April 11, 2025 • 48 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a coupled Joe
with Lamar airings and rating Wind and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Happy Friday to you and yours on this glorious April morning.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Good morning everyone.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Yeah, how we hell yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We are rocketed rolling here Onday Friday morning. You know,
it does feel like springtimes in the air. It feels
like the birds are chirping.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Oh yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Feels like the the azaleas are bright, oh god and plentiful.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Hey, is that someone peeing over there in that river?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You gotta go, You gotta go, Yeah, I tell you.
And you know, I don't want to hear any shaming
from women out there, just because we have a built
in advantage, all right.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I don't want to hear anything. When you got to go,
you got.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
To go to me.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
The best part about it is I believe he's in
his Arizona State golfer so he's kind of representing the
school quite well, whipping it out there.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Why is that the Is that the Pete Prisco method
as well?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Too?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Well?
Speaker 6 (01:11):
I was gonna say, like, because Pete Prisco comes on
and that's his alma model, we might as well just
go and take some take some shots.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
Also, that player, he's an amateur. How do he pronounce
his last name Blestra something like that?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
All right, the trend of.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
The hat he's wearing, which also got a lot of flak,
is the stupidest thing in the world, all right. I
don't know who started this. I don't know if it
was an Imperial Hats or who did this. It's the
hat that I actually someone told me Dallas the Cowboys did.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
It's the hat where it's upside down.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Let me let me just tell you guys something.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Two years from now, you're gonna look back at that
hat sting on a shelf and go, that was the
stupidest thing I've ever bought. Why the hell would you
buy a hat with a reading upside down? What is
the point of that? It's the stupidest hat I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
LaVar, LaVar.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
If somebody was rocking a stick city hat upside down,
it's insulting. That's like horns down. It's insulting. It's disrespectful.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
What's the point.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Somebody tell me the point of the hat, Like, it's
not like it's like, oh, you could wear backwards, to
wear a different way.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
It's the stupidest hat there is. I know it sounds
ridiculous to go off on something like this.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It is so dumb, but so dumb, I can't find
the logic, so I'm going to stare clear of it.
I'll choose a different hill to put my ten toes
down and stand on it with you today. This one
ain't it. I'm with you. I can't because I can't
find the logic in it. Mike. I recall like shirts
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and hats that had the spelling backwards because if you
looked in the mirror, it would fix it, right. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
The difference is it's just upside down. You can't look
at the mirror. Doesn't change anything.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That doesn't change anything.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
That's what I'm saying. It's the stupidest hat there is.
I'd rather wear a big bucket cowboy hat.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Hey, I wear big bucket cowboy hats. Bro.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
That's that's something about the golf course. I'm saying, go
ahead and wear the golf course. I'd rather you wear.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That than are you allowed to wear I know you
can wear like certain type of like what type of
fabric hats like that. That are almost like a Derby.
But are you allowed to wear like a Derby or
a cowboy hat on the golf course. I'd probably be
hard to hit, right, be hard to swing probably.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
With the cowboy hat the derby. I mean, I don't
see dudes wearing hats.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I've seen guys with like the like the kind of
the top of their gadget type of hat, or you
know what I mean, like.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
A smaller hat, the pain Stewart type hat.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
It's almost like the hooligan hat from you.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Know, you get what I'm saying though, right, Yeah, it's
like one of those detective hats, but it's just not
Didn't Arnie Palmer wear one too? I think he wore
one at times.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Doesn't Bruce Arims wear one? Is this a Caangle hat?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes? Cangle? That's a Cagle like Yeah, I know they
wear those, but there was a there's still one more
like a detective type of hat that I've seen guys wear,
like I know about apple Jack, you know type deals
on the golf course, but like, didn't like Bagger Vance
wear like an apple Jack or something like that. Is
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that even a name? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I'm not sure, I do know this that.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Will Smith in a in a movie and I think
it's golf is golf? All right?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, So Dak Prescott wore the upside down Dallas hat.
I saw that. Then I think I saw Baker Mayfield
wearing it makes makes all.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, My home says a't wear. For some reading, it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Seems to make a little bit more sense.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Now, you under saying like you can.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Look back, like look back at something you wore back
when you were younger. Oh God, and you're like, oh
that was.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
A bad look. You know that? Why do we do that?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
This hat will be that for everyone out there who's
going to buy that hat and wear that hat? And
something tells me, By the way, Berto, not taking shots here,
I'm just saying you probably have one of those hats
I have. I have a sense, Berto, you might be
wearing that hat. Throw it away?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Is there the chance? Is there the chance that the
reasoning behind it is to get around maybe a trademark
infringement or something to that effect. I mean, if it's
upside down and it's not readable or considered to be readable,
then would you like if it where the right side
up and you used la.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
By my imagination, would take me to this in a
court of law.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
A judge would not uphold that for you, like you
would lose that battle.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Here's the other thing too, like the one Dak Prescott
would wear just says Dallas upside down. Man, you go
to any airport in Dallas and they've got Dallas merchandise.
So there's no corner on the market when it comes
to that, Like you can't trademark the city name Dallas.
He just doesn't because it's like a fashion trend and
it sucks.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I'm sure somebody owns Dallas, bro, I'm telling you, and
then probably is Dallas that owns it, Like somebody owns
the trademark of Dallas. I would assume I don't know,
but I would assume I don't know, but I asume, yeah,
well I don't know. I mean to be honest, I
(06:52):
don't even know why I got wrapped into this conversation.
I was gonna stare clear, Now I've got myself into.
It's okay.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Dallas is a geographic name. Trademarks for geogra geographic terms
or are tricky, you can't do it. Yeah, So nobody
can own Dallas as an outright trademark.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, it's a bit ridiculous, but well there you go,
you know, so you don't have to put it upside down. Guys. Yeah,
and although you might be sending a message if you
got Dallas on a hat, I mean, which way is up?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
You know? I'm not gonna lie, I know yet. I
walked into a.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Pro shop had a at a country club yesterday and
the had a hat like that, and this young kid
was sitting there and I just go, God, this hat's
just stupid. I was like, you see that kid wearing
the Masters. He's like yeah, He's like, I don't think
they look that bad. And I go, oh you don't.
I go, I go just give it two years. I go,
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see if you don't look back at that and go
that was dumb hat. While I buy that, he just
looks at me. He's like, I think if you space
out the letters more. I go, yeah, it doesn't matter.
It's just stupid hat.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I go, what is it? What does it even mean?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Like?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Why is it upside down? He's kept looking at me.
I go, just get rid of it if you've got one.
That's all I'm saying to you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Brady Quinton just told me my hat sucks. Excuse me, sir, but.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I'm giving him advice.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I'm telling him, like, bro, we've been there, like Jinko jeans, Yeah,
I had to look stupid, no idea why to wear
a wide jean.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
It was almost like a bell bottom face, Like why was.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That ever come? They're a big style of that, not
that style of pants that where they like cover your
doc mad Yeah, like way cover your doctor, like cover
your whole.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Weird, like stupid and every stupid then and I did it,
and it's stupid.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Every middle every middle schooler looks like Gwen Stefani from
back in the nineties, like they are weather same, the
same outfits, baggy jeans, crop like which is it's.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Weird facular It depends which one you know, tang.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, the new one or the old one? The yeah
wes Pa Well even then she had like it was
like x Tina.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
That one was like oh she was kind of you
know risketch.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I just feel like the world came out and was like,
you know what, I'm going to embrace my curves. I'm
going to I want everybody to know I'm here. And
then leggings came back in the world changed forever. And
that's a world that I don't want to change. It's
a it's a it's a place in time that I
wish just would stay the same. And then all of
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a sudden, here comes a whole new different way and attitude.
And now it's like, I want to just embrace my
this and I want to wear these big ass baggy
bottom jeans now and like this, this, this relaxed look,
I don't want to relax. Look for you people, I'm
just being honest, don't go if you're going to go relaxed,
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find the best pair of leggings to be relaxed. And
y'all said a tone, don't go switching it up now,
that's all I'll say.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
It was like, and there was a couple of days
ago they go, can we not implement tariffs on people
who were leggings?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
They shouldn't, Well, a bad.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Leggings. Give everybody a chance, though, Man, it gives you
a chance. I mean some of these cats out here,
you know, they wear certain things and they don't have
a chance at all. Give you some type of a chance.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
No, it exposes others too, though.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
That's the thing is, we get it. But if you're
trying to flaunt something, it also can expose some stuff
there too.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I mean there are people out here who like that
exposed stuff that are in the leggings. I mean there's
a different demographic of ofkers of leggings. That's all.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Last time, you guys saw a camel.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
You know, I don't know that I've ever seen a camel.
