January 25, 2025 • 49 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys recap Ohio State beating Brady’s Fighting Irish. The Old P, Petros Papadakis joins the guys in celebration of LiAngelo Ball’s rap career and the National Championship. Plus, a breakdown of Lee’Reina’s misadventures with the gym.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar rings and rating Win and Jonas Knox
on four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mallard, God bless your ears, sir. Why God bless your ears?
Holy moldly, what happened? Uh? Put my airphones up my head,
set my cans on with his uh volume setting. Yeah,
it's beyond loud, that's all. God bless your ears, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
One group of people who are going to be loud
is the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
They want to be loud, Yes they will, but for
how long? How long before they want to fire day again?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
It's good enough, they'll be They'll be loud until they
run into a Michigan fan. A Michigan fan will remind
them that they beat him.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
This past I beat. I'll give Notre Dame credit.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
They made it somewhat competitive towards the end, and the
first drive started getting good vibes, and then afterwards too
much talent.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Man, I don't even know if it was too much talent.
I think look, Notre Name's banged up. You know, it's
been part of the storyline. They've faced a bunch of
injuries different levels. And I said this last week. I
think when we were talking before you know, we had
a new addition in our lives. But I was talk
about the linebacker play and I thought this game would
(01:30):
be one where that would be the position group that
stood out. And I thought of of all the groups
that as far as like needed to have a big
game that probably didn't was Notre name linebackers. Like I'm
thinking that that's I want, you know, in the back
of my mind right now, I think of, like what play,
what moment they've really had that was a big play,
(01:52):
maybe the fumble recovery that kind of helped them get
back into the game when I think it was what
it was a mecha a Buka who had the long,
long reception and they had a fumber recovery. But there
weren't many plays where Notre Dame's linebackers impacted the game
like they have throughout the course of the season. That
(02:13):
was that was one thing that I kind of thought
of and like stood out. But I mean, look, I
thought that game started about as perfect as it could
have for Notre Dame, and obviously Ohio State was going
to respond after that first drive, but it was just
the inability to I think get off the field, get
a stop. I mean, Ohio State did what you know,
Penn State and Georgia probably should have tried to do
(02:35):
more of. And that was lean on that defensive front
that was banged up for Notre Dame. But they were
able to do it and they kind of controlled the
game after that second quarter from.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
There on out.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I mean my sentiments, and it's crazy because Penn
State and Georgia did it at times, they just didn't
stay with it. And for what it's worth, I mean,
the quarterback play was at a higher level, at a
higher level than Georgia and Penn State. The receiver level
was at a higher level. I won't say running backs,
(03:05):
but but those two elements seemed to be which I think.
I think there's some accuracy to what you're saying. In
terms of the linebackers, there just wasn't a lot of pressure.
It just seemed like maybe they were sitting back and
trying to keep them in front of them, almost like
they were in that Tampa two type of set scenario
(03:28):
where it was like, if as long as we keep
Ohio State in front of us, will be okay.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Because it didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Seem as though they were as active as they had
been in games prior to this one. So I mean
they started revving it up a little bit, and they
started like running a couple different like type of stunts
or different type of approaches to get into the backfield.
But I don't know, I thought that their game plan.
(03:53):
I thought that their game plan was just a little
bit different than what it had been. And I don't
know if it's because I was of you know, game
playing from Ohio State and the way they forced you know,
Notre Dame to align and and to play and who
was going to be in there, or I know they
played the nickelback with Ryan Clark's son pretty much the
whole game.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know, That's what they do, right, That's what they.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Do anyway, right, So it just I don't it just
seemed like it was a different approach, you know than
what it had been in games prior to Well.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I won't, we won't. We want need to get an
argument about it? Was it was?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
It was the defense they ran. They talked about it
going into it. They can't make a wholesale change. The
lack of pressure largely kind of came from look Ohio
stated a good job protecting will Howard, and I thought,
you know, look the injuries to the defensive front, Rodley Mills,
who leads the team in sacks, or you know, you know,
a couple of the other players up front, you know,
(04:50):
guys who were more impactful off the edge. They it
just they weren't there and it kind of showed up,
you know. And that's that's the reality of what happens
when you've got injuries and you've got guys who you
know aren't aren't there out there that are your your
game breakers. But again, look credit to Ohio State. That team,
when they play to their potential, was the best team
in the country.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know at times.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You saw that this year and I thought, you know,
one of the things that Ryan Day needs more, you know,
deserves more credit for, is they could have gone in
the tank. They could have been licking their wounds. They
could have not responded after losing to Michigan for four
straight years. But Ryan Day got that team motivated and
got them to be able to play their best football
(05:33):
at the start of the playoffs and after that Bud
Kigy versus Tennessee absolutely the first half of wiping out
Oregon altogether. I mean, you go through the list of
teams they went through to get there, Texas then Notre Dame.
I don't know that there's been a national champion that's
had a harder path. Now, granted, the expanded playoff as
part of that, but like the LSU team that won
(05:55):
it with Burrow comes to mind, they played a really
really hard schedule that season and obviously went through the
fourteen playoff. That one comes to mind too, because the
SEC championship game obviously the College Football Playoff. But outside
of that, man, like, I can't think as many teams
that played the gauntlet that some of these teams played
this season. So credits to Ryan Day and I wonder
(06:17):
a little bit like how much the whole flag planning
thing kind of little fire on this team and kind
of it sounds stupid to mention, but when you really
think about it, like this is a team that didn't
lay down, like they were still ready to fight, they
still had games left to play and fight for, and
there's you could see elements of that. I mean I again,
(06:39):
I was at that Ohio State Tennessee game and they
were able to wipe away a loss to their biggest
rival and their biggest rivalry in sports, in my opinion,
and still be able to respond. So you know, credit
to that team, credits to Ryan Day. You got to
take your hat off and give them credit where credits due.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Here was Blackbeard himself, speculations whether or that was Beijing
or whether it was just for men Clara wax will
shoe polish, but here he was postgame.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
These guys could, you know, learn a bunch of life lessons.
But they're going to go down in Ohio State history.
Some of you know, one of the greatest teams to
ever play at Ohio State. After all the things that
have been said throughout the year, these guys are going
to be cemented as one of the best stories in
Ohio State history and one of the best football teams ever.
Only nine teams have ever done it, and three in
the over fifty years.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
These guys right here.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
And there was a point where not a lot of
people had that vision, but these guys did and they
saw it through. And Ohio State may not be for everybody,
but it's for these guys, and I'm really proud of them.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And the best part about it.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Doesn't matter because you run into a Michigan fan and
they've owned for four years. Yeah, but but Ohio State
fans have been saying this for a long time. Well,
the one that matters most is beating Michigan.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Okay, all right, so.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Y cautiously be clear, if they had lost that game
last night, the conversations would be drastically different today. Like
we can say, hypothetically or maybe even realistically and factually,
Michigan fans will do that you didn't even make the playoffs, Michigan, Like,
good for you. You won the game, you'll get your
(08:20):
gold pants or whatever it is, y'all get good for y'all,
But you weren't even in the playoffs. They were good
enough to make it in the playoff, and they redeemed
their loss to Oregon in an emphatic fashion. In fact,
every single game they've played in in the playoff game,
as it was detailed by Q, has been an emphatic fashion.
(08:42):
So that's cool if you're a Michigan fan and that's
what you had to lean on. But let's be clear
that there's levels to this. There's levels that them boys
just won the national title. Like props do they won
the national title, So you can okay, we're Michigan, Yeah
you didn't even make it. I mean, you didn't even
(09:02):
make it. You didn't even make it to the playoffs
this year. My guys, sorry, oh sorry, I mean, just
keep it in a proper trust me. I know exactly
what you're saying. I'm just telling you right now. Because
that's a petty rivalry and there's a lot of pettyness.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
And I was in Atlanta, you know, I was in Atlanta.
There's there's Michigan fans. I was like, what are you
doing here? They're like, oh, we just wanted to come
around and make sure to remind a how State they
lost to us this year. I'm like, all right, Like
Michigan fans went to Atlanta just to remind Ohio State
fans about the game earlier this season.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But that rivalry is as petty and as crazy as
it gets. So I understand what you're saying. Man, Like
Ohio State won it. They got the national championship. You know,
cooon is to Ryan Day too, because I was part
of the conversation after the loss of Michigan is like, well,
you know, who are they gonna find? Like he's not
a good coach. He's like, no, he is a really
(10:05):
good coach. He's he's gonna eventually win a national championship.
