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February 5, 2025 39 mins

The guys are joined live on Radio Row at Super Bowl 59 by former All-Pro defensive tackle Gerald McCoy to talk about the big game, his feelings on the Pro Bowl, the Tush Push, and more. Also, can Jalen Hurts be considered an elite QB? 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
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you and Rich Oh, I don't care. Do you ever
notice like you guys have similar facial hair, similar jaw structure.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
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Speaker 4 (01:09):
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Rich here, and I was like, they look very kind
of similar.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
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know Coveno and Rich.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Oh okay, yeah, but.

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Speaker 5 (01:25):
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the football? You like the other one better?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
That's not a real NFL football. It's it's a little tackier.
So it's like a you know, it's one you'd get
to sign. It's actually better to sign those phutographs or
just like for kids to mess around one.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, but the.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Real one yesterday you had the football. That's that's the
real one.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Was the one? Where is that at?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
It's well, we barred it from something, wed it, we
gave it back, We gave it back. Okay. Lee had
a couple of nice catches in between some of these
these radio sets, did he I'm gonna feel bad if
we ace one of these these sets though, because I
was watching three nice young ladies put up a tent

(02:27):
over there. It took them about forty five minutes. Yeah,
so if we knock one of those bad boys down.
I'm gonna feel really bad. We can't fix it.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
We saw them, we were walking out yesterday. That's right,
if you saw them, right, I ain't see anything.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
By the way, do you think you could hit that
bounty sign with that football?

Speaker 7 (02:44):
From here?

Speaker 5 (02:45):
You think that's that's doable?

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Like the top portion hit it?

Speaker 7 (02:50):
Sad?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
The damon?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Where's the diamond?

Speaker 7 (02:52):
Oh? That?

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah? I like to try. Yeah, that'd be interesting fun.
The hard thing is when you don't have the yard markers.
It's like all I to get a sense for how
far it is. So you probably need like one throw
to see the distance, and then from there you start
to you know, hone in on it.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
That's all the way more than what do you think
sixty yards? Me, that's more than sixty yards.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I don't think it is. I think it's close than
you think. Actually, I bet that's like maybe fifty Now
to your point, if you're hitting up high, that's obviously
he has to be a six yard throw. But yeah,
I mean, dude, this is like a playground for me.
I love this, like throwing in between breaks with lee,
like just it's the best. I can't went to my
boys get big enough to do it. It's like my

(03:39):
girls try a little bit, but already, like my son
who's almost two, has better hand eye coordination than the girls.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
It's it's ridiculous, like watching him move a soccer ball.
Oh my god, maybe he should play soccer already.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
How how how far apart are they? They're not that
eight six four too?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I mean the boys Uh well yeah, I mean they're
Irish twins, right.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Not quite, not quite like twenty three months.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
They're both in two months. They're both in diapers.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Oh yeah, I wish. By the way, how did you
boys three?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, so that that's an interesting one because when he
got when they got to the point of where they
had pull ups on, you know, trist started making them
walk around naked.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah the bottom How was Andrew is he.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
I mean hit or miss it anyway?

Speaker 6 (04:34):
No, he's, uh, we're past that stage, but he's still.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
He's not totally comfortable with it, like it's just using
the restroom.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
Well yeah, just kind of.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
It doesn't number one or number two both both.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's just it's just kind of you know, you gotta
get to a point, like buddy, you gotta get to
a point where you get.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Uncomfortable with putting that you just on yourself like that,
like you just take it, like you take the diaper
off and be like.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
All right, either do it on the floor, got to go,
And that's helped.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Like that's you know.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I was just thinking it'd be that that potty training
your child. It would be the worst time in the
world to get a puppy because that that kid is
gonna look at the puppy.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
And things supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Everywhere.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
I will say this that throwing the ball with your
son is literally my favorite thing.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
It is so because he thinks he's got a little
Daniel Monte.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
He does keep saying no, I don't.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
I don't care you do say it? What Like I
it's more enjoyable for me than I think it is
for him.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Like you need to have another kid, because then you
can compare that kid to the other in your mind
and you get a sense for where they're at.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
I mean, but sometimes when you do it right the
first time, maybe you don't want to go down that
road again.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
You know why we ruin a perfect game.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I could dig it, you know, so you when I
have two perfect games.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
I questioned the ability to have another perfect game.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
That means you're questioning that luck.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Like that, like what you're saying, like knowing my luck.
The next one is going to be like, uh, you know,
convicted for arm robbery when he's six like that.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
That's that's the way that would go.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
So I feel like I'm saving people from that mess.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
But well, you know we are.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
We are venturing down that road across that bridge when
we get to it. But it is uh, it is
a good time. It is a good time having you know,
throwing the ball around with the kid.

