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Jeff Schwartz always good to be with you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I hope your morning is going better than the Lakers
last night, because your morning would be a wreck if
it was the equivalent of last night with your purple
and gold. Not a good way to start the second half.
Not a good way.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Not a good way for a second half, A great
way to start this morning with you and our listeners.
So good morning everyone, No morning is great. Got my coffee,
My my daughter, got me a You're never too old
to need your dad mug for Honika. Very sweet. So
I'm using my Yeah, my little eight and a half
year old. She still loves us. No, she still likes
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to snuggle and hang out. And I'm sure it's gonna
change one day, but I'm gonna that's I got my
little mug here and a little coffee and then yes,
I woke up this morning. I live on the East
Coast to a Lakers loss again. They lost to Utah
before the break and lost the Hornets last night. Who
stink they? It's the Hornets are not very good and
(02:00):
you can chalk it up, I think to obviously Luca
figuring out his role on the team. But I do
think that that hole in the middle of their team
at center is going to be a problem, right, Like
we know that and the answer was supposed to be
the guy that lot And so okay, what do we
know of the of the Charlotte Hornets. Uh, Basically, the
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challenge of the physical Like is I've never heard this before?
Is it like dead? Like? Are they that the Lakers
gonna end up with Mark Williams because the arbitrar decides
that he's actually healthy. I mean there's a weird thing
around this where the Hornets did not accept that he
felt his physical But look, the Lakers have plenty of
time to figure this all out. But you're right, when
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you trade for someone like Luca, I think you expect
immediate gratification. It just hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No, it hasn't. And Luca, I mean just trying to
find his legs. They should They showed him on the
bench and obviously during the game, and this guy is
just like beat you know, it stands out even more
I think wearing gold. I don't know if it's kind
of like you ever see those people that they're in
like a snowy area and they have like the little
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reflector they put up to their face, you know, to
get some That's what Luca looks like.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
He just beat Red.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I could just picture Nico Harrison like say, say like
non shape, say say say look at that guy and
he's just trying to find his conditioning. Here Luca shot
five for eighteen from the field. Yesterday he was one
for nine from three. But listen to the rebounds. Are
there eleven of them? The assists are there eight of them.
He's just got to find his shooting touch, which he will,
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but it is embarrassing. That was a standalone game for
the NBA and the Lakers start the second half by
losing at home to the Charlotte Hornets. I love the
call here on a Spectrum Sports net.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Listen to us.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It's always interesting listening to these guys because they do
a great job. But the very end where Stu Lance
puts like the little like the period on what happened
last night. It's not like the Hornets even played well,
that's the thing. Like they stunk and they still they
still ended up winning the game.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Here was the call at the end, Lakers are down
by three.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Here's Lebron gonna get a good lookout. Charlotte hold John
and wins on the road. A strange loss or a
strange win for the Hornets. You're on the road. You're
not a good road team by any stretch. You shoot
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thirty eight percent from the field and you win the game.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
When the Lakers came to Charlotte about a month ago.
I went to the game, and I've told you this, Brian,
A lot of fun. Lakers won. It was ad Was
had twenty one and eleven the first quarter. It was incredible.
