
of your top priorities. Because Rabel's been through an organization
that kneecaptain in Tennessee, they didn't give him the grace
to go through a roster.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You build everything that was needed, and so if.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
You value that and you value you know again having control.
It ain't in Philly because you're you're not talking direct
to the Jeffrey Laurie.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
It's Howie Roseman. Then you.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I mean, lord, now, I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
You did the same thing. What are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I gotta get I was doing work.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
But what do you mean I'm doing work?
Speaker 6 (17:39):
You're work in a different way?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
What is what's the what like?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
What are we missing that one kind of what kind
of work?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
There's a very very clear message. I got.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Your brown sugar right here?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Here we go, white sugar brown. Yeah, some weirdos.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Y'all have two different plates, like a hundred different places
you could be standing in And he's still standing in
the way of me right now.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Hey, by the way, do you guys see uh, he's
still in the way.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Speaking of playoff teams in state Eagles, Steelers, did you
see Lashawn McCoy throughout that if Mike Tomlin loses, maybe
a fresh start elsewhere, maybe go someplace else.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
There's not a shot in hell they.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Want wait away from I don't see how they do that,
But I mean we have seen crazier things happen, right,
I mean, I think that there's something there. There could
be some validity to that if he loses early, because
at some point you got to say, Okay, he's not
(18:45):
having losing.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
The seasons and that is positive. But okay, thank you.
Do you want to come on the show. Do you
want to come on the show?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Say?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Is that music that's playing? Is that what she's talking about?
Because I feel like I can hear music in my headphones.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Can't you? Yeah? You guys here whose phone is on?
It's phone?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I just feel like I can hear music in my headphones.
But anyway, you'd have to assume at some point you're
gonna have the conversation about how far does Mike Tomlin
have to go beyond having a week winning season for
it to be a successful geef a successful year I.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Mean, But it also goes back to what's his quarterback
situation been? My Canny Pickett didn't work out, Russell Wilson
looks like he's slipped a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Was it available for a portion of this?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
At some point there can't be an excuse or a
reason why you're not getting better results.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You know, it's crazy. You gotta ask the question.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
And if you are a franchise, you have to ask
the question, what is your ultimate end goal? And you
would have to assume that every single team has an
end goal of their coach leading their team to a
(20:20):
Super Bowl championship, right, not just an appearance, but a championship.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Mostly doing just trying to find the music.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
And if that is indeed what is taking place with
a franchise, then at what point do you say, we're
going to go in a different direction because we're not
winning a super Bowl with this coach. Yeah, And that
seems kind of unfair because if a team is having success,
(20:55):
if they're having a winning season, if you know, if
they're competitive, you would think that it's like should you
be more tolerant of what's taking place? And I don't
know what the right answer. I don't know what the
right response to that.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
You know what that is? Right?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
So now it brings up a great question because you
see organizations move on from coaches that are successful, but
they have this idea like they can be better, they
want to be better, they want to get to the pinnacle.
I mean, I know you don't like when I bring
up Tiger Woods, but like one of the things that
always blew my mind was when you would hear like
Tiger would have all his success on on the PGA
(21:40):
Tour and then he'd like reinvent his swing. He'd like
go back through and they'd like start over. And it's like, Wow,
a guy who's at the pinnacle of his sport is
reinventing himself in that respect. So like, there's so many,
you know instances I think in sports where you see that,
and even in the business world, you know construction. You know,
maybe some of these people here today are reinventing themselves.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
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Five lines, not those kind of lines. Five picks, five spreads.
(22:22):
Time for picks against the spread.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, it's definitely not picks against the spread.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Definitely that this is over unders here as we've got
the spread.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
It definitely says baby, it does say it picks against
the spread, which I think we can be flexible, can't we?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Jonas sure we probably could do.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
We just have to do over unders. Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Let's do it all, right?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
What do we got Hey, guys, Jonas teased over unders.
But we're going to picks against the spread, right yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Mean we do it every Friday, but who was paying attention?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
We could we could switch it up. Yeah, go ahead, Lee,
do your thing. Lee, don't listen the Jonas.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Go ahead Lee.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
All right, guys, picks against the spread. Here we go.
Last week was interesting week.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
We had Bengals Steelers where we had an interesting line
between the Bengals and the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Buddy, I love you. We don't have time to recap.
It's we got like three minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Just give us overall and on. Let's kid do it
all right? Wild card weekend, let's do it.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
We have a Chargers at Texans.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Texans are three point favorites at home.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Oh no way, I'm money lining in that one.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I'll take the Chargers sticks.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Thank you. You know what you said?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Who has the the three point advantage charging Texans?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, check Texans. I'm taking the Chargers.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
The money line, Draft Kings three point favorites at home.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I'll take the points of the Chargers. Thank you right now?
