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April 3, 2025 44 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Live from the JamesHardie Pro Football Hall of Fame Invitational, Brady gives play-by-play of Patriot fan "Ebay-ers" trying to dodge security to seek autographs.  The great Tim Brown stops by to talk about how the game has changed since his playing days. The NFL fixes parts of the Overtime rule but still leaves room for ties which is just un-American.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Airings and Brady Winn and Jonas Knox
on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Brady Quinn, how the hell are things going at the
James Hardy Pro Football Hall of Fame Invitational in Boca
at the Old Course and broke in.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's going well, it's going well. We tied yesterday in
our group, at least for that would have liked to
would have liked to finished a little better, but it's
all right. Day two is today, and I will say this,
it is open to the public, so there's just a
different feel right now around it because there'd be a
lot of fans kind of pouring in and through wanting

(00:45):
to see some of the senior PGA Whour players, but
also the Pro Football Hall of Fame players that are here.
And there's a slight chance someone's gonna hit with the
golf ball and I could potentially be one of those
people hitting someone with the golf ball. So the anxiety
has already started on my end of things. But yet
it's it's an amazing setup. They've done a tremendous job
setting us up and we kind of talked about it
yesterday there's obviously a huge charitable impact to in the community.

(01:09):
Three main charities, Habitat for Humanity, the first team in
the book over its own regional hospital. They've already raised
over three million for the book. Or it's on regional hospital. So, uh,
it's not just about golf and fun and all the
prop pro Football Hall of famers. They're doing a lot
of good work out here as well. Can we tap.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
In a Pro Football Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
And my fellow irishman and Tim Brown is joining us now?
Is that all right?

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Gold?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Let's bring it on, Tim? Can we do Can we
do this the right way?

Speaker 6 (01:38):
Though?

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Can we?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
We want to do this the right way for you,
So let's do this the right way.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Oh god, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
That's right, that's right. I know you got us this year.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
That's all right, you got us this year.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
On Tim Brown joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
Phoks state the Hall of Famer. Tim, how's your golf game?
We were talking yesterday and just trying to figure out
whether or not Calvin Johnson was nervous about the whole thing.
How's your golf game going into this event?

Speaker 6 (02:13):
You know, I've been playing a lot of golf. Man.

Speaker 7 (02:14):
There was an event called the Pro the Pro Tour
about two weeks ago in Dallas, Man, when you had
the walk, we walked for three days, and I played six.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Days in a row golf. I don't know if I've
done that in a long time.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
So, but you know, hey, at this particular point, I
know where my misses are going to be, and so
I just try and play to that and keep the
ball in plate man, you know, So it's not bad.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
How many of these events, though, is there gonna be
a crowd around, because that's the one thing now like today,
it's open to the public. Yeah, I'm a little concerned
about that for some people out there.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
No, I mean it's a real deal too, man.

Speaker 7 (02:50):
I mean it doesn't matter how many people you played
in front of with the football helmet on.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
This is this is a little different.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
So I think long as they keep people like immediately
away from the tea boxes where people can't get really hurt,
you know, you know, two hundred ears down, maybe it's
not as bad.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I almost use that grandstand on eighteen as a backboard.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Right right.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
Yeah, Look, it's gonna be some shots in the stands,
for sure.

Speaker 8 (03:16):
I want to go back, what's this, LeVar tim I
want to go back to this Jerry Jones statement and
David Mullaghetta's his response to it went from your experience
and you've always been considered one of like what's considered
to be like the upper class, like handles things the
right way, just all around like solid, good dude. How

(03:40):
would you handle a situation like this if you found
yourself playing at the level that Michael Parsons is playing at,
and you probably know you're gonna get a deal done
with the organization, but the owner comes out and says
something as you mentioned in Jerry Jones fashion, how do
you handle that? How would you handle this?

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Well?

Speaker 7 (03:59):
You know I had I had an owner similar to
to Jerry Jones. You know, Al Davis was that guy.
And in fact, if you look back at the history
of Jerry Jones here you would find that he said
many times the man he yeah, the man he had
my motes in life was was Al Davis.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
So, uh, you know, look, there.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
Was a situation with me my after my first four years,
I got injured, had a great rookie year, got injured,
my second year, third and fourth the year which were
getting better but I chose to look at me as
just a guy, right and and wouldn't let me come
to training camp. I wanted to come to training camp,
didn't want to miss a day, end up missing two

(04:38):
weeks of training camp simply because Al Davis, you know,
wanted to look at other receivers, you know, to see
if there was anybody better than Tim Brown out there.
So that's a very difficult position to be in. Thankfully
we didn't have social media social media at the time,
but certainly you know, there were friends in the media.
I could have called and uh and got my got
my message out. But sometimes you just I just got

