January 10, 2025 • 41 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington kick things off by grilling Producer Lee! Next, they dive into the Minnesota Vikings vs. Los Angeles Rams game being relocated to State Farm Stadium in Arizona from SoFi Stadium due to the fires affecting Los Angeles. Tune in for all that and much more!
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So Brady, have got a quick lead to lap update.
Lee What did you use to hold that door open
a stick of de oder?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
What door do you need to hold the hold open?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So the hotel, he went outside to make it call
and he goes outside, My old spice, it's the it's
the door by the pool. So he took a stick
of the odor.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
He's got door opens.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
The fact that Lee has deodorant is another thing that
is a win.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So that is a win, my old quick.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Lee, who are you calling?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
I'm calling the studio.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
What were you calling about?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
You know, work stuff, behind the scenes things.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Lee, Why can't you just say what the hell you
were calling about?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
We were calling about a read that we were doing
during the during the break.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Okay, by the way, Lee, you got butchered last Yeah, fine,
right now, But.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
He looked like he was in outer space.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Who were you?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Like, h, how many? Because you're doing G and t's right, yeah,
yeah a few of those.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Look you could tell about the way he's responding that
he's still like banged up a.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Little talking about him totally fun, no way, no way.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
The same thing too that you were the day before.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Well, like we have talked about, I only have a
few things to work with, right, Yeah, if you don't
remember Edwards your hands went.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Through his.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Care. He's definitely worn his outfit at least every single
time I've seen him now because now that now that
job mentioned it, like he's worn this same outfit.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But I did, I did just yeah, I did just
throw this on.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Ve bed.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I asked you in the in the elevator, by the way,
because as I f forget where we're going, maybe we're
going to get water or coffee or something yesterday.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Like it's on the elevator.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He goes, Yeah, the hotels charged me twice, double charge me.
I've really got to talk to him about that. And
I was like, oh, yeah, man, it's me. Case's put
in a credit card or something. You go, yeah, man,
but I need the money. I'm out of money right now,
which they keep charging you.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It probably back to your fantasy league. Yeah people, yeah it.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
No, they're they're fine. What do you mean they're fine?
That's their money, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It is their money. Yeah, they'll get their money.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 8 (03:51):
I mean, so basically, all of a sudden, this hotel
has now somehow responsible for your fantasy leagues out because
you didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Pay them and you spent the money.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Yeah, we'll blame blame the hotel.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You spent the money, yeah, because the hotel double charged me.
The account Lee Fantasy.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Has nothing to do with the cash you got earlier
for your fantasy league that you spent like weeks ago.
Speaker 9 (04:24):
What did you what did you spend it on? Bombay? Hendricks?
What did you Hendricks? I don't like Bombay? Oh god,
well he's on that.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Actually actually not a big fan of Hendricks either. But
but but it beats water.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
Well I'm all out of water, so Hendricks it is.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh lord, all right, Well listen. It took a little while,
but uh, you know, one NFL team has decided to
make the move. Tom Telasco, the general manager of the
Raiders no more, two days after they fired Antonio Piercer
head coach. Tom Telesco is gone one year after he
was originally hired. So, I mean, I guess they cleaned
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house completely. We were talking about just sort of the
Teeter Totter of you keep your GM, but you fire
your coach or vice versa. They did it in Tennessee,
They've done it in other places. I mean, at least
the Raiders are clearing house. I'm just trying to figure
out what changed in two days.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
I don't think anything changed in two days. I think
there's a plan that's being executed. And as much as
I would say, I do not like the fact that
they got rid of Antonio Pierce under the circumstances that
they did. If you bring in a new ownership person,
you have a group come in. Tom Brady is a
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part of that. It's been discussed that he's going to
be a part of helping revamp and rebuild what's going
on with the Raiders. So if you're choosing to go
in a different direction, but you only fired the head
coach after the head coach did not have a roster
that should have been able to win, I don't like
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the way that felt. I don't like the way it sounded.
But then you execute further a decision that makes you
feel as though they're setting the stage for what should
take place if you're going to try to build what
you're going to build and being a winner. And we
talked about this on the show yesterday, which is a
relationship that's strong between the GM and the coach, and
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that seems as though that would be the most feasible
understanding an idea of what this decision represents.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
This decision represents.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
To me, you're clearing it all out, You've leveled it,
and now you're going to truly build whatever it is
that you're going to build in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I'm with you on that. I think my question is
more of like the timing. You know, why did it
take them what two days after? Yeah, I mean I
wonder if they had spoken to some potential candidates or
had just gotten win that. I mean, look, man, I'd
love to interview there, but I'm not gonna even entertain
that if Tom Tellusko's there.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And maybe that's because they got someone else in mind.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Maybe it's because they feel like Telesco ultimately would be
a part of the hiring process, so they'd feel like
they would be underneath Tom Telluska. I mean, these are
always power struggles at this time of the year and
how they go about hiring who first. So I do wonder,
with the timing of it being so odd, why won't
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you just clean house with everyone?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I mean, who knows? You know, I mean, I know
Belichick is saying that, you know, he wants to stay
in North Carolina, and there's reports that you know, he's
got no interest in leaving, but you know, it does
open the door for Belichick to be able to bring
whoever he wants in. You know, Tom Brady has spoken
to him, so you know, maybe maybe that gets done.
Maybe Belichick to the Raiders becomes more of a possibility
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if Tom felasco goes out along with Antonio Peers.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
You know, I don't really know the reasoning behind the
staggered you know, decision making. I'm with you there, Q
on why why not just you know, clean sweep it,
just say everybody's gone. But there's, you know, for me,
the idea of it of maybe there's something legally speaking
that you know, don't I don't know if there's some
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type of backstory. I just know there's some reason why
they did it the way that they did it. And again,
I think that the conversation points were very valid in
terms of what we were discussing about these first year
head coaches and how I mean, you got to be
honest and in some of these cases they were let
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down by the lack of personnel that was on their teams.
And so how do you hold a coach unless you
are using that coach as a placeholder. How do you
hold a coach accountable for the lack of success when
the GM did not team up with him and provide
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him with the type of players that would lend to
them having a competitive season. So I almost felt as though,
if that's the direction you're going in getting rid of
a new coach after one season with the circumstances they
were facing, then it makes sense to have to get
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rid of the decision maker at the GM position. And
so some of these guys aren't as bulletproof as they
thought they were.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I mean, shouldn't they have at least gotten another year?