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I think somebody brought one of the yoga studio next door. Dang,
So where are you gonna park that thing?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Just say, look at those knuckles.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
What do you think is bigger knuckles?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Johnson?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Cable or minus moose is bigger?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Dang?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Yes, okay, they're both pretty big.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, they're pretty big.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Show me your knuckles?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Johnson?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Well, hey, how can we play that?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Can we play the Bastards music? Can we do this right?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
The Master's music. I'm so glad Mark is in and
didn't play it.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I'm jesus here we go, Yeah, next time, and to
the beree the first he hit AUGUSTA. We've got a
battle between a Campbell and.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I'm not sure who's gonna win.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Hey, Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Both wearing yoga pants. You know normally it's a normally
it's a guessing game at this point, but we know
a club's e bringing.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
What Justin rose as a Campbell and a moose break
at the same time.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Here at the masters.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Lee Lee, where do we stand on our our names
out of the hat? Because I feel like everybody is
is doing well minus you.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Well, some better than others, and I'm I'm middle of
the pack here. Now, hold on, I might have had
the worst day, but I'm not don't have a score yet. Scotti,
Scheffler and Ludwig Auberg both four under. That would be
of course you, Jonas and LeVar off tops.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Now.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
I was hoping my Rory McElroy would also be four under,
but those last four holes didn't quite do him any favors.
He's now even after shooting plus four on those And
then what do we We got speed at one under?
That's you Brady and John Rahm. Three under for Lorena.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Okay, so we're all in contention.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Off Lorena gets that Friday, doesn't she Dang? I need
her program, Damn shoot program Homie.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
HOI uh m hmm, what is that the TV version
of that line? I had no idea though I thought
he said something out.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Shoe shoe pro, shoe program, program, shoo shoe program, and
we'd I'm not sure what what did he say?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't know, nolah blah, you look that up.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I'm do right now.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, well listen, uh you know it is uh, it
is Augusta, it is the Masters, and nobody's broken it
down like we have.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I feel like we.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Really went after the music.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Jeez, I can I ask this question though, Like this
is actually like a legitimate question.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Oh yeah, if you guys.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Were in like a four day tournament, would would you
guys rather be like in Justin Rose's position, where like
people like Jonas if you have a you know, mediocre
day or bad day Friday.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Be like, oh he choked, look at that guy, look
at him over they choked.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
But it's really like he played out of his mind yesterday.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
But I guess the questions would you rather be leading
out the gate round one after the first day, knowing
you have three more days to play, or would you
rather be like in contention but like.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Lurking, like there he is behind the bush, Leva Arrington's lurking.
You're ready to pounce, Like which position would you.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Rather look at that, and I wouldn't want to lead,
Like leave me in the group that's sitting at four
under or even a three under, like like put me
where Bryson d. Chambeau is, Like, just let me sit
with him, and then I'll just figure it out and
and everybody will come back to the pack and I
can sort of make a climb throughout the course of
the weekend. But yeah, if he starts off seven under
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and then he comes out and you know, has a
three under day, which is still a good day at Augusta,
that's not four shots worse than he was the previous
day and now.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
But he's still going to probably be a hit. It up,
but he's still gonna probably be a hit maybe maybe not.
I'd rather have the cushion. I mean, I get it.
It's always a maybe maybe not. I'd rather be a hit, Okay,
I'd rather be a hit. Like I could say I
was ahead, I'd rather be ahead. I'd rather have a lead.
If you're going to eat into my lead, I'd rather
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you eat into my lead rather than me get further
away from the lead. I just i'd rather be I
always want to be in the lead. Now, if there's
a few things that maybe that might not be the
you know, if you're in staggered stances and track, like
if it's the two hundred meters or something like that
and you're staggered, I get it depending on where you are.
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But if I'm the first one, like if I'm the
furthest one, now hold on.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Can ask a question about that? How far until you
hit even when you do the staggered starts? Does it
depend on the race?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Does?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It does? I mean I would say you're probably gonna
if you're really fast, you'll pull even earlier. But you
you should be pulling even coming out of that that
ben like coming into the home stretch of a two
hundred meters you should be even. You should be even
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so once you want to know, I'm stretch.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Of But I guess what I'm asking is you know
how they're staggered at some point? It's either a distance
where they all run in the same lane, right correct,
they can all take the inside lane, or they they
they stay in their lane for like a sprint.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Is that more like indoors? That why they do that too?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I mean it's it creates the same space, like like
if it's two hundred meters based on the dimensions of
the track. They that's how you know, that's how they
line you up like four hundred meters or like eight hundred.
I believe they all like merge into the same lane,
right because it doesn't matter at that point. But in
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a sprint, like in a true sprint two hundred two hundred,
where you're staggered, you stay in your lane, so you're
gonna want to eat up the gap you know, from
being you know behind, like if you're in lane one,
Lane one is the furthest behind, I believe, and then
laying like the further up you go in numbers, the
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farther away it gets, like the closer to the finish line.
It is. If anybody understood what I just said, But
coming out of that that that ben going down one
hundred meters, you want to have ate up that staggered start,
is what I'd say. So I get if you're not
leading going into that final one hundred, and they talk
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about the kick that you need to be able to
win it. But I would want to be in the
lead even if I was running the two hundred meters.
If I'm the one that's ahead when the when the
gun sounds, I still want to maintain my lead the
rest of the way, like that's what I would be
trying for. Okay, But some people pace themselves and they
wait and they let somebody run themselves out, and they
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might go out too fast. That happens in the four
hundred a lot. You'll go out too fast and you'll
you'll die out and you don't have that kick at
the end, and you'll see people run by you.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Did these staggered lanes have anything to do with the
terrible accident that happened when the woman was wrongfully accused
of assaulting the other runner with her baton, which was
clearly an accident, like she just kind of lost her balance, and.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So that right there. First of all, you have to
make sure that the young lady who accidentally hit that
other young lady upside the head with that metal object
or steel object, whatever it was metal, You have to
understand that her mental health was impeded and it was
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altered by that young lady running by her so closely
in that lane. Now they were merged into the same lanes,
so they were running behind each other, running beside one another,
and her mental health got into the situation, and she
tried to swipe the mental health attack away. Yeah, and
(19:57):
it just happened to be in the form of a
person and and their head and that's that's what was
what was going on. I buy it Shoe program. Whatever
happened with that anyway.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I just I felt bad for it because I felt
like she was being attacked.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Uh. Well, she said that her family everybody stands with her,
you know, they stand with her.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, well, ten toes down that stand with her.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
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Speaker 4 (20:30):
So we are gonna have the usuals coming up.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Later on, we will have another edition of In case
you missed it, We've got Lee's leftovers, all of them.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'm so mad that quote. I thought it was homie,
to be honest, it was not homie. It was no.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It was that.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
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Speaker 2 (21:01):
So we mentioned TJ. Watts looking for a new deal.
Micah Parsons is looking to get paid. A lot of
people are out there are looking to get paid. Well,
you know who did get paid the NFL. Via Ben
Fisher of Sports Business Journal, the total league revenue surpassed
twenty three billion in the most recent fiscal year. Teams
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will receive a four hundred and sixteen million dollar distribution
from their shared TV sponsorship and licensing revenue. It has
jumped almost nine percent over last year's figure of three
hundred and eighty two million dollars, So congratulations to all involved.
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Hopefully we'll get a cut of that considering you know,
we've done a lot to promote and cover the NFL,
but nonetheless that league is thriving now.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It's crazy to me, and I always say this when
people side with NFL owners as opposed to players. These
organizations print money. We've talked about how countless times you
can be a bad owner and you'll still make money.
I mean, the real window we have into how much
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exactly they're making because each team gets four and sixty million.
But take the Green Bay Packers for example, in twenty
twenty four, they generated six hundred and fifty four million
in revenue, Okay, revenue ninety eight almost one hundred million
of that end up being a net income the gain
and then sixty over sixty million was their profit. And
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that is a organization that's in a small market, and
that was last year. So if you actually look at
last year's payout from the TV media rights, I believe
they were distributed three hundred eighty two million, So technically
two hundred and seventy two million of just Green Bay's revenue,
right a smaller market are coming from other ventures. Imagine
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any of the teams in New York, Imagine Dallas, imagine
La imagine some of these other bigger market teams Chicago.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
I mean, they have to be well north of that.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
And if you're looking at how much the owners are
making right four and sixteen just from the TV, again,
just from the TV, what they generated revenue was the
salary cap is what sixty percent.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Of that.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
For the entire team that year? I mean, is it's
growing at a.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Pace meaning what the distribution media rightes are that it's
far surpassing where the players are in regards to the
salary cap.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Like that that ratio is going to be off at
some point in.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
The future, especially as Roger Gudeo keeps pushing the lead
to get the twenty five billion by twenty twenty seven.
You add in that eighteenth game. They keep going the
way they're going, it's it's going to get to that number.
It is just ridiculous how successful the NFL is.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
All right, My first question is now not as a player,
but more of a serial entrepreneur. If you can grow
your business and your brand, and a lot of people
would argue, you know, people will argue that it's the
brand that carries the weight of commanding those types of
(24:28):
dollars versus maybe in different you know, leagues associations where
it's more the superstars that carry you know, the popularity
and the interest in the sport. Is it is it
crazy to think that you may hit a bubble with
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the ownership in terms of what they're willing to pay out.
