April 15, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Airings and Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
We've got some some biz nass to get to and
it starts off with the US Senate. Are they coming
to the rescue of the NCAA. A. Well, we've got
five Senators Richard Blumenthal, Jerry Moran, Corey Booker, Chris Coons,
and Ted Cruz that met several times in recent weeks
in connection with the potential bill. Now, the bill, if
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it moves forward, it's expected to have three major components.
And these three major components are important because they basically
help college football get back to some sort of foundation
and structure, so we're not dealing with a lot of
what we're hearing, for example, with the nico Io Maliava situation.
So the first would be a federal preemption of any
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state based nil bill bill. Well, what that essentially means
is the federal law will rule over state law. The
second would be a declaration that athletes are students and
not employees, which is interesting and key in all of this,
and I think it's key for keeping the academic component
as part of how they're able to participate. Third, a
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limited anti trust exemption that would allow the nc DOUBLEA
and major conferences to enforce eligibility and transfer rules without
fear or liability. And that's probably the most important because
whether it's the NCAA and it's interesting how this is
worded and major conferences, because the reality is the power
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for conferences that exist control college football and that's really
the biggest bread winner, moneymaker, however you want to phrase it.
The NCAA cares more about the college basketball term. That's
how they line their pockets. So the third piece is
the biggest. Now, look, some people would suggest, hey, man,
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it's probably not a good thing for the government to
get involved, like usually doesn't make things more efficient, usually
doesn't work out well. But at this point, it feels
like the schools are hesitant to take control. The NCAA
is scared they're just gonna get sued again, and with
a Nino Supreme Court decision, you can understand that. So
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you know, look, universities could always unionize and they can
impose restrictions in this hypothetical world we're talking about, but
the reality is is it's probably tough to do. And
so look if this goes through, I still think it
will be tested in the courts. I still think that
be some players who feel like they are limited if
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there is antitrust exemption provided to the NCAA, because really
that's going to limit some of these players in the
ability to maximize their market value. So even though this
it feels like we're heading in the right direction, and
maybe there's a federal bills to be passed to help
calm this down. Ultimately, remember you know we've got Congress, okay,
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the legislative branch, they're the ones that make the bills.
And then you have the judicial branch. Okay, they interpret
the law to resolve disputes and then ensure justice.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So they will potentially have.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
To see a case that's going to come about to
decide whether or it's just how this is being handled.
At least that's my interpretation where things are going either way.
Do you feel like this is a step in the
right direction, Bar or do you feel like this is
only going to make things more messy.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I think whether it's in the right direction or or not,
it's still gonna get messy.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I don't think there's any I don't think there's any
possible way to avoid mess because it's almost like, you
know what this feels like. I guess I try to
give good analogies. I mean, maybe this is a good one,
maybe it's not. We'll see where we go.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's like heading into.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Heading into a body of water that can't handle the
depth and the size of an ocean liner. But instead
of plotting it out and planning and knowing right when
to slow that cruise liner down so that you don't
have any mishaps of it, you know, getting you know,
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caught up in into the bottom of the ocean because
it's too close to the shore. They they threw caution
to the wind, and now you have a cruise liner
that is all the way up on the beach and
maybe even in parts of the resort that's on the beach.
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Q So I feel like this has been so poorly
managed and so poorly handled in the years prior. How
long has this ad Obanon case been going on for
It's been going on a long, long, long time. The
minute that gained any type of momentum, the bodies that
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be the universities, the NCAA government, all these different entities
that are connected to college athletics should have been figuring
out what is the.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Structure moving forward, So.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
They are so far behind that no matter good steps
forward or not, it's not going to be enough. And
I don't know how long that timeframe is that actually
corrects puts enough safeguards in place to stabilize. I'll say this,
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if you get to the point, if they get this
thing to the point of where the TV dollars now
start to no, I don't even want to do that
because I just I just think that there's always going
to be greed. There's always going to be people want
and more, and you just need the perimeter of the
parameters and the different safeguards in place, the structure in
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place so that this can be handled in a business manner.
Stop saying that they're student athletes. They are student athletes,
but you cannot sacrifice the employee aspect of this anymore
like that. That sounds a little bit like disenchanting, disconnected.
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Maybe you got to accept the reality of it is
is that these guys are working. You worked when you
played for Notre Dame. I worked when I played for
Penn State. Anybody who has played a college Neward, I
did work.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I got an hourly wage at the Office of News
and Information.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
You did more, you did, you did more work.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, my off dose.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So I'd get a little, uh, a little bit of
that driving money some people will call pizza and beer money.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I used to so I used to use it. So
we had a great.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Little Italian spot on the south side of town called Brunos.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Shout out to Brunos.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
They used to have a buffet and I think they
charged like eight bucks ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It was all you could eat.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So I'd take the lineman there on Thursday nights and
we had a little set up upstairs. We had that
like that, you know, that Thursday night college football game
was on, and so I would literally take on and
Ryan Harris all right, who was my left tackle to
this day. And for anyone who knows him, and if
you see him, you can send this message to him.
I would eat him under the table with chicken palm.
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I would crush him and eat more chicken palm. He
would complain every single time that I must have fasted
the entire day.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I didn't eat. I saved up for this moment.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm not gonna tell him my secret, but I would
crush him in eating chicken pole.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Ya went with the big, the big chicken palms or
the little ones, and they gave you a whole bunch
of them.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They gave you the little Yeah they're little, You've got
a whole bunch of them.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And so I think I would probably you about eight
of those things.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
See, I like those those thin, big ones almost look
like small pieces of pizza. You know that they're like
just over the whole entire plate of chicken palm. That's
that's like my favorite.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
But I get no, it's all right.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I mean, I just think the point is is that
there's so much that has to be done at this
point that you're going to see a lot of casualties.
You're going to see a lot of mistakes. You're going
to see a lot of bad things happen before you
start to see good things happen. And I just wonder
how how long is that going to take and how
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much is it going to take to get college sports
more specifically, in my estimation, college football in a place
where it's stabilized, because it's not stable right now, and
a bill being passed, a couple of bills being past
is not going to change a structure that isn't in
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place to keep this thing moving and running in a
smooth manner without having young men connected to the game,
maybe even coaches, maybe even universities programs go unscathed. And
how things you know, play out and pan out right now.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So a couple things that are interesting, You're bout have
the Ed Obannon case. So the Edobannon I believe it
was the the EA Sports NCAA Basketball nine featuring a
virtual UCLA player matching his characteristics. And that's really what
I think drew his attention in wanting to file, so
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that this is back in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
He initially filed this, right, I.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Believe the trial started in twenty fourteen, and that is
where the initial findings. This is what gets really crazy,
all right, if people care about this stuff. US District
Court Judge Claudia Wilkin, Now that name should be familiar
to people because she's ultimately who ended up finding that
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the NCAA's amateurs and rules were unreasonable and I believe
awarded in the case of Obannon. It eventually was appealed
and the Supreme Court declined to hear the case. But
the reason why I bring up the judge because it
just so happens that Judge Claudia Wilkin is now presiding
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over the House NCAA settlement, So she not only has
played a huge role previously in that Obannon case, but
now she's handling this current case with the House NCAA settlement.
And I believe they actually sent through last night some
revisions to what the settlement will be, one of them
being that there was a question about roster limits. It
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doesn't look like the look like there'll be a change there,
but they're still trying to iron out what.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
The settlement will look like.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You know, what role, for example, collectives will have and
to what degree. Probably some issues surrounding Title nine still,
which is not a lot of clarity on what that
will look like. But the same Judge Claudia Wilkin will
impact college sports in a huge way forever.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Moving forward.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Now again going back to the five centers, the one
nice thing is you've got people from both sides of
the aisle. You have Democrats, you have Republicans that are
working together try to find a solution. That's how government
should work. Whether or not that'll last, we'll have to
wait and see. My concern and my worry is is
it still doesn't ultimately protect the student athlete because with
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these anti trust exemptions that will allow the NCAA and
major conferences to enforce eligibility and transfer rules, it's all
going to be in favor of the schools. It's going
to be a similar structure, just with revenue sharing for
the student athlete. And then maybe people want that, but
I'm kind of personally looking at saying I'd rather these
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young men and women find a way of unionizing so
they have a little more of a fair opportunity in
bargaining for a collective bargaining you know, agreement with some
sort of CBA, so they have better you know, for example,
more fair pay potentially, you know, after they're done playing
for these schools, depending on the eligibility limits. There's something
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on the table now for five years of eligibility. You know,
it used to be four. It's one of the reasons
why I feel like you kind of got to throw
asterisk next to some of these stats, because when guys
are playing college for six or seven years and they
have all these years of eligibilities that are accounting for
their cumultive stats, they're not all the same folks. I
hate to break that to you, Like you can't look
at a guy who played college for six years and go, oh, yeah,
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look what he threw for. It's like, well, yeah, he
played for six years. You know, it's not quite the same.