Both of them? To LESCo just got there. It's like
a one and done GM. I don't know, man, just
everything feels like it's quick unless they've got a better
plan in place. I don't know that I agree with
the move you just to turn and burn him after
a year, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I mean, it made more sense for Pierce to stay
than Telesco for based on this past year. I mean,
what did you give Antonio Pierce to work with? Like,
ultimately he's not the one that's responsible for their roster,
the roster construction, that's Telesco, And you dropped the ball
to start the season. But the way you went about
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the quarterback position, I just keep going back to that,
and you got fooled in the draft.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You didn't find anything, and the veteran market free agencies
there you are, like, this is where you found yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I just I look at that and go, that was
Telesco's fumble and he knows that division well, he was
with the Charges forever. I sit there just looking and go,
how does that happen? I'm surprised that Tellesco wasn't let
go first. And then they consumplated more with Thantonio Pierce
in some of the fight that team showed.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
How good of a job is the Raiders job? Like,
I know the market in the vibe and everyone feels good,
But I just wonder if a deterrent is, dude, you
have no solution at quarterback and you're in that division, Like,
what's like, how do you win there in the next
decade if you don't have a quarterback? And I just
I wonder like where, like how appealing is that job
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in comparison to other places around the league.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Depends on the infrastructure. Yeah, well yeah, that's funny. I mean,
it does depend on if you like the game. I
think it's infrastructural things that need to take place with
with the Las Vegas Raiders. I think that it has
to be a built from scratch approach. So it is
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going to take some time. No matter who it is
that you hire, it's going to take some time. The
question now becomes, do the people that get hired have
the amount of time to be a will to truly
put together an infrastructure and a foundation where you can
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have a chance to be successful in one of the
tougher conferences to be you know, divisions to be successful in.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
So I mean, who knows. Maybe what is.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Happening in the background right now is doing something.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, people coming and going lead left.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Now Now that it's not considered to be any type
of events going on, whether it be the builders little
meeting they had yesterday structure yeah, or the you know
be the college football playoff, you know, media stuff set up,
they seem to be looking at it as though it's
their space again. And so the fact that we're not
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under the protective cover of everything that's going on with
these events, they're basically walking by looking at us like, yeah,
you got two days, but you don't get today.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, I'm guessing based on the setup, in the fact
there's no table and we had to move furniture put Yeah,
in fact that they weren't us this.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
This furniture is definitely made for you not to be
able to just walk off with it, you know what
I mean. And Lee's back is somewhere, you know, spread
out on the floor because of how heavy these pieces
of furniture.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Are you sure we were supposed to be here today?
It doesn't seem like we were supposed.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
To be here.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
Well, that's why I called Lee this mornings Like I
thought we were going to do it from and which
would have been uncomfortable, by the way, but I thought
we were going to do it.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
From a room. That was kind of what they told
me to figure figure it out on today.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So I made sure that the wires were affected.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Oh yeah, figure it out today. So that's what we got.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I got a lot of mixed messages.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Then My understanding was we were going to be set
up there, because I almost didn't fly out last night
just because I wanted.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
To be with you guys after it, and I felt bad.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
I was so glad you weren't going to be here.
I was I was. I thought you were going to
be off the show. I was like, he's off, no.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Stop, no offense.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I'm not like you. I'm not gonna go ahead rub
in your face. I was a hard fought game. I
had a lot of respect for Penn State.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Would rubbing it.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Exactly like all of it.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And I'll say that Penn State fans, most of you
were respectful, most of you and the other year of
you just little bitches.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
So what.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Happened, No, just some kids like talking trash.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I'm like, first, off, bro, we whooped y'all's ass the
one time I played. Second y'all just got beat again.
So go home to Sad Valley, go cry about it.
All right, We'll see you all next year, all right,
bar that's the Jazz fans to.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
The victors, go to spoils. I mean, what am I
supposed to say? I mean, when we have represented ourselves,
you know what I mean? Like we didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But I was, like I said, about eighty percent of
the Penn State fans were cool and they're respectful, and
I think there was like a shared appreciation for the game.
You know what I'm saying, Like what everyone's saw. And
then there's a couple of drunken ones that were just
really upset about the result, like I had anything to
do with it, like not this time, Palt trust me,
I wish, I wish. And also on that note, you
(15:21):
know it's gonna fly under the radar.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
What about Steve Angeli who just goes in on the spot,
bing bing bing bing right before half for like a
backup that was.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
It did go under. He was doing better than than
the starter then than Riley.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Well he's a better passer, Like, let's just be real, Briley,
he was runner, but Angelic could sling it. But what
happened in the end a half they get a field
goal difference in the game's three points like that, that drive.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Will not be talked about enough.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
But as a quarterback, a guy who started, the guy's
backed up, that's flipping hard.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Man, bro And that's why I say earlier, put the
foot on the neck and stomp them out. That was
the stomp out moment, Like when they knocked him out
of the game and the lineman went down, I was like, yeah,
they're wearing down, We're wearing Notre dame. Now exactly what
I said was going to happen is happening. They're starting
(16:17):
to drop. We didn't got to the quarterback. We'd have
made him feel that pain. They had to pull him out.
I was like, here it is right here. We're gonna
bust this thing wide open. And we allowed a young
boy to come in. And you're right, it wasn't. It
wasn't really focused in on and talked about at least
we haven't highlighted it until just now. But he came
in and I thought he did an exceptional job.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I thought he was doing better than the starter. I
really did.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I think he distributes the ball well, he's accurate, he
does all those things. I mean, if nothing else, Like
you know, you've got another guy, you know, behind Ryer
that's like ready to step in and step up like
that was you know last year he did it in
the in the bowl game. You know, you look at
what he's able to do, you know, in spot work
this year. Credit to him, man. Like people are going
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to talk about the Jeremiah Love run, which was absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
The effort to get in the end zone in the fourth.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Quarter of that score, we're half a leg Oh my goodness, man,
but that drive like not enough people are going to
talk about the fact that like that ended up weighing
in a big way, a huge way.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
At the end of the game, it mattered in a
big way.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, that came out and then tied it the start
the second half, and it was a whole new ball game.
That man, that second half was wild.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I did.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I thought the same thing. I thought Penn State was
going to start walking away with it in the first half,
just the way they were controlling it. We did see
you met, Brady.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
You mentioned the.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Penn State fans. We did see the Penn State fans
entering the hotel after the game was over, and they
were not not pleased. Very sad, respectful, but very sad.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I will say this, if there's one thing that I
would be critical to James Franklin about is why the
hell did you have two guys back instead of trying
to an all out rush versus noted him with that
final field goal.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Like, what's the point I got to hear an.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Explanation for that, because I'm not saying they got close
to blocking it, but you're not stressing the fueld goal protection.
If you don't put eleven bodies up, A lot of scrimmage.
I did not know what that was going on.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, it's unfortunate, but you know what great game, fun
game and stories and memories.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
For a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Do you guys know how happy Jonas is going to
be come January twenty second when he doesn't have to
talk about college football anymore?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I'm just saying you could tell not a not a
college guy? Is that Ferret Var?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Did you see him last night?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Var?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
No? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I mean that's because him and had the little credentials.
They're just walking around.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Did he see hims?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean I make the face to look at you, like,
did we see Lvar?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It's my right, No, like the first time they have
these red credentials, which I don't know how the hell
you guys got down to field level like that.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Those credentials shouldn't have allowed you down there.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Credential because I'm here. Yeah, they just see my swag
and they like, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That Lee was supposed to guys credentialed.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I guess I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I called Lee multiple times and I specifically told him
I go Lee, I have a separate credential for the media, correct,
the one that is what I need for you. I said,
I've got a separate one through the Orange Bowl, which
I already got, which had nothing to do with what
you submitted.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
For right, you did, but you kept on asking me
for the one that I have and I was like, okay,
I got you.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But you get called.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
I told you if you had answered my call, I said,
I got it ready for you from from Mike and Carroll.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
They have it ready for you. If you just go
to the office, they have it for you.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Lee, I wasn't staying at the media hotel. How the
hell was gonna go to the office.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It wasn't at the media hotels.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
They said, it's going to be at the stadium, at
the Media Center. That's where we printed out at what Hey, man,
I don't run the office. But you asked after the deadline,
and I said, okay, let me call my people, and
I did.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And that's not true. I didn't ask after the deadline.
