February 4, 2025 • 39 mins
The guys talk about how MVP voting should factor in playoff performances, Roger Goodell addressing the idea that officials are biased towards the Chiefs, a renewed call to have the Tush Push banned from the game, and more!
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Speaker 6 (02:31):
Know, ground Ground game, you know, tread on the Tire.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I think it's going to be a Saquon Barkley game,
but God thinks so, yeah, I do. Yeah, I'm the
closer we get to the game I mean, it's not
like this is a crazy revelation, but I'm just saying
I think it's going to be. He's going to be
the difference in this year's game, do you guys think?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And the only reason I bring this up is because
I feel like maybe the odds where that has always
already been.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Announced the MVP.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Oh efforting it was that Thursday Thursday this week, right.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
They air it?
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Oh, the who win MVP this year?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (03:10):
We saw them actually doing construction work at the place
they're having the NFL Honors show at. You would think
that would have gotten taken care of before this week,
but they are currently twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Trying ever we do.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
My point is like, you know, should we wait until
after the season, after the entirety of the season's done
to announce who the MVP is? And the only reason
I said that is the majority of the times we're
looking at the candidates as guys who if they're gonna win,
it have.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
To be a playoff team, which I think is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
That they're a playoff team.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I think it's ridiculous that you don't take the full
body of work into considerations.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Okay, yeah, because I think so.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Because that's what I'm saying is like, if Saquon does
go off, you look at his season in its entirety,
and yet Josh Allen's the MVP or whoever else besides Sake.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Or Lamar Jackson sitting at home.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Performance from one of the guys that are still in
the tournament is amazing, But it's just it falls on
deaf ears.
Speaker 8 (04:07):
I just I had like personally because they call me
every day, Jay, Yeah, every day, Jay.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Like, I've got a really hard time giving Saquon Barkley an.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
Award when he yeah, when he sat out when they
wanted him to play Week eighteen and he sat out.
I mean that disgusts me, to be honest with you.
But again, we won't put that on him. And again
I think that's how.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Does he do this to you? I don't try to
set the fire.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
Yeah, look, it feels like if he doesn't go off
of that game, they've got no shot.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Like that's really the that's really the I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Say that because I think if he I think if
Spags commits to a defensive scheme that limits what Saquon Barkley,
He's production will be in the game. Then all this,
all this is is an opportunity to shut down the
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conversations connected to AJ Brown and what we've experienced this season,
which is he needed to have more of a role.
I honestly, the play calling will most likely and most
certainly adjust an adapt during the course of the game.
And if you're loading up the box, if you're doing
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things that are all about filling all of the gaps
where Sakwan would run, whether it be backside or front side,
and how you're trying to deal with this daunting task
of handling Philly's offensive front, then it's it's AJ Brown time.
I would say a dark horse for being the MVP
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of the game would be AJ Brown because because it's
a setup for him to have a tremendously successful game.
So yeah, I mean that's Lee's like what what? Look
he's trying to get it.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
It's weird about right down over there.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
But he's on his computer looking like he's really busy.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He's on the Bevemo app. It's a hamster wheel of
on video. He's looking at a hamster.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
But yeah, I just I think that regardless of if
he gets one hundred plus yards in this game, which,
looking at his body of work so far, I think
it would be safe to say he's going to have
a tremendous impact yardage wise.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
But if he does not, it is stopping.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sakwon Barkley at the expense of trying to stop this
Philadelphia Eagles team in the air and that being probably
most likely you have to go man to man across
the board for the majority of this game. I do
not think that that bodes well for Kansas City defensively
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if you have to cover uh Smith and and AJ
Brown man all man all game.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
AJ Brown's fifth favorite plus thirty five hundred see homes Barkley, Hurts,
Kelsey and.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Worthy go Lee, well wait, Xavier Worthy as better odds Yeah,
plus twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Where they use him, And they're probably looking at it
as this is going to be the team that wins,
So it makes sense all to put more Kansas City
Chiefs in the mix to win the award makes sense.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Now, there is also another aspect to all this. There
is the feeling from some people that the Kansas City
Chiefs are the benefactor of the officiating in the NFL.
Roger Goodell was asked about the feeling from fans and
people that watch the games that the Chiefs get all
the calls from the officials last night.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Here was his response.
Speaker 10 (07:53):
I think the men and women to officiate in the
NFL are outstanding. They have the highest possible standards. It's
ridiculous theory for anyone who might take it seriously, But
the end of the day, you know, it's something we
always have to continue to work on. How do we
make our officiating better at all times. And if you
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look at the Chiefs record, which I think is an
amazing thing. People talk about the competitives are league. The
Chiefs with their fifteen wins fifteen to two this year,
eleven of those fifteen games were within one score, and
I think that talks about the competitiveness of our game
and the importance of how we officiate it, but also
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the competitiveess of how we play it.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
Right, Let's say, we are always thank you Roger can
prepare to some stats there, Uh, you knew, but it
kind of knows.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
How uncompetitive this entire league has been this year.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
About say, and it kind of goes it kind of
flies in the opposite direction.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
And of his reasoning that he's giving. Right, if you're.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Sitting there and you feel a certain type of way
about how the calls are going in the favor and
the direction of the Kansas City Chiefs, wouldn't you want
that that point differential differential to be larger? Would I
would want it to be more than one score, because
if it's if it's one score, you know that's that's
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separating you. Then you would say, Okay, if you don't
get those calls from the referees, there's probably the chance
that this team loses a percentage of those games that
they were able to win. I would assume that would
be the reasoning behind it. People could see that way.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I mean, by the way, Roger, you just had a
NFC championship game where Philly put up fifty five Pointsang,
all right, I don't know that we're gonna all of
a sudden start gloating about parody in the NFL turning
out you know, one state In regards to the Chiefs, I.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Mean, let's say you do you want to go for
the playoffs? In general?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I mean, how many games do we have that were
overly competitive? I mean probably the divisional round. I mean
Washington blew out Detroit. Yeah right, Kansis City. Kansas City
had a strong hold on that game. I mean it
was within technically is a two score game with the
text digits.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, they they It wasn't a competitive game. I mean,
Baltimore Philly was the best game. That was a great game.
Baltimore phil was a great game. It was a great game.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Wild Card Rown we want to go there.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I mean, it's like the only one that was close
was Tampa and Washington. The rest of all blowouts. I mean,
let's not talk about you know, parody. No, hell, it's
not even close.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Roger is like he talks like a preacher, and you
know what he sounded like, wh.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
R f K Junior.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
It was a little r f K Junior is like
the way his voice sounds. Just play it one more time,
Play it one more time. If we could re Ray,
there's a little bit of that, like raspiness to it,
the way he talks.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
There's some differences, but yeah, I mean, like definitely it will.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Be the biggest difference. I don't know, Bad News bears raylive.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Roger he went there.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, the lab have met, and uh, you know, are
we on the air?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Can you here?
