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Two Pros and a cup of Joe.
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Welcome back, buddy, Yeah joation, Happy birthday, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh hey, thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it.
One hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yes, not to you mean.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
We uh we talked yesterday about how we would never
really know your birthday. So we thought maybe you were
taking it off.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
For your birthday. No, no, never that okay, yeah, that
would never.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Uh it was.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
It is interesting though, you know, like on the eve
of April fools like you celebrate you one hundred and
fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I gotten.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Hanging around upside down and uh yeah I got to
uh got to hang out with the little man, took
him out, got him some baseball stuff, did some uh
you know, he turns four. So I had the Uh,
my wife likes to go really above and beyond when
it comes to the birthdays, which I was not.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Uh we do.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We don't really get all that growing up, so it's
a little weird for me to see the uh the production,
the presentation, but uh yeah, she loves it. And then
then it just turns into a giant mess and I
ended up having to clean it up.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
But do you have to clean it up? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, buddy, welcome to fatherhood.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, it's like, is that a I enjoined that club yet?
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Because my own plan on it either.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Maybe the next one?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah, is that a dad thing? Because yeah, maybe, with
the exception of LeVar, I think. I mean, look, dad's
responsible for cleaning up the messes basically, right, taking the
trash out.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Take the trash. I do, take the trash out.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Sometimes your kids are old enough to you can give
them chores, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
I mean, Hey, I was told that you were made
to work like I used to have to get out.
I can recall being dead sleep and I hear them, hey, hey,
wake up out of your sleep, come here, turn the
light on, go back to your room. Like ten minutes later, Hey, hey,
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come here, hey, change the this How old I am?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Change the channel four man? Yeah, back of the remotes?
What yeah you're the remote?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Hey, come here, change change the yeah yeah, put on
chin channel eleven, Channel eleven yeah WPX, yeah right there,
yeah yeah, okay thanks? Oh oh yeah yeah, hey, hey,
give me a glass of water too. You know the
one that I like, the big gold cup that that
I said, yeah yeah with some ice okay, uh yeah, okay,
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thank you, uh uh and the lazed potato chips. I
remember like it was yesterday. So I don't do that
ass as an adult. I mean I do it, but
I don't. I don't do chores all like that because
I was chored out as a kid.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, but it doesn't give you anxiety like it gives
me borderline anxiety to see everything laying around, the wrapping,
the boxes, all that.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Just laying around. I gotta grab it right away or
else it just bother.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Because because that's the other thing is that's a male trait.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Most men they want to get the job done, Like
they see something they're like that needs to get done.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I'm gonna do it now. Well, because you know.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
The female trade to want to do it now. Wait,
till after that it's all set and done.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Oh yeah, my wife does that all the time.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'll just get it in the morning. In the morning
the party is over.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I will stay up later to clean it up because
I don't want to wake up to the mess because
that'll just piss me off again.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I don't want to be annoyed twice. So I just
want to get it done.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Otherwise it's going to be in the back like you
gotta do this, you gotta go clean that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I just would rather get it done.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
I gotta give church credit because that's what that's what
she does.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Mean she does that, she knocks out. What do you
what do you do? And what if you do? I
do nothing. I don't do anything.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Happy Mother's Day. Here's a hefty here's a hefty bag.
Yeah yeah, get to work. Hey, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Stay out of the way. You want to know what I do.
I'm a professional, like staying out of the way.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
I hear, I hear vacuum cleaners get going and stuff
like that. I get out. I get I get awaiting
like it's an assault rifle. Hey look here, man, yes,
get down.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
R know your exits are.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Hey man, I get out of the way, I smell fabulo,
so I go right back out the door. If I
walk in the house and I smell fabulo, so immediately
upon arrival, I turn around, I go right back out
the door. I'm gonna go get a coffee or something.
I'm check the oil something, I'm gonna do something. But
I'm getting a hell up out of the way.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So what if she what if she asks you to help,
it says hey.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I'll help, and I even offer, I offer it, And
I've been with her long enough where she understands that
I'm only offering as as a technicality to say that
I care enough to offer, Please do not take me
up on it. Do not take me up on my offer.
