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The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by. Optimism is fading on the Niners. Plus, Lee’s Leftovers.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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mentioned it's a Wednesday, and that can only mean one thing.
A tradition on this show, A tradition on like any
other that you hear on sports radio. He's the one,
he's the only Petros Papadakis. He is the co host
of the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear
on the blowtorch AM five seven e LA, Sports, Fox,
College Football Analyst, and you can get him on X at.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
The old pe Petros. Good morning, Hello.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Good morning to everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Hello, Hello, Hello, looking forward to double dipping with you today.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
P Yes, I appreciate your help. I need some help today.

Speaker 6 (01:29):
No, we'll we'll have some nice Is that like looking
like that's going to become like a permanent thing, or
like you know, you're you're looking at the other time slot.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
You know, I don't know what he's I don't know
what he's doing. The show before us doesn't like to
work that much. Oh but oh my partner every year
does the Big Ten tournament for Compass Media. Oh and
so does my radio producer.

Speaker 7 (01:53):
Oh so they just leave you.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, I'm like Gene Hackman's lifeless Body of the ball.

Speaker 8 (01:59):
Geez, can we talk about that?

Speaker 7 (02:01):
By the way, too soon?

Speaker 9 (02:03):
I mean, the details of that whole thing are crazy.

Speaker 8 (02:08):
Didn't she died before him?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yes? So if you have elderly parents or a step
mom and an elderly dad, or vice versa, you might
want to check on him, you know, three or four
every three or four days anyway. I mean, you want
to talk more about it, that's fine. I just kind
of rat disease that happened to her and and he

(02:30):
just died.

Speaker 9 (02:31):
And then the dope But was he Wasn't he like
walking around the house with her dead inside?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, yeah, because he had late dementia or all time. Anyway,
they leave me alone in the house like a dog
in the house chasing its tail.

Speaker 7 (02:47):
They leave you alone, well they.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, So, I mean, and if the show's one hour
or something, I can do it by him. Actually I
could do it by myself either way. But they're bringing
in Jonas today to help me out. But the rest
of the work he's doing this week has nothing to
do with me.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, speaking of death, Petros, I saw this earlier. Coco
Ta passed away.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
The Yeah, Coco t was a great singer. I saw
him once in Long Beach. Now, Long Beach used to
have a every February for Bob Marley's birthday, or for
the month of Bob Marley's birthday, they would have a
reggae festival called Bob Marley Day in Long Beach at

(03:34):
the Long Beach arena, you know, the one with the
if you've seen it in Long Beach has all the
whales painted on it like that Wiland guy painted it.
So anyway, Coco TA was a great singer, and that
used to be the coolest reggae show because they got
real Jamaican acts. Now, I'd say ninety of the reggae

(03:56):
quote unquote festivals in southern California consist of white guy
reggae bands with names like you know, yeah that's Coco T.
Go home to your nana with Bougi bontan, I haven't
I had? You're too young to be my lover, girl,

(04:16):
won't you go home? Go home to your nana, your nana,
Go home to your nana. Yeah, you're nana. You're too
young to be my lover. If you're to be my lover,
oh you must be eighteen and over.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yah r Kelly went and singing that dumb lyrics. Oh geez,
probably the rest of he was.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Coco T had a beautiful voice. He was a dreadlock.

Speaker 7 (04:48):
He died.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
He died at a sixty five of cancer. But if
you're interested in a real smooth reggae singer, Coco T
was a beautiful singer Nice. The Good Life is a
really great song by Coco T many many and uh
it's really I saw that a bunch of people kept
texting me during the show pictures of Coco T and

(05:11):
all that, and I figured the worst that he had passed,
and it is that is the case. So there's a
little reggae news for you. That song go Home to
Your Nana has a version with b Bonton.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
Oh yeah, it's is very good Bojo bon Uh. Speaking
of beautiful. Uh, how do you feel about this, this
women's Big ten NCAA championship run here going on? I
mean how you feel about that usc U c l A.
You know, UCLA did what they needed to do. I
haven't thought much about it, all right, I was just curious.