But the point is, you know, once they're done playing,
hopefully there's some pro post career player benefits as well
at some point. At least that's how I would see it.
I mean, the structure is gonna be very similar to
the nfl PA at least for football, or the NBA
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Players Union as well. I would think when it's all
said and done, I would imagine it's going in that direction.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
It's just so much that's going to have to happen,
and how does it happen? How is there any unforeseen
Like if if were you, what would you think could
be an unforced foreseen type of glitch or snag that
could take place in terms of getting things where.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
They're stable a stabilized.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
System, Like is there another ad Obannon case that we're
not thinking about or seeing. I can recall back to
the beginning when that came out and that filing took place,
people were kind of shrugging it off and laughing at
it Q like they weren't taking that that seriously, and
then all of a sudden it's like wait, wait, wait,
I can recall people, Oh, he's a car salesman. No, no, no,
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he's broke, he needs money. I can remember the things
that were being said about ed Obannon. So it clearly
stated or or kind of established that people didn't see
or understand it in the way of which it ended
up unfolding and creating and causing to where we are
today presently. Is there any is there anything else that
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comes up, like, can you think of something that may
be yeah, me.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
To me, to me, it'll be surrounding around I think
the educational component. That's that's where I feel like there'll
be a sticking point. I think Title nine and the
educational component are what's going to be tough to figure out.
And people think it's simple, but it's not. I mean,
and you've brought it up before. You know, semesters versus quarters.
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You know how a lot of those credits transfer, how
they don't if that place role in the eligibility of
a player, how they go about figuring that out. I
mean title nine, for example, I've said this before. You know,
we all know there's gonna be revenue sharing with the
House NCAA settlement, but we don't know how to be
divvied up. Is it going to be equal for both
men and women? So if you have let's say, twenty
million for round numbers, men sports get ten, women's sports
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get ten, or is that not going to be the case?
Are you going to mandate or dictate to schools, you know,
how much they can spend on what sports? Are you
going to you know, basically say no, you have complete
autonomy to choose how you want to spend that money,
but you have to probably provide the same amount of
opportunities for men and women, and how you're constructing, you know,
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what they're doing to earn this right. So there's all
sorts of different, you know, ways this can be constructed.
But I think also could you could find issues with
But that's for someone smarter than me. I think it's
I think it's a step in the right direction to
see that there's a sense of urgency at least from
some entity, whether it's the government or anyone else for
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that matter. But I do still feel like it's a
long road ahead before we're going to be able to
find a solution for where we're at in college sports.
So that's just me though.
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Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports and an analyst
for CBS Sports HQ, The One Only Pete Prisco, Pete,
how are we doing this morning?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
I was trying to figure out which.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
One of you two was going to come in and
out of the break. I couldn't figure that out.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Oh, Q runs the show when Jonas is out. I just,
you know, I'm just part of the show, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
I'm just You're just part.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
You're just there for the check side kick.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I'm just here, Pete, I just you know, I just
watch everybody's back. You know.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
That's all chaperone.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
You're like, hey, Pete, bodyguard, you're the bodyguard.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
That's yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Good. I'd like to vie with my bodyguard.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Hey, you trying to get away from this so quick?
Let this bed ask you questions.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
We don't have as much as we normally have, so
I want to get right into it. And here's the
thing is, as you know, LeVar Pete's the mayor of Jacksonville.
So when Dave Whydell comes out, it's just a strong
take on Mason Ram which I assume Pete's heard. I
have to get Pete's opinion on the whole situation.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
What was his take?
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I didn't see why he didn't didn't hear do.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
We have a cute up?
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Do we play the sound?
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Play the sound?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I'd love to see Travis Hunter there, not for the
reasons of the Jaguars need a player like Travis Hunter
with the swager. No, no, no, no, one need guys
that can play football. And I'll say this, I watched
the highlight film of Will Campbell today. The LSU lineman
that seems to be able to play almost any position.
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Doesn't have the that they talked about long arms like
I probably had or Ben Coleman or Biselli did, but
he can play football. Mason Graham had two outstanding games
this year, had issues throughout his most important collegiate football season,
and I would never never risk a fifth pick overall
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on a player like Mason Graham.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Wow, even though we could use.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
To help an interior defensive line.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Wow. And your thoughts well, First off, Dave why Dell
had did have long argue with a tall center, but
he stood straight up and got blown in the backfield
a bunch, which is why he never liked me because
I used to write about it a lot.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
No, I like Dave David good dude.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
But seriously, look, there are concerns about Mason Graham. I mean,
I'll be honest about it.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
You look at him.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
He's not a big guy. He is on the ground
a lot. You know. Look, he's got great hands because
he loved the game. I mean, that's that's another you know,
you hear that from Scott. I don't know if that's true,
but I've heard that. And so there are concerns about him.
And so if you're picking him at number five, you
want to slam dunk pick, and I don't think he's
a slam dunk pick.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
I would take that.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
I would take the linebacker from Georgia before I would
take him.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
I'll be out.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Dalen Walker.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, he's nice, Pete. Just just looking at how we
had a long conversation this uh, this morning, the first
the first segment of the show, actually, I believe where
we were discussing the Giants bringing in Shador Sanders for
a workout, and I think we both agreed that this
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was late in the game to bring in a guy
for a private workout, and we had our theories as
to maybe what it could be as to why they've
brought him in. Do you have any theories on why
the Giants would bring in Shador Sanders this late or
or should I say this close to the draft being
next week?
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Yeah, here, here's what it is. And I talked to
some guys in the league about it yesterday. It's let's
see if we can save our jobs evaluation. That's what
this is. That's exactly what it is. Let's see if
we can save our jobs. Because let's be real, if
they play with Jamis Winston and Russell Wilson next year,
they're gone, all of them. James gone, Davil's probably gone.
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And so if you look at it from that standpoint, hey,
if you draft the young quarterback and you put him
in maybe four or five games in and he plays
well down the stretch, but you don't make the playoffs,
and everybody goes, well, why would we want to make
another change. He's just learned the offense, so why change
it on him? So maybe they all keep their jobs.
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That's what this reeks to me, and that's what people
in the league have told me. That's what they see
it as as well.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
So they might take Shador Sanders at three, Well, why
would you.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Go back and do a reevaluation on him if you're
not going to consider taking him there?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
And again, I mean I tend to agree with you,
I agree like, but I mean that is that's wow.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So this is let me provide some contact because Mike
Tannembaum through the South this morning, and his insight is
when this happens so late in the process, either there's
a big disagreement in the building on their evaluation or
they're reacting to new information. And so I throughout the theory,
and there's been a report that there's a thought that
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Sanders may slide. And so if you found a team
that presumably if it went cam Ward Travis Hunter, they
would be targeting ab Dua Carter, who's the best edge
rusher in this class, and you could trade back still
accomplish what you're talking about, and yet get more draft capital.