But Stu Lance was was there obviously, who was the
longtime Lakers color guy. Yep. I was telling my buddy
that I was there with. I'm like, has been doing
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this with the Lakers longer than I've been alive. Wow,
he has been the Lakers. He's been the Lakers analyst
I think since like the early eighties with Chick hern
and then moved to TV eventually. But yeah, he's like
a thick. I mean, he's been there forever. It's kind
of a while to have that job for that many years,
considering like the travel on the road and all things
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that are required to be someone who travels with the
team and the eight team and he's gone every every
single you know, every week.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, limit thirty five years for Stu Lance and just
he and Bill Ricott.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I think it was a little bit wrong there. So
he's you're close. I had three years on him.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, you're a toddler, you know, you're a Toddler at
that time, and just Bill McDonald and Stu they've worked
together for this is their twelfth season, you know, like
I actually actually a little bit longer than that. So yeah,
you're right, No, this is you're right, jeff This is
like year thirty. You're completely right. Yeah, And those guys
have worked together for about fifteen years or so.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
They do a great job. I love the Lakers broadcast.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
If you would like you like coffee in the morning,
Jeffy you coffee guy at all? Oh yeah, yeah, big time. Okay,
well this is your splash of coffee. Uh via like
a play by play call. Eric Collins, who I love
is just complete energy.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
But this was the Charlotte Hornets call.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I love this because you can tell when Lebron is
open for a three instead of Charlotte fowling and he's
like he loses it for a second.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Check this out.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Lakers do not have a time out, but this is it.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The Lakers have to get it in.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
James Watson, Oh no, shut shit, your Charlotte Hornets.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Win here in La ye there you go, and uh,
Eric fantastic, he really does. And that's good especially for
a franchise. It's you know, just losing and losing. It's
good to have that positivity, you know, and they stand out,
like his calls are all over the place, a lot
of fun.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I enjoy him.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
But you know, what do you think about the Lakers
in the second half here as they you know, try
to get in position for the playoffs and beyond.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
What do you think about them?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And you mentioned like rent protection kind of an issue, size,
sort of an issue, frontline, big time issue, no A D.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So that's a big problem going forward right now.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well, look the way I look at the at the
NBA is like a lot of sports where if you
have sort of a veteran team and I'm not sure
Lakers have a veteran team. They have a veteran leader
right in Lebron and Lucas played a lot of basketball.
I mean they have guys that played ball, but they're
not I would say an oldish team, but they've done
the playoffs before. Is just you got to you gotta
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get in, right, Like, just get in and you can
figure it out. We've seen all over sports where that happens.
You know, you might not be playing your best ball,
but you get in and and you figure things out.
I think that's where the Lakers are right now, where
you know if you are, you know, Lebron and Luca.
Your goal from here until the end of the regular
season is figuring out a rotation that works for the postseason.
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Right It's figuring out you know, who gets the ball
in situations, figure out who does what and when. And
it's figuring out obviously you know who's playing defense in
the middle. How are we getting some work there inside?
And then enter the postseason feeling good about your team
because look, being the five seed, the sixth seed, as
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long as you're not to playing team, to me, it
does not matter, right. I Mean people will say, well,
you know they don't want to play a certain team
in the first round. But you got to play those
teams anyway at some point, right Brian, Like, you don't
have to play I think the Nuggets right now where
they put the Nuggets first, right who they cannot beat. Ever,
you have to play them at some point, right, Like
you have to beat the best story they're not, they're
not the best, but the team that you hear you
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can't just avoid everyone, right, So that's my goal for
the like is when you enter the postseason, you're feeling
good about where you sort of are as a team.
The seed, to me is less important than feeling good
about how things look with with Luca and with Lebron
and sort of your interior defense. Because they're a veteran team,
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like they've been here before, they don't have to have
the one seed. They don't have. The seed to me
is less relevant. I don't know how you feel about that,
but that's sort of where I sit with how I
think the Lakers have to be, which is, by the way,
a veteran team, like I've said about the Chiefs, like
just getting the postseason right. It doesn't matter where you are,
just get in. I feel that way a lot with
the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I hear you to a point because the only thing
is and I get it. I don't disagree with feeling
good about yourself and you know, clicking at the right
time and all that stuff. But the more that you
fall like that the game last night, you dropped half
a game when you're trying to get to the four seed,
like you're trying to surpass the Rockets, you know, like
getting the top four seed, that's that's good to have
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home court, like you're playing a best of seven series.
I'd rather be at home if we're facing the Rockets
then on the road, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Like, Uh, so, I hear you. I'm not disagreeing.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I just I wouldn't be as casual with seeding as
some teams are. Like to your point, some teams are
just like, Eh, who cares, Let's just get into the
tournament and get into the playoffs and feel healthy, and
that's more important than our seed. A lot more times
than not, it seems like that's the way they approach it.