Why I got you, bar? Yeah, the Chargers are fav
Chargers are favorite dude, they should be. Where are we
at on this? You can't moneyline the favorite.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
If it's what Lee said, it's not I take charges
are given three, they're giving three.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yes, charge the favorite.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
We should we gather ourselves.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Maybe we should. I guess we're taking.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
If the Chargers are the favorite in this game, they are,
then I'm still taking the Chargers to cover.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I'm laying the three points of the Charges as well.
I haven't seen Chargers at three points. There we go, le,
all right, what's the next one? Steelers at Ravens.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Ravens are nine and a half point favorites.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
At home and a half.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
They will not cover. They will win, but they will
not cover. I'm taking the points.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
What the Ravens Dix picks.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I'll take the points with the Steelers. So for the record,
Labar likes Baltimore might as sign and a half.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Is what he just said. I did you know what
I said.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I'm taking Boltimore to win, but not buy more than
nine points there, so you got to I'm taking the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
I'm gonna lay the points because it looks so off
that I have no idea why that number is so high.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I'm gonna lay the nine oup. I have no other
rate too.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Half yeah, another, but it might actually be accurate exactly.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Let's go another high number from DraftKings on Sunday, Broncos
at the Bills.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Bills are eight and a half point favorites at a
Jeez Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I'll be in a half eight and a half. I'm
laying them again again.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
These numbers are wait too lot, but there's also blowouts
oftentimes in the wildcard round.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I think the Bills will cover, all right.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
All right, moving on, we got sticks picks.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, it's market imaging every time you say it.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Every time we do the imaging, because you're gonna say
I get the imaging every time.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Go ahead. Packers at Eagles.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Eagles are four and a half point favorites at.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Home, laying four and a half of the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Packers are banged up, No, Watson, that's love feeling. I mean,
it's just yeah, I'll take Philly. Yeah, I'm gonna take
Philly as well. They're a cover sticks picks yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Alright, Lee, Commanders at Bucks Bucks three point favorites at home.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Oh, how many favorites? Three?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Tampa Bay?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Hey, money line the Commandos, Yeah, six picks.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I'll take the three points in Washington.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
And hey, let's get a bonus Monday night football game
in here.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
We got Vikings at Rams.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Who knows where it's going to be played, Vikings one
and a half point favorite.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I'll take Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Oh man ooh, Minnesota's I wanna take care I'll take
the point a half with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I think the Rams are going to beat them. I
really do money line. Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (26:55):
The game is tonight, that's right, kickoff seven.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, at the how about them fighting Irish?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So Brady and I were kind of kicking this around
during the break.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
What were you kicking around?
Speaker 9 (27:07):
So if you were to if you are a gambler
and you were to go to draft kicks with some
of these numbers, let you wanted to play some of
the player prop bets. Okay ye, Riley Leonard over under
passing yards for the game's Jeremiah Love over under rushing
yards for the game is at thirty eight. Yeah, So
(27:29):
if you're getting one hundred and seventy in the air
and thirty eight from your best running back.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
How you scoring points?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, that's a problem.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Well so so the love prop bet is a byproduct of, obviously.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
The concern about his injury. And he's going to go.
That's what Marcus Freeman said yesterday. To what extent how
healthy he is, We're going to have to wait and see.
But if you can't go, it'll be jendarium price.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
We've seen Williams two, the freshman in the backfield, and
honestly it's the semi final game like this one.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
This is a deal where I don't know how many
carriers rather thanon's gonna get.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
But I would if you look at his prop bet
for attempts, would I bet it's probably set at twelve
and a half fourteen and a half. I would take
the over because I think the one advantage Notre Dame
has is a running quarterback that, as LeVar knows, it
simplifies things you could do defensively and it puts a
lot of pressure on those safeties to make a decision.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Like are they going to creep down in the box?
Cornerbacks are on islands.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
That opens up things for Jordan Fazon bo Collins, who
had a touchdown last week Faizon, who's got a lot
of speed. Or do you guys just put you know,
a single safety back, one extra guy in the box
and try to play a gap and a half up
front with your defensive line, which may be effective too.
So it's a schematic thing when you've got a quarterback
who can run, because you don't play a lot of
(28:47):
Manda man, you got to be concerned about that if
you don't have some responsible for the quarterback, and then
it forces pressure on those safeties and making some decisions there.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they head the way.