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Are we on the.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Oh gosh, there she is.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
All right, Laura, do what we heard you, But we
didn't hear the sound. We hear the Roger Roger Goodell again.
Of course.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Yes, I think the men and women to officiate in
the NFL or outstanding, they have the highest possible standards.
It's ridiculous theory for anyone who might take it seriously.
But the end of the day, uh, you know, it's something.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
We have to continue to work on.
Speaker 10 (11:22):
How do we make our officiating and Jack look at the.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Just you know, voice fluctuations a little different, but you know,
but I get it.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
No, I see what you were what you were getting at.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that might touch a little bit of
Bill Clinton too. That might give it a go, give
it another go, It might touch a little bit. Did
not have sexual relations with that?
Speaker 10 (11:53):
Given of the men and women to officiate in the
NFL or outstanding, they have the high as possible standardslous Yeah, right, yeah, touch.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Out sexual relations for that woman.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Man, I never told anybody to lie.
Speaker 10 (12:13):
It kind of has kind of kind of men and
women to officiate in the NFL or what.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Going back in that what year was that was that
like ninety's a while ago.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I'm trying to think because I remember, for the longest time,
for an entire decade, Lewinsky was the name that was
given to well, we all know.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Ninety five ninety five. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
To you, but his comments were actually ninety eight okay,
but the relations.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Started into ninety five.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I just remember thinking to myself, like everyone, there was
a lot of people who just wanted to be like.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Just be honest, dude, just to be honest.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Exactly what happened. Oh, I mean we adapted adopted it. Voleownski.
Did you get good Lewinsky or did you get bad? Yeah,
there's a lot of you know, just that your reputation
was was was linked to how good of a Lewinsky
(13:20):
you were in your life. That is Monica, that is
yeah Lewski.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
That is a great point.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
That being said, that being said the whole look, Roger
Goodell could have just stopped by saying this, anybody that
thinks that the officials are siding with the chiefs over
other teams, it's ridiculous. Could have just stopped that, the
stats everything else, because it is ridiculous. They're just better
than everybody else and they win these games, just like
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the Patriots were, and.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
The better teams tend to be less penalized, not because
there's favoritism necessarily, it's more because they tend to know
how not or they don't need to break rules.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I mean, I'll put it this way.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Two of the fastest players in the NFL happen to
play wide receiver for the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
The guy who's run the fastest forty yard dash.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
We've ever seen in Xavier Worthy, and then Hollywood Brown,
who I would put him up there, right there with
the fat and the next fastest guy, Cheetah, whoever.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
You want in the league.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
So is there gonna be more holding?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Of course, Like you guys are trying to slow them
down and get hands on them, there's.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Gonna be more DEPI there's gonna be more holding.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Like they put you in situations where that's gonna happen.
Travis Kelcey just always finds a way to get separation
and wiggle and get open.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
It's like you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Hold them more.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
There's gonna be more dep I like those guys will
get more of the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
So I just I will say I do think that
the Mahomes flop does that was about it's a bad look, man,
that's a bad because that you're you're acknowledging when when
he did that, you did something that that you you undressed,
you you pull back the curtain on possibly what people
(15:02):
are suspecting or thinking really exists.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Like but when you basically.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Gave everybody the information and knowledge of you're aware that
you're getting these types of calls.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
So it was right after they called the hit to
the head, which was two Texans defenders hitting each other
and they which was totally Here's why I don't blame
Mahomes because he's probably thinking to himself, well, if they
missed that one, why don't I try and get another one,
like it's an extra fifteen.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I think it goes even further than that.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I just think that there's an understanding that he's protected well,
and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I would say this though, I think most quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Feel the same way. They feel the same way, and.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
They would try to do the same thing. Yes, you know,
like they.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Would try to, but most quarterbacks aren't in the same
situation as Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
How many times do we see Lineman or other.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
People flop flop like you yeah, yeah, of course, I
just I.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
Just for me and that Thrushers nowadays will throw it
like when they're yeah yeah, did to try and get
a call to get a hold.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And they get them and generally a defender when when
you're trying to pull away in an offensive linement it's
still holding, you throw your arms up like they generally
get the call.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
And why do they do that?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
DOT know why? Because that is what the officials are
taught to look. Yes, So when I talk about how
New England used to ask questions, they will say, like,
for example, like remember how we talk about this is
kind of more of a college thing, but they talk
about targeting, but now they even for a personal foul
with the use of the crown of the helmet and
so forth. They're talking about launching, they talk about different angles.
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They're looking for specific yes. So in this case, what
Varre saying is they're looking for the reaction of the player.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
That's that's sometimes how they're taught.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
And it's moving so so like people don't realize how
fast that s is moving on the field. If you're
watching it from the stands or even on TV, you
can see things when you're up on it on the
you have to look for those things because it's moving
so fed so if I see this, the flag is
coming out.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
That's why I think, and this is probably not popular opinion,
I think the officials do a remarkable job considering the
speed of the game, Like they get ninety five at
least percent of the calls right at least.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
What's unfortunate is we at home have the ability to
slow things down and look at that. I'm almost framed
by frame if through slow mode. I think that's that's
one of the reasons why to your point, they've done
a tremendous job. But we're also venturing into an era
where they should look at reofficiating the plays when they're
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reviewed because of this speed of it, like LeVar is
talking about, and because we have this tool now to
get it right, no different than the way pitchings looked
at in Major League Baseball or some of the other
instruments we've seen in other sports like tennis, for example.
We've got the ability to do it, so why not
and then why not just completely reofficiating disregard whatever the
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call was on the field. I know official hate probably
hearing that because they like having that power to say, like,
oh my call still matters. It does for ninety eight
percent of the game, but the those two percent you review,
they might.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
They're really important calls. There is the reason why we're
reviewing that.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Like Troy Aikman made the point on the SI Media
podcast where he said, you know, the NFL owes it
to the fans with all this money being coming from
gambling sites to get these calls.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
Right, And it's like I get, like, I totally understand.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
That you got to take those things in the consideration.