(05:45):
I mean, the guys were taking shots at you.

Speaker 8 (05:49):
You have you thought much about a LaVar?

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yeah? Well I saw that they come into the Big
ten and and are doing well in the basketball. Arene
who won U c l A.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
There you go, and the coach Corey close. Uh it is.
It is kind of funny because you know women's basketball
or whatever you think is the reason it has made
a push. It's it's Caitlin Clark, I think. But Juju
Smith is a great player. There's no doubt about it.

(06:20):
She is a spectacular player. Excuse me, yeah, Juju Watkins,
Juju Smith is a different USC guy. And uh, I
just uh yeah. That shows you how much I pay attention.
I know more about Juju's anger toward her nil car
and how it's not good enough than I do about

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her actual play on the court. But I am I
am aware that she is a spectator. Bill Plashke came
on our radio show and said she's a combination of Lebron,
Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, John Stockton. You know. So it's
uh yeah, I mean you really up.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
So.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
So it is interesting because everybody talks about the Big
Ten and oh my god, no one's gonna be able
to compete. You know, how can you take these trips
and USC and UCLA in the first year in the
Big Ten go out and play for the championship. Obviously
not the case for the men's but UCLA's got a
pretty good chance in the Big Ten tournament for the

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men just in the fact that they don't have to
play those early games. They got to buy early, they
don't have to play till Friday morning. So I think
both the USC and UCLA did okay in the basketball
men's and women's.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
And y'all won it in football, so it's like yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
And then then you look at Oregon in basketball. They're
on a hot run. Dana Altman's a great coach. You know,
they're doing fine. So a lot of that is a
lot of just bloviation in the offseason for something.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
To talk about.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Not so much in wrestling though, p You know, no, no,
the wrestling is still held pretty firmly through the states
of like Iowa, Wisconsin, the Dakota, and the Great Stan.

Speaker 9 (08:05):
I was gonna say, I mean, Petros, did you grow
up wrestling? I mean, were you a wrestling kind of gallon?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You're young? No, but we had a wrestling team, you know.
I mean, I have issues, but I don't think spending
the football off season with my face in some guy's ass.
I was dang, you know. But but that being said,
what that was my thought about it when I was
a kid, like your face and that's just what it
looked like to me. They just had there, they were

(08:30):
like sitting there like just you know, my face is
like wedged in your crotch or your ass or you know,
I am straddling, you know, then they blow the whistle
and I just ate a bunch of honey and you
know the weird cutting weight and all that stuff.

Speaker 8 (08:47):
But so you know about the honey.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Oh yeah, I know about all of it. But that
I mean, gosh, I love the movie Vision Quest and
all that different stuff. But that being said, I don't
like it. Just didn't appeal to me. But now as
an older man, I realize, like, if you want leverage
in a real fight, if you want skills to move
people for the rest of your life, that high school

(09:11):
and college real single it wearing wrestling is really what
it is. I mean, that's where you really learn to
grapple and do all those things. But and those guys
could usually win any fight because of their skills that
they learned when they're young, but those skills to have
a face in some hairy ass were not. I did

(09:31):
not want them. I will not fartake. I don't want
it to see those guys running around and getting all,
you know, weird.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Anyway, Petros did the uh did the Celtics ruin the
what's it called?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Is in?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
The college rest? Sorry, Jonas, no college wrestling. I don't
care about the Celtics. The College Wrestling Hall of Fame
is in Oklahoma State is in Stillwater. That's right. You
can visit us, right. A bunch of pictures, a bunch
of guys with their faces at each other's ass. It's
like a human sen I'm sorry you're asking about the Celtic.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Well, no, I'm just saying, did they ruin the great
momentum that the Lakers had found the other night? Now
Lebron's injured, he's out for a little bit. Now, JJ
Reddick looks stressed out.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
Injury.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, it is interesting, you know. And I was just
thinking about pendulum swings in the world of sports, and
we have our twenty four hour sports media that we
react to everything in such a way. And it's interesting
because I remember, just I'm old enough to remember five
days ago when it came to the Lakers or six