It happened to be this year, and he'll eventually figure
out how to beat Michigan. Like they'll change that that
run that's happened right now for for the Wolverines.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
But trust me, there's there's still.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Gonna be a lot of Michigan fans to hold on
to that for this past season.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I Like I said, rivalries, they matter, good for them,
but I mean they're the national champs. So sorry, Like
nobody's going to take anything away from which y'all beat
Ohio State, but nobody's going to take anything away from
your national championship last year, which, by the way, it
is two years straight that it has been a Big
Ten representative when win the championship.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It is. It is interesting now that nil is legalized.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You know, you kind of looked the past couple of
years and it's and and really even look at like
the schools that were in you had Michigan versus Washington
last year, you have a high state unit name this year,
I mean last year is a complete Big Ten. This
year it's one team, but another team that's kind of
in that region. Like you look at the impact that
nil has had on all these other teams now able
(11:11):
to construct their roster, and therein lies kind of your
solution maybe to what was always missing in the past.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Any issue with Marcus Freeman electing to kick a field
goal down sixteen at that point?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Do we have this sound?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Because I do think you got to play his response
because it you know, I'll just say this.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I mean, he's got a guy who is very sharp.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
It was constantly usually with them on the sideline, sometimes
in the booth. That's giving him those stats. And I
imagine what the conversation was. But do we have the sound?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
First? Yeah, I just awesome.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
You know, instead of being down sixteen, let's try to
go down thirteen. And I know it's still a two
score game, but you have better probability of getting fourteen points,
and you do sixteen points.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And so if it was.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
A shorter fourth and situation, I probably would have gone
for it. But I just felt fourth and nine was
not a great chance for us to make that, and
you know, and decided to kick it and we didn't
make it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Look, I mean, if it make the kick, I don't
know that anyone second guessing decision. Maybe still a little
bit because you're looking at the numbers. But again he's
got a guy who's telling him the probably.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Four minutes left. It was, Yeah, I think it was
a little more than.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That was like six no, half, No, I don't think
it was that much. I think it was like like
four and a half minutes. I want to say it
was like four. I'm I'm pretty certain I saw like
four minutes because I was thinking to myself, how many
I think they had? What they they had all their
timeouts right at that time, or maybe one their timeouts,
(12:43):
and they had the two minutes and had the two minutes.
I thought it was not I didn't think that there
was enough time. I thought it was a in a way,
I thought it was a gutsy good decision rather than
a gutsy bad decision.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Or however you would want to call it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I thought it made sense to get it the third
team because it was going to be you. You have
to be perfect in order to be able to score
two more times. It was it was the other the
other touchdown. That's then it makes it even more, That
makes it even more. That's a good decision. That's if
you get the three points. You have nine minutes left,
(13:18):
you have all your timeouts. The defense was was doing
pretty they were doing pretty good against Yeah, they were
doing pretty good.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You know. The penalty take.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Place after with the hit on the quarterback. Was that
after they missed the field gold or was it before?
It might have been before.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Before the after the time out the TV timeout, Marcus
Freeman was talking.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And said, yeah, you know the penalty. We need it.
We need a turnover if we can get it, and
Chris f then they get a turnover.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Chris Fowler made the point of the broadcast. He's like, well,
you know the thing about Ohio State is they don't
fumble the ball. Then they fumbled that play.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
They fumbled the ball and No Dame recovered it. So
it opened the door.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
I mean I could have you know, would have helped
if maybe Notre Dame would have kept the score within
fourteen and a half.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Close close, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I mean they over didn't hit it, you know in
that case, right it did for your six point teacher,
you just go ahead and tell everyone you lost on both.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Ends of listen tease you know me. Yeah, and I
tried and he tried.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
And it did not not Yeah, damn it didn't work well.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Well, they kept it within that number.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
One on that side of it, you lost the yeah
over Yeah I needed and I felt good about the under,
especially after the first quarter because it was two long drives.
Nobody could seemingly get anybody off the field, and I
was like, okay lost.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Ohio State was in trouble, man.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The way they moved that ball in that first yeah,
first series, I was like, oh, these boys in trouble.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
It felt like Ohio State though, And this is something
that they don't get enough credit for, is their adjustments.
Notre Dame's done a good job of that too throughout
the playoffs, but Ohio State, you know, Jim Knowles, their
defensive coordinator, and even Ryan Dane schip Kelly like they
made his adjustments as well as anyone in second halfs
of games this year. If we actually go back through
the regular season too, so kind of knew that may
(15:09):
be coming. But just going back to the decision again,
he's got a guy who's giving him those probabilities. I imagine
that he said to him like, hey, here's your win probability.
With nine and a half minutes left, all your timeouts
and you know where we're at like your ability to
and especially this team this year, like you know, they're
(15:30):
gonna have to throw the football. You know, that hasn't
been the strength. Even though Riley Leonard I thought, played
as good of a game as he could have. You know,
that was about as good as he could have last night.
The kid's tough, he's gritty, he's a leader, he's all
those things, but he's just not going to be able
to dice you up and you know, through the air
and make some of those plays like he made some
(15:51):
good throws last night. He has the season, but it's
just that's not his strength. And I thought in that
moment it wasn't the worst decision. It backfires when you
miss because now it looks like, okay, this is insurmountable. Now,
like we lost all momentum we had getting down here.
But people could second guess it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I know a lot of purists are like, what are
you doing at this point in the game, and why
not at least I try to go for it because
the counter to all that's like, well, if the probability
of getting sixteen points isn't as good as getting you know, fourteen,
the reality is you're down to a point where you're like,
you're not really taking into account probabilities because you got
nine and a half minutes left to win the game.
(16:31):
So you got to do something and you're gonna have
to get desperate. You have to work against the odds
at some point. So that's kind of the counter that conversation.
But again, in the end, you're.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Going to be at that field gold in the end,
if you're a football purist and you understand how probabilities work,
chances are you're going to need that field goal at
the end of the game versus at that point where
he kicked it. Well, So it just it just kind
of it works out that way because it's the problem
ability of you getting two touchdowns and two point conversions.
(17:05):
It's not highly likely. It's not going to be highly likely.
So you're going to be down by that field gold anyway,
if you were to score the two you know, the
two touchdowns, you're gonna if you miss one of those
those two points, you're going to have to end up
kicking the field goal, whether it's one minute left, you know,
(17:26):
fifty seconds left, and you have the ball back and
you got to try to get down there to kick
a field goal, whatever it is. Chances are you were
going to end up having the kick a field goal
to win the game. So I didn't have a problem
for me. I didn't have a problem with with the logic.
I thought it was less time. There was even more
time than what I was thinking. So it's kind of
(17:46):
like you had your timeouts, you had nine minutes turn
it into a thirteen point game. Your defense is playing
pretty decent right now, take a chance, take a chance,
like it's a momentum swing, and you didn't take. You know,
you didn't take the momentum away by missing all fourth down.
It was fourth and long, So at that point in
the game, you're playing a decent defense.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I thought it was a good decision. If you ask God,
I wonder how obnoxious Breer is going to be? God
all that Breer is going to be.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Here's the thing is, Breer did he even go to
the game. That might have been why they won that
he wasn't a part of the game.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I thought he sent a tweet out, he's sent something.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yet it was like like when like when the whole
e fing thing or something like that, Like he actually
cursed in his tweet, which means He's probably been licking
the letter a little lit pre game, and then you know,
got a little froggy and decided to jump on social
media and start, you know, cursing it up a storm
with friends with a.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Lot of Ohio State players. But I don't like Ohio State.
I think Ohio State and Michigan people are snobs. I
think they're like arrogant snobs.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, but where do they fall?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Like if you had to go like snob rankings, who's
one and who's too?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Honestly, I would have thought a while back, I would
have thought Michigan was one to tell how states two?
But I don't know, man, I don't know. I think
they're one in one a to be honest. In terms
of football schnobs, it's it's pretty they're pretty high.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
They're both pretty high up there.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Hey, speaking of licking the lid, how's Lee doing that.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
This morning? But yesterday was a rough one for him.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You know, Hey Lee, Hey guys, yeah, bro, yesterday, how
are we doing? Buddy? I'm doing pretty good?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And we heard there was a reblocking that took place
as well too, So yeah, you know reblocking, Yeah, you
missed a lot yesterday. Man, they tell them.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Yeah, Mike Shanahan would be proud of the blocking scheme
by Lee's girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Oh yeah, oh wow, that way, we're still doing that. Huh.
Well you saw you saw what I said walked out
of my own phone nowadays.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, you saw what I sent you yesterday to the
Dynamic Duo, right, yeah, all right, So that that was
a whole like three segments of the show yesterday, and
and it was pretty entertaining, is what I'll say. Super entertaining.
But we found out that well, uh, Lorena and Lee
(20:19):
being workout buddies partners, just it wasn't you know, that
wasn't part of what the discussed plan was, and that
became common not preapproved.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It was not your life decisions after you be preapproved
by someone else.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, and then and then and then checked on at
the gym oh no, oh yeahh no, oh yeah, and
then action taken you know, upon leaving no no hugs,
so you had to get the side hug no following
on social media. Uh, do not break the five inch rule,
(21:00):
you know, the Well I.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Shouldn't go into too many details on this, but I
was gonna say, you know that the thing with the
side hug is you know you kind of like a
lot of women feel like it's a less intimate hug. Yet,
if we're being real, you know, when a guy gives
like the side hug, there's there's portions of his body
that may hit against the woman's body.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Just because you.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Because because of the angle angle, like if you do
a front two hand like normal hug and embrace, there's
the hips back that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Where you don't really feel as much in the lower
half of the man. She was worried about my hips.
Also side your hips.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I think she was Lee's hips against your side of
your you.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Know, also side hug. Better view from what I've been told. Yeah,
you've been told that.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I apologize yesterday.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You know, we've got a new born, little baby boy,
born last Thursday, So congratulate littlecade. Quinn takes some I
had to take some time off to be with him,
be with the wife, all that good stuff. Everyone's happy, healthy,
eating a lot, pooping a lot, nice, uh, sleeping off
and on.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
So we're going through all that. Yeah, he's alighted over.
Yeah all right, wow, No, they're good.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Now I'll be a granddad. Next time I'm doing this,
I'll be a granddad. Yeah, that can starting over. Yeah,
because I just want to be able to hold the baby,
and when the baby does any of those things that
you just mentioned, I just want to hand off.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
There you go. It's all yours back to you, and
now back to you.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
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Speaker 5 (22:55):
All right, speaking of the Ball family, somebody who knows
the Ball family very well. He has covered them extensively
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I don't know. I think they're the best.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Jellow ball line was very undercover years ago that we
covered on the radio a couple of years ago. He
had a baby. Well, so you know his girlfriend had
a baby, a bad child, he said, technically that's that
is the term. You know, I mean, scarface had it wrong.