But if you're giving me a choice between how you
get home court in the best of seven, or you
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don't get home court and the first two games are
on the road, I'd rather have home court.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Against Atlanta, though it feels like less important than maybe
like Denver, right, because I mean Atlanta to me, they've
not been in the spot before. How good are they
going to be in this situation. I feel like, if
you know Denver, obviously you cannot beat. I think having
one extra game at home will probably feel a little
bit better for you. So that's again I agree with you.
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It is home court. Home field doesn't matter most in basketball,
so I think it does, right because the officials. I
know that there's numbers out there that say it might
not influence them that much, but very clearly, if you're
at home, you get more calls. I think that's right,
that's that's the case. Because football, we've seen in the
NFL it matter less and less over the years. Right, home, brew,
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mantage baseball, it's baseball, no matter where you play. Hockey
does not seem to matter as much, but it does
seem like still in basketball matters a lot, right.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, I think so especially, Yeah, No, I think so absolutely.
Your home rims, the field, the backdrop. You know they're
bombing from three, you know. So I'd rather be at
home and feel more comfortable and more used to your surroundings.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The one in college basketball is crazy is they use
different balls depending on who your sponsor is at home.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, if you're a Nike team, you have a Nike
ball at home. You go playing Adidas team, you might
have a Wilson ball.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Wow. Yeah, it's kind of I.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Mean the same ball, but just like kind of crazy.
That's the way it works, it is.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It is wild like that.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And the loss last night, I couldn't help but think
of our guy Bill Krackenberger. Right, we work with him
on Sundays here on Fox Sports Radio for Countdown.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I didn't do it, Brian, you didn't.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
You didn't fade the Lakers in the second half here.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Against my rule.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, well, hey, that's your squad. I get that. Nothing
wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
But he took the season win total under after they
acquired Luca. And this is why crack is successful.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You know about the tonight the Blazers number.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Well, yeah, oh yeah, we're on the Blazers already tonight.
I haven't looked it. Do you know where it's at
right now?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm said over last night said take take him four
and a half. Take the the Blazers four.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I did. I jumped on it. It was it moved
to four.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But I'm like, yeah, whatever, yea three and a half now, okay,
So it's moving a little bit. Shockingly, he's on the
He's got the best of the number.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
That's weird.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That never happened, But yeah, he's on the Lakers. Before
last night's game, their season win total was at forty
nine and a half and going into the game they
were thirty two and twenty, which means if you're on
the over right they would have to go at least
eighteen and twelve down the stretch here, and so they
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lose last night and they're gonna have to go eighteen
and eleven to hit the over. So if you're on
the under, last night's result was beautiful. They lost to
a bottom feeder team and the Hornets. They're tied with
Phoenix for the hardest strength of schedule remaining, so under
on the Lakers might end up being the right side.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So but he had forty seven. He got a bad
number though, right because he took it to start the season.
So I have not played the Sixers one yet. Have
you done that yet?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I did? Yeah, I played that one.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I think the Sixers they're gonna tank, you know, and
Beads talking about his knee, and at some point they're
gonna be like, okay, cool, so we're killing ours to
be a play in team. And then what I think
they're gonna just say the heck with it here and
they start with the Celtics, you know, So I don't
they're gonna have to go listen, their record right now
is twenty and thirty four. They would have to go
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fourteen and fourteen to hit the over. Thirty three and
a half. I know it's a lot of numbers, but
they're fourteen games under five hundred, and they'd have to
go fourteen and fourteen down the stretch and embeedd as.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Jacked up me and that's unlikely.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, I just I don't know. I'm fading them.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
More importantly, are team USA tonight? Like? Are we put
all our money in USA tonight?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I'm all Canada tonight, my friend.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Sorry, I actually think that that's the right wager to make. Yeah,
but I'm not anti American like you are, so I'm
not I'm.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Not anti American at all. But what does our guy
crack say all the time? My allegiance is to my
bank role.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Canada got so smoked the other night. I just don't
think it's gonna happen again.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I the three to one game, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Think regulation draw might be an interesting bet. I gotta
see what that would Maybe.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
The one thing I keep coming back to is this
is the ultimate spot. They always say this emotion is
your enemy in sports batting, and this is the ultimate
emotional spot. You know, these freaking Canadians are booing our anthem.