I asked close to the deadline.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
There may have.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Been there may have been some slow reaction time on
your part.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Lee.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Okay, Lee?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Hold on, Lee, what was the deadline for the media creduals?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Because I asked you Monday last week.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You called on Friday.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Or Friday and asked for it, and you said Monday
was like Wednesday or no, And you said it was
like Monday this.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Week, Monday last week?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
No, yeah, Monday this week correct.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, And and you said they have not gotten back
to me. I was like, can you keep getting back
to be like yeah, buddy, hey man.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You asked, you asked for it, and I did it.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
You didn't need it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I know you didn't need it, So why didn't Why.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Didn't you just give him the credential?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Why did they didn't?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
They didn't have it because it was past the deadline,
but they said, if you just go to the office,
you will have it for you there.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Which office we went to?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
The We didn't need to go.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
To the office, because Brady was because you're already in
the we picked we picked ours up from the hotel
because we got it before the deadline.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Which Lee made sure that he put in.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, but you.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Were you and Lee.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Here's what I understand, Le is, why is your default
not always trying to get credentials for everyone?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Because Jonas is what's important to Lee.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
I'm pulled on Brady, why do you like, why do
you act like it's it's breaking news to you. You've
been around this show way longer than I had.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I picked this up way way before.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Now, like, are like, do you really not like this
is This is a different scenario though, than what you're
talking about.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I'm not gonna argue.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
My My priority is always sideline reporter. So I get
the sideline reporters credentialed, I get them good to go,
and then at the last second, because this is our game, this.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Is the truth, A sideline report, literally the lap tell
the truth.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Your top priority at every turn and at every situation
is to make sure Jonas is okay.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Right, No, it's just where the bar's at. That's my priority.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
That's your payoff, he supports.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
All I'm asking is, from now on with here four
of us, just ask for a credential for each one
of us.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Understood.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Why why would why would you always do that?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Super?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It's always better of more than less.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Like right now, you don't have as many clothes as
you should have, so you probably stink, which is why
you're carrying around a stick of deodorant.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I'm sorry, do you not have a stick of deodorant?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I don't carry what a round with me because I've
been wearing the same clothes for three days because my
cut all my tops in the crop tops, my old spice.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
What do you want me to put there? A bag
of chips? Can use what I have?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You needed anything? The door's not locked.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
The door is locked.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You can't you mean you can't open it from the outside.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Musshair Radios, bad news beer.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Oh man, Well listen. Uh, we at least got into
the game.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
So there's that.
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on FSR. SO, I thought Carson Beck was yeah, he
was entering the draft, and now he's not. So now
(26:02):
he's entering the portal. I saw Miami was one of
the teams that was favored to land him. So what happened?
Did he just get bad, like a bad evaluation draft
wise and was like, I'll just take my chances elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Here's what it comes down to. This is starting to
become a financial decision.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So a lot of these players will get a draft
grade and then they'll associate you know, a second third,
whatever you know, round pick with however much money they're
gonna make, and they'll say, can I make more if
I stay in college? And that's the reality of where
the game's at right now. So in Carson Beck's case,
he'll immediately be the top transfer quarterback in the portal
(26:45):
in my opinion, and he'll he's gonna get a lot
of money, a big offer, whether it's from Miami, who
spent a lot on camboard last year, or any other
program that.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Feels like they need a quarterback now. I think the
hard thing is he's coming off of surgery.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Which may have been another reason why maybe he decided
to come back, or didn't have a fair evaluation because
there's NFL teams or some people that are concerned about
what that may look like.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
He did not have a great year.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It was a step back from I think how he
finished the prior season where he played really well second
half the year, So all those things amounted to him saying,
you know why am I put my name in the portal?
It feels a little bit odd that you'd want to
leave Georgia. I mean, I look at Carson Beck and
Gunner stocked in and even though Gunner is a younger player,
(27:36):
I just I thought the team had a much better
chance if Carson Beck was their starting quarterback, then Gunner stocked.
I mean, I remember this Georgia team dropped forty balls
this year, forty balls the most in college football. That
ain't on Carson Beck. So you know, I'm not sure
why he wants to enter into the portal and leave Georgia.
(27:58):
It was a falling out the offense.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Whatever the.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's hard to you know, figure that out, or he
hasn't at least mentioned it. So we'll see what happens.
But he will be the top quarterback of the transfer.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Portal, and so we're I think I heard yours might
hit the portal as well.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Right, is that? Have you guys heard that? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But he also, I mean put it this way, if
yours beets O House stay tonight, if yours goes on
to win a national championship, I'd have a hard sid
thing he's not going to go bro right.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
I think what you said kind of resonates. It's I
think it comes down to what your draft grade is
and what that looks like. And I heard and upwards,
I heard the figure ten million come out for a year.
I heard ten million. I don't know how accurate. That
(28:55):
is ten million to come back and eder ten million Jesus,
that's what I heard and and not listen. I don't
want to be like irresponsible and like falsely put something
out there, but I will say I feel very confident
and strong about where I heard that from. So and
(29:18):
think about it. What's your door? What did Shador make
this year? Q?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
What seven? Something like that?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
You can made that much?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
What was what? What what's been reported?
Speaker 7 (29:29):
I think I think it was something like him and
who's the other guy that there's another kid that Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Actual number disclosed publicly no, or it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And there's not an actual figure. It's all estimates.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I mean cam Ward made over two which is which
was the most of any of the transfer quarterbacks as
far as mat money goes, you know, I have no
idea what like sugar or made maybe in anil earnings,
but because some of that, if he's doing it with
like other partnerships and all that, it's different. I'm not
I'm saying like if Carson Beck's getting whatever money's getting,
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that's from a.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Four point seven. Four point seven is what the four
point eight is what they were reporting estimating whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
But again like that's from like the sponsorships, the commercials,
all that. What I'm saying is if Carson Beck's going somewhere,
Quinn yours.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Is going somewhere, somebody's paying him from.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah someone, someone's bringing the money. I saw like Camward.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah yeah, So cam Warden got paid I think over
two from Miami last year to go there from their
collective and like for the most for most of the
young men that transferred that were quarterbacks, they were getting
over a million.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
That number. Now to Lawar's point, that number is going
to go up, but ten million. I can't see that because.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Cam Ward was the one player I looked at last
year and go, yeah, you could spend the name your price,
because that young man's going to elevate everyone around him,
Like he's that talented of a player. And you saw
what he did with Miami, who really didn't have much
of a football team besides cam Ward with the exception
of a few players. You know, there's no one like
that really in this year's portal, at least not right now.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
And we'll see all the games finished.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Hearn very Beck was being talked about very highly as always.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah, he's a.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
First round talent, like he just didn't put the tape
out this year. That's why he's coming back. But to
your point, he's the best. But like again, I just
I mean Camwoard's tape from Washington State the year prime
before I went to Miami was phenomenal. Beck's tape is
not that, and he's come out of surgery. Like, if
you're a team, think about this, folks. There's a lot
of I should say, there's a lack of formality to
(31:33):
a lot of these nil signings. So in the NFL,
if you go for like a visit with the team
as a free agent, you get a passive physical, so
they're gonna check you out. Their doctor's gonna check you out,
they'll do imaging and all this stuff. They may work
you out, they may just visit with you. It just depends.