If I die, then my child will be a bastard. Well,
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if if you're not married, he's already a bastard scarface.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Hey you have to die.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Ah, but he had a kid, Jello Ball had a baby.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, what's the matter with you?
Speaker 8 (25:30):
They asked Jello Ball about having a baby and how
his brothers felt about it, because you know, his brothers
at that time were much more famous than him. This
is before the big rap song Tweaker, And he said, uh, my,
my brothers are excited to be an uncle to my seed.
So he's always been a Warren Smith. You know, I
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say what I want to.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They excited to be the uncle's.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
To my seat of my See that's a direct quote
shallow Ball.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Oh it's so dumb.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's catchy though, but it's so it's such a it's
it's a idiot. So it's so dumb.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It might be the best thing that family's done. I
swear to God. Well, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Mellow Ball is making more money than him, but he
spends so much. Every time he wears an outfit, he
has to buy a matching Lamborghini. Is gonna that is
gonna drain your bank account quick?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Hey, P do you p do you buy the speculation
that Big Baller brand shoes.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Blew up the other one Monzo's leg fell off because
of it.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
You buy that sure shoes were that?
Speaker 8 (27:00):
I mean, if I have to buy the fact that
Magic Johnson drafted Lonzo over de Aaron Fox and Jason
Tatum because they served him strawberry waffles and Gino Hills.
I mean literally that was like, he's like this family,
I went to breakfast, we eat strawberry waffles. I had
to pick up it.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That sounds amazing, though, I'm.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Gonna starting this strawberry waffles in the house.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh my god, Oh my god, waffle. I like, I
don't want to get off the subject. I want to
try to find the.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Way chiny shoes.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Let my leg funk off?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh my gosh, draft these shoes were my leg fall off?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Oh put it back on.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
Give me another contract because my brother's getting richer.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Whatever happened to the oldest ball and his girlfriend?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Were they were they married? Did they have a kid together?
And is Latina? Yes? I believe she was the Tina.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
The one that has the parents, that owned the strip joint,
that that does the That's not the oldest one, that's
that's Jello forever.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
He was kind of.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
The relationship.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
What about me back, man, I'm still so shocked that
the white guy from Camp by Me Love got to
be in the gang in Colors?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Kenneth, Is that the redheaded guy?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Yeah, he's like all hard.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Wasn't he the weirder on the burbs too?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Why does he get to be I'm gonna say what
I say. I'm so sorry, stop we candidate. It took
us we edited that. We never found the glean version.
We literally it took us like an hour to edit
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ten seconds.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, what was Kate's doing that old time?
Speaker 8 (29:04):
It was like hole.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Atros?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Seriously, what did you think about the grand finale of
the college football season?
Speaker 8 (29:21):
You know, I guess we all kind of I mean
I did. I had faith or hope that Notre Dame
would hang around and punch him in ahead a little bit,
and they did to a certain degree. But Ohio State
was the more talented team. And Ohio State kind of
reminded me of like a jittery racehorse, right, or that
one really good athlete when you're twelve, who lays down
(29:44):
on the field like he's dead, you know, and then
pops up like Rod did Well. You know, like you
know somebody who's a little high strung and you could
tell because of the way the Michigan game went for
them the last four years, but they were the more
talented team and they took it to Notre Dame and
it probably sort of just came to fruition in that way.
(30:05):
I thought after the first drive that Notre Dame's quarterback
was going to be metavacked out in a stretcher. Looked
like he was like just absolutely spent and barfing on
the sideline.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And it's what he does. Baby.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
I loved him. I mean, I absolutely I loved that
first drive. It was inspiring, but you know how sustainable though, No,
it didn't seem so after when Ohio State Kate got
took the ball and Chip Kelly started to exploit the
perimeter and create vertical run lanes all over the field,
you start of got the feeling that it was going
to be that kind of night. The interesting thing I
(30:39):
think is now all this talk about how Notre Dame
was in the locker room, and there's all kinds of
arguments about some of the placet off. He was just
Dan Wolken.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
He was a douche like. He was the only one
that said it. If you listen to any interview anyone else.
No one else had that, and then he walks it
back by going, what was so ue characteristic? It's like stop,
save your woke stuff somewhere else, Like just stop, I'm saying,
but it's.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
A bigger conversation for me.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
But I understand Wolkean is not the most well loved
member of the media, and some other people kind of
admitted that guys weren't talking and stuff in a much
more greg air or gracious way, trying to be understanding
of the situation. But it is interesting, and I'm not
really I don't spend a lot of time in locker rooms.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
After the game.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I mean, we call the game when we leave, and
I remember being in the locker room after the game
as a player and doing it when I work the
se sideline and different things like that. But the one
thing that is interesting is these guys get paid now,
you know, and we're in this really interesting sort of
gray area between these guys get paid and these guys
(31:52):
are quote unquote student athletes or college kids or they're
just kids. But but they're also getting paid. So I
don't know the media treats it. I may be a
little bit different than they used to when players won't talk.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But that part of it.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
I mean I wanted Lou Holtz to come down and
do something, but he looked like he was pretty comfortable
up in the booth with the blanket on his lap.
But I wanted to come down and maybe stare down
Ryan Dan halftime. That might have changed things.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Interesting. What about Herb Street after the game? Did you
have any issues because that became.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
More a yeah, a talking point with all the emotions involved.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Seems like he's been going through a lot.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
But I mean, if you're going through a lot, why
do you call six games a week?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Right?
Speaker 8 (32:32):
I mean I can't tell. I mean, he's a mobile
as far as what our business goes. But I think
Kirk Kirk Street became popular or became the leading voice
in our sport, college football, because he was so happy,
A good looking guy, happy to be there, having a
(32:52):
great time, very positive.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Everybody liked him.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Seemed to really know how to deliver the information in
an exciting way and in a way that was really palpable. Right,
Because being an announcer is a very subjective thing. Some
people's favorite guy is Tony Romo, and some people can't
stand when he opens his mouth, you know. I mean
it's a very subjective thing to say. If an announcer
(33:20):
is good, Well, what do you think about Tony Romo Petros.
I think he's pretty I mean, I think he's all right.
I mean he's excited. Sometimes, yeah, sometimes he doesn't say anything.
I think he set the bar pretty high in the
first few games he called by knowing the offensive coordinator.
And at the same time, I mean, if you're a
football analyst, it's not that hard to kind of feel
(33:41):
like you get in the red zone circle the tight end,
you're probably going to be a genius football analyst, and
the predictability stuff got a little old clad tight end
a lot. Yeah, well, hey, it's it's it's a great
idea from you, all right. I learned it from watching you.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
I just I sometimes sometimes when when Romo does so
much predicting and then jim Nant says, well it's third
and two, what do you think they're gonna do? Uh Tony,
It's like, Okay, well he's fine, everybody's fine. The thing
about Herbstreet, though, it's like he got popular because he
(34:23):
was having a good time and now he's arguing with people.
He's fighting. Total fan bases. He seems to be. I mean,
he seems to be a total shill for the SEC
and and for whatever the interest of the company are.
And then he's crying because he loved the Ohio State
team so much in postgame and needed a tissue.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, that's gonna turn off a lot of people. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Sorry you just if you call a game, you can't
be crying about the result afterward because you're so happy
for somebody. That's that's my I mean, the guy's built
up a lot of equity. He lives on a private
jet with a dog, doing pro in college football. He's
very much involved in the football world in a way
that others are not because he's so embedded and he's
(35:12):
doing it all the time. But I think that he's
begun to swallow his own bait and he seems a
little bit. Yeah, he seems just he seems a little bit.
And people say this about me in a much lower level, right,
but he seems like a caricature of what made him
popular in the first place.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
It just doesn't seem like he's doing that. Well, what
would your response be to people who say that's what
you are?
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Well, I would say that that's I don't call if
I'm calling a game, if somebody were to say that
about me. I mean, if I'm calling a game, I
don't really care who the network's affiliated with or not.
I just call it straight up. I mean, I've been
doing it so long that the affiliations of the network
have changed and I'm not high enough on the food
chain to really worry about every sentence that I say
(35:58):
being scrutinized.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
In Kirk karb Street, I'll say it right now, Well, thanks,
appreciate you got it.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
I certainly don't have an agenda built it. And I
guess that's what that's what it kind of feels like.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I guess yeah. I find you more entertaining too, and
I think you say stuff like to your point, like,
I don't know that Kirk makes any comments that are
probably critical when it is deserving.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
Well, he's made so many friends, right, I mean, you know,
when you're friends with everybody in the in the college
football world, you want to protect your friends. And I
ain't got no friends. Jeff, you guys, I mean you
must say what I want to know.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, you have the lizard too, the lizard, Yeah, come on,
oh got Petros. We got Petros on the show. Yeah. Uh,
did you have any Uh?
Speaker 5 (36:52):
There was some We were talking about this a little
bit earlier that people were bitching and moaning about the
fact that you had the National Championship Game the day
after the divisional playoffs in the NFL, and it was
just more complaints because that's what people like to do.
You got any issue with the timeline and the timing
of when the game took place.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
Well, I think a lot of people were watching inauguration
stuff too, right, whether they were excited or outraged.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
When you Lefart told me he wasn't LeVar said he
was not watching.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
I mean it got cut of cake with a saber.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I watched it.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
He's doing a ymc D hold it a sword, I
must say.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
You know, yeah, I think that there'll be some tweaks, you.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
Know about when and how sweakers? Yeah, much like okay,
we can't what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Whoa? We got no.