You're like, ah, gott USA, but you stop for a second,
put the emotion to the side, and you think they've
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beaten Canada once in the last what fifteen years? You
have to go all the way back to the twenty
ten Olympics to find a win for Team USA against Canada.
So very rare, very rare. I'm not sure lightning strikes
for a second time. It's gonna be a great game.
I can't wait for it. I'm gonna be all over
watching this thing. And that's that's not common for me
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when it comes to hockey. But you talk about a
great job of selling this thing. Oh my lord, Jeff,
you had Connor McDavid. He's like, it feels like a
Game seven of the Stanley Cup Final. It's as big
of a game as you're ever going to play in.
And I think the Canadian accent really like brings it home,
like this is this big time stuff. They've done a
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tremendous job selling this thing.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
They have. It's they got it. And again, like we
talked about this the other day on our Sunday show,
you had NBA All Star Weekend, which if you watched it,
you must be a huge NBA fan. Good good for you.
I did hit my wager though, which was fine. Oh yeah,
I did do the the team shack wager that there's
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just no way that like and it needed three from
Dame to hit it close. Yes, yeah, yeah it was.
It was six and a half. But and then you
have you know what essentially is an NHL All Star weekend, right,
Like they replaced All Star Weekend with four Nations and
you got dudes just throwing haymakers to start the game
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and right right, just like just so into so intense,
and then you have the NBA All Star Game and
it's just not the same vibe, right, And that's why
hockey is getting the ratings that they are. So yes,
I also will probably be on first period over tonight
as well. That's I think hitting every four Nations game
so far.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Would that still be like a goal and a half?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, it's always a goal and half.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, you in the first ten on the first.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I gotta look that up. I don't that's I think
that's hit ever game. This is, yeah, but that's always pricey,
that's always you know, mis one fifty. I mean it's
paying a little bit of tax there on the one
goal in the first ten. So we'll see. But I'll
have money on that game sight of course.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Okay, we'll talk about that a little bit more as
we go along. We got a lot to get to here, Jeff.
We got ball on the menu. Of course, you and
I are football junkies. The lot going on with the
franchise tags. Oh yeah, college football playoff you know, maybe
changing here of course, some hoops. We'll look to the
biggest second half story lines. Serious, if you put together,
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like everybody listening, put together your top three NBA storylines
the second half here as we march toward the playoffs,
what would they be?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You know?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And then we got to talk about Alabama's lockdown defense
last night against Missouri. Allowing one hundred and ten points
in a college basketball.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To Missouri last night. I mean, they plays this wy
you can't trust them with They played no defense.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, man, that was You can't allow one ten in
a college basketball game and be a serious threat to
win it all.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
But they scored ninety eight themselves.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Right, I know it.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Their offense is lethal, but it's just you gotta have
some defense, you know, And there are games where there's
just nothing all right. Coming up next, we get to
an indecent proposal. I absolutely hate this idea. We'll see
what Schwartz has to say about it. We're in for
two Pros and a Cup of Joe here. He's Jeff Schwartz.
(18:53):
I'm Brian No. We're live from the tirerack dot Com
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It is Fox Sports Radio, Two Pros and a Cup
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Speaker 4 (19:16):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
We're in for the guys here on Fox Sports Radio,
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You know, I got some bad news, Jeff. This was
terrible this morning. Was driving and had a chance to
stop for some donuts. I'm back home just until tonight, right,
I fly back to Vegas tonight. But I'm at home
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and there's this grocery store, Martin's grocery Store, and they
have these donuts.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Jeff.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Jeff's so good man. So I'm like, all right, I
think I've got a little bit of time. If not,
Schwartze can do the first hour. Fine, you know, let's
go team donuts here.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I'm kidding. It's gonna make it. But it's gonna close
you though, So I mean, I get it right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So I race in. They have the little side door entrance.
