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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 6 (01:22):
I've been hit y' all with stuff? Can I can
I hit you all with something real quick? I know
we're off the top, but can I hitch you all with.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Something real quick?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Through the hundred, one hundred men versus the one dude
one hundred gorillas or one gorilla versus one hundred dudes.
So the security guard that was protecting Ivanka Trump, you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Surfaced on the social web.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
She's tall, and so the security guard pushes a onlooker
or media or fan or spectator. I don't know what
you want to call it. Was he right or was
he wrong? Did you guys see the video? Was he
right or was he wrong? If you're the security guard
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in that situation, do you do you push the guy?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Or if it's a matter of safety, you would say
he's in the right because that guy was in the.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
Path of where they were walking.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You don't know what that person's intentions are, whether they
look like they're part of the media, they look like
some bystander. You can make a case that the way
he would justify it is he's get out of the way.
This is where they're walking. You know, you don't know
what he's trying to do. I mean, there's crazy people
out there. So from the security, you know, personnel standpoint,
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I can understand what he did and why he did it.
Now after the fact, you know it was he somewhat
with the media. Was he you know, did he actually
have some credentials?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Did he have anything? We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But I would say in general, Okay, if someone like
that is walking by and they have security, you're probably
gonna get out of the way. That's just common sense.
And am I wrong in that?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
You can't take any chance on it nowadays? You can't
take chances nowadays. And it's not like he assaulted the
guy just shoved them, nice little shove, forceful.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But a shove.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
It's so funny because the reason why I asked is
because I was reading the comments on the post, right,
and so many people were like, oh, I would have
beat the security guards ass so this.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Was in Texas.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
You had to stand your ground, right and this, that
and the other, and you know he was too aggressive.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And this and that and the other.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
And I was like, man, it's like interesting because it's
like the craziness of the dichotomy there right in terms
of you have a vunka Trump and you have a
black security guard.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah. I mean like it was kind of it's kind
of interesting.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
But down start, like I really really studied it. I
broke it down like it was a football play. Right,
they're walking out, the guy starts v lining towards her.
He's walking towards her. So you got a front and
you got a six, right, so you got one who's
taking the front.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You got one who protects the back. And the back
the six.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Like cuts them off with his arm, Like he puts
his arm there and cuts cuts him off, like, you know,
don't go any closer, Like that's that's that a dude
right there.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
The guy actually shoved him.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
He shoved the security guard, and that's when the security
guard turned around and pushed him.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So I look at like this. You know, I'm a protector.
I'm a linebacker.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Like we're aggressive dudes by nature, but we also look
at it like, all right, we're protecting our defensive line,
our defensive front, and we're the guys that keep them
away from the secondary guys cause we know they don't
most of them don't want to come up and get
that smoke.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So so where are the guys? Right?
Speaker 6 (04:56):
So when I look at stuff like that, like I'm
looking at it like all right, you know it should have.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Been just an easy exchange.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Like you know, people are saying, oh, he should have
gave him a you know, don't go any further, or
he should have gave him verbal verbal commands like you
know this first of all, if you don't have enough
common sense to know that you shouldn't be walking towards
that lady in particular, like you don't have enough common
sense to know that who that is and her walking
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to her car or to her vehicle, you don't have
enough common sense. That's one thing, like that's on you,
like let nature take its course with you. But then
you shove the security and I would assume that that's
as high level security as it gets. So there's probably
even either a marshal or some type of somebody that's
connected to the military or FBI or CIA. I don't
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know what they're connected to, but there's some type of
somebody where that man would probably have within the rights
of our laws to really shut that dude down, like
shut him down, I would assume. So my whole thing
is why is well, we turned so many things into
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political debates and stuff like that and craziness like that.
