February 14, 2025 • 40 mins
The guys close out the last hour of the show talking about what goes into consideration when it comes to legacy discussions when it comes to greats like Jordan, LeBron and now Patrick Mahomes coming off his Super Bowl loss and where are some questionable quarterbacks going to end up next season?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
Oh, good morning, welcome in here. Help your Fridays off
to a fantastic start. We'll get to some quarterbacks maybe
on the move. Also an interesting tweet about your guy
Aaron Rodgers. We'll do that momentarily. Here Jeff broadcasting live
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So we'll start with the tweet here, Okay, Jeff, because
the Jets said, all right, Rogers, we're just done.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Can break up on Valentine's Day?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
How dare they cannot do it anymore? It's been two years,
two years of this relationship. We want no more of it. Okay,
it's over. We don't know who the next quarterback is.
We just know it's not you, is what the Jets
have said. So we talked about this, and so we
got a little bit of reaction over here. And I
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wanted to throw this your away because I thought this
tweet was interesting. I don't agree with it, but it's
good for conversations from Preller Forever. Okay, it's got to
be a Padres fan, right, aj Preller the main guy
over there. I'm assuming that's okay here, So Preller Forever.
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He wrote in to us and said, Aaron Rodgers through
for four thousand yards and thirty touchdowns last year. Whatever
you want to say about him, fine, but don't say
he wasn't good. Okay. A couple of things here, Jeff.
He's rounding up, but not by leaps and bounds, rounding up.
That's a round to like four thirty touchdowns. But there's
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a tweet by Bill Barnwell that I think is interesting.
Let me throw another tweet out here. So Bill Barnwell.
He was talking about how much the Jets invested in
Aaron Rodgers and what they got out of the deal. Okay,
so you tell me if this is worth it. Two
second round picks, seventy five million dollars, the contracts for
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Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb and Tim Boyle, another third round pick,
and eleven point six million dollars for DeVante Adams. A
year plus with Nathaniel Hackett as offensive court Yeah, of course, yep.
Five wins after all was said and done. Five wins
with Aaron Rodgers this past season. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Man. It's like, I feel like that's not worth it,
But I don't know. I'm maybe a project yet.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Not worth it at all. That's why sometimes you got
to go beyond the stats. We can't sit here and
tell you that Aaron Rodgers was the worst quarterback or
even think he was the worst.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Either of us say worst quarterback, or we just said
it didn't work out like I was supposed.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
To, didn't at all, Like it was not a success.
And you could look at the numbers all day. There's
no way anyone in the right football mind can convince
you it was a success. In New York. It wasn't.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So did you know that Xavier Worthy and the Super
Bowl E set the rookie record for most receiving yards
and a Super Bowl? Did you do you know that?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
But any chance I didn't, I know it now. Yeah,
but that didn't matter at all to the matter. Stats
are not you have to Stats are good, but they're
not bad. I mean, they happened, right, But you have
to also have contacts behind them.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Like I could tell you Xavier Worthy had that great
day and you'd be like, man, the Chiefs must have
played No, I mean, no, he played well. If he
needs the ball more, I would argue he should have
had the ball from the beginning of the game. Yeah,
and he certainly made some great plays. But the last
touchdown was against backups Like I had that to me?
Is you know as so?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Like and think about that too, Jeff or how many
times were the Jets out of contention in a game?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And it changes the coverage that Aaron Rodgers going to
see that that factors into the stats too.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Of course it does. So that's why I think, Yeah, Yeah,
the numbers were there. I mean like Russell Wilson's numbers
aren't terrible. But I mean, come on, he's not yeah
good at the NFL quarterback right now, so our starting quarterback. So, like,
the point is that Rogers is held to a very
high standard because he is a Hall of Fame quarterback
and you know, he went to m VPS before showing
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up in New York and that standard was not upheld
with it. Now, there's many reasons why it's not all
his fault. I feel like the you know, the the
offensive line wasn't great at times. You know, he might
have brought his friends in, but the weapons weren't always
the best, right, I mean, it's not But again it's
in the end though. He's judged for his performance and
he's supposed to be this franchise changing type player and
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we just didn't see it last season in New York.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Man, I'll tell you what. The comparison that did not
age well at all was Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.
Do you know how many years, Jeff, like, the top
ten quarterback list would come out and how many years
did it was like a consistent thing where the masses
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had Rogers over Tom Brady. Yeah, it's like that. That
comparison is absolutely dead. I never want to hear that
comparison again, and it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
How we know it's not one thing that came outterable
Sunday about comparisons. By the way, I am shocked. I
guess I'm not shocked. Shouldn't be shocked in social media
and takes the amount of people that are like that,
are that are putting dirt on the grave of mahomes career.
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My man is twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
We do realize that, right, He's twenty nine years old
and in seven seasons as a starter, he has been
to to seven Answer Championship games, and he has been
in five Super Bowls and he's won two three of them.
I should say he's three and two. He's a three
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time Super Bowl MVP. He's a two time League MVP.
He is as good as we always thought he was.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Did he play his best game on Sunday? Absolutely not.
But it feels like we sort of are just always
picking and choosing what we decide matters for legacy. The
thing that I've never understood Brian about in this legacy's
gotch this will believe into like Lebron and Jordan and
I know, I think you're a Jordan guy. But is
the idea that like Jordan' six and O one finals,
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but Lebron's been a ten finals, Like where where are
the other finals Jordan's been to? And with you know,
the Tom Brady thing, It's like, you know, why why
do we never take into consideration losses before before getting
to that game? We don't do that with with Brady ever.
We don't do that with Jordan ever, because that does matter.
And Mahomes doesn't lose many playoff games, and when he has,
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it's they've been in overtime and you know, or in
a super Bowl obviously, and he might have stretches where
he loses the wild card, right, I mean, next year,
I think it's gonna be hard for the cheer. I
don't think we're gonna se the same Chiefs team. But
we just do not consider those games when it comes
to legacy. I think we sort of should, like the
legacy matters every year, not only Super Bowl. So we
have talked about where they are as a you know,
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as a team in a given year. So it just
frustrates me that that's the way we do it. But
also we get the Tom Brady loss as a two
touchdown favorite in the Super Bowl. He wanted to be fair.
He did want as a two touchdown underdog his first year,
but he did lose as a two touchdown favorite. I
see the number. You know, people thought, well, he only
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lost through super bowls by fifteen points. Yeah, but one
of them he was a two touchdown favorite scored fourteen points, right,
So it's it's so, I don't know, I think we're
I think sometimes we cherry picked the stats and we
want to use.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, you know. You know what's funny though, is a
lot of similarities between this latest super Bowl with Mahomes
and that Super Bowl forty two with Brady where they
only scored those fourteen points, Like you're like you're talking
about where the consistent theme was pressure. Like the Giants
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against the undefeated Patriots were all over Tom Brady. Yeah,
the Eagles were all over Mahomes and parallel. Yeah, had
a big impact on that game. I just can't get
over Mahomes in Super Bowl fifty five against Tampa when
he didn't have his starting offensive.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Attach, it was much better than he was.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Kay, He's running for his life. He was sensational that game.
He was drunk against the Eagles. I've never seen him
play at first half as badly as he did. But
I like you can say that without going off the
deep end in terms of legacy or where he's headed next.
I think you can say both, Like he did not
play well at all, But that doesn't mean this is
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what we got going forward. It doesn't mean that at all.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It doesn't And of course, like that's the what we
do in sports talk radio, right, we just sort of
just set these narratives. No, Mahomes did not play well.
I think that they went at the game being very
fearful the pass rush, not being proactive with like the
pass rush right, like you have to you know sometimes
just you know say okay, it's gonna be bad, but
let's it's not a game playing around. I think they
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just went into the game very fearful. But yeah, the
Mahomes discussion, Guys, they're gonna be fine. The Chiefs are.
