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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
You just go on breeze over the like the horrible
song that we're listening to coming. We gotta listen to
this every day hour three. I mean we need to
just go to introduce the show instead of the song's
gotta start where the punch?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, Hey, can you guys bring him back that DC stuff?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
That was sweet?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I really want that back. Jab I mean this.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
You like Lincoln Park horrible?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You don't like Lincoln Park. Like Lincoln Park, okay, but
this song stinks. Okay, this song name a better One
Park song. You're such a big fan. I like when
they did the uh the what with jay Z? They
did that song with jay Z? What was You don't
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so you don't like Lincoln parkers by themselves? What you're
saying like Lincoln Park is all right? I like them.
I like Lincoln Park. What what's supposed to me? You
don't like Lincoln Park without without jay Z, without Jiggerman.
I just know, no deflecting going on here. That's songs. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I think later today I'll be sending in my you
know what's funny though, so I'll save the day again
because I'm not even like giving your your song is
a chance because you attacked my song so basic you didn't,
I just go ahead and attack y'alls without any cause.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, but what is the song? That's from Thirteenth Warrior?
It's from the score of Thirteenth Warrior. What the hell's
Thirteenth Warrior? You never heard? You never heard that movie? Okay,
Well there you go. Lead you have you heard a
Thirteenth Warrior?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Antonio benderis yeah, thirteenth There you go?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Not yet? Not? Yeah? Well, well there you go. I
mean I thought that that would have hit you pretty
good right there, like yours is good. I n I
named my bulldog after the main the main viking in
the movie Bullvy. I had a bulldog named bull Vy.
It's my dude. Where's he at? He's with Boss Hog?
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Damn They out there playing in Doggie Avenue up anywhere?
Geez all right, well my dog is I don't know
about yours.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Now, well, listen here on two Pros and a Cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Tarrington, Brady Quinn,
and Jonas Knox, we are going to take a take
a moment here to just acknowledge, you know, hell of
a job, hell of a job by one. Greg Popovich
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calls it a career as a head coach. He will
not be back president. So go up up top like
a rally, hit a pat rally on him. Yeah, I'm
not sure.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I don't know. He went.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
He had the stroke, he had the medical issue this year.
It seemed like this was heading towards the end. And
so now he walks away. But uh, but a hell
of a run and hell of a guy who did
it for a for a long time. And he was
also uh not all that nice.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Was He was not someone called him The Thirteenth Warrior.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
You saw that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You never saw that?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Cue, didn't see it, didn't see it.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Good movies.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I actually watched watch the movie called Wolf's This Weekend
with Brad Pitt and George Clooney. It's actually a decent
little flick. I'm assuming lee've seen it by now.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Yeah, I've seen it. It's a good film.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
What's it? What's it on Prime?
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I think it's on Apple.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
It's on Apple.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, you're an Apple guy.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Uh not really.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
My wife was the one that kind of found it
and she's like, hey, this looks interesting. I said, yeah,
Brad Pitt, George Clooney, of course. So then it kind
of felt like they just watched those two act together
in the Ocean series and they're like, Oh, we love
their witty banter back and forth.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Let's just roll that into another film.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So yeah, anyway, I could dig it.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Popovich.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yes, is he the closest.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Thing to Bill Belichick in the NBA?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yes, Like I was doing a little digging on this, right.
So Papovitch played at Air Force. He had what felt like
kind of like a militant sort of style in which
he coached and and communicated to the media. No, Bill
Belichick played at Wesley and he wasn't a part of
one of the academies. However, his father was, and that's
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what he credits oftentimes for a lot of the military
background than in which he applies to his coaching and teaching.
So a lot of similarities between the two, a ton
of success. Papavich obviously a five time NBA champion, three
time Coach of the Year. I would say the difference
is Greg Papovitch was much more outspoken about things that
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he wanted to talk about. I don't know that we've
ever heard like Bill Belichick outside of football ever say
what he really thinks on anything else but football.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Does that make sense? Yeah, Like he speaks out like
Papovich has gotten involved with like political conversations. He's like, yeah, absolutely,
it makes sense. Going.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
But like, you've never heard Bill Belichick say anything like that.