Speaker 7 (06:26):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
Jalen Hurts is now throwing the ball around for the Eagles,
and apparently he's going to be doing it for with
another offensive coordinator. Well, the worst kept secret is that
Kellen Moore is going to be the next head coach
of the New Orleans Saints. So maybe he'll just stick
around in town and then, uh, you know, just hire
a moving company to bring his stuff over.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Can I ask you guys a question, of course, if
Jalen Hurts wins this game, could it be considered he's
maybe quietly or sneakily, like like a guy that you
have to look at in a way.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
I don't want to go, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Go as far as Patrick Mahomes, not not even closed you.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Call my top tier quarterback though, But this is his
second Super Bowl, Yeah, and he played phenomenal in the first.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And he outplayed Patrick Mahomes. And that's who I was.
I was watching it yesterday and I was like, man,
I was, it's going it's gotta be a daunting task
to beat the quarterback the other quarterback. But for some reason,
I smound myself thinking Jalen Hurts is probably just as
confident in going into this game as Patrick Mahomes is.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
And I'll say, what like the mindset when you're taking
on a Patrick Mahomes, Like, the reality is you can't.
You're not playing Patrick. You're not playing not playing him,
You're playing the Chief Stevens. You're playing Steve Specknol. And
I think the biggest thing for Jalen is he just
has to focus on a play to play and like
find that rhythm. But for so many quarterbacks, I think,
especially young quarterbacks in the league now, if you looked

(07:59):
at their evolution and how they got in college in
the NFL, what were they excelled? They get into a
rhythm like you see them in games, get into a rhythm.
Sometimes it helps be in up tempo somethings that helps
be in a shotgun. We feel like you're a point guard.
But very early on, if you get a quarterback who
gets into a rhythm, and I thought Hurts did that
in the first Super Bowl when these two played each other,

(08:20):
you were like, dang, okay, he's got that confidence. And
but you don't really as a quarterback, you don't really
feel it until you get into the game and start
making the throws. You could be confident, say like, man,
I feel good in pregame, I'm hitting everything I want.
I've got my stuff today. But until you get into
that game you start seeing it something happen. Pressure too,
But it's not even the pressure, it's just like the energy,

(08:41):
Like there could be nerves, it could be anxiousness, could
be whatever. And once you get into the game though,
and then you start dealing, then you're like all right,
like like I've got my flow and you just go.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
But I was always scared to death before the first hit,
Like when we do the coin toss, I'd be like.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Please please be receiving, because.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I'm wanted as much time to not go out there
and start the game. It really I'd be nervous as
hell really until the first hit, and I'd be on
the sideline, like I'd be biting my fingers off.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
I'd be on sideline.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
That's like Fighters, right, Oh gosh, that's like Fighters. They
always liked that.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
First terrified.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Then I get out there, and then then it's like
like all kinds of and then it's like I start
hearing the snapcount.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
I'm like, oh god, all right, here we go. Here
we go, here we go. And once they snap it
and you start moving, it's like here we go. Yeah,
here we go. I don't know, it's like a game
within the game.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Then George Saint Pierre is like one of the greatest
UFC fighters of all time. He's known and he's spoken
publicly about this. He hated every single fight, didn't want
to go, was trying to find every reason not to fight. Terrified.
This is one of the like the best fighters of
all time pound ever. And the second he started walking
out and got in there, okay, like that's where he

(09:56):
but it was like the build up was so much
in his mind because it's a train in camp. It's
all that, and then you're in the locker room and
like you're putting your your life on the line, basically,
like someone's trying to maim you and take everything from you.
And then once he gets out there, he figures it out.
And any smell.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Insults help with that too, you think, So, yeah, smell
insults every once in a while, like really like, ah, well,
that's that's right there, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
You like your pregame music was probably intense, right it was.
So it was, and I don't know if a lot
of other quarterbacks feel that way, but it was the
exact opposite, Like you had to really calm yourself down,
and you had to because you got to operate out
there at times like a picture. But the difference is
is like you really don't get to dictate the tempo
because there's so many variables that dictate it to you.