You have more opportunities of this, Probably not next year
in my opinion that Nick, there's probably not that season.
But discussion about this it's been so lame. I mean
it's been so lame.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
It's been for me, it's been more about the Chiefs
collectively than Mahomes. I haven't heard, and I'm not disputing
what you're saying, right, I know the anti Mahomes stuff
is out there, but I've heard much more anti Chief stuff.
And to me, it's like, yeah, it's like losing the
Super Bowl the way they did to the Eagles. It's like, well,
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this is a cautionary tale, major warning signs. The arrow
is pointed down, Like, I'm like, they they have Mahomes. Yeah,
well what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Look, I mean I think that people are tired of
the Chiefs, which I understand, right, And the way they
lost was so jarring that we immediately turned to that, right,
like this is never going to work again.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Jeff, think about the Broncos. Remember the Broncos got crushed
by the Seahawks. They want a Super Bowl two years later?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yep, No, you're right, but I think it is worth
mentioning like the Chiefs are a little bit of a
reset year in my opinion. When you look at at
Travis Kelsey, I think he retires. I've said this for weeks,
it's not anything new, and listening to him on his
podcast this week, it sounds like that's a possibility, right,
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He talked about just sort of the grind of every
sort of every which is again it's like, that's the
hard part about about you don't play National Football League.
It's it's not just it's it's in every it's an
every week thing, right.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
And I think it's also because he's talking about not
being the player he once.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Was, which.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But that's the part where you're like, wow, he really
could walk away.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So I think the hard part about that discussion from
his perspective, because I again I think he's you know,
he's easily the best pat catching tight end of all time,
is that.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
He did not play well on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's up there with his worst game ever. I mean,
it was it was. It was not good. He looked old,
he looked disinterested.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I do want to hear. Yeah, the first.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Play he the first ball he got thrown was behind
him and that and he got but he got he
got hit right in the ribs, in the lower back.
I do wonder if that made him a little bit
certainly fair to to maybe think that. But still, I mean,
his past paction was bad. It's just he looked very
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out of it in this game. And the Chiefs in general,
I thought looked tired. Now, the reason that they looked
tired is also the Eagles just beat out of him.
But they looked like a team that for two weeks
thought about their legacy. And again, it's certainly fair to
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say that without Kelsey next year was offense look like.
But I want to remind you guys, the first three
weeks of the season, yeah, Rare she Rice had twenty
nine targets and twenty four catches.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He was on targe. He was on pace for some
ridiculous numbers.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Man, So the Chiefs were already preparing for this. Yeah,
but then he got hurt and then Hollywood Brown got
her in the preseason like they went you know, Juju Smith,
Schuster and DeAndre Hopkins were not supposed to be starting
in the Super Bowl for them, right, But that was
not the plan this season. Xavier Worthy got really good,
you know, the last six weeks of the season. So
Xavier Worthy Race she Rice a couple of times in
the offensive line they have to make and they're just
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right where back where they need to be. And so
the idea that they can't come back from this again
there's a transition. Per they're going to probably lose their
middle linebacker and their safety and they got a draft
but you know, well again and developed these players. But
the idea that they're like done for to me, I mean,
it's crazy, seems so silly to me. If you hope
that and you're not you know, I get if you're
not Che's fan, that's what you want.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But right right, they're good, reasonable, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Going to be around for a while. I do wonder
if that Travis kelce does like a see Andy Reedson
old people, Andy reads an old school coach. People are
gonna say, you know, is Travis Kelsey gonna be sort
of on a pitch count this year? Right? Like if
he plays right? Like sort of how Gronk was the
end of his career where you know, in just a
couple of weeks a year, he didn't really see what
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he was actually playing, and then he would show up
for a game or two and then Andy Reid is
not a type of coach in my mind to tell
or to to basically be okay with Travis kelcey sort
of uh, not giving his full effort every week. And
they're never gonna cut on Brian. They're not gonna go
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and cut him. But I do wonder how that discussion
happens this off season because he's not He's just not
the same point. He's No, it's not a slight of
Travis Kelsey. He's a first Battle Hall of Famer, best
receiving ten end of all time, not not the same
player anymore. They cannot rely on him to be that
guy every week because if they do, it's really gonna
be detriment to the offense moving forward.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, this could be it for all the reasons that
you mentioned. The main thing on the opposite end is
maybe Kelsey just says, I don't want that to be
my last game. Yeah that's performance.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So people have said that, and my pushback on this,
Brian is like, yes, it's easy to say that, right,
but you think about sort of like all I gotta
do to get back to the super Bowl for.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
The FO Sure, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And like sort of like maybe your rational part of
your brain takes over. It's like that's just not this
is not doable.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Like maybe maybe it is. You know what. It reminds
me of one of my guitar friends. Okay, so there's
a real quick story. This guy's a great guitarist, went
to school for like orchestra type stuff like this whole thing.
And then he was doing the cover songs. He was
in a cover band and he's playing like these, you know,
like pop songs or whatever, and you know, at heart
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he's more like a punk guy, like all these underground
slabs of music, and and anyway, he finishes for doing
this cover stuff for years and whatever the last song was,
it was like I don't know something from some pop
artist and he's like, this just can't be it. This
just can't be the way I end. Like my guitar career,
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I'm serious, like I hear you to ramp it up
and to go through all of the wear and tear
training camp. He's talked about all these deep playoff runs
they had.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
They play a lot of choose to play a lot
of football.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Absolutely so I could see him saying, look, man, I've
had a great career, I'm dating a famous woman. I
have more money that I can spend in my lifetime.
This is the time for me to go. It wouldn't
shock me at all. But on the other end is
I don't want to go out like that. I can
absolutely see that being the road toward a possible year
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back again, right, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Us don't get the opportunity to just go out how
we want. I mean, that's the National Football League. The
money things A fun discussion quickly. Okay, So Travis Kelsey
has been underpaid for most of his career. He's gonna
pay look a wide receiver, he's due like eighteen million
this year. Like he's due a lot of money. And yes,
he's made a lot of money off the field, and
like that's certainly fair to bring up and whatnot. But
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I could see him just being like, I want that
eighteen million dollars. I'm gonna So I thought about the
ways that Chiefs can pay him without him playing this year,
Like would they do him a solid? I don't know
they would do this. It's very unnfl Like it's basically
be like, we'll pay you to not play this year.
So there's a couple of ways, right. One is, obviously
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they just give a big bonus. They convert that that
base salary to a bonus, and then he retires, so
they pay him the bonus and he retires and they
just like call it a day. Basically, that's certainly an option.
The other way is just uninjured reserve. But then that
counts against the cap for the season, like they you know,
the plan is like we're just going to pay him
out basically because we think he deserves the money. Yea,
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you know the bonus ways that the bonus ways the
way to do it right. We just give them, you know,
you convert that base salary and then you cut them.
And because I feel like he again, he's been paid
like a tight end, which is less than a wide receiver.
Though he's more of a wide receiver than a tight end.
So his career earnings wall a lot I'm not comparing
to the job, are not really like what he should
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have made for his career. So I do wonder if
there's some some fun little accounting for the Chiefs to
do here to say, hey man, look, we don't want
to cut you, but like we got to move on,
like it's time to move on. And part of that
is we'll find a way to give you some money
and then we'll part ways because it's time. It's time,
like it's time for the Chiefs, and I think Travis
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is awesome, but they got to find new offense now.
And again I wonder if that is as simple as
you know, Travis, like you gotta we gotta find a way.
This is New England, right check with cut him in
a heartbeat.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Oh absolutely, be artless man. Hey. Coming up next on
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, We're live from
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We'll compare notes with a few different teams coming up.