(05:00):
to bite your tongue, man, you really do and think
of this for the long term of the team and
not yourself, because even you know, at that young part
of my career, there were people looking at me to
see how I was going to react to the situation.
And I think we handled the situation but as good
as we possibly could at the time.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Pro Football Hall of Famer Tim Brown joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio. Tim, you went a ten year
stretch in your career where you didn't miss a game
and we're not talking you just played receiver. You return kicks,
you were used as more of an all purpose player.
How were you able to maintain your durability during a
ten year stretch with nowadays it seems like, you know,

(05:41):
guys are missing time left and right.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
Yeah, you know, for me, man, there was nothing more
important than you know, me being healthy and being able
to participate in practice and things of that nature for
the team. I mean, I wasn't a party guy, you know,
even though we're in LA at the early part of
my career. You know, Monday nights, Sunday night, Monday night,

(06:05):
you get your party in. After that, man, you know,
you got to prepare yourself for the next weekend. So
I think, you know, I wasn't a drinker. I never
had a drink in my life, so, you know, so
that helps out tremendously, right, you know. So I think
when you take some of those vices away and you
have a real fear of failing, you know, you're coming
with a Heisman trophy and people say, oh, well, you

(06:26):
know what that means. That's a curse, you know, And
so I think, you know, then you have a little success.
You know, my rookie year come back two or three
four years, three years later, and go to Pro Bowl again,
and now I'm getting a shot at being the starting
receiver in ninety two. I think from that standpoint, all
those things to me meant you got to take care
of your body. And and there was some practices I

(06:48):
probably shouldn't have played, some games I probably shouldn't have
played in. Look, I'm gonna tell you all this. I
played at a game I had a hamstring problem. The
trainer tied a bicycle in or two to my butt
and to my calf.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
And I played in a game like that.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
So that's definitely And I scored a sixty five year
touchdown too, So.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Your leg wait, wait, wait a second. So to describe that,
and how did he come up with that idea?

Speaker 7 (07:18):
You know, George Anderson man, he was the best, I mean,
old school raider guy rader.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
And he was like, don't worry about I got your
hamstring to me, don't worry about it.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
You know.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
I was like, bro, what are you talking about? My
hamstring is jacked up. He was like, what I'm gonna
do to you? You want to feel your hamstring? And
I'll tell you I actually did well until I scored
on that long, long pass and did after that, I.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Couldn't play anymore.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
But uh yeah, yeah, a bicycle in a two tied
to my calf and my butt and it sort of
took the place of my my hamstree.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
It provided like a little That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
You talked about your heisman, You've talked about obviously your
career in the NFL. You have such great perspective on
on so many things. There's a lot of things I
could ask you. I'm generally going to ask you that
I'm curious to get you your thoughts on where college
football is at now and just where you think it
needs to go. And then same thing in the NFL,

(08:11):
like are we getting to a point where eventually they
have eighteen games? You look at the media landscape of TV,
maybe streaming networks, is it some people would ask like
is it too much? Like is the season getting too long?
How these player are going to sustain themselves to stay healthy?
Just coming off that conversation, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
You know, I think when you look at college football, man,
I just think there needs to be a reset. I mean,
I think that what's happening now is is really getting
out of control. And look, I'm all for guys getting paid,
which we would have got paid. Back in the day,
some guys did get paid, but not at no today.
But I know some guys I played with the league.
Look a bit true, Man, I got buddy, I got

(08:50):
I got paid. But no, Look, I just think, you know,
you're not a professional football team, and to be negotiating
as if you are on a professional football team is.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
It's a little tough. Man.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
I just think for these colleges, man, you know it's
going to become the half and a half, not Toment.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Would you be upset if it basically turns into that
because it feels like we're slowly walking towards that.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Now.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah, I don't want to see.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
A college pro league and in the NFL, I don't
want I don't want to see that.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Man.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
I want college football to be what it is, you know.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
I mean, our.

Speaker 7 (09:31):
Institution represents the game, I think as best you possibly can.
And you know, you still have guys who are going
to college to get an who think about a degree
in case football doesn't work out, And you know, look,
I just think that this thing is just heading in
the wrong direction, man, and it's heading there quickly.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
That's the issue. And when you look at the NFL. Man.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
Look, I don't know what the NFL is going to
do because they have money that they have to spend,
and if they don't spend it, then it goes into
this tank where you know, the league, you know, will
will spread out the money themselves. So I just think
that it's gonna be very difficult. I'm telling people, you're
gonna have one hundred million dollars quarterbacks in a minute.