It's really close to where the donuts are. Just kind
of sneak in, get them boom. I'm out before you
even know it. And there's a little sign side door
entrance only good from six am. There's no side door
entrance that's open. Jeff, the dream is dead, not gonna
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happen this morning, no donuts to wake me up, very sad,
and by time I get over there, they.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Might be picked over pretty good. It's my last chance.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That is how I know you're not a fat guy,
because a fat guy with myself would have already looked
up the time open, known whether or not the donuts
were available to myself at before six am. Okay, the
research would have already like I would have. I would
have that place have been scoped out. I wouldn't know
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the exact time that the the donuts are out of
the oil or out of the however they make them,
fry them, bake them, whatever they do. What time they
were glazed?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Okay, yeah, so this is so.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I played for the Chiefs in twenty thirteen. It was
Andy Reid's first year in Kansas City. Okay, and it's
a Memorial weekend. So we're at the airport ready to go.
It was flying back to Charlotte and Andy Reid's wife,
Tammy was It was in the airport. She came up
to me and said, Hi, I'm you know, I'm Tammy Reid.
I'm coach Read's wife. I had not met her yet.
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She's fantastic, and she goes, hey, Andy's over here. We're
like waiting to fly to I don't know, Santa Barbara.
We have like a house somewhere, like come say hi.
So again, this is like my first conversation with Coachrie.
I'm a I'm a third wave free agent. Okay, so
I signed like a month after Phragency started a low priority.
I'm not thought to the head coach those trips, Brian
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like when you're a third wave free agent. So there's
three ways a phrag ye, right, there's a first wave.
Oh my god, all the money I was one year,
I was one of those guys second wave, you know,
you sort of sign the second week afraid to ship it.
I mean that one time. Third wave is you show
up a Scott picture from the airport, you do a physical,
and then you just get signed. You don't mean anyone,
like nothing, just the lowest priority. He's signing possible. So
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I had not really talked to coach read. So we're
talking in the airport and he gets into Kansas City
Barbecue and he told me the zact times that the
burt ends were finished at a certain restaurant. Yeah, what
times the ribs the best time to eat the ribs
another restaurant. He was so locked in to the minute
(22:39):
details of when the barbecue was the best to eat,
what place to get certain cuts of meat at. It
was the most impressive conversation I ever had with the
head coach in the National Football League. So and it
reads the best continues to be the best. But he
he is a cond of story of See that's that's
a fact. Guy move like that. That's why the nose
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you have to learn from us.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
He's prepared, you know, he's not just showing up hoping
to get lucky. He's doing the research. He's doing the
leg work all of that stuff. Yeah, no doubt. All right,
I gotta get your thought here, thoughts.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Maybe you only have one thought. I don't know. I'm
assuming of plural, you know, multiple thoughts here, but one
just what the indecent proposal of college football?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
What they're talking about with the college football playoff format.
So we'll get to the seating in a second, which
I think makes sense. But what has caught my attention
is this push for automatic qualifying spots. So the Big
Ten is really pushing for this. We're looking at expanding
the playoff from twelve teams to fourteen teams, but the
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Big Ten especially, they're all about these automatic qualifiers for conferences.
So what the Big Ten once they want four guaranteed
spots for Big Ten teams, there would also be in
this popular model for guarantee spots for the SEC you
would get two spots for the Big twelve and the
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acc right two spots apiece, so that leaves one spot
for the highest ranked group of five champion and you
get one at large spot one. Everything else would be guaranteed.
So with this popular model we would be going to
right now, it's twelve teams seven at large spots, and
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we would expand it to fourteen teams with one at
large spot, Like, what are they?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I hate the idea.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Of having anything guaranteed because there are gonna be certain
years where one of these teams that gets a guaranteed spot,
whether they're in the any of the Power four conferences,
they wouldn't make it if not for the automatic qualifier.
And that sucks. That is not what college football is about.
It's just these conferences trying to cover their own butts
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and be guaranteed with automatic qualifiers. I freaking hated. I
don't want any part of that model.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
As someone who's a lifelong Big ten fan, uh this
is why you know the Big Ten is so popular?
