March 19, 2025 • 52 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, it’s a big moment for Bengals ownership but Burrow deserves credit for getting Chase and Higgins paid. The Old P, Petros Papadakis jumps on to talk about the Tokyo Series for the Dodgers. The Vikings say they’re done pursuing Aaron Rodgers, so is the fatigue real?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple with
lamar As rating Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Popping it over here.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I mean, dudes have done it in the locker room,
and I think that that's really really very shaky business man.
I've never done it.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
They pop it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I don't like it, just being honest, pop uncomfortable, pop bottles, bitch,
I mean, and I do that with you. That's the
only popping I do.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
But it's like that, Yeah, yeah, guys do that in
the locker room.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
It's happened for It's very uncomfortable. If you see somebody
who it seems to have become more of a trend
at one point, long long after my days.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Of being in the locker room. But yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
There's all kinds of dudes locker and doing stuff these days.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Man, that's true, very uncomfortable. That's that's weird. But here's
what's not weird. It's not weird.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
The Cincinnati Bengals have two stud wide receivers and.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They are locked up. That kind of is weird. They
are locked up that they paid them.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Yeah, actually for Cincinnati, right, Yeah, they actually figured out
a way to get it done. So Jamar Chase t
Higgins were meeting with the media yesterday and they were
talking about Joe Burrow's impact on getting the deals done.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
I think it's a big help him just putting out
little information. Having our back, you know, I think that's
the biggest thing, especially coming from a quarterback. You know,
it's different if me and TV Washton for somebody else
before our quarterback to vos Fos, I think that's given us,
you know, a pathway to get us where we got here.
I think it helped, you know, you know, a guy
like him one guys like us to you know, stick
(02:01):
around and you know, play with him for the next
four years.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Is I feel like it?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Definitely, and definitely do. So you want stuff done, you
go to the quarterback. That's how it works.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, if you want stuff done, you got to have
a quarterback like Joe Burrow. Don't try don't try to
exercise that logic with every single quarterback.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
Actually, let's exercise that logic for a second, because trust me,
the court, the quarterbacks who are not Joe Burrow are
like begging the front office for guys like Jamar Chase
and Tiggans.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
They're like, no, no, I need more help.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
I need everyone, Like we need the old Liede, We
need the wide receivers to be as good as humanly
possible to help out my game. Like, Joe Burrow is
one of the type of guys that I mean, he
wants it because he wants to win a Super Bowl.
And obviously, you know Jamar Chase has played with for
a while in te Higgins now, but Chase, obviously their
relationship extends back to college.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean it's they're your guys, they're your boys.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
But like he could probably still be really successful in
the NFL without, you know, having those guys because he's
that talented of a player. So you can actually make
the case that, like, yes, to LaVar's point, Joe Burrow
is the type of quarterback that can get the fun
office to do it. But trust me, every quarterback's like, yeah,
I'd love to have that. I would love to have
(03:18):
a Jamar Chase t Higgins by one two and then
get Secy at tight end.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Hell yeah, Like they'll sign up for that any day
of the week.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
But for office, like, we're not gonna be here long, pal,
so we're not We're not worried about you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
We're trying to find I got to replace you.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I mean, but good for them, Good for them that
that they did get it done, and you know it
is they they have some talent there. Now, question is,
like Chrisco said, what are they going to do on
the defensive side of the ball, because that's gonna be
the biggest question.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
They're not gonna do a damn thing. It's gonna shootouts
every single week. It's gonna be fantasy football galore. Everyone's
gonna love watching this team score fifty points a game.
So I think they picked their lane and that's what
they're going to be staying in. But I'm kidding. I
think they're gonna try it, obviously to get Henderson done.
But you know, he's just one piece of it. And
(04:13):
he's thirty years old and his last two years has
been phenomenal. But typically teams they look at you different.
You know, you turn thirty, they kind of look at
you like, oh man, you know you don't look the
way you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Still look before.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's not nice, just how it is.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Just it's kind of like Leonardo DiCaprio when any of
his girlfriends turned twenty four, He's like, Okay, it's been nice.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You're not seeing twenty five?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Is that he is at the cutoff? He hasn't ventured
past the quarter century mark.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
If he has, it's been like few and far between.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
But yeah, Lee, do you have any further information on that?
Leonardo DiCaprio, Like, what's the the age range we're looking at?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Looking like the oldest goes to uh Victoria Siretti, who
was twenty six.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Oh wow, yeah, ancient, wow, ancient really really challenged himself there,
finally able to get a rental.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Car shopping in in the older aisle for him. How
about that?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Now, Jamar Chase uh did talk about Cincinnati and maybe
had not so kind things to say about a certain
aspect of Cincinnati yesterday.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Let's take a listen for me.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
I like Cincinnati because it gives me the opportunity to
come here and focus. You know, I'm not distracted out here.
It's not too much too many things to get me,
you know, off pace out here, you know, and it's
strictly what I'm focused on. That's really television for me
to play football. So I mean, at the end of
the day, the food's not the best. We could work
on that, but I'm not used to the.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Food yet it's insane. That's not shade. I mean, it's
just he's you know New Orleans people. That's like their thing,
like food snobbing, like that's their thing though, because they
do all that seasoning and all that stuff. They eat
a lot of different things, and I thought it was
selling delicacies and stuff. It's not selling candy ons. I
mean that too, but they do that all over the
(06:09):
country though, you know, stupid we have Eminem's sneakers bars, you.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Know have Can I throw this out there?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Though, apparently Jamar Chase has ever been to Covington right
across the river there, because it's been a lot of
Bangles players who found themselves in some trouble with some
extra currical activities there.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So uh yeah, maybe maybe he doesn't need to go
across the river there.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It's good for him price.
Speaker 8 (06:35):
I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Don't think you would forget some of the issues that
the Bangles have had through the years. It's probably over
fifteen years ago, but still they had some players.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Have some issues.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I'd assume that that two chain song was playing across
the bridge. You know, pop it, you know pop that
make that money. Yeah, that that type of covetingtech. I'm
just assuming, though I could be wrong, but I'm just
assuming that doesn't that Jeff Rubies of a steakhouse. Isn't
there Jeff Rubies. Yes, there's multiple Jeff Rubi's restaurants there. Yes, Jeff,
(07:08):
and he's fantastic, it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I would assume Jamar Chase has been there.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
But one interesting anecdote to all this is now the Bengals,
if you're a call, they tagged at t Higgins and
then they were reportedly going to trade him. Which I
bring that up because what's interesting about them getting a
long term deal is the timing of all of it.
(07:37):
They went to the combine and then after the combine,
well they signed the long term deal. We don't see
that we like. That's exactly I think they looked. They
looked at where they're drafting. They looked at this particular
class at least early on, saying like, you know, could
we find someone that was going to be able to
(07:58):
come in and give us an immediate impact to compete
potentially win a Super Bowl? Uh that that that we
feel confident And obviously that wasn't really the case. And
that's kind of been the conversation around the wide receiver
position for this particular draft. It's it's not to take
away from any of the players. People just look at
(08:19):
it and say, we're waiting on Jeremiah Smith, right, We're
waiting on you know, a talent like that, or someone's
gonna get those services. And and you you see a
couple of players like that and you go wow, like
right away as a freshman, they have that sort of impact.
So imagine like what they're going to be like here
a couple a couple of years down the road.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I think when you you look at that those deals
both getting done, it is interesting that they did do
it after the combine, which would probably lend to what
you just said. I also look at it from the
standpoint of you don't want in this scenario, there's no
reason to disrupt you know, what's going on. If Joe
(09:05):
Burrow has gone to back because they made it a
point to talk about his influence on these deals getting done,
you don't want.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
To disrupt that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So even if there was a receiver that could replace
the you know, the presence or the production that T
Higgins was bringing to the table, if Joe Burrow is really,
really adamant about the idea of keeping these two together
for what it is they're trying to get done on
the offensive side of the ball. I mean, that's a
(09:38):
you know, that's a really big decision that that front
office has to make. Are you are you going to
put yourself in a position where Joe Burrow is looking
at you guys like y'all don't want to win, like
i'ma I'm gonna take my money, I'm gonna take my lumps,
and I'm up out of here first chance I can
get up out of here. Or are you going to
(09:58):
continue to build the relationship with because he truly is
a generational talent. I mean, I don't think anybody's going
to debate that at this point. And so to me,
I still think that it comes down to the fact
that Joe Burrow went to back and he was there.
He was their champion in those and their advocate in
(10:21):
some real conversations like can we do it without these guys?
Maybe it wasn't even a question of can we do
it without this guy or this guy? Maybe it was
really truly a conversation of Joe Burrow making it a
point to drive the drive it home that this is
not going to be good if we're and he said
it as much in public, it's not going to be
(10:41):
good letting the players that make us what we are,
make us a good team, a competitive team, letting them
go it's not you don't want to make a habit
of that. I think that that's probably I mean, I
think this just continues to go down the lane of
Joe Burrow's influence is so so strong there that I
don't know, I don't know that there would be any
(11:04):
circumstance other than t Higgins not being willing to come
to the table for less than what Jamar Chase was getting,
outside of Higgins being you know, not sensible about what
the check was going to be. I think Joe Burrow
advocated strongly enough for them to be signed back.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Do you guys there was a report out that one
of the strategies to Higgins used was he signed up
with the same agent that Jamar Chase had before the year.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Who was that? Who's their agent? I don't I don't
think it was Uh, it wasn't your people. I don't
think it wasn't your guy. I don't believe it was him.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Do you think that had anything to do with being
able to get this deal done, like they had any
impact on them being able to get it done because.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Him these days, it was allowed.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The probably Rocky Arsenal I believe is Jason Lambert Kaylin Ioki,
I think those are the agents?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Ever heard of them? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Yeah, I Alliance Sports Management. I think I think it
could have helped, but I don't know how much of
a factor it played. To be honest with you, I
think Joe Burrow's impact probably played the most on this
deal getting done, and and I mean there should be
some client confidentiality between the two. It always helps when
you know that agent knows exactly what Jamar Chase is getting.
