February 25, 2025 • 41 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, a Matthew Stafford trade looks more and more likely. We may have seen the end of the “tush-push.” Plus, Ponderosa Steakhouse, Mic Condoms & Fireball.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Tuesday edition, the Great Pete Prisco is
going to stop by. He is live in Indianapolis. We're
going to get to the bottom of these Matthew Stafford
rumors and what draft class this could be. When it
comes to running backs, when it comes to interior defensive linemen,
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Pete will break it all down for you live from Indy.
We're also going to have a conversation or two about
Matthew Stafford and what his motivations are at this point
in his career. We are going to get the very
latest on one team in the NFL that does not
want the tush push any longer. Abduall Carter, what is
his situation? Why has there been some misreporting about when
he suffered the injury when Penn State was trying to
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chase down a national title, Now that he might be
the number one pick overall, We're going to talk about
the future for Joel Embiid apparently woe. She's got some
burner phones out there that you can buy, believe it
or not, and it'll help out his alma mater. We're
going to have a deather discussion about toothpaste for some reason,
a place called Ponsa And did you know this about genuine?
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Stick around and listen. It's two pros and a cup
of Joe on a Tuesday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
Right well, Hello, there, two pros and a cup of Joe.
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(02:02):
on a Tuesday?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Are we doing on a.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Tuesday, A rough tuesday, man, fired up for a Tuesday, Manday,
What do you mean overslept?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Man?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I mean I made it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But jeez, there's no such thing as oversleeping. When you
wake up at one o'clock, there's just sleep.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's all good, man.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's a life of naps. That's the way I look at.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I woke up.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I looked at my clock, I hit snooze. Anyway, Like
what I hit snooze for.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Didn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You thought it was last week?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Right, you know that that that'll happen from time to time,
way too early, but nonetheless, And it's also where you're
at now.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean, that's good living. It's that ocean air man
just hits you. You know, you open the windows, you
get it, you feel good. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I kind of feel like an a hole that we
I mean, there's parts of the country that are dealing
with like real cold, and we're looking at like eighty eighty.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Five degrees right now here in southern California. Oh, it
was really nice out yesterday. Yeah, I enjoyed it. What's
it going to be today?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Like eighty It's getting a little warmer throughout the week,
middle of the week here in Soca.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
All right, I think I saw eighty three for today.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Eighty three. Yeah, there you go, which means Lee will
be at the pool with what pool?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
The pool out where his apartment is, that's right, Yeah,
what pool is?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That is that baptop? What pool is he going to
be at? And will he be by himself? Hey? Lee? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Never? Never?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
U never. I don't even want to know. Yeah, he's
still at home.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
One of those one of those plastic blue kiddie pools
you get at Walgreen.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's probably probably what it's going to turn out to be.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
But hey, listen, you know, uh, we will we will
keep you posted. Uh you know, if Lee does venture
into a swimming pool with Todd and.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
The cooler bruise.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Someone else, are you able to access the pool or
those those weirdos who are running your place, uh like
block you out from all that.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I can't access the pool if I want. It is
weird because my unit is directly on the pool. I'm
the only unit that's on the pool. So I don't know,
I would just feel kind of weird why because then
I'd be like tempted to just kind of be like
spying on them and that that's weird.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, maybe they would be tempted to spy on you.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't even think they know what I look like.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Oh do you know what they do?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Not really?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
But I mean I know where my unit is, so
i'd be then I wouldn't know what they look like.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Uh, oh, I have met the woman.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
I haven't I have met the woman, the woman, the mother,
the lady, the lady.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Why would you think that you would be spying on
them if you just went to the pool.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
That's your pool. It's really not your pool, but it's
the pool that it feels like. It feels like my pool.
You have access to the communal pool. Of course, yes
I do, and it should go. I was well, I
was at Todd's pool yesterday.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
The pool at at the place I live at. We've
been there coming up on five years. I've never even
so much as put my feet now, not for one sing.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
But why is it a clean pool?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Oh, it's a beautiful pool like that, like they take
care of it.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It looks great. Look at me.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Oh yeah, vampires don't swim.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Jonas. If you turn the light right in the studio,
if you turn the light on bright in the studio,
I'd get burnt. Like I am so pale, I have
to cover myself. You are really pale, I am?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
It's interesting? Yeah, there you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Go real what reale yaie blood?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
All right, so we are off and running here. We
will look to let you know. We have technical difficulties
here with one Braden Quinn. So as soon as we
have have him up and run him, we will let
you know him and we will continue on with the
conversation and the grab ass and the shenanigans. But we
will do a little follow up here on a story that,
as all of a sudden, started to take another turn
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after another turn after another turn. According to I almost
said Antonio Brown because I called him maybe different Twitter account.
But according to Albert Breer, our guy who visits with
us every single Thursday, the Matt Stafford situation is heating up.
The Giants, the Steelers, the Raiders, and the Browns have
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all shown interest in Matthew Stafford, along with quote unnamed
other teams. So now this becomes it's not the other
teams that we mentioned, you know, right, And here's what's
weird about this whole thing is if Matthew Stafford becomes available,
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he's the best quarterback on the market. If the Rams
become available, but he's not going to come available. It's
a matter of is a team willing to play ball
to get Matthew Stafford? And if a team is willing
to give him the money he wants and the Rams
aren't willing to meet that offer, then the trade discussion start. Sure,
but I look at it and I go Matthew Stafford's
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the best option on the market as a quarterback. The
Rams become the best team on the market. If you're
looking for a quarterback. I ask you a question. So
why couldn't these two get it together?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
How does this How does this compare to the Lamar
Jackson year when he was made a restricted free agent?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well, they put the the franchise tag on him to
where a team would have to give.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Right, he wasn't a free agent.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It was a restricted franchise tag, an exclusive franchise tag. Yeah,
to where they'd have to go up the two first
So but okay, so two first rounders definitely would be
out of the question for Matthew Stafford. Yeah, I don't
think they're going to first. Okay, So that that ends
that conversation. I was kind of curious as to what,
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looking back on and now, would you give up to
two first rounders for Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I mean, I'd give up two first rounders. I'd give
up my owner, I'd give up I mean whatever it
takes to get Lamar Jackson. Like he's been better since
he signed the deal, So yeah, I mean that, like
he's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You think on the open market, if they if they
give him a restricted, it would be a restrictive free
agency deal. Right, what do you mean for not free agent?
I keep saying free agency. If they were to put
Matthew Stafford out there, would it be a you know,
what is it?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The franchise tag, like the exclusive franchise.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, there was no franchise tag.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
There would be no franchise tag. This is okay, So
this is just purely a trade.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He was looking for a raise, and so if the
team's willing to give him the money that he's looking for,
then we start talking about trade.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Okay, Now that makes more sense, and that's why both
parties have to be willing to be to be a
part of it.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But well, he doesn't have a no trade clause in
his contract.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right, so they both I mean when I say both
parties got to want to play, you know, to make
it happen. Meaning he's under contract. So the Rams would
have to want to trade him to begin with. They
could say that we don't want to trade you.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You're under contract, right, yeah, yeah, I mean technically they
don't have to agree to any whatever another team offers them, right.
