May 5, 2025 • 40 mins
Sovereignty wins the Kentucky Derby but are horse real athletes? Andrew Berry says Deion Sadners had nothing to do with Shedeur’s slide in the Draft. Plus, Southwest vs JSX vs PJ’s and the FSR IR.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Can you bring us in to the show?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Broh, This sounds like the music you hear while you're
waiting in line to get.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Into a ride at Universal.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Lo.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
There do I see my father?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
Lo?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
There?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Do I see my mother, my brothers and my sisters?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Lo?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Do I see my line of my people back to
the beginning?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They do? They do call me? They bid me take
my place amongst them in.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
The halls of Valhalla, where the brave shall live forever.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
We're gonna have to listen to that every day.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Now, Yes, what is that? Yes? Where's it from? Huh?
Where's it from? Don't worry about it? What do you hear?
It's just a song. I mean it's a tune. It's different.
I like it, you know. Yeah? All right, Larina, where's
that from? What is that song for? Is it a James?
You're asking the wrong person. Well, you just had a
(01:45):
fudge sticle four in the morning.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
So you had a fudge sicle.
Speaker 8 (01:52):
And it was delicious. I hate it in about six minutes.
Pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What was the brand name of it? What's wrong? What
are you coffin like that?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
For Lee?
Speaker 8 (02:05):
He's choking on a fudgetacle? Good kind. Major used to
make really good fudgtacles.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You knowa Major? Hey what was he? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So she was just uh handling a fudgetacle like during
the break four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's wild handling one.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
What can't Loraina do?
Speaker 8 (02:30):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
She's got a mini pinata in studio? Does she does?
Speaker 8 (02:38):
But I can't whack it. I don't have a stick.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You are on a roll. You are totally on a
roll right now.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
And by the way, two pros and a cup of
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of the program.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
By the way, we.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Didn't mention the big event over the week or one
of the big events over the weekend, the Kentucky Derby.
We did have names in a hat that we drew
on Friday, Lee to lap. Did anybody win or even
come close to winning of the names selected?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
That?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's great?
Speaker 9 (03:20):
Well, I keep my role going of winning names out
of a hat.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
With East Avenue, who finished eighth, So that was the
closest we got to that win place or show are
you serious?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Eighth place?
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Wait? I thought I had them finishing at thirteenth.
Speaker 10 (03:33):
Yeah, I saw what you had there. I think those
were the unofficial results. The official results have East Avenue
as eighth, Testastic as tenth, Luxter Cafe at twelfth.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
The unofficial results were five horses off.
Speaker 11 (03:46):
Yeah, yes, twenty five?
Speaker 7 (03:49):
What all right?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah? I know, I know there were all of them?
Were we off? But we did?
Speaker 9 (03:54):
We did bring in the end here with Lorena and LeVar.
Speaker 10 (03:57):
Lorena's Flying Mihawk finished eighteenth and Levar's admired Daytona last
place nineteen sticks pick.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, technically I didn't pick it, Okay, I'm not LeVar.
Speaker 11 (04:09):
Here's what I don't understand either, is when I was
doing this the research for this, I guess the unofficial
results had admired Daytona at ninth, Like, how can you
go from top ten.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
To dead last?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I don't, I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Well, no, are you?
Speaker 10 (04:25):
Surely I'm looking at two different official results you know so.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well each other, so.
Speaker 10 (04:37):
Yeah these, Yes, you're right, the one official, but from
two different sources.
Speaker 11 (04:41):
Dude, did I look up like the results from like
the lead to lap of the Kentucky Turkey, and that's
what they gave.
Speaker 9 (04:47):
Me a little too many one too many mint julips.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I didn't.
Speaker 9 (04:50):
I didn't have a mint julyp Oops.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
It's too it's too tough for you to make too
many things going on?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That is so Lee?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
What what are what are the top top six that
you're showing?
Speaker 10 (05:00):
All right, so Sovereignty of course one beating out Journalism
and Baeza placing at third. Then we have a final
gambit Owen Almighty Burnham Square, then followed by the American
favorite Sandman was the betting favorite. Then we got into
our our our horses, East Avenue, Chunk of Gold, Testastic,
Cold Battle, Luxer Cafe.
Speaker 9 (05:20):
Neo Equalis.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
Neo equillis so off.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I want to pick my horse next time? We could
do that. Yeah, I don't want to go out of
the hat. Yeah, because now you're now you're Yeah, I'm
into it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, after that Netflix deal.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
But the problem is, what if we pick the same horse.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
How about we do a trifecta. We could do our
win place and show.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
I picked my own horse on the Ben Malor show
Sovereignty and.
Speaker 9 (05:52):
She won good show?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Is that on?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Is that? Is that on? Like? Is that? Can we
hear the SoundBite of it?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
No?
Speaker 8 (06:01):
But Ben did post me on Twitter giving me my props.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Did he gave her credit? He did?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
He did.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Lorena knows how to pick them horses.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
I'm going to be a professional horse beaterer. Now you
watch me.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I bet I bet four horses. I bet four horses.
None of them came close. I bet on all one.
Speaker 10 (06:17):
I bet on all three Sovereignty, journalism, and but I
put them in different spots. I did get Baza to place,
so I got half my money back to.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
How about the fun fact that every single horse in
the derby was a descendant of Secretariat.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
We did further.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Research over the weekend and found that I don't know
the right terminology. I've never owned a horse, but basically
he had six hundred and sixty three kids.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Yeah, it's like Genghis Khan.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, yeah, basically, well, when.
Speaker 11 (06:56):
When you take into account, like I saw a photo
of Secretary at of that the Belmont Stakes. Yeah, and
it was just like just trying to give people nowaday
context as to why every single horse is trails, Like
from that lineage, the second horse was so far back
in the photo it was hard to tell what it was.
You thought it was like a training session, and they're like, no,
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this is Secretariat, arguably the greatest athlete ever, thirty one
lengths ahead of the next horse winning the Belmont Stakes.
Which it does take me back to college when Charlie
Weiss gave us this passionate speech basically about like coming
out and just like stopping on a team that you
should beat, and he made the reference to Secretariat, which
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didn't hit with a lot of the guys in the
locker room, because I mean, at that point in college,
not that many people are in the know of horse racing,
let alone gambling altogether. At least I wasn't. And I
know there's a bunch of other teammates who weren't either.
But then the fact that when he said it was
a horse and he said it was the greatest athlete ever,
I thought to myself, Okay, now now my head's in
(08:03):
a completely different place. Fro I'm saying, like our horses athletes.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, yeah, I think they are. You think they're more
more of an athlete than a golfer?
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Well, can you can you be an athlete?
Speaker 11 (08:17):
Can you be an athlete if you have to be
ridden by a jockey or you know, as Jenness would
call them whatever, he calls.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Them garden homes, that'd be they're athletes. They call them
athletes that uh at rodeos too, want to they call them.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Yeah, but they don't. They don't call the bronco or
the bull the athlete.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Do they Yes, Like when they go down, let's say
one of the athletes, I think it's like one of
the animal athletes. It's something like that, like it's a
they say what it like, they make it clear that
it's an animal though, like one of them. I forget
how they say it, but they call them athletes. Yeah,
they say animal athletes, animal athlete.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, there you go. I mean they're morons for starters.
Who horses? Why are they morons? What I could say
that a lot.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Of people that are actually really smart.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I thought horses had small brains. Whatever it is, I
think they're morons.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You're right around, you ride around in circles.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
You've got this weird eye protection on, and then and
then you've got you've got this this tick on your back.