Speaker 8 (37:49):
In the NFL. The NFL was playing when they were
doing the first round, so they flipped it to t
n T and but used their own uh game production.
But tn T got to do the studio, which was
just a bunch of like Brady knows that you throw
a studio show together after everybody's been working for three
and a half months and tell them to do the
(38:09):
championship that was with Victor Cruz out there doing the salsa.
That was a little uh, that was awkward. I think
there's a lot of things that can change. And you know,
ending in at the Rose Bowl on January first, which
a lot of people have brought up, including the great
Joe Klatt.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I don't, I don't, I don't see it. How does
that work?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
You have too many weeks and games of yeah, they
win the football schedule. The bye week certainly didn't help anybody.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
And I mean, when you think about it, bye weeks
in pro football and pro sports, which you guys played.
The one thing that really impresses me, because I'm such
an emotional wreck, is the way these guys emotionally deal
with the road and the way that they can just
go play football and the crowd doesn't affect him in
the same way because they've been doing it a long
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time and in college. That's one of the great things
about the sport, other than the hashmark being wider, is
the fact that kids freak out and it makes for
exciting plays, it makes for mistakes, it makes for it
makes for the chaos of college football, and you don't
get that much in the NFL. But what happens in
(39:16):
the NFL, just like college is a week off is
not exactly a great thing.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I mean, it's a huge.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
Debate in pro sports rest versus rust. So you know
it's going to affect the college kids even more with
finals and all the different things. If they are even
doing that, some schools are probably not, but all the
things that go into it, I think make it really
hard to perform or be the same team you were
in the postseason that you were in the regular season.
(39:44):
So I mean, when you look at all the way
that all the bye teams performed, some of them didn't
even wake up to the third quarter, maybe there needs
to be a tweak there, but I'm too stupid to
figure out what they should do. Having it up against
the NFL and all that different stuff was a little
bit problematic.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Well, and like Thursday night Friday night games, it's like,
come on, man, like they need to work with the
NFL and say we'll take Saturdays, all right. The Saturday
ratings weren't good for the NFL either, So I just
don't understand why you can't save that for college football.
Let the NFL owns some of the other days. But
I want to ask you just because it's all said
and done now, and I know, coming off what you
(40:23):
just said, like, what do you think I mean overall,
were you like, Yeah, I think this is great.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
It's gonna work, It's gonna keep growing.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
The sport at this point because it is a one
year sample size.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, I mean I liked it.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
But then again, I mean, I like you and LV games, right,
So I mean I'm totally invested in the breakfast.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Like Mike Leech used to say.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
The chicken has invested, but the park is completely invested,
you know, in the breakfast of college football. So I'm
I mean, I like all the weird nuances. I like
seeing Washington State acting like they have a chance at
the College Football Playoff while they're playing games at New
Mexico in November. So that kind of thing I thought
(41:05):
was good for the regular season. The implications for a
lot more games made it more interesting for some people.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
For me, I mean, I have to show up.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Anyway, But that was cool and it was cool to
see more teams involved in the excitement of the home
games in the first round. I mean, there was a
lot of good with it and a lot of bad,
but I think overall, I.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Think it's a good thing that needs to keep going forward.
Speaker 8 (41:27):
I wish it wasn't a shadow controlled by ESPN, but
that's that's how it is.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
He is the old pon X.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Petros Papaek is the co host of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch A
five to seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
I mean, doesn't Brady have enough kids now that he
can start working like a band?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Dang?
Speaker 8 (41:48):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
That the Quinn fav I never thought about that.
Speaker 8 (41:53):
Yeah, he made me like an Irish like a folk
shanty group. Yeah, well come, you know, like something like that.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Either my wife rykers sing or have any musical talent.
Speaker 8 (42:05):
So that's our ball is out there saying like Berry White.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Right, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
This song is Oh my gosh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
I mean, Petros, give me a studio next time I
come out to l A and we'll lay down some.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Bars and.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Is throw somemato tone on theres a you're good. Yeah,
pretty easy. Yeah, you could do it. Hell yeah, we
could have a rap group. Yeah, I'll do the Jamaican stuff.
We could just call ourselves. Get him to the Greek
you know.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, but I do a Jamaican accent. That's right. It's
got to be done in a Jamaican accent, of course.
Speaker 8 (42:47):
And we need a Chinese Jamaican guy because those are
the best.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That is funny when you hear it. Oh god, there's
a lot of Chinese people.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (42:55):
The first, yeah, the first guy to record Bob Marley
and the Way is a Chinese guy and.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
He sounds like a Jamaican.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
Hey, why coming record now? They the biggest record company
in Jamaica, moved to Jamaica Queens and in New York
and they're run by a Chinese family, I believe, the
Hong family. And like, if you hired like a great
reggae singer like Jip Shann or somebody to come and talk.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
To you guys, it's.
Speaker 8 (43:28):
Probable that a seventy year old Chinese woman would bring
him to the radio station VP Records, which used to
be Randy's records, Randy Chin.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Maybe it's the Chins.
Speaker 8 (43:39):
They are still the biggest label of Jamaican music in
America in the world, and it's completely Chinese. Run a
lot of Chinese people in Jamaica and guess what they
own liquor stores.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Believe it or not, it's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
But yeah, I've seen Asian people, you know, when I'm there,
and it's kind of interesting hearing them speak petchway.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
They chot bob oh. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
A lot of a lot of Japanese in Peru and
Brazil to.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
I gotta go back to Jamaic and see this. When
I was there, I did not see any of this,
So I need to figure this.
Speaker 8 (44:15):
Just go and ask him where the local chiny Man is.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
That's what they call him, sorry, the local watch.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
All right song, famous yellow Man song, mister Chin. I
was like, Long Shonglong die. No really, maybe I don't know.
You should turn it instead of yellow Ball. You should
listen to mister Chin by the Yellow Man.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Can you bring us back to that, please, mister Chin? Yeah,
I want, I want, I don't. That doesn't sound like
a profanity song, so no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
There. It is. Oh there you pull it up.
Speaker 8 (44:56):
He's talking about mister Chin. I thought that was three
eleven now, yeah, three eleven stole that. Uh three eleven
is a white band from New York?
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Your energy? Whoa are you for? Sanity rioting? I'm missuching.
Speaker 8 (45:14):
It's about mister Chin in his store and then that
he that he takes mister Chin's daughter around the back.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Cats make songs about anything, won't they.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I feel like this is starting to seem like this
is starting to seem like country, because country makes songs
about everything.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Is that similar course? Yeah? Okay to regular? Okay, I
mean listen, I'm a fan of Tweaker. I know that.
All right. It's number one song in America? Is it
really number one?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
I'm sorry to bring something that joint is horrible. I'm
just saying, and it will never be it will never
be anything but horrible. And that's all I'm gonna say. Yeah,
oh my god.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
You call him Piangelo Ball. Well, p let them know.
Speaker 8 (46:00):
Pe.
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Speaker 8 (46:15):
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Speaker 1 (46:19):
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Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well it should be there. I mean, I have to
tell you I was thinking it should have been. But
all right, so who's got what to report anybody?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I was just really really like kind of under the
weather from all of the traveling and stuff like that.
And yeah, man, like my belly was all jacked up.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
And by the way, have you been home at all
in your new place?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Just like recently recently? Yeah, like the last few days.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Like two three weeks and you've barely been there.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Went to bills yesterday, got my deal del Riegro or whatever?
Speaker 3 (47:00):
So good, Deliegro. What is that?
Speaker 2 (47:03):
It's like really good at Bill's yea the spot or
Manhattan Beach. Nice, might go back this morning. Yeah, we
should meet me there. Yeah, it's good anyway. One, Oh
you got I mean I was going to finish, but
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
No, I'll let you go go ahead, go, I'll get out.
Go ahead. What happened? I have been blocked by Lee
this weekend on my social media? Oh wow, really that
is an I are what happened? Lee?
Speaker 8 (47:32):
Why?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Why?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (47:35):
They airing out personal personal beef here? You know, the
girlfriend's probably listening audience and make you block her.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
She she wasn't a big fan of us going to
the gym together. I guess said no, no, so this
is real. This is a real thing.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Your girlfriend made you block her off social media and.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Larada, Larada took it to the air. Good for you, lreeda,
thank you, I said, you probab should do that. But
all right here we are, Oh drama?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Oh what else happened?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
You kept us in the dark on this one. Everything's fun?
Is it just for the weekend? Or yeah, I'll fix
it up. So oh I unblocked myself. Yes, yeah, we're
all fine. Wait how would you unblock yourself? And I
unblocked myself So.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
He went on his phone and went onto his page
and unblocked herself.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I got Lee, you're gonna die. I know your death
is coming soon. Jee's coming soon. Lee.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
You're in a relationship with a human woodshipper. This is
gonna go poorly man.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Loraina thinks it's funny, which is which is wow?
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Because Lorna you might get caught up too. Hey, I
got my burner. Remember Fargo? Remember Fargo? God damn, that's
how you're gonna end up. That is an I are wow.
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar rings and rating Win and Jonas Knox
on four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mallard, God bless your ears, sir. Why God bless your ears?