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And we've been looking together long enough for her to
know that. So thank you, Chrich appreciate that. But she
handles everything. She's she's cooking barbicoa right now, like right now,
she's up like making barbico right now. Yeah, it's going,
it's gonna it's gonna be ready by noon or one
one pm. You know, that was that twelve thirteen fly
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out there for that bro. It is the flame with
the cilantro and onions, that the mix that she puts together.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And you know, I've been eating Keto. I've been on
this Keto deal and that's all meat, right.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Well, no, it's it's like it's like you stay away
from what like uh, starches and stuff like that, anything
like super unhealthy or whatever. Like I don't really know
what it means, but that's what I've been told, and
I'm just full following the routine. It's been good though,
I mean my belly has felt better. Yeah, what's going
on over there?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Then? What he got?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
I mean, you got all kinds of bendon, gave me
a brownie, you got safe to Molly's.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
A matter a matter of sixty seconds. LeVar got a
bag full of Tamali's and a brownie. Yeah, that Keto
can kiss my ass.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Well, I listen, I'm not loyal. I'm not loyal to it.
Very few things I'm loyal to, man, And I ain't
loyal to a diet. I ain't never met a diet
that I was like faithful to ever in my life.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Never. So there you go. There you have that.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
Happy birthday, Drew, happy birthday, And I'm glad your daddy'd
be cleaning up after your ass.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah, all right, he says grossiest by the way. He
was getting a little irritated though. You know, he was
ready to get it in and you was holding him back,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah he uh yeah, little moment there, huh, that was
a few.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Moments, but yeah, he uh yeah. It was wild, you know,
I mean it's a four year old birthday party.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Yeah. And how many people were there? How many how
many were in attendance for him, not for you to parents,
for him, for him, there's probably thirty thirty kids. No
that not that many kids. How many kids like that's
what I'm saying, not for for ten to twelve kids
like that. Yeah, yeah, that's that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Was he overwhelmed? He had?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He just wanted to play bowling the entire time. He
was just bowling the entire time, the entire time.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Now, did he get the bowling like it's from you?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
He just loves playing like air hockey, uh pop a shot,
bowling like he loves it.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
He likes to compete.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Are you are you trying to kind of like almost
Todd Marinovitch your son right now? Are you trying to
like you know, it sounds like and if he turns
into a meth head that like walks around in other
people's mountains, I'm not going to be held accountable for
It's not me.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
That's middle names just saying.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
It sounds like you're trying to build him up right now.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Andrew Lee, damn Andrew Lee. The lap knocks?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Hey Lee?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
How is Lee doing this morning?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I mean, Lee's been solid, man, I ain't gonna lie
he's I don't know. I haven't seen any I haven't
seen any breaks or cracks in the armor lately. Man,
He's been you know, I don't know. Man, he's been cohering.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He's been boring.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I mean, is that what is that how you describe it?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I mean, you know sucks he's going on? You know, yeah,
because there's things I'd rather be too. But you know, Lee,
you know, do you not feel better? No? No, I
feel worse. I feel like I feel the pains. Is
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it happening on the air? That's crazy? My man?
Speaker 6 (11:11):
My man said, living straight has has made me feel worse.
They say it's supposed to make you feel better when
you make like a you know, a life switch like that.
You know, like, I don't know, it seems weird. But
hey man, you know you've looked solid to me. He
ain't came in here with the no snort, no snorts,
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no no, no lazy eye, nothing, no banged up knee.
Nothing do hurt hey man on the inside. Yeah, hey man,
I'm just saying, get older. Good for you, Lee, Yeah,
good for you man.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Like everybody's Uh, now, when do you plan on dipping
into those Tamali's.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
When's that going to happen? At the break?
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I told you I have one or two. I don't listen.