(10:45):
days ago, and Lebron was going to win the MVP
over Sega and Joe Kits, the Lakers were going to
win the title. Dallas was going to burn to the
ground over NBA misfortune, which still might happen, and all

(11:06):
of a sudden, Lebron pulls is growing the Celtics win
the game, they turn around and lose to the terrible
Brooklyn Nets. Luca looks a little lethargic even though he
has a triple double, and all the talk has dissipated.
I mean, we interviewed Dave Roberts on the show yesterday,
the Dodger manager, not Juju Smith or Juju Watkins, Dave Roberts,

(11:30):
also known as Doc or the Skipper of the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I like to just call him Dave, because I mean,
my proclivity is to call every guy coach, and you
can't call the baseball manager coach. That's a real snaffoo.
So you have to call him skipper if you want.
But he's not my skipper. I don't play on that team,
So that's a little odd.

Speaker 9 (11:53):
By the way, by does that does that conversion happen
at the pro level, because I mean, they're technically.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, at the program, still a coach.

Speaker 8 (12:01):
Yeah until after until college.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Right in high school and in college you are the
baseball coach. Uh, maybe it's still not uh you say
you're the baseball coach, but I believe that it's still
not kosher to call them coach in an interview, or
I don't think the players would call them coach if
that's a if that's helpful, But baseball culture is very

(12:25):
odd anyway. Uh, this is an example about how quickly
the Lakers thing went away, not that they're totally going
to go away. And Lebron's always a story and apparently,
you know, five out of the last six marches he's
missed and gone to Germany to get some special Kobe
Bryant shot or something and come back. But uh, but
like Dave Roberts in the in the playoffs last year

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with the Padres, his back was against the wall and
his d was in the dust, and if the Dodgers lost,
he was gonna get fired right back.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
To the.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Because in the dust, the dust to dust to dust. Hey,
you think you would have been fired?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I mean another playoff implosion against division rival that you
dominated throughout the season. If they had lost to the
Padres when the Padres had their back against the wall,
I wouldn't have been surprised if they had pulled the trigger.
And then next thing you know, they turn around and
they win the World Series. They have a parade. It's

(13:27):
the most celebratory sports time in Los Angeles history. That
I can ever remember, because the Dodgers are a great
equalizer in Los Angeles sports. I mean, it was an
absolute orgy in town and it continues to be with
their signings and all the money they're making with these
Japanese players. And just think about that pendulum swing. I mean,

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Dave Roberts went from within the span of three or
four days or a week and a half ends up
from being fired to being a Hall of Fame manager
and a guy who's won two World Series and now
they're heavily favored to win in twenty twenty five, and
that'll be the first back to back World Series winner

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since ninety nine two thousand, since the last century. So
it's pretty impressive and it is pretty interesting, and I
don't think it's just La where it happens, but because
we have such a heavy media market and influence, and
the Lakers are talked about ad nauseam and people are
finally discussing that about what a national radio travesty the

(14:33):
Lakers and Cowboys are for national TV and radio. But
it's just very interesting how quickly that changed, and it
changed really quickly as far as the positivity and the
Lakers story. I mean, it led everything for the two
three weeks that they were doing it, And now Lebron's out,
you know, somewhere getting a blood transfusion, and Luca looks

(14:57):
fat and they just lost to a terrible team. They're
on a trip and I mean, they're going to be
in the playoffs and it'll be interesting and exciting, I'm sure,
but it's certainly not the Chicago fire of a story
that it was a week ago.