I'm sorry it becomes a part of your game.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
But also, like you know the Chiefs Texans game that
was a bad beat. That wasn't a bad beat so
much because of the officials. That was a bad beat
because Matta Rizer ran out of the end zone and
took an intentional safety. That's why people got screwed in that. Sure,
Like you can go through every game and find a
miscall or whatever, take some accountability. You lost the game
(18:49):
because it was a bad pick. All right, That's what
I do. All Right, I'm a man who takes accountability
for things, and if I make a bad pick, it's
my fault, not the official's fault. They do a remarkable
job with what they're giving each and every week, and
I think they should be supported more often.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, I feel like we have.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
In there reviewed picks against the Spread in a bit,
which I mean I still didn't under like LaVar was
ahead of you even though you.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Lee wasn't giving him credit.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I mean, Lee's over there putting his one finger up.
He's done at least three times. It's the first time
y'all have seen it.
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So the the tush push or the what else think
of the brotherly shove, brotherly so whatever other goofy nerdy
nickname that that plays.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I could have replaced the Lewinsky real damn you know,
Bill Clinton could have adopted that you know who's not
a was not related to the brotherly shove.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I did not commit it him.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
You know, he's not a fan of the toush push.
Packer's president Mark Murphy, who I think is retiring soon
if I'm not mistaken. He was in his latest Q
and A session, which, by the way, I'm really going
to miss his Q and A sessions because he doesn't
realize how brutally honest he's being at times, and he
was asked about the play the tush push, and he
said the following quote, I'm not a fan of this play.
(22:57):
There is no skill involved and it is almost an
automatic first down on plays of a yard or less.
The series of plays with the Commanders jumping off sides
in the NFC title game to try to stop the
play was ridiculous. The referee even threatened to give the
Eagles an automatic touchdown with the Commanders did not stop it.
I would like to see the league prohibit pushing or
aiding the runner on this play. There used to be
(23:19):
a rule prohibiting this, but it is no longer enforced
because I believe it was thought to be too hard
for the officials to see. The play is bad for
the game, and we should go back to prohibiting this push.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Play of this push of the runner.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
This would bring back the traditional quarterback sneak that worked
pretty well for Bart Starr and the Packers in the
Ice Bowl. End quote from Mark Murphy of the Packers.
Wait to take a stand. Mark, what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Let's just go back and do everything the way it
used to be done when bart Starr was there.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
You bet your ass do that my truck would be
new again and the hit slash icicle MP.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
So I was curious when I read the quotes from
Mark Murphy, and I reached out to Dean Blandino, and
Dean said, officials never called it, so they took it
out of the rule books, you know, probably in the
late nineties or something like that, which and then I
kind of followed up because I was like, what, it
was a rule for a long time in college. I mean,
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you go back to like the bush push game and
all that it was illegal. But to Mark Murphy's point,
the frustration from the officials is they never felt like
they could accurately officiate it in a game, going back
to the speed of the game and how hard is
to see everything.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
So that's what they took it out.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
The hard thing about this is obviously from a formation standpoint,
the way they Philly in particular lines up is legal,
but the play in and of itself doesn't look like
anything else that we see in the game of football.
And on top of that, we did, if you're just
taking saying from a true competition standpoint, we did change
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the field goal or the point after attempt, excuse me,
the point after attempt, moving it back because we thought
that was a non competitive play. Kickers were making it
a too high of clips. So it's just kind of
like a hu hum play. Okay, on fourth and one.
Look at the stats. It's not just affiliates. Every single
team look at the stats on fourth and one of
the conversion rate when they use that specific play. And
so I look at that, and I go, if it's
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a non competitive play in over seventy or seventy five
percent on fourth and one.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
There's a conversion rate.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
You've got to look at it from a competitive standpoint.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And then if you look at it from a player.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Safety standpoint, you just can't tell me the way that
play is ran on either side of the ball, especially
with what Washington was doing, that this is a safe play.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
For teams in the NFL. It's just not.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I just find it to be a tab bit curious
how it's become so commonplace to allow other players to push,
even not in just the push push scenario, just the
idea of being able to grab your teammate and drag
them and push them further in the play. And and
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by the way, listening to the color call, you know
the commentators like, oh my gosh, look at the strength
of his legs. Look at that leg dry he's just
powering his way through.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
No, he's squatch five point fifty for reps of ten.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
How much does that lineman squat that's pushing him, or
those two linemen that are pushing him through, the defenders
that are hitting him.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
It just it that to me is what's egregious and
all of this.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
The dragon point.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
At what point did it become okay to push them
and drag them the way like he's not.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
All he has to do is just hold the ball.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Just hold the ball, bro and they.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Cause you got teammates, you got teammates that are going
to do to work for you.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Just hold that ball.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Like I don't. I don't like it personally, I don't
like it. I don't like the fact that it's glorified
because it takes away from to me what what the
duty is of the person that's carrying.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
The ball is supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
But with that being said, it now makes first down
has always been a super important down. Obviously you want
to win first down, but now knowing that you are
allowed to push and aid and assist players in the
manner that you are, especially in the formation of a
toush push where you're basically creating a scrum. You're basically
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creating a scrum and one side doesn't know, like the
ball isn't.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Neutral, right, It's not neutral.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
The ball belongs to one side, so there's not a
there is a tremendously competitive edge to the offensive side
of the ball because the ball.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Is not neutral, meaning.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Both sides are not allowed to get gain possession of
the ball. So in a toush push situation, you can
do exactly what Philadelphia did, which is draw the defense
off sides, because if they don't, if there is not
a legitimate anticipation of the snap count as a defense,
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you most likely will not win the rep in a
one one yard piece of of of space on the field.
So to me, it creates an unbalanced and an uneven competitive,
you know, situation scenario on the football field. But again
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with that being said, first down now becomes important because
the second and third down now becomes a down where
I'm I'm not looking to get the first down on
third I'm actually making sure that I'm continuing to manage
how far away we are by fourth down, which in
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our day that was not how it was. If you
don't get it done by third down, you're punting, right,
You're punting. The same odds that existed back in our
day of playing do not exist now on those shorter
versions or manageable situations on fourth down. The book, the
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odds say go for it, and they are and that
push push, especially the way Philly runs it, it's tremendously effective.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
It also skews the stats in regards to the analytics,
right when you're looking at situations and you're saying it's
fourth and one, oh, go for it, you know, no
matter of the position on the field, because over seventy
percent of the time on average in the NFL, offenses
are going to convert. If you're Philly even more than that,
So that there's also an element of that too. I
think when you look at the data analytics and how
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you apply it. If you took that play away, it
would then change a lot of I think how teams
look at the fourth and one because the situation depending on
their position on the field, it.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Is a ridiculous looking play, like it's just ridiculous the whole,
like the there is no other And when Nick Sirianni says, oh, yeah,
it's first and nine because it's just an automatic, like
he knows, yeah, We're just we're gonna pick up that
first down like that, they can't.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I don't understand why you don't get like a Saquon
Barkley or a Derrick Henry, like start start recruiting like
big ass strong backs that take the ball from under
center and plow forward for three yards four yards.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I'll tell you who did it, and it works every time.