Holy moldly, what happened? Uh? Put my airphones up my head,
set my cans on with his uh volume setting. Yeah,
it's beyond loud, that's all. God bless your ears, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
One group of people who are going to be loud
is the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
They want to be loud, Yes they will, but for
how long? How long before they want to fire day again?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
It's good enough, they'll be They'll be loud until they
run into a Michigan fan. A Michigan fan will remind
them that they beat him.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
This past I beat. I'll give Notre Dame credit.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
They made it somewhat competitive towards the end, and the
first drive started getting good vibes, and then afterwards too
much talent.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Man, I don't even know if it was too much talent.
I think look, Notre Name's banged up. You know, it's
been part of the storyline. They've faced a bunch of
injuries different levels. And I said this last week. I
think when we were talking before you know, we had
a new addition in our lives. But I was talk
about the linebacker play and I thought this game would
(01:30):
be one where that would be the position group that
stood out. And I thought of of all the groups
that as far as like needed to have a big
game that probably didn't was Notre name linebackers. Like I'm
thinking that that's I want, you know, in the back
of my mind right now, I think of, like what play,
what moment they've really had that was a big play,
(01:52):
maybe the fumble recovery that kind of helped them get
back into the game when I think it was what
it was a mecha a Buka who had the long,
long reception and they had a fumber recovery. But there
weren't many plays where Notre Dame's linebackers impacted the game
like they have throughout the course of the season. That
(02:13):
was that was one thing that I kind of thought
of and like stood out. But I mean, look, I
thought that game started about as perfect as it could
have for Notre Dame, and obviously Ohio State was going
to respond after that first drive, but it was just
the inability to I think get off the field, get
a stop. I mean, Ohio State did what you know,
Penn State and Georgia probably should have tried to do
(02:35):
more of. And that was lean on that defensive front
that was banged up for Notre Dame. But they were
able to do it and they kind of controlled the
game after that second quarter from.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
There on out.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I mean my sentiments, and it's crazy because Penn
State and Georgia did it at times, they just didn't
stay with it. And for what it's worth, I mean,
the quarterback play was at a higher level, at a
higher level than Georgia and Penn State. The receiver level
was at a higher level. I won't say running backs,
(03:05):
but but those two elements seemed to be which I think.
I think there's some accuracy to what you're saying. In
terms of the linebackers, there just wasn't a lot of pressure.
It just seemed like maybe they were sitting back and
trying to keep them in front of them, almost like
they were in that Tampa two type of set scenario
(03:28):
where it was like, if as long as we keep
Ohio State in front of us, will be okay.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Because it didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Seem as though they were as active as they had
been in games prior to this one. So I mean
they started revving it up a little bit, and they
started like running a couple different like type of stunts
or different type of approaches to get into the backfield.
But I don't know, I thought that their game plan.
(03:53):
I thought that their game plan was just a little
bit different than what it had been. And I don't
know if it's because I was of you know, game
playing from Ohio State and the way they forced you know,
Notre Dame to align and and to play and who
was going to be in there, or I know they
played the nickelback with Ryan Clark's son pretty much the
whole game.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know, That's what they do, right, That's what they.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Do anyway, right, So it just I don't it just
seemed like it was a different approach, you know than
what it had been in games prior to Well.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I won't, we won't. We want need to get an
argument about it? Was it was?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
It was the defense they ran. They talked about it
going into it. They can't make a wholesale change. The
lack of pressure largely kind of came from look Ohio
stated a good job protecting will Howard, and I thought,
you know, look the injuries to the defensive front, Rodley Mills,
who leads the team in sacks, or you know, you know,
a couple of the other players up front, you know,
(04:50):
guys who were more impactful off the edge. They it
just they weren't there and it kind of showed up,
you know. And that's that's the reality of what happens
when you've got injuries and you've got guys who you
know aren't aren't there out there that are your your
game breakers. But again, look credit to Ohio State. That team,
when they play to their potential, was the best team
in the country.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know at times.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You saw that this year and I thought, you know,
one of the things that Ryan Day needs more, you know,
deserves more credit for, is they could have gone in
the tank. They could have been licking their wounds. They
could have not responded after losing to Michigan for four
straight years. But Ryan Day got that team motivated and
got them to be able to play their best football
(05:33):
at the start of the playoffs and after that Bud
Kigy versus Tennessee absolutely the first half of wiping out
Oregon altogether. I mean, you go through the list of
teams they went through to get there, Texas then Notre Dame.
I don't know that there's been a national champion that's
had a harder path. Now, granted, the expanded playoff as
part of that, but like the LSU team that won
(05:55):
it with Burrow comes to mind, they played a really
really hard schedule that season and obviously went through the
fourteen playoff. That one comes to mind too, because the
SEC championship game obviously the College Football Playoff. But outside
of that, man, like, I can't think as many teams
that played the gauntlet that some of these teams played
this season. So credits to Ryan Day and I wonder
(06:17):
a little bit like how much the whole flag planning
thing kind of little fire on this team and kind
of it sounds stupid to mention, but when you really
think about it, like this is a team that didn't
lay down, like they were still ready to fight, they
still had games left to play and fight for, and
there's you could see elements of that. I mean I again,
(06:39):
I was at that Ohio State Tennessee game and they
were able to wipe away a loss to their biggest
rival and their biggest rivalry in sports, in my opinion,
and still be able to respond. So you know, credit
to that team, credits to Ryan Day. You got to
take your hat off and give them credit where credits due.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Here was Blackbeard himself, speculations whether or that was Beijing
or whether it was just for men Clara wax will
shoe polish, but here he was postgame.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
These guys could, you know, learn a bunch of life lessons.
But they're going to go down in Ohio State history.
Some of you know, one of the greatest teams to
ever play at Ohio State. After all the things that
have been said throughout the year, these guys are going
to be cemented as one of the best stories in
Ohio State history and one of the best football teams ever.
Only nine teams have ever done it, and three in
the over fifty years.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
These guys right here.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
And there was a point where not a lot of
people had that vision, but these guys did and they
saw it through. And Ohio State may not be for everybody,
but it's for these guys, and I'm really proud of them.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And the best part about it.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Doesn't matter because you run into a Michigan fan and
they've owned for four years. Yeah, but but Ohio State
fans have been saying this for a long time. Well,
the one that matters most is beating Michigan.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Okay, all right, so.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Y cautiously be clear, if they had lost that game
last night, the conversations would be drastically different today. Like
we can say, hypothetically or maybe even realistically and factually,
Michigan fans will do that you didn't even make the playoffs, Michigan, Like,
good for you. You won the game, you'll get your
(08:20):
gold pants or whatever it is, y'all get good for y'all,
But you weren't even in the playoffs. They were good
enough to make it in the playoff, and they redeemed
their loss to Oregon in an emphatic fashion. In fact,
every single game they've played in in the playoff game,
as it was detailed by Q, has been an emphatic fashion.
(08:42):
So that's cool if you're a Michigan fan and that's
what you had to lean on. But let's be clear
that there's levels to this. There's levels that them boys
just won the national title. Like props do they won
the national title, So you can okay, we're Michigan, Yeah
you didn't even make it. I mean, you didn't even
(09:02):
make it. You didn't even make it to the playoffs
this year. My guys, sorry, oh sorry, I mean, just
keep it in a proper trust me. I know exactly
what you're saying. I'm just telling you right now. Because
that's a petty rivalry and there's a lot of pettyness.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
And I was in Atlanta, you know, I was in Atlanta.
There's there's Michigan fans. I was like, what are you
doing here? They're like, oh, we just wanted to come
around and make sure to remind a how State they
lost to us this year. I'm like, all right, Like
Michigan fans went to Atlanta just to remind Ohio State
fans about the game earlier this season.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But that rivalry is as petty and as crazy as
it gets. So I understand what you're saying. Man, Like
Ohio State won it. They got the national championship. You know,
cooon is to Ryan Day too, because I was part
of the conversation after the loss of Michigan is like, well,
you know, who are they gonna find? Like he's not
a good coach. He's like, no, he is a really
(10:05):
good coach. He's he's gonna eventually win a national championship.
It happened to be this year, and he'll eventually figure
out how to beat Michigan. Like they'll change that that
run that's happened right now for for the Wolverines.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
But trust me, there's there's still.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Gonna be a lot of Michigan fans to hold on
to that for this past season.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I Like I said, rivalries, they matter, good for them,
but I mean they're the national champs. So sorry, Like
nobody's going to take anything away from which y'all beat
Ohio State, but nobody's going to take anything away from
your national championship last year, which, by the way, it
is two years straight that it has been a Big
Ten representative when win the championship.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It is. It is interesting now that nil is legalized.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You know, you kind of looked the past couple of
years and it's and and really even look at like
the schools that were in you had Michigan versus Washington
last year, you have a high state unit name this year,
I mean last year is a complete Big Ten. This
year it's one team, but another team that's kind of
in that region. Like you look at the impact that
nil has had on all these other teams now able
(11:11):
to construct their roster, and therein lies kind of your
solution maybe to what was always missing in the past.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Any issue with Marcus Freeman electing to kick a field
goal down sixteen at that point?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Do we have this sound?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Because I do think you got to play his response
because it you know, I'll just say this.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I mean, he's got a guy who is very sharp.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
It was constantly usually with them on the sideline, sometimes
in the booth. That's giving him those stats. And I
imagine what the conversation was. But do we have the sound?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
First? Yeah, I just awesome.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
You know, instead of being down sixteen, let's try to
go down thirteen. And I know it's still a two
score game, but you have better probability of getting fourteen points,
and you do sixteen points.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And so if it was.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
A shorter fourth and situation, I probably would have gone
for it. But I just felt fourth and nine was
not a great chance for us to make that, and
you know, and decided to kick it and we didn't
make it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Look, I mean, if it make the kick, I don't
know that anyone second guessing decision. Maybe still a little
bit because you're looking at the numbers. But again he's
got a guy who's telling him the probably.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Four minutes left. It was, Yeah, I think it was
a little more than.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That was like six no, half, No, I don't think
it was that much. I think it was like like
four and a half minutes. I want to say it
was like four. I'm I'm pretty certain I saw like
four minutes because I was thinking to myself, how many
I think they had? What they they had all their
timeouts right at that time, or maybe one their timeouts,
(12:43):
and they had the two minutes and had the two minutes.