It feels like he just kind of coaches football. I'm
a football coach. That's all I want to talk about,
et cetera. Not saying it's thing's wrong with that, But
I do think it's interesting that Greig Popovich, for the
manner in which he treated the media and I'm sure
he's got a better relationship than maybe it's perceived. But
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it felt like because there was Bill Belichick, it was
okay for Greg Popovich to handle the media the same way.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, I'll say brilliant career first and foremost. I mean,
obviously got the most out of the players that he
coached along the way. I think the comparison is fair
to say he's the basketball Bill Belichick a lot of
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I think just the way we perceived the San Antonio
Spurs as an organization was very comparable to what the
New England Patriots were as a football franchise. So yeah,
I think looking at Greg Popovich and just how people
will remember him, I think they certainly will remember the
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fact that he did speak his mind and he had
no problem telling you exactly how he felt, and and
he was he was definitely a hardcore coach, you know,
And and it just came across that way, and it
just seemed as though it's like, you know, is he
a likable guy? You know? And and almost like you
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think of like a Mike Krzyzewsky and is he a
likable guy? But seems to me that a lot of
the people that have played for guys like them. You
know they love them, you know they love Greg Popovich
and and so yeah, it's a brilliant career. I think. Again,
I think he's going to become like a president of
operations or something like that for the team. So he's
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not completely removing himself from being around basketball and being
around the game. So he'll continue to have a presence
and and and an influence on what takes place with
the team, which I think is very smart and wise
in them to do.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, I'm not a fan his whole the old act
of he's got a clown or reporter, and you know,
it was it just went on and on and then
it became forced just continued to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Reporter asked you a bad question or a yes no question,
you give him a short answer, like Joe Missoula does
a little bit of what Belichick does to where he
gives just very short direct.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Love Joe Mazula, he's awesome, and and he does it.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
It comes off different. Yeah, for some reason, it comes
off different than Papovich.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Popovich just felt like it was part of his It
was like a bit after a certain point and it
was like, Okay, dude, we get it. We understand, like
we get what you're trying to do here. Great career,
brilliant coach did it, did a great job obviously with
that that crew of players he had in San Antonio
for all those years, and the fact that he could
do it for as long as he did in one
place was incredible. But yeah, it just wasn't a fan
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with the fan of the antics.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I think, you know, Missoula's like belief and his faith
and how he's able to effortlessly and seamlessly kind of
weave it together. It's like very disarming, whereas I think
guys like Belichick and guys like Papovich, it's not they
don't I don't think they do it to disarm to
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get their point across. I think they're they don't care
if it comes across as adversarial, if it comes across
as confrontational. I think it's just what they feel is
what's most important. And I think a guy like Missoula,
you know, he's able to weave in like it's connected
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to his beliefs and his faith and stuff like that.
And I think that just even his voice tone, like
you think about you know, Belichick, sounds like the Emperor
from from Star Wars. You know, Popovich has a very
very confrontation no sounding voice. You know, it's just like
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it has like an irritant feel to it. And and
then you take the look. Both of them fit, the
way they look, both of them fit the way they communicate.
So it just it's just a perfect storm of how
they they handled the media, how they looked in handling
the media, how they were perceived, and so to me,
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I mean, but I think I find it to be
interesting that we're talking about two of the most successful
coaches in the history of sport. So there has to
be something to it. I'm just saying it can't just
be like empty. It's not empty calories. Those are real calories.
Like that's like Popovich is like, that's a real one.
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So you got to be a rat ash to be successful.
I don't know, but it's interesting to think that two
of the greatest to ever do it have the same
save is.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
The greatest in college football history.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Right, same type of traits. I love Nick Saban what
what was the quote he gave?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
But they ran through us like s through a tin horn,
which I still don't understand.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I still don't get it, but he well.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You'd have to get Hi out of your dog to
understand it, because that's that's the only time you ever
kind of venture down into the South in your brain
at least.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, I think that's uncalled for. But I'm saying that,
how do you get how do you like Nick Saban
but not like Popovich? Because Popovich was it felt like
an act. Saban felt like he legitimately had a red ass,
like he was really upset, and you didn't think Popovich's
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red No. No. Eighty two games. If you exposed his ass,
what color was it, Peach, I'll tell you that. We'll
split the difference. Apricot. Okay, not a red ass. I'm
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gonna leave that one alone. Because I was about to
say something and that people were like, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Even forced by the way the shots on the report, mango.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Mango deck ass.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, okay, by the way thoughts of the reports that
as it turned out, even if they would have won
Game five against the Timberwolves, which they did not and
had no business being in, but Anthony Edwards couldn't find
a basket, uh, the Lakers would have had to continue
on without Lebron James who reportedly suffered a Grade two
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mcl sprain in that game.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
As it, as was pointed.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Out, that news came out really fast after their loss.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Did you guys notice that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I mean, it definitely did. Did you see the walk
in the tunnel after Yeah, he definitely looked like the
tin man walking walking.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I just I usually don't recall information coming out that
fast after a game after the end of the season.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
All that that fast.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
So you need to tell me the same guy who
showed up following a loss in the finals after the
final game.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
With a brace on his hand that.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
He never wore at all at any point during any
of the other games in the finals, but did after
the finals were over. You need to tell me that
that guy would have just had that news come out
immediately after losing Game five like that? Are we trying
to make reckless accusations about Lebron James and people trying
to push a narrative about him?