If we actually want to compare it to another situation,
it would be Kirk Cousins. The difference in his contract
situation is not only does he have a bonus that's
coming up that that will kind of kicking and guarantee
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he's getting paid I believe a bit more under his
base salary this year, and he actually has a no
trade clause within his deal. So the difference is if
Atlanta wanted to trade him, they still would have to
come to him multiply, and really, Cousins has all the
leverage and he would have to say, yeah, I'm willing
to do that or no, I'm gonna sit here and
be your backup for a year, and Atlanta could decide
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whether or not they want to agree to that and
have him and basically pay him more than Michael Pennix
and have him on the team, or they could, you know,
eventually release him and you know, pay him whatever guaranteed
money is are owed and kind of move on and
take the cap hit down the road for the next
year or two.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
So why isn't there more conversation? Why is this?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Maybe it's because Matthew Stafford is putting it out there,
his team is putting it out there. Why isn't there
more conversation about Kirk Cousins being in a tradable situation,
who would be Matthew.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Stafford would clearly see how he played last year?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, no, value not well, not not as much as
you'd like. H played itself out of first round or
first first pick first.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, and I don't know that Kirks his wife is
doing a podcast talking about it either.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So yeah, promotion, you gotta promote it. Shouts out the
Mama Staffs one difference.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
By the way, I was wondering, maybe that's part of
the reason why he wants more money. They're really investing
into the podcast studio for her, and so maybe they
want the top notch equipment and the twenty seven inch
gold they are.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
In La though, you know, you could go to a studio.
There's all kinds of studios around here.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, that one over there we use for the herd.
It's not getting used a lot.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It doesn't get used a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, interesting, good people watching on the street.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I mean, it feels like the Rams and Stafford are
both better off with each other. And the more that
this goes on, the more people talk about it, now
worth the combine week. I'm wondering if and Albert Breer
put it in his article when he wrote about it
on SI when he said, you got to wonder if
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there's the ability to put the toothpaste back the tube,
if the relationship has been damaged or strained to the
point to where now we're already down the road, let's
just try and get a deal done with another team.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
He's a forty nine million dollars that the declaration? What's
that is that?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
The declaration when like things are over, when someone says, ah,
the toothpaste is out of the tube. I mean, have
you guys actually ever tried to put toothpastees back into
a toothpaste tube?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I've tried with my kids because my kids wasted a bunch.
It's impossible. Good luck.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I don't think you need luck. I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I just don't think it'll go back in. I don't
see how you would get it back.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
In maybe if you. No, I don't even think that.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You also don't need to put toothpaste across the entire brush.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Half is fine. I do the entire brush. Really, Yeah,
I do the I mean sometimes I do it twice.
Sometimes I then I do it twice.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean that's that's like a rookie move. But
again that well, you don't need to waste that much too.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Why is it a waste? Is it cleaning my teeth?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Now? I know what that smell is when I'm around
you now, and I know what the smell is.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, we're going to start off with reckless accusations here.
This So you're you're okay with just getting two teeth
clean when you do it directions from my dentist. Okay,
that's that's the go to.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean he could have just said, hey, we waste
a whole bunch of toothpaste. Next thing you know, you're
you're buying, you know, a tube of toothpaste every month
as opposed to be economical brush.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But based on how I don't know, frugal you are.
I feel like you'd pick the dentist that would be
like that, Like you wouldn't pick him based on reviews
the job he does. You'd be like, I need a
guy who's cheap and quick and can give me the
most economical advice that's correct, And so you'd pick the
guy that's like Jonas. I wait you to know. I
looked at your teeth. I cleaned half of them today
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because I didn't really feel like the other half. Uh,
we're gonna be able to salvage. Yeah, so I'm allowed.
They basically let those rot away and we'll get you
some something else to throw in your mouth to look
better in the future. But I saved you about probably
twenty minutes. And yeah, there's no point in trying to
brush those teeth, so you surely use half the toothpaste
at this point. We'll throw in some caps Veneers or
(14:18):
something later on.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, well that's there you go. I got Veneers. I've
already invested enough in my mouth. I'm not going to
invest anymore, so I'll nickel and diamond if I have to.
But I'm not going to spend any more money than
I need to.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
My breath is fine. I was going to use I
was going to use with those veneers.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
You don't want to bite it into anything, so like
an apple not happening, a carrot not happening, really to
go on the sides.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, so you can't have an apple anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Really can't bite into it. You can cut it, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Can do that.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So I was going to use armorole as an example,
like do you feel like you can use less armorole
on your your tires? But then I thought about your
rat and I was like, that probably wouldn't be a
good Yeah, that wouldn't be a good example. Your tires
on the even teeth.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, you're right. Is like your team lady.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Pull up to a car washer, like, don't waste your time, buddy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Other cars behind you? What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
They got that self service watch over there.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
We got one that's within the ten year mark?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Step aside? Does this get done? Does this? Does this happen?
Does Matthew Stafford? I don't think it happens. I think
he ends up staying. I think they figured it out.
I think he's gone.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I didn't think I think he's gone until yesterday and
I was like, yeah, I think this is we're headering
that that territory here.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah, over, somebody's going to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I think the more the more teams that are interested
in him, that the greater likely that he's gone, because
there also creates this idea of a market. And if
you have so far, we've heard the Browns reportedly, the Steelers,
the Raiders, and who's their team, I'm missing Giants. There's
one more.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Who's that Giants?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Giants. That's so you have four teams now and possibly
la who are throwing out a potential contract, and Las
Vegas has a ton of cap space. I mean, if
if Las Vegas wants to do this, they could do this,
and they could pay Matt Stafford what he wants to
be paid. And if you're looking at some of the
top quarterbacks as we talked about yesterday as far as
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average annual value, I'm sure Matt Stafford at the end
of his career is saying I don't want to be
compensated less than some of these other guys that I
know I'm better than, and so that has to factor
in at some point. And again, you know this kind
of goes against the conversation of what you were talking
about yesterday, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Just because you.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Have a lot of money doesn't mean you're satisfied and
you're like, I'm good. Most people are like, no, I
want to make more, Like Tom Brady didn't finish playing
and go, yeah, I'm looking for a discount somewhere else,
so I'll just work for free the rest of my life.
He went and signed to three hundred and seventy five
million dollar contract at Fox reportedly, and he's trying to
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buy or he's least, you know, invested into the ownership
of a franchise, which I'm sure at some point he'll
try to be the majority owner. That's how these guys
are wired. And so for Matt Stafford, he's most likely
looking at the situation and saying, yeah, I want to
be compensated fairly for what I feel like I bring
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and more than that. If I am going to hang
it up in a year or two or three, whatever
it is, I'm not gonna get paid fifty plus million
per year to do a job, any job. So let's
say he's going to average fifty million for the next
two years, three years, where else can he make one
hundred and hundred fifty million nowhere. There's nothing else that
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he's gonna do the rest of his life unless he,
you know, buys some company and is able to run it,
you know, turn itt up a bunch of millions and
sell it. But very few people are able to do that.
So he's smart enough to say, I'm gonna sees the
opportunity to do this and continue to build on my
wealth of what I've had, what I've got. So again,
I know you don't think that's like a thing, but
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trust me, once you have some, you want more. Right
like you again, we only go back. We always go
back to the pond rosa steak. You know you had
that Ponderosa ones. You want to bashost You said, I
have no idea? What think you did?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I know what you're hitting with. You don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Now every time he tries to act he's from Ohio
or you.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Don't know nothing about it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You don't know because I grow, I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I don't go out for stakes.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
When I go out on stakes, when I grill, that's
not that's all good, that's not it.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
We don't hold it against you. You don't. You don't,
you don't get the card, bro, you got to know
about you just.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Got exposed on national radio. Try to be the most
relatable guy you just got expose.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well, here's here's what I do know. Matthew Stafford should
have a little appreciation for franchise that rescued him from
a bucket of vomit in Detroit. His career was headed
towards obscurity. He was going to make a ton of money.
He was going to make a ton of money and
never compete for a Super Bowl. But if he was
still there when Dan Campbell, they saved his ass. They
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saved him, brought him aboard. He wins the super Bowl,
and then afterwards he's got to tighten the screws on
the organization. If I was less need and I was
Sean mcvah'd be like, cool band, Go go do what
you want to. Go be with the giants. Go finish out.