Wouldn't that be the best scenario for the Giants since
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there's not necessarily a huge need for them to have
Abduall Carter.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Correct, Yeah, you're evaluating. There's also the possibility you want
to be fly it slid way down and you wanted
to come back in to get them. Brady, there's also
that possibility if you're drafted.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
So if he drafted.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Carter at three and he slid all the way down
into the team late teens in the twenties, and say
the Steelers passed on them, then maybe you'd want to
go back in and get them there. And so there's
that possibility.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
So, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
But again, they have a chance to save their jobs
if they draft the young quarterback. They do not save
their jobs if they don't.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Okay, that's reality of it.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Okay, but that never works, Pete, Like.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
I'm not saying it works. I'm not saying it works,
but but but just open that situation. What are you
doing if you're Joe Shane, what are you doing? You're
gone after the season, no matter what. If you play
with Wilson in Winston, can I can.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I throw this out there then, because you could make
the case that he's gone no matter what. And it
had everything to do with dating back to their decision
not to pick up the fifth year old Daniel Jones
and instead then end up signing him to a long
term deal, and franchise is tagging Saquon Barkley, which snowballed
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into letting Barkley go to the Eagles. He has an
incredible year, they win a Super Bowl, and they're right
in the division. Like I think the writing is already
on the wall.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Can from that the.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Writings on the wall, But why would you do something
to try and change the writing and race it a
little bit? I mean, because.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
He's not.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
But what if he ended up being Jade Daniels and
he saved their secrets?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah? That that's that's always what if? Right?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well as if he were turning the second company of
Danny Marino, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And who.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Was Yeah, he would have been in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Probably not. You have two short of arms and one
as long as Dave's. So here's why I say that
this isn't just a Joe Shane decision, as I think
you know by this point, ownership plays a role in
this ownership is going to be a part of that
decision where it's not just like Shane taking the.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Blame for it like they're they're all a part of it.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
So, but you the thing last year, the ownership wanted
a keepsake on Bartley and Jane didn't and who went out.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Well, I don't know that they wanted to keep them.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I think they wanted to keep them for the right price,
and then you know it didn't work out with how they.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
End up handling it.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Yeah, but Brady, look, there's there's obvious reasons why you
go back and re evaluate a guy and go meet
with them.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Sure, well I was gonna ask you.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
You outlined a few of them, and I can get there.
The one is going back in late. But what you
didn't Mentionine you met somebody coming up. And the other
one is paving your ass, And I mean it's a
distinct possibility you might be able to save your own
hands if you can keep raft.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The kids the white right, And that's assuming that he
even gets a chance to play. I was more going
to point out the fact of how late this is
in the process, Like, I don't think people understand that
this is very atypical for a team to take a
look at a player and a private workout.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
This laid into it right like he's had his pro day.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You've had plenty of time at this point, So I mean,
is this not abnormal and you've covered the NFL.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
Forever, Yes, it's abnormal. It is definitely abnormal. But these
so many things get.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Later and later.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
And look, we had one yesterday, We had Will Johnson
to have his workout as an injury reading. It's getting
later and.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Later in the process.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
So yeah, but it is abnormal. You know, again, what
we're seeing is a case of quarterback panic. Quarterback panic
across the board. Everybody's panicking to get the guy, and
they're all getting overdrafted. They got overdrafted. They get overdrafted
all the time, and it's going to continue until you
saw but you got to keep trying to hit it.
And and that's what you're saying, and so there's a
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little bit of panic in this case as well.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Pete, do you have an issue with Shador Sanders getting
his number retired at Colorado?
Speaker 8 (25:44):
Well, I mean he did win eight games or something,
didn't he I mean, did he didn't? Did he do that?
I mean what have they retired numbered? Have they retired
numbers from the team that won the national championship back
in the day. I don't even know that did did they?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
They are? They're the six, They're Travis and Welton are
five and six. I don't I don't know if.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
It's should he should have his number retired? Okay than Cordell.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Str Yes coming out has more accolades. He's got more
accolades than Cordell Stewart got more.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
He's got more, He's got Sanders has more attention because
he was beyond Son. Really, you know, didn't you just
Colorado did win a national championship? And I don't know
if any of those guys numbers are retired, to.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Be honest, the people who are retired are Bobby Anderson,
who played quarterbacks Bobby.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
And by the way, the bully in the movie One
on One. You got to look it up, but I
actually had beers with Bobby Anderson once upon a time.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Go ahead, Okay, that's great.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Rareshaun Salam which heisman tropf you wont you'd expect that
they got Byron Wizard White the half back, which obviously
I don't know, you weren't alive.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
That long, Pete, But I wasn't alive for that.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Now he was a consensus all American and then Joe Romig.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
American.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
Yeah, so I don't think it. Salam I don't think
was on that national championship team. So I don't think
they have I think Eric the Enemy was the running
back on that.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I don't think was that. Darian Hagen and the Enemy.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Yeah, yeah, Alfred Williams and guys like that. I don't
think they have guys from that national championship team. Their
numbers are retired. But meanwhile, she Door Sanders with his
eight wins is retired.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Don't get it, Pete.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
While we're in in college, let me ask you about
the Tennessee situation.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
What's it?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Has been a hot button topic that that's been out
there and there's a lot of differing, you know, opinions
on it.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
What what?
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
What's your take on it?
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (27:52):
Man, if you're a kid, you try and get everything
you can. I don't think he handled it very well.
I think the father's way too involved. And here's the
other part of it. If he gave him four millillion dollars,
that's about a million dollars for every touchdown. He threw
against a good team last year, so I think he's
I mean, the price is a little high for that guy,
and it's just a it's a bad look for college Look, look,
I love the game of college football. I think we're
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heading in a bad direction here. I just don't think.
I think the fans are going to be the ones
that are going to be cheated ultimately out of this.
It's going to be the same ten teams that are
in the mix every year. If you have a kid
that you watch, like, for example, if there's a kid
that you know when a kid used to come in
a Notre Dame back in the day, bratty he was.
He's a freshman, he's going to be there for four years,
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probably maybe three, but four or five. It's depending, you know,
the threat shirgul and everything. And so your fans could go, Okay,
I like this kid. We recruited him, I followed him
in recruiting. And then he's a sophomore, he plays a
little bit. All my kids like him, and then he's
a junior and he's starting and we really like him,
and look, we're growing together, and there's a you know,
there's none of that anymore. There's none of that anymore.
And I think they're cheating the sport that way.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I mean that that's an issue.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's an issue for the transfer portal though, you know,
like I mean, correct, it's not paying these kids, that's
not the issue.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Yeah, but but Brady paying him with the transfer portal
is the issue, if.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
You can correct.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
But here's what I'm saying, Pete.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Here's what I'm saying is if you take away the
transfer portal, you're not gonna have an issue with paying them.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
That is what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
But the transfer portal, whether you're paying them or not,
would allow a kid to kind of move around freely
as many times.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Okay, I get it. Okay, here's the other part of that.
This kid says, Okay, I played well enough, I want
more money. How about what he doesn't play well enough?
Do you cut his money? Do they do that?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, they actually can't do that. And they have done that.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
Yeah, hey have they've cut kids money? But then they transfer, right,
But if you can't transfer, then it becomes the problem.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Right, Well, no, not really. If they're not playing, what
does it matter if.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
You eliminate the transfer portal the way it is set
up right now, then you can still play the players
and within within reason, and it would be fine. I
would agree with you. I'm okay with saying that I'm
paying the players.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
I have no problem with Pete.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's free agency.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Like, why do we act like the transfer portal, which
should be a set window late in the spring, only
have one and make that your free agency period?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
That's what it is, like, Like, why.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Do we act like this doesn't already exist in the
NFL and you can't replicate that in college?
Speaker 8 (30:15):
Well, I mean yeah, but now they have two periods? Right?
Speaker 7 (30:18):
Is in the two or three?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And I'm saying get rid of the one that's that
occurs in December to January. Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
But it's also the sport has become nothing but the top.
That's three real, It's gonna be the big ten in
the Sea.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, but dude, hold on.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Arizona State hasn't been good. They made the playoff this year,
SMU made the playoff this year. Boise got a bustable
for the next We're gonna find out.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It was the first year of the expended Playoff.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Peap Brady, if I ask you, if I ask you,
certainty ten years from now, Ohio State's consistently in the playoff,
or Arizona State is consistently in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Which one are you going to answer, Pete, It's easily
Ohio State. But by the way, that's been the case
before the playoff, before he had nil, before you had
any of it, no offense. Arizona State's not a blue
blood in football.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
There were other.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
Ways to pay players back in the day too, Let's
be real.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Okay, but like Arizona State apparently never has so.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
Like what we tell you, right, they don't pay en off.