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Again, Man, you said a lot there. All I said
was I thought that information came out.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Really fast after the loss. That's all.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, look, I mean my only run he felt like that.
It was like they lost and.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
All of a sudden it like, oh it was unbelievable
he played on a spraying MCL, you know, because a
lot of people were taking issue with I believe that
happened on the.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Collision right went down.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, and that's and that's what you know, people were
taking issue with the fact that it felt like because
of the other viral video that went out that basically
saw him flopping like looking for a foul, that they
felt like they needed to protect the reputation.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You know, they weren't going to win or lose based
off of Lebron though. That was the thing. Like I
think it was more so geared towards the whole trade,
you know, like the legitimacy and the value of the
trade was in question after that game. And maybe for Lebron,
it's like me having this MCL and me limping up
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out of of the arena to leave and doing what
it is that I need to do. Maybe that that
separates him from the culpability of them losing the series.
You know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't
know why he would have, you know, put himself in
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any type.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Of it feels divisive.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It's like it feels like it's like, oh man, I
was trying to play through this injury. Meanwhile, we got
other guys who are out of shape on this team.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
You know how many cartons just bat Steve think Lucas
gone through since the.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Did you see Robert Orry came out and was like,
what does JJ Reddick know about championship uh, championship conditioning? Yeah,
I mean he's stabbed on him dog like, I mean
stamped it like I got like he did the interview
and had all like you could. You couldn't even see
all of the trophies that he had from championships because
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he's got so many of them. I mean, when somebody
comes out and ranked you like that, that's kind of
that was interesting, But I was curious to try to understand,
you know, what what he meant by it, Like why
was he so offended by JJ Reddick coming out saying that,
You know, he questioned the whole idea, what is even championship?
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You don't even know what championship conditioning looks like? Well,
I mean he never won one, so you can't know
what one? What? Just yeah, I just think maybe he
watched you, Robert, or maybe maybe he watched you with
the rockets. Maybe he watched you with the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Maybe he watched you J Redicks Robert or by the way,
my homie to JJ Redicks defense. He has said before
that when he was at Duke that Mike Krzyzewski called
him out because he was partying one off season.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
They ended up getting eliminated early.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
In the tournament and Skrzyzewski called Ahi out and said,
you're not in shape, Like you're not. So maybe there's
some of that to where he goes, I went through that,
I learned my lesson, and I'm trying to pass.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Called him out after NCAA tournament loss. Yeah, aren't you
too far into the season to be getting called out
for that? No, it was after the season was over. Yeah,
but I'm saying, would you see that somewhere before then
and tell him you need to get your ass in
better shape and condition before we get to this tournament. Like,
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I look at the Lucas situation and I find it
to be kind of you're as a coach, you're compromised,
especially if it's something like that because you didn't have
him very long. That's amazing, you didn't have him very long,
and so how do you how do you justify whatever
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it is? That you're getting. You gotta take what you get,
and you got to hope that the things that made
the trade worthwhile for you to do it are shining
through during those games. And he just I mean, he
didn't act out a character. You didn't see a Luca
that you didn't see in Dallas. So I don't know
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why people are upset. What are you upset for? What
do you what are you calling that out for? Is
there neat to call that out to me that you
know that would lessen the relationship with me? You calling
it out in the media. I don't have a problem
with you saying I need to be in better shape.
I got a problem with you you putting it out
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there in the media because now you've basically let it
be made known that you're okay with put me out there,
because that was one of the things that people really
were very critical on Luca when he was in Dallas.