But if we're being honest with ourselves, I don't think
(12:30):
there's a world in which t Higgins thought he was
gonna get paid the same as Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
There's just not.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I mean, you can't look at his career and compare
to Jamar Chase and in any any singular year think
that he's been more productive or a better wide receiver.
So I look that agency might have a great relationship
or a good relationship with the Bengals, which helps, And
obviously it's you know, if T. Higgins wants to stay
(12:55):
and play with Joe Burrow and stay in Cincinnati and
to keep playing with Jamar Chase, you know, it makes
it a little easier then because you've got an agent
who's working on both receivers and trying to figure out
a way of keeping them there. And I think for
the long term, for that agency and those receivers, it
helps to.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Be having a quarterback like Joe Burrow because they can
get another.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Bite at the apple here probably three years with a
year left on each one of these deals, and if
they won a Super Bowl by then, I'm sure the
Bengals are going to feel motivated to want to run
it back and keep signing these guys and keeping them
if they're still playing a high level.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So it probably helped in some ways.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I just at the end of the day, I think
the Bengals wanted to please Joe Burrow and they wanted
to make sure that they could stay in this opportunity
to have both these players and really a one A
one B right, because T.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Higgins could be a one somewhere else maybe.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
But having these two in particular puts a lot of
pressure on opposing defenses and in particular Kansas City, because
that is the team you have to get by and
if you don't have the horses to outscore them right
in that final moments of the game, to be able
to go out in the field and say no, no, no,
if we have the ball last, we win this game.
Because that's what this game has kind of become nowadays
(14:08):
in the NFL, and in particular if you're in the AFC,
having those receivers, having even Giseki because they've signed him
back and he kind of flew into the radar, but
he's a big piece of this too. That puts so
much pressure on everyone else to be able to keep
pace with them in an offensive league. So they've prioritized
Burrow and they've prioritized their offense and receivers and park
(14:31):
is the day and age that we're in. And you
kind of keep going back to last year how bad
that defense was. Well, look, Trey Hendrickson was great, He's
been great the past couple of seasons, but it still
really didn't have an impact at the end of the
day on how poor their defense played.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
You know, it's just sicky. I've been trying not to
say it, just sicky. Yeah, it's just sicky.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It's with a J.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's like g is like good, like that's what I'm saying,
putting the E in there.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And I'm gonna get in trouble if I don't correct
it because I'm letting it go. But I'm gonna get
in trouble next time I go. I'm gonna get in
trouble if I don't. I've been trying. It's an I.
You got to say it with an I, not a E.
Not yeah, but it's at the beginning. It's it's like
you got it right at the beginning, but you go
(15:22):
right sicky, sicky, Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Got it now. Yeah. I was just trying to let
you go with it though, you know what I mean.
I didn't want to jump in on it. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But you know, I don't want people making fun of
me or you know.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
It's no, it's all good, get sick. Yeah, there you go.
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's all goodsacky entire like those seis. Yeah, right, that's
what it is. But that and it's a great point,
by the way, and listen again, I think the biggest
question now become what are they going to do on
the defensive side of the ball, because that is the
(16:04):
biggest hole that they have to feel, figure out and
feel for this team. What do you do moving forward?
Is that going to be addressed? Do they have enough
draft capital to build it? In the draft? Can they
bring in enough guys? I don't even know what their
their drafts, you know, picks are and where they're at,
but I would assume you know that they feel confident
(16:26):
at where they're at on on the offensive side. So
now you've locked all those things up, it's it's going
to be a real focus on how do you stop
the pass? How do you get to the quarterback you
just lost? Basically you're in that sence, you're you're losing
both your ends.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I mean, you you lost. I want to hope I'm
getting the right Hubbard is a Hubbard similar Hubbard?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, I mean you lost him, You lose him to retirement,
and you're not trying to sign Hendrickson back. That's a
tremendous in itself. Those are tremendous holes to fill if
you're the Cincinnati Bengals. So what are you going to
do about that? And how do you improve your secondary?
(17:13):
That's I mean, I really believe that if they can
figure that out, which I don't know that they have
enough resources to figure that out. You know, how do
you replace the most productive pass rusher.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
In the league.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
How do you replace that if you're not willing to
bring them back? So that kind of to me, that's
got to be the biggest question moving forward. Like you
answered the question, you stepped up and you did what
you needed to do in terms of with his receivers,
with Joe Burrow and his receivers. Now you've knocked that out,
But how are you going to actually go about addressing
(17:49):
the defense side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
And apparently the restaurant industry locally there, Tang got well.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
I would also just quickly say, you bring out Golden,
who you know puts is a ton and again not
saying that that replaces Trey Hendrickson in the ability for
him to win one on ones and you know, isolate
him or how teams have to game plan for him.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But maybe some of the thought is a little bit
that too. Where you talked to Al Golden, They're like, well,
we're gonna.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Be pressuring so much and putting so much pressure on
them this way that if you're going to sacrifice someone
you know, maybe it is sacrificing you know, that particular player.
So you can appease Burrow, keep all the offensive talent
there and again then go from there.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
But this is this is a huge moment for the.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Bengals organization, their ownership because they haven't shelled out like
this before in the past, and they are and so
the fan base should be excited about it. Burrow should
be excited about it because he put a lot of
pressure on.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Them and they answer the call, and so now it's
on him.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
You know, they signed back Trey Hendrickson and they bring
all these guys back after everything else that he was
doing this offseason to motivate this ownership, you know, they
they are now squarely doing exactly what he wanted and
so he's got to own up to his end of
the bargain and that's what's on a slate. Then if
they can get this Hendrickson deal done.
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Speaker 5 (19:20):
So it is a Wednesday tradition here on the show.
It's the Old P. He's Petros Papadaikas. He's the co
host of the Petros and Money Show, which you can
hear on the Blowtorch A five seven e LA Sports
Fox College Football analyst and you can get him on
x at the Old P. Petro's Good Morning. The Doyers
(19:40):
look good up three in the seventh.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Yeah, we're being pre empted in Los Angeles at five
in the morning. So enjoying the Tokyo regalia, all the
fanfare in Japan, all the cool people are there, everybody
else is doing the work that the cool people aren't
able to do because they're in Tokyo, and it's a
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pretty exciting thing. I think people are a little tired,
the ones that are there ready to come home, but
this is it. They're going to come home right after this,
and they've been out there for about a week and
two things kind of jump out to me about the
Dodgers in Tokyo. Number one, it's a lot different than
Korea last year. It just feels like everybody wanted to
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be involved in this and it is a big, huge story.
Wherever anybody goes out there, no matter who they are
on the Dodgers and the fact that, I mean, Shoey
Otani has been a Major League baseball player for a
long time. I mean, the guy is thirty. He was
with the Angels for six years, and nobody cared. I mean,
(20:52):
it's just amazing to me still that this guy was
in spring training, was in all these different plays. He said, yeah,
he won MVPs and all that, but something about the
clash of the brands and the World Series and all
that stuff. But the Dodgers plus sho Hey o TOWNI
(21:12):
plus this Guggenheim group that owns the Dodgers and the
money that they can spend and the global kind of
approach that they have is pretty impressive. And Otani hit
a home run and he's coming up again.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Petros I don't know if you had seen this, but
Rodney Pete, you know, friend and Rodney they do.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Yeah, the cool all the coolest people, right.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
So Rodney Pete took a foul ball away from Max
Munsey in the game and was seen on television. Max
Montsey was trying to make a play on the ball
and one of your family members on AM five to
seventy LA Sports, Rodney Pete swiped that foul ball from
and didn't look apologetic at all.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Well, he's not a big fan of mine. But yeah,
look at it. Look now that you said that, I'm
just tech checking my phone and Rodney peat just caught
a foul ball and screwed up Max Munsey's cats.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Look at that?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
How about that? Oh so your people are out and droves.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Look at this one. It's over Rodney Pete with the
cat caught fly ball.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Why you're not at COSM, man, Yeah, you didn't want
to get up and go to Cosm.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Well, I have a job. I'm on with you guys.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
But we did give away yeah, because I want to
go to Inglewood at.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Three in the morning.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, I was looking for I was looking for more
of that.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
No set trip and let me park four blocks away.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, uh no.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
We did give away tickets for that, So I wonder
what that scene is like Cosm. And it's funny because
we mentioned it and the phones blew up and all that,
and everybody wanted tickets, and we gave away tickets for
the first night and the second night.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
It's Inglewood.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
It's in Inglewood, yeah right, we're right down the street. Yeah,
And it's it's supposed to be a really cool experience.
A lot of people texted like, what the hell has
caused them? And that's a great question if you don't know.
It's like, I guess they get more than one camera
feed from the from the the TV people, from the truck,
(23:18):
so I guess they are able to create this really
crazy like dome like interactive screen experience. Have you been there, Brady, No.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
But I've I've looked into it. They've got multiple camera
angles like some are some are basic positions, so it
makes you feel like you are sitting courtside or you know,
right next to first base, third baseline, or the sideline.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
If you're in football, it's supposed to be cool. I mean,
it's not looks. It's not just football, baseball, basketball, soccer.
I mean they do circ disobey, they do different kind
of municipals. Yeah, so it's a big thing. I mean
the only the first time I ever heard about COSM
was Colin Cowhard at halftime Penn State USC right at
(24:09):
USC had been beating Penn State, and I have some
of it memorized. He was like, uh, I guess these
East Coast teams can't come out west? Can they handle
the sun? And all the excitement of the coliseum. Probably not,
(24:30):
And then of course, you know USC in the second half,
and then Penn State ends up winning the game and
making the College Football Playoff. Lincoln Lincoln Riley still seems
like one of the worst hires, and they're under one
hundred million dollar contract. But I got Collin yeah, standing
there with a mohedo. The East Coast teams can't First
(24:53):
of all, you're not from You're not from l A.
Would just shut up? These East Coast teams are coming
out west and coming out to probably.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Chicago.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Can you Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Can you claim l A if your kids grew up
in l A? Like I have an l A baby
that she that she's only lived here. Should I still
claim the East Coast? Or have I been here long enough?
If I've been here for over a decade to claim
the West coast? What's the what's the proper etiquette there?