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Speaker 4 (19:43):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No. We're in for Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe live from the Tyrack
dot Com studios here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, Jeff, So,
I want to know what you think about these these
NFL teams and if they they're gonna run it back
with their current quarterback, are they going to go in
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a different direction like the Jets just did with Aaron Rodgers.
Jets are a great example. They're like, we don't know
what we're gonna do. But we know it's not gonna
be Aaron Rodgers. We'll figure it out. Okay, So should
these other teams maybe do the same thing. I know
you love this quarterback, Derek Carr. What do you think
the Saints do? Do they run it back with Derek Carr?
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Or they say you got Kellen Moore different directions? No
chance with Derek Carr.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You're saying, I think there's no chance? Okay, Wow, well again,
I say this all the time coaches at new general managers,
new coaches like they have their own quarterback. Now, obviously
with the cap situation, they're not to keep them. I
don't know. But the fact is they have no allegion
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to Derek Carr. He's not a good quarterback. He takes
up a ton of money in the cap. Why have him?
Why just it? Why?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I'm just laughing because I don't know what happened. Like
I get it, like Derek Carr is not upper echelon.
I'm not telling you he is, But I don't know
what happened. Somewhere along the way, Derek Carr just ruined
an eight leg round robin of yours or something crazy
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happened where you've been so anti Derek Carr. It seems
like there's a story behind it. You know, Am I
wrong on that?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
There's no story. I don't think he's very good.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But no, there's no story. It's something he's good. Yeah,
that's it. I don't have any that's all I wish.
I wish I had a better, better story than that,
but I just don't have. I don't have that for you.
I tell you, I just don't think he's good quarterback.
And I think we confuse, like officially sometimes with him
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with being good and just he's not. So that's that's
that's why.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Well I think, yeah, okay, let's throw a couple other
teams out here. How about this is similar because you've
got a new head coach in town? Yeah, Jacksonville. There
have been rumors, right the Steelers have been interested in
Trevor Lawrence. The Steelers have disputed those rumors.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, I understand they don't. How can there be trade
talks and he's not there's no actual general manager. That's
that's why I sort of understand those rumors being bs.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Right right right now that kind of need a general
manager to have Colin shod conn.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Liam Cohen is in charge of it. The way the
way that they acted about getting him, it sounds like,
I mean there he like goes to the box and
he must be the best coach of all time the
way that he got this job. Uh so okay, So
my thing on Lawrence is I mentioned again coach quarterback
they're liking in their own guys. I could see them
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trying to make it work with Lawrence for a year
because he's he is, at least on paper like he's
not talented.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Right, I agree with them. And look at Leam Cohen
with Baker and they try to.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Make it work, and they try to make it work
in the situation and if it doesn't work, then they'll
they'll move on.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Right now, I agree with that, dude. We can always
get that in there, right How about how about the
Seahawks they running it back with Geno Smith again or
they're like, look, man, we're only so good, let's try
to get better. Is this you tell me if this
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is a decent compared I think it's decent. Is it not?
Like the Chiefs with Alex Smith, Like we're good, We're
we're winning games, but we're not going anywhere? Is that
not where the Seahawks are right now with Gino?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yes. The only problem is this is not a draft
where like you're finding you know, a replacement, like an
immediate upgrade. I mean think about also, I'll give I'll
give him a shot out a Dame Brugler, who I
think does a great job for.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
The athletic fantastic job. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
He mentioned on a podcast yesterday with Robert Mays that
this might be the first year in X amount of
years that we have more Day two quarterbacks than Day
one quarterbacks. So the day that means we have more
quarterback drafter than the second and third round than the first round.
Because at the moment, you really just have two, right
you have you have, you have cam Ward, and you
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have your standards. Look, you might get a Jackson Dark
State there, but like that's not really a great choice.
I think if you're looking to like immediately you know
have a winning type team, right, So if you're Seattle,
you know, another one more bridge year. Gino does feel
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like the best option at the moment because the veteran
market's not great.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Sam Darnold, It's kind of like, uh, I hear.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You when you roll back with you know, for one
more year maybe.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
But it reminds me a little bit of a little
bit of the Broncos just in terms of they had
They're on the hook for all this money with Russell
Wilson and they're just like, yeah, we're not doing that,
And I say, okay, well what are you doing. They're like,
we don't know, We'll figure it out. And they ended
up with bow Knicks and at least but for one year.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
But but Brian bow Knicks would be the second quarterback
drafted in this class probably. I mean, you have a
discussion between him and cam Ward as number one pet
I think they're both better than than Shauldure.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
So you think it would be what do you think
the order would be if bo was part of this group?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I think he cam Ward won, bow Knicks two should
do three?
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Interesting, what do you think? I mean, it's possible. It's
hard to get in the mind of these gms, and
we're so early in this process. Yea, yeah, like April
fourteenth compared to February fourteenth. Oh yeah, yeah, it's so different,
Like two months from now, it'll be like, oh whatever,
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the guy right like.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No, you're I mean Kim wore I think is very easily,
like the most talented of the two quarterbacks, Shoulder is
more refined right now, and like if you bring in Should,
you probably have a guy who's ready now much sooner.
But Kim Moore just physically is a different quarterback than Should.
Has got better army, moves better, so there's more accurated.
But I think the upside for Schadur is not there
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as with cam Ward. But again I think it's a
big head and miss with I mean bo Nicks, it's
twenty four like is what he was? You know what
I mean? But the point is that you know they
got Bownicks as the fifth quarterback of the first sixth
quarterback of the first.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Round, Yes, the first round, six sixth one.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You know you're not There's no six quarterbacks in the
first round this year. That's why I think for Seattle,
I like your idea of that. But Gino is also
better than Russell Wilson, and I think you just say, well,
you know, we'll give you that that one plus one deal,
right essentially, we're you know, we'll give you one year
and we'll play a second year on there. And that's
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how we'll treat this season. If you're Seattle.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah, that would be interesting to see how it plays out,
because some of these teams are like, Hey, what we're
doing right now isn't working, and we'll just figure it
out as we go along, and maybe there's an opportunity
that presents itself that's legit, and maybe there isn't. Right.
I think some teams think we have to have a
legitimate option before we jump, and I get that thinking too.
(27:41):
So we'll see some of these teams that they like
the Seahawks, could easily think all right, we're only so
good with GINO, but are we improving by moving on right?
Like that's a legitimate question you have to ask, Oh.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I agree, I I you know what's searching about these
discussions to me and Brian a lot. They're also they're
fun to have, but it does lead me to think,
and there's been talk about this, the NFL calendar has
to change where fregency is after the draft, Like, wouldn't
that change a lot of these discussions because Seattle, right now,
you know, it's decided like, oh, well do we do
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we like? What do we do? And do we have
to you know, because if you have the opposite direction
where you have the draft of forfeit agency would probably
make their decisions much much cleaner, right, because we'll just
go get you know, well, if we don't get a quarterback,
we'll just sign Jo Smith back.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It makes it this and this is the fun about
team building and makes it difficult. You don't know what
you're gonna get in the draft. But that's if Seattle
where they're sitting right now with the draft they're not
getting I mean, Jackson Dart is the only option probably
to have it there, maybe maybe like a Tyler Shuck,
I guess. I mean it's not great, Brian. So that's
why I think that you're gonna end up a situation
where the see Seattle like has to sign Geno back
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because there's not great great choices.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh. The Shock is an interesting guy too,
because there are some people that are pretty high on him. Yeah,
they're really high.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
It's like, yeah, I think people get really intoxicated with traits.
They can fix guys and Shuck, I mean he's a
trades guy. Has also been to like eight schools sound
a lot. Yeah, Like if you're that good, are you?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
You know?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The counter that is obviously cam Ward, but he was
incarnate word first, like I understand incarnate word washing at Miami.