If it's good, I have one or two. If it's
not good, I'll have a bite, take a bite of it,
you know, just saying Tomali's could could decide not to
agree with me, and me not agree with the tomali
And I don't want to end up on Lee's time, you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Know, Washington down with coffee though. That's it probably gonna
end up poorly. That's not Yeah, that's not positive. That
natural diuretic that ain't That ain't a good thing. Definitely
not well. Have everyone happy April Fool's Day. It's everybody
out there there, you go, anybody, this is a sports show,
cheeseball cornball jokes.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Uh. Social media has made it so much worse than
it used to be used to be. You just had
you had one goofball clown friend who would make a joke.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Like a terrible dad joke, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Or a terrible name joke like what like Mike oh my.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
About that? And he did admit that he did not
co sign on that for digital.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, I did not.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
They wanted me to collaborate on it. I would not collaborate.
I would not want to. I'm not giving you. I'm
not giving my audience to me getting Mike roched.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Really, you know, I was thinking about it because you
told your son about it on FaceTime and You're like, yeah,
they DZ nuts me, And I'm like, yeah, that really
is the nuts.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
It's just very culturally different, Like y'all caught me off guard,
was at the White Guys.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
D it must be.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Because I've never heard of a crotch joke being like
delivered to your face.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's always nuts being delivered to your face.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's a play on a name.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's d's nuts D first name, D last name. It's yes,
it is no.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Whenever you say who, you get somebody to say who,
you say.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It's it's entirely different because it's it is.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I get it. It's cultural. That's it. I just was entirely.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
It's not cultural either, more a as more of a
play on the actual name itself.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
That's I have never heard a black man say Mike
Crotch like Mike Crotch, Mike Rotch like Seymour.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Exactly.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Seymour Butts is a real that's a real thing, though,
Like that is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I don't know if you know points.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's more about the name, bro.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Forget about it, forget about it's cultural.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think this is why you missed it in the
first place, and only open yourself up.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
It's having this happen again in the future.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It will, it will, it's possible. It's but but I
got my guard up. Now.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
You know, you won't get me with a Seymour Butts
like you won't like you will not. You will not
get me with a Mike Roch anymore like y'all won't.
Y'all won't get me. I told you the other one
I thought about using. I was like, yeah, I'll get
thrown off the air. Yeah, that wouldn't have been that's
not that one would not.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well, yeah, but they won't.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Land with me anymore, because now I'm in on your shenanigans,
like your cultural shenanigans. Of how y'all want to use names?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You know, Okay, every single time we give you a
name of an article.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
I won't forget a question it. No, I will not
address it. I will not address it. Every time I
hear you guys say a name connected to an article,
I will not address.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
The interesting thing is you said that what we were
doing was immature. It might be even more immature now
that you're not willing to talk about anything. We have
to bring up with a name of an article.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Maybe maybe, and y'all.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
And y'all chose to do it at the perfect time,
because I know I got the tad bit emotional when
y'all were coming that, Abdul, the way that like this
article is kind of the only reason this mother lover
wants to come out.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Abdul. What's this guy's name?
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Oh, Mike Rotch Okay, you punk like okay, come see me.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
So I'm gonna call my shot here and I will
say this as far as April Fools goes. Roberto Berto,
our former technical, will be the first one to send
over a link to the San Francisco dude. Yeah, you
know the website with the guy sitting on the edge
of the bed with a Doberman hanging down from his lap.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, so that'll be that. Roberto will be the first
one to send that over today. Mark my words, he's
not away.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And then he'll be like, no, just click it, just
stick it, And I'm like, no, Berto, we all know
what this is, bro. It's an old joke.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Hey if would you cick that link or what fool? Yeah,
I'm so upset.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
I'm so upset. You just see the headlines today like
what was the headlift?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh? You know what? You know what. I'm actually a
little bit of by.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
People have been starting April Fools early. So the Tampa
Bay Airport actually put out a tweet I think like
three days early, and it was supposed to I guess
preempt April Fools.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I can go find the tweet. It basically said they
were shutting down the airport because so many people were
complaining all this stuff. I don't know who runs their
social media account, but they need to be fired. But like,
that's the other thing that bothers me about April Fools.