(10:12):
You're gonna have You're gonna have one hundred million dollar
defensive guys in a minute. You're gonna have fifty million
dollar receivers. You know, because the money is out there
and this gambling money being added to it is just
gonna make everything keep going up.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
Jeez, you're right. How did I asked Kylevin Johnson? How
would he have done in today's NFL? How you talked
about practices you shouldn't have been in and different things
like that. I mean, I'm I'm younger than you look
by a little bit, but we were still doing three
a days at times and training camp. And guys don't,

(10:47):
like you say three of days, they don't even comprehend that.
And two of them you were in pads, you know,
training camp used to be more of a grind than
even a game, Like how would you have done with
the schedule the way it is now, with the way
that they look at concussions and how they treat mental
health and all the things, and not to mention all

(11:09):
the rules and legislation it is to take guys like
me away from being able to do things to guys
like you on the football field.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Right.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
Well, look, man, you know, I'm constantly reminded that if
I was playing in today's game, then I would be
today's athlete, right, so our mindset would be different because
this is these are the rules we played by, the
rules we had back.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
In the day, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
It was basically there were no rules, right right, do
whatever you want to do. But so I'm you know,
being reminded of that. I still say, man, that these
guys can get more out of what they have. You know,
there was a I went to the Raiders' weight room
for the first time, to the facility for the first

(11:54):
time about a year and a half ago, and and
I walk in the weight room, bro, and they have
a thirty yard regulation field in inside the weight room,
inside inside the weight room, so and all, so that
tells you how big the weight room is right there
and all around all around there. Of course you got
the weights and all and stuff, but then you have
all the nutritional stuff.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
Man.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
And so I'm video on I'm video on this, and
under my breath, I say, wow, can you not be great?

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Right? And I didn't.

Speaker 7 (12:24):
It wasn't meant to be, you know, I didn't mean
to put that out on social media like that. But
I put the video out and people called my voice
and the old Tim Brothers calling out the radar.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
It's like, well, I wasn't, but I guess I really.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
Was, because because that's what I don't understand.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Man.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
We had, We didn't have nearly the stuff that they have. Now,
how are you injured? How are you you know, how
do you not take care of your body? You can
literally live in that dog in place. They have seven
am breakfast, at seven pm dinners at the place. Man,
So how are you not taking care of yourself? How
is this not important enough for you too? You know,
make sure you're taken care of.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Well.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
He's a legend at every level and everything he does,
the Hall of Famer, Tim Brown, Heisman, Tropher Winter, everything
that goes along with it, but I'd like to say
my fellow Irishman, Yes, sir, we appreciate.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
You taking the time today. I appreciate best of luck
for time you man.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
Yes, for you.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I appreciate that they told me it was a morning
tea time it was as well. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
That's Tim Brown, the Pro Football Hall of Famer, taking
some time.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I joyed to stay at the James Hardy Pro Football
Hall of Fame invitation.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
What a great player he wants look at it. Just
look at his stats and his numbers throughout his career.
He was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
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Speaker 3 (13:49):
I've got a friend listening who was not really excited
about the shop that I just took at the fact
that these ebears were in New England.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Patriots hats. I mean, there's always one.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I'm just telling you from my experience, and my comment
in return was, look, if you don't like it, good,
all right.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
We are a sports talk radio show.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
We're trying to for the other those of you driving
and listening live on Fox Sports Radio, We're trying to
give you road rage, all right. We were trying to
change your day. Jonas has talked about trying to. If
you haven't got an accident because you're so ticked off
at a sports talk take, that's our fault, then we're
not doing our job.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
If that hasn't happened.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Okay, that is true. Yeah, that is true, man, I mean,
just can't deny that.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, it is a if you if you can create
some sort of a sing alert or some sort of
an issue, you've really done something.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
I mean, by the looks of it, Jonas your your
social feed, geesh, and you got they bring that hate
my way, Like I only get hate from your loyal followers.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Followers. It's like crazy, like.

Speaker 8 (14:50):
You have a loyal following, but your loyal following are
a bunch of people that act like a holds. Like
there's like one or two that are really good dudes,
but the other ones it's like you literally are the
biggest fan of Jonas Knox, but.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
It's like you hate. It's the weirdest thing, man.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I mean, it's a it's a safe place. They know, like,
look their their negativity and their depression is sort of
looked down upon by other people in life. No yeah,
not me.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, feel better about themselves.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Put it on the platt.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
I know you hate me, but it's only because you
hate yourself. So let's get through this together. Yeah, you
know right, that's how you are.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Like, Hey, before you jump off that freeway overpass, hit
send and I'll go ahead and get you famous. That's fine,
there's nothing wrong of that.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Oh boy, got to give them a little bit.