Speaker 8 (25:25):
Not? Well, what do you want to do in your heart?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Well, I mean I know what I want to do
in the heart. I just don't want to I don't
want to influence your answer. I'm just I'm curious as
to how that will work. Because Colin's been here for
a while, like, you know, it seems like he's been
adopted by the community.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You know, No, not with the questions he's asked on air.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Terrible. Well, Colin Cowherd has said, and God bless him,
he's like the top of our industry. And I do
I do a lot of punching upwards, but.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well, don't counch down point.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Colin Cowherd once said that the coliseum is right off
the four h five on air, which is not the case, guys,
it's not the same freeway.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
She was not the Sherman Oaks Galleria.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yeah, he said that once on air. What else did
he say on air? Oh, he asked Joy Taylor or
one of the people his whatever co host. He asked
once like, are you more of a Montana person or
a Wheelshire person, which is like a question about Santa Monica,
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which came off to me still as one of the
douchiest questions anybody's ever asked in the history of sports
talk radio. I guess I would say that Colin Cowhard
is Los Angeles in the same way that somebody that
makes a lot of money and moves to Manhattan Beach
and then moves to Brentwood is Los Angeles. I don't
think he understands anything about the infrastructure of the city
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or what the people that work in the city are
really like, and what places like Santa Clarita, East Los Angeles,
San Gabriel Valley, Orange came from there North Orange County.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
So I can claim it then, right, because I coached
that long beach I coached in Pasadena.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Well, I would say that you have.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I coached that Charter Oaks, I coached in San Gabriel Valley.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Like I'm the Chargers.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
I would say that your your fingers and toes have
more legitimate roots with legitimate real people y than Yeah.
Are you more of a Wilcher person or a Montana.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You know what, I'm more of a person man, I like.
I like, I'll keep it pH on there, you know,
because I could get the Santa Monica from and I
can get the wheelchair from from both.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
So who would ask that on the radio? Yeah, unless
you're just a huge douche anyway I would say, I
would say, shir LeVar, I'm cool.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
With Colins, so I'm not jumping in on as one,
but I'm not.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
I'm cool with everybody. I love everybody.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I'm just saying as Co Sandy, you I'm not I
am not Co Sandy.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
But it's funny as that.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
Well, I mean, Colin made this huge point for years
coming here and then telling lecturing the country about what
la was like.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And it was comical.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
It is comical to most of us that have worked
and been in the city, our whole lives to be
lectured by a guy who just arrived here and is
going to tell everybody what it's like. Uh and and
it is. It is a difficult place to know what
it's like unless you have a long Mark Twain, so
to speak, or a giant dipstick to stick in the
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river of the city. Because just hanging around with a
bunch of rich people in Manhattan Beach and Santa Monica
ain't gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
And I ain't gonna do it. No, you got you
gotta hit it.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
Maybe because them at three in the morning, we'll get
you there.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Mean so Inglewood and that's good. I'm going I.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Have you ever been to Tokyo, by the way, No, no, no.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
My little brother lived in Japan for a couple of
years and he has a Japanese wife and Japanese kids,
and they all speak Japanese, but they live in Lomita. Uh.
But you know, you go over the house and they're like,
and uh what is that? You know, it's very cute,
you know, and uh, you know the Japanese men and
the women they speak very differently, you know, the language.
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You know, you hear the men sometimes, especially in like
the Yakuza movies and stuff, and they're like, you know
real right, you know, like Sato and Karate part too.
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And then you know the women, you know, it's like
it sounds a little more like a.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
You know, like real rhythmic.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
Yeah, very nice. So but a fascinating place, unbelievable attention
to detail. The culture is really really unique and celebrated
all over the world because they have such a unique
and interesting culture and it's just crazy. I mean, when
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they had those terrible Tsunamis and this guy that was
pitching for the Dodgers, the guy who started Roki Sasaki
has a terrible familial tragedy connected to the big Tsunamis.
But when that happened, you know, the global news I
remember was like, well, you know, there's going to be
an issue with looting, and now Japan's you know, martial
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law and blah blah blah, this and that, and the
Japanese don't even have a word in their language for looting.
They don't. I mean, it just doesn't even occur to
them when people are suffering to go and steal, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
And then here on the other side, you know.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Colin Coward's neighbors are running around the palisades stealing from
stealing from burned out houses. Not cowards neighbors. But you
know what I'm saying here here in other countries we have,
we have that issue all the time. There's just so
many things in Japan that are just so drastically different
reading up on it, just like reading Japanese books, Like
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there's a Japanese author that I really came to love
and Haruki Murakami, same last name as the guy that
does all the art, but a different writer and very
famous Japanese man. And I read a bunch of those books.
And what's really interesting about these things and Asian books
and literature especially, the plotting is totally different, Like the
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storytelling is not the same as like our Western kind
of what we would expect things to have a beginning
in a middle and an end and in a Japanese movie,
things just kind of happen, you know, in a weird way.
Uh So it's just a very interesting and then of
course there's all the anime and the tentacle sex and
the perversion. Uh you know that they have so much
(32:09):
going on. It's very Interestingles you've never seen the cartoons there, curious?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
This sounds interesting.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
There's all kinds of crazy cartoons, some of it very
very sexual in nature, others very violent.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Some vocals very into that. I can dig it. You're
into that.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Well, no, some people are not my thing for real life.
For some reason.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Jonas gets on me. He dresses like a Japanese schoolgirl.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
Interesting, puts on the bob Wig right.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Interesting platform, you can see.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I can see that too, now now that you say it,
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I can see it.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
That's funny.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Do you ever did any to the march madness? You
get involved, you can do a bracket. You excited about
it at all.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
I haven't filled out a bracket in a long time, okay,
because you know there's those idiots at work that fill
out like four brackets and they'll be like I had
Marquette on Tim Brando three on Tim Brando three, I
had Marquette. You know, it's like, okay, well, you know
how many chances he's supposed to get, you know, just
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throw Brando into the box he used to fill out
a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Brackets and then yell about how well, what about Coward?
How many does Coward fill out?
Speaker 8 (33:32):
I have no idea. I don't interact with these people,
but I'm sure Coward fills them out for his neighborhood
friends in Manhattan Beach and Santa Monica and now suburban Chicago.
But but no.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I mean, I don't flip out that way, and I
don't sit here and act like I know all about
you know this Saint Francis or wherever these obscure schools are.
It's fun to look at once the thing gets started.
There's always great stories and you and most of them
you don't know. There's always weird look in college players
from the mid majors and stuff like that. Guys with goggles,
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white guys that are bald, and you know, just weird
looking dudes, hud shouldered, big men, stiff legged, non need pending.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
That's actually it brings up a question I have noticed,
and maybe it's just because I'm getting older. But I
look at some of these kids and I'm like, how
the hell are they twenty two? They look like they're
like forty five. Do you feel like they.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
Watching basketball in the seventies? Well, ask you, like, do
you guys look like a bunch of high school principals? Okay, yeah, No,
I think I was worse back then. I mean you
just getting some of these dudes on a team with
like a full beard, and you're like, Okay, well, you know,
he looks like a big ass, you know, a real man. Uh.
And and some guys, you know, they look baby faced
(34:51):
and they go through their NBA career like that. You know,
people do look different in the face. Brady, I gotta say, uh,
you've always had a very youthful vibe.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Hold on, old, hold on? Do you have different categories
for how people look in the face.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
Well, I mean there's sharp faced people. There's people's face
looks like a hound. You know, there's smash faced people.
Speaker 10 (35:12):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
The other day I had a co host, him, George Reister.
You guys know George. Yeah, played the organ and George
George's daughter joined him at the station, and she said
a new word for ugly. Uh, and she defined me
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as ugly and that word.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Was chopped, chopped, chopped, so which would be considered crashing out?
She crashed out on.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
You, right, that's another word. The kids like therase, Why are.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
We inventing new ways of saying something that's been around forever?
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Because of stibbity. The kids say all kinds of stupid.
I mean, the kid's stuff now is terrible. You know.
When I was a kid, I remember saying like, that's
the bomb or I'm down with that, and then your
mom starts saying that, you know, is that something that
is down you know? And it's just like, no, that's
not you know? Is this also the bomb? You know?
(36:13):
And and now I find myself being like, is that skimmedy?
What is skimmy made? And the kids are like, what,
shut up, you idiot? You know what's a guiachtang? Have
you heard all that stuff? M energy alpha? Yeah, they
damn energy.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Cringe is running wrong, Cringe is very strong, running rampant petros.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Have you heard the due yellow Ball song?
Speaker 8 (36:39):
There's two I heard.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, he's got he's got a new.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
One out, guns up on my.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Can we play this story for play it for Petros,
just to give a taste gangster.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
At a Chino hill.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
I mean that's what they're saying.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
Mastole my catalytic converterang No oh what.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It's very similar to the first Petros, Petros, What type
of music is it?
Speaker 8 (37:18):
This?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah? What type of music is it? Where's it belonged?
Speaker 8 (37:21):
Terrible modern hip hop?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
What do you make it? What did he make it for?
Speaker 8 (37:25):
Who did he make this for?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Who do he make it for? The beat?
Speaker 8 (37:30):
The lyrics, I would say, uh.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Come on, come on, Petros, come on, come on, Petros.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Who's it for? Yes, well, i'd say it's for white chicks.
But it doesn't sound like Drake. It sounds like it's
just like music for like suburban boys. Stripper music, Oh,
stripper music. Please please welcome Ginger to the man.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
There you go get it, Jonas, this is this is
your expertise, Jonas.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Ya yo yo yo yo yo? What up?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
It's about to be you?
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Lou Ravens on the stand A raven Why are you?
You know? You know? All right?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
So here's the difference.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
So that's that's the black strip clubs.
Speaker 8 (38:37):
That's the way like the tropical, like the tropical land.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Come on Yeah, yeah, but but if he does it
in a white strip club the way he does. Do
we have a different song for are we cute up
with a different.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
Cherry?
Speaker 10 (38:53):
Like?
Speaker 8 (38:53):
Do we do we have that?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Way? Like?