So you're basically going along with the narrative. If I'm Luca,
I'm looking at JJ Reddick like you could kick rocks.
I have no trust for you, And to be honest
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with you, respect level was probably not very high either.
I don't respect that if you got something to say
to me about what I need to do. Come to me. Yeah,
but if your coach can't call you out, like who can't? No,
you can't. No, it's not that's I'm not saying you
can't call a player out. I'm saying why do it
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in the media. There's one hundred different things that that
JJ Reddick could have said we could have played better.
Did he say I could have coached better? I don't recall.
Were there any sound bites of jj Reddick saying that
I could have coached better? I know he said he
or got offended that. You know, they were asking him,
does he listen to his assistance on you know, trades
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and matchups and stuff like that, and he's like, I
do listen to my assistants. Well, and then he walked off.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I do know that he also said, you know, he
pointed out in one of the games, it might have
been after game four something along the lines of paraphrasing here,
but that they just didn't execute, which is code.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
For we gave them the right place, we gave them
the right thing. Well, they just don't do it again.
That further's my point. That further's my point. You never
want to be Listen, a coach, a successful coach has
to have some type of ego, has to have some
type of kind of some narcissism in them. They got
to have a little bit of it. And whether people
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want to admit that or not, or will you know,
openly admit that a coach has to have that, they
have to have those elements. I don't have a problem
with that. The problem I have is not it's not
a problem for me. I'm not a Lakers fan. But
the problem that I would have if I was one
of the players, or if I was a fan, is
that you're putting your newly acquired superstar, which by the way,
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you're looking to be eventually the face of your organization,
the face of your team, and you're putting him on blasts.
Whether you meant to or you didn't mean to, I'll
tell you what you didn't do. You didn't say anything
that would lead you to believe that it was like,
you know what, this was a tough series. We're going
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to learn from it. There's some things I could have
done better. There's things that we could have all done better.
And that starts with me. Let's figure this thing out
in the off season. We're going to come back better,
and we're going to come back ready to go next season.
Like I believe in these guys in our locker room.
Let's hear it, Let's hear it, Let's hear it. This
was a JJ evaluating himself.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
I'll use my own thoughts to evaluate myself, and I'll
use what my players say and what my co.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Staff says to evaluate.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
But you know, I know I can be better and
I know I will get better. I don't necessarily take
any satisfaction from how the year went. That's not to
say I'm not proud of what the group was able
to do and how we're able to figure things out
on the fly and put ourselves in a position to
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have home court in the first round. But there's always
there's always ways.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
To get better, and I can. I can get a
lot better. I have a yeah, I don't have a
pro that's called. So that's the biggest thing to me
is self accountability. So I'm glad that's you cute that
up and played it, because that's what's most important. Not
calling out players, not not throwing out divisive things, not
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not really you know, being a person that that kind
of you front streat me, like, don't front streat me,
you know, like protect the team.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
What if he were to finish with now, if I
could get Luke at a run put down the funnel Cake,
we could we could be pursuing a title.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Funnel They are good, Yeah, they are. Funnel Cake is good.
Man strawberries and whipped cream, you know, also an ice
vanilla ice cream. You know who's got a lot of
got a lot of criticism. And we did the shows together,
and there's Joe Mazzoola got a lot of criticism his
first year. It was his first year.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
He'd never coached before, he had never done it before,
redly to that level and and you would see big
differences in year two. So I would expect him, much
like players, coaches are going to get better from year
over year.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You just got to hope that the trust is there.
That's all. I would say.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
A lot of Boston Celtics talk.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know, well they're still in it. Well they're in it.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Someone's someone that invested interests.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know who LeVar yourself? Your c's Van bar No,
you do know is like an eighties front runner. I
do know that, Okay, I do know that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, Yeah, the Chicago Bears, Boston Celtics, the Pittsburgh Penguins,
and I don't. I analyze. That's what I do. There's
no rooting.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Interesting, it is two pros and a cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Said something I would have gotten dumbed for it.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
By the way, I gotta, I gotta be honest with you,
Brady really held out on the F S R I
R because I know you went through it this weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I know you did, and you know.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I mean, I'm still under the weather. But no, this
weekend was fine.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Any issues, Yeah, you know, one text message to you
and then you gotta you gotta put.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It on blast because I've been there. Unbelievable, be there.