Go finish out your career. Make a ton of money.
Because the three sixty plus that you've already made in
your NFL careers not enough. You've got to tighten the
(19:37):
screws and work us over so you can get as
much money.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You're trying to antagonize the queue. There I saw what
you just did me. You just just sat there and
spent that time explaining it, and then you came back
with that. And that's you offended because you didn't know
what ponderosa was.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
If you want to.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Tell you bother.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Analogy, what is the analogy is? It's like it was
like the old school. It's not even a steakhouse. It's
like an old buffet stop. It was like a Ryan's.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It was like a it was okay to go eat
out a buffet. I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Like a sizzler.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Listen, bro Not.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Really, it was a lesson than that, you guys. So
here's the thing. It's its own deal. And if you
ate it a ponder Rosa and then you had a
mastro steak, you would say, oh, I don't I ever
want to go back to that again? That's correct, And
that's that's what I'm saying. It's like Matt Stafford doesn't
want to go back to making less than what he's made.
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He's had a taste of that good life. He's trying
to get everyone his family has had to taste that
good life.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, okay, well there we go, look doubled down one
more times.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He gets enjoy that one super Bowl, enjoy it, have fun,
Go make as much money as you can. Sorry that
you weren't better with your cash during the course. Oh wow,
You've got to go ahead and make as much money
as possibly. All right, unbelievable. Well I do know this.
It is two pros and a cup of show here
on Fox Sports Radio. I listen, man, I don't go.
(21:16):
I don't find dying it up like I just got
exposed you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Ryans is either to you what you never heard oons
have you?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Oriyans?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I'm gonna r Ryans. No, Ryans, No, I don't I'm
not familiar with Ryan's right.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
You never try to claim Pennsylvania, Ohio again, you can
never try to do that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Who wants to claim Pennsylvania?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Tang you always do all the TiO bro Ohio. You
claim Pittsburgh too, like you talk about going.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
After what I heard about the youth sports programs in
Ohio this weekend, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I'll pass.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Hey, I don't blame you. I don't blame you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Aftronal Days Mike's Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It is two pros and a couple of.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Y'all. Take it how y'all get it?
Speaker 9 (22:11):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You know what, though, can we get a.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Round of applause for everybody involved?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
We really worked through.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
We did all really make it in.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Really worked through that. We did make it in. I
didn't know how that was gonna work though. I'm almost
cool to leave the lap bro. I'm just being honest. Yeah,
we did it.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I'm gonna go get some coffee, man, I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Go team, all right, So, uh, Pete Prisco is gonna
stop by later on this hour in case you need
it anymore of vitriol in your morning on a Tuesday.
We're also going to have some Lee's leftovers in case
you missed it. All of it is yours here from
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you here on FSR. Yeah, we were kicking around during
the break. LeVar is using the community mike condom that
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everybody else uses in here on the microphone.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Thank you. Yeah, I'm communal, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And we were default of course we're wondering, well you
brought it up.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I mean, I was like, I don't know why you
used to same one as everybody else.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
And then we.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Realized, oh yeah, Lee never replaced the one that Todd used.
What happened to that?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
What happened to the one that Todd used is that
even would never use it.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Mom wouldn't use that just because which is strange because
I used this one right, but it's not. But your
logic doesn't get to apply because you're the reason why
I'm communal.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I understand. So yeah, I did, I do.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Remember I went to go try to replace it I
went to Guitar Center and they just didn't have ones that.
It was very slim pickens, and they didn't have ones
that fit our mics.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It wasn't slim pickings. When Todd needed a cover, though,
I'll tell you that curious.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh boy, I think I will do that, Jonas, when
you use no, it's gone, that's upgrade.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, he likes having it racist racist.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I wasn't racist. That was actually the opposite.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
Our listeners have requested anytime anyone says a color of
any sort, I pressed the racist button.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So our listeners show me that message. Let me see
that one.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Okay, it was a few months ago, but I got
you yellow.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I got nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
The green baby go racist.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
That's the blue man group racist?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
All right, LeVar, Would you care what color my e
condom Y had?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Charlie brown?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Racist? Do you prefer white?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Or do you care if it is black?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Blue?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Is my favorite color?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Racist? Which would be appropriate?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Would it?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Okay, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Think about it, but hey, listen, we will get to
the bottom of that as soon as Lee is able
to replace.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Those are by the way, those are slow to be
delivered from the male. So I think we're looking at
two and a half years. So as soon as uh
pipe ste.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
On that, uh.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I went to Guitar Center more.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
They didn't happen to have it. Why do you I
go to Guitar Center for Todd? Like he why did
you just leave mine alone? Mine was just fine?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Right? Where was that.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Nicely tucked away in a plastic bag? He had to
go into the he had to go into the drawer
to go get it, like he had to go in
the cabinet and get it and take it out to
make sure Todd didn't use the communal make sure Todd
didn't use the communal microphone.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
You got to guard those with your life, man, you know,
and everybody else's cooties all over.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I do feel kind of honored though, that he thought
of me and my mic cover to accommodate Todd while
he was in studio.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That's wonderful. Yeah, well, there you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Go, sharing his caring. I mean, he could have been
like ew LeVar uses that one. I'm not going to
use that one, but he chose to use it, So
there you go. I'm cool with it. We can move on.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, I do know this, so you LeVar during Super
Bowl week, were on with the great Steve Zabin and
you guys were on in Wisconsin and uh, you know,
just kind of you know, talking shop there. And it's
funny we bring up Wisconsin and Green Bay because they
want push. Yeah, they're the team that's the league and yeah,
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can we ban this? So here we go. Not that surprising,
considering Mark Murphy in his mail bag a few weeks
ago talked about his displeasure for the Toush push that
it doesn't look like a football play, but at least
the wheels are in motion from one team, who reportedly
is the Packers, that they would like this play no
longer to be allowed in the NFL. So there's the latest.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Thank you. Yeah, that's that's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
What do we have any idea as to why the
Green Bay Packers would be the team that is so
passionate about getting it getting it banned?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Would there be.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Any they try to submit to under annemity, right, they
didn't want people to know they were submitting this, and
then this got out that it was the Packers, if
I'm not mistaken. Yeah, so they tried to not be
the team that's like, hey, we've got an issue with
this but I would imagine there's three things they're trying
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to target to get rid of it. The first is
player safety. That's always something that you know, if you
look for change in the NFL, that's usually how it
comes about. It's player safety. So why the kickoff now
is a disaster And they're probably contemplating the fourth and
fifteen idea now, which I also heard as opposed to
the onside kicks, because it's now quite predictable, and maybe
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they feel like they've actually got a better chance to
convert a fourth and fifteen. But I digress. That was
born out of player safety for kickoffs. So in this instance,
you'd have to say, and we talked about this too
with what Washington did versus Philly, where as a Frankieluvu
kept jumping over the pile, and at that point I
(29:01):
was thinking to myself, all right, it's not safe for
Frankie Louvo to do that. You can't tell me it's
safe for the linemen. The way the you know going,
you know, pushing into each other and everything else with
their way their head and neck is. We just haven't
had a serious injury yet. That doesn't mean it's not
going to happen, so I'm sure there's gonna be some
challenge to the safety of the play and all involved.
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The next thing is it doesn't look like any other
play we have in football, and that's something that you
kind of look at it and go, all, right, are
we allowing something purely because the officials couldn't do their
job well enough. When I reached out to Dean Blandino,
that was the explanation that I got was the officials
didn't feel like they could appropriately officiate anytime an offensive
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player is pushing another offensive player, which seems a bit
ridiculous in today's world, especially with replay where you would
be able to see something like this. So I would
kind of challenge that theory if that's one of the
reasons why the officials are saying, well, we're allowing it
because we kind of allowed it in the past because
we couldn't see it and officiated well enough. Okay, sounds
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like you need to do a better job. And then
the third part that they'll probably most likely point to
is it's a play that's so greatly in the advantage
to the offense that I think the success right now.