I get it.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
I understand.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
You're too cheap as an alumnus, you're a booster. You
don't do anything.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
Yeah, I went to the game. I went to the game.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah that's what you did. You said, raw, raw. You
probably booed the team half the time anyway, knowing.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
You no, well I was, I was.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You're like my dad. Just like my dad. You guys
are all pessimists. Every every time something bad happens, all
they're gonna lose. There, here we go again. Like you
guys have those attitude. That's your that's your generation.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
I didn't like fourth and thirteen blitz. I can say that.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, but that's also because you're a cat guy. You know,
if you're a dog guy, you blitzed in those situations.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
No, they showed blitz call time out and then they
did the same exact blits that I didn't like. So
that was I don't mind blitzing, but not in that situation.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Cat guy, I'm just saying, you're not a dog guy.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
I am a guy, you know, like dog up in
the backyard and make you smell like skuk.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Wow, you just got bullied.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
You just got you just got bullied and owned back
Q and you want to come my way.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I just sat here and listen to y'all and you
want to bring that my weight like that.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
You know, your random shots at me they're not well received,
Pete like they're they're not.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
That is not okay.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
I'm waiting. You know what I'm waiting for.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
I'm waiting for give me one tan concept, give me
one can comment.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
I know it's coming.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
I'm just waiting for it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Hey, and I like your base, tad buddy. I think
it fits you well. If it's the sicilian uh you
know roots, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
You're good, you have you you have a unique tan complexion,
is all I'll say.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
And you know what it worked for you, Pete.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
You got them broad shoulders and you got your your
your your you know your complexion.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
You're good.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I've never really hated on you. You just like hating
on me. And by the way, you do know that
you notice that Jonas Knox isn't here. You could be
going after Jonas right now versus like really putting your
your attentions actually me, you know, I'm just kiddingstanding.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
It is amazing he took time off. Isn't this like a.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Can you give Jonah some melotonin?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Pete? Can you pass him some melotone in his skin.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
He has?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah, you got enough to donate to him. He definitely
he looks like.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Is he somewhere getting some sun somewhere?
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I hope.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Actually, I'm not, Peter. We got to take a break.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But I'm not going to divulge what exactly he is
doing because I think I know we're going to talk
about it in the next segment.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We've got to finish.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Up, all right, guys, Hey, Pete, have a good one.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
You know I love you.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
I don't ever think i'd take anything personal. Pete. I do,
but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I don't get any love Pete.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
No, why are you going to take me in Pete's moment?
Speaker 6 (33:57):
God?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Dang, you let me and Pete I have a more
all right?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Well we do love you, though we did.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yeah, I think I speak for both of us like you.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
You know, that's the smooth operator, The one and only.
Pete Prisco joins us every Tuesday. H lebar, I'm excited
talking to on next Tuesday about the draft. That's gonna
be a ton of fun.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Be good.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yeah, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Hey, Lee, before we get to uh your partner in crime,
how many years young are you today?
Speaker 9 (34:34):
I am thirty six years young today.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
You're young?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I know, I know, LeVar, think back to when you're
at thirty six. All the shenanigans you're getting into.
Speaker 10 (34:45):
You guys were thrown men at thirty six. You guys
had how many kids?
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I had all of them about thirty six. Yeah, I
believe I see, but uh no, I didn't. I was
just having another one. Actually, if I have, that's going
to be ten yeah, yeah, thirty six. I was making
another one still, you'll operational?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, you're always practicing, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
No, No, that's you brother, never too late. I don't
do that practicing stuff no more, man, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Lee's just sleeping on the couch. I'm not sure what
practicing he's doing.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Yeah, what practicing are you doing?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Lee?
Speaker 10 (35:20):
I'm always practicing. I bet you to do with Jill,
I bet you he Todd hung up? I got to
call him back.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Hold up?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh, does Todd think that we need to get to
him right away?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Does Todd?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Does Todd realize that we've got to save some time
because we're gonna have to cut him off.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
At some point?
Speaker 9 (35:40):
He knows he knows formatics?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Does he?
Speaker 6 (35:43):
We got a hard out.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
He's also been up all night exactly.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
So that's what's what's a few more moments? Do we
have Todd Backley?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
We don't have Todd yet.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
They just pass out and no.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
We don't have them yet.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
No, No, I don't see if I'm we don't have them.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
We got him, We got him, We got him.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Wait are uh hap hap are you ready?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
You're there.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
Listening to leave.
Speaker 11 (36:25):
The laugh Happy birthday, leave, happy birthday, to leave, Happy birthday,
Happy bird.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
Birdday.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
We round of applause.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
That's pretty good, man.
Speaker 12 (36:58):
That's one breather at everybody, one breath.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, that was beautiful man, Todd. How's you're now going?
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Sewed up a bunch of songs to play? But legally
I don't think we can.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Yeah, okay, to play those songs.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
That's true, Yeah, Todd.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
I was told to stop having fun on myrin, which
is very I have not been acted that life.
Speaker 13 (37:27):
I haven't been drinking.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
I have to drink for Lee because Lee is working.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
That's right, it's true.
Speaker 9 (37:34):
I checked in on Todd, but I don't think Tod
noticed I checked in on him earlier.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
So you've been drinking for two Todd.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
I've been drinking for probably four, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Oh god, I heard it in one of So here's
the real question.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
What are you going to do today for Lee's birthday?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Well? I air fried these onion rings.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Save somebody.
Speaker 13 (37:57):
He says, he can't come over for another hour and
a half. I have to eat these onion rings, even.
Speaker 9 (38:07):
The cold one. If you save one for me, I'll
have one.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
No where does okay?
Speaker 6 (38:15):
I'm sorry? Sorry, no, go ahead, everyone, no, no, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
I saw Lee sent me a picture you guys got him?
It looks like booze and booze? What did you guys get?
Speaker 6 (38:29):
And lotion by the way, and.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
Elbows?
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Okay, so you know about the dry elbows too.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Oh yeah, he's he's got a little place that's going on.
It's okay, don't we all?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Is that actually what it is?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Lee?
Speaker 7 (38:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (38:49):
Yeah, I've had this forever.
Speaker 10 (38:51):
Uh and I the problem is is I get it
just to the point where it's about gone, and then
I just stop using it.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
We don't want to hear about this, Lee. I'm saving
you one onion ring.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Yeah, but isn't isn't Loraina hanging with you after the show?
Speaker 8 (39:10):
Well?
Speaker 12 (39:10):
Geez I gosh, I hope so because we last time
she came over to my thought. We taught her how
to play ping pong and she's a natural she is.
Speaker 9 (39:21):
Thank you so much, Todd. You are just the sweetest.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
So does that mean you're going to save more onion rings?
Maybe two onion rings now? Todd?
Speaker 7 (39:29):
Well, it's a fit.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
What Let me let me do something real quick, just
so for those who are listening, Todd is Lee's best friend,
and as lee delapsed birthday, that is thirty sixth birthday,
So you want to bring Todd on that correct? Let
me handle the show, all right, buddy, You just piped
down for a second because there are people who are
(39:54):
tweeting and asking who the hell is Todd? So I'm
trying to introduce your pal. Todd is a beautiful human being.
He's Lee's best friend, and he is an incredible singer.
And you can hear Hi about the good night?
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Do you want to give out the address of the
good night?
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Todd?
Speaker 13 (40:12):
One seven zero six Burbank Boulevard, No, Hollywood, California, nine
only six something like that.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (40:19):
That thing was slurred all the way up like I'm hearing.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Oh oh your mouth is full? Okay, wonderful?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
All right, real quick, Todd, what did you get Lee
for his birthday?
Speaker 7 (40:34):
Well, if he hurries up, maybe an onion ring?
Speaker 9 (40:37):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
And then last question, Todd, last question, will his lady
friend be joining you guys after the show?
Speaker 6 (40:45):
How you read my mind?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (40:47):
God, this is the good one.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
And I hear that question one more time.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Please, Will Lee's lady friend be joining him after the
show today when you guys hang out?
Speaker 9 (40:57):
Yeah, and that's okay Todd's answer.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I think I think that's the answer.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Yeah, there's an owl in here.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
One, Todd, Thank you so much for calling it. Do
you want to serenade Lee one last time before I
let you go.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
To Happy.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
You guys can hang up on me anytime.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Oh boy, that's Todd Lee's best friend again, beautiful human being.
I can only imagine you and him on Bourbon Street together.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
That would have been a disaster.
Speaker 9 (41:42):
Huh Oh, we would tear that place down, burn it.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Why didn't he come visit during Super Bowl week? We
would have made all the sense in the world.
Speaker 10 (41:49):
I offered him to. You know that I had an
extra you know, extra room for him.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
But yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
But you have an extra room.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
Well, I'm just saying I can.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
You know I can make it too, because we paid
for his food all week, Like you had enough to
spair to bring Todd in, you know, stay with him.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I wish I could say I paid for all these drinks,
but I'm pretty sure he snucked out of the bar
a number.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Of times and kept drinking without us. That's true.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
That was when he went to the Highland wolf that
was called Holland Wolf.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
Yeah, that place is great. Go see the helland Wolf.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
There you go.