(10:45):
There's a play clock, there's the rush, there's the timing
of the play, and there's that what happens while the
play is going on. So there's so many things that
are out of your control that you have to try
to find that like calm.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Mediums to soundtracks because I really thought I was like
a samurai, Like I would listen to from Okinawa, a
samurai from that learned my art form from ok.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
Now, hey, how good was that Game of Throne song?

Speaker 5 (11:13):
I sent you?

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Good?

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Good? I like Game of Thrones. I like I get
you fired the Dragon Blood of the Dragon. I was
not too old for Gladiator I had. I would play Gladiator.
Gladiator was two thousands.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
Yeah I was.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I would play Gladiator. I play Rocky, I play you
know one surprisingly, I played uh the score from Armageddon
when we would be driving up to the stadium. I
play Armageddon because I'd be looking at the people like
we were driving to like in the movie with Bruce
Willis with Ben a Flat and Bruce Willis.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah, you were listening to that awful Aerosmith song.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
That's a good that's a good song. But listen to
the other one, all right.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
The reason while we're talking about Jaalen Hurnts, by the way,
is really the fact that what you said he's gonna
be playing, he's gonna have so to your point, if
he plays well, wins this. I don't think people understand
what he's.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
Been able to.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, right, it's kind of been, but but this is
the issue. He's gonna have his fourth offensive coordinator four years.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Wow about that.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
You go back a few years ago, right, Shane Steichen,
that's that was his OC, and then it was Johnson right,
who then got basically fired. They moved on to bringing Kellimore,
who to your point, it's it's no secrets, gonna give
you the head coach the Saints, so they're I have
to find another OC. So two of the three that
he's had so far have moved on to head coaches.
One got fired or you know however you wanted to

(12:42):
describe that, and then we don't know what's gonna hapen
to the next one. But in three years having three
o c's, I can't understate as a quarterback how difficult
that is. Because even though it's the same system and
it's not gonna be the same each year, every OC
might come in tweak, some things, call something different, do
something different. So from your actual playbook of what you have,

(13:06):
if that's going to change somewhat. But it's more about
like this guy's personality. You know, there are some coordinators
where you could make mistakes and when they you know,
when they're like you make a mistake in the coach,
like no, I believe in you. I believe in you are,
It's like, well, you took me off the field than
that next opportunity that came. There's some ocs where like
you throw a pick, the next series, you know what

(13:27):
they do the first two plays run and you're like,
all right, well, if you believe in me, let me
go back out there and keep slinging it. So their
their play calling and their actions speak oftentimes louder than
what they actually say, and that's how you can kind
of diagnose them. But you even know, like, hey, I
hit a big play. Is this guy aggressive? Does he

(13:47):
put his foot on the gas or we stand no huddle,
get up the line, running a play, taking a shot?
Or is he the type that just kind of stays
within the offense or we backed up. You know, there's
all these different situations that present themselves and you're trying
to sometimes figure out, you know, what's the identity of
this guy because oftentimes as young player to callers, I mean,
Kellimore has done it now where he knows what he wants,

(14:07):
what he's trying to get, But young play callers they're
still trying to figure out their identity. They're trying to
figure out like how do I call how I call
a game, How am I going to change throughout the
course of the season. How am I going to get
the ball of these different playmakers. So he's had to
deal with that adjustment. And again, I can't you know
overstate enough how difficult that is for a quarterback to