Speaker 9 (15:11):
Yeah, Petros want to switch gears a little bit as
approaching spring. It sounds like Petro's there's a lot of
positive momentum there is Southern Cow. It sounds like with
this mistaff changes the recruiting everything. It sounds like it's
kind of I guess boarding the hype train for Southern Cow.
Is that your impression of the Trojans heading into twenty

(15:33):
twenty five.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
When you have an off season hype train and you're
about a five hundred team during the season, it does
beg to beg the question if you're throwing off season parties,
you're not throwing in season party like that's kind of
that's sort of been the trend and the one thing

(15:55):
us SEE has done differently. Brady and it's a very
modern college football thing, and it's your guy, the guy
from Notre Dame, and maybe you probably have more perspective
on it, and I certainly don't want to get in
a fight about it. But that Boden guy. At first,
when you saw his name Bowden spelled, you thought it
was Bobby Bowden's grandson.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
His name is it's actually Jim Bowden's son.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, Jim Bowden, the Reds guy who's a longtime radio
contributor and I think he works at serious MLB.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Now did a show it on FSR here on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I had a nice guy, right, Like I really liked
Jim Bowden. I always thought he was really interesting. Not
everybody liked him, but I liked him. And his son
became a really really prevalent football administrator GM type at Cincinnati,
of course, where they're from, and then to Notre Dame
where he helped Marcus Friedman build that team. I guess,

(16:51):
and I mean I don't know the details.

Speaker 8 (16:53):
Well that's what they've sold you guys on yes.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, Well, now he's heating. He's here, and whether he's
selling people on it or not, he's certainly saying all
the right things, and he's saying things that Lincoln Riley,
he's saying things that Lincoln Riley kind of has been
deficient on. Right. He talked about how important it is
for USC. Look, there's only two paths and it's the same.

(17:17):
You have to be on both paths if you need
to have success. If you're going to have success at USC,
you need to recruit the area with absolute relentlessness and
dominate the area in recruiting because that's their formula for success,
and you need to develop those recruits, especially on your

(17:38):
defensive and offensive line. It's not rocket science. We've talked
about it in a long time, and that's what Boden
has been talking about and talking about being a bigger
presence in the Southern California recruiting scene and football scene,
which is not at all what Lincoln Riley was doing.
He was concentrating on Texas and Georgia. And it's great

(18:02):
to have national recruits at USC. Plenty of great recruits
they've had have come from from other states far from
the West, but that is not their formula for success.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
And why I mean Lincoln Rileson paid a lot of
money and ultimately, I mean, forget the GM recruiting guy whatever,
like players play.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
That's the positive offseason dude, Well, no, I.

Speaker 8 (18:26):
Guess yeah, I get that.

Speaker 9 (18:28):
What I'm asking is because you're bringing up the point
that like Lincoln Riley, for whatever reason, didn't take that
approach when.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
He took the job, which not only that he leaked
to Cowherd to sit there and say that LA and
California players aren't good anymore.

Speaker 9 (18:45):
Which which doesn't make any sense because I feel like
any head coach that takes that job is taking it
for the fact that he probably doesn't have to leave
the state to get the players that he needs.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
No, I feel what you're saying, Brady. I mean, it's
very it's problem that us he needs to hire a.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
Guy to then tell him that you can't hire a
consulting agency or someone to give you pay them one
hundred thousand to come up with a big PowerPoint presentation.
Go hey, by the way, there's a lot of talent
here in southern California. You can just recruit these guys.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Look at his job. Yeah, they're getting them, and his
job is to fill the gaps. This guy, and I
think it speaks to the point that overall that you'd
probably want to make Brady is Lincoln Riley's been deficient
at USC. He's gotten worse every year. Worse than that,
he hasn't endeared himself to the fan base or the

(19:39):
culture and tradition of the place, And you have to
admit the place has that, and there's a way to
do it, and he's not done it. And it's one
hundred million dollar buyout. So they've got to fix the
yard around the rotten house to make it look presentable,
and that seems to be what they're doing. Does that
mean they can have success? I don't know, but yeah,

(20:03):
it's going to take a lot of convincing for me
to say Lincoln Riley's a great fit at USC and
that it's not a higher that they regret today. I
would say that that's a pretty strong Yes, it's a
higher that they regret. But the offseason hype train that
you alluded to is because of this GM guy, because
I don't think they're athletic. Director Jen Cohen has the

(20:25):
power or the Jews, or the ability or the support
to fire Lincoln Riley or the finances to do it.
And this is just something to help bolster a message
that should have been spread years ago about USC football.
It should have never ended that you need to recruit locally.