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Here comes the rain again? You know something like real.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Give us a thumbs up when you got you know
you're good. Let's do it here. Let's hear Jonas in
a different one. Here we go, right, y'all.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
She ain't just Lisa, she's mona Lisa on stage three.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
They don't make it rain when the music like this
is playing, though, do they?
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Are they rainers in this though?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Some guy's gotta got a Copenhagen, he's gotta horseshoe in?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
How do they give money to to the to the
to the stage to this type of music?
Speaker 4 (39:34):
How do they do it?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Do they throw it hits?
Speaker 5 (39:38):
They make a paper airplane of but don't do they
make a paper like?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
How do they What is the etiquette of giving money
to this music? Because I could tell you to the
other one.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
You put a bunch of quarters in a shotgun and
you shoot it. The worst part about this is I
interviewed the guys from Buck Cherry in studio. Good guys, like,
so here the guys from Buck Cherry. I should have
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asked him, do you know how many strip clubs love
your song? You know there's a there was a strip club,
uh that that we used to have to drive people
to that It was far away, and there was a
rule that said you could wear track pants, you know
where other words you couldn't. A car full of guys
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in track pants all geeked up taking them to upland dang,
I mean you know they let us play our own CDs. Hey,
I want to play Wu Tang forever while these trippers
November Rain who danced to this.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Petros, we appreciate it. Always a good time at the
old p on Axes where you can find him.
Speaker 8 (40:54):
He is the there was a difference between the Black
Strip club and the White strip I did I just
kidd make your rain all right?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
This is the all one of the new ones, that's
the old one exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You don't even know.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
You can't tell uh Petros, You Tim Kates, Matt money Smith,
you guys will be uh be up and firing away
later on today.
Speaker 8 (41:18):
I like not being on in l a and just
doing your show and just knocking all the ass.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
That's the new one. That's the new one she switched.
She switched it up to the new one. You wouldn't
even know if if she switched it.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
Now, I'm gonna go to seven eleven and get some
nerds and Chino Hills dang.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Apparently as well. They must have a strip club out
there too.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Oh yeah, the Tropic La and upland right man.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
There you petros. We appreciate it. Let's do it again
next week. All right, guys, the great Patrons.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
LeVar, you probably gonna be happy with this. Talk to me.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Tom Pelisero of the NFL, come on, come on, reporting
that the Minnesota Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls on
JJ McCarthy, telling other teams they're moving forward with him
as their quarterback. Sources say the team plans to add
a veteran, but they're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time.
McCarthy now enters this season as QB one Pelisero goes
(42:39):
on to say the Vikings continue to explore multiple options
for a veteran quarterback edition whether through free agency or
a trade. Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers options are now focused on
the Steelers and the Giants.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
You know, I don't know. Can I say I like
being I do like being right. I do like to
be right, And in this moment, I think God was right.
Minnesota was not. If you were going to do what
everything was being reported, then you just keep Sam Darnold.
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You don't move on from a guy that gave you
the season that he did to take a chance on
Aaron Rodgers. I just don't think that you do that,
especially if you're going to go with your draft pick
coming off of his injury.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
I mean, to me, I think it was taking too long.
If you're saying both sides wanted this to happen, and
it just seemed a little strange to me that it
was taking so long. It made me give pause and say,
I don't think it's Aaron Rodgers. I think it's Minnesota.
I think Minnesota had to decide do they want to
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do this or do they not want to do it?
It sounds like they don't.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Want to do it.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
I think it's interesting how this is worded, and I
believe especially when you're sitting out a tweet and it's
not us talking on radio where I mean, look, we're jackasses.
We don't always get it right right. We say things
sometimes we don't mean to say, or slip whatever. But
in this case, you have the opportunity to type that out.
Make sure this is how you want to portray this,
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especially considering how.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Big of news it is in the NFL. So I'm
gonna read it again.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
The Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls on JJ McCarthy,
telling other teams that are moving forward with him as
their quarterback. Sources say the team plans to add a veteran,
but they're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. So
what would what would change to make them pursue Aaron
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Rodgers at a later time?
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Maybe why wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
You just say we're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers or The
final sentence reads McCarthy and I ers the offseason as
QB one. Why wouldn't they just say McCarthy's our quarterback,
We're not looking at Aaron Rodgers anymore?
Speaker 2 (45:01):
It would literally be that simple. But for some reason,
and look.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
And just and this isn't like a shot at Tom Pellisero,
because this is Schefter, this is Ian Rappaport, this is Pelisera,
this is everyone. These guys now essentially copy and paste
what an agent or a source of someone kind of says,
and they can refute that. You can try to come
at me with all that. Doug Golly would probably put
this on his show her all that you've seen callous
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examples of mistakes that have been made where guys have
literally copied and pasted and left some stuff in there.
So what I'm what I'm pointing out is someone wanted
to portray this message of we're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers
at this time for what reason? I have no idea, Like,
if you're gonna commit to McCarthy, commit to him, what
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is it at this time? Is there a concern maybe
come off as injury, how he's recovering?
Speaker 8 (45:53):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Why is there concern that maybe what Aaron's asking for
where this whole thing is that is too.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Much for them, They don't want to do it. I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Like that struck me as odd based on how this
is worded in and look, maybe I'm reading way too
much into this, but again, when you have the opportunity
to tweet something out that you know is going to
make its round, that is going to make news. I
think you're pretty careful about how you word things. I
think you word them a certain way for.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
A reason, especially when you point out, look, we are
going to add a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
It's just not gonna be him, but JJ's our guy.
I think they made that clear start.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Well, they're going to add a veteran quarterback, but it
is Rogers, just not at this time.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Maybe, but I don't think that that's what it is.
I think they made their decision on JJ McCarthy when
they allowed Sam Darnold to leave. For sure, that's when
the decision was made. Now where you go from there,
it's like, Okay, does this make sense bringing in Aaron Rodgers?
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Does it make sense at what number? At what figure?
And are we bringing him in as a backup? Is
he fighting for the starting job or what does this
do to our draft pick? If we go from Sam Donald,
who just had the season he had to now bringing
in Aaron Rodgers to be a starter for what a
year or two.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
What does that look like? You know?
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I just think that if you were going to go
with a veteran that was going to start for your team,
you hold on to Sam Donald and that could be
for one to two years, just like if you were
going to move on to Aaron Rodgers is one to
two years. You're coming off of a strong year with
Sam Donald. Sure it ended, you know, not the way
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they would have liked it for the end, but there's
no reason to go away from that type of success
that you had. And Q you made some good points
about it the other day. Maybe they looked at it
and they were like, you know, character traits or did
he hit his ceiling that we stole one with, you know,
and we were able to get some value out of
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getting rid of them after one year using them. Maybe
that was the thought process. But I think that that
is very very that creates a very topsy turby a
very you know, kind of turbulent type of environment if
that you're going to go from Sam Donald to Aaron
Rodgers as your starting quarterback, which by the way, Sam
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Donald wasn't supposed to be the starter. It wasn't the
open competition until the injury took place, but he played
well as a starter. And again, if you're going to
wait to play JJ McCarthy, why would you allow Sam
Donald to walk? He was clearly valued, he landed with
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a team. Why would you just allow him to walk?
And then, oh, by the way, now we've created a
situation where we need a quarterback, and so now we're
going to go get the highest profile quarterback that's on
the free agency market. I just don't feel like that
made a ton of sense. Or Daniel Jones and you
let Daniel Jones walk, good point, A good point. I
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just why do you not hold on to Daniel Jones?
Speaker 6 (49:13):
Because Daniel Jones wants an opportunity to play, and I
think he went to a spot on a one year
deal that's going to give him the opportunity to play,
or at least a better opportunity to compete, even if
he's not the first quarterback in They give Anthony Richardson
the opportunity to start the season in Indianapolis at the
first sign of hey I need a break and come
off the field injury, what have you? It could be
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Daniel Jones's team and he can run with it.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
So you don't think that exists in Minnesota. He doesn't
have just as good an opportunity to get in there.
If it's him and JJ McCarthy going after it.
Speaker 6 (49:43):
Not to resurrect his career, no, because if it's him
and JJ McCarthy going after it, like he might start
this year, but JJ McCarthy's a top ten pick. With Richison,
you're in year three, like they've already been through it
where they've benched him for things and everything else. I
think there's a better chance of Danie Jones goes in
plays well. They would then sign him to an extension
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and then not commit to anthy Richardson on his fifth
year of his rookie deal because he'd be going into
year four. You have to make that decision after year three,
and at that point in time, it wouldn't be as
punitive to him. So I think it's two different situations.
But in regards to Rogers, I wonder if the Vikings
got tired of waiting, like there was an element of again,
this whole at this time is like, yeah, maybe he
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wanted to draw it out more, Maybe he needs more time.
Maybe there's some teams saying like, look, man, it's March
nineteenth today eighteenth. We've got to figure out our preparing
for the off season, like how we're gonna handle the draft,
how we're gonna handle the rest of free agency. We're
not going to keep waiting around for you to make
this decision. And we're not gonna get into a biding
war with the New York Giants or Pittsburgh Steels or
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anyone else. So this is where we're at. Like we
heard Cam Heyward earlier, maybe the Vikings had a similar
sentiment to all this and how they feel.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
Well, hey, it could be good news. The Steelers, you know,
might uh might get their guy after all.
Speaker 6 (51:03):
By the way, is it is a little upsetting too.
I know you got to get to the read, but
we're not gonna get like the Crocs and watch photo
and you had to follow exactly in the footsteps, which
is a little upsetting.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
I know.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
I know that g shock that Lee pointed out yesterday.
I know I still know in the end the name
of the watch that was in the photo, as if
he was really looking at the watch, it.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Is somebody else's background of his phone for a while.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
By the way, if that really was indeed true, I mean,
are we asking to have him removed from the show
like that day or do we wait a day?
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Like if that really is the is the truth show removals?
Huh yeah, that came up to that, h Lee.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Is that true that you had Brett Farre's picture as
the background on your phone, the infamous G Shock picture.
Speaker 4 (51:55):
No, that is not true.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Is it true that you have boxer shorts with Brett
Farve's face on your boxers?
Speaker 4 (52:04):
No, that is true, but I wonder if those exist.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
It Is it true you wear the me inside out
just to feel like, oh.