We read earlier this year was like seventy percent. That's
for all teams. Now Philly is the best at doing
it and they're like seventy three, seventy four, but most
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teams when they utilize that are above seventy percent success rate.
So it then leads you to three potential issues that
you're facing from a competitive standpoint, a safety standpoint, and
then overall just looking at saying like we're in a
daate age where we could say, let's make this reviewable
if we feel like a player was pushed or advantaged
and that used to be a rule and we took
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it out because we feel like the seven guys on
the field can't see it well enough, then go fight
an af if that just looks for that, or use
replay to be able to see It's not like we
don't have an assortment of cameras to see this sort
of thing. So I think ultimately there will come a
time where this is removed from the league. I don't
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have a dog in the fight either way. I'm just
trying to explain to you why the rationale, why I
think Green Band other teams are trying to get rid
of it.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I just don't understand when it became okay to push
guys in the back.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
You know who the thought of the play. I read
this Anthony Barr from the Vikings, the linebacker. Yeah, kind
of threw it out as an idea, and then Sirianna
used it in Indianapolis and then brought it to Philly.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I just don't understand why you're allowed to push guys
in the back. Like, first off, there's the player safety
element of it. Why are you pushing another guy in
the back because this happens now a guy could be running,
which I find it to be so extraordinary sjordinarily funny.
(32:01):
When I hear a guy calling the game say, oh,
look at the power, look at look at his drive,
say diatic, they can't stop him, look at him? And
you got two three hundred pound dudes pushing them like
and dragging them, Like what are you looking at?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
But I don't understand the idea of being able to
push the guy. It wasn't a part of the game
when I played. I don't I just don't understand when
that became okay to run up on Like you're running
back has mad. They've made contact with your running back.
(32:37):
They make contact with your quarterback or your receiver and
here comes an offensive lineman or somebody, and instead of
you know, I don't know, waiting to help him up,
you're pushing him in the back like you're literally grabbing
him and trying to pull him or hitting him in
his pads, in his back and trying to push him
(32:59):
through the tacklers for more yards. I just don't understand
when that became commonplace for the game, because to me,
if that were taken away and taken out of the game,
then of course you can police a play like that,
because you shouldn't. If he goes down, if the quarterback
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goes down and finds an entry through the line of scrimmage,
or they pushed the line of scrimmage back the offensive line,
then it is what it is. I think where it
gets complex and it kind of gets out of the
realm of It doesn't look like a regular football play.
It doesn't seem to make sense. Is the guys pushing behind,
(33:42):
Like I just don't understand how you just load up
and we're just gonna push the front. We're gonna knife
the front, we're gonna push from behind, and we're gonna
outstrength your strength on the other side by pushing our
guy through Like, I don't. I don't buy that. I
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don't subscribe to that. I don't think it's safe for one,
and for two, I don't think it makes sense. That
just doesn't make logical sense to me, that guys are
allowed to get pushed and pulled. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
That is just from an optics standpoint, and that's you know,
Brady mentioned this earlier. That doesn't resemble football at any
point during the game.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I mean rugby.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
You get to do it in rugby, Yeah, but you
know you're getting scrums and stuff like that, and you
know you're pushing and guys are pushing and but there
that's different rules. There's a sport for that. Yes, we're
not rugby, and it's not there shouldn't be. If you're
gonna have a push that it shouldn't be a true scrum.
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That's really a true scrum.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I don't what.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Happened to the old quarterback sneak, That's all I want
to know, all right, Like I didn't need someone to
push me in order to go forward and get a
first down. You know Tom really used that forever. He
never got the never stopped him. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I just don't understand that part of it, like why
are you pushing the guy? Like, I just don't get it.
That's that's what that's that's the biggest to me, that's
the biggest, most egregious part of the play.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Philly fans are going to take issue with this. You
guys know this, right, because they're Philly fans. That's what
they're gonna do. But the reality is, as jonas you
just pointed out, I want you to say again the
history of the actual play, because most thinking like Philly
invented it, it's like, well quite, not quite, this actually
started before that.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I perfect it was a defensive guy who had the
idea Anthony Barr for the tush push and then so yeah,
smart dude, smart guy. Uh Syrianna get ahold of it,
and Indy brought it to Philly and away we go,
brotherly shove tush push. I would like to see if
(35:58):
they decide.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
They want to keep you around that line. See, but I.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Would like to see it changed, just from the standpoint
of I want to see how Philly operates.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I want to see how Philly operates.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Without that at their disposal, Like I'm curious to see
what that does to them in shortyarded situations, what their
success rate goes down to. If anything, If they don't
have this sit there as an option for moving forward.
So who knows, maybe it'll get done. I do know this.
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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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After that, we turn it over to our executive producer, Lead.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Lap Good more than everybody.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Good morning, LeVar, Good, Mordy Brdain, Good, Morny Jonas guys.
In case you missed this, UH coach Kirby Smart gave
a presentation at the Nike Coach of the Year Clinic
UH over the weekend and included a slide show picture
of Joe Burrow, Bryce Young, Cam Newton and Johnny Manziel.
He asked those at the clinic to say what was
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similar between all these players?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
One of these guys have in common. Speak up, Hosman quarterbacks,
champions he champion, champion of what?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Champion of fireball?
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Damn shots fired?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Lee, you gotta take that.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Tell us how you really feel? That seemed personal?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
That did seem a little personal.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Lee.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Don't let them talk to you like that.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Hey no, wow?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh Lee, is Johnny Manzil your favorite college football player ever?
Because you kind of relate with him? Right?
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Yeah, sure, Yeah, I've loved a party with Johnny be
good times.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Well that wasn't the question, but okay, no, he's not
my favorite.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Fault.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Who's your favorite? I don't know football player.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I got to Barry Sanders, I got two favorites.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Thank you, Jonas. That would have been the response I
got to.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
That would have been the proper r is a weirdo man,
Thank you, Thank thank you Jonas, Thank good job.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Riina. Who are your favorite?
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Probably it's LeVar Arrington and Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Two for two hooks.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Yeah, even got I know you love this. Brady one
of the listeners the other day said you're his favorite
and that you're so handsome, you're the most handsomest football
player he's ever seen.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
All that is true. It is, well, just hang out.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Don't get upset, Jonas because we made the Ponderosa thing
and you got exposed. Okay, what is pond Rosa?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
How Brady just assumed you knew I had to expose you?
So I don't think we had in California? Yeah, we had, Yeah,
not tough enough for We had Happy Steak in Thousand Oaks.
Growing up, there's a place called Happy Steak. That's it
really could go down at that buffet. Bro Oh yeah.
Oh if you're not.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Happy Steak, feels like it's like an innuendo for something else,
you know.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
You know now that they probably was in West Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Damn Lee, what else we got?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah? Well, guys, in case Lorna was just there, I mean,
are you off your meds?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
No?
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I'm not go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Uh, guys. In case you missed this.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Over the weekend, Vandre Campbell called out fans and multiple
NFL analysts over quitting allegations.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Back in December when he left the game in week fifteen.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
I'll give you a little bit of what he went
on Twitter at saying, listen, I'm sick of all y'all
bitch ass blanks jumps. Oh it's been two much and
I have yet to address the situation because I know
the truth and I don't care to clear anything up.