But I just thought I was curious to know what
y'all's opinion on it would be, because it's like everybody
is finding way social media has created this phenomenon of
choosing sides, like like choose a side like And I
know it's always existed in politics, and I try to
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stay away from politics, and I don't you know, the
only politics I connect to this is that she's.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
The daughter of our president. That is it.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Otherwise I'm just looking at it, like even if that
was a celebrity, which I think, it's even more high
profile that you're actually the daughter of the president, Like,
that's the daughter of the president.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I don't know. I thought it was interesting anyways.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I just wanted to he's got he's got a job
to do. He shove the guy.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
He didn't throw him down a flight of stairs. He
didn't pistol whip him. He just shoved him. So that's
a big deal. You gotta be careful with the Stallions.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
and Ox with you. So we mentioned this that, you know,
somebody's got an idea on how to improve a bad
football team. Last year, by definition, the Dallas Cowboys were
a bad football team.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
They needed a bodyguard.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
No Stallions there.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Brian Schottenheimer's the brand new head coach there in Dallas,
shoddy as people call him, and he talked about the strategy.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
He's got a new idea.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
He's gonna move lockers around and move some things around
for this upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
We moved some guys around this year. I did, along
with the help of the staff. Again, they don't they
don't really get a saying that, But there's a method
to the madness. I think when the guys went into
the team team room for the first time, I made
them all stand up. After they sat down, I let
them sit down and I had them stand up and
I had a move seats. Why it's a new year,
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it's twenty twenty five, We'll do that in twenty twenty six,
We'll do that in twenty twenty seven and beyond. I
think it's just when you start a new year, do
something different, you know, change something up. So it's something
that's talked about, thought about. But there's a method to
the madness at times.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Now, the real stunner in all this is that even
after all that their Super Bowl odds didn't change on drafts.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Godly, that's good day.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
I was like, Yeah, that's gonna do it. That's gonna
that'll do it.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
That'll Jill sitting at that damn seventy to one to
win it all.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's a shame I do.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I've said this before on the show, and I do
truly believe this. I hate change for change's sake. However,
there are times when I feel like change is needed,
and so I don't feel like that phrase even makes
any sense.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Then these are small.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Things that if you're trying to work on team chemistry
or team building, that's probably why you do them, to
make sure both sides of the ball understand what the
other side of the ball is trying to accomplish and
developing deeper relationships with those guys. So it's not just
about the offense, defense, special teams. There's more of a
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shared love for one another and your teammate. It's a
small thing in the end. Does it add up to
be enough to help this team get over the hump,
win some playoff games, get to a super Bowl, win
a super Bowl? Probably not, but at least they're trying
to do something different. I just I've been a part
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of teams that did stuff like this, and I always
thought it's less efficient for a quarterback to not be
with the other quarterbacks or near other offensive players. Because
oftentimes in the locker room, when it's before practice, after meetings,
it could be before a walkthrough, it could be after practice,
you have the opportunity to break some stuff, talk about
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some things, maybe before the guy goes home, or maybe
before the guy you know, goes out onto the field
and you just installed something, so you can, you know,
give him some answers, or you can talk about how
you're seeing it or how they were they were taught
to do it. It just it makes it harder to
do that when you're sitting, you know, amongst different guys.
You got to find the guy's lock you gotta figure
out where it's at, and then you're talking to one guy,
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not the entire position group.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
So I've never been a fan of it.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I think this kind of tells you whether Dallas Cowboys
are at right, like almost like this offseason they made
a change because you know, it's new year to make
a change, right, Like, I mean, what Mike McCarthy wasn't
good enough for you, so you go with Brian Schottenheimer,
who's less experienced, maybe even less prepared for that role.
(10:51):
I mean literally, the decision of Brian Schottenheimer reflected the
decision of Jerry Jones this offseason.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
With this entire thing in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood, a beautiful day
in this neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Won't you be mine? Won't you be mine? Won't you
be my neighbor?
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Like I f out of here with that, mister Rogers
neighborhood types. This is grown ass men, man, grown ass men.
You mean you don't get a say, a choice, and
of course you don't, generally speaking, you get assigned a locker.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Like, okay, you come into the locker.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Now, if you got a guy that's a vet and
they've been there for a while and they had the
same locker. You're gonna uproot that man out of his locker.
So you're telling me I came into the locker room
and one of the guys that was near me was
Daryl Green. So you're going to come in and say yeah,
for the sake of the shakeup of what we got
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going on with our locker room and with our team,
we're gonna move Daryl Green's locker.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Man, you must be out of your mind, like.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
If you you what the what if you want to
come in and make a statement. Listen, I know, I know,
I know Brian, I know I know him and he
was a part of Washington when I was there. His
dad was most like, literally one of my favorite coaches
of all time.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
God rest his soul. Marty was one of my favorite coaches.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
And a lot of the friction that he ran into
in d C was with veterans because he was.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Going to do it his way.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
They called it Marty ball and and the vets didn't
like him at all. They did not care for him,
did not like him. That was the Bruce Smith.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Pray pray for why pray for some of this.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Matt and that's going on around here and so but Brian,
you used to learn from the mistakes of the past.