Speaker 5 (52:12):
Wow, happy birthday?
Speaker 4 (52:18):
Oh wow, Lee? Uh No, that would not know. Wow.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Okay someone told me you do that than maybe backwards
so you could eat your
Speaker 4 (52:32):
I like jelly
It's the best of two pros and a couple with
lamar As rating Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Popping it over here.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I mean, dudes have done it in the locker room,
and I think that that's really really very shaky business man.
I've never done it.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
They pop it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I don't like it, just being honest, pop uncomfortable, pop bottles, bitch,
I mean, and I do that with you. That's the
only popping I do.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
But it's like that, Yeah, yeah, guys do that in
the locker room.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
It's happened for It's very uncomfortable. If you see somebody
who it seems to have become more of a trend
at one point, long long after my days.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Of being in the locker room. But yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
There's all kinds of dudes locker and doing stuff these days.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Man, that's true, very uncomfortable. That's that's weird. But here's
what's not weird. It's not weird.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
The Cincinnati Bengals have two stud wide receivers and.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They are locked up. That kind of is weird. They
are locked up that they paid them.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Yeah, actually for Cincinnati, right, Yeah, they actually figured out
a way to get it done. So Jamar Chase t
Higgins were meeting with the media yesterday and they were
talking about Joe Burrow's impact on getting the deals done.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
I think it's a big help him just putting out
little information. Having our back, you know, I think that's
the biggest thing, especially coming from a quarterback. You know,
it's different if me and TV Washton for somebody else
before our quarterback to vos Fos, I think that's given us,
you know, a pathway to get us where we got here.
I think it helped, you know, you know, a guy
like him one guys like us to you know, stick
(02:01):
around and you know, play with him for the next
four years.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Is I feel like it?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Definitely, and definitely do. So you want stuff done, you
go to the quarterback. That's how it works.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, if you want stuff done, you got to have
a quarterback like Joe Burrow. Don't try don't try to
exercise that logic with every single quarterback.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
Actually, let's exercise that logic for a second, because trust me,
the court, the quarterbacks who are not Joe Burrow are
like begging the front office for guys like Jamar Chase
and Tiggans.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
They're like, no, no, I need more help.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
I need everyone, Like we need the old Liede, We
need the wide receivers to be as good as humanly
possible to help out my game. Like, Joe Burrow is
one of the type of guys that I mean, he
wants it because he wants to win a Super Bowl.
And obviously, you know Jamar Chase has played with for
a while in te Higgins now, but Chase, obviously their
relationship extends back to college.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean it's they're your guys, they're your boys.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
But like he could probably still be really successful in
the NFL without, you know, having those guys because he's
that talented of a player. So you can actually make
the case that, like, yes, to LaVar's point, Joe Burrow
is the type of quarterback that can get the fun
office to do it. But trust me, every quarterback's like, yeah,
I'd love to have that. I would love to have
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a Jamar Chase t Higgins by one two and then
get Secy at tight end.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Hell yeah, Like they'll sign up for that any day
of the week.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
But for office, like, we're not gonna be here long, pal,
so we're not We're not worried about you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
We're trying to find I got to replace you.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I mean, but good for them, Good for them that
that they did get it done, and you know it
is they they have some talent there. Now, question is,
like Chrisco said, what are they going to do on
the defensive side of the ball, because that's gonna be
the biggest question.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
They're not gonna do a damn thing. It's gonna shootouts
every single week. It's gonna be fantasy football galore. Everyone's
gonna love watching this team score fifty points a game.
So I think they picked their lane and that's what
they're going to be staying in. But I'm kidding. I
think they're gonna try it, obviously to get Henderson done.
But you know, he's just one piece of it. And
(04:13):
he's thirty years old and his last two years has
been phenomenal. But typically teams they look at you different.
You know, you turn thirty, they kind of look at
you like, oh man, you know you don't look the
way you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Still look before.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's not nice, just how it is.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Just it's kind of like Leonardo DiCaprio when any of
his girlfriends turned twenty four, He's like, Okay, it's been nice.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You're not seeing twenty five?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Is that he is at the cutoff? He hasn't ventured
past the quarter century mark.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
If he has, it's been like few and far between.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
But yeah, Lee, do you have any further information on that?
Leonardo DiCaprio, Like, what's the the age range we're looking at?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Looking like the oldest goes to uh Victoria Siretti, who
was twenty six.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Oh wow, yeah, ancient, wow, ancient really really challenged himself there,
finally able to get a rental.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Car shopping in in the older aisle for him. How
about that?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Now, Jamar Chase uh did talk about Cincinnati and maybe
had not so kind things to say about a certain
aspect of Cincinnati yesterday.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Let's take a listen for me.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
I like Cincinnati because it gives me the opportunity to
come here and focus. You know, I'm not distracted out here.
It's not too much too many things to get me,
you know, off pace out here, you know, and it's
strictly what I'm focused on. That's really television for me
to play football. So I mean, at the end of
the day, the food's not the best. We could work
on that, but I'm not used to the.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Food yet it's insane. That's not shade. I mean, it's
just he's you know New Orleans people. That's like their thing,
like food snobbing, like that's their thing though, because they
do all that seasoning and all that stuff. They eat
a lot of different things, and I thought it was
selling delicacies and stuff. It's not selling candy ons. I
mean that too, but they do that all over the
(06:09):
country though, you know, stupid we have Eminem's sneakers bars, you.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Know have Can I throw this out there?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Though, apparently Jamar Chase has ever been to Covington right
across the river there, because it's been a lot of
Bangles players who found themselves in some trouble with some
extra currical activities there.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So uh yeah, maybe maybe he doesn't need to go
across the river there.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It's good for him price.
Speaker 8 (06:35):
I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Don't think you would forget some of the issues that
the Bangles have had through the years. It's probably over
fifteen years ago, but still they had some players.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Have some issues.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I'd assume that that two chain song was playing across
the bridge. You know, pop it, you know pop that
make that money. Yeah, that that type of covetingtech. I'm
just assuming, though I could be wrong, but I'm just
assuming that doesn't that Jeff Rubies of a steakhouse. Isn't
there Jeff Rubies. Yes, there's multiple Jeff Rubi's restaurants there. Yes, Jeff,
(07:08):
and he's fantastic, it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I would assume Jamar Chase has been there.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
But one interesting anecdote to all this is now the Bengals,
if you're a call, they tagged at t Higgins and
then they were reportedly going to trade him. Which I
bring that up because what's interesting about them getting a
long term deal is the timing of all of it.
(07:37):
They went to the combine and then after the combine,
well they signed the long term deal. We don't see
that we like. That's exactly I think they looked. They
looked at where they're drafting. They looked at this particular
class at least early on, saying like, you know, could
we find someone that was going to be able to
(07:58):
come in and give us an immediate impact to compete
potentially win a Super Bowl? Uh that that that we
feel confident And obviously that wasn't really the case. And
that's kind of been the conversation around the wide receiver
position for this particular draft. It's it's not to take
away from any of the players. People just look at
(08:19):
it and say, we're waiting on Jeremiah Smith, right, We're
waiting on you know, a talent like that, or someone's
gonna get those services. And and you you see a
couple of players like that and you go wow, like
right away as a freshman, they have that sort of impact.
So imagine like what they're going to be like here
a couple a couple of years down the road.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I think when you you look at that those deals
both getting done, it is interesting that they did do
it after the combine, which would probably lend to what
you just said. I also look at it from the
standpoint of you don't want in this scenario, there's no
reason to disrupt you know, what's going on. If Joe
(09:05):
Burrow has gone to back because they made it a
point to talk about his influence on these deals getting done,
you don't want.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
To disrupt that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So even if there was a receiver that could replace
the you know, the presence or the production that T
Higgins was bringing to the table, if Joe Burrow is really,
really adamant about the idea of keeping these two together
for what it is they're trying to get done on
the offensive side of the ball. I mean, that's a
(09:38):
you know, that's a really big decision that that front
office has to make. Are you are you going to
put yourself in a position where Joe Burrow is looking
at you guys like y'all don't want to win, like
i'ma I'm gonna take my money, I'm gonna take my lumps,
and I'm up out of here first chance I can
get up out of here. Or are you going to
(09:58):
continue to build the relationship with because he truly is
a generational talent. I mean, I don't think anybody's going
to debate that at this point. And so to me,
I still think that it comes down to the fact
that Joe Burrow went to back and he was there.
He was their champion in those and their advocate in
(10:21):
some real conversations like can we do it without these guys?
Maybe it wasn't even a question of can we do
it without this guy or this guy? Maybe it was
really truly a conversation of Joe Burrow making it a
point to drive the drive it home that this is
not going to be good if we're and he said
it as much in public, it's not going to be
(10:41):
good letting the players that make us what we are,
make us a good team, a competitive team, letting them
go it's not you don't want to make a habit
of that. I think that that's probably I mean, I
think this just continues to go down the lane of
Joe Burrow's influence is so so strong there that I
don't know, I don't know that there would be any
(11:04):
circumstance other than t Higgins not being willing to come
to the table for less than what Jamar Chase was getting,
outside of Higgins being you know, not sensible about what
the check was going to be. I think Joe Burrow
advocated strongly enough for them to be signed back.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Do you guys there was a report out that one
of the strategies to Higgins used was he signed up
with the same agent that Jamar Chase had before the year.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Who was that? Who's their agent? I don't I don't
think it was Uh, it wasn't your people. I don't
think it wasn't your guy. I don't believe it was him.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Do you think that had anything to do with being
able to get this deal done, like they had any
impact on them being able to get it done because.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Him these days, it was allowed.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The probably Rocky Arsenal I believe is Jason Lambert Kaylin Ioki,
I think those are the agents?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Ever heard of them? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Yeah, I Alliance Sports Management. I think I think it
could have helped, but I don't know how much of
a factor it played. To be honest with you, I
think Joe Burrow's impact probably played the most on this
deal getting done, and and I mean there should be
some client confidentiality between the two. It always helps when
you know that agent knows exactly what Jamar Chase is getting.