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
We've got some some biz nass to get to and
it starts off with the US Senate. Are they coming
to the rescue of the NCAA. A. Well, we've got
five Senators Richard Blumenthal, Jerry Moran, Corey Booker, Chris Coons,
and Ted Cruz that met several times in recent weeks
in connection with the potential bill. Now, the bill, if
(00:35):
it moves forward, it's expected to have three major components.
And these three major components are important because they basically
help college football get back to some sort of foundation
and structure, so we're not dealing with a lot of
what we're hearing, for example, with the nico Io Maliava situation.
So the first would be a federal preemption of any
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state based nil bill bill. Well, what that essentially means
is the federal law will rule over state law. The
second would be a declaration that athletes are students and
not employees, which is interesting and key in all of this,
and I think it's key for keeping the academic component
as part of how they're able to participate. Third, a
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limited anti trust exemption that would allow the nc DOUBLEA
and major conferences to enforce eligibility and transfer rules without
fear or liability. And that's probably the most important because
whether it's the NCAA and it's interesting how this is
worded and major conferences, because the reality is the power
(01:41):
for conferences that exist control college football and that's really
the biggest bread winner, moneymaker, however you want to phrase it.
The NCAA cares more about the college basketball term. That's
how they line their pockets. So the third piece is
the biggest. Now, look, some people would suggest, hey, man,
(02:03):
it's probably not a good thing for the government to
get involved, like usually doesn't make things more efficient, usually
doesn't work out well. But at this point, it feels
like the schools are hesitant to take control. The NCAA
is scared they're just gonna get sued again, and with
a Nino Supreme Court decision, you can understand that. So
(02:28):
you know, look, universities could always unionize and they can
impose restrictions in this hypothetical world we're talking about, but
the reality is is it's probably tough to do. And
so look if this goes through, I still think it
will be tested in the courts. I still think that
be some players who feel like they are limited if
(02:51):
there is antitrust exemption provided to the NCAA, because really
that's going to limit some of these players in the
ability to maximize their market value. So even though this
it feels like we're heading in the right direction, and
maybe there's a federal bills to be passed to help
calm this down. Ultimately, remember you know we've got Congress, okay,
(03:12):
the legislative branch, they're the ones that make the bills.
And then you have the judicial branch. Okay, they interpret
the law to resolve disputes and then ensure justice.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So they will potentially have.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
To see a case that's going to come about to
decide whether or it's just how this is being handled.
At least that's my interpretation where things are going either way.
Do you feel like this is a step in the
right direction, Bar or do you feel like this is
only going to make things more messy.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I think whether it's in the right direction or or not,
it's still gonna get messy.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I don't think there's any I don't think there's any
possible way to avoid mess because it's almost like, you
know what this feels like. I guess I try to
give good analogies. I mean, maybe this is a good one,
maybe it's not. We'll see where we go.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's like heading into.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Heading into a body of water that can't handle the
depth and the size of an ocean liner. But instead
of plotting it out and planning and knowing right when
to slow that cruise liner down so that you don't
have any mishaps of it, you know, getting you know,
(04:34):
caught up in into the bottom of the ocean because
it's too close to the shore. They they threw caution
to the wind, and now you have a cruise liner
that is all the way up on the beach and
maybe even in parts of the resort that's on the beach.
(04:54):
Q So I feel like this has been so poorly
managed and so poorly handled in the years prior. How
long has this ad Obanon case been going on for
It's been going on a long, long, long time. The
minute that gained any type of momentum, the bodies that
(05:15):
be the universities, the NCAA government, all these different entities
that are connected to college athletics should have been figuring
out what is the.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Structure moving forward, So.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
They are so far behind that no matter good steps
forward or not, it's not going to be enough. And
I don't know how long that timeframe is that actually
corrects puts enough safeguards in place to stabilize. I'll say this,
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if you get to the point, if they get this
thing to the point of where the TV dollars now
start to no, I don't even want to do that
because I just I just think that there's always going
to be greed. There's always going to be people want
and more, and you just need the perimeter of the
parameters and the different safeguards in place, the structure in
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place so that this can be handled in a business manner.
Stop saying that they're student athletes. They are student athletes,
but you cannot sacrifice the employee aspect of this anymore
like that. That sounds a little bit like disenchanting, disconnected.
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Maybe you got to accept the reality of it is
is that these guys are working. You worked when you
played for Notre Dame. I worked when I played for
Penn State. Anybody who has played a college Neward, I
did work.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I got an hourly wage at the Office of News
and Information.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
You did more, you did, you did more work.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, my off dose.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So I'd get a little, uh, a little bit of
that driving money some people will call pizza and beer money.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I used to so I used to use it. So
we had a great.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Little Italian spot on the south side of town called Brunos.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Shout out to Brunos.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
They used to have a buffet and I think they
charged like eight bucks ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It was all you could eat.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So I'd take the lineman there on Thursday nights and
we had a little set up upstairs. We had that
like that, you know, that Thursday night college football game
was on, and so I would literally take on and
Ryan Harris all right, who was my left tackle to
this day. And for anyone who knows him, and if
you see him, you can send this message to him.
I would eat him under the table with chicken palm.
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I would crush him and eat more chicken palm. He
would complain every single time that I must have fasted
the entire day.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I didn't eat. I saved up for this moment.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm not gonna tell him my secret, but I would
crush him in eating chicken pole.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Ya went with the big, the big chicken palms or
the little ones, and they gave you a whole bunch
of them.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They gave you the little Yeah they're little, You've got
a whole bunch of them.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And so I think I would probably you about eight
of those things.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
See, I like those those thin, big ones almost look
like small pieces of pizza. You know that they're like
just over the whole entire plate of chicken palm. That's
that's like my favorite.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
But I get no, it's all right.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I mean, I just think the point is is that
there's so much that has to be done at this
point that you're going to see a lot of casualties.
You're going to see a lot of mistakes. You're going
to see a lot of bad things happen before you
start to see good things happen. And I just wonder
how how long is that going to take and how
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much is it going to take to get college sports
more specifically, in my estimation, college football in a place
where it's stabilized, because it's not stable right now, and
a bill being passed, a couple of bills being past
is not going to change a structure that isn't in
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place to keep this thing moving and running in a
smooth manner without having young men connected to the game,
maybe even coaches, maybe even universities programs go unscathed. And
how things you know, play out and pan out right now.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So a couple things that are interesting, You're bout have
the Ed Obannon case. So the Edobannon I believe it
was the the EA Sports NCAA Basketball nine featuring a
virtual UCLA player matching his characteristics. And that's really what
I think drew his attention in wanting to file, so
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that this is back in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
He initially filed this, right, I.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Believe the trial started in twenty fourteen, and that is
where the initial findings. This is what gets really crazy,
all right, if people care about this stuff. US District
Court Judge Claudia Wilkin, Now that name should be familiar
to people because she's ultimately who ended up finding that
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the NCAA's amateurs and rules were unreasonable and I believe
awarded in the case of Obannon. It eventually was appealed
and the Supreme Court declined to hear the case. But
the reason why I bring up the judge because it
just so happens that Judge Claudia Wilkin is now presiding
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over the House NCAA settlement, So she not only has
played a huge role previously in that Obannon case, but
now she's handling this current case with the House NCAA settlement.
And I believe they actually sent through last night some
revisions to what the settlement will be, one of them
being that there was a question about roster limits. It
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doesn't look like the look like there'll be a change there,
but they're still trying to iron out what.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
The settlement will look like.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You know, what role, for example, collectives will have and
to what degree. Probably some issues surrounding Title nine still,
which is not a lot of clarity on what that
will look like. But the same Judge Claudia Wilkin will
impact college sports in a huge way forever.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Moving forward.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Now again going back to the five centers, the one
nice thing is you've got people from both sides of
the aisle. You have Democrats, you have Republicans that are
working together try to find a solution. That's how government
should work. Whether or not that'll last, we'll have to
wait and see. My concern and my worry is is
it still doesn't ultimately protect the student athlete because with
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these anti trust exemptions that will allow the NCAA and
major conferences to enforce eligibility and transfer rules, it's all
going to be in favor of the schools. It's going
to be a similar structure, just with revenue sharing for
the student athlete. And then maybe people want that, but
I'm kind of personally looking at saying I'd rather these
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young men and women find a way of unionizing so
they have a little more of a fair opportunity in
bargaining for a collective bargaining you know, agreement with some
sort of CBA, so they have better you know, for example,
more fair pay potentially, you know, after they're done playing
for these schools, depending on the eligibility limits. There's something
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on the table now for five years of eligibility. You know,
it used to be four. It's one of the reasons
why I feel like you kind of got to throw
asterisk next to some of these stats, because when guys
are playing college for six or seven years and they
have all these years of eligibilities that are accounting for
their cumultive stats, they're not all the same folks. I
hate to break that to you, Like you can't look
at a guy who played college for six years and go, oh, yeah,
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look what he threw for. It's like, well, yeah, he
played for six years. You know, it's not quite the same.