Who's who's beating you on the side. You can't do
a damn thing about it because you're too stupid. And
then when you finally get there, they give you a
bunch of roses, and they're probably roses bought Vaughns for
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like three ninety nine a flower. They wrap it around
your neck and you go back to the stable. They'll
let you have sex for a little while. And then
if you turn your ankle getting out of bed because
you just laid one down and gets a wreck. Next
thing you know, there's a white tent that comes out
and they bring out a gun the size of an
elephant trunk and they put you to sleep.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You're a moron, Get a better life, get a.
Speaker 11 (09:58):
Job, stand completely while you get hammered on the weekends
on social media. I mean, it makes complete sense.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Now don't they have small and the Animal Kingdom.
Speaker 10 (10:08):
They're considered one of the more intelligent animals in the
Animal Kingdom, long term memory, social intelligence. They could actually
use tools and problems solve.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Who they beat out a termite?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You never saw the show, mister ed like he used
to talk to people. Man, we can never do like
any live show.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I mean, I love the track, So this is great issue.
Speaker 11 (10:35):
Jonas is gonna get his ass kicked and one of
these live shows because someone's gonna really love horses and
just come in and beat his hast.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I mean, now I realize why Boss Hog is no
longer with us.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
You're a terrible er.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah you don't. You don't love animals. You don't love them.
You shuck you think you did? You think Boss Hogg
was a moron. He had his moments there you go see,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Now, I wonder what he thought about you, Like he
was looking through the window like this mother effort.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
You know what's messed up to?
Speaker 11 (11:12):
I can picture Jonas, you said a Southern accent yelling
at him.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Oh no, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (11:18):
To Yeah, it was like damn boy, here and there
it's like you better sit on down, like.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm just telling you you.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Better not be walking around here. No attitude. You ain't
got no thumbs jass down.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Messed up, man, Just it's messed up.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
What you know, it's messed up.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
You guys continuing to bring my dead dog, That's what's
messed up.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
No, don't try to deflect you love it. Do not
try to deflect it, because you know you went down
the dark lane. You let you take you down on
very dark laying and you what do you mean? And
you went right on down it? What do you mean?
You said you better get all over here?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Boy, done to you. I told you to come just
turn down. Switch spatoon nearby?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yes? Oh no, is that the same spatoon? I was saying, mad,
I think that's it. No, that's it. That's it right there.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
There's like twenty in the system.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
No, that one is it round?
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Can we hear them just for the We'll start with
spatoon one.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
No, that ain't it. Ain't it? That definitely ain't it?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
One?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Was aggressive? Yeah, and we didn't even hear it hit
the platoon.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
That was like hock to his boyfriend, No spit on
that thing.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Oh whoa that might have been? It was that one
was it?
Speaker 8 (12:56):
And then sound for is the one I was using?
And then this one's number five.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
That's a hawk. Yeah, that's a hawk. That's a hawk.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, yeah, it was that other one. It was the
third one you played. That's the the Iowa Sam's patoo. Yeah,
that's the wall right there, the Southwest pot. My god, man,
when they when they really do start giving out seat numbers,
that we're gonna have to bury that segment.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That's gonna be a shame. That's really gonna be a
shame like that.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's that's by far and away your best work, Brady,
is the southwestra cattle call.
Speaker 11 (13:40):
They're not doing away with it, though, it'll be there
in some capacity.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Unfortunately for all.
Speaker 11 (13:46):
The all the people who don't want to spend a
little extra bucks to pay to not being the cattle call,
they're still gonna have it.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 11 (13:56):
A part of their boarding process. They're not getting rid
of getting rid of it entirely. So now you really,
if you really want to feel like a human, you
just pay a little bit more and you don't have
to feel like cattle on a Southwest flights.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
So there you go, and.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
They're doing the uh there's no more, no more free bags.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Right, that's done.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Yeah, that I believe just started or is starting here shortly.
Speaker 11 (14:19):
So it's a shame, I trust me, the plast couple
of times I've flown it, so it's really impacted the
the amount of people on the flights.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh is it dropped just because felt it felt like.
Speaker 11 (14:28):
It was like one of those planes Vince Young bought
every seat on Like it was like there was like
twenty some people on this This is great.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Wait what did Yeah?
Speaker 11 (14:36):
Why like bought like every seat on a Southwest plant?
I think to like fly people up and back from
something I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Wow, good for him.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Coin, Jonas Knox
with you. So coming up, we are going to get
the very latest on a story that just continues on
in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
That'll be yours right here on f US.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
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Speaker 3 (15:15):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. I have a just a quick question before
we get to this stuff from Andrew Berry the Vince
Young buying every seat on a flight Southwest flight. So,
I know in the article they were saying what it's
(15:37):
going to be, like, let's say it's one hundred dollars
a seat, about fourteen grand, right, It's like, where's that
in comparison if you got like a private plane, Like, it.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Depends where he's going. I mean, I feels a long trip.
Speaker 11 (15:52):
Yeah, he's definitely he's definitely making out he's getting that
at a discount.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, right, you that off there, But a PJ is
I mean, I mean it's going to be right around
eighteen to twenty.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
But again depending on how far you're going. Yeah, it
just depends on how far it's it's.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
North of five thousand dollars per hour, unbelievable, man. So
and then that was like it's probably more than that nowadays.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, So I mean you could use jet X sweet
X you know, yeah, all by yourself.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, but it still feels private though. I don't know why.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
But other people. But it still feels you know why.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I think it's because of the whole check in process
is what it is like the way it feels.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, it's definitely different.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
It still has a privacy type of deal to it.
It's so funny too, because when you got fly Jets Suite,
it's like you go in the waiting room and everybody
kind of has like this like kind of arrogant air about.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Him, like a, well, who are you to be in
this waiting room? It's only one hundred bucks tickets.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah right, it's not even that expensive. And and it
does they don't go that far. I'm surprised more people
don't do it.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Here's the real question, Lee. Have you flown Jet sweet
X several times? X?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (17:12):
See, I mean that's that's just around what guys supposed
to make And see the hanger for my place.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
And I'm just saying, there you go that that kind
of takes away from the lustern on it.
Speaker 11 (17:24):
I would I would stop Lee at the entrance of
security and be.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Like, like, wait, he flies Jets sweet You.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
You thought it was cool, So Lee does it too.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I flew Jet Sweet X one time.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It was with Lee because we were going out to
Vegas for the draft, and so I'd never done it before.
I'm like, what's the process? Like you said, No, it's easy.
Just walk into this air this airplane hangar, you go
through this door. You just show him your boarding pass
and you're in boarding pass and just like that's it.
He goes, Yeah, you can show show up there thirty
minutes four and you've got plenty of time. So we
(18:02):
get there because yeah, like we get there and we're
just them all. So we just wait here in the
in the waiting room. He goes, yeah, and it's just
there's like a little coffee machine. There's a very coffee Yeah,
you're just kind of sitting around waiting on them.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I don't think they have a vending machine, Jonas, I
think you made.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
That one up. Did they have a vending machine. I
don't believe they have a vending machine.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
The one at Burbank had, Yeah, I think it did
have a vending coffee machine. There's an office in Cornhole
and foosball.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, now yeah, off to the side they did. And Burbank, Yeah,
I use it all the time. I've never seen foods ball.
Speaker 10 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, where right right as you walk through the
in the hangar area.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Well there's a there's the office where you can hang out.