It's not a big enough deal, or you need to
start it in March.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
No, like I know you don't need to start in
April at all.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like, can you just move on from it? It's not funny. Yeah,
people are gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So if you do get any sort of a link
from the SF Chronicle, just be be warned. There is
there's something on the other side that would not be
appropriate for certain people y're around.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Just adds up.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
with you. So we are gonna have the usuals. We
got another edition of In case you missed it, We've
got Lee's Leftovers. Pete Prisco is gonna stop by as
well too, but it's an early edition of prisco An
Hour two because Lee he's got some sort of a breakfast.
Pete's got some sort of a breakfast.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
He's going to be hanging out. Heats. Breakfast is like
hanging out.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
With like is a GMS. He's got a GM breakfast
or a coach? Yeah, okay, yeah whatever, So Pete's gonna
yeah whatever, Pete.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
He'll talk like two coaches because most of them hear
what he says, and they'll try to avoid him.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
At this point.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Uh So all of that is yours here on this
three hour extravagan to coming up next here though somebody
is finally admitted, they finally admitted a little bit of
a mistake in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
We'll get into that for you here on FSR.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
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Speaker 1 (19:10):
Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I'm thinking that loud LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
of the air, is that Kanye West? You got taller,
way taller, got way taller thang where you get that
outfit from? Yeah, Brady, did you see Kanye West's recent
(19:37):
outfit he was sporting.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I have not look up Kanye West interview with DJ Academic.
You'll get to see his outfit. DJ Academic, Oh that
was him. That's Kanye West. You didn't know that who you.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Thought that was? I just saw the outfit was hardy alls. Well,
I just saw the outfit that.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Is, Uh, that's something.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He was a big fan of cone heads.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Dang is that a thing?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Uh, that's his thing. Clearly it's very interesting outfit. He
chose to use.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
These fashion trends these days. There you go.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
I mean, yeah, you know, curious to see if that
one catches on. You know, there used to be a lot,
used to be a lot connected to that one. When
you've seen that come around, you know, depending on what
side you was on.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I mean, I've never seen one in black. I've never
seen one in person.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
And I just sent you guys a picture of a compilation.
I'm not sure if this is the same episode, a
comparison of something, but.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. I mean yeah, I mean I
have a point. He does you know?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I mean, does that say more on the bottom?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I didn't say more. Sorry.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
See that's where it gets interesting, Like people like you
want to go down that lane.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
A few people.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Racist Kanye is sure is provocative, you think, Yeah, it
might be a little bit further across the line than that.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I was hoping that the outfit involved is it his
X or are they still together?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
They're still together I mean his wedding. No, they're not
give us an update. Lee, I believe they split. I
don't think I split. After they split, they're still together.
He's got his wedding ring on.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
In the interview, Lee was hoping that. Well, no, Lee
wasn't hoping that that's not his. That's not his.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Uh, you wouldn't, ye, he's got a wedding ring on that.
I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I couldn't get past the hat. Yeah, you know, you
gotta work your way down. No, I guess interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well I do know this Coming up here a little
over fifteen minutes from now, we've got an update on
a major controversy in the world of sports. We'll get
into that for you here on FSR. Speaking of controversial,
the Cleveland Browns a few years ago made a controversial.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, the Cleveland brown sit alone. It's controversial. Damn. That's
where Abdul's gonna end up. Yeah right, yeah he might.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
The betting odds would say, yeah, he's probably gonna go
two to the Browns. But nonetheless, the Cleveland Browns made
a mistake, so much so that their owner Jimmy has
them finally fest up to the mistake yesterday at the
league's annual meeting. Jimmy Haslm, the owner of the brown said, quote,
we took a big swing and a miss with DeShawn.
(22:53):
We thought we had the quarterback, we didn't, and we
gave up a lot of draft picks to get him.
So we've got to dig ourselves out of that hole.
The trade was an entire organization decision, and it ends
with d has them and I so hold us accountable.
That from the Browns owner yesterday.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Oh all right, I realized, well, hey man, I appreciate
the honesty. I do respect the fact that he's willing
to take responsibility for this, But I got some questions.