And I said that Marty isn't wasn't a successful coach
in the league. But you know this two twenty five, man,
you're getting your opportunity to be a head coach. The
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one thing you don't want to do is start off on.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
The wrong foot.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
And the worst thing you could do is have your
veterans looking at you like, bro, I'm not a child.
In fact, I have children. I have five of them.
I have four of them, I have three of them. Like,
you don't have to treat me like a child. This
is the profession. This is the professional level. So if
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you're putting in a system of seating charts and all
that stuff and where people's lockers are, at least have
a conversation with your vets. At least make sure that
you have the support and the understanding of your veterans,
because if you go into it with that, they don't
have a choice.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You've already set a tone. You've already set a tone.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
And you're not coming in with accolades that would say,
you know what, we should trust what he's saying, What
has Brian Schottenheimer done where a veteran would sit there
and be like, yup, we got to do everything that
he says. If we do it, we're going to go
to the Promised Land. It's like what I said with
Robert Lorri the other day yesterday maybe where you say,
like JJ Reddick talking about they need to be in
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championship condition.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
What does he know about championship condition? You know?
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Now, Brian Schottenheimer has been a part of successful, successful
coaching staff, but he's never been a head coach and
he's never won a championship as a head coach. To me,
I think it's the wrong approach if you're going to
endear yourself to the guys that matter the most, the
core nucleus, the guys on your team, which he already
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has a relationship with some of them. Anyway, I still
think that the most wise and prudent way to get
to where you're trying to get to what a group
of adults is to get in cahoots and be on
the same page with them in terms of parts of
what your plan is. You don't have to just close everything,
but you need to let them know some of the things,
and especially if it's going to be in like an
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authoritative way where it's like you're moving your locker or
you're gonna sit here like man Cat's come in there,
mixing their coffee and cocoa and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Like that, trying to wake their asses up.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Some of these dudes then been up all night with
their kid, trying to make sure their kid goes to bid.
Some of these dudes is studying their playbooks.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Da die this night.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
You coming into the meetings, it's early, it's afternoon, it's late,
you're tired, you're fatigued.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You come, you sit down.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
It's like, come on, man, Like if I've been sitting
in this seat for the last three, four or five years,
do not mess with me on stuff like that. There's
bigger there's bigger hills to stand on and fight on
and die on. Don't stand on that one and don't
die on that one. I don't even care. If that's
to try to set a tone and mix things up,
you're starting off on the wrong foot.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
If you ask me, so, let me ask you this, Jonas.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Does that sound like Levar's being over the top about
his locker? No, No, I'm just I'm asking honestly, because
your locker is a little bit of like a sacred place.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
It's gonna sound.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Corny, but to that point, it's the only thing in
the facility that feels like it's your property, right, Like
it's the only place that feels like your place to
deal with, whether it's the stress, the pressure, whether it's
just a moment to like decompress, whether you're going back
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to check your phone, saying something to one of your
loved ones.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
You know, it's it's weird.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And until LeVar was literally just saying this, I never
really fully thought of it this way.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
It's not weird for people that work in an office job.
I've had a cubicle before.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Like it's this little enclosure and it's like, but if
somebody were to come in there and start moving your
stuff around, or just you would come in there one
day and all your stuff would be moving, they tell
you to go to another place, it would kind of
throw you off a little bit, like hold on this.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, that's why when when someone takes something out of
your locker, like it's it's a fight and you know.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It, right, that's the thing. Think about it, somebody removed
something from your locker, you'd be like, wait, who took
my speed stick? You nasty mother efforts? Where's my where's
my deodorant?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
I don't know if I'm actually throwing down over a
speed stick, but.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
It's the only place that you feel like is yours,
and it's the closest thing.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
To a cubicle that you have in the facility.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You know, your position, meeting rooms, you've got a spot
or a debt whatever. It doesn't really feel like that.
It's just it's hard to explain because it's more of
a shared space. Your locker is yours, like that's your spot,
and if it gets moved or someone takes something out
of it, like you take offense to that. You know,
you're a lot of times when you're when you're released
or when you leave there, you kind of look back
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up at the locker like that's what you're clearing out there.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You go and you clear it out.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
If you're blessed enough, you clear it out, don't nobody, Hey, hey,
and I love my like Brad Berlin and Anders and
all of them, like the LA Nation, our equipment managers
when it was time, like when they say take you
out on your shield, leave on your shield.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's cleaning your locker out.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
If you're blessed enough to be in the league long
enough and have established something. If you leave the organization
you're in and you've been there for a while, you
clean your locker out if that place mattered to you
and what you did matter to you. I cleaned my
locker out and I had my final look at my locker,
the only I've had two lockers in my pro career,
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and I spent five years in one. I spent five
years in one, and when I left Washington, that was
that was like a moment like that was like the
end of the of the series, like you talk about
the final chapter or the final page of the story.