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
We did it with Tyler Warren, and we did it
out of even out of uh we even did it
out of a shotgun.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
And that style.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Of play will gain you at least three to four
yards every time you run it.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Every time you run it, let me throw this at it,
you guys.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Is it more likely the play would be banned this
summer if yeah, it beat Kansas City in the super Bow.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
If yes, that would that would get the that's.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
The that's the straw that broke the camel's back literally,
or even let's just say they they use it successfully.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Like five or six times.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, Or how about this, what if Kansas City does
exactly what Washington did and they keep trying to time
it up and jump over.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I could see a guy like Drew Tranquill.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Smart player, who would would try to do something similar,
try to time it up, jump over.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Which about the way they kept calling the Polo Malou play,
which was tremendously offensive. Now now mind you, by the way,
just just just to make it about me moment, it was.
It's tremendously offensive you because it's the play is named
after me, yeahed after me, like timing the snap and
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diving over.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
So that was what was offensive, Not because Paul mal
no No.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I love the fact that paulamlu did it, and Roy Williams,
I love.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
That they did it.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
But I'm saying the fact that Frankie Luvu, who it seemed.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Like it looked great the way he did it. It's
just the problem is is I.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Was making the case for the ethnic part of it.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Yeah, no, I like the comparison. I'm alright with Louvu too.
You know what's that mean?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You don't know about see you and a Cali guy.
See when you and Cali long enough? You know my
Samoan and Polynesian brothers. You know they hit you with that.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, that was always like when the defense checked Tampa
two they do that.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I thought that was this or that. Yeah, I hit
you like this. I hit you with the hands check,
hands check.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
But it don't say that banjo banjo.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I mean that could be banjo. It could be a banjo.
But on the inside, we we play.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
It, play it the play.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It is the wh when he starts to check. You
started to chat, then you go here, you go here,
you go here, you go to taba.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Then then you checked it again, the like reload, you'll
kill We're good, We're good.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Here's the thing that is, you're only going to do that.
By the way, if the team is close to the
goal line, you're.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Never going to see them.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
If they do leap over, they're not gonna be able
to be as aggressive trying to time a snap count
because it's not as punitive if you jump off side
right in that portion of the field. It is obviously
when it is if you're out in the field versus
being close to to your own goal.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
One.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
By the way I saw it, there was a prop
bet on like shortest rushing touchdown for the Eagles at
like minus one and a half. Why would you not
hammer the under on a on a toush push. Come
on now, I want you listen. I'm just I'm trying
to get people paid, is what I'm trying to generate.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah, it is. Everything comes back to that for you.
Damn you know. That's what you do. That's what you do.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
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What are the results for our picks against the spread?
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Now that we are here, do we have any NFL
theme music we could fire up for good?
Speaker 5 (35:41):
We already went over it, so I forgot to send
it the picks for.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
That one weekend, right, yes, yes, not good It's all right.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
You're busy.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
You're a busy guy. I get it.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
You know I have a cool stager.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
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Speaker 6 (36:00):
Are you bet?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Monsters?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Are are?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Are you?
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Are you joking? Lorena?
Speaker 7 (36:13):
No, Lee wanted me to have this, That is true.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
I did want her to have this. You have her
presented differently than that?
Speaker 9 (36:20):
Well right now, yeah, I mean nothing wrong with this.
This is this goes along with props.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
It does it does?
Speaker 9 (36:27):
We We did want to ask about picks against the spreads.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Very uh, it's very old. It's not very old. Million
dollar man, Ted Dva is very old.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
It's ever green green. Okay, okay, come on, let's go.
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
Well, if you're talking about the picks against the spread
Conference Championship weekend, we had the over unders as well
as the spreads for both games, Commanders Eagles, Jonas and Brady,
you guys had Philly correct.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
On that one.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
What do you mean, well, fifty five twenty three it
was the Eagles six point favorites.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
You guys really covered.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
And I did say that, No, you said Commander's money line, Damn.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Did I really?
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah? Yeah, Damn, Why did I do that?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
You got a whole Washington thing. I do too many
I do too many shows.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You got Louvo because I one hundred called it correctly
on the other show. But go ahead, God, I gotta
stop mixing up myself. I should have remixed them. But
go ahead, go ahead, Lee.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
Uh Well, the over under was forty seven and a half.
Everyone took the under on that. Eagles took care of
that by themselves. Okay, uh so nobody got that. Uh
Bill's at chiefs. Brady correctly took the Chiefs in that
one at point and a half and over under in
that game was forty eight and a half.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Jonas and Brady both dang over. You had the under?
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah when you went over?
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Uh So, Brady was three and one, Jonas two and two,
var one four. You lost your lead, buddy, Jonas jumping,
I quit.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Are you doing this based on percentage or the amount
of wins?
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Well, you know we got the Uh I'll just there's
that handler struck.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
No, it's the page the handler has struck. It was
always set. The deck has always been stacked to get
Jonas to where he is right. Jonas has now hear
me out Jonas.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
If it's percentage, I've got a shot because because I've
missed like three or four weeks of picks.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Oh, come on now, that's why I asked.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
You're c I know it.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I don't care if I won, if they if it were,
if it were that way, guys, it could be between
y'all two.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
I'm not making any more.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Brady, you're forty forty one and four, right, but we
would still have a chance.
Speaker 9 (38:39):
You're underfit. You're under fifty percent. Jonas is over fifty percent.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
I'm not. I'm not making. I don't have the percentage.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
If you want, he has the percentage, but he doesn't
have You can do this in our head. How what's
what's his fifty Okay, so it'd be tough.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
We have to create a lot of prop bets this week.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
And you're forty forty one.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Yeah, I'll quit.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Why man, I'm also I'm also missing.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
I'm out.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Why I'm out?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
I'm out?
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Speaker 1 (39:07):
Do you have a breathalyzer? Sir, sir, can you help me?
Can you come get him?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Please?