Shuck was at Orgon that was his first stop. Oregon
and then Texas Tech and then Louisiana. Like a lot
of places to be at to be considered, like a
you know, if you're that good of a quarterback, maybe
one transfer. You know you're not playing somewhere, you transfer
somewhere else, but multiple transfers. That was gonna believe you,
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you're probably just okay, right.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I think these other two teams they got to have
someone new, do they not Steelers? You would agree with that, right,
most likely someone yeah? Please Titans? Oh yeah, moving on right.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Oh, Brian Callahan was very over.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He was over it in a week five.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It was done, he was he was done. Yeah yeah absolutely. Tennessee, yes, absolutely,
but you know Tennessee's a drinking.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Like they're picking number one.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah right. Yeah. So here's here's the thing about you
know the NFL. Obviously, like there's two, there's there's two.
There's basically two decisions to be had when drafting and
bullying a rostergether right, There's there's the the decision for
the front office that should that this is big picture, right,
(30:38):
and there's a decision about roster from the coaching perspective
that sees the near future. Because if you're Brian Callahan,
who just got that job, you know, as the head
coach before last season, you probably can't go four and
thirteen this season, right, But you also might not like
like cam Ward and might not like sur and you
(30:59):
think the best player to get is Abdull Carter or
get Travis Hunter. And that's decision they have to make
because again, like if you are Brian Callahan, you have
to win this year. Maybe you try to convince everyone
to draft Cam Moore, but he's really not the guy
the front office really wants for the long term. Because again,
you take Abdul Carter, who's the pass rusher from Penn State,
(31:21):
by the way, and then you're just like you're good,
You're good at defensive end, like you're like you're set
at a premum position National Football League. You have one
of the better young players. And then next year is
when you go invest in the quarterback. But I can
see them saying, like, we gotta win now. It's why
the Giants to Matt Stafford rumors, it's like the Giants
have to win immediately. Are they're getting all fired. Matt
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Stafford does nothing, nothing at all for the long term
future for Brian Dable and the Giants. That's just that
would be.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
A short term totally. Yeah, it's but you could look
at it the other side, look at the Patriots. They
need they need it and still do need a lot
of help with that roster, and they're like, we can't
pass up Drake May at number three.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
The Titans think about it like that, if they're.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Sold, if they like, if they think Kim Morton is
not going to have to draft them. But I don't
know if they think that, and I don't think and
I don't think that they should be beholden the thinking
that because they because you know, they might get fired,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
By the way, you mentioned Dane Brugler his work with
the Athletic. I was filling in for an Indianapolis station
a little while ago, and we're supposed to interview Dane Brugler,
right I'm doing a solo show.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
It was like, right before the interview, the producers like,
Dane can't make it. Oh no, And I don't remember
my exact words. Jeff, but it was something to You
could probably hear my heart breaking as I was saying
something like, oh oh really, no Dane, no Dane today,
something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Especially with it out with a solo show.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Oh dude, you really I would have just been throwing question,
what you think about this? What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Dad?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Dude? He covers stuff extensively. He does a really good job.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
He's fantastic. Yeah, but yeah, you need sometimes in some
of those moments. You need some of those uh you know,
the opportunity to uh to have those guests if you
have a solo show.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, no doubt about it. All right. He's Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Brian.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
No.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
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and then an interesting sports story to say the least,
been a lot of build up, maybe not a whole
(34:07):
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Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio these
Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian know we're in for two pros
and a cup of Joe live from the Tireck dot
Com studios here on Fox Sports Radio. You know, Valentine's Day,
(34:27):
love is in the air, Jeff, it is also you
love making money via sports betting here right? Try yeah,
I try it now and then anything you're loving coming up?
No no NBA today kind of breaks my betting heart.
But we don't exactly have a star studded college basketball
(34:50):
lineup on Friday. Most lines not out for Saturdays. Limited
options right now?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Limited options? You know, maybe it's good just to like
take a breath and not wag on sports Today.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
What that's crazy talk?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Jeff?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
What are you saying?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You know you could you could go with some of
the MLB striking out under? Is the crack sent over?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Just there's there's never an off day?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Man?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Was it Belichick? No days off? He was talking about
Bill Krackenberger in sports handicapfing.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Just like today's a great day to wager on, to
wager on on strikeout props?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, I know, you know college basketball tomorrow shows something
will pop up.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Hey man, the one game, Jeff is Auburn at Alabama. Yeah,
that's there's a look aheadline we got.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Can you even take the under in this one? Just
go just go over?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
It's almost like the NBA All Star Game, you know,
like you just told what to take it under and
be wrong?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
What's it is? There? Is there a look and a half?
There's a look Remember this year was it Bama Kentucky?
That there was like one seventy five and then it
oh over BU.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
And I was on the over that one that you
knew that was going to be a track meet?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
What's the number for this game? Like the like the
the spread?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
The spread is Bama favorite at home by a point
and a half.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
You like the dog on the road Auburn is as.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I think they're just better.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
They're a wagon, they play some defense, and they're coming
off a recent loss like Florida smack.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, yeah, they blew out someone the other day.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Though at Vanderbilt, van.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
They're just they're more, They're a more complete team. Like
Bama just plays a bunch of offense. They can't they
don't play any defense. So I will I'll tell you what.
There's there's a big difference in college basketball this season.
I feel like with sort of the SEC teams where
they look like the basketball player that Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee,
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Florida like they it looks different Kentucky versus you know,
Duke looks big because Cooper Flag. But I mean the
Big ten teams are just they're all losing in the
second round postseason.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
You know what's interesting too, while we're talking about potential
sports bets, so our guy Daniel Gafford of the MAVs,
he's out for at least six weeks. Dallas has like
no front court. All their dudes are injured right. Lively
is down, Anthony Davis is down, Dwight Powell is down.
(37:23):
You can get Dallas at plus money, like plus one
twenty five to miss the playoffs. Okay, that's an interesting
bet right now, they're in eighth place, they're in the
play in tournament. Who knows where it would go from there.
But what do you think about fading Dallas out of
the playoffs entirely? Would you go that far the promise?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Everyone in the NBA makes the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Except the Phoenix Suns, who are on the outside of
the play in looking.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
So, I mean, there are three games up on the Suns,
two in the lost column.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Jeez, but you got to play your way in. If
you're between seven and ten, you know what. But if
they slip down to ninth, then they only have one game.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
For this question, for this question though, for the for
the wager, is it counting once it doesn't have the
playing games because those are those playoff games.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
No, no, no, you're not technically in. That's you're you
have to read the fine print on the bet.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
But I would yes, Oh, then I would say probably.
Then I think that's a decent wager then to make.
I thought, if you make the ten, you're you're in.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
No, no, that you have to play your way in.
So I don't believe you would win your wager. If
you're like, oh, yeah, Dallas will make the playoffs and
they they lost in the play in there's no way
you would win that wager.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Okay, well then I feel a little bit different about
that then, Okay, yeah, not a bad wager then.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, maybe I don't know. I needed to be a
little bit more of a payout than just a little
more than even money.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
What about let's hear Indiana Fever to win the championship? Right,
one of those what do you what do you have
for a little little Genesis Invitational?
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Oh gosh, yeah, your guess is as good as mine.
We might be seeing some low scores. Scheffler, the same
golf course again is back? Yeah recently? I believe that's
the case.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
The scores were not that low yesterday. So I think
like four under was the best score yesterday. So Shuffler, though,
is right there?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
He's right U yeah, he's getting right. By the way,
what do you think about betting on this? So we
have Tyreek Hill of the Miami Dolphins racing. Noah Lyles,
would you put down any money on that?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I mean, is it one of those things where like
it's fixed like the Paul fights, Like.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Probably like a sixty yard dash, but it's gonna take
place sometimes the spring or summer. You're going Lyles. It
might be the right way to go, all right. Jeff,
good hanging with you, buddy. Sunday, You Sunday be there.
Happy Valentine's Day.