I got some questions because I'm just I'm curious if
he still has the player on the roster, all right,
(23:30):
and from all accounts to Sean Watson's trying to come back,
do you think you're helping anyone out, in particular your
general manager, Andrew Berry.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
If you are saying this about a guy who's.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Still on your team, how are you able to trade
him and for whatever you can get back in return
in draft, capitol, player, something, anything, anything other than just
straight out releasing to Shawn Watson and allowing him to take.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Everything he took.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I just move on, Like how do you not get
anything back in return? It's like, my god, dude, like,
don't say this now. He's still on your team. That's
the first question is like why are you saying this
right now?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
The second is.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
If he's gonna be honest about the decision to do
it in the first place. I'd love to go back
and I'd love to ask Jimmy Haslim what happened with Baker?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
What was the fallout? And I've had some.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
People who like somehow try to defend Deshaun or even
his like play in Cleveland or something, and they're like, no, man,
bilker Stone is last year.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's like, dude, he was playing banged up.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
And even then, even if you thought he wasn't playing
well his final year with Cleveland, it's better than what
Deshaun's done his entire time in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So I would love to know what was the fallout
with Baker?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Why a guy who took you to the playoffs beat
Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, which is it's a huge monumental moment
I think at that time for Browns.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Fans, like what fell apart? Like what happened there?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
And then what happened so much that it led you
to then want to co sign on a player that
you could talk about. Deshaun Watson's upside what he was
in Houston, he was a year removed from that. He
didn't play football in twenty twenty one. His last season
playing in Houston was twenty twenty. They were a four
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and twelve football team. His stats were fantastic. A lot
of that came while they were trailing. In fact, twenty
six of his touchdowns that year were while they were trailing.
And I understand they had a bad defense, but there
was a lot of garbage time stats that were putting
that too. And so yes, you can say, hey, we
saw the upside, we really believed. Okay, well that wasn't
the same guy you were getting. He had twenty four
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different lawsuits for sexual misconduct.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
An assault, and yet you signed on to that the
greatest contract player has ever seen in NFL history. Help
it make sense, and by the way, that still followed him.
He's still had a lawsuit that popped up in September
of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Like that's what I want to know, is like forget
to saying okay, sorry are bad.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
We messed up? How do you get there? Because if
you want to say, like, all right, we're gonna hold
you and your wife d accountable, help us then understand why,
if you're a Browns fan out there, why we should
believe in you at all moving forward?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
If that's if we can't understand your decision making process,
your rationale, and maybe you say, well, I'm rich, you
don't have to I own the team. Great, okay, but
how the hell do you expect people to support any
decision you make after owning up to this, and even
when you're owning up to it, doing it at the
worst possible time, Like That's more of my frustration with
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all this is, like, how can I trust you moving
forward after you made a decision like this. I'm not
like trying to get people to say, oh, you use
to sell the team.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
It's not that. I mean, he's trying. Clearly, paying Miles
Garret more than any what non quarterback we've seen, and
making him happy, keeping him there, how much money's put
into it as supposed with the new stadium, everything else
that's going to go along with that. He's trying.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
But at some point you have to remove yourself from
the decision making process. If this is what you get,
and we don't have to look too far, then look
back to every single head coach he ran through when
he first took over the majority ownership. It was year
after year after year and no one got a chance.
And then the tanking and everything else that they were
a part of. And I finally got the roster to
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a point and the high water mark, the high point
was that win in Pittsburgh with Baker Mayfield as your quarterback.
So help me understand, like, what went wrong in the
next eighteen months that followed that, because it could have
just been, hey, he didn't have a great season the
following year when you knew he was playing banged up.
There's something more there, and I'd rather know that so
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I can at least have some sort of thought moving forward, saying, yeah, okay,
I can understand why he did what he did, but
you know, maybe we should put our trust into him
moving forward with however they go about addressing the quarterback situation.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
It's Cleveland. I mean, that's that's what went wrong. It's Cleveland.
It's never gone right. I mean they got rid of
the team. Art Modelle realized it was Cleveland and he
got the hell up out of there and on the
Mayflower truck and went.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
On won a Super Bowl and Baltimore Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You know you could say Baltimore, but yeah, thinking about
got the hell up out of there.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, I was thinking about when Brady's breaking down, like
the history and the move and Baker Mayfield, and it's like, Okay,
why did you decide that you needed to have Deshaun
Watson to move on from Baker Mayfield. And Jimmy hasm
probably thought, Hey, we're a quarterback away. And I wonder
how many Browns fans are like, no, we're an owner away.