But the point is, you know, once they're done playing,
hopefully there's some pro post career player benefits as well
at some point. At least that's how I would see it.
I mean, the structure is gonna be very similar to
the nfl PA at least for football, or the NBA
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Players Union as well. I would think when it's all
said and done, I would imagine it's going in that direction.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
It's just so much that's going to have to happen,
and how does it happen? How is there any unforeseen
Like if if were you, what would you think could
be an unforced foreseen type of glitch or snag that
could take place in terms of getting things where.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
They're stable a stabilized.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
System, Like is there another ad Obannon case that we're
not thinking about or seeing. I can recall back to
the beginning when that came out and that filing took place,
people were kind of shrugging it off and laughing at
it Q like they weren't taking that that seriously, and
then all of a sudden it's like wait, wait, wait,
I can recall people, Oh, he's a car salesman. No, no, no,
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he's broke, he needs money. I can remember the things
that were being said about ed Obannon. So it clearly
stated or or kind of established that people didn't see
or understand it in the way of which it ended
up unfolding and creating and causing to where we are
today presently. Is there any is there anything else that
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comes up, like, can you think of something that may
be yeah, me.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
To me, to me, it'll be surrounding around I think
the educational component. That's that's where I feel like there'll
be a sticking point. I think Title nine and the
educational component are what's going to be tough to figure out.
And people think it's simple, but it's not. I mean,
and you've brought it up before. You know, semesters versus quarters.
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You know how a lot of those credits transfer, how
they don't if that place role in the eligibility of
a player, how they go about figuring that out. I
mean title nine, for example, I've said this before. You know,
we all know there's gonna be revenue sharing with the
House NCAA settlement, but we don't know how to be
divvied up. Is it going to be equal for both
men and women? So if you have let's say, twenty
million for round numbers, men sports get ten, women's sports
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get ten, or is that not going to be the case?
Are you going to mandate or dictate to schools, you know,
how much they can spend on what sports? Are you
going to you know, basically say no, you have complete
autonomy to choose how you want to spend that money,
but you have to probably provide the same amount of
opportunities for men and women, and how you're constructing, you know,
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what they're doing to earn this right. So there's all
sorts of different, you know, ways this can be constructed.
But I think also could you could find issues with
But that's for someone smarter than me. I think it's
I think it's a step in the right direction to
see that there's a sense of urgency at least from
some entity, whether it's the government or anyone else for
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that matter. But I do still feel like it's a
long road ahead before we're going to be able to
find a solution for where we're at in college sports.
So that's just me though.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
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Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports and an analyst
for CBS Sports HQ, The One Only Pete Prisco, Pete,
how are we doing this morning?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
I was trying to figure out which.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
One of you two was going to come in and
out of the break. I couldn't figure that out.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Oh, Q runs the show when Jonas is out. I just,
you know, I'm just part of the show, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
I'm just You're just part.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
You're just there for the check side kick.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I'm just here, Pete, I just you know, I just
watch everybody's back. You know.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
That's all chaperone.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
You're like, hey, Pete, bodyguard, you're the bodyguard.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
That's yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Good. I'd like to vie with my bodyguard.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Hey, you trying to get away from this so quick?
Let this bed ask you questions.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
We don't have as much as we normally have, so
I want to get right into it. And here's the
thing is, as you know, LeVar Pete's the mayor of Jacksonville.
So when Dave Whydell comes out, it's just a strong
take on Mason Ram which I assume Pete's heard. I
have to get Pete's opinion on the whole situation.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
What was his take?
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I didn't see why he didn't didn't hear do.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
We have a cute up?
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Do we play the sound?
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Play the sound?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I'd love to see Travis Hunter there, not for the
reasons of the Jaguars need a player like Travis Hunter
with the swager. No, no, no, no, one need guys
that can play football. And I'll say this, I watched
the highlight film of Will Campbell today. The LSU lineman
that seems to be able to play almost any position.
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Doesn't have the that they talked about long arms like
I probably had or Ben Coleman or Biselli did, but
he can play football. Mason Graham had two outstanding games
this year, had issues throughout his most important collegiate football season,
and I would never never risk a fifth pick overall
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on a player like Mason Graham.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Wow, even though we could use.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
To help an interior defensive line.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Wow. And your thoughts well, First off, Dave why Dell
had did have long argue with a tall center, but
he stood straight up and got blown in the backfield
a bunch, which is why he never liked me because
I used to write about it a lot.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
No, I like Dave David good dude.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
But seriously, look, there are concerns about Mason Graham. I mean,
I'll be honest about it.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
You look at him.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
He's not a big guy. He is on the ground
a lot. You know. Look, he's got great hands because
he loved the game. I mean, that's that's another you know,
you hear that from Scott. I don't know if that's true,
but I've heard that. And so there are concerns about him.
And so if you're picking him at number five, you
want to slam dunk pick, and I don't think he's
a slam dunk pick.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
I would take that.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
I would take the linebacker from Georgia before I would
take him.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
I'll be out.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Dalen Walker.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, he's nice, Pete. Just just looking at how we
had a long conversation this uh, this morning, the first
the first segment of the show, actually, I believe where
we were discussing the Giants bringing in Shador Sanders for
a workout, and I think we both agreed that this
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was late in the game to bring in a guy
for a private workout, and we had our theories as
to maybe what it could be as to why they've
brought him in. Do you have any theories on why
the Giants would bring in Shador Sanders this late or
or should I say this close to the draft being
next week?
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Yeah, here, here's what it is. And I talked to
some guys in the league about it yesterday. It's let's
see if we can save our jobs evaluation. That's what
this is. That's exactly what it is. Let's see if
we can save our jobs. Because let's be real, if
they play with Jamis Winston and Russell Wilson next year,
they're gone, all of them. James gone, Davil's probably gone.
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And so if you look at it from that standpoint, hey,
if you draft the young quarterback and you put him
in maybe four or five games in and he plays
well down the stretch, but you don't make the playoffs,
and everybody goes, well, why would we want to make
another change. He's just learned the offense, so why change
it on him? So maybe they all keep their jobs.
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That's what this reeks to me, and that's what people
in the league have told me. That's what they see
it as as well.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
So they might take Shador Sanders at three, Well, why
would you.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Go back and do a reevaluation on him if you're
not going to consider taking him there?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
And again, I mean I tend to agree with you,
I agree like, but I mean that is that's wow.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So this is let me provide some contact because Mike
Tannembaum through the South this morning, and his insight is
when this happens so late in the process, either there's
a big disagreement in the building on their evaluation or
they're reacting to new information. And so I throughout the theory,
and there's been a report that there's a thought that
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Sanders may slide. And so if you found a team
that presumably if it went cam Ward Travis Hunter, they
would be targeting ab Dua Carter, who's the best edge
rusher in this class, and you could trade back still
accomplish what you're talking about, and yet get more draft capital.