No I uh? I? So when when the expansion happened
last off season right essentially where it happened in a
couple of stages, but it finished last off season where
they had to see expanded. The Pac twelve was essentially
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blown to smithereens and and you know got a Zora
by the Big Ten and by you know, the by
the Big twelve. It always felt like we were going
to get to a place with two super conferences, right, Brian,
where you have you know, some some combination of of
SEC and Big ten as one conglomerate and everyone else
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as a second tier essentially, and this is the first
sort of way to get there, right as you start
allowing the two major conferences, the SEC and the and
UH and the Big ten to control the playoff form
and essentially I was supposedly I should say, they actually
do have an in writing that they control the format
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moving forward, so they have the power to do to
to do it. So I'm not surprised they're wielding it
in this way, but I will say I'm with you here, like,
just make the top twelve teams, Like, how hard is
this to do? I don't really understand the just the
top twelve teams. Just make it's it's not that hard
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just to twelve teams the twelve by teams the country.
You guys are in the playoff, I I you're you're.
The thing about it, Brian, is very rarely do you
have a season where one of the top twelve teams
in the country is undeserving while the thirteenth is more
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deserving and they're gonna win a champion. Because the goal
in the end of this whole thing guys. So this
often is we want to find a champion who's the
best team in the country or one of the best teams, right, Like,
we don't want You're not gonna end up with in
collegeo ball with the thirteenth best team winning. Anyways, and
last year we got there, Ohio State was the best team.
They had some some flaws, you know, Michigan game and
and and they lost organ by one, but they were
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clearly when when playing their best, the best team in
the country. Okay, that's the goal of the playoff. So
to me, guaranteeing automatic berths is not really finding the
best teams to win a championship, right, it's just helping
out the big ten in SEC. And again we argued
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last year about Alabama. Didn't make Alabama. They were't winning
a championship. Stop, you know, like that's the goals. The
whole thing is to win a championship. That is what
this should be about. And unfortunately it's often not about it,
which kind of stinks because I just think that's what
this should be about. It's what it's forced to win
a champion So I don't gotto menic qualifiers. It should
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just be the top twelve teams, and yeah, you might
have a year when it's succes SEC teams, and you
might have a year when it's you know, it's seven
Big Ten teams. I don't know. I mean, hey, college
basketball this year, if you did it college basketball, you
ended up with but Justice teams because they're the best
conference this year. That's just the way it works. In
a given year, one year might be the Big Ten
ACC one year might have four teams. It's unlikely, but
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that's just the way it is. And because of the
of the conference re alignment, like you're already getting the
standings that are reflecting that those two conferences are the best. Right,
look look at any preaching and standing. It's they're gonna
be SEC teams and Big Ten teams and Clemson and
maybe Miami and and you know, Kansas State every now
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and then. You're already getting this, Brian, right, you don't
have to make adjustments for it to change. So I
don't gotto medic qualifiers. It's gonna happen though, unfortunately, so
if you don't like it, that's what happens to you're irish.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Well, that's the.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Thing is, it's kind of good and bad because they're
talking about changing the seating and that part of it,
if it goes through, that would enable Notre Dame to
be eligible for a first round by you know, and
they're not.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
They're not eligible right now.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
You know, if they were one of the top four teams,
they still wouldn't be eligible. They have to play that
first round. So the seating could benefit them, but it's
like there'd be only one at large spot, so the
years that Notre Dame qualifies for that, they'd get the
one at large spot.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
And that's sim Yeah. But again, like Brian, that that
that part of not as upset about because again, who
is were are you essentially about what the fourteenth best
team in the country?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
To me, it's no, no, no, I don't think so.
Because hear me out on this. If we expand it
to they're gonna expand it to fourteen teams, right, we're
gonna go from twelve to fourteens. We'll start there. If
if they just did, like your idea, top fourteen teams,
I'm cool with that.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
If they said, hey, here's what we'll do.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
We'll guarantee that if you win your power for a
conference and if you're the highest ranked group of five champion,
We're gonna guarantee those five spots. Everything else those nine
there are nine spots that are at large spots, right.