(14:29):
have to start again that relationship. It stinks. Man. When
you look at the guys who've had a ton of success,
there's continuity and the guy who's there with them. I mean,
think about Mahomes and Andy ree It's like part of
it's not the OC who's calling the places, it's Andy Reid.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
I wonder if he part of him is maybe almost
not built for it, but accustomed to it because of
transferred out of Alabama, went to Oklahoma and.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
He ain't change the OC is why it was at
Bama anyway.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
And he gets to Philly, they fired the head coach
after the first year, there's all that drama with Carson Wentz,
and then he's dealt with, you know, Sirianni, the coordinators,
all that stuff that's happened.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
So you can always in this spot.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
You can always you can always look at it as
how much better could he have been? Though, because there's
nothing like having stability. It's almost like saying, a kid
that grows up in a home where there's you know,
a parent in and out of person, that's a parental
figure that's in and out of the house during the

(15:32):
course of their time and development growing up could still
be successful in life.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Of course, they could still be successful in life.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
But you know, with that being said, oh, people are
so mean, man, Oh really are. But you know, they
could be easily talking about they could easily be talking
about Jalen Hurts though.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Like that's what I'm saying to me.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I feel like, if Jalen wins this game, if Jalen
wins this game, if the Eagles win this game, you
got to talk about Jalen in elite fashion, even if
he doesn't have the most uh, even if he doesn't score.
You know.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
So all right, so here's why we're laughing. Uh. There's
a a Twitter account called today in Sports that is
promoting a new cologne from Dak Prescott. It's called Dak
Prescott Cologne for those nights when you don't want to score.
In the name of the colone is I T signature

(16:36):
that is that is savage. People are ruthless that it's.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Savage, savage nights when you don't want to score. I
n T by Dak best up.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I think it's a tremendous feat because I didn't even
realize that he had that many O c's. You know,
I had more head code, which is than I did
years in the league at one point.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
I had I had with you, I had three my
my Pro Bowl years.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I had a different defensive coordinator every single year.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
And how hard is that?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's hard, man, It's hard, And I'm gonna tell you
why it's hard. It's hard because once you develop the
continuity of in the relationship between the play caller and
you as the.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Player, you're like.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Your your your vision, your your way of seeing things,
your way of approaching things is so much it's so different.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
It's so different.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Like I can give you feedback learning it, but my
feedback once I've learned it is much different than the
feedback that I'm giving while I'm trying to figure out
what what your scheme is.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
And then when you play faster, you can anticipate, you
don't have to think as much you can and that
so think about it.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
If I'm thinking more, I'm not as good as I
could possibly be if I'm thinking more, and so the
fact that he's been able to overcome that and they've
been able to still have that level of success where
they're making it this far in the season. I mean, man, like,
imagine if you give them a guy for more than
one year, what could this Eagles team really be?

Speaker 6 (18:21):
It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, and coming up next, we got
an all pros stopping by. We see him right around
the corner here. His name is Gerald McCoy. Stick around.
He's yours next here on FSR.

Speaker 8 (18:33):
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Speaker 6 (18:47):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
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from now, we are going to dive back into our
prop bets for Super Bowl fifty nine. Ers who get
you set for the game here live from New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
It is Radio Row.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
It's Super Bowl week here on this Wednesday. But right
now we've got an all pro joining us. He is
Gerald McCoy. He is the co host of the McCoy
and Van noy on Yahoo Sports podcast. By the way,
I do want to mention this as well too. I'm
noticing the six Pro Bowls. Gerald, Thanks for joining us.
Do those feel a little bit more sentimental seeing what

(19:26):
they've done to the Pro Bowl? Now we are having
this conversation.

Speaker 9 (19:29):
It's crazy you brought it up. I just had that
conversation with somebody and I said, the Pro Bowl is
a Pro Bowl.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
One.

Speaker 9 (19:36):
I take pride in the fact that I was never
an alternate. I was always voted in first. Always that matters,
always matters well at the I wanttarybody this. If you
make the Pro Bowl, congratulations, But the ones who get
voted in immediately we take pride in matters in all
six of mine. I was voted in. I wasn't an
alternate to one, I take pride in it. But two,

(19:57):
when you grew up watching this game and they say
Pro Bowl, there's one word that pops in your head
after that, Hawaii.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:05):
So when they took it out of Hawaii.