Wouldn't that be the best scenario for the Giants since
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there's not necessarily a huge need for them to have
Abduall Carter.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Correct, Yeah, you're evaluating. There's also the possibility you want
to be fly it slid way down and you wanted
to come back in to get them. Brady, there's also
that possibility if you're drafted.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
So if he drafted.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Carter at three and he slid all the way down
into the team late teens in the twenties, and say
the Steelers passed on them, then maybe you'd want to
go back in and get them there. And so there's
that possibility.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
So, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
But again, they have a chance to save their jobs
if they draft the young quarterback. They do not save
their jobs if they don't.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Okay, that's reality of it.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Okay, but that never works, Pete, Like.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
I'm not saying it works. I'm not saying it works,
but but but just open that situation. What are you
doing if you're Joe Shane, what are you doing? You're
gone after the season, no matter what. If you play
with Wilson in Winston, can I can.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I throw this out there then, because you could make
the case that he's gone no matter what. And it
had everything to do with dating back to their decision
not to pick up the fifth year old Daniel Jones
and instead then end up signing him to a long
term deal, and franchise is tagging Saquon Barkley, which snowballed
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into letting Barkley go to the Eagles. He has an
incredible year, they win a Super Bowl, and they're right
in the division. Like I think the writing is already
on the wall.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Can from that the.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Writings on the wall, But why would you do something
to try and change the writing and race it a
little bit? I mean, because.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
He's not.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
But what if he ended up being Jade Daniels and
he saved their secrets?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah? That that's that's always what if? Right?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well as if he were turning the second company of
Danny Marino, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And who.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Was Yeah, he would have been in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Probably not. You have two short of arms and one
as long as Dave's. So here's why I say that
this isn't just a Joe Shane decision, as I think
you know by this point, ownership plays a role in
this ownership is going to be a part of that
decision where it's not just like Shane taking the.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Blame for it like they're they're all a part of it.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
So, but you the thing last year, the ownership wanted
a keepsake on Bartley and Jane didn't and who went out.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Well, I don't know that they wanted to keep them.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I think they wanted to keep them for the right price,
and then you know it didn't work out with how they.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
End up handling it.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Yeah, but Brady, look, there's there's obvious reasons why you
go back and re evaluate a guy and go meet
with them.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Sure, well I was gonna ask you.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
You outlined a few of them, and I can get there.
The one is going back in late. But what you
didn't Mentionine you met somebody coming up. And the other
one is paving your ass, And I mean it's a
distinct possibility you might be able to save your own
hands if you can keep raft.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The kids the white right, And that's assuming that he
even gets a chance to play. I was more going
to point out the fact of how late this is
in the process, Like, I don't think people understand that
this is very atypical for a team to take a
look at a player and a private workout.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
This laid into it right like he's had his pro day.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You've had plenty of time at this point, So I mean,
is this not abnormal and you've covered the NFL.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
Forever, Yes, it's abnormal. It is definitely abnormal. But these
so many things get.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Later and later.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
And look, we had one yesterday, We had Will Johnson
to have his workout as an injury reading. It's getting
later and.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Later in the process.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
So yeah, but it is abnormal. You know, again, what
we're seeing is a case of quarterback panic. Quarterback panic
across the board. Everybody's panicking to get the guy, and
they're all getting overdrafted. They got overdrafted. They get overdrafted
all the time, and it's going to continue until you
saw but you got to keep trying to hit it.
And and that's what you're saying, and so there's a
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little bit of panic in this case as well.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Pete, do you have an issue with Shador Sanders getting
his number retired at Colorado?
Speaker 8 (25:44):
Well, I mean he did win eight games or something,
didn't he I mean, did he didn't? Did he do that?
I mean what have they retired numbered? Have they retired
numbers from the team that won the national championship back
in the day. I don't even know that did did they?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
They are? They're the six, They're Travis and Welton are
five and six. I don't I don't know if.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
It's should he should have his number retired? Okay than Cordell.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Str Yes coming out has more accolades. He's got more
accolades than Cordell Stewart got more.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
He's got more, He's got Sanders has more attention because
he was beyond Son. Really, you know, didn't you just
Colorado did win a national championship? And I don't know
if any of those guys numbers are retired, to.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Be honest, the people who are retired are Bobby Anderson,
who played quarterbacks Bobby.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
And by the way, the bully in the movie One
on One. You got to look it up, but I
actually had beers with Bobby Anderson once upon a time.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Go ahead, Okay, that's great.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Rareshaun Salam which heisman tropf you wont you'd expect that
they got Byron Wizard White the half back, which obviously
I don't know, you weren't alive.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
That long, Pete, But I wasn't alive for that.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Now he was a consensus all American and then Joe Romig.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
American.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
Yeah, so I don't think it. Salam I don't think
was on that national championship team. So I don't think
they have I think Eric the Enemy was the running
back on that.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I don't think was that. Darian Hagen and the Enemy.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Yeah, yeah, Alfred Williams and guys like that. I don't
think they have guys from that national championship team. Their
numbers are retired. But meanwhile, she Door Sanders with his
eight wins is retired.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Don't get it, Pete.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
While we're in in college, let me ask you about
the Tennessee situation.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
What's it?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Has been a hot button topic that that's been out
there and there's a lot of differing, you know, opinions
on it.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
What what?
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
What's your take on it?
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (27:52):
Man, if you're a kid, you try and get everything
you can. I don't think he handled it very well.
I think the father's way too involved. And here's the
other part of it. If he gave him four millillion dollars,
that's about a million dollars for every touchdown. He threw
against a good team last year, so I think he's
I mean, the price is a little high for that guy,
and it's just a it's a bad look for college Look, look,
I love the game of college football. I think we're
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heading in a bad direction here. I just don't think.
I think the fans are going to be the ones
that are going to be cheated ultimately out of this.
It's going to be the same ten teams that are
in the mix every year. If you have a kid
that you watch, like, for example, if there's a kid
that you know when a kid used to come in
a Notre Dame back in the day, bratty he was.
He's a freshman, he's going to be there for four years,
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probably maybe three, but four or five. It's depending, you know,
the threat shirgul and everything. And so your fans could go, Okay,
I like this kid. We recruited him, I followed him
in recruiting. And then he's a sophomore, he plays a
little bit. All my kids like him, and then he's
a junior and he's starting and we really like him,
and look, we're growing together, and there's a you know,
there's none of that anymore. There's none of that anymore.
And I think they're cheating the sport that way.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I mean that that's an issue.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's an issue for the transfer portal though, you know,
like I mean, correct, it's not paying these kids, that's
not the issue.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Yeah, but but Brady paying him with the transfer portal
is the issue, if.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
You can correct.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
But here's what I'm saying, Pete.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Here's what I'm saying is if you take away the
transfer portal, you're not gonna have an issue with paying them.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
That is what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
But the transfer portal, whether you're paying them or not,
would allow a kid to kind of move around freely
as many times.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Okay, I get it. Okay, here's the other part of that.
This kid says, Okay, I played well enough, I want
more money. How about what he doesn't play well enough?
Do you cut his money? Do they do that?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, they actually can't do that. And they have done that.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
Yeah, hey have they've cut kids money? But then they transfer, right,
But if you can't transfer, then it becomes the problem.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Right, Well, no, not really. If they're not playing, what
does it matter if.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
You eliminate the transfer portal the way it is set
up right now, then you can still play the players
and within within reason, and it would be fine. I
would agree with you. I'm okay with saying that I'm
paying the players.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
I have no problem with Pete.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's free agency.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Like, why do we act like the transfer portal, which
should be a set window late in the spring, only
have one and make that your free agency period?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
That's what it is, like, Like, why.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Do we act like this doesn't already exist in the
NFL and you can't replicate that in college?
Speaker 8 (30:15):
Well, I mean yeah, but now they have two periods? Right?
Speaker 7 (30:18):
Is in the two or three?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And I'm saying get rid of the one that's that
occurs in December to January. Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
But it's also the sport has become nothing but the top.
That's three real, It's gonna be the big ten in
the Sea.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, but dude, hold on.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Arizona State hasn't been good. They made the playoff this year,
SMU made the playoff this year. Boise got a bustable
for the next We're gonna find out.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It was the first year of the expended Playoff.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Peap Brady, if I ask you, if I ask you,
certainty ten years from now, Ohio State's consistently in the playoff,
or Arizona State is consistently in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Which one are you going to answer, Pete, It's easily
Ohio State. But by the way, that's been the case
before the playoff, before he had nil, before you had
any of it, no offense. Arizona State's not a blue
blood in football.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
There were other.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
Ways to pay players back in the day too, Let's
be real.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Okay, but like Arizona State apparently never has so.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
Like what we tell you, right, they don't pay en off.