Speaker 10 (18:45):
With yeah, coffee and the TV and the couches, and
then outside they have like some leather couches sitting around
in the hair with foods ball in cornhole.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So I tell you it's I think it's like probably
seven thirty in the morning. And I tell Lea, I'm like, oh,
it sucks for you that I have a bar here.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
He opens up his jam sport what you need? What
you need?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Jonas, I mean, what is that? Did you need a
make sure? What exactly did you need?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
All right, that's sounds rocking here. So yeah, we just
that's how we're doing everything. All right.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
So here's the uh labar you mentioned, uh Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Okay, you got him?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well here congratulations Andrew Berry, the GM of the Cleveland
Browns uh. He discussed the process and the evaluation of
one should or Sanders, and was also asked whether or
not his relationship or conversations with Dion Sanders impacted their
decision making at all.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Personal relationship and interactions with you know, with Dion that
that's really been all positive from our perspective. And I
mean that organizationally, not just me and Kevin, but you know,
really all of us who have interacted with Dion and
you know, the people out in Colorado. You know, we
don't typically penalize prospects for you know, their their parents,
you know, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
So I can't say if that was a factor or
not for you know, for other teams, but that wasn't
a that was not a significant factor for us.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean, you got them, Matt. Why is that even
a conversation that's good to me?
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Sounds like it's tiptoeing around it a little bit, does
it not? Like we typically don't. Yeah, it wasn't really
an issue for us.
Speaker 11 (20:32):
Like I wonder if someone asked him these questions that
they had not taken Shador in the fifth round, you
know what those.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Answers would be or how they would differ.
Speaker 11 (20:41):
Because clearly, uh, there were some issues that played out
for other teams.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So yeah, it did play out. I mean, it is
what it is. I mean, uh, I think they're in
a I don't know how long the conversation. In fact,
they may have put themselves in more of harm's way
drafting them. I mean I've heard again, you've heard big name,
(21:10):
big brand media people put out there Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
So does it mean every single time? Every single time? Huh?
Who's that?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So every single time something doesn't go the way it's
supposed to go or he gets released. Now it's all
on the team, it's just never. If I if I
interpret the usage of it in the comparison of it
to Colin Kaepernick, it says to me, no matter what
(21:47):
that person does, they didn't do it. Somebody else did.
That's what that My interpretation of comparing the two says
to me, you are now in the crosshairs of this
being the Brown's fault. No matter what happens. If he's
(22:08):
a third string, it's the Browns fault. If they let
him go, it's the Browns fault. Anything that happens, they
have the pressure and the weight of it being which
maybe it doesn't matter. I mean, at the end of
the day, you could still justify it saying that you
could get upset all you want, but he's a late
(22:28):
round draft pick.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
We decided to go a different direction.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know, Okay, it happened, But then now, however that's
handled And this is why I said all these mock
outragers and all these people turning it into a race
thing and race baiting and all the things that came
out of it. That's why I came out and did
a post and said, give him a fair opportunity to
(22:53):
make his weight in the league, to have a career
in the league. Because if all of this continue on,
if the media hype of it continues on or raises,
if whatever happens in Cleveland, if the level of it
goes up, and just say, for the sake of saying,
he doesn't end up staying in Cleveland, I don't know
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that other teams are gonna want to deal with what
comes along with that, And a lot of teams would
probably say they didn't want to deal with it in
the first place. And so now that young man doesn't
even really have a fair opportunity to try to get
on a roster and play at the NFL level based
off of elements that really are kind of in a
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way side of his control. It kind of sucks if
that's what you end up being. You actually end up
being a victim of the of the success and the
brand of your family name. And that's I don't know
how you know, I don't know how that works, but
people better be really careful on how they like. You know,
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the guy who said that as big as those names are, like,
you're creating a narrative where it could make it hard
for him to.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Be able to be on a team.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Yeah, I guess I'd say this is like, what is
he doing that's so divisive?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I don't I don't think he's doing anything. I mean,
if you have a problem with the way that young
man handles and carries himself, I don't know what to
tell you. I mean, I guess it's your prerogative if
you're a decision maker, But I mean, if you're offended
by the way he after partied after he got drafted,
and all the celebrities that showed up and supported him, Okay,
(24:33):
I guess that's on you. I guess because I don't.
You know, it's a hard one to answer to say,
why do you have a problem with Shador Sanders? I
don't know, you know, maybe you again the guy that said,
well he made me feel small? What does that even mean?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I mean, like, you know, it's pretty public knowledge now
that he whiffed and bombed some interviews. Do we have
the Albert Breer who was on the Sports Hub in Boston. Uh,
Breer kind of detailed exactly what happened in the Giants interview,
which is the one that made the rounds immediately following
his his slipping in the draft. This was Breer on
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the Sports up in Boston.
Speaker 12 (25:12):
The Giants one there was they give players an install
and there are mistakes intentionally put in the install and
he didn't catch them and got called on it and
it didn't go well after that. There was another team
that he sat down with, What.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Do you mean it didn't go well after that?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Like he was, he was pissed that that they that.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
They didn't they did that.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
He counter confronted the same thing they do to every
other quarterback prospect. They did that to him. They slide
in a mistake to see if you catch it right,
and so because you're the quarterback. But he didn't take
it as a correction. He took it as like he
got it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And so it's like he bombed an interview. Well, yeah,
like everybody knows that, and I think it should or
even said afterwards like yeah, there's some things I could
have done better. There's some things I could have done
you know my you know, I want to show respect
to So that's I.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So he had to be perfect? Is what? What is that?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
What that means is that he and what he was
doing and not you know, not seeing the mistakes or
how he reacted to the mistakes.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He has to be perfect.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
I think what.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
And this is what happens when things turn from college
to the NFL. Like in college, people get praised oftentimes
like what they're doing is cool, right, Like it it
seems cool.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
It seems fun. It's kind of like you know the
NIL era.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
Okay, like these guys a getting paid now they're kind
of spending some of their money. You expect it, right,
there's those feelings around it. But once it turns pro,
even though it kind of feels like it's pro in college,
but once it turns pro at the NFL level, then
it's all critical. It's like every person who has an
opinion of how you're doing something, they have to voice
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that and then the way in which you're doing it
because it's your job.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Now you're not in school, you're.
Speaker 11 (26:57):
Not viewed under this this cape of being you know,
young or immature and kind of giving a pass. Now
you're a pro and so you have to act like
a pro. You have to understand how to be a pro.
And I think what bothers people, and especially with the
interview process is like again, and I think it was
(27:18):
best summarized by saying he probably looked at it more
as recruiting or treated it more as a recruiting than
he did like he was the recruit and he was
looking at the schools trying to figure out which one
fits him, even though their NFL franchises, as opposed to
it being an interview, as opposed to it being you
should be putting your best foot forward for us in
(27:41):
this moment because at the combine you get like fifteen
minutes sometimes those breakout sessions, right, so you only get
a set amount of time to be with us. And
this is a small window. And this is what you're
showing us right now. You know, they bring you in
for a private you know, meetings and workouts or whatever
the case is. They're spending their time, money, and effort
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on that, and that's how you're handling it. So I'm
sure there's some people in the league who are upset
with the fact that he didn't take it as seriously
as he should. Have and his father is one of
the greatest to ever do it, so it's not as
if he didn't know.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
How this process was going to work.
Speaker 11 (28:23):
So I think that's probably what bothered a lot of
people behind the scenes. And then there's probably some people
who are bothered by the fact that it felt like
everything was about branding.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
It felt like everything was about everything other than football.
Speaker 11 (28:37):
You know, he's sitting there winning to be drafted, he
gets a prank call, and he's trying to drop in
his legendary brand as soon as he finally does get drafted.
Now he's trying to throw a party and launch this
whole legendary brand. I think there's people who are bothered
by that because it doesn't feel like the type of
player that's all in for their team, going to do
whatever he can and spend every waking moment on you know,
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football and trying to win a Super Bowl. That's that's
what I think ultimately has kind of happened, and it's
one of the reasons why, yes, he's polarizing, but also
why I think he rubbed a lot of people the
wrong way. Is the NFL wants you to be only
and all about football, and the fans do too, and
when you start straying away from that, people start to question.