We talk about this stuff. I've been there. It's awful.
LeVar he all right.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
So we went out to dinner with another family and
when we end up paying for dinner with the other family,
and so they were deprecated by buying ice cream afterwards.
And I told him, I was like, I could not
get out of that ice cream store fast enough. I
had to get home immediately. I looked at my wife
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and she's like, why are you hurrying us? Like, oh, bib,
I need to go. We need to go as soon
as humanly possible, and it was raining outside and so
just everything took a little bit longer, but fortunately it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
All worked out. I'm happy for you. I found myself
in the same scenario and situation over over some hot
sausages that I didn't realize how hot the sausages were
and what happened, Oh it was it was yeah, bruh, yeah, bruh.
I mean, dude, forty hits different.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
There are things when I was thirty nine I could
do different than when I'm forty. And now it's like
and so And I know Jonas has a dairy issue.
He always has, probably since he was, you know, four
years old, but boy, that hit different.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, it's not so much of a dairy issue. There's
just certain things that decide. Yeah, those days are over, buddy,
Like it's not like it, I'm telling you. I mean
a little cereal.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Full full disclosure.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
One of the issues was I thought I was going
to share the milkshake with my wife, which she didn't
at all. After I when I initially got it, she
said she would. And I'm too stingy of a human
being and I hate wasting food, so I was like,
all right, now I feel like I'm obligated to drink
this whole thing even though I really didn't want it
and or needed, which led you, obviously again the urgency
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to get back home as soon as Paul.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I mean, I'm not an away game guy. I'm just
I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, I'm not either. But but even that now is
being you know, that's that's become more of a debate too,
start to be.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
And here's the issue is that ran through my head.
But when we initially walked in the bathroom's near the
front door and it smelled terrible, I was and then
I was thinking, like someone just absolutely blew this out,
like I'm not gonna follow that up. I mean, this
Stenchi alone led me to not want to go in there.
But also I'm thinking of my head, like buy to
use it. It's like everyone, everyone in the entire place
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is going to go as you.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah. That's the worst is when they think.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
It's your Oh damn.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Meanwhile, all right, we get it, we get it.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Sorry.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
Meanwhile, it's like, yeah, so what what's right that in
fact I'm the person I made it smell like yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It is two pros and a Cup of Joe here
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Speaker 2 (26:57):
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Speaker 10 (27:00):
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Speaker 3 (27:15):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
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special edition of Lee's Leftovers as we celebrate.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Single Day Lapo.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
This song here on Fox Sports Radio, So that'll be
yours here again about ten minutes from now, LaVar Arrington.
You work with a couple of wide receivers on the weekend.
Your guy, Malik Neighbors. He was on the seven PM
in Brooklyn with Carmelo Anthony podcast Big Fan, and he
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had this to say about the wide receivers being DEEV label.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
When you tell a receiver he's gonna get about seven
catches a game. We calculating that out here. That's about it,
about one hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I need that for my thousand yards. I need that
to be in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 11 (28:10):
I need that to get in a bracket to where
I can get paid. So you're telling you talk about
that because that's just something that people don't. You got
three sometimes four out there on the field. You might
have four receivers out there in the field like everybody
expecting to probably get a ball. Plus now on top
of that, if you don't got four receivers, you got
tight and he's still running around. You might get a
running back. He run out. So there's five people out
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there running around now, and you tell me, you told
me I was gonna get the ball. I'm getting open
and I'm not getting that pill. We got a problem. Problem,
We got a problem.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
That's why you say receivers. Yeah, Like we're definitely a diva.
Speaker 11 (28:45):
Like I know for sure, like the people that I
played with and I like quarterback can tell you, like,
I ain't playing about that ball.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So there's your You got mylak neighbors breaking down the
wide receiver diva. All that work, all that effort not
to get the football, you feel unappreciated. I get it
makes sense to me now now I understand. Now I
have a little bit more sympathy for the wide receivers
being being deva labeled. And I wonder how that's gonna
(29:16):
land with Russell Wilson next year. He's out there slinging
it around and and he's letting him know he's not
happy about it.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
You, I mean, I get it, but football has always
been that way for the entirety of your career. So
I feel like there comes a certain age when receivers
feel like it's okay to act like.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That or to be like that.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
And I'm not saying they're wrong, because there's definitely some
receivers that deserve to get the ball whenever they're open,
and the offense should revolve around them. However, like if
you think about it, logically, you can't throw and target
them every single time. I mean, there's only a few
that could probably actually make a catch in double coverage
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every single time or beat double coverage every time. And
if you're that good of a receiver, I mean they're
going to try to take you away or limit you
in the game.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So are you able to move around?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Are you able to run a variety of routes.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Are you able to deal with that constant you know,
pressure or a jam at the line of scrimmage safe
you over top? Maybe some are, maybe some aren't. But
like I understand, they can be frustrated because they can
do everything they're supposed to do in their job. The
ball might not come to them. But imagine like being
a quarterback where you have to hope that they run
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the right route at the right distance and the right
spot versus the right coverage. On top of the fact
that you have to hope that you get the protection
the time you need to throw it from the offensive line,
and then hopefully everyone else goes where they're supposed to go.