Speaker 9 (20:07):
Everything changed. The first year in Orlando, it was great.
We had free VIP tours to Disney. That's great for family.
They rented out Universal Studios, incredible.

Speaker 7 (20:19):
But then after that, you're just in Orlando.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, you know it went nowhere?

Speaker 9 (20:24):
Yeah, and then now how it is they're trying to
change it up and stuff. So but I grew up
and had an opportunity to experience the pro bo how
most historians seemed the supposed to be in Hawaii.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Man, So yeah, I asked LeVar this because you know,
he went a few times, and do you feel like
now watching the alternates and kind of who goes and
some of it just go, it's almost takes away from
what we accomplished, because like I hear, I hear you
sitting here saying that, almost like you have to defend now, like, hey,
that was a different time, that was different era of

(21:00):
the Pro Bowl because I never made one, but looking
at it, that's how I see it. I'm like, well,
come on, man, some of the people were putting that
now it's just not the same as what it used
to be.

Speaker 9 (21:08):
Yeah, I just feel like, if you're going to be
an optinate be like, really next up, like guy like
my guy Kyle. He should have been in their period.
He was fourth in the league in sacks and he
didn't make the Pro Bowl. He wasn't in All Pro
and it was like fourth in the league in sacks
on the top defense. He should have been in there anyway.
But he was the first alternate. That's how it's supposed

(21:30):
to be. You have twelve and a half sacks. That's
how the alternates are supposed to be. But when you
just like a random like I ain't getting there.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
I get that, you know, and.

Speaker 9 (21:42):
It seems like telling the truth because we're in the
soft era, just twenty twenty five. You say anything, You
voice your opinion as you considered the hater.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
This is not hating. This is a fact.

Speaker 9 (21:54):
If you were not next up on the list, how
did they skip over all these people and just throw
you in there.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
There has to be some type of criteria to get
you in there.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
That's why we got you, man, because you know you.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
You had great success obviously at the pro level.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Looking at this game coming up, this this Super Bowl game,
give me your expert analysis on the defensive fronts in
this game. This is this is not a military secret.
Of course, they're going to be the ones that dictate
what happened. Absolutely, if if Kansas City's defensive front can

(22:34):
handle the mass and the athleticism of Phillies offensive line,
it's going to be a Saquon Barkley day, which I
kind of feel like Saquon is going to have a day.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
But what is your take on it?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Phillies D line phenomenal d line, Jalen has I think
transition from being a talent and a potential talent.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
To he's a he's a guy, He's a he's a guy.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
What's your take like, who do you see having to
add and what's your take on it going into the game.

Speaker 9 (23:05):
So if we go back to the AFC Championship, Kansas
City run defense.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Was real leaky. They didn't stop Buffalo. They didn't stop
James Cook.

Speaker 9 (23:14):
Buffalo stopped James Cook right go back before that, they
didn't stop Houston. So they didn't stop those two teams.
What makes it now comes in sa Kwon Barkley. Philly
is gonna do what Philly does. That boy is getting
that ball about twenty five to thirty times.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
That scares me.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
Flip to the other side, the offensive line for Kansas
City hasn't been great. Patrick Mahomes has been hit and
sacked more than he's been his since he's been a starter.
So now it comes down to how's Andy Reid gonna
draw it up? Because we know physical physical Kansas City's

(23:58):
d line can at least combat Philly's old line. They
can at least combat it.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
Flip it.

Speaker 9 (24:07):
I don't feel like Kansas City's old line can combat
Philly's defensive line. So it's gonna have to be drawn up.
And Brady, you notice the run game is gonna have
to be screens. It's gonna have to be a different variation,
not just handing the ball off. And that's the joy
of having Andy Reid. He can manipulate your defense, and

(24:30):
you're giving him two weeks to be able to figure
this out. Where it's going to come in is Kansas City.
Andy Reid can manipulate you all game. At some point
they're gonna have to go man for man and block
Philly's defensive line.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
Nolan Smith is really the X factor.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
You go back to the Rams game when Jalen Carter
had the sack and then the pressure I broke it
down on NFL Network. It wasn't that he did anything special.
You know why he came so free. They slid the
protection to the right. The guard who's supposed to stay
in wait when Jalen Carter comes into the A gap,

(25:10):
they're supposed to double and wait. He was so worried
about Nolan Smith that he didn't hold. He took off
running to go help with Nolan Smith for having stunned
because he was killing them all game, and Jalen Carter
literally was just running upfield. The center was looking this
way because he's thinking, when Jalen Carter comes down.