Not a good side from underdaim though, like those prop bets,
those numbers are very concerning, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like you're gonna have to have more production than two
dor and eight yards from two of your best players
in passing game, running game. I think if you don't
have a healthy love in this game, it totally throws
(29:16):
off the balance of what you're going to try to
establish in this game. And I think for Notre Dame
to have a real opportunity in this game, they have to.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Establish to run. Yeah, I really do.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I think that nothing screams at me that this team
can win the game by passing the ball and that
being their first option. So if someone can't step up
and step in and feel the production or the big,
big play that you could receive from a love in
(29:56):
the running game, that's going to be a tremendous to me.
That's a disadvantage. A further disadvantage, I will say, for
this injured and banged up you know, Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Team Riley Leonard, I don't see the rushing attempts, but
rushing yards fifty so right around fifty ye.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I mean he had what eighty something in the last game.
He was a leading rush rating. I know, I know
he threw for like ninety yards. But here's how I
see this happening. I don't the hard thing about trying
to establish the run. Again, when you have a quarterback,
it makes things a little easier, but you know, you
almost sometimes have to throw to open it up.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
And I think the hard thing is is for Penn State.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
If I'm scouting them, I'm Tom Allen, their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Everything's short.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I mean, they do have speed the ability to get
behind a defense, but Notre Dame has not done that
very well, or Riley Leonard has not done that very well. So,
like my concerns are if it becomes a game where
Penn State's not respect and getting beat deep, that's a
problem because it's gonna be harder to like all the
quick game, you know, the screens, the RPO, all that stuff.
(31:08):
It's only effective if you get a little bit of space,
a little bit of cushion. And if they're not respecting
any of the past game or the ability for someone
to beat them deep, then they're gonna stack the bucks
to stop the run and say like we're gonna force
a bunch of three and outs, We're gonna limit your possessions.
Because I know Andy KODLENICKI, I know Penn State's offensive
line are some bruisers. They got two great backs and
(31:30):
they're gonna hammer away.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
At running the football. I think this is gonna be
an ugly game.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I think this would be extremely ugly game, like leaning
towards the under, but like it's just gonna be one
of those. It has a big ten feel to it,
you know, old school big ten. I would be shocked
if one team really runs away with it. I think
it's be really tight game. So you like the under
what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I'm leaning towards it. It's a low number.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Is a forty four and a half, forty five and
a half, so like a twenty three to twenty score
a twenty like it feels like that to me. Again,
I'm not factoring in Notre Dame, which I think if
they have an advantage in any part, it's probably special teams.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So we're getting a defensive battle at Joe Robbie Stadium.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
That's exactly what we got.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
I believe that this game will be close, but it
will be deceptively close. And the reason why I believe
it'll be deceptively close is based upon the fact that
if Notre Dame can't run the ball effectively, and not
being able to run the ball effectively and now you're
(32:36):
talking about they have to lean on and depend on
their ability to pass the ball in this game. I
think that it's problematic for this outfit, and I think
it exposes some things with Notre Dame that may create
(32:58):
it may create difficulties for them being able to generate points,
and if they are, if they are struggling to generate points,
and Penn State does what Georgia should have did, which
Penn State will do. There's no question about it that
Penn State will lean into putting that pressure on Notre
(33:20):
Dame to stop the run and have to stop.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
The run over and over and over again.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I do not know that Notre Dame's defense can hold
up under that type of duress and pressure for four quarters.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
And that would be my That would be what.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
I think is how this game may may play out.
But with that being said, there there is the idea
that there could be big plays generated on offense for
Notre Dame if Penn State is what they need to
(34:01):
be in making sure they do what they need to
do win. Notre Dame desats that they're going to throw
the ball.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I will say this much.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
This has to be a gaming you're excited about because
and I know you're a hyped up about Penn State's
linebackers Tony Rojas, so many of the like good players.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
In that side.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Notre Dame's got a lot of great linebackers too, Like
if there's a position group to watch every single series
on the.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Field, I interview not too long. Yeah, Jack Kay's have
been very very impressive young man.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Well, but all these I mean, both these teams have depth,
They've got athletes, they've got incredible linebackers, Like you can
make the case I think too, like if there's one
position group and I that's gonna like make or break
this game, it's.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Probably the linebacking groups on both these teams.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
And I think that factors in for Notre Dame, like
how do you match up with Tyler Warren and you
know in the passing game and also that and you
know obviously again mistackles, tackles in space, all those things.