I thought it was not I didn't think that there
was enough time. I thought it was a in a way,
I thought it was a gutsy good decision rather than
a gutsy bad decision.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Or however you would want to call it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I thought it made sense to get it the third
team because it was going to be you. You have
to be perfect in order to be able to score
two more times. It was it was the other the
other touchdown. That's then it makes it even more, That
makes it even more. That's a good decision. That's if
you get the three points. You have nine minutes left,
(13:18):
you have all your timeouts. The defense was was doing
pretty they were doing pretty good against Yeah, they were
doing pretty good.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You know. The penalty take.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Place after with the hit on the quarterback. Was that
after they missed the field gold or was it before?
It might have been before.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Before the after the time out the TV timeout, Marcus
Freeman was talking.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And said, yeah, you know the penalty. We need it.
We need a turnover if we can get it, and
Chris f then they get a turnover.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Chris Fowler made the point of the broadcast. He's like, well,
you know the thing about Ohio State is they don't
fumble the ball. Then they fumbled that play.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
They fumbled the ball and No Dame recovered it. So
it opened the door.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
I mean I could have you know, would have helped
if maybe Notre Dame would have kept the score within
fourteen and a half.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Close close, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I mean they over didn't hit it, you know in
that case, right it did for your six point teacher,
you just go ahead and tell everyone you lost on both.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Ends of listen tease you know me. Yeah, and I
tried and he tried.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
And it did not not Yeah, damn it didn't work well.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Well, they kept it within that number.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
One on that side of it, you lost the yeah
over Yeah I needed and I felt good about the under,
especially after the first quarter because it was two long drives.
Nobody could seemingly get anybody off the field, and I
was like, okay lost.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Ohio State was in trouble, man.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The way they moved that ball in that first yeah,
first series, I was like, oh, these boys in trouble.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
It felt like Ohio State though, And this is something
that they don't get enough credit for, is their adjustments.
Notre Dame's done a good job of that too throughout
the playoffs, but Ohio State, you know, Jim Knowles, their
defensive coordinator, and even Ryan Dane schip Kelly like they
made his adjustments as well as anyone in second halfs
of games this year. If we actually go back through
the regular season too, so kind of knew that may
(15:09):
be coming. But just going back to the decision again,
he's got a guy who's giving him those probabilities. I imagine
that he said to him like, hey, here's your win probability.
With nine and a half minutes left, all your timeouts
and you know where we're at like your ability to
and especially this team this year, like you know, they're
(15:30):
gonna have to throw the football. You know, that hasn't
been the strength. Even though Riley Leonard I thought, played
as good of a game as he could have. You know,
that was about as good as he could have last night.
The kid's tough, he's gritty, he's a leader, he's all
those things, but he's just not going to be able
to dice you up and you know, through the air
and make some of those plays like he made some
(15:51):
good throws last night. He has the season, but it's
just that's not his strength. And I thought in that
moment it wasn't the worst decision. It backfires when you
miss because now it looks like, okay, this is insurmountable. Now,
like we lost all momentum we had getting down here.
But people could second guess it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I know a lot of purists are like, what are
you doing at this point in the game, and why
not at least I try to go for it because
the counter to all that's like, well, if the probability
of getting sixteen points isn't as good as getting you know, fourteen,
the reality is you're down to a point where you're like,
you're not really taking into account probabilities because you got
nine and a half minutes left to win the game.
(16:31):
So you got to do something and you're gonna have
to get desperate. You have to work against the odds
at some point. So that's kind of the counter that conversation.
But again, in the end, you're.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Going to be at that field gold in the end,
if you're a football purist and you understand how probabilities work,
chances are you're going to need that field goal at
the end of the game versus at that point where
he kicked it. Well, So it just it just kind
of it works out that way because it's the problem
ability of you getting two touchdowns and two point conversions.
(17:05):
It's not highly likely. It's not going to be highly likely.
So you're going to be down by that field gold anyway,
if you were to score the two you know, the
two touchdowns, you're gonna if you miss one of those
those two points, you're going to have to end up
kicking the field goal, whether it's one minute left, you know,
(17:26):
fifty seconds left, and you have the ball back and
you got to try to get down there to kick
a field goal, whatever it is. Chances are you were
going to end up having the kick a field goal
to win the game. So I didn't have a problem
for me. I didn't have a problem with with the logic.
I thought it was less time. There was even more
time than what I was thinking. So it's kind of
(17:46):
like you had your timeouts, you had nine minutes turn
it into a thirteen point game. Your defense is playing
pretty decent right now, take a chance, take a chance,
like it's a momentum swing, and you didn't take. You know,
you didn't take the momentum away by missing all fourth down.
It was fourth and long, So at that point in
the game, you're playing a decent defense.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I thought it was a good decision. If you ask God,
I wonder how obnoxious Breer is going to be? God
all that Breer is going to be.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Here's the thing is, Breer did he even go to
the game. That might have been why they won that
he wasn't a part of the game.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I thought he sent a tweet out, he's sent something.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yet it was like like when like when the whole
e fing thing or something like that, Like he actually
cursed in his tweet, which means He's probably been licking
the letter a little lit pre game, and then you know,
got a little froggy and decided to jump on social
media and start, you know, cursing it up a storm
with friends with a.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Lot of Ohio State players. But I don't like Ohio State.
I think Ohio State and Michigan people are snobs. I
think they're like arrogant snobs.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, but where do they fall?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Like if you had to go like snob rankings, who's
one and who's too?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Honestly, I would have thought a while back, I would
have thought Michigan was one to tell how states two?
But I don't know, man, I don't know. I think
they're one in one a to be honest. In terms
of football schnobs, it's it's pretty they're pretty high.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
They're both pretty high up there.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Hey, speaking of licking the lid, how's Lee doing that.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
This morning? But yesterday was a rough one for him.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You know, Hey Lee, Hey guys, yeah, bro, yesterday, how
are we doing? Buddy? I'm doing pretty good?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And we heard there was a reblocking that took place
as well too, So yeah, you know reblocking, Yeah, you
missed a lot yesterday. Man, they tell them.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Yeah, Mike Shanahan would be proud of the blocking scheme
by Lee's girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Oh yeah, oh wow, that way, we're still doing that. Huh.
Well you saw you saw what I said walked out
of my own phone nowadays.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, you saw what I sent you yesterday to the
Dynamic Duo, right, yeah, all right, So that that was
a whole like three segments of the show yesterday, and
and it was pretty entertaining, is what I'll say. Super entertaining.
But we found out that well, uh, Lorena and Lee
(20:19):
being workout buddies partners, just it wasn't you know, that
wasn't part of what the discussed plan was, and that
became common not preapproved.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It was not your life decisions after you be preapproved
by someone else.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, and then and then and then checked on at
the gym oh no, oh yeahh no, oh yeah, and
then action taken you know, upon leaving no no hugs,
so you had to get the side hug no following
on social media. Uh, do not break the five inch rule,
(21:00):
you know, the Well I.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Shouldn't go into too many details on this, but I
was gonna say, you know that the thing with the
side hug is you know you kind of like a
lot of women feel like it's a less intimate hug. Yet,
if we're being real, you know, when a guy gives
like the side hug, there's there's portions of his body
that may hit against the woman's body.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Just because you.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Because because of the angle angle, like if you do
a front two hand like normal hug and embrace, there's
the hips back that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Where you don't really feel as much in the lower
half of the man. She was worried about my hips.
Also side your hips.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I think she was Lee's hips against your side of
your you.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Know, also side hug. Better view from what I've been told. Yeah,
you've been told that.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I apologize yesterday.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You know, we've got a new born, little baby boy,
born last Thursday, So congratulate littlecade. Quinn takes some I
had to take some time off to be with him,
be with the wife, all that good stuff. Everyone's happy, healthy,
eating a lot, pooping a lot, nice, uh, sleeping off
and on.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
So we're going through all that. Yeah, he's alighted over.
Yeah all right, wow, No, they're good.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Now I'll be a granddad. Next time I'm doing this,
I'll be a granddad. Yeah, that can starting over. Yeah,
because I just want to be able to hold the baby,
and when the baby does any of those things that
you just mentioned, I just want to hand off.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
There you go. It's all yours back to you, and
now back to you.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
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Speaker 5 (22:55):
All right, speaking of the Ball family, somebody who knows
the Ball family very well. He has covered them extensively
doing this song works.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
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Speaker 5 (23:10):
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Speaker 3 (23:23):
What's happening?
Speaker 8 (23:24):
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Speaker 3 (23:29):
Stinks. I'm gonna tell you something that's.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
You guys don't know about that hardcore rap game and
Chino Hills fool.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Let's go Huskies, Let's go, let's go Petros.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I need you becoming a strong for that.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That song would have been in style twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
A style now, no way.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
I don't know why the number one song it's a
jet paid off, it's a joke, is one of them
because he established his his uh, he got his street
card punched when he stole those sunglasses and china. Coach,
I must say what I want to.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Im.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
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have to save me. I can't hoop oh standing another
basket cherry picking form?