(29:20):
They start to wonder, Okay, like when's the clock gonna
run out? Or he obviously doesn't love it enough, or
or you know, he's he's not the player that I
want him to be, you know, whether it's through fantasy betting, whatever,
I don't know that that's more of my interpretation.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Of all of it.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, he got a few offers, they got, he
got they got a lot of offers coming out of
high school. I'll just say, perspective wise, when has he
really ever felt any type of pressure in terms of
making a choice and a decision like this. He's always
(30:00):
he's made the decision and it's always been easy, which
is to stay with your dad, which maybe.
Speaker 11 (30:07):
Maybe ask you you think it's easy though, like to
go to Jackson State instead of going to a Division
one school.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I would say, knowing the affinity that they have for
their dad, I would say it's probably an easy choice.
Is an easy choice, and he's privy to the plan.
They knew they weren't staying at Jackson State. Now, with
that being said, if if Shador doesn't play well, they're
staying at Jackson State. If Jackson State doesn't play well,
(30:35):
Dion Sanders is staying at at Jackson State or maybe not,
so they had to execute. But I think it would
have been hard for Travis Hunter to opt out of
going to like Florida State and going to Jackson State.
And I could see it being a maybe a difficult
decision to, you know, maybe not go to another school
(30:56):
and go to Jackson State with your dad. But I
think in looking at what he's had to do, I mean,
any time that there's ever needed to be an adjustment,
and if it's based off of him, there's going to
be the adjustment. The offense didn't do as well at
one point in time at Colorado, they got rid of
the offensive coordinator and they brought somebody else in. So
(31:17):
it's always been a catering to Shador. I mean, for
what it's worth, I don't think anyone would take offense
to that. Shador has been catered to the entire way.
And so now you find yourself in a situation where
that's not the case, and he's got to be able
to handle himself that way. I saw a quote the
(31:38):
other day, maybe yesterday, when I was looking around and
it said the biggest mistake that maybe they made overall
is that they found it to be okay to act
like a cornerback when you're a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And I thought it was kind of like it was clever.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But I mean, we talked about this on the show,
and I know I talked about it with with Plex
and TJ as well. It's kind of you know, you're
you're held to a much higher standard and how you
handle things and how you do things than any other
position on the field. And and so maybe the biggest,
(32:20):
the biggest, the biggest hurdle that he had to clear
was being less like I hate to say it, which
they will probably disagree with me. I don't know, but
he had to be less like his dad and more
like a quarterback. And it's funny because people throw it's
like now you're take into comparisons, like it's like, well,
(32:41):
you know, the Manning family did the same thing, DA Dad, this,
that and the other. It's like, man, all three of
them are quarterbacks. So if Archie is Dion in this scenario,
and can I.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
Push back on that, like how can you act the same?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Excuse me?
Speaker 7 (32:59):
What amout?
Speaker 11 (33:00):
Cause how they act the same, Like people tried to
how did prime people people try.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
To compare Eli Manning.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, I don't know that's what people were using.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
As I don't think that's a pushback because I don't know,
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
That's what I never really say understood them.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's what's been put out there, and I know you've
seen it, as we've all seen it. That was a comparison.
All I'm saying is is that arch was a quarterback,
Peyton quarterback, Eli quarterback. All three of them are quarterbacks.
So I wouldn't say you can't you can't say, well,
act less like arch act more like a quarterback than
(33:37):
your dad. That played a different position. That's what they
were bred to play. That's what they've done. You know,
I get that. But but like I slow the comparisons.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
People go, how is this any different from what you
know Archie Manning did with Eli Manning and not wanting him.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
To go to the Chargers, It's like, well, it's a
little different.
Speaker 11 (33:54):
Like I don't know that there was as many reservations
about Eli coming out as a quarter back as there
were for sure, Door based on how he conducted his
interviews and based on how he was off the field,
and what teams kind of thought about him.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
We were there any of those reservations with Eli.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I mean, he did catch a case, but I mean
at the bottom line is is.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
That catch a case of what he was publicly intoxicated?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I think he got he had to go, you know,
sit down for a second and talk to a judge
because he was public Was it public intoxication?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I believe yes.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
When was that as well?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
In college?
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yes, look it up. I'm pretty certain. Don't let me
get the lion lead the light. Look it up. He
had an arrest in college, and and and and for
what it's worth, for what it's worth, the idea of.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
It, I like him more now, just say like that
actually was a little different. But I mean he was
arrested for public drunkenness and possession of alcohol by a minor,
which sounds like, well, I'm not gonna say, but there's
some people on this show who you know, stones at
that house. You know all.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
My whole thing is I think the point to me
still remains the point, Like I think him being as
over the top flashy and and how he did things
and and and how it felt the best thing he
could have done was knock out every single interview that
(35:34):
he did, because again, if if the talent outweighs the risk,
then nobody has nothing to say.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
And and I almost feel as.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Though they felt like the risk was outweighing the talent,
and and that was why that was why it turned
out the way it turned out. I mean, just to me,
quite simply put, I don't think there was any conspiracy
theories or anything like that all were humbling him. I
think the teams that there were only a handful of
less than a handful of teams that needed a quarterback
(36:07):
early in the draft. I think we said what we
came down to like three three or three or four
teams that could have used a quarterback early in the draft,
and and cam Ward was going to one of those teams.
So now you take that down to like maybe two
or three teams left. If it did not work out
or play out the way that it was going maybe
(36:29):
seemingly could play out, there was going to potentially be
a slide. Now them taking the other quarterbacks that they
did before Shador Sanders, Now I think that comes into
play the things that I'm talking about in terms of,
you know, the big necklaces or the things that he
said in his interviews, don't draft me.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
If Dada died, this, that and the other.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Like, I think all of those things maybe started to
play more of a factor in if they wanted to
deal with bringing Shador Sanders in.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
It's not like he had a bet back.
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Speaker 3 (37:09):
So that's right.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Yeah, No, I'm just you know, are we good?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, yeah, we're good. I think we're good. Four.
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Speaker 3 (38:32):
Alrightly, take center stage.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
What do we got?
Speaker 9 (38:36):
Well, I had a number of issues at my condo
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
By came back.
Speaker 10 (38:41):
I was relocating my turtle, which we had been at
my parents' house for you had a turtle, yeah, I
had always at this turtle, turtle ripley, nice turtle, yeah,
thirty years old turtle. So I was relocating the turtle
back to my condo. Found out the place was flooding
because the gardener had left the uh, the water going
on in the planners and it was flooding all the
way down to the to the basement.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
So I had to deal with that.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
Come back to my mom screaming because my mom and dad.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Were helping move the lady.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
The lady and my old man had fallen down these
stairs at the at the front of the complex. I
don't know how he survived. No, he wasn't, but he
had to go down. He went down head backwards and sideways.
But how does that happen? Did he trip?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Did he like? What? What was the reasoning?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (39:27):
Well, he was carrying some stuff that was the for
the terrarium.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Okay, Oh, he.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Was helping me and I'm sending you pictures just now.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
It's a really steep, big stairway up to the front
of the complex. And yeah, so I don't know. I
think he had some broken ribs. We didn't even take
him to the hospital before he survived, Thank god. I
don't know how he didn't die.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (39:48):
And then uh, and then found out somebody tried to
break into the complex as well, so we so some
of the bombs tried to break into uh jumping jumped.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Before though, right, they were in the like they broke
in my car.
Speaker 11 (40:02):
I got the back of your car. Now they want
your couch. Yeah, and they want it all.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
It wasn't my my unit, thank god. But yeah, they
mark their territory. They brought through the through the light.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Keep out right next to them. You have so much
stuff go wrong at that place.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, it's like his life, but like everything matches his life.
It's like it's like an outfit. You put an outfit on,
you want it to coordinate and match. It's like elements
of Lee's life all match.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Just why it was pretty rapid fire? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (40:35):
That?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Is it a bad part of town? It's not that bad.