I'm by myself all the time. And if you want
any of them bitch ass blanks for the forty nine ers,
feel wow, feel some type of way, go with you
moan he told them blank, he put that, he so
(41:19):
much to say about me gone, I have to stand
on them words next time I see them. I've been
standing on my business my whole life, and it's gonna
be that until I'm six feet under. That goes for
all of them old ass retired blanks that jumped on
TV speaking on my name. And they could have reached
out to me and heard it from the horse's mouth,
but they just took the forty nine ers with the
forty nine ers said it, ran with it, blank, y'all, blank,
(41:40):
all y'all, t.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I mean, tell us how you feel.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
At least he stood on it, you know he did
stand on it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
That's a mic. What else we would do but yeah,
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Tuesday, A rough tuesday, man, fired up for a Tuesday, Manday,
What do you mean overslept?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Man?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I mean I made it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But jeez, there's no such thing as oversleeping. When you
wake up at one o'clock, there's just sleep.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's all good, man.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's a life of naps. That's the way I look at.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I woke up.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I looked at my clock, I hit snooze. Anyway, Like
what I hit snooze for.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Didn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You thought it was last week?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Right, you know that that that'll happen from time to time,
way too early, but nonetheless, And it's also where you're
at now.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean, that's good living. It's that ocean air man
just hits you. You know, you open the windows, you
get it, you feel good. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I kind of feel like an a hole that we
I mean, there's parts of the country that are dealing
with like real cold, and we're looking at like eighty eighty.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Five degrees right now here in southern California. Oh, it
was really nice out yesterday. Yeah, I enjoyed it. What's
it going to be today?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Like eighty It's getting a little warmer throughout the week,
middle of the week here in Soca.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
All right, I think I saw eighty three for today.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Eighty three. Yeah, there you go, which means Lee will
be at the pool with what pool?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
The pool out where his apartment is, that's right, Yeah,
what pool is?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That is that baptop? What pool is he going to
be at? And will he be by himself? Hey? Lee? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Never? Never?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
U never. I don't even want to know. Yeah, he's
still at home.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
One of those one of those plastic blue kiddie pools
you get at Walgreen.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's probably probably what it's going to turn out to be.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
But hey, listen, you know, uh, we will we will
keep you posted. Uh you know, if Lee does venture
into a swimming pool with Todd and.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
The cooler bruise.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Someone else, are you able to access the pool or
those those weirdos who are running your place, uh like
block you out from all that.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I can't access the pool if I want. It is
weird because my unit is directly on the pool. I'm
the only unit that's on the pool. So I don't know,
I would just feel kind of weird why because then
I'd be like tempted to just kind of be like
spying on them and that that's weird.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, maybe they would be tempted to spy on you.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't even think they know what I look like.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Oh do you know what they do?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Not really?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
But I mean I know where my unit is, so
i'd be then I wouldn't know what they look like.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Uh, oh, I have met the woman.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
I haven't I have met the woman, the woman, the mother,
the lady, the lady.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Why would you think that you would be spying on
them if you just went to the pool.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
That's your pool. It's really not your pool, but it's
the pool that it feels like. It feels like my pool.
You have access to the communal pool. Of course, yes
I do, and it should go. I was well, I
was at Todd's pool yesterday.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
The pool at at the place I live at. We've
been there coming up on five years. I've never even
so much as put my feet now, not for one sing.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
But why is it a clean pool?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Oh, it's a beautiful pool like that, like they take
care of it.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It looks great. Look at me.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Oh yeah, vampires don't swim.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Jonas. If you turn the light right in the studio,
if you turn the light on bright in the studio,
I'd get burnt. Like I am so pale, I have
to cover myself. You are really pale, I am?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
It's interesting? Yeah, there you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Go real what reale yaie blood?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
All right, so we are off and running here. We
will look to let you know. We have technical difficulties
here with one Braden Quinn. So as soon as we
have have him up and run him, we will let
you know him and we will continue on with the
conversation and the grab ass and the shenanigans. But we
will do a little follow up here on a story that,
as all of a sudden, started to take another turn
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after another turn after another turn. According to I almost
said Antonio Brown because I called him maybe different Twitter account.
But according to Albert Breer, our guy who visits with
us every single Thursday, the Matt Stafford situation is heating up.
The Giants, the Steelers, the Raiders, and the Browns have
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all shown interest in Matthew Stafford, along with quote unnamed
other teams. So now this becomes it's not the other
teams that we mentioned, you know, right, And here's what's
weird about this whole thing is if Matthew Stafford becomes available,
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he's the best quarterback on the market. If the Rams
become available, but he's not going to come available. It's
a matter of is a team willing to play ball
to get Matthew Stafford? And if a team is willing
to give him the money he wants and the Rams
aren't willing to meet that offer, then the trade discussion start. Sure,
but I look at it and I go Matthew Stafford's
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the best option on the market as a quarterback. The
Rams become the best team on the market. If you're
looking for a quarterback. I ask you a question. So
why couldn't these two get it together?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
How does this How does this compare to the Lamar
Jackson year when he was made a restricted free agent?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well, they put the the franchise tag on him to
where a team would have to give.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Right, he wasn't a free agent.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It was a restricted franchise tag, an exclusive franchise tag. Yeah,
to where they'd have to go up the two first
So but okay, so two first rounders definitely would be
out of the question for Matthew Stafford. Yeah, I don't
think they're going to first. Okay, So that that ends
that conversation. I was kind of curious as to what,
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looking back on and now, would you give up to
two first rounders for Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I mean, I'd give up two first rounders. I'd give
up my owner, I'd give up I mean whatever it
takes to get Lamar Jackson. Like he's been better since
he signed the deal, So yeah, I mean that, like
he's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You think on the open market, if they if they
give him a restricted, it would be a restrictive free
agency deal. Right, what do you mean for not free agent?
I keep saying free agency. If they were to put
Matthew Stafford out there, would it be a you know,
what is it?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The franchise tag, like the exclusive franchise.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, there was no franchise tag.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
There would be no franchise tag. This is okay, So
this is just purely a trade.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He was looking for a raise, and so if the
team's willing to give him the money that he's looking for,
then we start talking about trade.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Okay, Now that makes more sense, and that's why both
parties have to be willing to be to be a
part of it.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But well, he doesn't have a no trade clause in
his contract.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right, so they both I mean when I say both
parties got to want to play, you know, to make
it happen. Meaning he's under contract. So the Rams would
have to want to trade him to begin with. They
could say that we don't want to trade you.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You're under contract, right, yeah, yeah, I mean technically they
don't have to agree to any whatever another team offers them, right.
If we actually want to compare it to another situation,
it would be Kirk Cousins. The difference in his contract
situation is not only does he have a bonus that's
coming up that that will kind of kicking and guarantee
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he's getting paid I believe a bit more under his
base salary this year, and he actually has a no
trade clause within his deal. So the difference is if
Atlanta wanted to trade him, they still would have to
come to him multiply, and really, Cousins has all the
leverage and he would have to say, yeah, I'm willing
to do that or no, I'm gonna sit here and
be your backup for a year, and Atlanta could decide
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whether or not they want to agree to that and
have him and basically pay him more than Michael Pennix
and have him on the team, or they could, you know,
eventually release him and you know, pay him whatever guaranteed
money is are owed and kind of move on and
take the cap hit down the road for the next
year or two.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
So why isn't there more conversation? Why is this?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Maybe it's because Matthew Stafford is putting it out there,
his team is putting it out there. Why isn't there
more conversation about Kirk Cousins being in a tradable situation,
who would be Matthew.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Stafford would clearly see how he played last year?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, no, value not well, not not as much as
you'd like. H played itself out of first round or
first first pick first.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, and I don't know that Kirks his wife is
doing a podcast talking about it either.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So yeah, promotion, you gotta promote it. Shouts out the
Mama Staffs one difference.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
By the way, I was wondering, maybe that's part of
the reason why he wants more money. They're really investing
into the podcast studio for her, and so maybe they
want the top notch equipment and the twenty seven inch
gold they are.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
In La though, you know, you could go to a studio.