But if we're being honest with ourselves, I don't think
(12:30):
there's a world in which t Higgins thought he was
gonna get paid the same as Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
There's just not.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I mean, you can't look at his career and compare
to Jamar Chase and in any any singular year think
that he's been more productive or a better wide receiver.
So I look that agency might have a great relationship
or a good relationship with the Bengals, which helps, And
obviously it's you know, if T. Higgins wants to stay
(12:55):
and play with Joe Burrow and stay in Cincinnati and
to keep playing with Jamar Chase, you know, it makes
it a little easier then because you've got an agent
who's working on both receivers and trying to figure out
a way of keeping them there. And I think for
the long term, for that agency and those receivers, it
helps to.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Be having a quarterback like Joe Burrow because they can
get another.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Bite at the apple here probably three years with a
year left on each one of these deals, and if
they won a Super Bowl by then, I'm sure the
Bengals are going to feel motivated to want to run
it back and keep signing these guys and keeping them
if they're still playing a high level.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So it probably helped in some ways.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I just at the end of the day, I think
the Bengals wanted to please Joe Burrow and they wanted
to make sure that they could stay in this opportunity
to have both these players and really a one A
one B right, because T.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Higgins could be a one somewhere else maybe.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
But having these two in particular puts a lot of
pressure on opposing defenses and in particular Kansas City, because
that is the team you have to get by and
if you don't have the horses to outscore them right
in that final moments of the game, to be able
to go out in the field and say no, no, no,
if we have the ball last, we win this game.
Because that's what this game has kind of become nowadays
(14:08):
in the NFL, and in particular if you're in the AFC,
having those receivers, having even Giseki because they've signed him
back and he kind of flew into the radar, but
he's a big piece of this too. That puts so
much pressure on everyone else to be able to keep
pace with them in an offensive league. So they've prioritized
Burrow and they've prioritized their offense and receivers and park
(14:31):
is the day and age that we're in. And you
kind of keep going back to last year how bad
that defense was. Well, look, Trey Hendrickson was great, He's
been great the past couple of seasons, but it still
really didn't have an impact at the end of the
day on how poor their defense played.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
You know, it's just sicky. I've been trying not to
say it, just sicky. Yeah, it's just sicky.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It's with a J.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's like g is like good, like that's what I'm saying,
putting the E in there.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And I'm gonna get in trouble if I don't correct
it because I'm letting it go. But I'm gonna get
in trouble next time I go. I'm gonna get in
trouble if I don't. I've been trying. It's an I.
You got to say it with an I, not a E.
Not yeah, but it's at the beginning. It's it's like
you got it right at the beginning, but you go
(15:22):
right sicky, sicky, Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Got it now. Yeah. I was just trying to let
you go with it though, you know what I mean.
I didn't want to jump in on it. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But you know, I don't want people making fun of
me or you know.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
It's no, it's all good, get sick. Yeah, there you go.
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's all goodsacky entire like those seis. Yeah, right, that's
what it is. But that and it's a great point,
by the way, and listen again, I think the biggest
question now become what are they going to do on
the defensive side of the ball, because that is the
(16:04):
biggest hole that they have to feel, figure out and
feel for this team. What do you do moving forward?
Is that going to be addressed? Do they have enough
draft capital to build it? In the draft? Can they
bring in enough guys? I don't even know what their
their drafts, you know, picks are and where they're at,
but I would assume you know that they feel confident
(16:26):
at where they're at on on the offensive side. So
now you've locked all those things up, it's it's going
to be a real focus on how do you stop
the pass? How do you get to the quarterback you
just lost? Basically you're in that sence, you're you're losing
both your ends.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I mean, you you lost. I want to hope I'm
getting the right Hubbard is a Hubbard similar Hubbard?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, I mean you lost him, You lose him to retirement,
and you're not trying to sign Hendrickson back. That's a
tremendous in itself. Those are tremendous holes to fill if
you're the Cincinnati Bengals. So what are you going to
do about that? And how do you improve your secondary?
(17:13):
That's I mean, I really believe that if they can
figure that out, which I don't know that they have
enough resources to figure that out. You know, how do
you replace the most productive pass rusher.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
In the league.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
How do you replace that if you're not willing to
bring them back? So that kind of to me, that's
got to be the biggest question moving forward. Like you
answered the question, you stepped up and you did what
you needed to do in terms of with his receivers,
with Joe Burrow and his receivers. Now you've knocked that out,
But how are you going to actually go about addressing
(17:49):
the defense side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
And apparently the restaurant industry locally there, Tang got well.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
I would also just quickly say, you bring out Golden,
who you know puts is a ton and again not
saying that that replaces Trey Hendrickson in the ability for
him to win one on ones and you know, isolate
him or how teams have to game plan for him.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But maybe some of the thought is a little bit
that too. Where you talked to Al Golden, They're like, well,
we're gonna.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Be pressuring so much and putting so much pressure on
them this way that if you're going to sacrifice someone
you know, maybe it is sacrificing you know, that particular player.
So you can appease Burrow, keep all the offensive talent
there and again then go from there.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
But this is this is a huge moment for the.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Bengals organization, their ownership because they haven't shelled out like
this before in the past, and they are and so
the fan base should be excited about it. Burrow should
be excited about it because he put a lot of
pressure on.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Them and they answer the call, and so now it's
on him.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
You know, they signed back Trey Hendrickson and they bring
all these guys back after everything else that he was
doing this offseason to motivate this ownership, you know, they
they are now squarely doing exactly what he wanted and
so he's got to own up to his end of
the bargain and that's what's on a slate. Then if
they can get this Hendrickson deal done.
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Speaker 5 (19:20):
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look good up three in the seventh.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Yeah, we're being pre empted in Los Angeles at five
in the morning. So enjoying the Tokyo regalia, all the
fanfare in Japan, all the cool people are there, everybody
else is doing the work that the cool people aren't
able to do because they're in Tokyo, and it's a
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pretty exciting thing. I think people are a little tired,
the ones that are there ready to come home, but
this is it. They're going to come home right after this,
and they've been out there for about a week and
two things kind of jump out to me about the
Dodgers in Tokyo. Number one, it's a lot different than
Korea last year. It just feels like everybody wanted to
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be involved in this and it is a big, huge story.
Wherever anybody goes out there, no matter who they are
on the Dodgers and the fact that, I mean, Shoey
Otani has been a Major League baseball player for a
long time. I mean, the guy is thirty. He was
with the Angels for six years, and nobody cared. I mean,
(20:52):
it's just amazing to me still that this guy was
in spring training, was in all these different plays. He said, yeah,
he won MVPs and all that, but something about the
clash of the brands and the World Series and all
that stuff. But the Dodgers plus sho Hey o TOWNI
(21:12):
plus this Guggenheim group that owns the Dodgers and the
money that they can spend and the global kind of
approach that they have is pretty impressive. And Otani hit
a home run and he's coming up again.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Petros I don't know if you had seen this, but
Rodney Pete, you know, friend and Rodney they do.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Yeah, the cool all the coolest people, right.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
So Rodney Pete took a foul ball away from Max
Munsey in the game and was seen on television. Max
Montsey was trying to make a play on the ball
and one of your family members on AM five to
seventy LA Sports, Rodney Pete swiped that foul ball from
and didn't look apologetic at all.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Well, he's not a big fan of mine. But yeah,
look at it. Look now that you said that, I'm
just tech checking my phone and Rodney peat just caught
a foul ball and screwed up Max Munsey's cats.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Look at that?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
How about that? Oh so your people are out and droves.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Look at this one. It's over Rodney Pete with the
cat caught fly ball.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Why you're not at COSM, man, Yeah, you didn't want
to get up and go to Cosm.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Well, I have a job. I'm on with you guys.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
But we did give away yeah, because I want to
go to Inglewood at.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Three in the morning.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, I was looking for I was looking for more
of that.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
No set trip and let me park four blocks away.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, uh no.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
We did give away tickets for that, So I wonder
what that scene is like Cosm. And it's funny because
we mentioned it and the phones blew up and all that,
and everybody wanted tickets, and we gave away tickets for
the first night and the second night.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
It's Inglewood.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
It's in Inglewood, yeah right, we're right down the street. Yeah,
And it's it's supposed to be a really cool experience.
A lot of people texted like, what the hell has
caused them? And that's a great question if you don't know.
It's like, I guess they get more than one camera
feed from the from the the TV people, from the truck,
(23:18):
so I guess they are able to create this really
crazy like dome like interactive screen experience. Have you been there, Brady, No.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
But I've I've looked into it. They've got multiple camera
angles like some are some are basic positions, so it
makes you feel like you are sitting courtside or you know,
right next to first base, third baseline, or the sideline.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
If you're in football, it's supposed to be cool. I mean,
it's not looks. It's not just football, baseball, basketball, soccer.
I mean they do circ disobey, they do different kind
of municipals. Yeah, so it's a big thing. I mean
the only the first time I ever heard about COSM
was Colin Cowhard at halftime Penn State USC right at
(24:09):
USC had been beating Penn State, and I have some
of it memorized. He was like, uh, I guess these
East Coast teams can't come out west? Can they handle
the sun? And all the excitement of the coliseum. Probably not,
(24:30):
And then of course, you know USC in the second half,
and then Penn State ends up winning the game and
making the College Football Playoff. Lincoln Lincoln Riley still seems
like one of the worst hires, and they're under one
hundred million dollar contract. But I got Collin yeah, standing
there with a mohedo. The East Coast teams can't First
(24:53):
of all, you're not from You're not from l A.
Would just shut up? These East Coast teams are coming
out west and coming out to probably.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Chicago.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Can you Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Can you claim l A if your kids grew up
in l A? Like I have an l A baby
that she that she's only lived here. Should I still
claim the East Coast? Or have I been here long enough?
If I've been here for over a decade to claim
the West coast? What's the what's the proper etiquette there?