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Speaker 4 (16:00):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I also want to give a a shout out to somebody.
I don't know if they're listening because they were at
the Dodger game last night. But if you guys had
to guess based on information that was handed to me
by Lee to Lap, who would you say that we
all know on this show is an avid bobblehead collector.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
I've collected.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Former member of this show.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
No Berto, that's kind of.

Speaker 8 (16:34):
I mean if I would have said, if I would
have said Berto, I would have got the racist. So
I live in La so I stayed away from anybody
that would be related to Berto.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
You said, you said Bobo though, So it's like halfway racist.

Speaker 9 (16:48):
Yeah, kind of kind of.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
I can get away with that. He's more on my shoe.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Hey, lebar, way to piss off the Philippines, you know,
way to go by?

Speaker 6 (16:58):
What you mean?

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Berto?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Manny Packa is looking for you right now?

Speaker 5 (17:01):
All right?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
So you haven't lee told me that. So Berto's got
I think an entire cabinet he does of bobbleheads.

Speaker 10 (17:11):
Oh yeah, and overflowing out of that cabinet. By the way,
there's his whole entertainment system has got bobbleheads.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Jonas, can you do an impression of Berto talking about
his bobble heads?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
There's always more room hey for you? Heyfo, you get
rid of that, he'll take it.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
So he wrote me for.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
The game how would you how would your boy talk
to him? Though? How how how would your dude that
calls the baseball games. How would he respond to Berto
about his bibbleheads.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
He's all these bobbleheads spoiled backwards. That's able.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
What what what they call it?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's a lable. I don't get the bobblehead thing, man,
I've never understood it.

Speaker 8 (18:04):
I don't fans love them, Yeah they do, they love
them brou I don't get it either, but they love
some bibbleheads man.

Speaker 10 (18:13):
So but by the way, last time I checked in
with Birdo live from the game last night, he was
four tallkiins in and tell you say, it was twenty
dollars and fifty cents for a tall kid. So he's
at least at least eighty bucks in on beer at
his first Dodgers gave.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
It that they get up a couple hours and drive
the kids to school.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
You know that's all good.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
By the way, you know what they did last night.
So I guess in normal circumstances, you can get more
than one bobblehead, like as long as you like. If
you have multiple tickets on your phone that you can scan,
they'll give you a bobblehead for every ticket on your phone.
Last night, they were making people if you had multiple

(18:55):
tickets on your phone. They wouldn't give it to you
all in one shot. They would give you one, and
then you'd have to go back to the end of
the line and then stand in line all over again
to go get multiple bobbleheads. But some people will just
show up. Like my brother and I were at a
game at Wrigley last year and we were waiting for
the game to start, but there was a long rain delay.

(19:16):
There were people that were still going into the stadium
to get the bobblehead that was being given away and
leaving the game. They didn't even yeah, they didn't stay
for the game. They just wanted the bobblehead so that
they could go. Be like those guys at Brady's Golf,
Yeah right, that are trying to sling them on eBay
for a few bucks. You know, it's just they but

(19:37):
apparently people are willing to pay one hundred and seventy
five dollars.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Yeah, it's a question.

Speaker 8 (19:41):
Because I was talking to my old coach the other
day and we were talking. I was telling them about
like some of my stuff that that's in storage. Yeah,
shut up, so so and and and he was like,
why don't you sell it?

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Like it's just in storage, And I was like.

Speaker 8 (19:58):
I don't know, but what do you think, Like I
got a pair of game Warren Kobe Bryant shoes, how
how much do you think those will go for?

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Like in that in that world?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
What do you think are they signed?

Speaker 8 (20:10):
They're signed? I mean I got a Michael Jordan game
Warren shirt. I got a rookie year Lebron James game
Warren shirt, all signed, all all authenticated or whatever like
all there.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Lee, could you look that up like just a comp
because Kobe game worn shoes signed, I don't know, I
got a ten grand that it. I don't know, Like
I'm not much of a collector, so I don't know
how that I.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Would think that it would be.

Speaker 10 (20:47):
Probably closer to fifty is what I'm seeing.

Speaker 8 (20:52):
What was got a pair of Shaquille O'Neil game warns
from Miami the Heat.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
What was the what was the Kobe game?

Speaker 4 (20:59):
What do you know?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
The games that they were from?

Speaker 8 (21:01):
They were all against the Washington Wizards obviously, so but
I would collect them after the game.

Speaker 10 (21:09):
Yeah, if they're game worn, it's gonna be obviously a
lot more if like the cheapest ones. Yeah, Okay, I
found like some Kobe for ten thousand dollars. But they're
not game warn.