There's all kinds of studios around here.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, that one over there we use for the herd.
It's not getting used a lot.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It doesn't get used a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, interesting, good people watching on the street.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I mean, it feels like the Rams and Stafford are
both better off with each other. And the more that
this goes on, the more people talk about it, now
worth the combine week. I'm wondering if and Albert Breer
put it in his article when he wrote about it
on SI when he said, you got to wonder if
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there's the ability to put the toothpaste back the tube,
if the relationship has been damaged or strained to the
point to where now we're already down the road, let's
just try and get a deal done with another team.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
He's a forty nine million dollars that the declaration? What's
that is that?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
The declaration when like things are over, when someone says, ah,
the toothpaste is out of the tube. I mean, have
you guys actually ever tried to put toothpastees back into
a toothpaste tube?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I've tried with my kids because my kids wasted a bunch.
It's impossible. Good luck.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I don't think you need luck. I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I just don't think it'll go back in. I don't
see how you would get it back.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
In maybe if you. No, I don't even think that.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You also don't need to put toothpaste across the entire brush.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Half is fine. I do the entire brush. Really, Yeah,
I do the I mean sometimes I do it twice.
Sometimes I then I do it twice.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean that's that's like a rookie move. But
again that well, you don't need to waste that much too.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Why is it a waste? Is it cleaning my teeth?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Now? I know what that smell is when I'm around
you now, and I know what the smell is.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, we're going to start off with reckless accusations here.
This So you're you're okay with just getting two teeth
clean when you do it directions from my dentist. Okay,
that's that's the go to.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean he could have just said, hey, we waste
a whole bunch of toothpaste. Next thing you know, you're
you're buying, you know, a tube of toothpaste every month
as opposed to be economical brush.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But based on how I don't know, frugal you are.
I feel like you'd pick the dentist that would be
like that, Like you wouldn't pick him based on reviews
the job he does. You'd be like, I need a
guy who's cheap and quick and can give me the
most economical advice that's correct, And so you'd pick the
guy that's like Jonas. I wait you to know. I
looked at your teeth. I cleaned half of them today
(13:57):
because I didn't really feel like the other half. Uh,
we're gonna be able to salvage. Yeah, so I'm allowed.
They basically let those rot away and we'll get you
some something else to throw in your mouth to look
better in the future. But I saved you about probably
twenty minutes. And yeah, there's no point in trying to
brush those teeth, so you surely use half the toothpaste
at this point. We'll throw in some caps Veneers or
(14:18):
something later on.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, well that's there you go. I got Veneers. I've
already invested enough in my mouth. I'm not going to
invest anymore, so I'll nickel and diamond if I have to.
But I'm not going to spend any more money than
I need to.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
My breath is fine. I was going to use I
was going to use with those veneers.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
You don't want to bite it into anything, so like
an apple not happening, a carrot not happening, really to
go on the sides.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, so you can't have an apple anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Really can't bite into it. You can cut it, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Can do that.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So I was going to use armorole as an example,
like do you feel like you can use less armorole
on your your tires? But then I thought about your
rat and I was like, that probably wouldn't be a
good Yeah, that wouldn't be a good example. Your tires
on the even teeth.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, you're right. Is like your team lady.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Pull up to a car washer, like, don't waste your time, buddy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Other cars behind you? What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
They got that self service watch over there.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
We got one that's within the ten year mark?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Step aside? Does this get done? Does this? Does this happen?
Does Matthew Stafford? I don't think it happens. I think
he ends up staying. I think they figured it out.
I think he's gone.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I didn't think I think he's gone until yesterday and
I was like, yeah, I think this is we're headering
that that territory here.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah, over, somebody's going to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I think the more the more teams that are interested
in him, that the greater likely that he's gone, because
there also creates this idea of a market. And if
you have so far, we've heard the Browns reportedly, the Steelers,
the Raiders, and who's their team, I'm missing Giants. There's
one more.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Who's that Giants?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Giants. That's so you have four teams now and possibly
la who are throwing out a potential contract, and Las
Vegas has a ton of cap space. I mean, if
if Las Vegas wants to do this, they could do this,
and they could pay Matt Stafford what he wants to
be paid. And if you're looking at some of the
top quarterbacks as we talked about yesterday as far as
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average annual value, I'm sure Matt Stafford at the end
of his career is saying I don't want to be
compensated less than some of these other guys that I
know I'm better than, and so that has to factor
in at some point. And again, you know this kind
of goes against the conversation of what you were talking
about yesterday, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Just because you.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Have a lot of money doesn't mean you're satisfied and
you're like, I'm good. Most people are like, no, I
want to make more, Like Tom Brady didn't finish playing
and go, yeah, I'm looking for a discount somewhere else,
so I'll just work for free the rest of my life.
He went and signed to three hundred and seventy five
million dollar contract at Fox reportedly, and he's trying to
(17:05):
buy or he's least, you know, invested into the ownership
of a franchise, which I'm sure at some point he'll
try to be the majority owner. That's how these guys
are wired. And so for Matt Stafford, he's most likely
looking at the situation and saying, yeah, I want to
be compensated fairly for what I feel like I bring
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and more than that. If I am going to hang
it up in a year or two or three, whatever
it is, I'm not gonna get paid fifty plus million
per year to do a job, any job. So let's
say he's going to average fifty million for the next
two years, three years, where else can he make one
hundred and hundred fifty million nowhere. There's nothing else that
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he's gonna do the rest of his life unless he,
you know, buys some company and is able to run it,
you know, turn itt up a bunch of millions and
sell it. But very few people are able to do that.
So he's smart enough to say, I'm gonna sees the
opportunity to do this and continue to build on my
wealth of what I've had, what I've got. So again,
I know you don't think that's like a thing, but
(18:08):
trust me, once you have some, you want more. Right
like you again, we only go back. We always go
back to the pond rosa steak. You know you had
that Ponderosa ones. You want to bashost You said, I
have no idea? What think you did?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I know what you're hitting with. You don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Now every time he tries to act he's from Ohio
or you.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Don't know nothing about it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You don't know because I grow, I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I don't go out for stakes.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
When I go out on stakes, when I grill, that's
not that's all good, that's not it.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
We don't hold it against you. You don't. You don't,
you don't get the card, bro, you got to know
about you just.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Got exposed on national radio. Try to be the most
relatable guy you just got expose.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well, here's here's what I do know. Matthew Stafford should
have a little appreciation for franchise that rescued him from
a bucket of vomit in Detroit. His career was headed
towards obscurity. He was going to make a ton of money.
He was going to make a ton of money and
never compete for a Super Bowl. But if he was
still there when Dan Campbell, they saved his ass. They
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saved him, brought him aboard. He wins the super Bowl,
and then afterwards he's got to tighten the screws on
the organization. If I was less need and I was
Sean mcvah'd be like, cool band, Go go do what
you want to. Go be with the giants. Go finish out.
Go finish out your career. Make a ton of money.
Because the three sixty plus that you've already made in
your NFL careers not enough. You've got to tighten the
(19:37):
screws and work us over so you can get as
much money.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You're trying to antagonize the queue. There I saw what
you just did me. You just just sat there and
spent that time explaining it, and then you came back
with that. And that's you offended because you didn't know
what ponderosa was.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
If you want to.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Tell you bother.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Analogy, what is the analogy is? It's like it was
like the old school. It's not even a steakhouse. It's
like an old buffet stop. It was like a Ryan's.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It was like a it was okay to go eat
out a buffet. I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Like a sizzler.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Listen, bro Not.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Really, it was a lesson than that, you guys. So
here's the thing. It's its own deal. And if you
ate it a ponder Rosa and then you had a
mastro steak, you would say, oh, I don't I ever
want to go back to that again? That's correct, And
that's that's what I'm saying. It's like Matt Stafford doesn't
want to go back to making less than what he's made.