But either way they want to take a look under
the hood. That doesn't happen in college football. They signed
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these guys up for deals half the time before they
even get the campus. And so you're looking at it
going wait a second, like the guy has to get
a follow up surgery or he asked you something cleaned up,
because the doctor's ever had a chance to look at
him so the whole process is jacked up in that
and that part, in my opinion, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
God, you go you get sure, you don't have any
eligibility left. You can go back and make a couple
of million right now, just all the just like, how
many LeVar how much money would you have do you
think you could have gotten?
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I mean, you guys are walking around that stadium, like
you saw how many eleven jerseys eleven like things that
are out there. I mean, and and here's what's funny.
I'll tell you this. It was way worse when I
was there. Every other person had elevens on when I
was in school. So I don't know, I don't know
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how much I would have made. I don't I don't
know what. You know, how that would all played out
because it was a different time. So even if you
were allowed to get paid, you know, I just think
that it was a different time in terms of how
maybe companies and corporations would have approached deals with with
athletes in college. They probably wouldn't even known how to
(33:13):
really do it, how to really leverage it. But I
will say this, it would have been interesting. I think
nil and our age like you're saying get paid. But
I think it would have I think it would have
destroyed college football because most of the coaches would not
have been able to survive that era in time.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
From that era, the things that.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Were handled the way that they were handled by old
school coaches, I just don't.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Think that they would have been able to hard ass approach.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
I I just don't think that these coaches could coach
in today's And that's another thing to give you know,
Freeman credit for, you know, and even coach Franklin credit for,
and even Day credit for and Sarkesian, you know, with
with these top four teams, is being able to keep
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keep teams and keep guys pushing forward and staying motivated
even in a day and age where you know, athletes
want to get an i L. Money and you see
somebody else on your team that's getting, you know, getting paid,
You're looking at him like, well, I'm just as good
as he is, or I should be talked about as
(34:30):
being just as good as he is. So you got
to manage a lot more elements, you know that that
that come down the line. You have to be more
aware and more open to how you communicate with these
athletes and their parents. Oh, and by the way, and
their agents. I mean I've heard I've heard instances where
(34:51):
the agent called the a d or the coach and said, listen,
you know we don't get get a deal, you know,
get a deal done, We're going to sit him out
like he's not going to play this week. Yeah, you
know that's happening now. And these these coaches have to
be able to manage that.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And just I want to go back LeVar to your
time with Joe Paul because I was told this by
a Penn Stater like when just so people understand like
how they how he viewed for example, like old school coaches,
how he viewed professional football.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Like I was.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Told that if a team wanted to come in and
work a player out on campus, couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Didn't believe in that, No, no, think about that.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Like this is an NFL team comes in and says,
I want to work out LeVar Arrington and Joe Batarna.
The head coach is like, no, that's I don't believe
in that, Like like these these young men.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Need to go onto the workforce, get.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
A real job and go on, Like I just I
hear that and go, yeah, that guy like Joe Batarna
would have had a really hard time with Nil. If
he's not even helping player work out for an NFL
team to get drafted, that's bizarre.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I mean, I just you also don't think he could
have Like him and some of those other coaches, everybody
would have left like like an adaptor died.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
They can't, you can't.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
The adaptation I believe would have been way too great
because this stems far beyond just like okay, like if
you if you're looking at it from the standpoint of
how do you discipline guys, and if you're a true disciplinarian,
like old school style disciplinarian, how do you really adjust
(36:39):
that and how do you really adapt that?
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Where they're sitting.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
There and they're saying to you, yeah, I don't think
I'm a practice today. I just ain't feeling up to it.
I'm not feeling up for it, Like, yeah, you're going
to practice. You know what Joe used to Joe used
to One of Joe's things was he'd be like, I'm
gonna send you on a bustown a brush.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
You I want to send you back.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
You know how quick dudes would be like kiss my ass.
And that's Joe like you're talking about Joe.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Kiss my ass? Like, get out of here.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Send it back on the bus.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Yeah, I got a card Joe, A nice one too.
You ain't got to send me nowhere. I'm hitting the portal,
you know what I mean. Dudes was stressed out that
wanted to transfer and couldn't transfer because they were too
afraid to go get the blessing to go, get Joe
to sign off on them leaving.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I need to go. What's keeping your hair? I don't
want to go talk to Joe.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
That'd be a different I don't know how that would
have went down, and I'd be like, you know people,
you know, Homo sapiens and dinosaurs existing together just wouldn't work.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
That would not work out.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
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this around, potentially this was going to happen. It is
now official. The wild card game between the Vikings and
the Rams has been moved to Arizona out of the
interest of public safety. Based on the wildfires in southern California.
That game has now been moved so much for the
home field advantage for the Rams, and now this game
(39:40):
goes to the desert. The line going into this game
before the move was at one and a half and
now it is the Vikings minus two and a half.
So there has been a little bit of a difference.
And you know, I guess a different number thrown out
there based on this game getting moved, But you know,
it seemed like it made sense. It seemed like we
were heading in this direction. And if you're a Vikings
(40:02):
fan or you're the Vikings, you probably feel better about
this one than having to go to La to have
to deal with whatever, you know, road environment you were
going to get it so.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Far there were they gonna get a road environment or
was it gonna be more like a home game for Minnesota?
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
I mean, look, you know that that fan base travels well,
and you know Rams.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Fan Minnesota finished with a better overall record. Right, Yeah,
some would say you could do like a reseed there,
I mean, you know, totally like it actually maybe should
be in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Like would you be opposed to if the NFL said
if moving forward. If the four seed, meaning the division
winner in each conference, has a worse record than the
five seed, the five seed gets the home game. Like
I would be totally okay with that, but apparently they
don't want to do that because the owners want to
put a premium on winning your division. It's fine, make
(40:51):
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
But well, again and again, and I get it because
I think in some ways what bothers me about it is,
you know, winning overall doesn't matter quite as much, right,
it's winning your division first.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
May that means more?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
And again we've talked about this, like you've seen teams
with losing records get to host a home playoff game
just because they won the division.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
So again, these are conversations I think more for the
off season.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
But it is interesting that that's the case.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah, they want that playoff revenue. You know, you're hosting
a playoff game, you want that revenue. And those twenty
eight dollars beers that people are walking around the venue
with
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So Brady, have got a quick lead to lap update.