Speaker 8 (21:20):
These were game worn, Like, took them off in the
locker room, gave them to the ball boy. The ball
boy throws them in a bag, brings them to me.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Boom.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
I got the whole start in five of the Detroit
Passive Pistons that won the championship. So how much would
that be? You know what I mean? Like you're talking
about Tayshaun Prince Rip Hamilton.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
You have these shoes in your possession.

Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah, and I'm like an avid at one point, I
was like an avid collector.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
How did I not know this?

Speaker 5 (21:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I have anything else I have?

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Well, yeah, but I won't talk about it on air.
I'll talk it to you. I'll talk to you about
it off air, but it's about it there. Oh no,
but the.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Bear is found away by the way. No, so it's
open to the public now, and they've found like a
public space where now they're basically following.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Hey, you know what, don't you admire that that?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I I mean, they they they played the rules back
against him. Now they are in harm's way. I will
admit that they are.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
In an area where someone could easily lace them with
a drive. We'll see if they are.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
Sometimes it's worth the risk, you know, sometimes it's just
worth the risk.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Good for them, you.

Speaker 8 (22:40):
Know Boston Baston's Bostonians anyway.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well I don't see.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
That guy out there, but the rest of them that
were with the Pats fan they took him down. Well,
he might have been the mastermind behind all of this.
Maybe he sacrificed himself so the others.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Could find a way of getting autogress.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, so it sounds like, well, there you go.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Good for them, man, where there's a will, there's a way.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Very true.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Here's the only thing I would say that we may
maybe put a damper on some of the the money
you're trying to get for those items you have, is
there actual evidence of them giving you the item, because
if there's not a picture that goes.

Speaker 8 (23:19):
There, there doesn't have to be evidence they're authenticated Jonas
Like in other words, there's like you know, when you
sign stuff, it has to have like an authentication that
like you get like when we sign we have to
have like what is it like an affidavit or something
like like we have to have something notarized that's that
shows that it was actually signed.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
By us. Now, those game warns I don't have.

Speaker 8 (23:42):
Obviously I don't have authentication, But I mean if it's
coming from my personal collection, you can look at it
and see that it's their signature. I mean it is
what it is.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, But like how would somebody know that that is
actually there because somebody proof read it and said, oh, yeah,
that looks just like it.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
There's professionals that know how to look at signatures and say, yes,
that is Kobe Bryant's signature. Yes, that is Jonas Knox's signature.
That they have like professionals for it. So the ones
that I do not have authenticated that, those are the
ones I got when I was on the sideline. But
I don't need to take a picture to show I had.

(24:21):
Like I have a picture shaking Vince Carter. Vince Carter
came up to me out at the one of the games.
I got his his game warns, and I mean we're
shaking hands. You can see the shoes that he's wearing
in the picture clearly the ones I had.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
You know I have.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Are you thinking about a offloading some of that stuff?

Speaker 5 (24:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (24:39):
Every once in a while, I mean I've been in
California for over ten years. I haven't seen I haven't
seen my memorabilia. Like I had twenty thousand square foot
house that was full of memorabilia over the entire house.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
I have.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
I have Muhammad al Lee signed boxing gloves. Like you know,
I was like a geek because I'm more of a
fan than I am a athlete. So I was like
fanboying out over like auctions and stuff like that where
you could get this these types of items and articles
like crazy stuff, crazy stuff, Like I said, I got
three River Stadium bleacher seats.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
Turf. I got three Rivers radio, three Rivers turf, like with.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
All of the steel curtains signing it, like I got
some crazy memorability.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Now though the three Rivers bleacher seats, those will still
be like like those are going to be the most
accurate thing you have because those were always empty.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Anyways.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
So by the way, bears from one of the fine
gentlemen here with the police force in Boca Raton.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
He is saying that they have been worn.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
So they went to the designated area, they got some autographs,
but they have now entered the confines of the course
and they've been told that they cannot ask for any
more at this point, otherwise they will be removed. Now
it's a touch and go issue because there will be
some kids here probably asking for autographs, So how do
you managing that? And obviously it's a big course, so
I'm not sure the police are going to follow him

(26:04):
around the entire time. But anyway, that is the update
that I just got from the book for its own
police force, as they were listening to the show and
they wanted to make sure that we were providing accurate
information now, just so so they are aware of this.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Brady it does have intimate knowledge of this. At the
Super Bowl New Orleans, I think it was the Wednesday,
I think, yeah, Wednesday, we walked out of Brady a
row and there was a guy holding up a Sports
illustrated that had a cover of Brady and two of
his teammates from Notre.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Dame on it.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Brady signed it and kept walking. The next day, a
woman had the same exact Sports illustrated and handed it
to Brady to sign, and that guy who was there
the day before was seen sitting over crouching in the corner,
so he basically sent her to go get another copy
made so that he could sell multiple copies on eBay,