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Yes, you do have a breathalyzer.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you. Let's come over under can
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
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Speaker 1 (00:56):
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Speaker 5 (01:03):
This, I need this after the show.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
That's exactly what I need. Is the song I needed
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Speaker 1 (01:09):
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Speaker 6 (01:13):
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Speaker 6 (01:29):
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Speaker 1 (01:31):
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made me think about is fun times, good times. I
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I did start off with all that. I like the
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Speaker 6 (01:52):
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to Vampire and Brooklyn starring Jonas Knox.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
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Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know, tire RACKSHA put some money into you know,
Sakuon Barkley going into this game, you.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Know, ground Ground game, you know, tread on the Tire.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I think it's going to be a Saquon Barkley game,
but God thinks so, yeah, I do. Yeah, I'm the
closer we get to the game I mean, it's not
like this is a crazy revelation, but I'm just saying
I think it's going to be. He's going to be
the difference in this year's game, do you guys think?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And the only reason I bring this up is because
I feel like maybe the odds where that has always
already been.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Announced the MVP.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Oh efforting it was that Thursday Thursday this week, right.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
They air it?
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Oh, the who win MVP this year?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (03:10):
We saw them actually doing construction work at the place
they're having the NFL Honors show at. You would think
that would have gotten taken care of before this week,
but they are currently twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Trying ever we do.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
My point is like, you know, should we wait until
after the season, after the entirety of the season's done
to announce who the MVP is? And the only reason
I said that is the majority of the times we're
looking at the candidates as guys who if they're gonna win,
it have.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
To be a playoff team, which I think is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
That they're a playoff team.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I think it's ridiculous that you don't take the full
body of work into considerations.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Okay, yeah, because I think so.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Because that's what I'm saying is like, if Saquon does
go off, you look at his season in its entirety,
and yet Josh Allen's the MVP or whoever else besides Sake.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Or Lamar Jackson sitting at home.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Performance from one of the guys that are still in
the tournament is amazing, But it's just it falls on
deaf ears.
Speaker 8 (04:07):
I just I had like personally because they call me
every day, Jay, Yeah, every day, Jay.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Like, I've got a really hard time giving Saquon Barkley an.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
Award when he yeah, when he sat out when they
wanted him to play Week eighteen and he sat out.
I mean that disgusts me, to be honest with you.
But again, we won't put that on him. And again
I think that's how.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Does he do this to you? I don't try to
set the fire.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
Yeah, look, it feels like if he doesn't go off
of that game, they've got no shot.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Like that's really the that's really the I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Say that because I think if he I think if
Spags commits to a defensive scheme that limits what Saquon Barkley,
He's production will be in the game. Then all this,
all this is is an opportunity to shut down the
(05:08):
conversations connected to AJ Brown and what we've experienced this season,
which is he needed to have more of a role.
I honestly, the play calling will most likely and most
certainly adjust an adapt during the course of the game.
And if you're loading up the box, if you're doing
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things that are all about filling all of the gaps
where Sakwan would run, whether it be backside or front side,
and how you're trying to deal with this daunting task
of handling Philly's offensive front, then it's it's AJ Brown time.
I would say a dark horse for being the MVP
(05:50):
of the game would be AJ Brown because because it's
a setup for him to have a tremendously successful game.
So yeah, I mean that's Lee's like what what? Look
he's trying to get it.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
It's weird about right down over there.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
But he's on his computer looking like he's really busy.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He's on the Bevemo app. It's a hamster wheel of
on video. He's looking at a hamster.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
But yeah, I just I think that regardless of if
he gets one hundred plus yards in this game, which,
looking at his body of work so far, I think
it would be safe to say he's going to have
a tremendous impact yardage wise.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
But if he does not, it is stopping.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sakwon Barkley at the expense of trying to stop this
Philadelphia Eagles team in the air and that being probably
most likely you have to go man to man across
the board for the majority of this game. I do
not think that that bodes well for Kansas City defensively
(06:56):
if you have to cover uh Smith and and AJ
Brown man all man all game.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
AJ Brown's fifth favorite plus thirty five hundred see homes Barkley, Hurts,
Kelsey and.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Worthy go Lee, well wait, Xavier Worthy as better odds Yeah,
plus twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Where they use him, And they're probably looking at it
as this is going to be the team that wins,
So it makes sense all to put more Kansas City
Chiefs in the mix to win the award makes sense.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Now, there is also another aspect to all this. There
is the feeling from some people that the Kansas City
Chiefs are the benefactor of the officiating in the NFL.
Roger Goodell was asked about the feeling from fans and
people that watch the games that the Chiefs get all
the calls from the officials last night.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Here was his response.
Speaker 10 (07:53):
I think the men and women to officiate in the
NFL are outstanding. They have the highest possible standards. It's
ridiculous theory for anyone who might take it seriously, But
the end of the day, you know, it's something we
always have to continue to work on. How do we
make our officiating better at all times. And if you
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look at the Chiefs record, which I think is an
amazing thing. People talk about the competitives are league. The
Chiefs with their fifteen wins fifteen to two this year,
eleven of those fifteen games were within one score, and
I think that talks about the competitiveness of our game
and the importance of how we officiate it, but also
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the competitiveess of how we play it.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
Right, Let's say, we are always thank you Roger can
prepare to some stats there, Uh, you knew, but it
kind of knows.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
How uncompetitive this entire league has been this year.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
About say, and it kind of goes it kind of
flies in the opposite direction.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
And of his reasoning that he's giving. Right, if you're.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Sitting there and you feel a certain type of way
about how the calls are going in the favor and
the direction of the Kansas City Chiefs, wouldn't you want
that that point differential differential to be larger? Would I
would want it to be more than one score, because
if it's if it's one score, you know that's that's
(09:14):
separating you. Then you would say, Okay, if you don't
get those calls from the referees, there's probably the chance
that this team loses a percentage of those games that
they were able to win. I would assume that would
be the reasoning behind it. People could see that way.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I mean, by the way, Roger, you just had a
NFC championship game where Philly put up fifty five Pointsang,
all right, I don't know that we're gonna all of
a sudden start gloating about parody in the NFL turning
out you know, one state In regards to the Chiefs, I.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Mean, let's say you do you want to go for
the playoffs? In general?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I mean, how many games do we have that were
overly competitive? I mean probably the divisional round. I mean
Washington blew out Detroit. Yeah right, Kansis City. Kansas City
had a strong hold on that game. I mean it
was within technically is a two score game with the
text digits.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, they they It wasn't a competitive game. I mean,
Baltimore Philly was the best game. That was a great game.