Lee What did you use to hold that door open
a stick of de oder?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
What door do you need to hold the hold open?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So the hotel, he went outside to make it call
and he goes outside, My old spice, it's the it's
the door by the pool. So he took a stick
of the odor.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
He's got door opens.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
The fact that Lee has deodorant is another thing that
is a win.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So that is a win, my old quick.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Lee, who are you calling?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
I'm calling the studio.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
What were you calling about?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
You know, work stuff, behind the scenes things.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Lee, Why can't you just say what the hell you
were calling about?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
We were calling about a read that we were doing
during the during the break.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Okay, by the way, Lee, you got butchered last Yeah, fine,
right now, But.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
He looked like he was in outer space.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Who were you?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Like, h, how many? Because you're doing G and t's right, yeah,
yeah a few of those.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Look you could tell about the way he's responding that
he's still like banged up a.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Little talking about him totally fun, no way, no way.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
The same thing too that you were the day before.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Well, like we have talked about, I only have a
few things to work with, right, Yeah, if you don't
remember Edwards your hands went.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Through his.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Care. He's definitely worn his outfit at least every single
time I've seen him now because now that now that
job mentioned it, like he's worn this same outfit.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But I did, I did just yeah, I did just
throw this on.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Ve bed.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I asked you in the in the elevator, by the way,
because as I f forget where we're going, maybe we're
going to get water or coffee or something yesterday.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Like it's on the elevator.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He goes, Yeah, the hotels charged me twice, double charge me.
I've really got to talk to him about that. And
I was like, oh, yeah, man, it's me. Case's put
in a credit card or something. You go, yeah, man,
but I need the money. I'm out of money right now,
which they keep charging you.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It probably back to your fantasy league. Yeah people, yeah it.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
No, they're they're fine. What do you mean they're fine?
That's their money, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It is their money. Yeah, they'll get their money.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 8 (03:51):
I mean, so basically, all of a sudden, this hotel
has now somehow responsible for your fantasy leagues out because
you didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Pay them and you spent the money.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Yeah, we'll blame blame the hotel.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You spent the money, yeah, because the hotel double charged me.
The account Lee Fantasy.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Has nothing to do with the cash you got earlier
for your fantasy league that you spent like weeks ago.
Speaker 9 (04:24):
What did you what did you spend it on? Bombay? Hendricks?
What did you Hendricks? I don't like Bombay? Oh god,
well he's on that.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Actually actually not a big fan of Hendricks either. But
but but it beats water.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
Well I'm all out of water, so Hendricks it is.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh lord, all right, Well listen. It took a little while,
but uh, you know, one NFL team has decided to
make the move. Tom Telasco, the general manager of the
Raiders no more, two days after they fired Antonio Piercer
head coach. Tom Telesco is gone one year after he
was originally hired. So, I mean, I guess they cleaned
(05:11):
house completely. We were talking about just sort of the
Teeter Totter of you keep your GM, but you fire
your coach or vice versa. They did it in Tennessee,
They've done it in other places. I mean, at least
the Raiders are clearing house. I'm just trying to figure
out what changed in two days.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
I don't think anything changed in two days. I think
there's a plan that's being executed. And as much as
I would say, I do not like the fact that
they got rid of Antonio Pierce under the circumstances that
they did. If you bring in a new ownership person,
you have a group come in. Tom Brady is a
(05:47):
part of that. It's been discussed that he's going to
be a part of helping revamp and rebuild what's going
on with the Raiders. So if you're choosing to go
in a different direction, but you only fired the head
coach after the head coach did not have a roster
that should have been able to win, I don't like
(06:08):
the way that felt. I don't like the way it sounded.
But then you execute further a decision that makes you
feel as though they're setting the stage for what should
take place if you're going to try to build what
you're going to build and being a winner. And we
talked about this on the show yesterday, which is a
relationship that's strong between the GM and the coach, and
(06:32):
that seems as though that would be the most feasible
understanding an idea of what this decision represents.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
This decision represents.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
To me, you're clearing it all out, You've leveled it,
and now you're going to truly build whatever it is
that you're going to build in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I'm with you on that. I think my question is
more of like the timing. You know, why did it
take them what two days after? Yeah, I mean I
wonder if they had spoken to some potential candidates or
had just gotten win that. I mean, look, man, I'd
love to interview there, but I'm not gonna even entertain
that if Tom Tellusko's there.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And maybe that's because they got someone else in mind.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Maybe it's because they feel like Telesco ultimately would be
a part of the hiring process, so they'd feel like
they would be underneath Tom Telluska. I mean, these are
always power struggles at this time of the year and
how they go about hiring who first. So I do wonder,
with the timing of it being so odd, why won't
(07:35):
you just clean house with everyone?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I mean, who knows? You know, I mean, I know
Belichick is saying that, you know, he wants to stay
in North Carolina, and there's reports that you know, he's
got no interest in leaving, but you know, it does
open the door for Belichick to be able to bring
whoever he wants in. You know, Tom Brady has spoken
to him, so you know, maybe maybe that gets done.
Maybe Belichick to the Raiders becomes more of a possibility
(08:01):
if Tom felasco goes out along with Antonio Peers.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
You know, I don't really know the reasoning behind the
staggered you know, decision making. I'm with you there, Q
on why why not just you know, clean sweep it,
just say everybody's gone. But there's, you know, for me,
the idea of it of maybe there's something legally speaking
that you know, don't I don't know if there's some
(08:28):
type of backstory. I just know there's some reason why
they did it the way that they did it. And again,
I think that the conversation points were very valid in
terms of what we were discussing about these first year
head coaches and how I mean, you got to be
honest and in some of these cases they were let
(08:52):
down by the lack of personnel that was on their teams.
And so how do you hold a coach unless you
are using that coach as a placeholder. How do you
hold a coach accountable for the lack of success when
the GM did not team up with him and provide
(09:14):
him with the type of players that would lend to
them having a competitive season. So I almost felt as though,
if that's the direction you're going in getting rid of
a new coach after one season with the circumstances they
were facing, then it makes sense to have to get
(09:35):
rid of the decision maker at the GM position. And
so some of these guys aren't as bulletproof as they
thought they were.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I mean, shouldn't they have at least gotten another year?