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
Oh, good morning, welcome in here. Help your Fridays off
to a fantastic start. We'll get to some quarterbacks maybe
on the move. Also an interesting tweet about your guy
Aaron Rodgers. We'll do that momentarily. Here Jeff broadcasting live
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So we'll start with the tweet here, Okay, Jeff, because
the Jets said, all right, Rogers, we're just done.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Can break up on Valentine's Day?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
How dare they cannot do it anymore? It's been two years,
two years of this relationship. We want no more of it. Okay,
it's over. We don't know who the next quarterback is.
We just know it's not you, is what the Jets
have said. So we talked about this, and so we
got a little bit of reaction over here. And I
(01:29):
wanted to throw this your away because I thought this
tweet was interesting. I don't agree with it, but it's
good for conversations from Preller Forever. Okay, it's got to
be a Padres fan, right, aj Preller the main guy
over there. I'm assuming that's okay here, So Preller Forever.
(01:49):
He wrote in to us and said, Aaron Rodgers through
for four thousand yards and thirty touchdowns last year. Whatever
you want to say about him, fine, but don't say
he wasn't good. Okay. A couple of things here, Jeff.
He's rounding up, but not by leaps and bounds, rounding up.
That's a round to like four thirty touchdowns. But there's
(02:12):
a tweet by Bill Barnwell that I think is interesting.
Let me throw another tweet out here. So Bill Barnwell.
He was talking about how much the Jets invested in
Aaron Rodgers and what they got out of the deal. Okay,
so you tell me if this is worth it. Two
second round picks, seventy five million dollars, the contracts for
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Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb and Tim Boyle, another third round pick,
and eleven point six million dollars for DeVante Adams. A
year plus with Nathaniel Hackett as offensive court Yeah, of course, yep.
Five wins after all was said and done. Five wins
with Aaron Rodgers this past season. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Man. It's like, I feel like that's not worth it,
But I don't know. I'm maybe a project yet.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Not worth it at all. That's why sometimes you got
to go beyond the stats. We can't sit here and
tell you that Aaron Rodgers was the worst quarterback or
even think he was the worst.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Either of us say worst quarterback, or we just said
it didn't work out like I was supposed.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
To, didn't at all, Like it was not a success.
And you could look at the numbers all day. There's
no way anyone in the right football mind can convince
you it was a success. In New York. It wasn't.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So did you know that Xavier Worthy and the Super
Bowl E set the rookie record for most receiving yards
and a Super Bowl? Did you do you know that?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
But any chance I didn't, I know it now. Yeah,
but that didn't matter at all to the matter. Stats
are not you have to Stats are good, but they're
not bad. I mean, they happened, right, But you have
to also have contacts behind them.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Like I could tell you Xavier Worthy had that great
day and you'd be like, man, the Chiefs must have
played No, I mean, no, he played well. If he
needs the ball more, I would argue he should have
had the ball from the beginning of the game. Yeah,
and he certainly made some great plays. But the last
touchdown was against backups Like I had that to me?
Is you know as so?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Like and think about that too, Jeff or how many
times were the Jets out of contention in a game?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And it changes the coverage that Aaron Rodgers going to
see that that factors into the stats too.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Of course it does. So that's why I think, Yeah, Yeah,
the numbers were there. I mean like Russell Wilson's numbers
aren't terrible. But I mean, come on, he's not yeah
good at the NFL quarterback right now, so our starting quarterback. So, like,
the point is that Rogers is held to a very
high standard because he is a Hall of Fame quarterback
and you know, he went to m VPS before showing
(04:45):
up in New York and that standard was not upheld
with it. Now, there's many reasons why it's not all
his fault. I feel like the you know, the the
offensive line wasn't great at times. You know, he might
have brought his friends in, but the weapons weren't always
the best, right, I mean, it's not But again it's
in the end though. He's judged for his performance and
he's supposed to be this franchise changing type player and
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we just didn't see it last season in New York.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Man, I'll tell you what. The comparison that did not
age well at all was Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.
Do you know how many years, Jeff, like, the top
ten quarterback list would come out and how many years
did it was like a consistent thing where the masses
(05:34):
had Rogers over Tom Brady. Yeah, it's like that. That
comparison is absolutely dead. I never want to hear that
comparison again, and it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
How we know it's not one thing that came outterable
Sunday about comparisons. By the way, I am shocked. I
guess I'm not shocked. Shouldn't be shocked in social media
and takes the amount of people that are like that,
are that are putting dirt on the grave of mahomes career.
(06:04):
My man is twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
We do realize that, right, He's twenty nine years old
and in seven seasons as a starter, he has been
to to seven Answer Championship games, and he has been
in five Super Bowls and he's won two three of them.
I should say he's three and two. He's a three
(06:29):
time Super Bowl MVP. He's a two time League MVP.
He is as good as we always thought he was.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Did he play his best game on Sunday? Absolutely not.
But it feels like we sort of are just always
picking and choosing what we decide matters for legacy. The
thing that I've never understood Brian about in this legacy's
gotch this will believe into like Lebron and Jordan and
I know, I think you're a Jordan guy. But is
the idea that like Jordan' six and O one finals,
(06:58):
but Lebron's been a ten finals, Like where where are
the other finals Jordan's been to? And with you know,
the Tom Brady thing, It's like, you know, why why
do we never take into consideration losses before before getting
to that game? We don't do that with with Brady ever.
We don't do that with Jordan ever, because that does matter.
And Mahomes doesn't lose many playoff games, and when he has,
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it's they've been in overtime and you know, or in
a super Bowl obviously, and he might have stretches where
he loses the wild card, right, I mean, next year,
I think it's gonna be hard for the cheer. I
don't think we're gonna se the same Chiefs team. But
we just do not consider those games when it comes
to legacy. I think we sort of should, like the
legacy matters every year, not only Super Bowl. So we
have talked about where they are as a you know,
(07:42):
as a team in a given year. So it just
frustrates me that that's the way we do it. But
also we get the Tom Brady loss as a two
touchdown favorite in the Super Bowl. He wanted to be fair.
He did want as a two touchdown underdog his first year,
but he did lose as a two touchdown favorite. I
see the number. You know, people thought, well, he only
(08:04):
lost through super bowls by fifteen points. Yeah, but one
of them he was a two touchdown favorite scored fourteen points, right,
So it's it's so, I don't know, I think we're
I think sometimes we cherry picked the stats and we
want to use.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, you know. You know what's funny though, is a
lot of similarities between this latest super Bowl with Mahomes
and that Super Bowl forty two with Brady where they
only scored those fourteen points, Like you're like you're talking
about where the consistent theme was pressure. Like the Giants
(08:37):
against the undefeated Patriots were all over Tom Brady. Yeah,
the Eagles were all over Mahomes and parallel. Yeah, had
a big impact on that game. I just can't get
over Mahomes in Super Bowl fifty five against Tampa when
he didn't have his starting offensive.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Attach, it was much better than he was.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Kay, He's running for his life. He was sensational that game.
He was drunk against the Eagles. I've never seen him
play at first half as badly as he did. But
I like you can say that without going off the
deep end in terms of legacy or where he's headed next.
I think you can say both, Like he did not
play well at all, But that doesn't mean this is
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what we got going forward. It doesn't mean that at all.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It doesn't And of course, like that's the what we
do in sports talk radio, right, we just sort of
just set these narratives. No, Mahomes did not play well.
I think that they went at the game being very
fearful the pass rush, not being proactive with like the
pass rush right, like you have to you know sometimes
just you know say okay, it's gonna be bad, but
let's it's not a game playing around. I think they
(09:44):
just went into the game very fearful. But yeah, the
Mahomes discussion, Guys, they're gonna be fine. The Chiefs are.
You have more opportunities of this, Probably not next year
in my opinion that Nick, there's probably not that season.