I cleaned out my locker so so understanding the sentimental.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Value of all the memories.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
They called our area park place, like there was like
different parts of the board around our locker room, like
you had Baltic Ave.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Like that was like fifteen twenty dollars a buy.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
I was in the area with all the high rollers
because I was a high draft pick. So it was
like Darryl Green and Big Daddy Wilkinson and Marco Coleman
and Canard Lane and Chris Samuels, Dion Sanders. We were
all in the same corner. And let me tell you something.
I watched guys come and go. By the time I
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was at the end of my career, I was the
old head and I had only.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Been there for four or five years.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Right, Darryl Green was gone, Big Daddy Wilkinson gone, Marco
Coleman gone.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
All of them were gone. So that that was like
my space. That was me and Chris space. They were
all gone.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
We were like the only ones that were the originals
that were left. You know, there's certain things you just
that are sacred to us. Don't mess around with that,
man like that. That's a battle you don't need to
get into.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Man.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
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Speaker 7 (20:34):
I believe you hit my pepler.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up a little over fifteen minutes from now, we are
going to close up shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That'll be U yours here on FSR.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Right now, though, we turn it over to our good buddy,
Pete Prisco, Senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports dot Com,
CBS Sports HQ analyst And if you want that smoke
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will at Prisco, CBS. Pete, good morning, are we feeling hello?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Pete?
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Back from the met gala last night? It was it
was amazing. I had such a great time. You should
have seen what you should have seen what I wore?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Yeah, what would you wear?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
A pee?
Speaker 7 (21:30):
You love dressing up?
Speaker 9 (21:31):
I mean I don't understand. Who gives a crap? Are
we serious with this? Oh my gosh, the Met Gala?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I mean, were you at Lebron's table?
Speaker 9 (21:41):
Oh so he didn't show up, right he was?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh, apparently he was planning on if he wasn't hurt,
and I guess if there was still the playoffs?
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Is that how that works?
Speaker 9 (21:53):
I mean, it's it's unreal. The whole thing is unreal.
I just I mean, everybody sits there. Oh my god,
look at that outfit. You wouldn't wear that outfit anywhere
other than the Met Galla, right, I mean, it's all
I mean, I don't I never quite understand that kind
of thing.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Educate me on what the met Gala is.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
I I have no idea, LeVar, come on, you're into
that that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I've never been to the Met Gala, never.
Speaker 9 (22:18):
Lived on the East You lived on the East Coast
and you were a successful football player. I figured you've
been at the Metcala.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
I don't fit the criteria of what, uh you know
what what football players and athletes do, So I apologize
for that kind of stay out of the way, but
I do know a lot of athletes do go to
the Met gala. I know it's in New York City
or whatever, and they raise money for I don't even
know what the cause is, but I heard it's a
good cause.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
It's the Costume Institute Benefit, Okay is what is what
it is, And it raises money for the Museum's Costumes
to Do, which houses a collection of fashion artifacts from
the fifteenth century to the present.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Sounds like something Lee would be into this.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It sounds so like in material.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Oh God, can't you raise money for a better cause?
But I mean, exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Funny thing about it.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
The funny thing about it is they think so many
people care about it, and there's you could go anywhere
in the Midwest and not find one person who even
knows what.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
The hell it is.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Yeah, but it makes sense. I mean, to put on
those outfits is for like costumes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It makes sense. Hey, did you see Pamela L Anderson there?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Though?
Speaker 6 (23:27):
I mean I heard she was like the talk of
the whole deal because she doesn't her She doesn't even
look like pam anders And like, if you weren't paying attention,
you might have walked right past her and didn't even
know you were seeing Pamela Anderson's whatever yeah.
Speaker 9 (23:40):
It did. I I saw the picture and I didn't
know who that was.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I'll be honest with you. I got to see that.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I just you know, she looks like a different person.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
But like gone to this whole thing where she goes
down and doesn't wear makeup and stuff too, I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Correct, yeah, yeah, oh you know what good for her? Yeah,
you know, and another all of that.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Yeah, you know, I just heard she was the headline
of the metcalis. I just figured out, asked Pete, since
he was, I.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Mean, you know, some of it's still the same, but yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
No, no it's not No, it's not no, no, no,
that was that was that was handled too.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
So Pete, I do have a question for you. Your guy,
Justin Tucker clearly a football decision for the Baltimore Ravens.