Baltimore phil was a great game. It was a great game.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Wild Card Rown we want to go there.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I mean, it's like the only one that was close
was Tampa and Washington. The rest of all blowouts. I mean,
let's not talk about you know, parody. No, hell, it's
not even close.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Roger is like he talks like a preacher, and you
know what he sounded like, wh.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
R f K Junior.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
It was a little r f K Junior is like
the way his voice sounds. Just play it one more time,
Play it one more time. If we could re Ray,
there's a little bit of that, like raspiness to it,
the way he talks.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
There's some differences, but yeah, I mean, like definitely it will.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Be the biggest difference. I don't know, Bad News bears raylive.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Roger he went there.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, the lab have met, and uh, you know, are
we on the air?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Can you here?
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Are we on the.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Oh gosh, there she is.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
All right, Laura, do what we heard you, But we
didn't hear the sound. We hear the Roger Roger Goodell again.
Of course.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Yes, I think the men and women to officiate in
the NFL or outstanding, they have the highest possible standards.
It's ridiculous theory for anyone who might take it seriously.
But the end of the day, uh, you know, it's something.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
We have to continue to work on.
Speaker 10 (11:22):
How do we make our officiating and Jack look at the.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Just you know, voice fluctuations a little different, but you know,
but I get it.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
No, I see what you were what you were getting at.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that might touch a little bit of
Bill Clinton too. That might give it a go, give
it another go, It might touch a little bit. Did
not have sexual relations with that?
Speaker 10 (11:53):
Given of the men and women to officiate in the
NFL or outstanding, they have the high as possible standardslous Yeah, right, yeah, touch.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Out sexual relations for that woman.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Man, I never told anybody to lie.
Speaker 10 (12:13):
It kind of has kind of kind of men and
women to officiate in the NFL or what.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Going back in that what year was that was that
like ninety's a while ago.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I'm trying to think because I remember, for the longest time,
for an entire decade, Lewinsky was the name that was
given to well, we all know.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Ninety five ninety five. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
To you, but his comments were actually ninety eight okay,
but the relations.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Started into ninety five.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I just remember thinking to myself, like everyone, there was
a lot of people who just wanted to be like.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Just be honest, dude, just to be honest.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Exactly what happened. Oh, I mean we adapted adopted it. Voleownski.
Did you get good Lewinsky or did you get bad? Yeah,
there's a lot of you know, just that your reputation
was was was linked to how good of a Lewinsky
(13:20):
you were in your life. That is Monica, that is
yeah Lewski.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
That is a great point.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
That being said, that being said the whole look, Roger
Goodell could have just stopped by saying this, anybody that
thinks that the officials are siding with the chiefs over
other teams, it's ridiculous. Could have just stopped that, the
stats everything else, because it is ridiculous. They're just better
than everybody else and they win these games, just like
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the Patriots were, and.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
The better teams tend to be less penalized, not because
there's favoritism necessarily, it's more because they tend to know
how not or they don't need to break rules.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I mean, I'll put it this way.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Two of the fastest players in the NFL happen to
play wide receiver for the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
The guy who's run the fastest forty yard dash.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
We've ever seen in Xavier Worthy, and then Hollywood Brown,
who I would put him up there, right there with
the fat and the next fastest guy, Cheetah, whoever.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
You want in the league.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
So is there gonna be more holding?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Of course, Like you guys are trying to slow them
down and get hands on them, there's.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Gonna be more DEPI there's gonna be more holding.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Like they put you in situations where that's gonna happen.
Travis Kelcey just always finds a way to get separation
and wiggle and get open.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
It's like you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Hold them more.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
There's gonna be more dep I like those guys will
get more of the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
So I just I will say I do think that
the Mahomes flop does that was about it's a bad look, man,
that's a bad because that you're you're acknowledging when when
he did that, you did something that that you you undressed,
you you pull back the curtain on possibly what people
(15:02):
are suspecting or thinking really exists.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Like but when you basically.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Gave everybody the information and knowledge of you're aware that
you're getting these types of calls.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
So it was right after they called the hit to
the head, which was two Texans defenders hitting each other
and they which was totally Here's why I don't blame
Mahomes because he's probably thinking to himself, well, if they
missed that one, why don't I try and get another one,
like it's an extra fifteen.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I think it goes even further than that.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I just think that there's an understanding that he's protected well,
and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I would say this though, I think most quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Feel the same way. They feel the same way, and.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
They would try to do the same thing. Yes, you know,
like they.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Would try to, but most quarterbacks aren't in the same
situation as Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
How many times do we see Lineman or other.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
People flop flop like you yeah, yeah, of course, I
just I.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
Just for me and that Thrushers nowadays will throw it
like when they're yeah yeah, did to try and get
a call to get a hold.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And they get them and generally a defender when when
you're trying to pull away in an offensive linement it's
still holding, you throw your arms up like they generally
get the call.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
And why do they do that?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
DOT know why? Because that is what the officials are
taught to look. Yes, So when I talk about how
New England used to ask questions, they will say, like,
for example, like remember how we talk about this is
kind of more of a college thing, but they talk
about targeting, but now they even for a personal foul
with the use of the crown of the helmet and
so forth. They're talking about launching, they talk about different angles.
(16:38):
They're looking for specific yes. So in this case, what
Varre saying is they're looking for the reaction of the player.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
That's that's sometimes how they're taught.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
And it's moving so so like people don't realize how
fast that s is moving on the field. If you're
watching it from the stands or even on TV, you
can see things when you're up on it on the
you have to look for those things because it's moving
so fed so if I see this, the flag is
coming out.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
That's why I think, and this is probably not popular opinion,
I think the officials do a remarkable job considering the
speed of the game, Like they get ninety five at
least percent of the calls right at least.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
What's unfortunate is we at home have the ability to
slow things down and look at that. I'm almost framed
by frame if through slow mode. I think that's that's
one of the reasons why to your point, they've done
a tremendous job. But we're also venturing into an era
where they should look at reofficiating the plays when they're
(17:38):
reviewed because of this speed of it, like LeVar is
talking about, and because we have this tool now to
get it right, no different than the way pitchings looked
at in Major League Baseball or some of the other
instruments we've seen in other sports like tennis, for example.
We've got the ability to do it, so why not
and then why not just completely reofficiating disregard whatever the
(17:58):
call was on the field. I know official hate probably
hearing that because they like having that power to say, like,
oh my call still matters. It does for ninety eight
percent of the game, but the those two percent you review,
they might.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
They're really important calls. There is the reason why we're
reviewing that.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Like Troy Aikman made the point on the SI Media
podcast where he said, you know, the NFL owes it
to the fans with all this money being coming from
gambling sites to get these calls.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
Right, And it's like I get, like, I totally understand.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
That you got to take those things in the consideration.