Let me like, we're an owner away from competing, not
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a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
So let me give you my thought on why why
they came out and took you know, ownership, took responsibility.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I think there's two reasons.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
One, you're freeing Kevin Stefanski and this coaching staff from
the debacle of bringing him there. You're freeing the team
and you're freeing the coach because I think a lot
of it you were if you think back Stefanski was
falling on the sword for for ownership or whoever made
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the decision, he was falling on it. He said he
took takes full responsibility, and I remember we had the
conversation on this show about that, And to me, I
think that he was on the clock and he was
in a no win situation, being being in the situation,
being in the scenario that he found himself in with
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the Deshaun Watson the bacle. So to me, I feel
like as a as an owner, maybe he made the
decision to free the head coach. And now as you say, okay,
well we're we're clearly going to have to figure out
how to win without Deshaun Watson for now. And so
by figuring out how to win without Deshaun Watson, disconnect
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Deshaun Watson from the from the equation. And I think
that by him coming out and saying that he disconnected,
I think that's a successful disconnect because now the players
are like, Okay, the ownership is saying.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
That we made a mistake. We can move on from it.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Coaches can move on from it and not feel like
they're in blazon too having to make it work with
Deshaun Watson. That's one, and then the second they weren't
going to be able to make it work this year anyway,
hold on, let me finish the second.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
You know what you're saying, right.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Yeah, I mean I I they're not not going to
make it work because he can't play. But I think again,
I think successfully severing your coach and your players from
Deshaun Watson and what that represents, because we all know
what it represents. You are locked into him based off
of the guarantees in the contract. I think you have
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now given this team the opportunity to move on without
having that cloud over your head even though he's there.
I would say the second part of it is is
I remember when I was younger and I did something
in the sixth grade. I was, I guess I'll be transparent.
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I was in the hotel room we went on like
a school trip.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
We were in Orlando.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
We were at Disney World, and we were all hanging
out in one of my classmates rooms and I was lighting.
You know, they used to have matches in the room
because you smoking the room back then, and whatever I
was sitting, I had to go to rest room and
I remember, you know it's like you light a match
if you go number two because it takes away to smell.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
I took it a step further because I was kind
of bored. I was sitting in there and I was
light matches. But then I started melting soap like I
was like using the match to melt soap, had time
on my hands. I don't know why I was doing it,
but I was doing it. Anyways, my one friend started
light matches and just flicking them like light a match,
flick it. Well, the assistant principal's kid was in the room.
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He goes back. He tells Miss Abraham, you know there
is in their light matches.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
This and that.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
I got suspended for this, right just because I was
melting soap in the bathroom, Like I got suspended.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Like that's stupid, but I get suspended.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
My mom teaches in the same school district, so she's
like this big time high up, you know, well respected
educator died to died this, that and the other. And
they bring they bring my mom and onto the bus
and they tell everybody who got in trouble, your kids
are getting suspended. Here's while they get suspended. My mom
tells me we made a big mistake. There was a
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tremendous mistake made. And I was like, well, what you know.
Here we go like what was it we made you?
That was the mistake, the moment we made you. That
was a mistake that we made, and it's a mistake
that we have to live with. Right That hit me
in a way, It hit me in a way where
I actually came to It was a come to Jesus
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moment where I was like, I'm not wanted. My parents
don't love me, they don't want me. They just called
me a mistake. And you know what, I started working out.
That was the year I started. I started. I started
doing push ups. I started using my dad's his like
his what you call the pig iron. I started using
this pig iron set in the basement. I started walking
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and running around the neighborhood, and I started doing more
because I was so devastated by my mom saying that
I was her biggest mistake.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You know, he kit's a pyromaniac. I don't blame her.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, forget you anyway, This is the same situation, Deshaun
Watson is now your your ownership just told you you're
their biggest mistake. And you can either look at this
as well, I'm their mistake, but hey, I got my
money and you move on with your life. That way,
or you can look at it and say, this motivates
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me to prove that I'm not your biggest mistake. I'm
not the mistake, I'm not the liability. I'm going to
prove that that's not who I am. And he can
take this and accept this as a come up challenge.