Both of them? To LESCo just got there. It's like
a one and done GM. I don't know, man, just
everything feels like it's quick unless they've got a better
plan in place. I don't know that I agree with
the move you just to turn and burn him after
a year, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I mean, it made more sense for Pierce to stay
than Telesco for based on this past year. I mean,
what did you give Antonio Pierce to work with? Like,
ultimately he's not the one that's responsible for their roster,
the roster construction, that's Telesco, And you dropped the ball
to start the season. But the way you went about
(10:24):
the quarterback position, I just keep going back to that,
and you got fooled in the draft.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You didn't find anything, and the veteran market free agencies
there you are, like, this is where you found yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I just I look at that and go, that was
Telesco's fumble and he knows that division well, he was
with the Charges forever. I sit there just looking and go,
how does that happen? I'm surprised that Tellesco wasn't let
go first. And then they consumplated more with Thantonio Pierce
in some of the fight that team showed.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
How good of a job is the Raiders job? Like,
I know the market in the vibe and everyone feels good,
But I just wonder if a deterrent is, dude, you
have no solution at quarterback and you're in that division, Like,
what's like, how do you win there in the next
decade if you don't have a quarterback? And I just
I wonder like where, like how appealing is that job
(11:21):
in comparison to other places around the league.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Depends on the infrastructure. Yeah, well yeah, that's funny. I mean,
it does depend on if you like the game. I
think it's infrastructural things that need to take place with
with the Las Vegas Raiders. I think that it has
to be a built from scratch approach. So it is
(11:44):
going to take some time. No matter who it is
that you hire, it's going to take some time. The
question now becomes, do the people that get hired have
the amount of time to be a will to truly
put together an infrastructure and a foundation where you can
(12:05):
have a chance to be successful in one of the
tougher conferences to be you know, divisions to be successful in.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
So I mean, who knows. Maybe what is.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Happening in the background right now is doing something.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, people coming and going lead left.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Now Now that it's not considered to be any type
of events going on, whether it be the builders little
meeting they had yesterday structure yeah, or the you know
be the college football playoff, you know, media stuff set up,
they seem to be looking at it as though it's
their space again. And so the fact that we're not
(12:46):
under the protective cover of everything that's going on with
these events, they're basically walking by looking at us like, yeah,
you got two days, but you don't get today.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, I'm guessing based on the setup, in the fact
there's no table and we had to move furniture put Yeah,
in fact that they weren't us this.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
This furniture is definitely made for you not to be
able to just walk off with it, you know what
I mean. And Lee's back is somewhere, you know, spread
out on the floor because of how heavy these pieces
of furniture.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Are you sure we were supposed to be here today?
It doesn't seem like we were supposed.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
To be here.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
Well, that's why I called Lee this mornings Like I
thought we were going to do it from and which
would have been uncomfortable, by the way, but I thought
we were going to do it.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
From a room. That was kind of what they told
me to figure figure it out on today.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So I made sure that the wires were affected.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Oh yeah, figure it out today. So that's what we got.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I got a lot of mixed messages.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Then My understanding was we were going to be set
up there, because I almost didn't fly out last night
just because I wanted.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
To be with you guys after it, and I felt bad.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
I was so glad you weren't going to be here.
I was I was. I thought you were going to
be off the show. I was like, he's off, no.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Stop, no offense.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I'm not like you. I'm not gonna go ahead rub
in your face. I was a hard fought game. I
had a lot of respect for Penn State.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Would rubbing it.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Exactly like all of it.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And I'll say that Penn State fans, most of you
were respectful, most of you and the other year of
you just little bitches.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
So what.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Happened, No, just some kids like talking trash.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I'm like, first, off, bro, we whooped y'all's ass the
one time I played. Second y'all just got beat again.
So go home to Sad Valley, go cry about it.
All right, We'll see you all next year, all right,
bar that's the Jazz fans to.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
The victors, go to spoils. I mean, what am I
supposed to say? I mean, when we have represented ourselves,
you know what I mean? Like we didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But I was, like I said, about eighty percent of
the Penn State fans were cool and they're respectful, and
I think there was like a shared appreciation for the game.
You know what I'm saying, Like what everyone's saw. And
then there's a couple of drunken ones that were just
really upset about the result, like I had anything to
do with it, like not this time, Palt trust me,
I wish, I wish. And also on that note, you
(15:21):
know it's gonna fly under the radar.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
What about Steve Angeli who just goes in on the spot,
bing bing bing bing right before half for like a
backup that was.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
It did go under. He was doing better than than
the starter then than Riley.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Well he's a better passer, Like, let's just be real, Briley,
he was runner, but Angelic could sling it. But what
happened in the end a half they get a field
goal difference in the game's three points like that, that drive.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Will not be talked about enough.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
But as a quarterback, a guy who started, the guy's
backed up, that's flipping hard.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Man, bro And that's why I say earlier, put the
foot on the neck and stomp them out. That was
the stomp out moment, Like when they knocked him out
of the game and the lineman went down, I was like, yeah,
they're wearing down, We're wearing Notre dame. Now exactly what
I said was going to happen is happening. They're starting
(16:17):
to drop. We didn't got to the quarterback. We'd have
made him feel that pain. They had to pull him out.
I was like, here it is right here. We're gonna
bust this thing wide open. And we allowed a young
boy to come in. And you're right, it wasn't. It
wasn't really focused in on and talked about at least
we haven't highlighted it until just now. But he came
in and I thought he did an exceptional job.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I thought he was doing better than the starter. I
really did.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I think he distributes the ball well, he's accurate, he
does all those things. I mean, if nothing else, Like
you know, you've got another guy, you know, behind Ryer
that's like ready to step in and step up like
that was you know last year he did it in
the in the bowl game. You know, you look at
what he's able to do, you know, in spot work
this year. Credit to him, man. Like people are going
(17:07):
to talk about the Jeremiah Love run, which was absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
The effort to get in the end zone in the fourth.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Quarter of that score, we're half a leg Oh my goodness, man,
but that drive like not enough people are going to
talk about the fact that like that ended up weighing
in a big way, a huge way.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
At the end of the game, it mattered in a
big way.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, that came out and then tied it the start
the second half, and it was a whole new ball game.
That man, that second half was wild.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I did.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I thought the same thing. I thought Penn State was
going to start walking away with it in the first half,
just the way they were controlling it. We did see
you met, Brady.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
You mentioned the.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Penn State fans. We did see the Penn State fans
entering the hotel after the game was over, and they
were not not pleased. Very sad, respectful, but very sad.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I will say this, if there's one thing that I
would be critical to James Franklin about is why the
hell did you have two guys back instead of trying
to an all out rush versus noted him with that
final field goal.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Like, what's the point I got to hear an.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Explanation for that, because I'm not saying they got close
to blocking it, but you're not stressing the fueld goal protection.
If you don't put eleven bodies up, A lot of scrimmage.
I did not know what that was going on.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, it's unfortunate, but you know what great game, fun
game and stories and memories.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
For a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Do you guys know how happy Jonas is going to
be come January twenty second when he doesn't have to
talk about college football anymore?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I'm just saying you could tell not a not a
college guy? Is that Ferret Var?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Did you see him last night?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Var?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
No? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I mean that's because him and had the little credentials.
They're just walking around.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Did he see hims?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean I make the face to look at you, like,
did we see Lvar?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It's my right, No, like the first time they have
these red credentials, which I don't know how the hell
you guys got down to field level like that.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Those credentials shouldn't have allowed you down there.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Credential because I'm here. Yeah, they just see my swag
and they like, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That Lee was supposed to guys credentialed.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I guess I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I called Lee multiple times and I specifically told him
I go Lee, I have a separate credential for the media, correct,
the one that is what I need for you. I said,
I've got a separate one through the Orange Bowl, which
I already got, which had nothing to do with what
you submitted.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
For right, you did, but you kept on asking me
for the one that I have and I was like, okay,
I got you.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But you get called.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
I told you if you had answered my call, I said,
I got it ready for you from from Mike and Carroll.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
They have it ready for you. If you just go
to the office, they have it for you.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Lee, I wasn't staying at the media hotel. How the
hell was gonna go to the office.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It wasn't at the media hotels.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
They said, it's going to be at the stadium, at
the Media Center. That's where we printed out at what Hey, man,
I don't run the office. But you asked after the deadline,
and I said, okay, let me call my people, and
I did.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And that's not true. I didn't ask after the deadline.