Will it always be based upon a percentage in your
estimation or does it ever get to a point where
it's like, yeah, we're not paying you any more than
what we're paying you and for what it's worth, maybe
some of that money starts going to some of the
other players and not just the three or four marquee
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players that are on a team. I mean, is there
any chance that the thought process of how the money
is distributed changes at some point if you're an owner
in this situation with business booming the way it.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Is now, I don't think it will.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I mean personal going to always have to adjust and evolve,
like the percentages always have to move with how much
is being generated.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Yeah, I mean it should theoretically, that's the fair way
to do it. That's where if you're the players union,
you would think that the compensation players are getting should
be equal to what the owners are getting.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I mean, that's what you that's what you'd think.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Now again, there's all sorts of accounting tricks and things
you can do to you know, make actually more pocket
more than what it shows. But think about this. The
NFL is generating over twenty three billion dollars a year
right now, twenty five Do you know that's more than
like sixty countries GDP, like Afghanistan, Aruba, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Botswana, actually,
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for that matter, pretty much every single country in Africa, Fiji.
You can go on through the different like Liberia. I
mean you could technically throw in Syria and Yemen, even
though some that's not exactly complete data because their economies
are taking with the conflict going on.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I mean Saint.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Lucia, like all these, I mean over sixty countries. It's
bigger than their GDP just the NFL alone a year,
and what they're able to generate in revenue, it is
ridiculous if you are an owner, isn't it the if
it's not broke, don't fix it mentality?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Like if you're an owner, like why would you change
the way you are paying these players?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Just keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
And if we can get that eighteenth game, it's just
going to add more revenue. Like I would look at
it and just say, hey, guys, this is working. Let's
continue to build on it, Let's continue to build on
our relationships when it comes to gambling, and let's just
let's just not screw this whole thing up and figure
out a way that we can continue on this path
and this trajectory. Because I don't think anybody expected this,
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especially like coming out of COVID, there was a thought like, man,
how are things going to look? How are things going
to change? Afterwards, I think people just started to have
more of an appreciation for it, and once it came back.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
It was like, Yeah, let's just roll, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Keep going. They switch in and out so quickly in football.
I don't know if people realize how quickly players switch
in and switch out because we're so accustomed to playing
attention to the marquee players. But they switch in and
they switch out so so quickly, and new stars are
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born in essence, really in a lot of situations maybe overnight.
You find stars in so many different ways in the
game of football. It isn't always a pronounced way of
finding that next superstar. Chances are the star of this
year's draft might not even be talked about in detail
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and in depth, like that's how it works. So I
just wonder, like again, not trying to like kind of
move the goalposts for the players or anything like that,
because they are certainly deserving of what it is that
they get. But I just think that if you're looking
at it from the league perspective, I think the NFL
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has done as good a job, if not the best, job,
of making sure that the brand is always upfront and
it's stronger than what the individual rules that are connected
to it. You know, in terms of their value. As
big a player as Patrick Mahomes is, they will still
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continue to thrive. Once Patrick Mahomes is not a Kansas
City Chief. We've seen it happen a ton of times now. Granted,
they may not continue to win at the clip that
they've won at, and that might, you know, question the value,
But I don't think the value changes so much so drastically.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It doesn't stop.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
The show doesn't stop if one of these guys aren't
playing anymore. I just I just wonder at what point
where you're generating you're generating business off of as you
mentioned Q, you're generating money off of other aspects of
what you're doing business wise, it's not just the game.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
And so once you get into all of.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Those those aspects of it, how do you continue to
figure out what that percentage is that you're going to
pay to your employees. Because to me, I'm trying to
drive up my revenue and keep my costs and my
hard costs, I'm trying to keep that down. I'm almost
on some Anthony Edwards type stuff, like if you're one
of my best players, if you're a Patrick Mahomes. I'll
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do a deal like what they did, give you a
ten year deal guarantee or you know, all this money
guaranteed and stuff like that. I'll do that with those guys.
So now I don't have to revisit this like we
talked about with TJ. Water with Miles Garrett. I don't
want to have to keep revisiting doing contracts. So I'm
gonna give you a I'm gonna give you a fIF
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the life of your your career will most likely be
twelve thirteen years. I'm gonna give you a twelve thirteen
year contract. Patrick Mahomes. Don't come back and ask me
for nothing else. Don't come back, don't come renegotiate. We'll
do some some shifting and some moving like you're the
bank of our team and all that stuff. That's cool,
but don't come back to me asking me for no
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bigger paycheck I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give it
to you all right now, take this money, make it
right now.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
It isn't I mean you have to say, though, that
contract then has to factor in the growth of what's
going to happen in the company and that amount of time.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Sure, I mean I could try to throw it in,
but what if it outperforms what I factored?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
You know what, what if what? But you're making the
case for TJ.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Watt right now, as Jonas kind of laid out, that
jumped dramatically in the past few years. So now he's
in a position where he has a guy who he
battles with for defensive Player of the Year, and you
could make the case he's the most important player of
the entire team in Pittsburgh, and yet he's making half
of what Miles Garret would make this year.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I think that's why you like. It comes down to
making decisions, right, Like if somebody offers you X amount
of dollars for X amount of time, whether the forecast
turns out to be accurate or not, as as you
move forward, if it outperforms it by a ton or
if it doesn't. At the end of the day, you
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got your guaranteed contract. Like, whatever it is, your baseline
is that's your baseline. So while while I will sit
there and say, yeah, you can look at it from
the comparison standpoint of this guy's contract came up at
a time where the money went up, the value went up,
and so he's asking for more money. But you're making
a choice when you when you do that contract. Every
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single time we do a contract.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
You're making you know this is this is interesting so so,
But that means you're basically saying they should never sign
a twelve year contract then, right, I mean you're taking it,
that's what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, look at it like this, right, if I know
I'm guaranteeing myself this throughout the duration of time that
I'm going to be in the league that some people
may like that security and and like that understanding of
where their cash is coming from and how much it is,
and how I can tax it and where I can
put it and how I can invest. Verse is I'm
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gonna do a two year I'm gonna do a four
year deal, five year deal, six year deal, but I
know that it's going to come up in three years
to four years. I may want to do it. It's
a choice, that's I mean, that's why I understand that.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
But I think both sides have an understanding for like
the Patrick Mahomes deal, that they're going to redo this deal.
He's gonna get compensated more. They're not going to let
him fall. So far behind that he gets disgruddled and
he's saying, I'm the best player in the league, I'm
probably going to be for the rest of my career,
and yet I'm not being compensated like that, right, Like,
that's a recipe for a disaster.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
So let me pose it this way. So let's not
pose a long term deal.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Let's just say that for example, because to your point,
like you're saying, if you're under a contract, then you
know you shouldn't, like the player in this case, should.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Have the chance to revisit it.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Well, what if you're presented with a better opportunity, like
let's just say, using us hypothetically, like a new time
slot opens up and they come to you and say, well, yeah,
we want you to go this new time slot and
it's gonna be a bigger platform also their stuff. But
you're not gonna actually make any more additional money. You're
just gonna work this contract out in the meantime.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, what about that bar?
Speaker 5 (34:14):
What about that again?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I think it still comes down to I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
So you're just you're gonna work. You know, you're just
gonna work out the contract that you signed.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You have decisions that you have to make ultimate Okay,
all right, now, granted, since you pose it that way,
it's funny to bring that up. It's funny you bring
it up. I mean, if that were to be the opportunity,
I just need to understand what are all of the
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opportunities connected to making this move right?
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Like this way, Like the person who was there, you know,
before you, is probably making more. They're compensated more for
all those things and all that. So theoretically, I mean,
you should want to renegotiate and want to actually you
get compensated more and do all that. But like what
you're saying is like they should just you know, they
sign a contract, right, Like you should just keep making
what you're making.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Right, I would say there's a tat bit of a
difference in the sense. And this is the reason why
I would say there's a tad bit of a difference
in the comparisons. Is that one is you're taking one
and you're moving You're moving a commodity, you're moving assets
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into a different it's a totally different space.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Oh, totally different.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Okay, So let me give you that it's totally different. Yeah,
let me give you the totally different comparison. That's not
totally different. So let's say you're a backup guy gets
hurt like Sam Darnold, goes in and plays the season,
plays fantastic. So I if he was under a three
year deal, he just gots to play for backup money
the next two years.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
If he becomes the starter I think you have. I
think there are.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Theoretically that's that new time slaw your title. He becomes
a starter. Right, that's a great point.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Oh so, so the people are backups as they are.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
What I'm saying that that's the example that I'm referring
to in this case for like a player, Well.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
That's an edit. That's an edit, pete, because that's that's
news to me. If they're backups right now now if
they are not saying they are backups, because that makes
me a little upset.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Now, that hurts my feelings a little bit.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
If we're talking speaking.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Here's how I put it, LeVar, I feel like you're
you're putting your box yourself into a corner with this.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Maybe things should just be a little more fluid, you know.