That makes the chase for those at large spots a
lot more interesting. There's nothing that's as interesting as being
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locked in, you know, to automatic qualifying spots, you only
have one at large spot. I would rather have nine
at large spots at a minimum, And it's more fun
that way, where you're like, all right, this big twelve team,
Notre Dame, this big ten team, they're all trying to
get these remaining spots. There are nine chairs that all
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these teams are trying to sit down on when the
music stops. Instead, we're gonna have one at large chair
to see. That's dumb. I hate that idea.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
So all quite to what I felt last season as
the Organ fans, I went to orgon and because of
the playoff format and just how good Organ was last season,
it felt like like I was rooting for an NFL
team where based on the schedule and based on the
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way we were playing, well, I knew we were gonna
be a playoff team. We just there's like no suspense
at all. It was a matter of just sort of
like I mentioned earlier with NBA just getting the dance,
just organ how we playing at the end of the season,
how are we playing against Washington week twelve, how we
played Penn State and obviously didn't matter because we got
smoke about out State, But like my mind wasn't what
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it normally is any given season where it's like if
you lose one game, this is it, Like, don't lose
a game Oregon. It didn't feel that way all last
season for pro teams. So you're right, if we get
to a place where we have four automatic qualifiers for
the SEC and the Big Ten, so the way you
cheer for your team and think about wins and losses
will be much different because you're not going to be
as penalized if you have a loss or do which
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I think is okay to not to not be penalized
the same way we used to penalize teams for a
loss or two. But your point about again, like in
a given year, you might not have four Big Ten
teams that should be in the playoffs, And the goal
got to keep repreeting this because I think I think
we forget this about the posts and tournament. The goal
of any posts, and tournament is to find a champion,
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a worthy champion. It's not a participation tournament. I don't
think we need twelve teams or fourteen teams. I was
on with four now Ohio State probably gets screwed last season.
Oh well, but like that that is, don't we don't
need fourteen. I get well, they're doing it. It's for money.
So with you, Brian, I think that that should just
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be the highest twelve teams, no qualifiers except if you
win your conference, fine, you're in Fine. I agree with that.
And then of course, like the rankings got to be
fixed because you know, you can't situation last year where yeah,
this is the noble team in the country plays the
best team in the country right in its first game now,
and that seems like they're going to fix that in meeting.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, which they're totally reasonable about that. They're completely reasonable
about it. It's like, uh, Tony Pettiti, he's the big
ten Yes commissioner, He's like, uh, we're in favor of
going to straight seating where there's no difference between rankings
and seating like we had last year. We're in support
of that for next year. So it's like Okay, cool,
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we just see these teams just like the rankings.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
That's reasonable.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
But instead of like having the playoff teams themselves, like
I don't know, earn their way in, it's like we're
going to have thirteen of the fourteen spots be automatic
qualifying spots.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, it's it's not It's not the way it should be.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Again, I get why.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
We're doing it here.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I hate this because, look, man, the regular season. This
is is hurting the regular season, and the regular season
in college football is more meaningful than any other regular
season and they're messing with it with the stupid playoff format.
It's terrible, man.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The only thing I'll say is that is about that,
brother Bright, is that you shouldn't we we are. We
penalize teams for one loss way too much of college football.
It's hard to win football games, and I do think
that this format will at least it did last season.
As I mentioned with organ it does alleviate some of
(34:42):
that idea where you lose a game or two and
like your season is over. But I am with you
and the fact that the urgency of the football season, man,
is obviously much different now, right, Yeah, right, it's you're
not going to feel that same sense of like I
have to win every single game because if not, I'm
my season's basically over. But again, you're gonna lose a game.
(35:04):
I mean, go undefeated is hard. I think we think
like multiple teams do that every year. It's not true.
Only a couple of teams ever going to in a season.