Speaker 7 (25:32):
I have help, so I'm gonna peak.

Speaker 9 (25:34):
And when he peaked, Jalen Carter just ran straight to
the quarterback because of what Nolan Smith has been doing.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Gotcha.

Speaker 9 (25:40):
So we talk about Jalen Carter, but people are forgetting
Nolan Smith is playing the best football he's plays.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
Since he's been in the pro.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
So that's gonna be the X factor, the tandem of
those two.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Jerald McCoy joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, the
co host of McCoy and Vanoy on Yahoo Sports. They
didn't want to ask you. We were talking about this yesterday.
The tush push Mark Murphy, the Packers president until he
retires in July. It doesn't like to play once it outlawed,
and we were kind of having the discussion, you know,
it doesn't really look like anything else in the NFL

(26:13):
as somebody who played at the highest level on that
defensive line. How are you stopping it? Can you stop it?

Speaker 9 (26:21):
For me, I feel like everybody's tried everything. You can,
try and lift the center up.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
You can try and load the ay gaps, you can.

Speaker 9 (26:28):
It is really a matter of Jalen Hurts and his
strength and how he's running it.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
And I mean he has to fall forward for a yard.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Right, and by the way, the NFL, he's over seventy
percent for all.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
Teams using Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (26:42):
So it's it's it's a matter of how they're using it.
And for me, I've never been a guy where it's.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Like, oh, they shouldn't run it. Is it legal? It's legal?

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Right, it's legal.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Then you got to try to stop it. Stop it.

Speaker 9 (26:54):
Don't let him get that, let them get that close,
put them in, get them off track, get them on schedule.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
All Philly does is what Philly does.

Speaker 9 (27:03):
They get in a position where they're close enough to
where they can run this play. If you don't want
them to run it, keep them out of that position.
I don't think you should, Oh we should outlaw this play.
We've already made football so soft. We can't just stop
just oh well, they can't run it, because can't nobody
stop it?

Speaker 7 (27:19):
That's weird.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I want to transition into just talk about your transition
from football to broadcasting. First off, was it something that
you always envision? And then second, you have a unique perspective.
Your last stop with Las Vegas Raiders kind of went
through the whole situation with Gruden, everything else, and so
I'm kind of curious to get your thoughts and just
how that season went, how they went down. But then
even now what he's doing with his career, also trying

(27:43):
to kind of maybe get back into it more, but
doing it in a unique route through more broadcasting.

Speaker 9 (27:47):
Yeah. So one, yes, I didn't really have a choice.
You know, from the time I can remember all the
way back to being four years old playing Santa in
the end of the school Christmas play, to being in
church and leading songs and doing promos from my high
school and at OU and with Tampa and when I
got speaking of Vegas, or when I got injured with

(28:10):
the Cowboys, everybody start calling immediate. Do you think he's
gonna keep playing? If he's not, do you think he's
ready to start working his way? I'm like, God, let
me quit first, Like y'all.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Forced me into this.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
I feel like you shined on hardening. And then I
remember watching Hard Hard Knocks.

Speaker 9 (28:28):
What they did is they came to me before and
they said, hey, are you ready to be a star?
And I said, just turn the camera a long as
you do push record, I'll do the rest. And that's
just me. It's not where I don't like tryhards when
people are not just themselves. Was it Liam Cohen? He

(28:53):
did whatever he did that.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
Was a try hard. You're trying to be something that
you're not.