It's it's okay, like it sounds like you don't like,
you don't like the contract negotiation thing.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
A Q.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I'm gonna shut up and let y'all take this the
rest of this segment, because now that you've put it
in those terms, I'm just I'm gonna stay away from
this conversation because I didn't learned about backups now becoming
starters and starters getting paid more money. Which you're right,
Starters should always make more money than backups. You are
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one hundred percent right. So, by the way, if that's
the case, then you should always be able to get
more out of the scenario if you go from being
a backup on the bench to being a starter in
the game.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
You know, one the backup mixes in, you know, on
the bench say they ain't making money.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I'm just saying they ain't the starter.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You know what's wild if you go back ten years
so the twenty fifteen season, damn, the highest salary annually
that year in the NFL was Aaron Rodgers at twenty
two million dollars. Rock Party's trying to get sixty right now.
In a decade, these salaries for Dak Prescott's already getting
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sixty have jumped three times what they were at ten
years ago.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
The NFL just keep doing what you're doing, man, just
keep doing it, you know, just.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Don't Butcher, it's a good problem to haven't don't drive
it through the iceberg.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And that's probably why people are letting that, Like it's
the right time to let some of the equity of
your team go, right, some of the ownership with your team.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
If you believe in iceberg is what took down the Titanic.
You know, there are this conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Hey, that's one of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, I mean that one.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Come on, man, was it? Who was it? JP? Morgan?
Who was it that didn't get on the boat?
Speaker 6 (38:19):
And all the other the financiers, although the bank owners
got on.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, and then if you look at the actual like
there's like an ID plate of the Titanic, it didn't
match up to the actual one. And the one they
sent out on the water was like the rickety one
that that had issues.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I get there.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I guess there was another one. So yeah, it's not
exactly the way it was presented to us, which is
weird because it normally always is, you know, as we
found out. So yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Let's go to break well, I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Listen, I'm I have to go cry some tears and
wipe my face and regather myself and recenter myself so
that we can you know.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Hey, I got just show got something for you though.
Are check this out?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Mm hmm?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Come on far.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, buddy, were timing, Yeah talks. This is not a
song for bench warmers.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
No, on the bitch.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'm on the bitch.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I'm on the bitch.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I want sleep. I want sleep. I want sleep. I
want sleep. Can I get some sleep?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Far?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Can I get some sleep? Can I get some sleep?
Get some sleep? Wake up? Look at my eyes, Look
at my eyes. Look at my eyes. They look like
they're okay, okay, okay, Mark, Okay, you got me.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it for Eddie.
Friday night is a football Friday, Football Friday.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Can I get some sleep?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Going into Friday? Can I get some sleep?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Come on?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Can I get some sleep?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Bet get your back up right here.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
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Speaker 2 (40:07):
We've also got a little bit of breaking news here.
I don't know if this is breaking news, but some
news that just came out via Adam Schefter. We were
mentioning Deshaun Watson and his motivational video he sent out,
you know. According to Adam Schefter, the Cleveland Browns and
Joe Flacco have reached agreement on a one year, four
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million dollar deal that can be worth up to thirteen
million dollars with incentives. Flacco will return to Cleveland, where
he won the NFL's Comeback Player of the Year in
twenty twenty three. So congratulations to the Cleveland Browns. Get
ready to go wacko for Flacco there because he is back.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
That's their response to the hype video.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yeah, sweet video, brother, you want to come at us?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Huh yeah, so I'll show you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
So Joe Flacco, yikes, yeah, Lao is now back in
Cleveland with the Browns.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's hard to argue with the success he had there,
I mean with him with Baker Mayfield, Like there was
a level of success with Kevin Stefanski. So the fact
that they're making this move, I don't know if this completely,
you know, precludes them from taking a quarterback at two
or maybe somewhere in the draft. But if you believe
any of those betting odds, Travis Hunter is believed to
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go number two to the Browns. And at least now
they've got while they wait for Deshaun Watson to maybe
come back at the tail end of this year, at
least they've got a guy who performed well in Stefanskis
system a couple of years ago, and Joe flaccould make
a return.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
He performed decent last year in Indianapolis. I mean personally,
statistically speaking, it was an uptick from what they were
getting from Anthony Richardson. And even though the record, the
win lost record didn't reflect it. I mean, look, they
moved on from Gus Bradley, their defense really struggled. It
was more do with that than anything else. And I
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think if you look at why he didn't sign back
there in the first place, it supposedly had a lot
to do with Deshaun Watson and his representation not wanting
flak Or to be back there again, given that he
had led the Browns on a ridiculous run into the playoffs.
That was supposedly what the rationale was why he wasn't
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back last year as a Cleveland Brown and instead ended
up going at thirty nine years old to the Annapolis Colts.
So I would say this kind of puts a fork
into Deshaun Watson coming back for the Browns at any point.
I wouldn't be shocked now if the Browns they might
take Hunter with that first first round pick, but do
not be surprised at all if the Browns don't find
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a way of taking a quarterback, maybe trading up in
the back end of the first or taking one in
the second or third round.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Did they have to do a new contract with Kenny
Pickett or are they still working on his rookie content rack?
I believe they.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Well, I thought, can you Picket ended up signing a
different deal in Philly?
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I can look that up now. That could be correct.
That you could be correct, because here's my thing. Kenny
Pickett is young, and he's a forgotten about commodity in
a lot of ways. Because it didn't go the way
it was supposed to go for him in Pittsburgh and
then boom, he's gone. How many people would debate and
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argue that Kenny Pickett got a raw deal going to
getting drafted by Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Oh, no doubt about.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
It hasn't worked out for any other quarterback, right.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
So yeah, so he's actually in the last year of
his rookie deal, so you already's still on his rookie
deal and he will his fifth year option is available.
So it'll be interesting to see what the Browns decide
to do because if he comes in and plays, it
could be a kind of Daniel Jones situation where if
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you look at the Daniel Jones New York Giants Steele,
had they just picked up the fifth year option, they
would have never been put in the position to, you know,
franchise tax saque for the year, agree to the long
term deal Jones, which then got them in because the
next year after that, they're stuck with the deal with
Daniel Jones. They can't work out a long term deal
with Saquon Barkley, he ends up leaving, he goes to
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the Eagles, Like there's all those issues that came from that.
So what they decide to do with Picket and they
have to this offseason, they can't wait till obviously after
this year, is going to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I think that that quarterback room with Pickett and now
adding Flacco, I think there's potential there. I really do.
I think there's potential there, and that potential is Flacco
can come in. He knows the offense, he's had success
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in it. People are fond of him. He brings a
leadership quality of veteran quality. It stabilizes in my estimation,
it stabilizes what they have going on because of the
familiarity with him. I think that along with last year
can he Pickett got a really good probably lesson in
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how to be that type of quarterback from Jalen Hurts
as well a stable personality, someone that the players relate
to and buy into. I think Kenny Pickett's last this year,
going into this year gives him the opportunity to compete
for that starting job and if he can't win it,
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if he can't get it this season, then you have
Flacco to fall back on, and then you want you
worry about if you get a quarterback later in this
draft or if you go after a quarterback in next
year's draft. But I think that it takes it alleviates,
my estimation, the pressure of trying to figure out the
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quarterback's position now by having someone to go with Kenny
Pickett because I think we were estimating either it's a
draft pick or it's going to be Kenny Pickett that's
probably starting for this team next year. So now I
add in Flacco. I think that that really gives them
a stability that maybe you didn't look at or see
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that they had right now at this moment.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
It probably closes the door on Kirk Cousins to Cleveland
as well too. So yeah, that that limits, no doubt
his potential, which would have made some sense from the
standpoint that you know, he had good years with Stefanski
in Minnesota and so.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Now he's just going to be in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
And you know, if a team decides after the draft,
because that was Kirk cousins big feeling was I don't
want to have happened last year happen again, and so
after the draft, maybe they start to, you know, look
at potentially making a move. But they picked up his
ten million dollar option. Cleveland was thought to be the
team that would be most interested with potentially Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
As a fallback plan.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
But now you look at it and you go, all right,
maybe he just sticks around in Atlanta to be the
backup to Michael Pennix, which, by the way, Pennix has
dealt with injury stuff in his career in college as well.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Too serious serious.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
It's not like, you know, maybe you will need to
depend on Kirk Cousins at some point. So so that's
the latest on the Cleveland Browns quarterback saga, as Deshaun
Watson continues to post high videos. So maybe he should
have waited until this came out and then post.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
It, because maybe they waited until they saw that post
come out for them to post it.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
And they're like, we got to go to the bullpen, Joe,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Like Deshaun Watson did what Joe?
Speaker 1 (47:47):
This guy did?
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Okay, we got something for that. We got something for it.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Hey, Joe, this day this guy didn't get it. How's
four million?
Speaker 5 (47:55):
All right?
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Come on down? So there we go, bro.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
He still gets to sit there with his backup against
the wall with two hundred and thirty million, you know,
connected to that wall, right, you know, getting beat down
and stepped on and caring about what people think. It's
still you know, you know, he's got he's got nothing
to lose, you know what I mean, just everything to gain.