And obviously we'd won last season. I was it. It's
it's hard to win every game. So I'm glad we're
at penalizing teams quite the same way. But I don't
even need to expand them. I don't need an NCAA
(35:25):
tournament to go to seventy sixty. Who cares for the
seventy six team is like, why? Why? Who? It's some
of these decisions, man. I know they're for money. I
get it, and we'll watch every second of it because
we're dummies.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
And given complain about it and then we'll watch.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But I don't. I just don't think that there is
a need for collagurable playoff expansion.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, well yeah, I'm okay if you go from twelve
to fourteen, fine, but if that's the format, no, thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
I prefer twelve all day.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Over fourteen, we go from twelve with seven at large
spots to fourteen with one at large spot.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It really is.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
And listen, there are some years where it's gonna work
out that way where it doesn't really matter with the
automatic qualifying spots. But there's gonna be a lot of
years where it doesn't correct, where you wouldn't have two
big twelve teams, you wouldn't have four, oh yeah, big
ten teams, right, like, So why have it like that?
Just earn your way in, just to earn your way
in instead of guarantee its. I freaking hate it, if
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you haven't noticed already, Jeff, it's I am.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm not a fan.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I'm going a strong agreement. I don't think all that
qualifiers to me is not get them out.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
It's not interesting, not interesting at all. All Right, he's
Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Know we're in for two pros and a cup of
Joe coming up next, Jeff, I've got half theory, half
question for you.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
You know, as I can tell you you're getting down
with some coffee right now.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I can hear that, yeah already, but not really new.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
No, that's good.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I thought I have age. I'm come upset, but he
the mug's not working.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I'll go half theory, half question for you, coming up
right around the corner.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Okay, we'll have some fun with this.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
We're in for the crew over here, live from the
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Speaker 6 (37:18):
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Speaker 4 (37:28):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm pribaan No.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
We're in for two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio, coming to you live from
the tire Rack dot Com studios. Jeff, We're doing a
full blown conversation next hour on def Leppard, the band
and how our producer Justin Cooper here today.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
He's just like, yeah, I never heard this song.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I'm like, what the amount of times I've heard this
song in my life from def Leppard, like numerous songs,
And he's just like, Nope, never not. We're doing a
whole thing on it. We don't have time right now,
but mark it on your calendar. Jeff, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Shoot, all right, let me get you this though, my
half theory, half question.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
All right, here's my question.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Has any franchise or like college team won a championship
when the fans are focused on free chicken? That's an
honest question, because my theory is they haven't. I'm watching
Notre Dame last night get trucked by SMU. Oh and
toward the end of the game, they're losing by twenty
something points, and the one of the SMU players misses
(38:39):
the first free throw, and I noticed the crowd is
a little bit too loud right before that. I'm like,
there's probably free chicken on the line, And I immediately.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Think, well, they've never won anything.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Is there an NBA team right Your team is getting
smacked in the fourth quarter of a playoff game and
they're worried about free chicken.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
My theory is they've never won anything.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Well, the Lakers used to do like talk like if
you there's a taco is a jacket a box thing?
I forget what that, but I think.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
I they won a lot, so maybe this thing isn't.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
But I think the Lakers had to. I think it
was the Lakers thing like if they score a hundred points,
you get, you know, for free taco like like like
like that. So I maybe people don't know this. I
I faginned a couple of people to give out wagers
on the internet and one of them gave out s
m U Yesterday's unfortunately Irish, and the Irish had more
(39:35):
turnovers than madefield goals in the first first half, so
it wasn't a great wager there, Brian, Uh, you're Irish.
My Ducks won last night, which is shocking because that's
like the basketball the Irish buddy, and there's like was
the coach and you.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Know, yeah, we'll get Micaus Screwsberry. That was a great audio.
And then they got trucked last night, so that that
was funny. But yeah, I I just don't know. I
would love to know a breakdown of the NBA franchises
that do the free chicken thing for missed free throws,
because my guess is it's a high percentage of those
teams that have done nothing as far as winning big
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in the NBA. Have you got to incentivize your fan
base with Hey, here's free chicken. Here's free chicken. If
they miss free throws like it should be dead. If
you're down by double digits in the fourth quarter, doesn't apply.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Digits in the first two minutes of that game.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
So right, yeah, yes, but at least in the fourth
quarter that should be a rule there, fair, Yes, come
it up, we'll get to def Leppard. How Coop is
out of his mind? Ooh in a certain name in
the NFL, will he get tagged?