Because of its zone coverage, you've got some sort of
combination that's high lowing a defender or creating a triangle reader,
creating some sort of window within the zone coverage to
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throw the football, or if it's man coverage, everyone's running
the right route they're supposed to be running because it
might be clearing it out for someone else.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
So if anyone.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Should be frustrated or acting like a diva, it's probably
a quarterback. Because there's no position that every single person
impacts their job on every play more so than a quarterback.
But again there's not that perspective with wide receiver. But no,
because here's the other thing is we can't we can't
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really ever deliver a punch.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
It's it's very seldom and most quarterbacks are pocket passes.
There's some who would take off and run, but more
often than not, you're the nail, not the hammer. You're
sitting in the pocket. You're gonna get teed off on
by someone else who's probably got a pretty good running
start on you, right, And you could say we're are
like that at times, but there's also times where they
getting open field and make a move and make something happen,
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or they can run block and they can go, you know,
toss a guy down and take him into the bench.
So you don't really get that opportunity to ever really
even throw a punch back like you're your punch or
your counter is like you're getting ready to get hit
to deliver a strike, goes for a touchdown of the
guy and knocks you, you know, knocks you back, you know,
and you kind of get up and you could say
(32:26):
something if you want, but like that's it. You're not
able to physically ever really impart your will on anyone
on the football field for the most part.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Receivers number one, biggest divas number one, corners number two,
quarterbacks number three.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
I don't disagree with that. There's nothing to disagree with
on that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, and they're on an island. I get it. Those
are the three positions literally where you are by yourself.
You're on an island. And listen, quarterbacks have to depend
on you know, their their offensive linemen. They have to
depend on the blocking scheme. They got to depend on
if the receiver runs all the things that that you
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just said. You know, Corners they got to hope that
the rush gets there. But really, in reality, everything that
they have to do is it's just it's on them.
With receivers, I think they have to maybe depend on other,
you know, aspects of what the route progressions are. You know,
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does your quarterback have the ability to read the defense?
Is he fearless? Is he going to deliver the ball?
One thing I've I've I know about receivers they are
always open. I've never met a receiver that was not open.
That's that's that's first and foremost You'll never meet a
receiver that's worth his weight that isn't always open where
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you where you covered? No, I was open? Are you
sure you were open? I was open? How many times?
Every time? That's what most receivers will say to you.
So you know it takes a lot to be at
those two positions, honestly, and obviously goes without saying with
the quarterbacks position. So it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
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Speaker 10 (34:33):
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Speaker 3 (34:45):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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Speaker 2 (34:49):
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Speaker 3 (34:51):
Same time, same place, six am, Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific,
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Speaker 10 (35:25):
These might smell a little fun, that sounds incredible, but
they're still good.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Time to find out what's left.
Speaker 10 (35:33):
It's Lee's left Joe.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
All right, and there's nobody who can break down the
proper way to take in a whitewash Mexican holiday like
Cinco de Mayo lead to lap.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
What do we got that's right?
Speaker 12 (35:44):
Cinco to maas forst the day we all celebrate Mexico's
victory over the French at the Battle of Puebla eighteen
sixty two.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
The Mexicans don't, but we do. We do.
Speaker 12 (35:55):
You know it became big in the sixties and seventies
until it was commercial lose we by the way, as gringos.
We celebrated who's us gringos?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
By the way, why are you talking like that, lady?
That way you selling Jonas yelling out his dead dog.
I know the way I talk man O mass oh nobody.