You got time to recover and build your body back,
build your mind back, and say, look, I have nothing
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to lose, everything to gain because he has had everything
thrown at him, including money. He has had everything thrown
at him in a very very negative manner because it's
been earned.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
And now you've.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Disconnected the team and the coach from him, which means
now it's easier to disconnect from him all together and
just forget about him. Is he going to be okay
with this? So that could be a major come up
for Deshaun Watson in terms of moving forward.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
The next time he'll be able to play, all right,
keep this in mind. He will have played nineteen games,
all right, in the past five years.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Five years, nineteen games.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
He will be available sometime this season though, right, No,
not at all.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
No, he's probably not playing at all.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
No, I mean, he's definitely not playing for the Browns.
But it didn't seem like with the additional surgery he
would be available in time.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
So Tang, you know, he's documenting his rehab.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
You know, well, yeah, you gotta get more money somehow.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
He's hurting for cash.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I mean, well, and think about this.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
They settled all twenty four of the lawsuits and even
the most recent one in September, which obviously those the
numbers aren't public, but I would imagine a fair amount
of what he's paid out millions is going to a
lot of those victims or alleged victims.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well do you mean a fair amount?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
You saying that those those settlements have heard him financially.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Uh, maybe they've hurt him to some degree. We don't
know how much. Yeah, let's let's I mean, let me
ask you this. You have twenty four different lawsuits, you
have legal fees to that that mounted up over that
point of time.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Do you think they accepted a million bucks per lawsuit?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah? Is that somewhere somewhere and around there.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
But that's what I'm saying is as I would say,
less less to that being like right around the ceiling
of it, because you'll get you'll get to a certain
point where if I'm Deshaun Watson and I'm maintaining my
innocence on it, which it is all kind of you know,
you know, circumstantial or from you know, interpretation. If we
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get to a certain amount of money, I'm just gonna
fight it. I'm just if I got to spend this
amount of money, I'm just gonna go ahead and pay
my lawyers to fight it.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
But you also have you also have a one hundred and
sixty five million dollars after taxes in America, Yeah, guaranteed,
like they're for you.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
So there's two thoughts to it. You can fight it.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
But the other side of it is someone's gonna say, dude,
it's not worth it if you're trying to play football.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And that's correct. That's correct. So I would say it's
around the middle side of it.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
From the victims, you would say, you'd ask for plenty
of more and you know, be somewhere in the middle
and hopefully that can satisfy whatever wrongdoing has been done
and you feel like justice.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Has I agree with you there. I don't think it's well.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
That's why I'm saying about I would imagine the numbers
north of that.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Of a million per person, Yes, yeah, I would agree
with that.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
And then, by the way, that's not including legal fees.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Right right, Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
So you're talking probably close to what twenty five, twenty
six and between twenty five to thirty million, right.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Double that, thirty double it, I would say, doubleab probably
a year's salary.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
God dang if it's sixty million. To deal with that.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Between legal fees and payment everything else. Yeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
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Speaker 2 (39:38):
In case you missed this, I think we all need
a small update on the torpedo bats from the Yankees.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
If we can sure teams are lining up in droves
to get the bats.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
It apparently takes four weeks to make because they're custom
but reportedly the Yankees were using this all the way
back to last postseason.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Gencrol Stanton, my guy was hitting seven home runs fourteen postseason.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Games in the torpedo bat. They're not going to ban them.
Other players have used it too, Yeah, Braves have ordered
them said they've used them in the spring games, and
it's evolution. Man, I mean, there's wrong with it.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I guess we talked about it yesterday. We really didn't know,
like the the amount of use. So I guess the
Yankees what play by play fella was okay to draw
attention to it because they've been doing it for a while.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
Yeah, well there you go. Yeah, go for them, Go
ahead and make a play, Go Yankees, bam.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, alright, Hour two