Speaker 9 (29:05):
Me me, what I what I am is just what
I am, and that's who I've always been. Cameras don't
bother me, articulate my thoughts, don't bother me. Figuring outside
the box, it don't bother me. So it was kind
of like a write of passage. And you guys know,
there's nothing that can substitute for that competition on that field,

(29:27):
that locker room to travel all of it. As much
as we say, who I'm tired, I'm exhausted. At the
end of the week. You give anything to go do
it again, so to have to have.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
I don't want to go back and do it again.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Jee, I know I'm saying right now, I.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Don't ever want to go back and do it again.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
You didn't know, So what has substitute? Love? I love this,
This substituted for the competition.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Don't get the feeling.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
That's all I'm saying. I will never That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
And I agree with you.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
That's what I'm saying. The feeling I.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Want I want. I want you doing what you're doing,
and I love being here.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
I love being here and I don't want to go
back and play.

Speaker 9 (30:06):
But when you're done playing, you try and find something
that I was blessed enough to be able to transition
right into this.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Jerald McCoy all pro more importantly a pro bowler when
the Pro Bowl was really yeah, the uh, the McCoy
and many on Yahoo's Sports and by the way, at
McCoy and van Oy with Gerald McCoy and Kyle Vanoy's
on Yahoo Sports, it's the show that brings fans inside
the locker room and breaks down the game through a

(30:34):
player's point of view. Congrats on your career, your post career,
your transition. They've done really well for your somewhere. Happy
for you, man, they stopped buying.

Speaker 7 (30:42):
Thanks you, man, I appreciate it. I love them. I
love you man.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Man Man.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Stay on them them knuckles though, make sure you continue
to address them knuckles.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
Us p s A to America. Yes, get you some lotion.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
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and cop it up next here. Yes, we are going
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Speaker 2 (32:05):
Here to feed your degenerate gambling soul the proper monsters.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
Allright, have you caught your breath?

Speaker 7 (32:23):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (32:23):
We need he ya, we've gotta.

Speaker 10 (32:25):
I have caught my breath, but I am sweating profusely.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Exactly do you go about catching your breath? And how
fast was it? How how hard did you have to
run to go catch it?

Speaker 6 (32:35):
It was just legit routes.

Speaker 10 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did some some deep balls. Uh yeah,
that I had to. We had to practice practice our
plays a few times.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
That's the healthiest thing you've done, the healthiest thing you've
done since you've gotten to Louisiana.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Sure, yeah, yeah, absolutely good for you.

Speaker 10 (32:53):
Haven't been going to the gym this week?

Speaker 7 (32:54):
Have not?

Speaker 5 (32:55):
And was smashed in some vignets yesterday.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Man, I mean he was destroyed it.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
I swear to you.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
When I came down and saw them at lunch, breakfast
late what everyone call it. It looked like he was
living in Miami in the eighties. Okay, so he had powder.
Face was on everything. It was like he went to
it in the nineteen eighties.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Everybody needs the bad guy.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Hello, Cord liquor store.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
He had powder everywhere. I was like, Lee, powdered out.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
So what, by the way, what is a beignet? Is
it just a donut?

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Yes? Yeah, it's like a funnel cake almost. I would
assume it's a powdered donut. Yes, like a powder yes.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
Like why why do you just go to seven eleven
and pick up some don't.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
I'm telling you, Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
They they they got this way of tricking you into
thinking that.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
They hype it up.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's like instead of saying, like, all right, it's a
dough nut like doughnut, it's like, ha, you can't go.
I'll tell you what you guys, you gotta have yourself
with coffee and like what what?

Speaker 7 (34:22):
Yeah, yourself coffee?

Speaker 10 (34:24):
Do you want to hear something crazy?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
It says the main difference between them is their shape.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
There you go square and donuts around around.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
All right, I'll just tell you got us, you got well, yeah,
we get it at the end of the week though
we we we have to leave it here for display sake,
but yes it is for you, Matthews.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yes, all right, So Lee, what are we looking at
for today's profits?

Speaker 7 (34:52):
Here?

Speaker 5 (34:52):
What do we what?