(20:42):
He's had a taste of that good life. He's trying
to get everyone his family has had to taste that
good life.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, okay, well there we go, look doubled down one
more times.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He gets enjoy that one super Bowl, enjoy it, have fun,
Go make as much money as you can. Sorry that
you weren't better with your cash during the course. Oh wow,
You've got to go ahead and make as much money
as possibly. All right, unbelievable. Well I do know this.
It is two pros and a cup of show here
on Fox Sports Radio. I listen, man, I don't go.
(21:16):
I don't find dying it up like I just got
exposed you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Ryans is either to you what you never heard oons
have you?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Oriyans?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I'm gonna r Ryans. No, Ryans, No, I don't I'm
not familiar with Ryan's right.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
You never try to claim Pennsylvania, Ohio again, you can
never try to do that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Who wants to claim Pennsylvania?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Tang you always do all the TiO bro Ohio. You
claim Pittsburgh too, like you talk about going.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
After what I heard about the youth sports programs in
Ohio this weekend, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I'll pass.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Hey, I don't blame you. I don't blame you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Aftronal Days Mike's Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It is two pros and a couple of.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Y'all. Take it how y'all get it?
Speaker 9 (22:11):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You know what, though, can we get a.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Round of applause for everybody involved?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
We really worked through.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
We did all really make it in.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Really worked through that. We did make it in. I
didn't know how that was gonna work though. I'm almost
cool to leave the lap bro. I'm just being honest. Yeah,
we did it.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I'm gonna go get some coffee, man, I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Go team, all right, So, uh, Pete Prisco is gonna
stop by later on this hour in case you need
it anymore of vitriol in your morning on a Tuesday.
We're also going to have some Lee's leftovers in case
you missed it. All of it is yours here from
the tireraq dot com studios. Up next, though, there is
one team in the NFL. They're not happy about it.
They are not happy, and they are letting it be known.
(22:49):
We'll get into the bottom of it right here on FSR.
Speaker 9 (22:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am E starting three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Fox Sports Radio LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here coming up in a little over fifteen minutes
from now. We've got a brand new nickname, a brand
new nickname in the world of sports, a new title
in the world of sports. We'll get into that for
you here on FSR. Yeah, we were kicking around during
the break. LeVar is using the community mike condom that
(23:32):
everybody else uses in here on the microphone.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Thank you. Yeah, I'm communal, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And we were default of course we're wondering, well you
brought it up.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I mean, I was like, I don't know why you
used to same one as everybody else.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
And then we.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Realized, oh yeah, Lee never replaced the one that Todd used.
What happened to that?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
What happened to the one that Todd used is that
even would never use it.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Mom wouldn't use that just because which is strange because
I used this one right, but it's not. But your
logic doesn't get to apply because you're the reason why
I'm communal.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I understand. So yeah, I did, I do.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Remember I went to go try to replace it I
went to Guitar Center and they just didn't have ones that.
It was very slim pickens, and they didn't have ones
that fit our mics.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It wasn't slim pickings. When Todd needed a cover, though,
I'll tell you that curious.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh boy, I think I will do that, Jonas, when
you use no, it's gone, that's upgrade.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, he likes having it racist racist.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I wasn't racist. That was actually the opposite.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
Our listeners have requested anytime anyone says a color of
any sort, I pressed the racist button.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So our listeners show me that message. Let me see
that one.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Okay, it was a few months ago, but I got
you yellow.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I got nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
The green baby go racist.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
That's the blue man group racist?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
All right, LeVar, Would you care what color my e
condom Y had?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Charlie brown?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Racist? Do you prefer white?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Or do you care if it is black?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Blue?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Is my favorite color?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Racist? Which would be appropriate?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Would it?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Okay, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Think about it, but hey, listen, we will get to
the bottom of that as soon as Lee is able
to replace.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Those are by the way, those are slow to be
delivered from the male. So I think we're looking at
two and a half years. So as soon as uh
pipe ste.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
On that, uh.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I went to Guitar Center more.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
They didn't happen to have it. Why do you I
go to Guitar Center for Todd? Like he why did
you just leave mine alone? Mine was just fine?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Right? Where was that.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Nicely tucked away in a plastic bag? He had to
go into the he had to go into the drawer
to go get it, like he had to go in
the cabinet and get it and take it out to
make sure Todd didn't use the communal make sure Todd
didn't use the communal microphone.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
You got to guard those with your life, man, you know,
and everybody else's cooties all over.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I do feel kind of honored though, that he thought
of me and my mic cover to accommodate Todd while
he was in studio.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That's wonderful. Yeah, well, there you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Go, sharing his caring. I mean, he could have been
like ew LeVar uses that one. I'm not going to
use that one, but he chose to use it, So
there you go. I'm cool with it. We can move on.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, I do know this, so you LeVar during Super
Bowl week, were on with the great Steve Zabin and
you guys were on in Wisconsin and uh, you know,
just kind of you know, talking shop there. And it's
funny we bring up Wisconsin and Green Bay because they
want push. Yeah, they're the team that's the league and yeah,
(27:16):
can we ban this? So here we go. Not that surprising,
considering Mark Murphy in his mail bag a few weeks
ago talked about his displeasure for the Toush push that
it doesn't look like a football play, but at least
the wheels are in motion from one team, who reportedly
is the Packers, that they would like this play no
longer to be allowed in the NFL. So there's the latest.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Thank you. Yeah, that's that's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
What do we have any idea as to why the
Green Bay Packers would be the team that is so
passionate about getting it getting it banned?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Would there be.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Any they try to submit to under annemity, right, they
didn't want people to know they were submitting this, and
then this got out that it was the Packers, if
I'm not mistaken. Yeah, so they tried to not be
the team that's like, hey, we've got an issue with
this but I would imagine there's three things they're trying
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to target to get rid of it. The first is
player safety. That's always something that you know, if you
look for change in the NFL, that's usually how it
comes about. It's player safety. So why the kickoff now
is a disaster And they're probably contemplating the fourth and
fifteen idea now, which I also heard as opposed to
the onside kicks, because it's now quite predictable, and maybe
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they feel like they've actually got a better chance to
convert a fourth and fifteen. But I digress. That was
born out of player safety for kickoffs. So in this instance,
you'd have to say, and we talked about this too
with what Washington did versus Philly, where as a Frankieluvu
kept jumping over the pile, and at that point I
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was thinking to myself, all right, it's not safe for
Frankie Louvo to do that. You can't tell me it's
safe for the linemen. The way the you know going,
you know, pushing into each other and everything else with
their way their head and neck is. We just haven't
had a serious injury yet. That doesn't mean it's not
going to happen, so I'm sure there's gonna be some
challenge to the safety of the play and all involved.
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The next thing is it doesn't look like any other
play we have in football, and that's something that you
kind of look at it and go, all, right, are
we allowing something purely because the officials couldn't do their
job well enough. When I reached out to Dean Blandino,
that was the explanation that I got was the officials
didn't feel like they could appropriately officiate anytime an offensive
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player is pushing another offensive player, which seems a bit
ridiculous in today's world, especially with replay where you would
be able to see something like this. So I would
kind of challenge that theory if that's one of the
reasons why the officials are saying, well, we're allowing it
because we kind of allowed it in the past because
we couldn't see it and officiated well enough. Okay, sounds
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like you need to do a better job. And then
the third part that they'll probably most likely point to
is it's a play that's so greatly in the advantage
to the offense that I think the success right now.
We read earlier this year was like seventy percent. That's
for all teams. Now Philly is the best at doing
it and they're like seventy three, seventy four, but most
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teams when they utilize that are above seventy percent success rate.