I get it.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
I understand.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
You're too cheap as an alumnus, you're a booster. You
don't do anything.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
Yeah, I went to the game. I went to the game.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah that's what you did. You said, raw, raw. You
probably booed the team half the time anyway, knowing.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
You no, well I was, I was.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You're like my dad. Just like my dad. You guys
are all pessimists. Every every time something bad happens, all
they're gonna lose. There, here we go again. Like you
guys have those attitude. That's your that's your generation.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
I didn't like fourth and thirteen blitz. I can say that.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, but that's also because you're a cat guy. You know,
if you're a dog guy, you blitzed in those situations.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
No, they showed blitz call time out and then they
did the same exact blits that I didn't like. So
that was I don't mind blitzing, but not in that situation.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Cat guy, I'm just saying, you're not a dog guy.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
I am a guy, you know, like dog up in
the backyard and make you smell like skuk.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Wow, you just got bullied.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
You just got you just got bullied and owned back
Q and you want to come my way.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I just sat here and listen to y'all and you
want to bring that my weight like that.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
You know, your random shots at me they're not well received,
Pete like they're they're not.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
That is not okay.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
I'm waiting. You know what I'm waiting for.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
I'm waiting for give me one tan concept, give me
one can comment.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
I know it's coming.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
I'm just waiting for it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Hey, and I like your base, tad buddy. I think
it fits you well. If it's the sicilian uh you
know roots, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
You're good, you have you you have a unique tan complexion,
is all I'll say.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
And you know what it worked for you, Pete.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
You got them broad shoulders and you got your your
your your you know your complexion.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
You're good.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I've never really hated on you. You just like hating
on me. And by the way, you do know that
you notice that Jonas Knox isn't here. You could be
going after Jonas right now versus like really putting your
your attentions actually me, you know, I'm just kiddingstanding.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
It is amazing he took time off. Isn't this like a.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Can you give Jonah some melotonin?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Pete? Can you pass him some melotone in his skin.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
He has?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah, you got enough to donate to him. He definitely
he looks like.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Is he somewhere getting some sun somewhere?
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I hope.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Actually, I'm not, Peter. We got to take a break.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But I'm not going to divulge what exactly he is
doing because I think I know we're going to talk
about it in the next segment.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We've got to finish.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Up, all right, guys, Hey, Pete, have a good one.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
You know I love you.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
I don't ever think i'd take anything personal. Pete. I do,
but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I don't get any love Pete.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
No, why are you going to take me in Pete's moment?
Speaker 6 (33:57):
God?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Dang, you let me and Pete I have a more
all right?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Well we do love you, though we did.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yeah, I think I speak for both of us like you.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
You know, that's the smooth operator, The one and only.
Pete Prisco joins us every Tuesday. H lebar, I'm excited
talking to on next Tuesday about the draft. That's gonna
be a ton of fun.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Be good.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yeah, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
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Speaker 2 (34:29):
Hey, Lee, before we get to uh your partner in crime,
how many years young are you today?
Speaker 9 (34:34):
I am thirty six years young today.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
You're young?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I know, I know, LeVar, think back to when you're
at thirty six. All the shenanigans you're getting into.
Speaker 10 (34:45):
You guys were thrown men at thirty six. You guys
had how many kids?
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I had all of them about thirty six. Yeah, I
believe I see, but uh no, I didn't. I was
just having another one. Actually, if I have, that's going
to be ten yeah, yeah, thirty six. I was making
another one still, you'll operational?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, you're always practicing, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
No, No, that's you brother, never too late. I don't
do that practicing stuff no more, man, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Lee's just sleeping on the couch. I'm not sure what
practicing he's doing.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Yeah, what practicing are you doing?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Lee?
Speaker 10 (35:20):
I'm always practicing. I bet you to do with Jill,
I bet you he Todd hung up? I got to
call him back.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Hold up?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh, does Todd think that we need to get to
him right away?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Does Todd?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Does Todd realize that we've got to save some time
because we're gonna have to cut him off.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
At some point?
Speaker 9 (35:40):
He knows he knows formatics?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Does he?
Speaker 6 (35:43):
We got a hard out.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
He's also been up all night exactly.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
So that's what's what's a few more moments? Do we
have Todd Backley?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
We don't have Todd yet.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
They just pass out and no.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
We don't have them yet.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
No, No, I don't see if I'm we don't have them.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
We got him, We got him, We got him.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Wait are uh hap hap are you ready?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
You're there.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
Listening to leave.
Speaker 11 (36:25):
The laugh Happy birthday, leave, happy birthday, to leave, Happy birthday,
Happy bird.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
Birdday.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
We round of applause.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
That's pretty good, man.
Speaker 12 (36:58):
That's one breather at everybody, one breath.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, that was beautiful man, Todd. How's you're now going?
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Sewed up a bunch of songs to play? But legally
I don't think we can.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Yeah, okay, to play those songs.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
That's true, Yeah, Todd.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
I was told to stop having fun on myrin, which
is very I have not been acted that life.
Speaker 13 (37:27):
I haven't been drinking.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
I have to drink for Lee because Lee is working.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
That's right, it's true.
Speaker 9 (37:34):
I checked in on Todd, but I don't think Tod
noticed I checked in on him earlier.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
So you've been drinking for two Todd.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
I've been drinking for probably four, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Oh god, I heard it in one of So here's
the real question.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
What are you going to do today for Lee's birthday?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Well? I air fried these onion rings.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Save somebody.
Speaker 13 (37:57):
He says, he can't come over for another hour and
a half. I have to eat these onion rings, even.
Speaker 9 (38:07):
The cold one. If you save one for me, I'll
have one.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
No where does okay?
Speaker 6 (38:15):
I'm sorry? Sorry, no, go ahead, everyone, no, no, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
I saw Lee sent me a picture you guys got him?
It looks like booze and booze? What did you guys get?
Speaker 6 (38:29):
And lotion by the way, and.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
Elbows?
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Okay, so you know about the dry elbows too.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Oh yeah, he's he's got a little place that's going on.
It's okay, don't we all?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Is that actually what it is?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Lee?
Speaker 7 (38:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (38:49):
Yeah, I've had this forever.
Speaker 10 (38:51):
Uh and I the problem is is I get it
just to the point where it's about gone, and then
I just stop using it.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
We don't want to hear about this, Lee. I'm saving
you one onion ring.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Yeah, but isn't isn't Loraina hanging with you after the show?
Speaker 8 (39:10):
Well?
Speaker 12 (39:10):
Geez I gosh, I hope so because we last time
she came over to my thought. We taught her how
to play ping pong and she's a natural she is.
Speaker 9 (39:21):
Thank you so much, Todd. You are just the sweetest.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
So does that mean you're going to save more onion rings?
Maybe two onion rings now? Todd?
Speaker 7 (39:29):
Well, it's a fit.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
What Let me let me do something real quick, just
so for those who are listening, Todd is Lee's best friend,
and as lee delapsed birthday, that is thirty sixth birthday,
So you want to bring Todd on that correct? Let
me handle the show, all right, buddy, You just piped
down for a second because there are people who are
(39:54):
tweeting and asking who the hell is Todd? So I'm
trying to introduce your pal. Todd is a beautiful human being.
He's Lee's best friend, and he is an incredible singer.
And you can hear Hi about the good night?
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Do you want to give out the address of the
good night?
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Todd?
Speaker 13 (40:12):
One seven zero six Burbank Boulevard, No, Hollywood, California, nine
only six something like that.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (40:19):
That thing was slurred all the way up like I'm hearing.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Oh oh your mouth is full? Okay, wonderful?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
All right, real quick, Todd, what did you get Lee
for his birthday?
Speaker 7 (40:34):
Well, if he hurries up, maybe an onion ring?
Speaker 9 (40:37):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
And then last question, Todd, last question, will his lady
friend be joining you guys after the show?
Speaker 6 (40:45):
How you read my mind?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (40:47):
God, this is the good one.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
And I hear that question one more time.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Please, Will Lee's lady friend be joining him after the
show today when you guys hang out?
Speaker 9 (40:57):
Yeah, and that's okay Todd's answer.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I think I think that's the answer.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Yeah, there's an owl in here.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
One, Todd, Thank you so much for calling it. Do
you want to serenade Lee one last time before I
let you go.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
To Happy.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
You guys can hang up on me anytime.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Oh boy, that's Todd Lee's best friend again, beautiful human being.
I can only imagine you and him on Bourbon Street together.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
That would have been a disaster.
Speaker 9 (41:42):
Huh Oh, we would tear that place down, burn it.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Why didn't he come visit during Super Bowl week? We
would have made all the sense in the world.
Speaker 10 (41:49):
I offered him to. You know that I had an
extra you know, extra room for him.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
But yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
But you have an extra room.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
Well, I'm just saying I can.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
You know I can make it too, because we paid
for his food all week, Like you had enough to
spair to bring Todd in, you know, stay with him.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I wish I could say I paid for all these drinks,
but I'm pretty sure he snucked out of the bar
a number.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Of times and kept drinking without us. That's true.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
That was when he went to the Highland wolf that
was called Holland Wolf.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
Yeah, that place is great. Go see the helland Wolf.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
There you go.
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