Speaker 12 (36:15):
Well, the best way to celebrate it, of course, is
with a cold servesa breathing on.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
You're breathing all over me.
Speaker 13 (36:27):
That woman got the baggage. She got the baggage claim
and died. She was getting zipped up toe tags on.
Well leads at the liquor store.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Now everybody later, everybody.
Speaker 12 (36:43):
Well, of course, best way to celebrate single to myo
or single to DRIs with a cold servesa. What is
your surveys of choice going to be? Corona Modello? Pacifico?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Pacifico's my my Modello like is and always will be.
Speaker 12 (36:58):
I like Bohemia and Victoria. Those are real good, the harder,
harder to find, but very good. Just wait until that
stick city logger comes hitting y'all. Y yeah, did I
try it? By the way, Yeah, I know you didn't Cuba,
and I said, I know you didn't, but you guys
were at my tailgate.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I didn't have them there that way. Okay, all right, Australia,
very good.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Tip of the trade.
Speaker 12 (37:25):
If you are stuck with takati, which isn't the best, carry.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Around some beer salt, which I often do beer salt.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
What's the where do you.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Drink beer so often you carry around beer salt with you?
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah, I got different flavors.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I got limes, so it was like your cell phone wallet,
beer salt.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Joss it.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's what we were in for the draft.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
We were walking in Vegas and we had to run
into this like little side store on the strip to
get beer salt.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Like, why do you need that? He goes, no, you
never know.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Never know what fear salt. He was just pouring it
in his piers to make him taste.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
They got to meet you a lot of flavored one.
It's really good.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
What kind of flavorly?
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Meet you a lota?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Are you gonna have one this morning?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
I'll take a nap after that.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, sure right, I'll probably wait till afternoon. But yes, okay,
So y'all don't have a Cinco de Mayo date going today?
Do you want to have a Sinco di dato? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (38:25):
We could do that. See there you go and see
you also want to have with your beer.
Speaker 12 (38:29):
You gotta enjoy a tequila from your favorite non Mexican
celebrities like costam egos from George Clooney, eight eight from
Kendall Jenner, Teremana from The Rock Sinkotto from Michael Jordan. Okay,
you can get some mescal instead from Dos Ombres, Ryan
Cranston and an Er.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
I mean, like, what's happening?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Really?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Are are you turning into like one of those cartoons
on TV and my kids watch with a Hispanic accent?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah, you gotta get the fluctuation.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It did you say? It? Was it? Kendall Jenner's tequila boy?
What way to go? All Hispanic on us? Right?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Like you couldn't you like you couldn't come up with
like you put an oho in there, anything like eight
one eight, it's like eight oh five.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It's a beer, Come on, get a better name and
break though? Is it? Yeah? I don't know. I've had it, Lee,
I have a bottle in my house right now.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
In the fact, Lee, do you have any advice for
people that maybe don't want to spend a significant amount
of money on some of these famous tequilas. Is there
a certain brand that you could go into a liquor
store and get a like bang for your buck?
Speaker 12 (39:33):
What would you say, Well, you don't want to get
through the quervo that's that's that's garbage. But you might
want to get some morenitos or some uh karamina karamina
gold repicidle.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
What does the mini bottle that go for? Oh lee,
what would you be buying?
Speaker 8 (39:51):
What?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
What's the cheapest tequila that you'll be buying?
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I'll go Ornitos. I like ornitos.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
That'll such you backup? Oh?
Speaker 12 (39:58):
I mean if you're getting like the the little bottle,
not like a not like an airplane bottle, but a
little bottle is like eight bucks, eight nine bucks, go
with that.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
That's solid.
Speaker 12 (40:07):
And then of course, you know load up your plastic
flasks because they're gonna charge you at the door for
a Mexicano.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Don't do that. Just go your flask.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Are you strapped?
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Yeah, let's go and then just.
Speaker 12 (40:17):
Go to your glass, go to your local talk, and
then go support your local taco.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Around You can get.
Speaker 12 (40:28):
Store carnitas, but why not get something fun on single
to mile, get some bidia, some beef cheek, Get some
luce or some Lingua Langua's beef tongue, or some buce,
which is pig stomach.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Get some cabsa head meat what.
Speaker 12 (40:44):
Yeah, don't do trip I don't like trip tripees gross,
It's Intestine, some hit mate.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, cabsa what
Speaker 6 (40:57):
That'll be one ninety nine for the taco