Is the best of two pros and a coupled Joe
with Lamar airings and rating Wind and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Happy Friday to you and yours on this glorious April morning.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Good morning everyone.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Yeah, how we hell yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We are rocketed rolling here Onday Friday morning. You know,
it does feel like springtimes in the air. It feels
like the birds are chirping.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Oh yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Feels like the the azaleas are bright, oh god and plentiful.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Hey, is that someone peeing over there in that river?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You gotta go, You gotta go, Yeah, I tell you.
And you know, I don't want to hear any shaming
from women out there, just because we have a built
in advantage, all right.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I don't want to hear anything. When you got to go,
you got.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
To go to me.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
The best part about it is I believe he's in
his Arizona State golfer so he's kind of representing the
school quite well, whipping it out there.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Why is that the Is that the Pete Prisco method
as well?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Too?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Well?
Speaker 6 (01:11):
I was gonna say, like, because Pete Prisco comes on
and that's his alma model, we might as well just
go and take some take some shots.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
Also, that player, he's an amateur. How do he pronounce
his last name Blestra something like that?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
All right, the trend of.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
The hat he's wearing, which also got a lot of flak,
is the stupidest thing in the world, all right. I
don't know who started this. I don't know if it
was an Imperial Hats or who did this. It's the
hat that I actually someone told me Dallas the Cowboys did.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
It's the hat where it's upside down.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Let me let me just tell you guys something.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Two years from now, you're gonna look back at that
hat sting on a shelf and go, that was the
stupidest thing I've ever bought. Why the hell would you
buy a hat with a reading upside down? What is
the point of that? It's the stupidest hat I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
LaVar, LaVar.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
If somebody was rocking a stick city hat upside down,
it's insulting. That's like horns down. It's insulting. It's disrespectful.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
What's the point.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Somebody tell me the point of the hat, Like, it's
not like it's like, oh, you could wear backwards, to
wear a different way.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
It's the stupidest hat there is. I know it sounds
ridiculous to go off on something like this.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It is so dumb, but so dumb, I can't find
the logic, so I'm going to stare clear of it.
I'll choose a different hill to put my ten toes
down and stand on it with you today. This one
ain't it. I'm with you. I can't because I can't
find the logic in it. Mike. I recall like shirts
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and hats that had the spelling backwards because if you
looked in the mirror, it would fix it, right. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
The difference is it's just upside down. You can't look
at the mirror. Doesn't change anything.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That doesn't change anything.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
That's what I'm saying. It's the stupidest hat there is.
I'd rather wear a big bucket cowboy hat.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Hey, I wear big bucket cowboy hats. Bro.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
That's that's something about the golf course. I'm saying, go
ahead and wear the golf course. I'd rather you wear.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That than are you allowed to wear I know you
can wear like certain type of like what type of
fabric hats like that. That are almost like a Derby.
But are you allowed to wear like a Derby or
a cowboy hat on the golf course. I'd probably be
hard to hit, right, be hard to swing probably.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
With the cowboy hat the derby. I mean, I don't
see dudes wearing hats.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I've seen guys with like the like the kind of
the top of their gadget type of hat, or you
know what I mean, like.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
A smaller hat, the pain Stewart type hat.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
It's almost like the hooligan hat from you.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Know, you get what I'm saying though, right, Yeah, it's
like one of those detective hats, but it's just not
Didn't Arnie Palmer wear one too? I think he wore
one at times.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Doesn't Bruce Arims wear one? Is this a Caangle hat?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes? Cangle? That's a Cagle like Yeah, I know they
wear those, but there was a there's still one more
like a detective type of hat that I've seen guys wear,
like I know about apple Jack, you know type deals
on the golf course, but like, didn't like Bagger Vance
wear like an apple Jack or something like that. Is
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that even a name? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I'm not sure, I do know this that.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Will Smith in a in a movie and I think
it's golf is golf? All right?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, So Dak Prescott wore the upside down Dallas hat.
I saw that. Then I think I saw Baker Mayfield
wearing it makes makes all.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, My home says a't wear. For some reading, it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Seems to make a little bit more sense.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Now, you under saying like you can.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Look back, like look back at something you wore back
when you were younger. Oh God, and you're like, oh
that was.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
A bad look. You know that? Why do we do that?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
This hat will be that for everyone out there who's
going to buy that hat and wear that hat? And
something tells me, By the way, Berto, not taking shots here,
I'm just saying you probably have one of those hats
I have. I have a sense, Berto, you might be
wearing that hat. Throw it away?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Is there the chance? Is there the chance that the
reasoning behind it is to get around maybe a trademark
infringement or something to that effect. I mean, if it's
upside down and it's not readable or considered to be readable,
then would you like if it where the right side
up and you used la.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
By my imagination, would take me to this in a
court of law.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
A judge would not uphold that for you, like you
would lose that battle.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Here's the other thing too, like the one Dak Prescott
would wear just says Dallas upside down. Man, you go
to any airport in Dallas and they've got Dallas merchandise.
So there's no corner on the market when it comes
to that, Like you can't trademark the city name Dallas.
He just doesn't because it's like a fashion trend and
it sucks.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I'm sure somebody owns Dallas, bro, I'm telling you, and
then probably is Dallas that owns it, Like somebody owns
the trademark of Dallas. I would assume I don't know,
but I would assume I don't know, but I asume, yeah,
well I don't know. I mean to be honest, I
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don't even know why I got wrapped into this conversation.
I was gonna stare clear, Now I've got myself into.
It's okay.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Dallas is a geographic name. Trademarks for geogra geographic terms
or are tricky, you can't do it. Yeah, So nobody
can own Dallas as an outright trademark.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, it's a bit ridiculous, but well there you go,
you know, so you don't have to put it upside down. Guys. Yeah,
and although you might be sending a message if you
got Dallas on a hat, I mean, which way is up?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
You know? I'm not gonna lie, I know yet. I
walked into a.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Pro shop had a at a country club yesterday and
the had a hat like that, and this young kid
was sitting there and I just go, God, this hat's
just stupid. I was like, you see that kid wearing
the Masters. He's like yeah, He's like, I don't think
they look that bad. And I go, oh you don't.
I go, I go just give it two years. I go,
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see if you don't look back at that and go
that was dumb hat. While I buy that, he just
looks at me. He's like, I think if you space
out the letters more. I go, yeah, it doesn't matter.
It's just stupid hat.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I go, what is it? What does it even mean?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Like?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Why is it upside down? He's kept looking at me.
I go, just get rid of it if you've got one.
That's all I'm saying to you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Brady Quinton just told me my hat sucks. Excuse me, sir, but.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I'm giving him advice.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I'm telling him, like, bro, we've been there, like Jinko jeans, Yeah,
I had to look stupid, no idea why to wear
a wide jean.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
It was almost like a bell bottom face, Like why was.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That ever come? They're a big style of that, not
that style of pants that where they like cover your
doc mad Yeah, like way cover your doctor, like cover
your whole.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Weird, like stupid and every stupid then and I did it,
and it's stupid.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Every middle every middle schooler looks like Gwen Stefani from
back in the nineties, like they are weather same, the
same outfits, baggy jeans, crop like which is it's.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Weird facular It depends which one you know, tang.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, the new one or the old one? The yeah
wes Pa Well even then she had like it was
like x Tina.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
That one was like oh she was kind of you
know risketch.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I just feel like the world came out and was like,
you know what, I'm going to embrace my curves. I'm
going to I want everybody to know I'm here. And
then leggings came back in the world changed forever. And
that's a world that I don't want to change. It's
a it's a it's a place in time that I
wish just would stay the same. And then all of
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a sudden, here comes a whole new different way and attitude.
And now it's like, I want to just embrace my
this and I want to wear these big ass baggy
bottom jeans now and like this, this, this relaxed look,
I don't want to relax. Look for you people, I'm
just being honest, don't go if you're going to go relaxed,
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find the best pair of leggings to be relaxed. And
y'all said a tone, don't go switching it up now,
that's all I'll say.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
It was like, and there was a couple of days
ago they go, can we not implement tariffs on people
who were leggings?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
They shouldn't, Well, a bad.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Leggings. Give everybody a chance, though, Man, it gives you
a chance. I mean some of these cats out here,
you know, they wear certain things and they don't have
a chance at all. Give you some type of a chance.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
No, it exposes others too, though.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
That's the thing is, we get it. But if you're
trying to flaunt something, it also can expose some stuff
there too.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I mean there are people out here who like that
exposed stuff that are in the leggings. I mean there's
a different demographic of ofkers of leggings. That's all.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Last time, you guys saw a camel.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
You know, I don't know that I've ever seen a camel.