(20:45):
You need to build a fence around the lineman locally
and don't let them go to Oregon and Washington to
be developed by freaking Dan Lanning and Kaylin de boor
for God's sakes, now, they're not going to go play
for fish.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Please, you don't think not the lineman.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
This guy, Brady Smigel, Mike. But it is interesting, like USC,
maybe the top three, three or four of the top
ten recruits in California now are committed to SC. They've
got sixteen guys in this class who are LA guys.
So it seems like a little bit of a vibe shift.
Will it be enough for the whole culture of the
program to compete with the Irish, the great Notre Dame

(21:24):
fighting Irish with Chad Bowden left for whatever reason, I
do not know.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Yeah, that's unfortunate.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, Petro, so we do know this. We're happy to
have you every single week.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
It's gonna you get to talk to him a little later.
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, oh.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, you got a two hour jaunt around the Los
Angeles sports landscape.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
By the way, I got dead guy of the day,
just letting you know.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
So who drives the show? Petro?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Want to go much more detail about that? Huh No, No,
I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Does Jonas drive the show or do you drive the show?

Speaker 7 (22:00):
True?

Speaker 8 (22:01):
Does he his shoe? Petros?

Speaker 9 (22:03):
Is that a segment where you just look up in
the obituaries to see, like, what dead guy you're reading about?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
No, No, it's more of a history. I've done it since.
I mean I've done it for twenty plus years. I
mean history is made up of people, right, So you
find a person that's dead that was born today, and
you write a little story about them, you know, two
or three minutes about what they accomplished or whatever. You
find somebody that's alive that was born today, you tell

(22:31):
a story about them, and that's your dad and a
live guy birt to today.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (22:35):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, uh, Petro. So we will do it again next week.
I'll talk to you later today. We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
Yeah, I look it up.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
He's on the hype train.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm on it.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
He's on it, Shoe, he's right next.

Speaker 8 (22:50):
He's not on the caboose, but on a train. He's
with the conductor.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
He's on front train me and Chad Bowed and his dad.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
Yeah yeah, your face is well.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Human centipede with the honey for the big tip title, Oh.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
My God, easy cost of the Petrous Money Show and
a Fox College Football analyst as well too. It is
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio coming up next here though for some reason,
there's still optimism about a team in the NFL and
it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
We'll explain who we're talking about next year on FSR.

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Speaker 5 (24:05):
Fifteen minutes from.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Now from the tireq dot Com scholars, we are going
to have another edition of Lee's Leftover?

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Is that be yours?

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Here again fifteen minutes from now on Fox Sports Radio.
Just a question, question for the crew. Anybody has a
as an answer. I just would love some clarity on this.
What are the Niners doing? What is the melting away?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
What is is that?

Speaker 7 (24:38):
What it is?

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yes, Leonard Floyd dissipating into nothing.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
He was another Niner that was let go by the team.
He's now in Atlanta, goes back home to the Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
He is signed a one.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
Year deal there.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
He follows along the long list of forty nine ers
that are no longer with the team, Guys by the
name of Deebo, samuel A and Banks, Kyle Hughescheck, Javon Hargrave,
Dre Greenlaw, Tarvarius Ward. I don't know, feels like it
feels like there's a lot of loss that's taking place
here with the Niners, and yet for.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Some Reasontz still optimism. Oh yeah, still optimism.