It couldn't have been anything else. It had to be
because he was struggling last year on the field.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Correct.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
No, I mean it's a combination of he was not
worth the aggravation anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That's what I look at it.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
I mean, look, the guy has sixteen people saying he
did it. Now, I mean that's something that has to
be impacted in when you make a decision like that,
and so I think that's ultimately why the decision was made.
He did. Look, he wasn't a good kicker last year.
He was average as they come. And he's been one
of the greatest kickers in the history of the league,
no question about it. But he started to go bad.
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And we know when kickers start to go bad, they
usually go really bad. But you know, combine it with
everything else. I mean, they what took him so long?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's the question.
Speaker 9 (25:08):
I guess they allowed the new process to play out
to see what happened. But again, it was not strictly
a football This isn't care what they say.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Uh, Pete, I want to ask you just about some
of the aftermath and the stuff that we've heard about
Shadeur getting drafted, and just giving you a chance just
to look at the situation there in Cleveland, how would
you summarize how this is all going to work out,
not only for Shadeur but even just who's gonna be
the starter there in Cleveland?
Speaker 9 (25:38):
Well, I think Flacco would be the starter to start
the season. Uh. But you know it's amazing though, it's
all shaudor Shoud or Shaud or Shador they did draft
the quarterback before him. In case anybody's wondering, Yeah, you know,
nobody ever talks about Dylan Gabriel. I mean he was
picked to Should he have been picked where he was picked?
I don't think so. But he was picked the head
of Shador Sanders, and so it's all about sa Door Sanders,
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And it's almost unfair to Dylan Gabriel because he goes
into that camp as the guy who was picked before him. So, look,
it is Shador Sanders a fifth round pick? Probably not?
Is he a fourth third, fourth round pick? Probably? So
does he have a chance to go in and put
everything he did, you know, in college, and everything he
did playing the game to the test and show people
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he can be a quarterback? Absolutely, So here's your opportunity.
Go take advantage of it. If you don't, then you
went in the right spot. If you do, then the
NFL made an error. But personally, I never thought he
was a first round pick. I didn't. He wasn't in
my first round mock. He wasn't in who they should
in the first round lock. I thought he'd go before
he went, But I just never saw first round talent there.
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The NFL loves traits. We know that when you look
at him, what traits does he have that make you
go wow? There aren't a lot of them, and that's
why he lasted. Some of it's why he lasted as
long as he did had to do with off the
field stuff, but I think most of it had to
do with the fact that he's not a first round talent.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Pete, who did you look at coming out of the
draft and now that you had a little bit more
time to maybe sit on it and kind of let
it all settle down, the dust settled down.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Who do you think had the best draft?
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Well, I'll tell you what I gave. I graded them
all and I gave out three a's and one was
to Kansas City, who I think had a terrific draft.
I love what they did and I'm really really bullish
on getting that offensive tackle that they got, Josh Simmons
out of Ohio State. I think he's going to be
the best offensive lineman in his class and they've had
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problems there for a long time. When he's healthy, he's
going to be a big time starter for him. I
think they added to the receiver room, which was important.
I love their draft. I love what Tampa Bay did.
I think, you know, Tampa Bay, everybody killed them for
taking the wide receiver in the first round them. When
you look at it, Mike Evans getting up in the years,
Godwin coming off a major injury. I think, you know,
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this is one of those guys that everybody, every scout
personnel guy you ever talked to, said, he's the pro
pro in that building. He will be terrific for them.
And then they come back and get corners. They got
the Notre Dame kid Morrison who was hurt last year,
big time player, They got the Kansas State corner. Is
gonna be a good nickel for them. I love what
they did. And then Jacksonville had a great draft. You
go get Travis Hunter. I mean, you go make that
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move to go get that guy. And now you have
Brian Thomas on one side and Travis Hunter and the other. Wow,
And so I think those are the three teams that
kind of hit it. I also like getting Tooting for Jacksonville,
the running back at the Virginia Tech, big time player,
the Ramsaw kid. They got the safety. You know he
played corner at in college. He's a kid, Toulane. You
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look at him. My gosh, he's going to be a
big time safety for him too, So I thought Jacksonville
kind of hit their draft as well.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Get
him on x at Prisco CBS. We were talking about
the Brian Schottenheimer decision to move players lockers round in
the locker room, you know, just try and change things up.