Speaker 8 (25:25):
Not? Well, what do you want to do in your heart?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Well, I mean I know what I want to do
in the heart. I just don't want to I don't
want to influence your answer. I'm just I'm curious as
to how that will work. Because Colin's been here for
a while, like, you know, it seems like he's been
adopted by the community.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You know, No, not with the questions he's asked on air.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Terrible. Well, Colin Cowherd has said, and God bless him,
he's like the top of our industry. And I do
I do a lot of punching upwards, but.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well, don't counch down point.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Colin Cowherd once said that the coliseum is right off
the four h five on air, which is not the case, guys,
it's not the same freeway.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
She was not the Sherman Oaks Galleria.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yeah, he said that once on air. What else did
he say on air? Oh, he asked Joy Taylor or
one of the people his whatever co host. He asked
once like, are you more of a Montana person or
a Wheelshire person, which is like a question about Santa Monica,
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which came off to me still as one of the
douchiest questions anybody's ever asked in the history of sports
talk radio. I guess I would say that Colin Cowhard
is Los Angeles in the same way that somebody that
makes a lot of money and moves to Manhattan Beach
and then moves to Brentwood is Los Angeles. I don't
think he understands anything about the infrastructure of the city
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or what the people that work in the city are
really like, and what places like Santa Clarita, East Los Angeles,
San Gabriel Valley, Orange came from there North Orange County.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
So I can claim it then, right, because I coached
that long beach I coached in Pasadena.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Well, I would say that you have.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I coached that Charter Oaks, I coached in San Gabriel Valley.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Like I'm the Chargers.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
I would say that your your fingers and toes have
more legitimate roots with legitimate real people y than Yeah.
Are you more of a Wilcher person or a Montana.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You know what, I'm more of a person man, I like.
I like, I'll keep it pH on there, you know,
because I could get the Santa Monica from and I
can get the wheelchair from from both.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
So who would ask that on the radio? Yeah, unless
you're just a huge douche anyway I would say, I
would say, shir LeVar, I'm cool.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
With Colins, so I'm not jumping in on as one,
but I'm not.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
I'm cool with everybody. I love everybody.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I'm just saying as Co Sandy, you I'm not I
am not Co Sandy.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
But it's funny as that.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
Well, I mean, Colin made this huge point for years
coming here and then telling lecturing the country about what
la was like.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And it was comical.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
It is comical to most of us that have worked
and been in the city, our whole lives to be
lectured by a guy who just arrived here and is
going to tell everybody what it's like. Uh and and
it is. It is a difficult place to know what
it's like unless you have a long Mark Twain, so
to speak, or a giant dipstick to stick in the
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river of the city. Because just hanging around with a
bunch of rich people in Manhattan Beach and Santa Monica
ain't gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
And I ain't gonna do it. No, you got you
gotta hit it.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
Maybe because them at three in the morning, we'll get
you there.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Mean so Inglewood and that's good. I'm going I.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Have you ever been to Tokyo, by the way, No, no, no.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
My little brother lived in Japan for a couple of
years and he has a Japanese wife and Japanese kids,
and they all speak Japanese, but they live in Lomita. Uh.
But you know, you go over the house and they're like,
and uh what is that? You know, it's very cute,
you know, and uh, you know the Japanese men and
the women they speak very differently, you know, the language.
(29:31):
You know, you hear the men sometimes, especially in like
the Yakuza movies and stuff, and they're like, you know
real right, you know, like Sato and Karate part too.
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And then you know the women, you know, it's like
it sounds a little more like a.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
You know, like real rhythmic.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
Yeah, very nice. So but a fascinating place, unbelievable attention
to detail. The culture is really really unique and celebrated
all over the world because they have such a unique
and interesting culture and it's just crazy. I mean, when
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they had those terrible Tsunamis and this guy that was
pitching for the Dodgers, the guy who started Roki Sasaki
has a terrible familial tragedy connected to the big Tsunamis.
But when that happened, you know, the global news I
remember was like, well, you know, there's going to be
an issue with looting, and now Japan's you know, martial
(30:44):
law and blah blah blah, this and that, and the
Japanese don't even have a word in their language for looting.
They don't. I mean, it just doesn't even occur to
them when people are suffering to go and steal, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
And then here on the other side, you know.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Colin Coward's neighbors are running around the palisades stealing from
stealing from burned out houses. Not cowards neighbors. But you
know what I'm saying here here in other countries we have,
we have that issue all the time. There's just so
many things in Japan that are just so drastically different
reading up on it, just like reading Japanese books, Like
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there's a Japanese author that I really came to love
and Haruki Murakami, same last name as the guy that
does all the art, but a different writer and very
famous Japanese man. And I read a bunch of those books.
And what's really interesting about these things and Asian books
and literature especially, the plotting is totally different, Like the
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storytelling is not the same as like our Western kind
of what we would expect things to have a beginning
in a middle and an end and in a Japanese movie,
things just kind of happen, you know, in a weird way.
Uh So it's just a very interesting and then of
course there's all the anime and the tentacle sex and
the perversion. Uh you know that they have so much
(32:09):
going on. It's very Interestingles you've never seen the cartoons there, curious?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
This sounds interesting.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
There's all kinds of crazy cartoons, some of it very
very sexual in nature, others very violent.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Some vocals very into that. I can dig it. You're
into that.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Well, no, some people are not my thing for real life.
For some reason.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Jonas gets on me. He dresses like a Japanese schoolgirl.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
Interesting, puts on the bob Wig right.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Interesting platform, you can see.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I can see that too, now now that you say it,
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I can see it.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
That's funny.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Do you ever did any to the march madness? You
get involved, you can do a bracket. You excited about
it at all.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
I haven't filled out a bracket in a long time, okay,
because you know there's those idiots at work that fill
out like four brackets and they'll be like I had
Marquette on Tim Brando three on Tim Brando three, I
had Marquette. You know, it's like, okay, well, you know
how many chances he's supposed to get, you know, just
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throw Brando into the box he used to fill out
a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Brackets and then yell about how well, what about Coward?
How many does Coward fill out?
Speaker 8 (33:32):
I have no idea. I don't interact with these people,
but I'm sure Coward fills them out for his neighborhood
friends in Manhattan Beach and Santa Monica and now suburban Chicago.
But but no.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I mean, I don't flip out that way, and I
don't sit here and act like I know all about
you know this Saint Francis or wherever these obscure schools are.
It's fun to look at once the thing gets started.
There's always great stories and you and most of them
you don't know. There's always weird look in college players
from the mid majors and stuff like that. Guys with goggles,
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white guys that are bald, and you know, just weird
looking dudes, hud shouldered, big men, stiff legged, non need pending.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
That's actually it brings up a question I have noticed,
and maybe it's just because I'm getting older. But I
look at some of these kids and I'm like, how
the hell are they twenty two? They look like they're
like forty five. Do you feel like they.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
Watching basketball in the seventies? Well, ask you, like, do
you guys look like a bunch of high school principals? Okay, yeah, No,
I think I was worse back then. I mean you
just getting some of these dudes on a team with
like a full beard, and you're like, Okay, well, you know,
he looks like a big ass, you know, a real man. Uh.
And and some guys, you know, they look baby faced
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and they go through their NBA career like that. You know,
people do look different in the face. Brady, I gotta say, uh,
you've always had a very youthful vibe.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Hold on, old, hold on? Do you have different categories
for how people look in the face.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
Well, I mean there's sharp faced people. There's people's face
looks like a hound. You know, there's smash faced people.
Speaker 10 (35:12):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
The other day I had a co host, him, George Reister.
You guys know George. Yeah, played the organ and George
George's daughter joined him at the station, and she said
a new word for ugly. Uh, and she defined me
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as ugly and that word.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Was chopped, chopped, chopped, so which would be considered crashing out?
She crashed out on.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
You, right, that's another word. The kids like therase, Why are.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
We inventing new ways of saying something that's been around forever?
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Because of stibbity. The kids say all kinds of stupid.
I mean, the kid's stuff now is terrible. You know.
When I was a kid, I remember saying like, that's
the bomb or I'm down with that, and then your
mom starts saying that, you know, is that something that
is down you know? And it's just like, no, that's
not you know? Is this also the bomb? You know?
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And and now I find myself being like, is that skimmedy?
What is skimmy made? And the kids are like, what,
shut up, you idiot? You know what's a guiachtang? Have
you heard all that stuff? M energy alpha? Yeah, they
damn energy.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Cringe is running wrong, Cringe is very strong, running rampant petros.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Have you heard the due yellow Ball song?
Speaker 8 (36:39):
There's two I heard.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, he's got he's got a new.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
One out, guns up on my.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Can we play this story for play it for Petros,
just to give a taste gangster.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
At a Chino hill.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
I mean that's what they're saying.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
Mastole my catalytic converterang No oh what.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It's very similar to the first Petros, Petros, What type
of music is it?
Speaker 8 (37:18):
This?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah? What type of music is it? Where's it belonged?
Speaker 8 (37:21):
Terrible modern hip hop?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
What do you make it? What did he make it for?
Speaker 8 (37:25):
Who did he make this for?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Who do he make it for? The beat?
Speaker 8 (37:30):
The lyrics, I would say, uh.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Come on, come on, Petros, come on, come on, Petros.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Who's it for? Yes, well, i'd say it's for white chicks.
But it doesn't sound like Drake. It sounds like it's
just like music for like suburban boys. Stripper music, Oh,
stripper music. Please please welcome Ginger to the man.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
There you go get it, Jonas, this is this is
your expertise, Jonas.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Ya yo yo yo yo yo? What up?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
It's about to be you?
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Lou Ravens on the stand A raven Why are you?
You know? You know? All right?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
So here's the difference.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
So that's that's the black strip clubs.
Speaker 8 (38:37):
That's the way like the tropical, like the tropical land.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Come on Yeah, yeah, but but if he does it
in a white strip club the way he does. Do
we have a different song for are we cute up
with a different.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
Cherry?
Speaker 10 (38:53):
Like?
Speaker 8 (38:53):
Do we do we have that?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Way? Like?
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Here comes the rain again? You know something like real.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Give us a thumbs up when you got you know
you're good. Let's do it here. Let's hear Jonas in
a different one. Here we go, right, y'all.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
She ain't just Lisa, she's mona Lisa on stage three.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
They don't make it rain when the music like this
is playing, though, do they?
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Are they rainers in this though?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Some guy's gotta got a Copenhagen, he's gotta horseshoe in?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
How do they give money to to the to the
to the stage to this type of music?