Is It's a really good part of town.
Speaker 9 (40:39):
But it's right next to the freeway, so get some
riff rafts. So what I don't know?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Man, Oh well, good luck, good luck. Feel better, Dad,
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Can you bring us in to the show?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Broh, This sounds like the music you hear while you're
waiting in line to get.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Into a ride at Universal.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Lo.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
There do I see my father?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
Lo?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
There?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Do I see my mother, my brothers and my sisters?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Lo?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Do I see my line of my people back to
the beginning?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They do? They do call me? They bid me take
my place amongst them in.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
The halls of Valhalla, where the brave shall live forever.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
We're gonna have to listen to that every day.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Now, Yes, what is that? Yes? Where's it from? Huh?
Where's it from? Don't worry about it? What do you hear?
It's just a song. I mean it's a tune. It's different.
I like it, you know. Yeah? All right, Larina, where's
that from? What is that song for? Is it a James?
You're asking the wrong person. Well, you just had a
(01:45):
fudge sticle four in the morning.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
So you had a fudge sicle.
Speaker 8 (01:52):
And it was delicious. I hate it in about six minutes.
Pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What was the brand name of it? What's wrong? What
are you coffin like that?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
For Lee?
Speaker 8 (02:05):
He's choking on a fudgetacle? Good kind. Major used to
make really good fudgtacles.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You knowa Major? Hey what was he? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So she was just uh handling a fudgetacle like during
the break four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's wild handling one.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
What can't Loraina do?
Speaker 8 (02:30):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
She's got a mini pinata in studio? Does she does?
Speaker 8 (02:38):
But I can't whack it. I don't have a stick.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You are on a roll. You are totally on a
roll right now.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
And by the way, two pros and a cup of
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Speaker 3 (03:02):
By the way, we.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Didn't mention the big event over the week or one
of the big events over the weekend, the Kentucky Derby.
We did have names in a hat that we drew
on Friday, Lee to lap. Did anybody win or even
come close to winning of the names selected?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
That?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's great?
Speaker 9 (03:20):
Well, I keep my role going of winning names out
of a hat.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
With East Avenue, who finished eighth, So that was the
closest we got to that win place or show are
you serious?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Eighth place?
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Wait? I thought I had them finishing at thirteenth.
Speaker 10 (03:33):
Yeah, I saw what you had there. I think those
were the unofficial results. The official results have East Avenue
as eighth, Testastic as tenth, Luxter Cafe at twelfth.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
The unofficial results were five horses off.
Speaker 11 (03:46):
Yeah, yes, twenty five?
Speaker 7 (03:49):
What all right?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah? I know, I know there were all of them?
Were we off? But we did?
Speaker 9 (03:54):
We did bring in the end here with Lorena and LeVar.
Speaker 10 (03:57):
Lorena's Flying Mihawk finished eighteenth and Levar's admired Daytona last
place nineteen sticks pick.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, technically I didn't pick it, Okay, I'm not LeVar.
Speaker 11 (04:09):
Here's what I don't understand either, is when I was
doing this the research for this, I guess the unofficial
results had admired Daytona at ninth, Like, how can you
go from top ten.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
To dead last?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I don't, I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Well, no, are you?
Speaker 10 (04:25):
Surely I'm looking at two different official results you know so.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well each other, so.
Speaker 10 (04:37):
Yeah these, Yes, you're right, the one official, but from
two different sources.
Speaker 11 (04:41):
Dude, did I look up like the results from like
the lead to lap of the Kentucky Turkey, and that's
what they gave.
Speaker 9 (04:47):
Me a little too many one too many mint julips.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I didn't.
Speaker 9 (04:50):
I didn't have a mint julyp Oops.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
It's too it's too tough for you to make too
many things going on?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That is so Lee?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
What what are what are the top top six that
you're showing?
Speaker 10 (05:00):
All right, so Sovereignty of course one beating out Journalism
and Baeza placing at third. Then we have a final
gambit Owen Almighty Burnham Square, then followed by the American
favorite Sandman was the betting favorite. Then we got into
our our our horses, East Avenue, Chunk of Gold, Testastic,
Cold Battle, Luxer Cafe.
Speaker 9 (05:20):
Neo Equalis.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
Neo equillis so off.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I want to pick my horse next time? We could
do that. Yeah, I don't want to go out of
the hat. Yeah, because now you're now you're Yeah, I'm
into it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, after that Netflix deal.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
But the problem is, what if we pick the same horse.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
How about we do a trifecta. We could do our
win place and show.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
I picked my own horse on the Ben Malor show
Sovereignty and.
Speaker 9 (05:52):
She won good show?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Is that on?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Is that? Is that on? Like? Is that? Can we
hear the SoundBite of it?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
No?
Speaker 8 (06:01):
But Ben did post me on Twitter giving me my props.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Did he gave her credit? He did?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
He did.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Lorena knows how to pick them horses.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
I'm going to be a professional horse beaterer. Now you
watch me.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I bet I bet four horses. I bet four horses.
None of them came close. I bet on all one.
Speaker 10 (06:17):
I bet on all three Sovereignty, journalism, and but I
put them in different spots. I did get Baza to place,
so I got half my money back to.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
How about the fun fact that every single horse in
the derby was a descendant of Secretariat.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
We did further.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Research over the weekend and found that I don't know
the right terminology. I've never owned a horse, but basically
he had six hundred and sixty three kids.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Yeah, it's like Genghis Khan.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, yeah, basically, well, when.
Speaker 11 (06:56):
When you take into account, like I saw a photo
of Secretary at of that the Belmont Stakes. Yeah, and
it was just like just trying to give people nowaday
context as to why every single horse is trails, Like
from that lineage, the second horse was so far back
in the photo it was hard to tell what it was.
You thought it was like a training session, and they're like, no,
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this is Secretariat, arguably the greatest athlete ever, thirty one
lengths ahead of the next horse winning the Belmont Stakes.
Which it does take me back to college when Charlie
Weiss gave us this passionate speech basically about like coming
out and just like stopping on a team that you
should beat, and he made the reference to Secretariat, which
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didn't hit with a lot of the guys in the
locker room, because I mean, at that point in college,
not that many people are in the know of horse racing,
let alone gambling altogether. At least I wasn't. And I
know there's a bunch of other teammates who weren't either.
But then the fact that when he said it was
a horse and he said it was the greatest athlete ever,
I thought to myself, Okay, now now my head's in
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a completely different place. Fro I'm saying, like our horses athletes.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, yeah, I think they are. You think they're more
more of an athlete than a golfer?
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Well, can you can you be an athlete?
Speaker 11 (08:17):
Can you be an athlete if you have to be
ridden by a jockey or you know, as Jenness would
call them whatever, he calls.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Them garden homes, that'd be they're athletes. They call them
athletes that uh at rodeos too, want to they call them.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Yeah, but they don't. They don't call the bronco or
the bull the athlete.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Do they Yes, Like when they go down, let's say
one of the athletes, I think it's like one of
the animal athletes. It's something like that, like it's a
they say what it like, they make it clear that
it's an animal though, like one of them. I forget
how they say it, but they call them athletes. Yeah,
they say animal athletes, animal athlete.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, there you go. I mean they're morons for starters.
Who horses? Why are they morons? What I could say
that a lot.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Of people that are actually really smart.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I thought horses had small brains. Whatever it is, I
think they're morons.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You're right around, you ride around in circles.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
You've got this weird eye protection on, and then and
then you've got you've got this this tick on your back.