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I think somebody brought one of the yoga studio next door. Dang,
So where are you gonna park that thing?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Just say, look at those knuckles.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
What do you think is bigger knuckles?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Johnson?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Cable or minus moose is bigger?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Dang?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Yes, okay, they're both pretty big.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, they're pretty big.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Show me your knuckles?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Johnson?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Well, hey, how can we play that?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Can we play the Bastards music? Can we do this right?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
The Master's music. I'm so glad Mark is in and
didn't play it.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I'm jesus here we go, Yeah, next time, and to
the beree the first he hit AUGUSTA. We've got a
battle between a Campbell and.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I'm not sure who's gonna win.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Hey, Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Both wearing yoga pants. You know normally it's a normally
it's a guessing game at this point, but we know
a club's e bringing.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
What Justin rose as a Campbell and a moose break
at the same time.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Here at the masters.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Lee Lee, where do we stand on our our names
out of the hat? Because I feel like everybody is
is doing well minus you.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Well, some better than others, and I'm I'm middle of
the pack here. Now, hold on, I might have had
the worst day, but I'm not don't have a score yet. Scotti,
Scheffler and Ludwig Auberg both four under. That would be
of course you, Jonas and LeVar off tops.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Now.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
I was hoping my Rory McElroy would also be four under,
but those last four holes didn't quite do him any favors.
He's now even after shooting plus four on those And
then what do we We got speed at one under?
That's you Brady and John Rahm. Three under for Lorena.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Okay, so we're all in contention.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Off Lorena gets that Friday, doesn't she Dang? I need
her program, Damn shoot program Homie.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
HOI uh m hmm, what is that the TV version
of that line? I had no idea though I thought
he said something out.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Shoe shoe pro, shoe program, program, shoo shoe program, and
we'd I'm not sure what what did he say?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't know, nolah blah, you look that up.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I'm do right now.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, well listen, uh you know it is uh, it
is Augusta, it is the Masters, and nobody's broken it
down like we have.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I feel like we.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Really went after the music.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Jeez, I can I ask this question though, Like this
is actually like a legitimate question.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Oh yeah, if you guys.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Were in like a four day tournament, would would you
guys rather be like in Justin Rose's position, where like
people like Jonas if you have a you know, mediocre
day or bad day Friday.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Be like, oh he choked, look at that guy, look
at him over they choked.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
But it's really like he played out of his mind yesterday.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
But I guess the questions would you rather be leading
out the gate round one after the first day, knowing
you have three more days to play, or would you
rather be like in contention but like.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Lurking, like there he is behind the bush, Leva Arrington's lurking.
You're ready to pounce, Like which position would you.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Rather look at that, and I wouldn't want to lead,
Like leave me in the group that's sitting at four
under or even a three under, like like put me
where Bryson d. Chambeau is, Like, just let me sit
with him, and then I'll just figure it out and
and everybody will come back to the pack and I
can sort of make a climb throughout the course of
the weekend. But yeah, if he starts off seven under
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and then he comes out and you know, has a
three under day, which is still a good day at Augusta,
that's not four shots worse than he was the previous
day and now.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
But he's still going to probably be a hit. It up,
but he's still gonna probably be a hit maybe maybe not.
I'd rather have the cushion. I mean, I get it.
It's always a maybe maybe not. I'd rather be a hit, Okay,
I'd rather be a hit. Like I could say I
was ahead, I'd rather be ahead. I'd rather have a lead.
If you're going to eat into my lead, I'd rather
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you eat into my lead rather than me get further
away from the lead. I just i'd rather be I
always want to be in the lead. Now, if there's
a few things that maybe that might not be the
you know, if you're in staggered stances and track, like
if it's the two hundred meters or something like that
and you're staggered, I get it depending on where you are.
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But if I'm the first one, like if I'm the
furthest one, now hold on.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Can ask a question about that? How far until you
hit even when you do the staggered starts? Does it
depend on the race?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Does?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It does? I mean I would say you're probably gonna
if you're really fast, you'll pull even earlier. But you
you should be pulling even coming out of that that
ben like coming into the home stretch of a two
hundred meters you should be even. You should be even
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so once you want to know, I'm stretch.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Of But I guess what I'm asking is you know
how they're staggered at some point? It's either a distance
where they all run in the same lane, right correct,
they can all take the inside lane, or they they
they stay in their lane for like a sprint.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Is that more like indoors? That why they do that too?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I mean it's it creates the same space, like like
if it's two hundred meters based on the dimensions of
the track. They that's how you know, that's how they
line you up like four hundred meters or like eight hundred.
I believe they all like merge into the same lane,
right because it doesn't matter at that point. But in
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a sprint, like in a true sprint two hundred two hundred,
where you're staggered, you stay in your lane, so you're
gonna want to eat up the gap you know, from
being you know behind, like if you're in lane one,
Lane one is the furthest behind, I believe, and then
laying like the further up you go in numbers, the
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farther away it gets, like the closer to the finish line.
It is. If anybody understood what I just said, But
coming out of that that that ben going down one
hundred meters, you want to have ate up that staggered start,
is what I'd say. So I get if you're not
leading going into that final one hundred, and they talk
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about the kick that you need to be able to
win it. But I would want to be in the
lead even if I was running the two hundred meters.
If I'm the one that's ahead when the when the
gun sounds, I still want to maintain my lead the
rest of the way, like that's what I would be
trying for. Okay, But some people pace themselves and they
wait and they let somebody run themselves out, and they
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might go out too fast. That happens in the four
hundred a lot. You'll go out too fast and you'll
you'll die out and you don't have that kick at
the end, and you'll see people run by you.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Did these staggered lanes have anything to do with the
terrible accident that happened when the woman was wrongfully accused
of assaulting the other runner with her baton, which was
clearly an accident, like she just kind of lost her balance, and.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So that right there. First of all, you have to
make sure that the young lady who accidentally hit that
other young lady upside the head with that metal object
or steel object, whatever it was metal, You have to
understand that her mental health was impeded and it was
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altered by that young lady running by her so closely
in that lane. Now they were merged into the same lanes,
so they were running behind each other, running beside one another,
and her mental health got into the situation, and she
tried to swipe the mental health attack away. Yeah, and
(19:57):
it just happened to be in the form of a
person and and their head and that's that's what was
what was going on. I buy it Shoe program. Whatever
happened with that anyway.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I just I felt bad for it because I felt
like she was being attacked.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Uh. Well, she said that her family everybody stands with her,
you know, they stand with her.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, well, ten toes down that stand with her.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I guess it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
So we are gonna have the usuals coming up.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Later on, we will have another edition of In case
you missed it, We've got Lee's leftovers, all of them.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'm so mad that quote. I thought it was homie,
to be honest, it was not homie. It was no.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It was that.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
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Speaker 2 (21:01):
So we mentioned TJ. Watts looking for a new deal.
Micah Parsons is looking to get paid. A lot of
people are out there are looking to get paid. Well,
you know who did get paid the NFL. Via Ben
Fisher of Sports Business Journal, the total league revenue surpassed
twenty three billion in the most recent fiscal year. Teams
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will receive a four hundred and sixteen million dollar distribution
from their shared TV sponsorship and licensing revenue. It has
jumped almost nine percent over last year's figure of three
hundred and eighty two million dollars, So congratulations to all involved.
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Hopefully we'll get a cut of that considering you know,
we've done a lot to promote and cover the NFL,
but nonetheless that league is thriving now.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It's crazy to me, and I always say this when
people side with NFL owners as opposed to players. These
organizations print money. We've talked about how countless times you
can be a bad owner and you'll still make money.
I mean, the real window we have into how much
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exactly they're making because each team gets four and sixty million.
But take the Green Bay Packers for example, in twenty
twenty four, they generated six hundred and fifty four million
in revenue, Okay, revenue ninety eight almost one hundred million
of that end up being a net income the gain
and then sixty over sixty million was their profit. And
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that is a organization that's in a small market, and
that was last year. So if you actually look at
last year's payout from the TV media rights, I believe
they were distributed three hundred eighty two million, So technically
two hundred and seventy two million of just Green Bay's revenue,
right a smaller market are coming from other ventures. Imagine
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any of the teams in New York, Imagine Dallas, imagine
La imagine some of these other bigger market teams Chicago.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
I mean, they have to be well north of that.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
And if you're looking at how much the owners are
making right four and sixteen just from the TV, again,
just from the TV, what they generated revenue was the
salary cap is what sixty percent.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Of that.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
For the entire team that year? I mean, is it's
growing at a.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Pace meaning what the distribution media rightes are that it's
far surpassing where the players are in regards to the
salary cap.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Like that that ratio is going to be off at
some point in.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
The future, especially as Roger Gudeo keeps pushing the lead
to get the twenty five billion by twenty twenty seven.
You add in that eighteenth game. They keep going the
way they're going, it's it's going to get to that number.
It is just ridiculous how successful the NFL is.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
All right, My first question is now not as a player,
but more of a serial entrepreneur. If you can grow
your business and your brand, and a lot of people
would argue, you know, people will argue that it's the
brand that carries the weight of commanding those types of
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dollars versus maybe in different you know, leagues associations where
it's more the superstars that carry you know, the popularity
and the interest in the sport. Is it is it
crazy to think that you may hit a bubble with
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the ownership in terms of what they're willing to pay out.