I'm sorry it becomes a part of your game.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
But also, like you know the Chiefs Texans game that
was a bad beat. That wasn't a bad beat so
much because of the officials. That was a bad beat
because Matta Rizer ran out of the end zone and
took an intentional safety. That's why people got screwed in that. Sure,
Like you can go through every game and find a
miscall or whatever, take some accountability. You lost the game
(18:49):
because it was a bad pick. All right, That's what
I do. All Right, I'm a man who takes accountability
for things, and if I make a bad pick, it's
my fault, not the official's fault. They do a remarkable
job with what they're giving each and every week, and
I think they should be supported more often.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, I feel like we have.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
In there reviewed picks against the Spread in a bit,
which I mean I still didn't under like LaVar was
ahead of you even though you.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Lee wasn't giving him credit.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I mean, Lee's over there putting his one finger up.
He's done at least three times. It's the first time
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So the the tush push or the what else think
of the brotherly shove, brotherly so whatever other goofy nerdy
nickname that that plays.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I could have replaced the Lewinsky real damn you know,
Bill Clinton could have adopted that you know who's not
a was not related to the brotherly shove.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I did not commit it him.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
You know, he's not a fan of the toush push.
Packer's president Mark Murphy, who I think is retiring soon
if I'm not mistaken. He was in his latest Q
and A session, which, by the way, I'm really going
to miss his Q and A sessions because he doesn't
realize how brutally honest he's being at times, and he
was asked about the play the tush push, and he
said the following quote, I'm not a fan of this play.
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There is no skill involved and it is almost an
automatic first down on plays of a yard or less.
The series of plays with the Commanders jumping off sides
in the NFC title game to try to stop the
play was ridiculous. The referee even threatened to give the
Eagles an automatic touchdown with the Commanders did not stop it.
I would like to see the league prohibit pushing or
aiding the runner on this play. There used to be
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a rule prohibiting this, but it is no longer enforced
because I believe it was thought to be too hard
for the officials to see. The play is bad for
the game, and we should go back to prohibiting this push.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Play of this push of the runner.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
This would bring back the traditional quarterback sneak that worked
pretty well for Bart Starr and the Packers in the
Ice Bowl. End quote from Mark Murphy of the Packers.
Wait to take a stand. Mark, what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Let's just go back and do everything the way it
used to be done when bart Starr was there.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
You bet your ass do that my truck would be
new again and the hit slash icicle MP.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
So I was curious when I read the quotes from
Mark Murphy, and I reached out to Dean Blandino, and
Dean said, officials never called it, so they took it
out of the rule books, you know, probably in the
late nineties or something like that, which and then I
kind of followed up because I was like, what, it
was a rule for a long time in college. I mean,
(24:16):
you go back to like the bush push game and
all that it was illegal. But to Mark Murphy's point,
the frustration from the officials is they never felt like
they could accurately officiate it in a game, going back
to the speed of the game and how hard is
to see everything.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
So that's what they took it out.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
The hard thing about this is obviously from a formation standpoint,
the way they Philly in particular lines up is legal,
but the play in and of itself doesn't look like
anything else that we see in the game of football.
And on top of that, we did, if you're just
taking saying from a true competition standpoint, we did change
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the field goal or the point after attempt, excuse me,
the point after attempt, moving it back because we thought
that was a non competitive play. Kickers were making it
a too high of clips. So it's just kind of
like a hu hum play. Okay, on fourth and one.
Look at the stats. It's not just affiliates. Every single
team look at the stats on fourth and one of
the conversion rate when they use that specific play. And
so I look at that, and I go, if it's
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a non competitive play in over seventy or seventy five
percent on fourth and one.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
There's a conversion rate.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
You've got to look at it from a competitive standpoint.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And then if you look at it from a player.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Safety standpoint, you just can't tell me the way that
play is ran on either side of the ball, especially
with what Washington was doing, that this is a safe play.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
For teams in the NFL. It's just not.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I just find it to be a tab bit curious
how it's become so commonplace to allow other players to push,
even not in just the push push scenario, just the
idea of being able to grab your teammate and drag
them and push them further in the play. And and
(26:01):
by the way, listening to the color call, you know
the commentators like, oh my gosh, look at the strength
of his legs. Look at that leg dry he's just
powering his way through.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
No, he's squatch five point fifty for reps of ten.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
How much does that lineman squat that's pushing him, or
those two linemen that are pushing him through, the defenders
that are hitting him.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
It just it that to me is what's egregious and
all of this.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
The dragon point.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
At what point did it become okay to push them
and drag them the way like he's not.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
All he has to do is just hold the ball.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Just hold the ball, bro and they.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Cause you got teammates, you got teammates that are going
to do to work for you.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Just hold that ball.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Like I don't. I don't like it personally, I don't
like it. I don't like the fact that it's glorified
because it takes away from to me what what the
duty is of the person that's carrying.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
The ball is supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
But with that being said, it now makes first down
has always been a super important down. Obviously you want
to win first down, but now knowing that you are
allowed to push and aid and assist players in the
manner that you are, especially in the formation of a
toush push where you're basically creating a scrum. You're basically
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creating a scrum and one side doesn't know, like the
ball isn't.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Neutral, right, It's not neutral.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
The ball belongs to one side, so there's not a
there is a tremendously competitive edge to the offensive side
of the ball because the ball.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Is not neutral, meaning.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Both sides are not allowed to get gain possession of
the ball. So in a toush push situation, you can
do exactly what Philadelphia did, which is draw the defense
off sides, because if they don't, if there is not
a legitimate anticipation of the snap count as a defense,
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you most likely will not win the rep in a
one one yard piece of of of space on the field.
So to me, it creates an unbalanced and an uneven competitive,
you know, situation scenario on the football field. But again
(28:36):
with that being said, first down now becomes important because
the second and third down now becomes a down where
I'm I'm not looking to get the first down on
third I'm actually making sure that I'm continuing to manage
how far away we are by fourth down, which in
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our day that was not how it was. If you
don't get it done by third down, you're punting, right,
You're punting. The same odds that existed back in our
day of playing do not exist now on those shorter
versions or manageable situations on fourth down. The book, the
(29:19):
odds say go for it, and they are and that
push push, especially the way Philly runs it, it's tremendously effective.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
It also skews the stats in regards to the analytics,
right when you're looking at situations and you're saying it's
fourth and one, oh, go for it, you know, no
matter of the position on the field, because over seventy
percent of the time on average in the NFL, offenses
are going to convert. If you're Philly even more than that,
So that there's also an element of that too. I
think when you look at the data analytics and how
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you apply it. If you took that play away, it
would then change a lot of I think how teams
look at the fourth and one because the situation depending on
their position on the field, it.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Is a ridiculous looking play, like it's just ridiculous the whole,
like the there is no other And when Nick Sirianni says, oh, yeah,
it's first and nine because it's just an automatic, like
he knows, yeah, We're just we're gonna pick up that
first down like that, they can't.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I don't understand why you don't get like a Saquon
Barkley or a Derrick Henry, like start start recruiting like
big ass strong backs that take the ball from under
center and plow forward for three yards four yards.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I'll tell you who did it, and it works every time.