I asked close to the deadline.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
There may have.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Been there may have been some slow reaction time on
your part.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Lee.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Okay, Lee?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Hold on, Lee, what was the deadline for the media creduals?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Because I asked you Monday last week.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You called on Friday.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Or Friday and asked for it, and you said Monday
was like Wednesday or no, And you said it was
like Monday this.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Week, Monday last week?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
No, yeah, Monday this week correct.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, And and you said they have not gotten back
to me. I was like, can you keep getting back
to be like yeah, buddy, hey man.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You asked, you asked for it, and I did it.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
You didn't need it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I know you didn't need it, So why didn't Why.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Didn't you just give him the credential?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Why did they didn't?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
They didn't have it because it was past the deadline,
but they said, if you just go to the office,
you will have it for you there.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Which office we went to?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
The We didn't need to go.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
To the office, because Brady was because you're already in
the we picked we picked ours up from the hotel
because we got it before the deadline.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Which Lee made sure that he put in.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, but you.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Were you and Lee.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Here's what I understand, Le is, why is your default
not always trying to get credentials for everyone?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Because Jonas is what's important to Lee.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
I'm pulled on Brady, why do you like, why do
you act like it's it's breaking news to you. You've
been around this show way longer than I had.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I picked this up way way before.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Now, like, are like, do you really not like this
is This is a different scenario though, than what you're
talking about.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I'm not gonna argue.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
My My priority is always sideline reporter. So I get
the sideline reporters credentialed, I get them good to go,
and then at the last second, because this is our game, this.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Is the truth, A sideline report, literally the lap tell
the truth.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Your top priority at every turn and at every situation
is to make sure Jonas is okay.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Right, No, it's just where the bar's at. That's my priority.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
That's your payoff, he supports.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
All I'm asking is, from now on with here four
of us, just ask for a credential for each one
of us.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Understood.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Why why would why would you always do that?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Super?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It's always better of more than less.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Like right now, you don't have as many clothes as
you should have, so you probably stink, which is why
you're carrying around a stick of deodorant.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I'm sorry, do you not have a stick of deodorant?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I don't carry what a round with me because I've
been wearing the same clothes for three days because my
cut all my tops in the crop tops, my old spice.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
What do you want me to put there? A bag
of chips? Can use what I have?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You needed anything? The door's not locked.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
The door is locked.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You can't you mean you can't open it from the outside.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Musshair Radios, bad news beer.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Oh man, Well listen. Uh, we at least got into
the game.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
So there's that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
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We'll get into the details on that for you here
on FSR. SO, I thought Carson Beck was yeah, he
was entering the draft, and now he's not. So now
(26:02):
he's entering the portal. I saw Miami was one of
the teams that was favored to land him. So what happened?
Did he just get bad, like a bad evaluation draft
wise and was like, I'll just take my chances elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Here's what it comes down to. This is starting to
become a financial decision.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So a lot of these players will get a draft
grade and then they'll associate you know, a second third,
whatever you know, round pick with however much money they're
gonna make, and they'll say, can I make more if
I stay in college? And that's the reality of where
the game's at right now. So in Carson Beck's case,
he'll immediately be the top transfer quarterback in the portal
(26:45):
in my opinion, and he'll he's gonna get a lot
of money, a big offer, whether it's from Miami, who
spent a lot on camboard last year, or any other
program that.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Feels like they need a quarterback now. I think the
hard thing is he's coming off of surgery.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Which may have been another reason why maybe he decided
to come back, or didn't have a fair evaluation because
there's NFL teams or some people that are concerned about
what that may look like.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
He did not have a great year.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It was a step back from I think how he
finished the prior season where he played really well second
half the year, So all those things amounted to him saying,
you know why am I put my name in the portal?
It feels a little bit odd that you'd want to
leave Georgia. I mean, I look at Carson Beck and
Gunner stocked in and even though Gunner is a younger player,
(27:36):
I just I thought the team had a much better
chance if Carson Beck was their starting quarterback, then Gunner stocked.
I mean, I remember this Georgia team dropped forty balls
this year, forty balls the most in college football. That
ain't on Carson Beck. So you know, I'm not sure
why he wants to enter into the portal and leave Georgia.
(27:58):
It was a falling out the offense.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Whatever the.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's hard to you know, figure that out, or he
hasn't at least mentioned it. So we'll see what happens.
But he will be the top quarterback of the transfer.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Portal, and so we're I think I heard yours might
hit the portal as well.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Right, is that? Have you guys heard that? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But he also, I mean put it this way, if
yours beets O House stay tonight, if yours goes on
to win a national championship, I'd have a hard sid
thing he's not going to go bro right.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
I think what you said kind of resonates. It's I
think it comes down to what your draft grade is
and what that looks like. And I heard and upwards,
I heard the figure ten million come out for a year.
I heard ten million. I don't know how accurate. That
(28:55):
is ten million to come back and eder ten million Jesus,
that's what I heard and and not listen. I don't
want to be like irresponsible and like falsely put something
out there, but I will say I feel very confident
and strong about where I heard that from. So and
(29:18):
think about it. What's your door? What did Shador make
this year? Q?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
What seven? Something like that?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
You can made that much?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
What was what? What what's been reported?
Speaker 7 (29:29):
I think I think it was something like him and
who's the other guy that there's another kid that Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Actual number disclosed publicly no, or it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And there's not an actual figure. It's all estimates.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I mean cam Ward made over two which is which
was the most of any of the transfer quarterbacks as
far as mat money goes, you know, I have no
idea what like sugar or made maybe in anil earnings,
but because some of that, if he's doing it with
like other partnerships and all that, it's different. I'm not
I'm saying like if Carson Beck's getting whatever money's getting,
(30:00):
that's from a.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Four point seven. Four point seven is what the four
point eight is what they were reporting estimating whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
But again like that's from like the sponsorships, the commercials,
all that. What I'm saying is if Carson Beck's going somewhere,
Quinn yours.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Is going somewhere, somebody's paying him from.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah someone, someone's bringing the money. I saw like Camward.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah yeah, So cam Warden got paid I think over
two from Miami last year to go there from their
collective and like for the most for most of the
young men that transferred that were quarterbacks, they were getting
over a million.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
That number. Now to Lawar's point, that number is going
to go up, but ten million. I can't see that because.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Cam Ward was the one player I looked at last
year and go, yeah, you could spend the name your price,
because that young man's going to elevate everyone around him,
Like he's that talented of a player. And you saw
what he did with Miami, who really didn't have much
of a football team besides cam Ward with the exception
of a few players. You know, there's no one like
that really in this year's portal, at least not right now.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
And we'll see all the games finished.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Hearn very Beck was being talked about very highly as always.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah, he's a.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
First round talent, like he just didn't put the tape
out this year. That's why he's coming back. But to
your point, he's the best. But like again, I just
I mean Camwoard's tape from Washington State the year prime
before I went to Miami was phenomenal. Beck's tape is
not that, and he's come out of surgery. Like, if
you're a team, think about this, folks. There's a lot
of I should say, there's a lack of formality to
(31:33):
a lot of these nil signings. So in the NFL,
if you go for like a visit with the team
as a free agent, you get a passive physical, so
they're gonna check you out. Their doctor's gonna check you out,
they'll do imaging and all this stuff. They may work
you out, they may just visit with you. It just depends.