Will it always be based upon a percentage in your
estimation or does it ever get to a point where
it's like, yeah, we're not paying you any more than
what we're paying you and for what it's worth, maybe
some of that money starts going to some of the
other players and not just the three or four marquee
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players that are on a team. I mean, is there
any chance that the thought process of how the money
is distributed changes at some point if you're an owner
in this situation with business booming the way it.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Is now, I don't think it will.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I mean personal going to always have to adjust and evolve,
like the percentages always have to move with how much
is being generated.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Yeah, I mean it should theoretically, that's the fair way
to do it. That's where if you're the players union,
you would think that the compensation players are getting should
be equal to what the owners are getting.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I mean, that's what you that's what you'd think.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Now again, there's all sorts of accounting tricks and things
you can do to you know, make actually more pocket
more than what it shows. But think about this. The
NFL is generating over twenty three billion dollars a year
right now, twenty five Do you know that's more than
like sixty countries GDP, like Afghanistan, Aruba, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Botswana, actually,
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for that matter, pretty much every single country in Africa, Fiji.
You can go on through the different like Liberia. I
mean you could technically throw in Syria and Yemen, even
though some that's not exactly complete data because their economies
are taking with the conflict going on.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I mean Saint.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Lucia, like all these, I mean over sixty countries. It's
bigger than their GDP just the NFL alone a year,
and what they're able to generate in revenue, it is
ridiculous if you are an owner, isn't it the if
it's not broke, don't fix it mentality?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Like if you're an owner, like why would you change
the way you are paying these players?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Just keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
And if we can get that eighteenth game, it's just
going to add more revenue. Like I would look at
it and just say, hey, guys, this is working. Let's
continue to build on it, Let's continue to build on
our relationships when it comes to gambling, and let's just
let's just not screw this whole thing up and figure
out a way that we can continue on this path
and this trajectory. Because I don't think anybody expected this,
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especially like coming out of COVID, there was a thought like, man,
how are things going to look? How are things going
to change? Afterwards, I think people just started to have
more of an appreciation for it, and once it came back.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
It was like, Yeah, let's just roll, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Keep going. They switch in and out so quickly in football.
I don't know if people realize how quickly players switch
in and switch out because we're so accustomed to playing
attention to the marquee players. But they switch in and
they switch out so so quickly, and new stars are
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born in essence, really in a lot of situations maybe overnight.
You find stars in so many different ways in the
game of football. It isn't always a pronounced way of
finding that next superstar. Chances are the star of this
year's draft might not even be talked about in detail
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and in depth, like that's how it works. So I
just wonder, like again, not trying to like kind of
move the goalposts for the players or anything like that,
because they are certainly deserving of what it is that
they get. But I just think that if you're looking
at it from the league perspective, I think the NFL
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has done as good a job, if not the best, job,
of making sure that the brand is always upfront and
it's stronger than what the individual rules that are connected
to it. You know, in terms of their value. As
big a player as Patrick Mahomes is, they will still
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continue to thrive. Once Patrick Mahomes is not a Kansas
City Chief. We've seen it happen a ton of times now. Granted,
they may not continue to win at the clip that
they've won at, and that might, you know, question the value,
But I don't think the value changes so much so drastically.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It doesn't stop.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
The show doesn't stop if one of these guys aren't
playing anymore. I just I just wonder at what point
where you're generating you're generating business off of as you
mentioned Q, you're generating money off of other aspects of
what you're doing business wise, it's not just the game.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
And so once you get into all of.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Those those aspects of it, how do you continue to
figure out what that percentage is that you're going to
pay to your employees. Because to me, I'm trying to
drive up my revenue and keep my costs and my
hard costs, I'm trying to keep that down. I'm almost
on some Anthony Edwards type stuff, like if you're one
of my best players, if you're a Patrick Mahomes. I'll
(30:13):
do a deal like what they did, give you a
ten year deal guarantee or you know, all this money
guaranteed and stuff like that. I'll do that with those guys.
So now I don't have to revisit this like we
talked about with TJ. Water with Miles Garrett. I don't
want to have to keep revisiting doing contracts. So I'm
gonna give you a I'm gonna give you a fIF
(30:33):
the life of your your career will most likely be
twelve thirteen years. I'm gonna give you a twelve thirteen
year contract. Patrick Mahomes. Don't come back and ask me
for nothing else. Don't come back, don't come renegotiate. We'll
do some some shifting and some moving like you're the
bank of our team and all that stuff. That's cool,
but don't come back to me asking me for no
(30:55):
bigger paycheck I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give it
to you all right now, take this money, make it
right now.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
It isn't I mean you have to say, though, that
contract then has to factor in the growth of what's
going to happen in the company and that amount of time.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Sure, I mean I could try to throw it in,
but what if it outperforms what I factored?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
You know what, what if what? But you're making the
case for TJ.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Watt right now, as Jonas kind of laid out, that
jumped dramatically in the past few years. So now he's
in a position where he has a guy who he
battles with for defensive Player of the Year, and you
could make the case he's the most important player of
the entire team in Pittsburgh, and yet he's making half
of what Miles Garret would make this year.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I think that's why you like. It comes down to
making decisions, right, Like if somebody offers you X amount
of dollars for X amount of time, whether the forecast
turns out to be accurate or not, as as you
move forward, if it outperforms it by a ton or
if it doesn't. At the end of the day, you
(32:03):
got your guaranteed contract. Like, whatever it is, your baseline
is that's your baseline. So while while I will sit
there and say, yeah, you can look at it from
the comparison standpoint of this guy's contract came up at
a time where the money went up, the value went up,
and so he's asking for more money. But you're making
a choice when you when you do that contract. Every
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single time we do a contract.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
You're making you know this is this is interesting so so,
But that means you're basically saying they should never sign
a twelve year contract then, right, I mean you're taking it,
that's what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, look at it like this, right, if I know
I'm guaranteeing myself this throughout the duration of time that
I'm going to be in the league that some people
may like that security and and like that understanding of
where their cash is coming from and how much it is,
and how I can tax it and where I can
put it and how I can invest. Verse is I'm
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gonna do a two year I'm gonna do a four
year deal, five year deal, six year deal, but I
know that it's going to come up in three years
to four years. I may want to do it. It's
a choice, that's I mean, that's why I understand that.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
But I think both sides have an understanding for like
the Patrick Mahomes deal, that they're going to redo this deal.
He's gonna get compensated more. They're not going to let
him fall. So far behind that he gets disgruddled and
he's saying, I'm the best player in the league, I'm
probably going to be for the rest of my career,
and yet I'm not being compensated like that, right, Like,
that's a recipe for a disaster.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
So let me pose it this way. So let's not
pose a long term deal.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Let's just say that for example, because to your point,
like you're saying, if you're under a contract, then you
know you shouldn't, like the player in this case, should.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Have the chance to revisit it.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Well, what if you're presented with a better opportunity, like
let's just say, using us hypothetically, like a new time
slot opens up and they come to you and say, well, yeah,
we want you to go this new time slot and
it's gonna be a bigger platform also their stuff. But
you're not gonna actually make any more additional money. You're
just gonna work this contract out in the meantime.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, what about that bar?
Speaker 5 (34:14):
What about that again?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I think it still comes down to I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
So you're just you're gonna work. You know, you're just
gonna work out the contract that you signed.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You have decisions that you have to make ultimate Okay,
all right, now, granted, since you pose it that way,
it's funny to bring that up. It's funny you bring
it up. I mean, if that were to be the opportunity,
I just need to understand what are all of the
(34:44):
opportunities connected to making this move right?
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Like this way, Like the person who was there, you know,
before you, is probably making more. They're compensated more for
all those things and all that. So theoretically, I mean,
you should want to renegotiate and want to actually you
get compensated more and do all that. But like what
you're saying is like they should just you know, they
sign a contract, right, Like you should just keep making
what you're making.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Right, I would say there's a tat bit of a
difference in the sense. And this is the reason why
I would say there's a tad bit of a difference
in the comparisons. Is that one is you're taking one
and you're moving You're moving a commodity, you're moving assets
(35:27):
into a different it's a totally different space.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Oh, totally different.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Okay, So let me give you that it's totally different. Yeah,
let me give you the totally different comparison. That's not
totally different. So let's say you're a backup guy gets
hurt like Sam Darnold, goes in and plays the season,
plays fantastic. So I if he was under a three
year deal, he just gots to play for backup money
the next two years.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
If he becomes the starter I think you have. I
think there are.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Theoretically that's that new time slaw your title. He becomes
a starter. Right, that's a great point.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Oh so, so the people are backups as they are.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
What I'm saying that that's the example that I'm referring
to in this case for like a player, Well.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
That's an edit. That's an edit, pete, because that's that's
news to me. If they're backups right now now if
they are not saying they are backups, because that makes
me a little upset.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Now, that hurts my feelings a little bit.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
If we're talking speaking.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Here's how I put it, LeVar, I feel like you're
you're putting your box yourself into a corner with this.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Maybe things should just be a little more fluid, you know.