(27:02):
and I'm willing to bet Lee that those are on
eBay right now.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Gary, Well, here's the thing is, they're they're not going
to sell the out on if they are on eBay
because I just scribble. So I learned this very early
on when eBay first kind of got started.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
When I got into college. You would get people who would.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Come by with a bunch of gear, and finally the
school was like, Hey, they're selling this.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
On eBay and they're trying to stop this.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
But what they would do is they would have little
kids come and bring the stuff to you. So you're
not going to say no to a little kid, right,
But what you do is they just they've kind of
run back to wherever these guys had their bags and
they would take the footballs and helmets and jerseys and
they would just walk right to those guys. So eventually
even that became a contentious issue. So what I've realized
is the easiest way just to get around it is

(27:45):
just scribble.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Because that's not my signature.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Anyone who I've actually signed something for will clearly compare
the two and they'll be like, oh, that's actually not
a signature.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Brady Quinn scribble one.

Speaker 10 (27:57):
Hundred twenty dollars Brady Quinn signed Noted Football Sports Illustrated
scribble one.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
There's two different ones.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
One is my name? Is my name legible on that?

Speaker 10 (28:08):
It's one of them looks legit. The other one is
a little scribbly.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
There you go. So that what is the price of
both of them?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (28:15):
And there's there's actually this is from h I can
see one is from an official signing because they have
a picture of you.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Yeah, and the other one, no, doesn't have that. But
how much is the one that isn't How much is
that one?

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (28:29):
They're also listing it at the same price at one
twenty Oh.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
No, I see what it's that sixty But that one's
not signed.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yeah, that one's not signing. What it's not a signed?
There's an eighty dollars.

Speaker 10 (28:39):
There's one hundred and twenty dollars one.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, who the hell is going to buy that?

Speaker 5 (28:48):
It's not signed? OLDO. I was like, can I get it?

Speaker 10 (28:50):
I get to the These look like different ones than
the ones from uh from super Bowl week.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
No, that's the same one. I'm telling you. Let me
get you one hundred and twenty bucks.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
We're gonna pull it definitely airport.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Go spend that on a couple of cases of beer
and you have a good time. You'll enjoy that much
further in life.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
I just don't understand how they have so much stuff
that they could actually have the memorabilia or the card
available when you get there. When you arrive, It's like, bro,
how do you have cards of me.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
In New Orleans? You don't know that I'm going to
be here?

Speaker 8 (29:36):
Like how many athletes players come through that airport and
you have no idea that is.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
A hundred card collector.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's not my signature.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Looking at that now, first off, I never write the
numerical symbol and that, uh, that's not how I assignment that.
I say forged whatever signature.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
That is good. It's like a guy who's uh like
it's like a guy who he's always got the right
tools somewhere.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
Bro, it is the weirdest thing, like you show. It
could be the most random thing. But if it's as
long as it is, like like if it's NBA, you'll
see it with any like any NBA player that walks by,
they will have a car and they can get to
it very quickly. That you sign like It's like, how
do you have this little ass box? Maybe they research

(30:31):
the flights and know who's on the flights. I don't know,
but I'm like, you don't have that big of a
box where you could have all the players and you
you're like hitting, like, here's LeVar sign these three for me, please,
Like here's the Sports Illustrated signed Like no, Like, I've
always found out to be kind of curious, like how

(30:51):
do they have my ass where it is that I
show up? Like I know it's the Super Bowl or
whatever it may be, but you know, how would you
have me readily available at that moment in time?

Speaker 5 (31:05):
This It's crazy. I don't know. I guess it's like
some TMZ type stuff though.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, like pro wrestlers they'll get approached at the airport
inside the airport a baggage claim and somebody.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
And they know when they're going to be there. Yeah, yeah,
maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Listen, you gotta make you got to make a couple
of bucks, and you know what, if you've got to
forge a signature and sling of Brady Quinn Sports Illustrated
for one hundred and twenty bucks to help pay the rent,
why not you know, I'm with them all authenticated, you know, okay, Yeah,
it is two pros.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
And it's second one was set by the way, is legit?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Sorry, how much is the second one.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
That one is?

Speaker 10 (31:43):
I think that's why the fake one was listed at
that price as well. I think they were trying to
piggyback off.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
The two sinators are completely different.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (31:51):
And the one with the authentic one has the picture
of you signing it at an event.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, the second one you said, yeah, yeah, yea.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
If it's somebody on.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
The standing like not standing like that.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Somebody on a bender is going to buy the buy
the fake one.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
We just chose that. We weren't told to do that
by Sports Illustrated.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah, well, look at your hair.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Maybe the flow bucket man had a little hair coming
out the back. You know, got that call it out
of state.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah, you got that. Beatles look to you though, you.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Know that like a rock bandy some margin I yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
And Travis Thomas is on the other side.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Who are the Cabins that year? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Nice, one hundred and twenty bucks.