But discussion about this it's been so lame. I mean
it's been so lame.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
It's been for me, it's been more about the Chiefs
collectively than Mahomes. I haven't heard, and I'm not disputing
what you're saying, right, I know the anti Mahomes stuff
is out there, but I've heard much more anti Chief stuff.
And to me, it's like, yeah, it's like losing the
Super Bowl the way they did to the Eagles. It's like, well,
(10:21):
this is a cautionary tale, major warning signs. The arrow
is pointed down, Like, I'm like, they they have Mahomes. Yeah,
well what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Look, I mean I think that people are tired of
the Chiefs, which I understand, right, And the way they
lost was so jarring that we immediately turned to that, right,
like this is never going to work again.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Jeff, think about the Broncos. Remember the Broncos got crushed
by the Seahawks. They want a Super Bowl two years later?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yep, No, you're right, but I think it is worth
mentioning like the Chiefs are a little bit of a
reset year in my opinion. When you look at at
Travis Kelsey, I think he retires. I've said this for weeks,
it's not anything new, and listening to him on his
podcast this week, it sounds like that's a possibility, right,
(11:18):
He talked about just sort of the grind of every
sort of every which is again it's like, that's the
hard part about about you don't play National Football League.
It's it's not just it's it's in every it's an
every week thing, right.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
And I think it's also because he's talking about not
being the player he once.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Was, which.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But that's the part where you're like, wow, he really
could walk away.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So I think the hard part about that discussion from
his perspective, because I again I think he's you know,
he's easily the best pat catching tight end of all time,
is that.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
He did not play well on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's up there with his worst game ever. I mean,
it was it was. It was not good. He looked old,
he looked disinterested.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I do want to hear. Yeah, the first.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Play he the first ball he got thrown was behind
him and that and he got but he got he
got hit right in the ribs, in the lower back.
I do wonder if that made him a little bit
certainly fair to to maybe think that. But still, I mean,
his past paction was bad. It's just he looked very
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out of it in this game. And the Chiefs in general,
I thought looked tired. Now, the reason that they looked
tired is also the Eagles just beat out of him.
But they looked like a team that for two weeks
thought about their legacy. And again, it's certainly fair to
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say that without Kelsey next year was offense look like.
But I want to remind you guys, the first three
weeks of the season, yeah, Rare she Rice had twenty
nine targets and twenty four catches.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He was on targe. He was on pace for some
ridiculous numbers.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Man, So the Chiefs were already preparing for this. Yeah,
but then he got hurt and then Hollywood Brown got
her in the preseason like they went you know, Juju Smith,
Schuster and DeAndre Hopkins were not supposed to be starting
in the Super Bowl for them, right, But that was
not the plan this season. Xavier Worthy got really good,
you know, the last six weeks of the season. So
Xavier Worthy Race she Rice a couple of times in
the offensive line they have to make and they're just
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right where back where they need to be. And so
the idea that they can't come back from this again
there's a transition. Per they're going to probably lose their
middle linebacker and their safety and they got a draft
but you know, well again and developed these players. But
the idea that they're like done for to me, I mean,
it's crazy, seems so silly to me. If you hope
that and you're not you know, I get if you're
not Che's fan, that's what you want.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But right right, they're good, reasonable, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Going to be around for a while. I do wonder
if that Travis kelce does like a see Andy Reedson
old people, Andy reads an old school coach. People are
gonna say, you know, is Travis Kelsey gonna be sort
of on a pitch count this year? Right? Like if
he plays right? Like sort of how Gronk was the
end of his career where you know, in just a
couple of weeks a year, he didn't really see what
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he was actually playing, and then he would show up
for a game or two and then Andy Reid is
not a type of coach in my mind to tell
or to to basically be okay with Travis kelcey sort
of uh, not giving his full effort every week. And
they're never gonna cut on Brian. They're not gonna go
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and cut him. But I do wonder how that discussion
happens this off season because he's not He's just not
the same point. He's No, it's not a slight of
Travis Kelsey. He's a first Battle Hall of Famer, best
receiving ten end of all time, not not the same
player anymore. They cannot rely on him to be that
guy every week because if they do, it's really gonna
be detriment to the offense moving forward.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, this could be it for all the reasons that
you mentioned. The main thing on the opposite end is
maybe Kelsey just says, I don't want that to be
my last game. Yeah that's performance.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So people have said that, and my pushback on this,
Brian is like, yes, it's easy to say that, right,
but you think about sort of like all I gotta
do to get back to the super Bowl for.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
The FO Sure, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And like sort of like maybe your rational part of
your brain takes over. It's like that's just not this
is not doable.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Like maybe maybe it is. You know what. It reminds
me of one of my guitar friends. Okay, so there's
a real quick story. This guy's a great guitarist, went
to school for like orchestra type stuff like this whole thing.
And then he was doing the cover songs. He was
in a cover band and he's playing like these, you know,
like pop songs or whatever, and you know, at heart
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he's more like a punk guy, like all these underground
slabs of music, and and anyway, he finishes for doing
this cover stuff for years and whatever the last song was,
it was like I don't know something from some pop
artist and he's like, this just can't be it. This
just can't be the way I end. Like my guitar career,
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I'm serious, like I hear you to ramp it up
and to go through all of the wear and tear
training camp. He's talked about all these deep playoff runs
they had.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
They play a lot of choose to play a lot
of football.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Absolutely so I could see him saying, look, man, I've
had a great career, I'm dating a famous woman. I
have more money that I can spend in my lifetime.
This is the time for me to go. It wouldn't
shock me at all. But on the other end is
I don't want to go out like that. I can
absolutely see that being the road toward a possible year
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back again, right, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Us don't get the opportunity to just go out how
we want. I mean, that's the National Football League. The
money things A fun discussion quickly. Okay, So Travis Kelsey
has been underpaid for most of his career. He's gonna
pay look a wide receiver, he's due like eighteen million
this year. Like he's due a lot of money. And yes,
he's made a lot of money off the field, and
like that's certainly fair to bring up and whatnot. But
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I could see him just being like, I want that
eighteen million dollars. I'm gonna So I thought about the
ways that Chiefs can pay him without him playing this year,
Like would they do him a solid? I don't know
they would do this. It's very unnfl Like it's basically
be like, we'll pay you to not play this year.
So there's a couple of ways, right. One is, obviously
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they just give a big bonus. They convert that that
base salary to a bonus, and then he retires, so
they pay him the bonus and he retires and they
just like call it a day. Basically, that's certainly an option.
The other way is just uninjured reserve. But then that
counts against the cap for the season, like they you know,
the plan is like we're just going to pay him
out basically because we think he deserves the money. Yea,
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you know the bonus ways that the bonus ways the
way to do it right. We just give them, you know,
you convert that base salary and then you cut them.
And because I feel like he again, he's been paid
like a tight end, which is less than a wide receiver.
Though he's more of a wide receiver than a tight end.
So his career earnings wall a lot I'm not comparing
to the job, are not really like what he should
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have made for his career. So I do wonder if
there's some some fun little accounting for the Chiefs to
do here to say, hey man, look, we don't want
to cut you, but like we got to move on,
like it's time to move on. And part of that
is we'll find a way to give you some money
and then we'll part ways because it's time. It's time,
like it's time for the Chiefs, and I think Travis
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is awesome, but they got to find new offense now.
And again I wonder if that is as simple as
you know, Travis, like you gotta we gotta find a way.
This is New England, right check with cut him in
a heartbeat.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Oh absolutely, be artless man. Hey. Coming up next on
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, We're live from
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We'll compare notes with a few different teams coming up.
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Speaker 3 (19:29):
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Speaker 4 (19:43):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No. We're in for Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe live from the Tyrack
dot Com studios here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, Jeff, So,
I want to know what you think about these these
NFL teams and if they they're gonna run it back
with their current quarterback, are they going to go in
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a different direction like the Jets just did with Aaron Rodgers.