It's it's okay, like it sounds like you don't like,
you don't like the contract negotiation thing.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
A Q.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I'm gonna shut up and let y'all take this the
rest of this segment, because now that you've put it
in those terms, I'm just I'm gonna stay away from
this conversation because I didn't learned about backups now becoming
starters and starters getting paid more money. Which you're right,
Starters should always make more money than backups. You are
(36:58):
one hundred percent right. So, by the way, if that's
the case, then you should always be able to get
more out of the scenario if you go from being
a backup on the bench to being a starter in
the game.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
You know, one the backup mixes in, you know, on
the bench say they ain't making money.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I'm just saying they ain't the starter.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You know what's wild if you go back ten years
so the twenty fifteen season, damn, the highest salary annually
that year in the NFL was Aaron Rodgers at twenty
two million dollars. Rock Party's trying to get sixty right now.
In a decade, these salaries for Dak Prescott's already getting
(37:42):
sixty have jumped three times what they were at ten
years ago.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
The NFL just keep doing what you're doing, man, just
keep doing it, you know, just.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Don't Butcher, it's a good problem to haven't don't drive
it through the iceberg.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And that's probably why people are letting that, Like it's
the right time to let some of the equity of
your team go, right, some of the ownership with your team.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
If you believe in iceberg is what took down the Titanic.
You know, there are this conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Hey, that's one of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, I mean that one.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Come on, man, was it? Who was it? JP? Morgan?
Who was it that didn't get on the boat?
Speaker 6 (38:19):
And all the other the financiers, although the bank owners
got on.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, and then if you look at the actual like
there's like an ID plate of the Titanic, it didn't
match up to the actual one. And the one they
sent out on the water was like the rickety one
that that had issues.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I get there.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I guess there was another one. So yeah, it's not
exactly the way it was presented to us, which is
weird because it normally always is, you know, as we
found out. So yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Let's go to break well, I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Listen, I'm I have to go cry some tears and
wipe my face and regather myself and recenter myself so
that we can you know.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Hey, I got just show got something for you though.
Are check this out?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Mm hmm?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Come on far.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, buddy, were timing, Yeah talks. This is not a
song for bench warmers.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
No, on the bitch.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'm on the bitch.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I'm on the bitch.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I want sleep. I want sleep. I want sleep. I
want sleep. Can I get some sleep?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Far?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Can I get some sleep? Can I get some sleep?
Get some sleep? Wake up? Look at my eyes, Look
at my eyes. Look at my eyes. They look like
they're okay, okay, okay, Mark, Okay, you got me.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it for Eddie.
Friday night is a football Friday, Football Friday.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Can I get some sleep?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Going into Friday? Can I get some sleep?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Come on?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Can I get some sleep?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Bet get your back up right here.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
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Speaker 2 (40:07):
We've also got a little bit of breaking news here.
I don't know if this is breaking news, but some
news that just came out via Adam Schefter. We were
mentioning Deshaun Watson and his motivational video he sent out,
you know. According to Adam Schefter, the Cleveland Browns and
Joe Flacco have reached agreement on a one year, four
(40:28):
million dollar deal that can be worth up to thirteen
million dollars with incentives. Flacco will return to Cleveland, where
he won the NFL's Comeback Player of the Year in
twenty twenty three. So congratulations to the Cleveland Browns. Get
ready to go wacko for Flacco there because he is back.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
That's their response to the hype video.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yeah, sweet video, brother, you want to come at us?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Huh yeah, so I'll show you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
So Joe Flacco, yikes, yeah, Lao is now back in
Cleveland with the Browns.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's hard to argue with the success he had there,
I mean with him with Baker Mayfield, Like there was
a level of success with Kevin Stefanski. So the fact
that they're making this move, I don't know if this completely,
you know, precludes them from taking a quarterback at two
or maybe somewhere in the draft. But if you believe
any of those betting odds, Travis Hunter is believed to
(41:28):
go number two to the Browns. And at least now
they've got while they wait for Deshaun Watson to maybe
come back at the tail end of this year, at
least they've got a guy who performed well in Stefanskis
system a couple of years ago, and Joe flaccould make
a return.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
He performed decent last year in Indianapolis. I mean personally,
statistically speaking, it was an uptick from what they were
getting from Anthony Richardson. And even though the record, the
win lost record didn't reflect it. I mean, look, they
moved on from Gus Bradley, their defense really struggled. It
was more do with that than anything else. And I
(42:03):
think if you look at why he didn't sign back
there in the first place, it supposedly had a lot
to do with Deshaun Watson and his representation not wanting
flak Or to be back there again, given that he
had led the Browns on a ridiculous run into the playoffs.
That was supposedly what the rationale was why he wasn't
(42:26):
back last year as a Cleveland Brown and instead ended
up going at thirty nine years old to the Annapolis Colts.
So I would say this kind of puts a fork
into Deshaun Watson coming back for the Browns at any point.
I wouldn't be shocked now if the Browns they might
take Hunter with that first first round pick, but do
not be surprised at all if the Browns don't find
(42:46):
a way of taking a quarterback, maybe trading up in
the back end of the first or taking one in
the second or third round.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Did they have to do a new contract with Kenny
Pickett or are they still working on his rookie content rack?
I believe they.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Well, I thought, can you Picket ended up signing a
different deal in Philly?
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I can look that up now. That could be correct.
That you could be correct, because here's my thing. Kenny
Pickett is young, and he's a forgotten about commodity in
a lot of ways. Because it didn't go the way
it was supposed to go for him in Pittsburgh and
then boom, he's gone. How many people would debate and
(43:29):
argue that Kenny Pickett got a raw deal going to
getting drafted by Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Oh, no doubt about.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
It hasn't worked out for any other quarterback, right.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
So yeah, so he's actually in the last year of
his rookie deal, so you already's still on his rookie
deal and he will his fifth year option is available.
So it'll be interesting to see what the Browns decide
to do because if he comes in and plays, it
could be a kind of Daniel Jones situation where if
(43:57):
you look at the Daniel Jones New York Giants Steele,
had they just picked up the fifth year option, they
would have never been put in the position to, you know,
franchise tax saque for the year, agree to the long
term deal Jones, which then got them in because the
next year after that, they're stuck with the deal with
Daniel Jones. They can't work out a long term deal
with Saquon Barkley, he ends up leaving, he goes to
(44:19):
the Eagles, Like there's all those issues that came from that.
So what they decide to do with Picket and they
have to this offseason, they can't wait till obviously after
this year, is going to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I think that that quarterback room with Pickett and now
adding Flacco, I think there's potential there. I really do.
I think there's potential there, and that potential is Flacco
can come in. He knows the offense, he's had success
(44:54):
in it. People are fond of him. He brings a
leadership quality of veteran quality. It stabilizes in my estimation,
it stabilizes what they have going on because of the
familiarity with him. I think that along with last year
can he Pickett got a really good probably lesson in
(45:17):
how to be that type of quarterback from Jalen Hurts
as well a stable personality, someone that the players relate
to and buy into. I think Kenny Pickett's last this year,
going into this year gives him the opportunity to compete
for that starting job and if he can't win it,
(45:42):
if he can't get it this season, then you have
Flacco to fall back on, and then you want you
worry about if you get a quarterback later in this
draft or if you go after a quarterback in next
year's draft. But I think that it takes it alleviates,
my estimation, the pressure of trying to figure out the
(46:03):
quarterback's position now by having someone to go with Kenny
Pickett because I think we were estimating either it's a
draft pick or it's going to be Kenny Pickett that's
probably starting for this team next year. So now I
add in Flacco. I think that that really gives them
a stability that maybe you didn't look at or see
(46:24):
that they had right now at this moment.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
It probably closes the door on Kirk Cousins to Cleveland
as well too. So yeah, that that limits, no doubt
his potential, which would have made some sense from the
standpoint that you know, he had good years with Stefanski
in Minnesota and so.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Now he's just going to be in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
And you know, if a team decides after the draft,
because that was Kirk cousins big feeling was I don't
want to have happened last year happen again, and so
after the draft, maybe they start to, you know, look
at potentially making a move. But they picked up his
ten million dollar option. Cleveland was thought to be the
team that would be most interested with potentially Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
As a fallback plan.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
But now you look at it and you go, all right,
maybe he just sticks around in Atlanta to be the
backup to Michael Pennix, which, by the way, Pennix has
dealt with injury stuff in his career in college as well.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Too serious serious.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
It's not like, you know, maybe you will need to
depend on Kirk Cousins at some point. So so that's
the latest on the Cleveland Browns quarterback saga, as Deshaun
Watson continues to post high videos. So maybe he should
have waited until this came out and then post.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
It, because maybe they waited until they saw that post
come out for them to post it.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
And they're like, we got to go to the bullpen, Joe,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Like Deshaun Watson did what Joe?
Speaker 1 (47:47):
This guy did?
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Okay, we got something for that. We got something for it.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Hey, Joe, this day this guy didn't get it. How's
four million?
Speaker 5 (47:55):
All right?
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Come on down? So there we go, bro.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
He still gets to sit there with his backup against
the wall with two hundred and thirty million, you know,
connected to that wall, right, you know, getting beat down
and stepped on and caring about what people think. It's
still you know, you know, he's got he's got nothing
to lose, you know what I mean, just everything to gain.
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