Speaker 8 (32:32):
You're the only one with your helmet off. They knew,
they knew that they had to keep your helmet off Morton.
That's right, good Vito man, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
That's right?

Speaker 5 (32:40):
You know you're on air.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
You want to have veto join the conversation.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Lee, Hey, no, you may as well just come over
and say hi.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
You know, you know, yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Your buddy.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Beto just looked at me and shook his head.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
It's like a It's a warm, welcoming voice, though, like
can I get you to just like be my uh.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
My alarm in the mornings. Yeah, and he'd be like, hey, Braddy,
time up.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:17):
Maybe there he.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Is Beato courtly, Hey, what's up boys?

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Good morning? How are you? How you doing?

Speaker 8 (33:25):
How doing?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
I love?

Speaker 4 (33:27):
I just walked through it.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
And then somehow I get Lee.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
He's like, what happened guys talking about? What are you?
What you guys doing?

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Mm hmmm, uh we heard the whole conversation, bro.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, Lee, good morning.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Lee's Mike was on.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh nice, good job Lee. Yeah, wait to go, Loraina,
Let run the boy, jeez love you beats. All right, guys,
have a great day. All right, Audios everybody, audios. There
he is the great Beato who puts together, by the way,
all the imaging with Ricky so all the intro songs.
If we sound pretty on the air, it's because of

(34:06):
those guys, has nothing to do with what we do.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
So uh, there's that.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
So a quick update here and we will keep you
posted on any other fraudulent listings on eBay starring LeVar
or Brady throughout the course of the show. It is
two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio, Rady, Gwyn Jonas Knoxy. Why is that ten dollars?

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Because that's passive aggressive?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Well's that passive aggressive.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
Because in your mind you were hope, you were wishing
that you could be that person that had that, and
you don't.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I couldn't.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
I could see. Now that's more aggressive. I like that.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, I don't see. Can I make a request? I
know it's April and now in the year, so a
little late, and make this request. Can we start f
eighting and creating a compilation of all the hot mics
get caught on I just played at the end of
the year.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah, like we can kind of our pick our favorite.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
All right, good, so that's the three Yeah, yeah, Well
we'll start this weekend.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, and we'll keep track of this moving forward.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
There we go. Well, Calvin Johnson will be high up
there after yesterday.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
We actually keep that one silly? Is that possible?

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Yeah? Grabbing it now?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, I mean, at least Tim Brown had a little
bit of class, you know.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
A little bit of what do you mean now? A
little bit? So Calvin didn't cursing on the air.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
It's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
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Speaker 2 (35:40):
So we've obviously got some changes that are popping up
in the NFL next season. Some of this stuff has
been tabled until May.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
One.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Thing we are going to get as far as a
different looking NFL next year. And I'm still trying to
figure out why this was even thought to do in
the first place. Why did the NFL decide that over
time rules, we're going to be different in the regular
season from the postseason.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Well, the initial the initial proposal when they made changes
was because it was about players safety. So they didn't
want to prolong the game because they wanted to limit
the amount of hits that players were taking and the
wear and tear in their bodies. Now, what's interesting about
it is we've made subtle adjustments where it's getting closer
to what.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
It is in the playoffs. I just I mean, does
anyone want to see a tie in the regular season?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Like, does anyone even want to see a team that
gets into overtime and it's playing for a tie instead
of a loss because it may benefit them? Like this
is America? Like were we on winning and lose? Where
we build on ties? Like last time I checked, that's
never been the case ever in the history of this country.
I find it incredibly Unamerican to have an overtime where

(36:51):
we don't have a winner and a loser.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Is that what this is all about?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
If you could play with that sort of patriotic music,
that would have been fantastic right now?

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Efforting Yeah, efforting.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Overtime?

Speaker 9 (37:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Am I wrong something? I'm wrong?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
But this country wasn't all about winning and losing. I mean,
at what point in World War One or World War
Two did we say we're good.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Let's just push for a tie? All right?

Speaker 3 (37:24):
At no point ever in the history the Revolutionary War
were we pushing for a tie in that one.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
No chance.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
There's a reason why things got kicked off with the
Boston Tea Party. This country was built on winning and losing.
You did or you didn't, the haves the have nots, Like,
let's make it fully like the overtime in the playoffs,
We're gonna have a winner or loser. It doesn't matter
how long it takes us to figure that out.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
That's what we want. That's what we want in this country.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Day.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Hey, you got my boat, you got my voat, and
you know what if it is tied at the end
of overtime bowl in the ring, winner take all riversa,
let's do it all the way here, let's make this happen. Yeah,
I don't uh, I don't understand the logic behind it.