Jets are a great example. They're like, we don't know
what we're gonna do. But we know it's not gonna
be Aaron Rodgers. We'll figure it out. Okay, So should
these other teams maybe do the same thing. I know
you love this quarterback, Derek Carr. What do you think
the Saints do? Do they run it back with Derek Carr?
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Or they say you got Kellen Moore different directions? No
chance with Derek Carr.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You're saying, I think there's no chance? Okay, Wow, well again,
I say this all the time coaches at new general managers,
new coaches like they have their own quarterback. Now, obviously
with the cap situation, they're not to keep them. I
don't know. But the fact is they have no allegion
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to Derek Carr. He's not a good quarterback. He takes
up a ton of money in the cap. Why have him?
Why just it? Why?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I'm just laughing because I don't know what happened. Like
I get it, like Derek Carr is not upper echelon.
I'm not telling you he is, But I don't know
what happened. Somewhere along the way, Derek Carr just ruined
an eight leg round robin of yours or something crazy
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happened where you've been so anti Derek Carr. It seems
like there's a story behind it. You know, Am I
wrong on that?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
There's no story. I don't think he's very good.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But no, there's no story. It's something he's good. Yeah,
that's it. I don't have any that's all I wish.
I wish I had a better, better story than that,
but I just don't have. I don't have that for you.
I tell you, I just don't think he's good quarterback.
And I think we confuse, like officially sometimes with him
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with being good and just he's not. So that's that's
that's why.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Well I think, yeah, okay, let's throw a couple other
teams out here. How about this is similar because you've
got a new head coach in town? Yeah, Jacksonville. There
have been rumors, right the Steelers have been interested in
Trevor Lawrence. The Steelers have disputed those rumors.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, I understand they don't. How can there be trade
talks and he's not there's no actual general manager. That's
that's why I sort of understand those rumors being bs.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Right right right now that kind of need a general
manager to have Colin shod conn.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Liam Cohen is in charge of it. The way the
way that they acted about getting him, it sounds like,
I mean there he like goes to the box and
he must be the best coach of all time the
way that he got this job. Uh so okay, So
my thing on Lawrence is I mentioned again coach quarterback
they're liking in their own guys. I could see them
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trying to make it work with Lawrence for a year
because he's he is, at least on paper like he's
not talented.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Right, I agree with them. And look at Leam Cohen
with Baker and they try to.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Make it work, and they try to make it work
in the situation and if it doesn't work, then they'll
they'll move on.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Right now, I agree with that, dude. We can always
get that in there, right How about how about the
Seahawks they running it back with Geno Smith again or
they're like, look, man, we're only so good, let's try
to get better. Is this you tell me if this
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is a decent compared I think it's decent. Is it not?
Like the Chiefs with Alex Smith, Like we're good, We're
we're winning games, but we're not going anywhere? Is that
not where the Seahawks are right now with Gino?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yes. The only problem is this is not a draft
where like you're finding you know, a replacement, like an
immediate upgrade. I mean think about also, I'll give I'll
give him a shot out a Dame Brugler, who I
think does a great job for.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
The athletic fantastic job. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
He mentioned on a podcast yesterday with Robert Mays that
this might be the first year in X amount of
years that we have more Day two quarterbacks than Day
one quarterbacks. So the day that means we have more
quarterback drafter than the second and third round than the first round.
Because at the moment, you really just have two, right
you have you have, you have cam Ward, and you
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have your standards. Look, you might get a Jackson Dark
State there, but like that's not really a great choice.
I think if you're looking to like immediately you know
have a winning type team, right, So if you're Seattle,
you know, another one more bridge year. Gino does feel
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like the best option at the moment because the veteran
market's not great.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Sam Darnold, It's kind of like, uh, I hear.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You when you roll back with you know, for one
more year maybe.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
But it reminds me a little bit of a little
bit of the Broncos just in terms of they had
They're on the hook for all this money with Russell
Wilson and they're just like, yeah, we're not doing that,
And I say, okay, well what are you doing. They're like,
we don't know, We'll figure it out. And they ended
up with bow Knicks and at least but for one year.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
But but Brian bow Knicks would be the second quarterback
drafted in this class probably. I mean, you have a
discussion between him and cam Ward as number one pet
I think they're both better than than Shauldure.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
So you think it would be what do you think
the order would be if bo was part of this group?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I think he cam Ward won, bow Knicks two should
do three?
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Interesting, what do you think? I mean, it's possible. It's
hard to get in the mind of these gms, and
we're so early in this process. Yea, yeah, like April
fourteenth compared to February fourteenth. Oh yeah, yeah, it's so different,
Like two months from now, it'll be like, oh whatever,
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the guy right like.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No, you're I mean Kim wore I think is very easily,
like the most talented of the two quarterbacks, Shoulder is
more refined right now, and like if you bring in Should,
you probably have a guy who's ready now much sooner.
But Kim Moore just physically is a different quarterback than Should.
Has got better army, moves better, so there's more accurated.
But I think the upside for Schadur is not there
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as with cam Ward. But again I think it's a
big head and miss with I mean bo Nicks, it's
twenty four like is what he was? You know what
I mean? But the point is that you know they
got Bownicks as the fifth quarterback of the first sixth
quarterback of the first.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Round, Yes, the first round, six sixth one.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You know you're not There's no six quarterbacks in the
first round this year. That's why I think for Seattle,
I like your idea of that. But Gino is also
better than Russell Wilson, and I think you just say, well,
you know, we'll give you that that one plus one deal,
right essentially, we're you know, we'll give you one year
and we'll play a second year on there. And that's
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how we'll treat this season. If you're Seattle.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah, that would be interesting to see how it plays out,
because some of these teams are like, Hey, what we're
doing right now isn't working, and we'll just figure it
out as we go along, and maybe there's an opportunity
that presents itself that's legit, and maybe there isn't. Right.
I think some teams think we have to have a
legitimate option before we jump, and I get that thinking too.
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So we'll see some of these teams that they like
the Seahawks, could easily think all right, we're only so
good with GINO, but are we improving by moving on right?
Like that's a legitimate question you have to ask, Oh.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I agree, I I you know what's searching about these
discussions to me and Brian a lot. They're also they're
fun to have, but it does lead me to think,
and there's been talk about this, the NFL calendar has
to change where fregency is after the draft, Like, wouldn't
that change a lot of these discussions because Seattle, right now,
you know, it's decided like, oh, well do we do
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we like? What do we do? And do we have
to you know, because if you have the opposite direction
where you have the draft of forfeit agency would probably
make their decisions much much cleaner, right, because we'll just
go get you know, well, if we don't get a quarterback,
we'll just sign Jo Smith back.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It makes it this and this is the fun about
team building and makes it difficult. You don't know what
you're gonna get in the draft. But that's if Seattle
where they're sitting right now with the draft they're not
getting I mean, Jackson Dart is the only option probably
to have it there, maybe maybe like a Tyler Shuck,
I guess. I mean it's not great, Brian. So that's
why I think that you're gonna end up a situation
where the see Seattle like has to sign Geno back
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because there's not great great choices.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh. The Shock is an interesting guy too,
because there are some people that are pretty high on him. Yeah,
they're really high.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
It's like, yeah, I think people get really intoxicated with traits.
They can fix guys and Shuck, I mean he's a
trades guy. Has also been to like eight schools sound
a lot. Yeah, Like if you're that good, are you?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
You know?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The counter that is obviously cam Ward, but he was
incarnate word first, like I understand incarnate word washing at Miami.