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Whoa my favorite intro music man? Why not?
Speaker 8 (24:40):
My favorite Jello ball? It's better than Lady Saw and
Steven Seagal.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I don't know. I think they're the best.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Jellow ball line was very undercover years ago that we
covered on the radio a couple of years ago. He
had a baby. Well, so you know his girlfriend had
a baby, a bad child, he said, technically that's that
is the term. You know, I mean, scarface had it wrong.
If I die, then my child will be a bastard. Well,
(25:11):
if if you're not married, he's already a bastard scarface.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Hey you have to die.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Ah, but he had a kid, Jello Ball had a baby.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, what's the matter with you?
Speaker 8 (25:30):
They asked Jello Ball about having a baby and how
his brothers felt about it, because you know, his brothers
at that time were much more famous than him. This
is before the big rap song Tweaker, And he said, uh, my,
my brothers are excited to be an uncle to my seed.
So he's always been a Warren Smith. You know, I
(25:51):
say what I want to.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They excited to be the uncle's.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
To my seat of my See that's a direct quote
shallow Ball.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Oh it's so dumb.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's catchy though, but it's so it's such a it's
it's a idiot. So it's so dumb.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It might be the best thing that family's done. I
swear to God. Well, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Mellow Ball is making more money than him, but he
spends so much. Every time he wears an outfit, he
has to buy a matching Lamborghini. Is gonna that is
gonna drain your bank account quick?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Hey, P do you p do you buy the speculation
that Big Baller brand shoes.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Blew up the other one Monzo's leg fell off because
of it.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
You buy that sure shoes were that?
Speaker 8 (27:00):
I mean, if I have to buy the fact that
Magic Johnson drafted Lonzo over de Aaron Fox and Jason
Tatum because they served him strawberry waffles and Gino Hills.
I mean literally that was like, he's like this family,
I went to breakfast, we eat strawberry waffles. I had
to pick up it.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That sounds amazing, though, I'm.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Gonna starting this strawberry waffles in the house.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh my god, Oh my god, waffle. I like, I
don't want to get off the subject. I want to
try to find the.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Way chiny shoes.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Let my leg funk off?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh my gosh, draft these shoes were my leg fall off?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Oh put it back on.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
Give me another contract because my brother's getting richer.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Whatever happened to the oldest ball and his girlfriend?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Were they were they married? Did they have a kid together?
And is Latina? Yes? I believe she was the Tina.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
The one that has the parents, that owned the strip joint,
that that does the That's not the oldest one, that's
that's Jello forever.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
He was kind of.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
The relationship.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
What about me back, man, I'm still so shocked that
the white guy from Camp by Me Love got to
be in the gang in Colors?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Kenneth, Is that the redheaded guy?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Yeah, he's like all hard.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Wasn't he the weirder on the burbs too?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Why does he get to be I'm gonna say what
I say. I'm so sorry, stop we candidate. It took
us we edited that. We never found the glean version.
We literally it took us like an hour to edit
(29:01):
ten seconds.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, what was Kate's doing that old time?
Speaker 8 (29:04):
It was like hole.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Atros?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Seriously, what did you think about the grand finale of
the college football season?
Speaker 8 (29:21):
You know, I guess we all kind of I mean
I did. I had faith or hope that Notre Dame
would hang around and punch him in ahead a little bit,
and they did to a certain degree. But Ohio State
was the more talented team. And Ohio State kind of
reminded me of like a jittery racehorse, right, or that
one really good athlete when you're twelve, who lays down
(29:44):
on the field like he's dead, you know, and then
pops up like Rod did Well. You know, like you
know somebody who's a little high strung and you could
tell because of the way the Michigan game went for
them the last four years, but they were the more
talented team and they took it to Notre Dame and
it probably sort of just came to fruition in that way.
(30:05):
I thought after the first drive that Notre Dame's quarterback
was going to be metavacked out in a stretcher. Looked
like he was like just absolutely spent and barfing on
the sideline.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And it's what he does. Baby.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
I loved him. I mean, I absolutely I loved that
first drive. It was inspiring, but you know how sustainable though, No,
it didn't seem so after when Ohio State Kate got
took the ball and Chip Kelly started to exploit the
perimeter and create vertical run lanes all over the field,
you start of got the feeling that it was going
to be that kind of night. The interesting thing I
(30:39):
think is now all this talk about how Notre Dame
was in the locker room, and there's all kinds of
arguments about some of the placet off. He was just
Dan Wolken.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
He was a douche like. He was the only one
that said it. If you listen to any interview anyone else.
No one else had that, and then he walks it
back by going, what was so ue characteristic? It's like stop,
save your woke stuff somewhere else, Like just stop, I'm saying,
but it's.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
A bigger conversation for me.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
But I understand Wolkean is not the most well loved
member of the media, and some other people kind of
admitted that guys weren't talking and stuff in a much
more greg air or gracious way, trying to be understanding
of the situation. But it is interesting, and I'm not
really I don't spend a lot of time in locker rooms.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
After the game.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I mean, we call the game when we leave, and
I remember being in the locker room after the game
as a player and doing it when I work the
se sideline and different things like that. But the one
thing that is interesting is these guys get paid now,
you know, and we're in this really interesting sort of
gray area between these guys get paid and these guys
(31:52):
are quote unquote student athletes or college kids or they're
just kids. But but they're also getting paid. So I
don't know the media treats it. I may be a
little bit different than they used to when players won't talk.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But that part of it.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
I mean I wanted Lou Holtz to come down and
do something, but he looked like he was pretty comfortable
up in the booth with the blanket on his lap.
But I wanted to come down and maybe stare down
Ryan Dan halftime. That might have changed things.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Interesting. What about Herb Street after the game? Did you
have any issues because that became.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
More a yeah, a talking point with all the emotions involved.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Seems like he's been going through a lot.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
But I mean, if you're going through a lot, why
do you call six games a week?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Right?
Speaker 8 (32:32):
I mean I can't tell. I mean, he's a mobile
as far as what our business goes. But I think
Kirk Kirk Street became popular or became the leading voice
in our sport, college football, because he was so happy,
A good looking guy, happy to be there, having a
(32:52):
great time, very positive.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Everybody liked him.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Seemed to really know how to deliver the information in
an exciting way and in a way that was really palpable. Right,
Because being an announcer is a very subjective thing. Some
people's favorite guy is Tony Romo, and some people can't
stand when he opens his mouth, you know. I mean
it's a very subjective thing to say. If an announcer
(33:20):
is good, Well, what do you think about Tony Romo Petros.
I think he's pretty I mean, I think he's all right.
I mean he's excited. Sometimes, yeah, sometimes he doesn't say anything.
I think he set the bar pretty high in the
first few games he called by knowing the offensive coordinator.
And at the same time, I mean, if you're a
football analyst, it's not that hard to kind of feel
(33:41):
like you get in the red zone circle the tight end,
you're probably going to be a genius football analyst, and
the predictability stuff got a little old clad tight end
a lot. Yeah, well, hey, it's it's it's a great
idea from you, all right. I learned it from watching you.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
I just I sometimes sometimes when when Romo does so
much predicting and then jim Nant says, well it's third
and two, what do you think they're gonna do? Uh Tony,
It's like, Okay, well he's fine, everybody's fine. The thing
about Herbstreet, though, it's like he got popular because he
(34:23):
was having a good time and now he's arguing with people.
He's fighting. Total fan bases. He seems to be. I mean,
he seems to be a total shill for the SEC
and and for whatever the interest of the company are.
And then he's crying because he loved the Ohio State
team so much in postgame and needed a tissue.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, that's gonna turn off a lot of people. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Sorry you just if you call a game, you can't
be crying about the result afterward because you're so happy
for somebody. That's that's my I mean, the guy's built
up a lot of equity. He lives on a private
jet with a dog, doing pro in college football. He's
very much involved in the football world in a way
that others are not because he's so embedded and he's
(35:12):
doing it all the time. But I think that he's
begun to swallow his own bait and he seems a
little bit. Yeah, he seems just he seems a little bit.
And people say this about me in a much lower level, right,
but he seems like a caricature of what made him
popular in the first place.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
It just doesn't seem like he's doing that. Well, what
would your response be to people who say that's what
you are?
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Well, I would say that that's I don't call if
I'm calling a game, if somebody were to say that
about me. I mean, if I'm calling a game, I
don't really care who the network's affiliated with or not.
I just call it straight up. I mean, I've been
doing it so long that the affiliations of the network
have changed and I'm not high enough on the food
chain to really worry about every sentence that I say
(35:58):
being scrutinized.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
In Kirk karb Street, I'll say it right now, Well, thanks,
appreciate you got it.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
I certainly don't have an agenda built it. And I
guess that's what that's what it kind of feels like.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I guess yeah. I find you more entertaining too, and
I think you say stuff like to your point, like,
I don't know that Kirk makes any comments that are
probably critical when it is deserving.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
Well, he's made so many friends, right, I mean, you know,
when you're friends with everybody in the in the college
football world, you want to protect your friends. And I
ain't got no friends. Jeff, you guys, I mean you
must say what I want to know.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, you have the lizard too, the lizard, Yeah, come on,
oh got Petros. We got Petros on the show. Yeah. Uh,
did you have any Uh?
Speaker 5 (36:52):
There was some We were talking about this a little
bit earlier that people were bitching and moaning about the
fact that you had the National Championship Game the day
after the divisional playoffs in the NFL, and it was
just more complaints because that's what people like to do.