So it then leads you to three potential issues that
you're facing from a competitive standpoint, a safety standpoint, and
then overall just looking at saying like we're in a
daate age where we could say, let's make this reviewable
if we feel like a player was pushed or advantaged
and that used to be a rule and we took
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it out because we feel like the seven guys on
the field can't see it well enough, then go fight
an af if that just looks for that, or use
replay to be able to see It's not like we
don't have an assortment of cameras to see this sort
of thing. So I think ultimately there will come a
time where this is removed from the league. I don't
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have a dog in the fight either way. I'm just
trying to explain to you why the rationale, why I
think Green Band other teams are trying to get rid
of it.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I just don't understand when it became okay to push
guys in the back.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
You know who the thought of the play. I read
this Anthony Barr from the Vikings, the linebacker. Yeah, kind
of threw it out as an idea, and then Sirianna
used it in Indianapolis and then brought it to Philly.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I just don't understand why you're allowed to push guys
in the back. Like, first off, there's the player safety
element of it. Why are you pushing another guy in
the back because this happens now a guy could be running,
which I find it to be so extraordinary sjordinarily funny.
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When I hear a guy calling the game say, oh,
look at the power, look at look at his drive,
say diatic, they can't stop him, look at him? And
you got two three hundred pound dudes pushing them like
and dragging them, Like what are you looking at?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
But I don't understand the idea of being able to
push the guy. It wasn't a part of the game
when I played. I don't I just don't understand when
that became okay to run up on Like you're running
back has mad. They've made contact with your running back.
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They make contact with your quarterback or your receiver and
here comes an offensive lineman or somebody, and instead of
you know, I don't know, waiting to help him up,
you're pushing him in the back like you're literally grabbing
him and trying to pull him or hitting him in
his pads, in his back and trying to push him
(32:59):
through the tacklers for more yards. I just don't understand
when that became commonplace for the game, because to me,
if that were taken away and taken out of the game,
then of course you can police a play like that,
because you shouldn't. If he goes down, if the quarterback
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goes down and finds an entry through the line of scrimmage,
or they pushed the line of scrimmage back the offensive line,
then it is what it is. I think where it
gets complex and it kind of gets out of the
realm of It doesn't look like a regular football play.
It doesn't seem to make sense. Is the guys pushing behind,
(33:42):
Like I just don't understand how you just load up
and we're just gonna push the front. We're gonna knife
the front, we're gonna push from behind, and we're gonna
outstrength your strength on the other side by pushing our
guy through Like, I don't. I don't buy that. I
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don't subscribe to that. I don't think it's safe for one,
and for two, I don't think it makes sense. That
just doesn't make logical sense to me, that guys are
allowed to get pushed and pulled. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
That is just from an optics standpoint, and that's you know,
Brady mentioned this earlier. That doesn't resemble football at any
point during the game.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I mean rugby.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
You get to do it in rugby, Yeah, but you
know you're getting scrums and stuff like that, and you
know you're pushing and guys are pushing and but there
that's different rules. There's a sport for that. Yes, we're
not rugby, and it's not there shouldn't be. If you're
gonna have a push that it shouldn't be a true scrum.
(34:49):
That's really a true scrum.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I don't what.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Happened to the old quarterback sneak, That's all I want
to know, all right, Like I didn't need someone to
push me in order to go forward and get a
first down. You know Tom really used that forever. He
never got the never stopped him. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I just don't understand that part of it, like why
are you pushing the guy? Like, I just don't get it.
That's that's what that's that's the biggest to me, that's
the biggest, most egregious part of the play.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Philly fans are going to take issue with this. You
guys know this, right, because they're Philly fans. That's what
they're gonna do. But the reality is, as jonas you
just pointed out, I want you to say again the
history of the actual play, because most thinking like Philly
invented it, it's like, well quite, not quite, this actually
started before that.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I perfect it was a defensive guy who had the
idea Anthony Barr for the tush push and then so yeah,
smart dude, smart guy. Uh Syrianna get ahold of it,
and Indy brought it to Philly and away we go,
brotherly shove tush push. I would like to see if
(35:58):
they decide.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
They want to keep you around that line. See, but I.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Would like to see it changed, just from the standpoint
of I want to see how Philly operates.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I want to see how Philly operates.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Without that at their disposal, Like I'm curious to see
what that does to them in shortyarded situations, what their
success rate goes down to. If anything, If they don't
have this sit there as an option for moving forward.
So who knows, maybe it'll get done. I do know this.
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Speaker 1 (38:04):
After that, we turn it over to our executive producer, Lead.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Lap Good more than everybody.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Good morning, LeVar, Good, Mordy Brdain, Good, Morny Jonas guys.
In case you missed this, UH coach Kirby Smart gave
a presentation at the Nike Coach of the Year Clinic
UH over the weekend and included a slide show picture
of Joe Burrow, Bryce Young, Cam Newton and Johnny Manziel.
He asked those at the clinic to say what was
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similar between all these players?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
One of these guys have in common. Speak up, Hosman quarterbacks,
champions he champion, champion of what?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Champion of fireball?
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Damn shots fired?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Lee, you gotta take that.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Tell us how you really feel? That seemed personal?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
That did seem a little personal.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Lee.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Don't let them talk to you like that.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Hey no, wow?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh Lee, is Johnny Manzil your favorite college football player ever?
Because you kind of relate with him? Right?
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Yeah, sure, Yeah, I've loved a party with Johnny be
good times.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Well that wasn't the question, but okay, no, he's not
my favorite.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Fault.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Who's your favorite? I don't know football player.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I got to Barry Sanders, I got two favorites.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Thank you, Jonas. That would have been the response I
got to.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
That would have been the proper r is a weirdo man,
Thank you, Thank thank you Jonas, Thank good job.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Riina. Who are your favorite?
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Probably it's LeVar Arrington and Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Two for two hooks.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Yeah, even got I know you love this. Brady one
of the listeners the other day said you're his favorite
and that you're so handsome, you're the most handsomest football
player he's ever seen.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
All that is true. It is, well, just hang out.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Don't get upset, Jonas because we made the Ponderosa thing
and you got exposed. Okay, what is pond Rosa?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
How Brady just assumed you knew I had to expose you?
So I don't think we had in California? Yeah, we had, Yeah,
not tough enough for We had Happy Steak in Thousand Oaks.
Growing up, there's a place called Happy Steak. That's it
really could go down at that buffet. Bro Oh yeah.
Oh if you're not.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Happy Steak, feels like it's like an innuendo for something else,
you know.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
You know now that they probably was in West Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Damn Lee, what else we got?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah? Well, guys, in case Lorna was just there, I mean,
are you off your meds?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
No?
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I'm not go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Uh, guys. In case you missed this.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Over the weekend, Vandre Campbell called out fans and multiple
NFL analysts over quitting allegations.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Back in December when he left the game in week fifteen.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
I'll give you a little bit of what he went
on Twitter at saying, listen, I'm sick of all y'all
bitch ass blanks jumps. Oh it's been two much and
I have yet to address the situation because I know
the truth and I don't care to clear anything up.
I'm by myself all the time. And if you want
any of them bitch ass blanks for the forty nine ers,
feel wow, feel some type of way, go with you
moan he told them blank, he put that, he so
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much to say about me gone, I have to stand
on them words next time I see them. I've been
standing on my business my whole life, and it's gonna
be that until I'm six feet under. That goes for
all of them old ass retired blanks that jumped on
TV speaking on my name. And they could have reached
out to me and heard it from the horse's mouth,
but they just took the forty nine ers with the
forty nine ers said it, ran with it, blank, y'all, blank,
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all y'all, t.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I mean, tell us how you feel.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
At least he stood on it, you know he did
stand on it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
That's a mic. What else we would do but yeah,
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