Who's who's beating you on the side. You can't do
a damn thing about it because you're too stupid. And
then when you finally get there, they give you a
bunch of roses, and they're probably roses bought Vaughns for
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like three ninety nine a flower. They wrap it around
your neck and you go back to the stable. They'll
let you have sex for a little while. And then
if you turn your ankle getting out of bed because
you just laid one down and gets a wreck. Next
thing you know, there's a white tent that comes out
and they bring out a gun the size of an
elephant trunk and they put you to sleep.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You're a moron, Get a better life, get a.
Speaker 11 (09:58):
Job, stand completely while you get hammered on the weekends
on social media. I mean, it makes complete sense.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Now don't they have small and the Animal Kingdom.
Speaker 10 (10:08):
They're considered one of the more intelligent animals in the
Animal Kingdom, long term memory, social intelligence. They could actually
use tools and problems solve.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Who they beat out a termite?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You never saw the show, mister ed like he used
to talk to people. Man, we can never do like
any live show.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I mean, I love the track, So this is great issue.
Speaker 11 (10:35):
Jonas is gonna get his ass kicked and one of
these live shows because someone's gonna really love horses and
just come in and beat his hast.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I mean, now I realize why Boss Hog is no
longer with us.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
You're a terrible er.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah you don't. You don't love animals. You don't love them.
You shuck you think you did? You think Boss Hogg
was a moron. He had his moments there you go see,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Now, I wonder what he thought about you, Like he
was looking through the window like this mother effort.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
You know what's messed up to?
Speaker 11 (11:12):
I can picture Jonas, you said a Southern accent yelling
at him.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Oh no, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (11:18):
To Yeah, it was like damn boy, here and there
it's like you better sit on down, like.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm just telling you you.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Better not be walking around here. No attitude. You ain't
got no thumbs jass down.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Messed up, man, Just it's messed up.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
What you know, it's messed up.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
You guys continuing to bring my dead dog, That's what's
messed up.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
No, don't try to deflect you love it. Do not
try to deflect it, because you know you went down
the dark lane. You let you take you down on
very dark laying and you what do you mean? And
you went right on down it? What do you mean?
You said you better get all over here?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Boy, done to you. I told you to come just
turn down. Switch spatoon nearby?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yes? Oh no, is that the same spatoon? I was saying, mad,
I think that's it. No, that's it. That's it right there.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
There's like twenty in the system.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
No, that one is it round?
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Can we hear them just for the We'll start with
spatoon one.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
No, that ain't it. Ain't it? That definitely ain't it?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
One?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Was aggressive? Yeah, and we didn't even hear it hit
the platoon.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
That was like hock to his boyfriend, No spit on
that thing.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Oh whoa that might have been? It was that one
was it?
Speaker 8 (12:56):
And then sound for is the one I was using?
And then this one's number five.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
That's a hawk. Yeah, that's a hawk. That's a hawk.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, yeah, it was that other one. It was the
third one you played. That's the the Iowa Sam's patoo. Yeah,
that's the wall right there, the Southwest pot. My god, man,
when they when they really do start giving out seat numbers,
that we're gonna have to bury that segment.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That's gonna be a shame. That's really gonna be a
shame like that.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's that's by far and away your best work, Brady,
is the southwestra cattle call.
Speaker 11 (13:40):
They're not doing away with it, though, it'll be there
in some capacity.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Unfortunately for all.
Speaker 11 (13:46):
The all the people who don't want to spend a
little extra bucks to pay to not being the cattle call,
they're still gonna have it.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 11 (13:56):
A part of their boarding process. They're not getting rid
of getting rid of it entirely. So now you really,
if you really want to feel like a human, you
just pay a little bit more and you don't have
to feel like cattle on a Southwest flights.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
So there you go, and.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
They're doing the uh there's no more, no more free bags.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Right, that's done.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Yeah, that I believe just started or is starting here shortly.
Speaker 11 (14:19):
So it's a shame, I trust me, the plast couple
of times I've flown it, so it's really impacted the
the amount of people on the flights.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh is it dropped just because felt it felt like.
Speaker 11 (14:28):
It was like one of those planes Vince Young bought
every seat on Like it was like there was like
twenty some people on this This is great.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Wait what did Yeah?
Speaker 11 (14:36):
Why like bought like every seat on a Southwest plant?
I think to like fly people up and back from
something I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Wow, good for him.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Coin, Jonas Knox
with you. So coming up, we are going to get
the very latest on a story that just continues on
in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
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Speaker 3 (15:15):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. I have a just a quick question before
we get to this stuff from Andrew Berry the Vince
Young buying every seat on a flight Southwest flight. So,
I know in the article they were saying what it's
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going to be, like, let's say it's one hundred dollars
a seat, about fourteen grand, right, It's like, where's that
in comparison if you got like a private plane, Like, it.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Depends where he's going. I mean, I feels a long trip.
Speaker 11 (15:52):
Yeah, he's definitely he's definitely making out he's getting that
at a discount.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, right, you that off there, But a PJ is
I mean, I mean it's going to be right around
eighteen to twenty.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
But again depending on how far you're going. Yeah, it
just depends on how far it's it's.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
North of five thousand dollars per hour, unbelievable, man. So
and then that was like it's probably more than that nowadays.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, So I mean you could use jet X sweet
X you know, yeah, all by yourself.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, but it still feels private though. I don't know why.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
But other people. But it still feels you know why.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I think it's because of the whole check in process
is what it is like the way it feels.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, it's definitely different.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
It still has a privacy type of deal to it.
It's so funny too, because when you got fly Jets Suite,
it's like you go in the waiting room and everybody
kind of has like this like kind of arrogant air about.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Him, like a, well, who are you to be in
this waiting room? It's only one hundred bucks tickets.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah right, it's not even that expensive. And and it
does they don't go that far. I'm surprised more people
don't do it.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Here's the real question, Lee. Have you flown Jet sweet
X several times? X?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (17:12):
See, I mean that's that's just around what guys supposed
to make And see the hanger for my place.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
And I'm just saying, there you go that that kind
of takes away from the lustern on it.
Speaker 11 (17:24):
I would I would stop Lee at the entrance of
security and be.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Like, like, wait, he flies Jets sweet You.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
You thought it was cool, So Lee does it too.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I flew Jet Sweet X one time.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It was with Lee because we were going out to
Vegas for the draft, and so I'd never done it before.
I'm like, what's the process? Like you said, No, it's easy.
Just walk into this air this airplane hangar, you go
through this door. You just show him your boarding pass
and you're in boarding pass and just like that's it.
He goes, Yeah, you can show show up there thirty
minutes four and you've got plenty of time. So we
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get there because yeah, like we get there and we're
just them all. So we just wait here in the
in the waiting room. He goes, yeah, and it's just
there's like a little coffee machine. There's a very coffee Yeah,
you're just kind of sitting around waiting on them.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I don't think they have a vending machine, Jonas, I
think you made.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
That one up. Did they have a vending machine. I
don't believe they have a vending machine.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
The one at Burbank had, Yeah, I think it did
have a vending coffee machine. There's an office in Cornhole
and foosball.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, now yeah, off to the side they did. And Burbank, Yeah,
I use it all the time. I've never seen foods ball.
Speaker 10 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, where right right as you walk through the
in the hangar area.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Well there's a there's the office where you can hang out.