Speaker 8 (25:20):
Who's optimistic?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Well, our friends of DraftKings are optimistic. The Niners still
the favorite to win the NFC West. The Niners are
still uh, you know, third, behind the Eagles and the Lions.
According to the odds, the shortest odds to win the
NFC at seven to one.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
Yeah, can you can you shorten seem I mean, I
guess you could just take the under of their over
underwin tuttle.

Speaker 10 (25:48):
But let me see what we could do to uh yeah,
kind of manipulate. We need to change the gambling game. Yeah,
let's see if we could take advantage exactly. Possibly I
do a bet for them not to make the playoffs.
Nothing right now.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
It is just to go over the defensive moves, by
the way, Leonard Floyd gone, Travarius Ward gone, Dre greenlaw
Telenohu Funga, you had hard Grave, Elie Collins, you mentioned
you check obviously on the offensive side, I mean the
potentially still trading Brandon Ayuk wasn't on the trade block.
You know, Debo's not there anymore. McCaffrey will see how

(26:27):
he recovers from the injury. But Kills getting up there
in age. Trent Williams is getting up there in age.
There's a lot of pieces on this team that it
feels like they're turning over, and I just I don't
know how you can be overly optimistic when I feel like, Look,
Kyle Shannan is an unbelievable play caller. He's maximized brock Perty,
He's maximized a lot of different pieces. But there's gonna

(26:50):
be a learning curve. And defensively speaking, you get Robert
sala back who's got experience being there, but it's not
the same talent I feel like they had before.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
And if you're a coach and you're a really good coach,
it doesn't matter unless you have really good talent. I mean,
at the end of the day, no coach is overcoming
another coach that got has players that has talent.

Speaker 7 (27:13):
It just doesn't happen that way. So I just wonder.
It makes me a question.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
It makes me ask the question, what is are there
are there any players out there that lend to the
bounce back, like, oh, that's why they did this?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Like do they have.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Players on their roster right now? That makes you feel
that way that we're just not talking about. I just
it's it's interesting because you know, it's funny Lamont Roach
that just fought Tank that you know Deabronte Davis. You
know he probably won that fight, but he was actually

(27:55):
a relatively unknown to most people out here, even though
he's been really good for a long time. And I
just wondered, do you have a guy that do you
have guys in the wings that have been good for
a while or have been developing for a while that
you feel confident in letting all of these these name
brand players go, because these aren't just players you're letting go.

(28:17):
These aren't just cap hit casualties. These are names, these
are these are major names. At one point, Deebo Samuel
was the MVP of your team. At some point. You know,
you're looking at Greenlaw and you're like, I know this.
Fred Warner was not the same player without green Law

(28:39):
in there. And I'm a big I'm a big Fred
Warner fan. He was not the same player void the
presence of Greenlaw. So my question is, do you really
think with these, with these departures that the San Francisco
forty nine ers won the d fence took a step

(29:00):
back this year anyway, But do you see them taking
a step further back the offense? You don't have really
any weapons from what he's had. If if, if, if
Christian doesn't come back healthy enough to do or stay
healthy enough, what else do you have?

Speaker 7 (29:21):
Well, let me see what's to well, we know what
he's though. Oh yeah, you better dive deep into that one.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
And whoa, why don't why don't we give Jonas a
few moments just to really basket his deep research. He's
doing the other thing I think you'd have to talk
about because you have to talk about the divisions, right,
And I know earlier kind of getting on Jonas because
he likes to talking about the NFC North. We were
talking about the Vikings, but it's always about how it
impacts his Chicago Bears. In this case, we're talking about

(29:48):
the forty nine ers. But if you look at the
rest of the NFC West, like Seattle seems to be
a team that is in a little bit of state
of flux. So I'm not sure, you know, Yeah, they
got Sam Darnold there, but they moved on from Lockett
and Metcalf and who knows what their defense looks like.
And they really struggled last year. So outside of the Seahawks,
I mean, the Rams were awesome last year. They get
Stafford back.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
To Adams, they eat it up down the stretch.