Shuck was at Orgon that was his first stop. Oregon
and then Texas Tech and then Louisiana. Like a lot
of places to be at to be considered, like a
you know, if you're that good of a quarterback, maybe
one transfer. You know you're not playing somewhere, you transfer
somewhere else, but multiple transfers. That was gonna believe you,
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you're probably just okay, right.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I think these other two teams they got to have
someone new, do they not Steelers? You would agree with that, right,
most likely someone yeah? Please Titans? Oh yeah, moving on right.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Oh, Brian Callahan was very over.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He was over it in a week five.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It was done, he was he was done. Yeah yeah absolutely. Tennessee, yes, absolutely,
but you know Tennessee's a drinking.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Like they're picking number one.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah right. Yeah. So here's here's the thing about you
know the NFL. Obviously, like there's two, there's there's two.
There's basically two decisions to be had when drafting and
bullying a rostergether right, There's there's the the decision for
the front office that should that this is big picture, right,
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and there's a decision about roster from the coaching perspective
that sees the near future. Because if you're Brian Callahan,
who just got that job, you know, as the head
coach before last season, you probably can't go four and
thirteen this season, right, But you also might not like
like cam Ward and might not like sur and you
(30:59):
think the best player to get is Abdull Carter or
get Travis Hunter. And that's decision they have to make
because again, like if you are Brian Callahan, you have
to win this year. Maybe you try to convince everyone
to draft Cam Moore, but he's really not the guy
the front office really wants for the long term. Because again,
you take Abdul Carter, who's the pass rusher from Penn State,
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by the way, and then you're just like you're good,
You're good at defensive end, like you're like you're set
at a premum position National Football League. You have one
of the better young players. And then next year is
when you go invest in the quarterback. But I can
see them saying, like, we gotta win now. It's why
the Giants to Matt Stafford rumors, it's like the Giants
have to win immediately. Are they're getting all fired. Matt
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Stafford does nothing, nothing at all for the long term
future for Brian Dable and the Giants. That's just that
would be.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
A short term totally. Yeah, it's but you could look
at it the other side, look at the Patriots. They
need they need it and still do need a lot
of help with that roster, and they're like, we can't
pass up Drake May at number three.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
The Titans think about it like that, if they're.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Sold, if they like, if they think Kim Morton is
not going to have to draft them. But I don't
know if they think that, and I don't think and
I don't think that they should be beholden the thinking
that because they because you know, they might get fired,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
By the way, you mentioned Dane Brugler his work with
the Athletic. I was filling in for an Indianapolis station
a little while ago, and we're supposed to interview Dane Brugler,
right I'm doing a solo show.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
It was like, right before the interview, the producers like,
Dane can't make it. Oh no, And I don't remember
my exact words. Jeff, but it was something to You
could probably hear my heart breaking as I was saying
something like, oh oh really, no Dane, no Dane today,
something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Especially with it out with a solo show.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Oh dude, you really I would have just been throwing question,
what you think about this? What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Dad?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Dude? He covers stuff extensively. He does a really good job.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
He's fantastic. Yeah, but yeah, you need sometimes in some
of those moments. You need some of those uh you know,
the opportunity to uh to have those guests if you
have a solo show.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, no doubt about it. All right. He's Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Brian.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
No.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
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money here, Jeff, what are we doing with no NBA around?
Like goodness, we got to compare some notes over it here.
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and then an interesting sports story to say the least,
been a lot of build up, maybe not a whole
(34:07):
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Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio these
Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian know we're in for two pros
and a cup of Joe live from the Tireck dot
Com studios here on Fox Sports Radio. You know, Valentine's Day,
(34:27):
love is in the air, Jeff, it is also you
love making money via sports betting here right? Try yeah,
I try it now and then anything you're loving coming up?
No no NBA today kind of breaks my betting heart.
But we don't exactly have a star studded college basketball
(34:50):
lineup on Friday. Most lines not out for Saturdays. Limited
options right now?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Limited options? You know, maybe it's good just to like
take a breath and not wag on sports Today.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
What that's crazy talk?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Jeff?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
What are you saying?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You know you could you could go with some of
the MLB striking out under? Is the crack sent over?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Just there's there's never an off day?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Man?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Was it Belichick? No days off? He was talking about
Bill Krackenberger in sports handicapfing.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Just like today's a great day to wager on, to
wager on on strikeout props?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, I know, you know college basketball tomorrow shows something
will pop up.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Hey man, the one game, Jeff is Auburn at Alabama. Yeah,
that's there's a look aheadline we got.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Can you even take the under in this one? Just
go just go over?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
It's almost like the NBA All Star Game, you know,
like you just told what to take it under and
be wrong?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
What's it is? There? Is there a look and a half?
There's a look Remember this year was it Bama Kentucky?
That there was like one seventy five and then it
oh over BU.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
And I was on the over that one that you
knew that was going to be a track meet?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
What's the number for this game? Like the like the
the spread?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
The spread is Bama favorite at home by a point
and a half.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
You like the dog on the road Auburn is as.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I think they're just better.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
They're a wagon, they play some defense, and they're coming
off a recent loss like Florida smack.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, yeah, they blew out someone the other day.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Though at Vanderbilt, van.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
They're just they're more, They're a more complete team. Like
Bama just plays a bunch of offense. They can't they
don't play any defense. So I will I'll tell you what.
There's there's a big difference in college basketball this season.
I feel like with sort of the SEC teams where
they look like the basketball player that Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee,
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Florida like they it looks different Kentucky versus you know,
Duke looks big because Cooper Flag. But I mean the
Big ten teams are just they're all losing in the
second round postseason.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
You know what's interesting too, while we're talking about potential
sports bets, so our guy Daniel Gafford of the MAVs,
he's out for at least six weeks. Dallas has like
no front court. All their dudes are injured right. Lively
is down, Anthony Davis is down, Dwight Powell is down.
(37:23):
You can get Dallas at plus money, like plus one
twenty five to miss the playoffs. Okay, that's an interesting
bet right now, they're in eighth place, they're in the
play in tournament. Who knows where it would go from there.
But what do you think about fading Dallas out of
the playoffs entirely? Would you go that far the promise?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Everyone in the NBA makes the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Except the Phoenix Suns, who are on the outside of
the play in looking.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
So, I mean, there are three games up on the Suns,
two in the lost column.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Jeez, but you got to play your way in. If
you're between seven and ten, you know what. But if
they slip down to ninth, then they only have one game.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
For this question, for this question though, for the for
the wager, is it counting once it doesn't have the
playing games because those are those playoff games.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
No, no, no, you're not technically in. That's you're you
have to read the fine print on the bet.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
But I would yes, Oh, then I would say probably.
Then I think that's a decent wager then to make.
I thought, if you make the ten, you're you're in.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
No, no, that you have to play your way in.
So I don't believe you would win your wager. If
you're like, oh, yeah, Dallas will make the playoffs and
they they lost in the play in there's no way
you would win that wager.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Okay, well then I feel a little bit different about
that then, Okay, yeah, not a bad wager then.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, maybe I don't know. I needed to be a
little bit more of a payout than just a little
more than even money.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
What about let's hear Indiana Fever to win the championship? Right,
one of those what do you what do you have
for a little little Genesis Invitational?
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Oh gosh, yeah, your guess is as good as mine.
We might be seeing some low scores. Scheffler, the same
golf course again is back? Yeah recently? I believe that's
the case.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
The scores were not that low yesterday. So I think
like four under was the best score yesterday. So Shuffler, though,
is right there?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
He's right U yeah, he's getting right. By the way,
what do you think about betting on this? So we
have Tyreek Hill of the Miami Dolphins racing. Noah Lyles,
would you put down any money on that?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I mean, is it one of those things where like
it's fixed like the Paul fights, Like.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Probably like a sixty yard dash, but it's gonna take
place sometimes the spring or summer. You're going Lyles. It
might be the right way to go, all right. Jeff,
good hanging with you, buddy. Sunday, You Sunday be there.
Happy Valentine's Day.
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