(38:21):
The whole player say and the whole player safety thing
is such a convenient excuse for why they implement certain
things like let's be on, If it was really all
about player safety, the game probably wouldn't have been invented. Okay,
Like guys were running around with no face masks on
early on, like they were.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Toast like stab each other to you when it first started.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, like come on, there are some dirty things that
were that were going on when the game first started.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
So we've come a long way.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
It's been a minute.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
There was a high school out here. God, I want
to forget who it was, but they were. They got
busted because they were taking the buckles on the helmets
and filing them into a point. So where when you
made a tackle or you are they you know, lowered
their helmet.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Yeah, you were.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
You were basically shiving. Yeah, you were shiving people.

Speaker 8 (39:13):
Like so it's hey, that material is hard too, so
if it is coming off it does have that like
you know, it could cut skin.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I feel like we had a couple of teams that
used to do that back in high school. That's kind
of because you have these cuts on your like forearms
and whatnot. When you brush up against it and you're like,
how's this happening. It's a good old day, and you
come to realize, Okay, you find on the off.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Season this is what they were doing.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's the good old days.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
That's paid attention to anything like that. That's kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
The rule changes, Well, we want to acknowledge to this
offseason that that have been solidified.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, so the other one is going to be Obviously,
we mentioned the overtime rule. The playoff seating. That one
they're still trying to sort through. That's another one is
going to be tabled as well.

Speaker 8 (40:02):
Also, uh soon, same with the touchbush.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
That's that one's going to be picked up. I don't
like Rich McKay comes out and he talks about the
Lions proposal on this one, and he just it's basically, well,
you know, we we've kind of kicked around the idea
of well, we don't want to diminish division division winning
the division. Uh so maybe we have it to where

(40:30):
you only give the wild card team the home game
and the playoffs if the team that won the division
has a five hundred record or below. And it's like,
I know you want to protect and reward division winners.
Isn't that what a playoff spot is? Like, you're automatically
in the playoffs after that. If your record is worse
than the team that you're scheduled to play, you should

(40:51):
not be hosting a game. I'm sorry to owners that
want that that home game money in the playoffs, tough balls,
Like you had a worse record than the team that
you were going against, you should not be hosting a
playoff game. If like what we saw this past year
when we had three teams hosting playoff games and they
shouldn't have been.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Can we get a round of applause? This has been
my take on this the whole time. We're not looking
at the entire body of work throughout the course of
the season. Spare mere arguments about, you know, the competition
or the scheduling. I mean that can vary depending on division,
depending on year. Again, you would go back and look
at the Minnesota Vikings what they were able to do

(41:29):
last year, and it's like, in two weeks time, they
go from potentially being the number one overall seed division
winners to then having to go on the road and
play in the first round of the playoffs after winning
what fourteen games whatever? It was like it kind of
takes away from everything that you were able to earn
just because you weren't able to beat a team that
went would Detroit go fifteen to two? Yeah, I mean

(41:52):
it's ridiculous when you think about how hard that is
to do in the NFL, who win that many games,
especially as we continue to EXPA and the regular season.
I don't understand how you can't find the logic to it.
You're just you're being selfish for them trying to prioritize
the division when really it should just be an automatic
berth into the playoffs and that should be reward enough for.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
What you've done.

Speaker 8 (42:14):
Yeah, I feel like it's direct that's directed at me,
because I am that selfish one that thinks it is
about the divisions, like when your division, sorry, when your division.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I didn't know George Mirason grew his hair out.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
I know it, I know it. That is very very interesting,
you know, very interesting.

Speaker 11 (42:35):
Seven You guys have problems, man, seven footers in the house.

Speaker 12 (42:48):
I see you guys got to play some American music
to that. Let's talk about that, all right, listen up.
We don't play for four foot nunder Oh my god,
we don't play for normal sizes, normal normal lane. No,

(43:12):
this is America, and we like it big. They say
it's bigger in Texas. For a reason, they say it's big.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
I don't know. I don't know what comes, but I
will say tall long.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
More.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
As Americans, we want more.

Speaker 9 (43:42):
Well, yes we can.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
You know what's great about the NFL, though, is that
while we're having these tush push overtime rule, uh playoff
seating discussions, like some of this stuff the NFL is like,
you know what, this has generated a lot of conversation.
Why don't we go ahead and start this whole thing
back up in May?

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Let it go.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, we'll go ahead and create more storylines in May
when we talk about this again
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