Speaker 9 (30:12):
Yeah, but even then, like the Rams are gonna be formidable,
that's gonna be a tough team within the division. And
the Cardinals everyone's sleeping on and I don't know why
because they were eight to nine last year. This is
a team that you know, they signed Browning, Evan brown, Beacham,
They've got a backup in Jacoby Brissett. I think you
feel good about if Kyler Murray gets hurt. They got
Josh Sweat. That's another piece. And if you look at

(30:34):
what they lost, like yeah, you know there's some pieces
they lost, but it doesn't seem as significant as what
they've been able to either sign or acquire. So I
look at the Cardinals as like that that sleeper where
if you look at two teams that I'd be high
on in this division, it's the Rams and the Cardinals
were like slowly. The Cardinals are kind of and this

(30:54):
is more Jonas's team. Jonas called and shot on the
Cardinals last year. They didn't quite make the playoffs, but
they were close. I mean, they were an eight and
nine football team and some close calls away from potentially
being there. So that's another team that like kind of
keep your eye. I feel more optimistic about the Cardinals
and where they've they've been the past couple of years
than they do where the San Francisco forty nine ers

(31:15):
are going Uh.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Christian McCaffrey has been valient this this offseason apparently or
hard training this year. He's, uh, well, he's been shooting
up the club and damn apparently he hit he hit something.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Well, now you got to did you miss that announcement
on us had.

Speaker 7 (31:37):
A body Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they you know, he's.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
I just didn't think that correlate to some calf injuries,
your achilles injuries.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
I mean maybe I don't see why I wouldn't, but
then again, you would know. You know, you're good at
that too. You know, you're trust me, You're valid.

Speaker 8 (31:58):
Never had any caff or achilles issues with you.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
You've had foot injury. You you've been balin in the
club yourself.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
But it hasn't held me back from able to per form.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
It has not.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Benjamin Albright uh.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Of of KOA was on UH with the with a
station in the Bay Area and he said that the
Niners in brock Purty are far apart on a contract.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
So I don't know if this is something that's going
to drag out or if it eventually gets.

Speaker 9 (32:29):
To I mean, you know it's it's going to be
the one of the most difficult contracts because if you
look at brock Purty, you're you're not coming away saying
this is a guy that's going to be able to
sustain what they've been able to do with what they've had, Like,
he doesn't have that dynamic ability of Lamar Jackson, the
arm of Josh Allen or Patch Mahomes, and that.

Speaker 8 (32:52):
Would be a bit concerning.

Speaker 9 (32:53):
And I know he's played well in spots, and I'm
not trying to say he's he's a game manager, but
you know, he probably wants to be paid because of
what he's done and what their team's done, similar to
guys like Joe Burrow, like Josh Allen, and I just
feel like there's gonna be a hard time for him

(33:14):
to get there over the life of a contract, in
part because of the other studs they've got on the roster,
but also because if you're looking at him, you're like,
I don't know, man. Again, go back through the history
of Kyle Shannon quarterbacks and Kyl Shannon's offense, they've.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
Usually bawled out. It's usually been And that was one
of the.

Speaker 9 (33:31):
Most damning signs for Trey Lance was he wasn't able
to have the sort of production that a lot of
other quarterbacks have had in Kyle Shanahan's system.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see. But day listen,
they got to two super Bowls, they had their shot,
did it with two different quarterbacks, and.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
He's got but he's got to be able to say
I played in the Super Bowl as your quarterback. Call me,
game manager, call me what you want to call me.
I was your quarterback and you made it to a
super Bowl. Pay me or don't, but don't wait so long.
Give me an opportunity. Let me get up out here,
let me see what's going on. Obviously my other teammates

(34:09):
want to roll up out of here too, So I
just don't think. I do not think San Francisco has
any leverage to not sign back brock Party.