Speaker 10 (18:45):
With yeah, coffee and the TV and the couches, and
then outside they have like some leather couches sitting around
in the hair with foods ball in cornhole.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So I tell you it's I think it's like probably
seven thirty in the morning. And I tell Lea, I'm like, oh,
it sucks for you that I have a bar here.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
He opens up his jam sport what you need? What
you need?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Jonas, I mean, what is that? Did you need a
make sure? What exactly did you need?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
All right, that's sounds rocking here. So yeah, we just
that's how we're doing everything. All right.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
So here's the uh labar you mentioned, uh Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Okay, you got him?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well here congratulations Andrew Berry, the GM of the Cleveland
Browns uh. He discussed the process and the evaluation of
one should or Sanders, and was also asked whether or
not his relationship or conversations with Dion Sanders impacted their
decision making at all.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Personal relationship and interactions with you know, with Dion that
that's really been all positive from our perspective. And I
mean that organizationally, not just me and Kevin, but you know,
really all of us who have interacted with Dion and
you know, the people out in Colorado. You know, we
don't typically penalize prospects for you know, their their parents,
you know, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
So I can't say if that was a factor or
not for you know, for other teams, but that wasn't
a that was not a significant factor for us.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean, you got them, Matt. Why is that even
a conversation that's good to me?
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Sounds like it's tiptoeing around it a little bit, does
it not? Like we typically don't. Yeah, it wasn't really
an issue for us.
Speaker 11 (20:32):
Like I wonder if someone asked him these questions that
they had not taken Shador in the fifth round, you
know what those.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Answers would be or how they would differ.
Speaker 11 (20:41):
Because clearly, uh, there were some issues that played out
for other teams.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So yeah, it did play out. I mean, it is
what it is. I mean, uh, I think they're in
a I don't know how long the conversation. In fact,
they may have put themselves in more of harm's way
drafting them. I mean I've heard again, you've heard big name,
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big brand media people put out there Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
So does it mean every single time? Every single time? Huh?
Who's that?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So every single time something doesn't go the way it's
supposed to go or he gets released. Now it's all
on the team, it's just never. If I if I
interpret the usage of it in the comparison of it
to Colin Kaepernick, it says to me, no matter what
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that person does, they didn't do it. Somebody else did.
That's what that My interpretation of comparing the two says
to me, you are now in the crosshairs of this
being the Brown's fault. No matter what happens. If he's
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a third string, it's the Browns fault. If they let
him go, it's the Browns fault. Anything that happens, they
have the pressure and the weight of it being which
maybe it doesn't matter. I mean, at the end of
the day, you could still justify it saying that you
could get upset all you want, but he's a late
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round draft pick.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
We decided to go a different direction.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know, Okay, it happened, But then now, however that's
handled And this is why I said all these mock
outragers and all these people turning it into a race
thing and race baiting and all the things that came
out of it. That's why I came out and did
a post and said, give him a fair opportunity to
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make his weight in the league, to have a career
in the league. Because if all of this continue on,
if the media hype of it continues on or raises,
if whatever happens in Cleveland, if the level of it
goes up, and just say, for the sake of saying,
he doesn't end up staying in Cleveland, I don't know
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that other teams are gonna want to deal with what
comes along with that, And a lot of teams would
probably say they didn't want to deal with it in
the first place. And so now that young man doesn't
even really have a fair opportunity to try to get
on a roster and play at the NFL level based
off of elements that really are kind of in a
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way side of his control. It kind of sucks if
that's what you end up being. You actually end up
being a victim of the of the success and the
brand of your family name. And that's I don't know
how you know, I don't know how that works, but
people better be really careful on how they like. You know,
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the guy who said that as big as those names are, like,
you're creating a narrative where it could make it hard
for him to.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Be able to be on a team.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Yeah, I guess I'd say this is like, what is
he doing that's so divisive?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I don't I don't think he's doing anything. I mean,
if you have a problem with the way that young
man handles and carries himself, I don't know what to
tell you. I mean, I guess it's your prerogative if
you're a decision maker, But I mean, if you're offended
by the way he after partied after he got drafted,
and all the celebrities that showed up and supported him, Okay,
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I guess that's on you. I guess because I don't.
You know, it's a hard one to answer to say,
why do you have a problem with Shador Sanders? I
don't know, you know, maybe you again the guy that said,
well he made me feel small? What does that even mean?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I mean, like, you know, it's pretty public knowledge now
that he whiffed and bombed some interviews. Do we have
the Albert Breer who was on the Sports Hub in Boston. Uh,
Breer kind of detailed exactly what happened in the Giants interview,
which is the one that made the rounds immediately following
his his slipping in the draft. This was Breer on
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the Sports up in Boston.
Speaker 12 (25:12):
The Giants one there was they give players an install
and there are mistakes intentionally put in the install and
he didn't catch them and got called on it and
it didn't go well after that. There was another team
that he sat down with, What.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Do you mean it didn't go well after that?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Like he was, he was pissed that that they that.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
They didn't they did that.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
He counter confronted the same thing they do to every
other quarterback prospect. They did that to him. They slide
in a mistake to see if you catch it right,
and so because you're the quarterback. But he didn't take
it as a correction. He took it as like he
got it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And so it's like he bombed an interview. Well, yeah,
like everybody knows that, and I think it should or
even said afterwards like yeah, there's some things I could
have done better. There's some things I could have done
you know my you know, I want to show respect
to So that's I.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So he had to be perfect? Is what? What is that?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
What that means is that he and what he was
doing and not you know, not seeing the mistakes or
how he reacted to the mistakes.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He has to be perfect.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
I think what.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
And this is what happens when things turn from college
to the NFL. Like in college, people get praised oftentimes
like what they're doing is cool, right, Like it it
seems cool.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
It seems fun. It's kind of like you know the
NIL era.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
Okay, like these guys a getting paid now they're kind
of spending some of their money. You expect it, right,
there's those feelings around it. But once it turns pro,
even though it kind of feels like it's pro in college,
but once it turns pro at the NFL level, then
it's all critical. It's like every person who has an
opinion of how you're doing something, they have to voice
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that and then the way in which you're doing it
because it's your job.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Now you're not in school, you're.
Speaker 11 (26:57):
Not viewed under this this cape of being you know,
young or immature and kind of giving a pass. Now
you're a pro and so you have to act like
a pro. You have to understand how to be a pro.
And I think what bothers people, and especially with the
interview process is like again, and I think it was
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best summarized by saying he probably looked at it more
as recruiting or treated it more as a recruiting than
he did like he was the recruit and he was
looking at the schools trying to figure out which one
fits him, even though their NFL franchises, as opposed to
it being an interview, as opposed to it being you
should be putting your best foot forward for us in
(27:41):
this moment because at the combine you get like fifteen
minutes sometimes those breakout sessions, right, so you only get
a set amount of time to be with us. And
this is a small window. And this is what you're
showing us right now. You know, they bring you in
for a private you know, meetings and workouts or whatever
the case is. They're spending their time, money, and effort
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on that, and that's how you're handling it. So I'm
sure there's some people in the league who are upset
with the fact that he didn't take it as seriously
as he should. Have and his father is one of
the greatest to ever do it, so it's not as
if he didn't know.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
How this process was going to work.
Speaker 11 (28:23):
So I think that's probably what bothered a lot of
people behind the scenes. And then there's probably some people
who are bothered by the fact that it felt like
everything was about branding.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
It felt like everything was about everything other than football.
Speaker 11 (28:37):
You know, he's sitting there winning to be drafted, he
gets a prank call, and he's trying to drop in
his legendary brand as soon as he finally does get drafted.
Now he's trying to throw a party and launch this
whole legendary brand. I think there's people who are bothered
by that because it doesn't feel like the type of
player that's all in for their team, going to do
whatever he can and spend every waking moment on you know,
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football and trying to win a Super Bowl. That's that's
what I think ultimately has kind of happened, and it's
one of the reasons why, yes, he's polarizing, but also
why I think he rubbed a lot of people the
wrong way. Is the NFL wants you to be only
and all about football, and the fans do too, and
when you start straying away from that, people start to question.