But either way they want to take a look under
the hood. That doesn't happen in college football. They signed
(31:55):
these guys up for deals half the time before they
even get the campus. And so you're looking at it
going wait a second, like the guy has to get
a follow up surgery or he asked you something cleaned up,
because the doctor's ever had a chance to look at
him so the whole process is jacked up in that
and that part, in my opinion, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
God, you go you get sure, you don't have any
eligibility left. You can go back and make a couple
of million right now, just all the just like, how
many LeVar how much money would you have do you
think you could have gotten?
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I mean, you guys are walking around that stadium, like
you saw how many eleven jerseys eleven like things that
are out there. I mean, and and here's what's funny.
I'll tell you this. It was way worse when I
was there. Every other person had elevens on when I
was in school. So I don't know, I don't know
(32:51):
how much I would have made. I don't I don't
know what. You know, how that would all played out
because it was a different time. So even if you
were allowed to get paid, you know, I just think
that it was a different time in terms of how
maybe companies and corporations would have approached deals with with
athletes in college. They probably wouldn't even known how to
(33:13):
really do it, how to really leverage it. But I
will say this, it would have been interesting. I think
nil and our age like you're saying get paid. But
I think it would have I think it would have
destroyed college football because most of the coaches would not
have been able to survive that era in time.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
From that era, the things that.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Were handled the way that they were handled by old
school coaches, I just don't.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Think that they would have been able to hard ass approach.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
I I just don't think that these coaches could coach
in today's And that's another thing to give you know,
Freeman credit for, you know, and even coach Franklin credit for,
and even Day credit for and Sarkesian, you know, with
with these top four teams, is being able to keep
(34:10):
keep teams and keep guys pushing forward and staying motivated
even in a day and age where you know, athletes
want to get an i L. Money and you see
somebody else on your team that's getting, you know, getting paid,
You're looking at him like, well, I'm just as good
as he is, or I should be talked about as
(34:30):
being just as good as he is. So you got
to manage a lot more elements, you know that that
that come down the line. You have to be more
aware and more open to how you communicate with these
athletes and their parents. Oh, and by the way, and
their agents. I mean I've heard I've heard instances where
(34:51):
the agent called the a d or the coach and said, listen,
you know we don't get get a deal, you know,
get a deal done, We're going to sit him out
like he's not going to play this week. Yeah, you
know that's happening now. And these these coaches have to
be able to manage that.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And just I want to go back LeVar to your
time with Joe Paul because I was told this by
a Penn Stater like when just so people understand like
how they how he viewed for example, like old school coaches,
how he viewed professional football.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Like I was.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Told that if a team wanted to come in and
work a player out on campus, couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Didn't believe in that, No, no, think about that.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Like this is an NFL team comes in and says,
I want to work out LeVar Arrington and Joe Batarna.
The head coach is like, no, that's I don't believe
in that, Like like these these young men.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Need to go onto the workforce, get.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
A real job and go on, Like I just I
hear that and go, yeah, that guy like Joe Batarna
would have had a really hard time with Nil. If
he's not even helping player work out for an NFL
team to get drafted, that's bizarre.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I mean, I just you also don't think he could
have Like him and some of those other coaches, everybody
would have left like like an adaptor died.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
They can't, you can't.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
The adaptation I believe would have been way too great
because this stems far beyond just like okay, like if
you if you're looking at it from the standpoint of
how do you discipline guys, and if you're a true disciplinarian,
like old school style disciplinarian, how do you really adjust
(36:39):
that and how do you really adapt that?
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Where they're sitting.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
There and they're saying to you, yeah, I don't think
I'm a practice today. I just ain't feeling up to it.
I'm not feeling up for it, Like, yeah, you're going
to practice. You know what Joe used to Joe used
to One of Joe's things was he'd be like, I'm
gonna send you on a bustown a brush.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
You I want to send you back.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
You know how quick dudes would be like kiss my ass.
And that's Joe like you're talking about Joe.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Kiss my ass? Like, get out of here.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Send it back on the bus.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Yeah, I got a card Joe, A nice one too.
You ain't got to send me nowhere. I'm hitting the portal,
you know what I mean. Dudes was stressed out that
wanted to transfer and couldn't transfer because they were too
afraid to go get the blessing to go, get Joe
to sign off on them leaving.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I need to go. What's keeping your hair? I don't
want to go talk to Joe.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
That'd be a different I don't know how that would
have went down, and I'd be like, you know people,
you know, Homo sapiens and dinosaurs existing together just wouldn't work.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
That would not work out.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
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(38:25):
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More on the morning after the Orange Bowl Classic between
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(39:19):
this around, potentially this was going to happen. It is
now official. The wild card game between the Vikings and
the Rams has been moved to Arizona out of the
interest of public safety. Based on the wildfires in southern California.
That game has now been moved so much for the
home field advantage for the Rams, and now this game
(39:40):
goes to the desert. The line going into this game
before the move was at one and a half and
now it is the Vikings minus two and a half.
So there has been a little bit of a difference.
And you know, I guess a different number thrown out
there based on this game getting moved, But you know,
it seemed like it made sense. It seemed like we
were heading in this direction. And if you're a Vikings
(40:02):
fan or you're the Vikings, you probably feel better about
this one than having to go to La to have
to deal with whatever, you know, road environment you were
going to get it so.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Far there were they gonna get a road environment or
was it gonna be more like a home game for Minnesota?
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
I mean, look, you know that that fan base travels well,
and you know Rams.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Fan Minnesota finished with a better overall record. Right, Yeah,
some would say you could do like a reseed there,
I mean, you know, totally like it actually maybe should
be in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Like would you be opposed to if the NFL said
if moving forward. If the four seed, meaning the division
winner in each conference, has a worse record than the
five seed, the five seed gets the home game. Like
I would be totally okay with that, but apparently they
don't want to do that because the owners want to
put a premium on winning your division. It's fine, make
(40:51):
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
But well, again and again, and I get it because
I think in some ways what bothers me about it is,
you know, winning overall doesn't matter quite as much, right,
it's winning your division first.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
May that means more?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
And again we've talked about this, like you've seen teams
with losing records get to host a home playoff game
just because they won the division.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
So again, these are conversations I think more for the
off season.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
But it is interesting that that's the case.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah, they want that playoff revenue. You know, you're hosting
a playoff game, you want that revenue. And those twenty
eight dollars beers that people are walking around the venue
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