Speaker 7 (34:20):
I just don't.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
And if we're thinking that, oh, maybe it exists right
now where they could sign another quarterback that will come
in and be just as good under the circumstances currently
that exists in San Francisco.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
Good luck with that. Yeah, good luck with that.

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Speaker 3 (35:37):
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
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Speaker 1 (35:39):
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Speaker 8 (35:40):
Sounds incredible?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
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Speaker 5 (35:48):
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Speaker 11 (35:49):
Will Fellas we all know, DeVante Adams is headed to
la and the question was what number would he be done?
And will Pukin Nakua has announced that he's given him
his number seventeen and he's going back to his roots
wearing twelve.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
All right, he thoughts on cool.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
I don't think there's any thoughts on I mean, you
know that's there's dudes out there that's just cool like that.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
He poo couldn't have cool. It seems like he's one
of them type dudes. So do you have to shell
out any cash for it?

Speaker 8 (36:16):
Weren't they going to play like horse or pig or
something for it?

Speaker 11 (36:20):
It sounds like Puka wants number twelve. It's what he
wore ever since through Yeah yu.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
Yeah, so there you go. Good for him, but probably
couldn't get twelve coming right out.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
Maybe it wasn't available to him, so it probably works out.
So maybe I'm giving him too much credit for being
a good dude. Maybe he was just plotting to be
able to get free of the number seventeen. He got
an opportunity.

Speaker 7 (36:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
I mean maybe that's strategically smart. He sound in his
thought process like, oh, I could get out of seventeen
and get to my number without having to pay for
all of these jerseys.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
It's a good move, Davante do it?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (37:01):
Oh there you go?

Speaker 7 (37:01):
All right? What else? What else?

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Guys?

Speaker 11 (37:03):
You know, we love Southwest, but people are pretty upset
about come on, come on, come on, que bags fly free.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
What's been canceled?

Speaker 7 (37:11):
The one thing going for him, Well.

Speaker 8 (37:14):
It's it's canceled for a certain class of passenger.

Speaker 9 (37:19):
So if you are booking, they're like a lists business,
select it's and if your a lists preferred, you still
get it. But for I think any it's like any
time and then down to one to get away. And
now they have a basic plan which is even cheaper,
and there's non reflectable there's all these different things. So yes,
unfortunately for Southwest, the cattle call of the air, they've

(37:44):
had to adjust a little bit, try to make some
more revenue.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
And it's I don't know what.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
It's going to work out, just saying no more.

Speaker 9 (37:50):
Oh, by the way, remember they promised to to get
away with the cattle call. Yeah, I've continually got updates
on this. It ain't happen until twenty twenty six. Basically,
there's a bunch of issues as far as some of
the planes, how those planes are configured there. I believe
their technology too. And this is all coming from flight

(38:11):
attendants who have spoken to on those airlines. But there's
there's a lot of like hoops to jump through, so
I wouldn't expect that until twenty twenty six. And if
you're also expecting any sort of upgraded seating in regards
to like a first class esque type configuration, that ain't
happening either.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yeah, any good news in Southwestern Wow.

Speaker 12 (38:36):
Rode over, get your tickets, b your bike right all
over here.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
It's the best one. It's the best.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
That's that's the best, A right, they kids your tickets
over here? Hey, Lorena was the over gates? Was the
flight walked through? Sixth Lorena was the flight?

Speaker 7 (39:00):
Don't you missed?

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Was that a Southwest flight?

Speaker 12 (39:02):
No?

Speaker 11 (39:03):
Avolo?

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Oh what a below? You've never done Vello?

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (39:07):
Yeah, fight like South America and Central America.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
I've never heard of.

Speaker 11 (39:11):
They go to Oregon all the time.

Speaker 8 (39:13):
Orgon the organize light to my hometown.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
I gotta figure out how to get to Oregon. So yeah,
I don't know that.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Flights to seventy Bucks.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (39:22):
I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
I know I'm gonna do that, but we'll figure it out,
all right. Well, everybody have a great day.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
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