But if there's one position group I'd watch that, I'm
excited as like a football geek to watch it's actually
the line backing group. Like these two teams have guys
who are going to be playing in the NFL starting
on Sundays at linebacker, playing special teams forever, Like they're
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those sorts of players.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's got to be frustrating just talking about Jeremiah Love
and Abdull Carter. Look, if they play, they're not it's
clearly not going to be at full capacity.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
And the the best players say that. I would not
say that.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
I would anticipate Abdul Carter being able to play at
a high level too.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
What what why did he finish the last game?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Are the nectar God is going to be pressed?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I believe he was. He was hurt.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
It was hurt in that game, and and it was
obviously it was a you know, I don't want to
say what it Whatever was reported is what it was.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
And it was a testicular. Is that what it was? No, No,
it was his shoulder, it was It wasn't his nuts.
I thought it might be. I thought it might have been.
It was.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, he's out for the rest of the game.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yea, these these are the reason for his sitting out.
That's not going to be the reason. And I do
not believe that. In fact, I would say that abdul
Carter will be a part of why there's so much
pressure on that on that Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Two best prospects though in the game, in my opinion,
ye Weller, Tyler Warren, Abdul Carter.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
I would say, there's a couple, there's a couple of
really really good. I don't think he has to be
one hundred percent for him to have the type of
impact on the game that is going to be if
he were one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Here's the only thing I'll say, I mean, and that's fine,
is if you go back to watch the Georgia game,
Like I really thought Jaylen Walker would have a bigger
impact than he did in that game.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
And he's also held the Proscos Award winner. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
And he really so say like credit credit Joe Rudolph,
the offensive line coach a Notre Dame. Like they've been
able to find ways of nullifying some of those those
players who are you know, again, impactful players.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
I think this is a different this is a different animal.
I think this defense is a little different than Georgia's defense.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Different.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
I think they're they think Georgia was fast and I
think Georgia was physical.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
But I will say.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
That Tom Allen is is a real you know Tim
Tom Tom Tom Tim Allen from Home or Santa Claus,
Santa Claus. He's played that you don't like for tools,
I'm okay with Home improve.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Anyway, however, you're not going to do it.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
I think he's a really good play caller.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
I think he has I think he has shown the
ability to adapt and adjust what he's doing with his
defense in games, which is very very critical to having success.
I just think that this is going to be an
uphill battle for Notre Dame. I really so let me
(38:15):
let me give you success. Let me give you some stats.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
If you held the opponent to under two hundred and
forty five yards total offense, yeah, four of fourteen on
third down, yeah all right, for one on the one
fourth down.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
They should win that game. You should win that game.
But they didn't. That was Georgia last week versus Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
So so one of the things again, and this is
why you play the game, is there's so many like
ball security, right, Georgia turned it over twice, their name,
capitalized on at stripsack, turned into a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
They gave him a special teams touchdown. Like that's the unknown.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
I think that was the I think that that was
the differentiator right the game, right out of half that halftime. Yeah,
that swing, that quick swing with it was fourteen points.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, that that was a very quick swing. I just don't.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
First of all, he's not going to really he's not
going to get the opportunity to return a kick. You
think he shouldn't. Our guys going to kick the ball
out of dan zone. He's going to He's going to
keep it in the end zone. I mean he's he's
six foot, he's a boy's yeah, he's like, he's just
like the dude. It was a number ninety eight, seven
(39:20):
foot man, and he puts all of that seven foot
into that ball.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I mean, he really kicks that ball, really kicks. He
kicks out of that ball.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
But here's the only thing I'll say too in regards
to Jeremiah Love and at his effectiveness in the game.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
He didn't have twenty yards in the last game.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
So like, as much as we want to make his
status and that prop bet number at thirty eight yards
on are good friends with DraftKings, they didn't need it
to win last time.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
It's going to be so frustrating, though, man, Like you like,
you're two of the main reasons those two teams are
where they are. Yeah, and you're going in knowing that
you're way less. I like the fact that's frustrating.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I like the fact that Notre Dame will not be
one hundred going into this game. I like the fact
that they had to fight their way through beating Georgia,
and I like the fact that we really didn't have
to fight.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Or SMU for that matter. I mean, Kevin Jennings is
still throwing interceptions.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
So if we thought by the way we can minimize,
we can minimize the opponents that that Penn State has
gone up against, what I will say. What I will
say is outside of Abdul's shoulder, uh was it whatever?
Outside of DS with with with Abdul and him fighting
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through that, this team is very healthy. They're they're really
in a lot of ways, they're very rested because it's
been games that I would would say have been very
very critical games and getting good reps, and so to me,
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I really feel as though, looking at the way it's
set up, it would be a travesty.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
It would be a travesty if.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Notre Dame were to be because the only way they
can win this game is the same way they won
their last game, which is Penn State will have to
be out coached.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
So what you're saying is it would be bad for
college football if Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
No, it would be bad for James Franklin if Notre
Dame wins.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
And I'm being honest,
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