Speaker 10 (34:53):
We got a number of things here for you. How
about this number of times you hear the phrase three
pet during the broadcast.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
Over under, three.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
And a half, all over, under, over, after kickoff?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Is that after kick after it doesn't it matter how
the game's going.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
That's one of the main storylines. And yes, if you.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Think, if you think can't City is gonna win, you
probably taking the over. If you don't, then Philly is probably, but.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
It's probably going to be the early game storyline, like
it's going to go three and a half times. That
is not that many times for a game where the
main one of the main it is the main storyline,
which is getting getting three Super Bowls in a row.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
That three three times, and I.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Bet you it's three and a half before you get
out of the first quarter.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I'm switching my answ I'm saying the under yeah, oh
I don't think I don't think they're want to pay pout.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
And also because Tom Brady's on the call, he doesn't
want to point out that there's a three pt on
the way. He never got a.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Three p why not.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Here's the thing. Tom Brady is the goat.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
That's a flex like, oh, do something I didn't do
when you're as good as he has been and he's
accomplished what he's accomplished.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
That man has more super Bowls than.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
You do know. If Mahomes wins, that's his fourth, Yes,
I get it.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
And how he's still three away, yeah in six season
he's still three away.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
B right, he's still three away. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
On this clip though, I mean, you just never know
when the milk could go bad, man, anytime, Like the
milk could go bad, like people could fall off a
clip twenty one time. You just you just never know,
like this could be the last time Patrick Mahomes and
casey Ard that's good.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
You just never know how old is he twenty eight,
twenty nine?

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Man, I don't know now that this is not if
this was number seven or number eight, I get it's
gonna be overly good guys.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
I'll watch what I tell you.

Speaker 10 (36:52):
Jersey number of the first touchdown scorer over under fifteen
and a half unders would.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
Be the likes of Jalen Hurts, Deevante Smith, A J.

Speaker 10 (37:00):
Brown, Pacheco obviously my home's number fifteen Kelsey over over.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Who else for Kansas City would be over It would
be like Watson or someone else who's not like A
worthy Hollywood Browns.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
What numbers?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
What?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
He could be the buster, you know what I mean?
He could he could bust it. He could be the
one that gets it.

Speaker 10 (37:31):
Yeah, guys, national anthem is gonna be sung by Jean
Baptiste over under on the time of who Baptiste he's.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Was he at the Grammy?

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Well, yeah, Jean Battist is at a hotel nearby.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
What is a UFC fighter?

Speaker 7 (37:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:49):
What is the Jean Baptiste.

Speaker 10 (37:51):
He's very famous John Baptiste.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
He's a Guardians of the Universe.

Speaker 7 (37:56):
He's on one of the late night shows.

Speaker 10 (37:57):
He's what he's the head of the band on which
which he's so famous.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
You can't even name which band he's on which late
night show.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
That guy could walk up with a name tag that
says I'm John Baptiste and I wouldn't know what the
hell he wants.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
That's that's a terrible plus.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
The what's the numberly.

Speaker 7 (38:11):
Well one twenty one minutes in a.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Second under, but how are we going to know?

Speaker 4 (38:19):
We're in a dome too, there's no issue with the flyover.
I'm gonna take the under as well.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
I'll take the over.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
He's hold what kind of singer is he?

Speaker 10 (38:25):
He's a piano jazz singer.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Over draw it out and it's probably piano. You gotta
understand a name like that, it's built in. You're a
blow hard. He's gonna stretch us out as it's not.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
His fault, that's his parents fault.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
That's a long time to be singing though a minute
and a half.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
That was like draw it out, that was like one second.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
No, it does not. It's hard to get over too,
and two minutes in the national anthem. I'm going I'll
stick with the under. No, I'm telling you the genre
is gonna kill me.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
What else? It's the Late Show with Stephen Colbert.

Speaker 7 (38:59):
By the way, there was a.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Reason looked it up like you knew it, But go ahead.

Speaker 10 (39:03):
Roughing the passer penalties on Patrick mahomes.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Oh, what's the number?

Speaker 7 (39:08):
One and a half under?

Speaker 4 (39:11):
I think they'll for sure be one though. This is
a good this is a good one.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
They're gonna get to him. It's gonna be more. I'm
taking the.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Over, I'm taking the under, but there'll be one taking.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Oath exod for today. How many was that?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Four?

Speaker 7 (39:24):
Or five? That was four? Whatever?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
The fifth, that's a good one.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
I'm saving it for tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
What no, you're not. Oh my gosh,
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