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They start to wonder, Okay, like when's the clock gonna
run out? Or he obviously doesn't love it enough, or
or you know, he's he's not the player that I
want him to be, you know, whether it's through fantasy betting, whatever,
I don't know that that's more of my interpretation.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Of all of it.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, he got a few offers, they got, he
got they got a lot of offers coming out of
high school. I'll just say, perspective wise, when has he
really ever felt any type of pressure in terms of
making a choice and a decision like this. He's always
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he's made the decision and it's always been easy, which
is to stay with your dad, which maybe.
Speaker 11 (30:07):
Maybe ask you you think it's easy though, like to
go to Jackson State instead of going to a Division
one school.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I would say, knowing the affinity that they have for
their dad, I would say it's probably an easy choice.
Is an easy choice, and he's privy to the plan.
They knew they weren't staying at Jackson State. Now, with
that being said, if if Shador doesn't play well, they're
staying at Jackson State. If Jackson State doesn't play well,
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Dion Sanders is staying at at Jackson State or maybe not,
so they had to execute. But I think it would
have been hard for Travis Hunter to opt out of
going to like Florida State and going to Jackson State.
And I could see it being a maybe a difficult
decision to, you know, maybe not go to another school
(30:56):
and go to Jackson State with your dad. But I
think in looking at what he's had to do, I mean,
any time that there's ever needed to be an adjustment,
and if it's based off of him, there's going to
be the adjustment. The offense didn't do as well at
one point in time at Colorado, they got rid of
the offensive coordinator and they brought somebody else in. So
(31:17):
it's always been a catering to Shador. I mean, for
what it's worth, I don't think anyone would take offense
to that. Shador has been catered to the entire way.
And so now you find yourself in a situation where
that's not the case, and he's got to be able
to handle himself that way. I saw a quote the
(31:38):
other day, maybe yesterday, when I was looking around and
it said the biggest mistake that maybe they made overall
is that they found it to be okay to act
like a cornerback when you're a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And I thought it was kind of like it was clever.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But I mean, we talked about this on the show,
and I know I talked about it with with Plex
and TJ as well. It's kind of you know, you're
you're held to a much higher standard and how you
handle things and how you do things than any other
position on the field. And and so maybe the biggest,
(32:20):
the biggest, the biggest hurdle that he had to clear
was being less like I hate to say it, which
they will probably disagree with me. I don't know, but
he had to be less like his dad and more
like a quarterback. And it's funny because people throw it's
like now you're take into comparisons, like it's like, well,
(32:41):
you know, the Manning family did the same thing, DA Dad, this,
that and the other. It's like, man, all three of
them are quarterbacks. So if Archie is Dion in this scenario,
and can I.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
Push back on that, like how can you act the same?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Excuse me?
Speaker 7 (32:59):
What amout?
Speaker 11 (33:00):
Cause how they act the same, Like people tried to
how did prime people people try.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
To compare Eli Manning.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, I don't know that's what people were using.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
As I don't think that's a pushback because I don't know,
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
That's what I never really say understood them.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's what's been put out there, and I know you've
seen it, as we've all seen it. That was a comparison.
All I'm saying is is that arch was a quarterback,
Peyton quarterback, Eli quarterback. All three of them are quarterbacks.
So I wouldn't say you can't you can't say, well,
act less like arch act more like a quarterback than
(33:37):
your dad. That played a different position. That's what they
were bred to play. That's what they've done. You know,
I get that. But but like I slow the comparisons.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
People go, how is this any different from what you
know Archie Manning did with Eli Manning and not wanting him.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
To go to the Chargers, It's like, well, it's a
little different.
Speaker 11 (33:54):
Like I don't know that there was as many reservations
about Eli coming out as a quarter back as there
were for sure, Door based on how he conducted his
interviews and based on how he was off the field,
and what teams kind of thought about him.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
We were there any of those reservations with Eli.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I mean, he did catch a case, but I mean
at the bottom line is is.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
That catch a case of what he was publicly intoxicated?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I think he got he had to go, you know,
sit down for a second and talk to a judge
because he was public Was it public intoxication?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I believe yes.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
When was that as well?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
In college?
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yes, look it up. I'm pretty certain. Don't let me
get the lion lead the light. Look it up. He
had an arrest in college, and and and and for
what it's worth, for what it's worth, the idea of.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
It, I like him more now, just say like that
actually was a little different. But I mean he was
arrested for public drunkenness and possession of alcohol by a minor,
which sounds like, well, I'm not gonna say, but there's
some people on this show who you know, stones at
that house. You know all.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
My whole thing is I think the point to me
still remains the point, Like I think him being as
over the top flashy and and how he did things
and and and how it felt the best thing he
could have done was knock out every single interview that
(35:34):
he did, because again, if if the talent outweighs the risk,
then nobody has nothing to say.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
And and I almost feel as.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Though they felt like the risk was outweighing the talent,
and and that was why that was why it turned
out the way it turned out. I mean, just to me,
quite simply put, I don't think there was any conspiracy
theories or anything like that all were humbling him. I
think the teams that there were only a handful of
less than a handful of teams that needed a quarterback
(36:07):
early in the draft. I think we said what we
came down to like three three or three or four
teams that could have used a quarterback early in the draft,
and and cam Ward was going to one of those teams.
So now you take that down to like maybe two
or three teams left. If it did not work out
or play out the way that it was going maybe
(36:29):
seemingly could play out, there was going to potentially be
a slide. Now them taking the other quarterbacks that they
did before Shador Sanders, Now I think that comes into
play the things that I'm talking about in terms of,
you know, the big necklaces or the things that he
said in his interviews, don't draft me.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
If Dada died, this, that and the other.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Like, I think all of those things maybe started to
play more of a factor in if they wanted to
deal with bringing Shador Sanders in.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
It's not like he had a bet back.
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Speaker 3 (38:32):
Alrightly, take center stage.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
What do we got?
Speaker 9 (38:36):
Well, I had a number of issues at my condo
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
By came back.
Speaker 10 (38:41):
I was relocating my turtle, which we had been at
my parents' house for you had a turtle, yeah, I
had always at this turtle, turtle ripley, nice turtle, yeah,
thirty years old turtle. So I was relocating the turtle
back to my condo. Found out the place was flooding
because the gardener had left the uh, the water going
on in the planners and it was flooding all the
way down to the to the basement.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
So I had to deal with that.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
Come back to my mom screaming because my mom and dad.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Were helping move the lady.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
The lady and my old man had fallen down these
stairs at the at the front of the complex. I
don't know how he survived. No, he wasn't, but he
had to go down. He went down head backwards and sideways.
But how does that happen? Did he trip?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Did he like? What? What was the reasoning?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (39:27):
Well, he was carrying some stuff that was the for
the terrarium.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Okay, Oh, he.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Was helping me and I'm sending you pictures just now.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
It's a really steep, big stairway up to the front
of the complex. And yeah, so I don't know. I
think he had some broken ribs. We didn't even take
him to the hospital before he survived, Thank god. I
don't know how he didn't die.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (39:48):
And then uh, and then found out somebody tried to
break into the complex as well, so we so some
of the bombs tried to break into uh jumping jumped.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Before though, right, they were in the like they broke
in my car.
Speaker 11 (40:02):
I got the back of your car. Now they want
your couch. Yeah, and they want it all.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
It wasn't my my unit, thank god. But yeah, they
mark their territory. They brought through the through the light.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Keep out right next to them. You have so much
stuff go wrong at that place.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, it's like his life, but like everything matches his life.
It's like it's like an outfit. You put an outfit on,
you want it to coordinate and match. It's like elements
of Lee's life all match.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Just why it was pretty rapid fire? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (40:35):
That?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Is it a bad part of town? It's not that bad.
Is It's a really good part of town.
Speaker 9 (40:39):
But it's right next to the freeway, so get some
riff rafts. So what I don't know?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Man, Oh well, good luck, good luck. Feel better, Dad,
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