Speaker 4 (39:34):
How do they do it?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Do they throw it hits?
Speaker 5 (39:38):
They make a paper airplane of but don't do they
make a paper like?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
How do they What is the etiquette of giving money
to this music? Because I could tell you to the
other one.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
You put a bunch of quarters in a shotgun and
you shoot it. The worst part about this is I
interviewed the guys from Buck Cherry in studio. Good guys, like,
so here the guys from Buck Cherry. I should have
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asked him, do you know how many strip clubs love
your song? You know there's a there was a strip club,
uh that that we used to have to drive people
to that It was far away, and there was a
rule that said you could wear track pants, you know
where other words you couldn't. A car full of guys
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in track pants all geeked up taking them to upland dang,
I mean you know they let us play our own CDs. Hey,
I want to play Wu Tang forever while these trippers
November Rain who danced to this.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Petros, we appreciate it. Always a good time at the
old p on Axes where you can find him.
Speaker 8 (40:54):
He is the there was a difference between the Black
Strip club and the White strip I did I just
kidd make your rain all right?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
This is the all one of the new ones, that's
the old one exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You don't even know.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
You can't tell uh Petros, You Tim Kates, Matt money Smith,
you guys will be uh be up and firing away
later on today.
Speaker 8 (41:18):
I like not being on in l a and just
doing your show and just knocking all the ass.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
That's the new one. That's the new one she switched.
She switched it up to the new one. You wouldn't
even know if if she switched it.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
Now, I'm gonna go to seven eleven and get some
nerds and Chino Hills dang.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Apparently as well. They must have a strip club out
there too.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Oh yeah, the Tropic La and upland right man.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
There you petros. We appreciate it. Let's do it again
next week. All right, guys, the great Patrons.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
LeVar, you probably gonna be happy with this. Talk to me.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Tom Pelisero of the NFL, come on, come on, reporting
that the Minnesota Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls on
JJ McCarthy, telling other teams they're moving forward with him
as their quarterback. Sources say the team plans to add
a veteran, but they're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time.
McCarthy now enters this season as QB one Pelisero goes
(42:39):
on to say the Vikings continue to explore multiple options
for a veteran quarterback edition whether through free agency or
a trade. Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers options are now focused on
the Steelers and the Giants.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
You know, I don't know. Can I say I like
being I do like being right. I do like to
be right, And in this moment, I think God was right.
Minnesota was not. If you were going to do what
everything was being reported, then you just keep Sam Darnold.
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You don't move on from a guy that gave you
the season that he did to take a chance on
Aaron Rodgers. I just don't think that you do that,
especially if you're going to go with your draft pick
coming off of his injury.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
I mean, to me, I think it was taking too long.
If you're saying both sides wanted this to happen, and
it just seemed a little strange to me that it
was taking so long. It made me give pause and say,
I don't think it's Aaron Rodgers. I think it's Minnesota.
I think Minnesota had to decide do they want to
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do this or do they not want to do it?
It sounds like they don't.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Want to do it.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
I think it's interesting how this is worded, and I
believe especially when you're sitting out a tweet and it's
not us talking on radio where I mean, look, we're jackasses.
We don't always get it right right. We say things
sometimes we don't mean to say, or slip whatever. But
in this case, you have the opportunity to type that out.
Make sure this is how you want to portray this,
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especially considering how.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Big of news it is in the NFL. So I'm
gonna read it again.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
The Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls on JJ McCarthy,
telling other teams that are moving forward with him as
their quarterback. Sources say the team plans to add a veteran,
but they're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. So
what would what would change to make them pursue Aaron
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Rodgers at a later time?
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Maybe why wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
You just say we're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers or The
final sentence reads McCarthy and I ers the offseason as
QB one. Why wouldn't they just say McCarthy's our quarterback,
We're not looking at Aaron Rodgers anymore?
Speaker 2 (45:01):
It would literally be that simple. But for some reason,
and look.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
And just and this isn't like a shot at Tom Pellisero,
because this is Schefter, this is Ian Rappaport, this is Pelisera,
this is everyone. These guys now essentially copy and paste
what an agent or a source of someone kind of says,
and they can refute that. You can try to come
at me with all that. Doug Golly would probably put
this on his show her all that you've seen callous
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examples of mistakes that have been made where guys have
literally copied and pasted and left some stuff in there.
So what I'm what I'm pointing out is someone wanted
to portray this message of we're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers
at this time for what reason? I have no idea, Like,
if you're gonna commit to McCarthy, commit to him, what
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is it at this time? Is there a concern maybe
come off as injury, how he's recovering?
Speaker 8 (45:53):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Why is there concern that maybe what Aaron's asking for
where this whole thing is that is too.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Much for them, They don't want to do it. I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Like that struck me as odd based on how this
is worded in and look, maybe I'm reading way too
much into this, but again, when you have the opportunity
to tweet something out that you know is going to
make its round, that is going to make news. I
think you're pretty careful about how you word things. I
think you word them a certain way for.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
A reason, especially when you point out, look, we are
going to add a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
It's just not gonna be him, but JJ's our guy.
I think they made that clear start.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Well, they're going to add a veteran quarterback, but it
is Rogers, just not at this time.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Maybe, but I don't think that that's what it is.
I think they made their decision on JJ McCarthy when
they allowed Sam Darnold to leave. For sure, that's when
the decision was made. Now where you go from there,
it's like, Okay, does this make sense bringing in Aaron Rodgers?
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Does it make sense at what number? At what figure?
And are we bringing him in as a backup? Is
he fighting for the starting job or what does this
do to our draft pick? If we go from Sam Donald,
who just had the season he had to now bringing
in Aaron Rodgers to be a starter for what a
year or two.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
What does that look like? You know?
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I just think that if you were going to go
with a veteran that was going to start for your team,
you hold on to Sam Donald and that could be
for one to two years, just like if you were
going to move on to Aaron Rodgers is one to
two years. You're coming off of a strong year with
Sam Donald. Sure it ended, you know, not the way
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they would have liked it for the end, but there's
no reason to go away from that type of success
that you had. And Q you made some good points
about it the other day. Maybe they looked at it
and they were like, you know, character traits or did
he hit his ceiling that we stole one with, you know,
and we were able to get some value out of
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getting rid of them after one year using them. Maybe
that was the thought process. But I think that that
is very very that creates a very topsy turby a
very you know, kind of turbulent type of environment if
that you're going to go from Sam Donald to Aaron
Rodgers as your starting quarterback, which by the way, Sam
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Donald wasn't supposed to be the starter. It wasn't the
open competition until the injury took place, but he played
well as a starter. And again, if you're going to
wait to play JJ McCarthy, why would you allow Sam
Donald to walk? He was clearly valued, he landed with
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a team. Why would you just allow him to walk?
And then, oh, by the way, now we've created a
situation where we need a quarterback, and so now we're
going to go get the highest profile quarterback that's on
the free agency market. I just don't feel like that
made a ton of sense. Or Daniel Jones and you
let Daniel Jones walk, good point, A good point. I
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just why do you not hold on to Daniel Jones?
Speaker 6 (49:13):
Because Daniel Jones wants an opportunity to play, and I
think he went to a spot on a one year
deal that's going to give him the opportunity to play,
or at least a better opportunity to compete, even if
he's not the first quarterback in They give Anthony Richardson
the opportunity to start the season in Indianapolis at the
first sign of hey I need a break and come
off the field injury, what have you? It could be
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Daniel Jones's team and he can run with it.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
So you don't think that exists in Minnesota. He doesn't
have just as good an opportunity to get in there.
If it's him and JJ McCarthy going after it.
Speaker 6 (49:43):
Not to resurrect his career, no, because if it's him
and JJ McCarthy going after it, like he might start
this year, but JJ McCarthy's a top ten pick. With Richison,
you're in year three, like they've already been through it
where they've benched him for things and everything else. I
think there's a better chance of Danie Jones goes in
plays well. They would then sign him to an extension
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and then not commit to anthy Richardson on his fifth
year of his rookie deal because he'd be going into
year four. You have to make that decision after year three,
and at that point in time, it wouldn't be as
punitive to him. So I think it's two different situations.
But in regards to Rogers, I wonder if the Vikings
got tired of waiting, like there was an element of again,
this whole at this time is like, yeah, maybe he
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wanted to draw it out more, Maybe he needs more time.
Maybe there's some teams saying like, look, man, it's March
nineteenth today eighteenth. We've got to figure out our preparing
for the off season, like how we're gonna handle the draft,
how we're gonna handle the rest of free agency. We're
not going to keep waiting around for you to make
this decision. And we're not gonna get into a biding
war with the New York Giants or Pittsburgh Steels or
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anyone else. So this is where we're at. Like we
heard Cam Heyward earlier, maybe the Vikings had a similar
sentiment to all this and how they feel.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
Well, hey, it could be good news. The Steelers, you know,
might uh might get their guy after all.
Speaker 6 (51:03):
By the way, is it is a little upsetting too.
I know you got to get to the read, but
we're not gonna get like the Crocs and watch photo
and you had to follow exactly in the footsteps, which
is a little upsetting.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
I know.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
I know that g shock that Lee pointed out yesterday.
I know I still know in the end the name
of the watch that was in the photo, as if
he was really looking at the watch, it.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Is somebody else's background of his phone for a while.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
By the way, if that really was indeed true, I mean,
are we asking to have him removed from the show
like that day or do we wait a day?
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Like if that really is the is the truth show removals?
Huh yeah, that came up to that, h Lee.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Is that true that you had Brett Farre's picture as
the background on your phone, the infamous G Shock picture.
Speaker 4 (51:55):
No, that is not true.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Is it true that you have boxer shorts with Brett
Farve's face on your boxers?
Speaker 4 (52:04):
No, that is true, but I wonder if those exist.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
It Is it true you wear the me inside out
just to feel like, oh.
Speaker 5 (52:12):
Wow, happy birthday?
Speaker 4 (52:18):
Oh wow, Lee? Uh No, that would not know. Wow.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Okay someone told me you do that than maybe backwards
so you could eat your
Speaker 4 (52:32):
I like jelly
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