You got any issue with the timeline and the timing
of when the game took place.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
Well, I think a lot of people were watching inauguration
stuff too, right, whether they were excited or outraged.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
When you Lefart told me he wasn't LeVar said he
was not watching.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
I mean it got cut of cake with a saber.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I watched it.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
He's doing a ymc D hold it a sword, I
must say.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
You know, yeah, I think that there'll be some tweaks, you.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
Know about when and how sweakers? Yeah, much like okay,
we can't what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Whoa? We got no.
Speaker 8 (37:49):
In the NFL. The NFL was playing when they were
doing the first round, so they flipped it to t
n T and but used their own uh game production.
But tn T got to do the studio, which was
just a bunch of like Brady knows that you throw
a studio show together after everybody's been working for three
and a half months and tell them to do the
(38:09):
championship that was with Victor Cruz out there doing the salsa.
That was a little uh, that was awkward. I think
there's a lot of things that can change. And you know,
ending in at the Rose Bowl on January first, which
a lot of people have brought up, including the great
Joe Klatt.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I don't, I don't, I don't see it. How does
that work?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
You have too many weeks and games of yeah, they
win the football schedule. The bye week certainly didn't help anybody.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
And I mean, when you think about it, bye weeks
in pro football and pro sports, which you guys played.
The one thing that really impresses me, because I'm such
an emotional wreck, is the way these guys emotionally deal
with the road and the way that they can just
go play football and the crowd doesn't affect him in
the same way because they've been doing it a long
(38:56):
time and in college. That's one of the great things
about the sport, other than the hashmark being wider, is
the fact that kids freak out and it makes for
exciting plays, it makes for mistakes, it makes for it
makes for the chaos of college football, and you don't
get that much in the NFL. But what happens in
(39:16):
the NFL, just like college is a week off is
not exactly a great thing.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I mean, it's a huge.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
Debate in pro sports rest versus rust. So you know
it's going to affect the college kids even more with
finals and all the different things. If they are even
doing that, some schools are probably not, but all the
things that go into it, I think make it really
hard to perform or be the same team you were
in the postseason that you were in the regular season.
(39:44):
So I mean, when you look at all the way
that all the bye teams performed, some of them didn't
even wake up to the third quarter, maybe there needs
to be a tweak there, but I'm too stupid to
figure out what they should do. Having it up against
the NFL and all that different stuff was a little
bit problematic.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Well, and like Thursday night Friday night games, it's like,
come on, man, like they need to work with the
NFL and say we'll take Saturdays, all right. The Saturday
ratings weren't good for the NFL either, So I just
don't understand why you can't save that for college football.
Let the NFL owns some of the other days. But
I want to ask you just because it's all said
and done now, and I know, coming off what you
(40:23):
just said, like, what do you think I mean overall,
were you like, Yeah, I think this is great.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
It's gonna work, It's gonna keep growing.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
The sport at this point because it is a one
year sample size.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, I mean I liked it.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
But then again, I mean, I like you and LV games, right,
So I mean I'm totally invested in the breakfast.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Like Mike Leech used to say.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
The chicken has invested, but the park is completely invested,
you know, in the breakfast of college football. So I'm
I mean, I like all the weird nuances. I like
seeing Washington State acting like they have a chance at
the College Football Playoff while they're playing games at New
Mexico in November. So that kind of thing I thought
(41:05):
was good for the regular season. The implications for a
lot more games made it more interesting for some people.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
For me, I mean, I have to show up.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Anyway, But that was cool and it was cool to
see more teams involved in the excitement of the home
games in the first round. I mean, there was a
lot of good with it and a lot of bad,
but I think overall, I.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Think it's a good thing that needs to keep going forward.
Speaker 8 (41:27):
I wish it wasn't a shadow controlled by ESPN, but
that's that's how it is.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
He is the old pon X.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Petros Papaek is the co host of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch A
five to seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
I mean, doesn't Brady have enough kids now that he
can start working like a band?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Dang?
Speaker 8 (41:48):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
That the Quinn fav I never thought about that.
Speaker 8 (41:53):
Yeah, he made me like an Irish like a folk
shanty group. Yeah, well come, you know, like something like that.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Either my wife rykers sing or have any musical talent.
Speaker 8 (42:05):
So that's our ball is out there saying like Berry White.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Right, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
This song is Oh my gosh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
I mean, Petros, give me a studio next time I
come out to l A and we'll lay down some.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Bars and.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Is throw somemato tone on theres a you're good. Yeah,
pretty easy. Yeah, you could do it. Hell yeah, we
could have a rap group. Yeah, I'll do the Jamaican stuff.
We could just call ourselves. Get him to the Greek
you know.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, but I do a Jamaican accent. That's right. It's
got to be done in a Jamaican accent, of course.
Speaker 8 (42:47):
And we need a Chinese Jamaican guy because those are
the best.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That is funny when you hear it. Oh god, there's
a lot of Chinese people.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (42:55):
The first, yeah, the first guy to record Bob Marley
and the Way is a Chinese guy and.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
He sounds like a Jamaican.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
Hey, why coming record now? They the biggest record company
in Jamaica, moved to Jamaica Queens and in New York
and they're run by a Chinese family, I believe, the
Hong family. And like, if you hired like a great
reggae singer like Jip Shann or somebody to come and talk.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
To you guys, it's.
Speaker 8 (43:28):
Probable that a seventy year old Chinese woman would bring
him to the radio station VP Records, which used to
be Randy's records, Randy Chin.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Maybe it's the Chins.
Speaker 8 (43:39):
They are still the biggest label of Jamaican music in
America in the world, and it's completely Chinese. Run a
lot of Chinese people in Jamaica and guess what they
own liquor stores.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Believe it or not, it's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
But yeah, I've seen Asian people, you know, when I'm there,
and it's kind of interesting hearing them speak petchway.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
They chot bob oh. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
A lot of a lot of Japanese in Peru and
Brazil to.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
I gotta go back to Jamaic and see this. When
I was there, I did not see any of this,
So I need to figure this.
Speaker 8 (44:15):
Just go and ask him where the local chiny Man is.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
That's what they call him, sorry, the local watch.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
All right song, famous yellow Man song, mister Chin. I
was like, Long Shonglong die. No really, maybe I don't know.
You should turn it instead of yellow Ball. You should
listen to mister Chin by the Yellow Man.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Can you bring us back to that, please, mister Chin? Yeah,
I want, I want, I don't. That doesn't sound like
a profanity song, so no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
There. It is. Oh there you pull it up.
Speaker 8 (44:56):
He's talking about mister Chin. I thought that was three
eleven now, yeah, three eleven stole that. Uh three eleven
is a white band from New York?
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Your energy? Whoa are you for? Sanity rioting? I'm missuching.
Speaker 8 (45:14):
It's about mister Chin in his store and then that
he that he takes mister Chin's daughter around the back.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Cats make songs about anything, won't they.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I feel like this is starting to seem like this
is starting to seem like country, because country makes songs
about everything.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Is that similar course? Yeah? Okay to regular? Okay, I
mean listen, I'm a fan of Tweaker. I know that.
All right. It's number one song in America? Is it
really number one?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
I'm sorry to bring something that joint is horrible. I'm
just saying, and it will never be it will never
be anything but horrible. And that's all I'm gonna say. Yeah,
oh my god.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
You call him Piangelo Ball. Well, p let them know.
Speaker 8 (46:00):
Pe.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
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Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well it should be there. I mean, I have to
tell you I was thinking it should have been. But
all right, so who's got what to report anybody?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I was just really really like kind of under the
weather from all of the traveling and stuff like that.
And yeah, man, like my belly was all jacked up.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
And by the way, have you been home at all
in your new place?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Just like recently recently? Yeah, like the last few days.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Like two three weeks and you've barely been there.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Went to bills yesterday, got my deal del Riegro or whatever?
Speaker 3 (47:00):
So good, Deliegro. What is that?
Speaker 2 (47:03):
It's like really good at Bill's yea the spot or
Manhattan Beach. Nice, might go back this morning. Yeah, we
should meet me there. Yeah, it's good anyway. One, Oh
you got I mean I was going to finish, but
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
No, I'll let you go go ahead, go, I'll get out.
Go ahead. What happened? I have been blocked by Lee
this weekend on my social media? Oh wow, really that
is an I are what happened? Lee?
Speaker 8 (47:32):
Why?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Why?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (47:35):
They airing out personal personal beef here? You know, the
girlfriend's probably listening audience and make you block her.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
She she wasn't a big fan of us going to
the gym together. I guess said no, no, so this
is real. This is a real thing.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Your girlfriend made you block her off social media and.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Larada, Larada took it to the air. Good for you, lreeda,
thank you, I said, you probab should do that. But
all right here we are, Oh drama?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Oh what else happened?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
You kept us in the dark on this one. Everything's fun?
Is it just for the weekend? Or yeah, I'll fix
it up. So oh I unblocked myself. Yes, yeah, we're
all fine. Wait how would you unblock yourself? And I
unblocked myself So.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
He went on his phone and went onto his page
and unblocked herself.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I got Lee, you're gonna die. I know your death
is coming soon. Jee's coming soon. Lee.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
You're in a relationship with a human woodshipper. This is
gonna go poorly man.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Loraina thinks it's funny, which is which is wow?
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Because Lorna you might get caught up too. Hey, I
got my burner. Remember Fargo? Remember Fargo? God damn, that's
how you're gonna end up. That is an I are wow.
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