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
We did it with Tyler Warren, and we did it
out of even out of uh we even did it
out of a shotgun.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
And that style.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Of play will gain you at least three to four
yards every time you run it.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Every time you run it, let me throw this at it,
you guys.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Is it more likely the play would be banned this
summer if yeah, it beat Kansas City in the super Bow.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
If yes, that would that would get the that's.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
The that's the straw that broke the camel's back literally,
or even let's just say they they use it successfully.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Like five or six times.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, Or how about this, what if Kansas City does
exactly what Washington did and they keep trying to time
it up and jump over.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I could see a guy like Drew Tranquill.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Smart player, who would would try to do something similar,
try to time it up, jump over.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Which about the way they kept calling the Polo Malou play,
which was tremendously offensive. Now now mind you, by the way,
just just just to make it about me moment, it was.
It's tremendously offensive you because it's the play is named
after me, yeahed after me, like timing the snap and
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diving over.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
So that was what was offensive, Not because Paul mal
no No.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I love the fact that paulamlu did it, and Roy Williams,
I love.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
That they did it.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
But I'm saying the fact that Frankie Luvu, who it seemed.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Like it looked great the way he did it. It's
just the problem is is I.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Was making the case for the ethnic part of it.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Yeah, no, I like the comparison. I'm alright with Louvu too.
You know what's that mean?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You don't know about see you and a Cali guy.
See when you and Cali long enough? You know my
Samoan and Polynesian brothers. You know they hit you with that.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, that was always like when the defense checked Tampa
two they do that.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I thought that was this or that. Yeah, I hit
you like this. I hit you with the hands check,
hands check.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
But it don't say that banjo banjo.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I mean that could be banjo. It could be a banjo.
But on the inside, we we play.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
It, play it the play.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It is the wh when he starts to check. You
started to chat, then you go here, you go here,
you go here, you go to taba.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Then then you checked it again, the like reload, you'll
kill We're good, We're good.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Here's the thing that is, you're only going to do that.
By the way, if the team is close to the
goal line, you're.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Never going to see them.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
If they do leap over, they're not gonna be able
to be as aggressive trying to time a snap count
because it's not as punitive if you jump off side
right in that portion of the field. It is obviously
when it is if you're out in the field versus
being close to to your own goal.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
One.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
By the way I saw it, there was a prop
bet on like shortest rushing touchdown for the Eagles at
like minus one and a half. Why would you not
hammer the under on a on a toush push. Come
on now, I want you listen. I'm just I'm trying
to get people paid, is what I'm trying to generate.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah, it is. Everything comes back to that for you.
Damn you know. That's what you do. That's what you do.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Here you got it is two pros and a cup
of Joe.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
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We are going to take a look at some Super
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Speaker 7 (34:52):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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What are the results for our picks against the spread?
(35:36):
Now that we are here, do we have any NFL
theme music we could fire up for good?
Speaker 5 (35:41):
We already went over it, so I forgot to send
it the picks for.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
That one weekend, right, yes, yes, not good It's all right.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
You're busy.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
You're a busy guy. I get it.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
You know I have a cool stager.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
Sure, yeah, yeah, here to featu your degenerate gambling soul.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Are you bet?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Monsters?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Are are?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Are you?
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Are you joking? Lorena?
Speaker 7 (36:13):
No, Lee wanted me to have this, That is true.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
I did want her to have this. You have her
presented differently than that?
Speaker 9 (36:20):
Well right now, yeah, I mean nothing wrong with this.
This is this goes along with props.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
It does it does?
Speaker 9 (36:27):
We We did want to ask about picks against the spreads.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Very uh, it's very old. It's not very old. Million
dollar man, Ted Dva is very old.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
It's ever green green. Okay, okay, come on, let's go.
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
Well, if you're talking about the picks against the spread
Conference Championship weekend, we had the over unders as well
as the spreads for both games, Commanders Eagles, Jonas and Brady,
you guys had Philly correct.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
On that one.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
What do you mean, well, fifty five twenty three it
was the Eagles six point favorites.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
You guys really covered.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
And I did say that, No, you said Commander's money line, Damn.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Did I really?
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah? Yeah, Damn, Why did I do that?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
You got a whole Washington thing. I do too many
I do too many shows.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You got Louvo because I one hundred called it correctly
on the other show. But go ahead, God, I gotta
stop mixing up myself. I should have remixed them. But
go ahead, go ahead, Lee.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
Uh Well, the over under was forty seven and a half.
Everyone took the under on that. Eagles took care of
that by themselves. Okay, uh so nobody got that. Uh
Bill's at chiefs. Brady correctly took the Chiefs in that
one at point and a half and over under in
that game was forty eight and a half.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Jonas and Brady both dang over. You had the under?
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah when you went over?
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Uh So, Brady was three and one, Jonas two and two,
var one four. You lost your lead, buddy, Jonas jumping,
I quit.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Are you doing this based on percentage or the amount
of wins?
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Well, you know we got the Uh I'll just there's
that handler struck.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
No, it's the page the handler has struck. It was
always set. The deck has always been stacked to get
Jonas to where he is right. Jonas has now hear
me out Jonas.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
If it's percentage, I've got a shot because because I've
missed like three or four weeks of picks.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Oh, come on now, that's why I asked.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
You're c I know it.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I don't care if I won, if they if it were,
if it were that way, guys, it could be between
y'all two.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
I'm not making any more.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Brady, you're forty forty one and four, right, but we
would still have a chance.
Speaker 9 (38:39):
You're underfit. You're under fifty percent. Jonas is over fifty percent.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
I'm not. I'm not making. I don't have the percentage.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
If you want, he has the percentage, but he doesn't
have You can do this in our head. How what's
what's his fifty Okay, so it'd be tough.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
We have to create a lot of prop bets this week.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
And you're forty forty one.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Yeah, I'll quit.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Why man, I'm also I'm also missing.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
I'm out.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Why I'm out?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
I'm out?
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Sir?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Do you have a breathalyzer? Sir, sir, can you help me?
Can you come get him?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Please?
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Yes, you do have a breathalyzer.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you. Let's come over under can
we him? Get him
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