Whatever you make of that. You go into this year
and it feels like Dallas has gotten worse than last year,
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and last year they were bad. What is your expectation
of how this year plays out for the Cowboys?
Speaker 9 (29:18):
I always thought the moving of the lockers is corny.
I mean, you know, it just put him by position groups.
That's what I always thought. You know, it's corny. Well,
we're going to now this guy is going to get
to know this guy, and therefore he's going to be
a better teammate. And now why can't it happen naturally?
I mean, isn't that kind of the way of the world.
When you were in high school, did you get forced
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to sit at a lunch table or did you sit
at a lunch table with people you knew and you liked.
It's okay to you know, it's okay to let it
happen naturally. Instead, we're in a time when everybody wants
to let's move him over here, so he becomes his buddy.
And when he becomes his buddy and they make a
couple of jokes to each other, they're going to go
out on the football field and be better for football players.
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I don't get it. Let it happen naturally. I don't understand.
I never have. And you guys, and you guys were
in NFL locker rooms. I mean, how did you handle that?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
No, Moss, Yeah, we've talked about it at length. I
just it's your It's the one one thing that's kind
of yours in the facility. And to have someone just
kind of randomly move it around, and also not being
around guys in your position group, guys on your side
of the ball, it doesn't make any sense to me.
It's not the most efficient way to be able to
put together your locker room.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
Would he would you have comments at my lunch table
in high school?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Of course you'd been you.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
You'd have been the freaking talk of the town man
like you would have been where everything was happening. You know,
if a food, if a food fight broke out. Pete
Prisco started, trust man, I can I can guarantee.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
That it would be like broad shoulders the table. Well,
I'm not going nowhere.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
You know what we used to do, like one time
there was it was just like a janitor walk around
if you left your plate there, you know, he gets
he gets so worked up, he starts getting angry and everything.
So we just ultimately just started leaving him to irritate him.
And he caught me once and he goes and they
came out and they said, you're going to clean up
the whole cafeteria now, and I go, okay, So I
started and because he got me and I got mustard
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on my shirt and I said, I'm done. And you
know what they did. They brought me to the dean's
office and the dean told me he was going to
paddle me with a paddle and I said, no, you're not.
And so I go call my mom and he called
my mom, got rest your soul, and she said, nobody
hits my kid except for me, And so they put
me in. They put me in three days in detention.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
We're not spoking, spoken like a great mom.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Wow, Pete, I wanted to ask you something in regards
to the tush push, which it feels like there's more
momentum to get it changed.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
You were at the owner's meetings, did you get.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
A sense that they were going to punt on that,
you know, back a month or so ago to then
revisit this and come up with a solution to get
rid of it out of the game.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
These meetings where it's just the owners, it's hard to eat. Look,
if they have a decision made, it's get it's gonna
get voted one way or the other, you know what
I mean. There's no debate. That's done. So if the
decision whatever happens, if they do vote on it and
they decide to change it, that decision has been made
and that therefore there's no pushback. There's no gms in there,
there's no coaches in there. It's just owners, and so
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they vote on it. So whatever, if it's made by now,
that's a decision that will get voted on at the
next meeting. I don't think it's getting voted out. I'll
be honest with you, I don't. I think they'll take
with for a year and see how it goes, and
then go back and try and revisit it next year.
And again, my feeling is, I hate the play. I
think it's boring. I think it's a rugby play, but
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it's something that they came up with. They executed their
precision with it, So find some way to stop it.
If you can't, then oh well, I mean, look, you
know me, Brady, I hate plays like that. It's boring
to me. But I think they've they've kind of figured
it out. Until you figure out how to stop it,
they're going to keep doing it.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Pete Prisco your NFL columnist for CBS Sports CBS Sports
h Q analysts, and again, if you want some of
that smoke, you can get him on X at Crisco CBS. Pete,
how are the mentions? By the way, is anybody giving
you a hard time lately?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Or do you? Uh?
Speaker 6 (33:14):
The draft?
Speaker 9 (33:14):
The draft stuff, the draft stuff. I got some crap
back on some people, but that's okay. I expect that.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
And you've got more crap your Trepasso with your draft grades.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
No, I always get you know, I do the first
round and I don't do the round after that. Somehow
I get smoke for his grades that go on and
on and on and I'm like, I don't do those.
I mean, come on, by the way I do grade
the overall draft.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
I did notice the difference and how succinnct you can
be with your comments, where yours are like a sentence
and Trepasso writes an entire paragraph like trying to explain himself,
and you're just like, like, the pick should be Okay,
good player, good value.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
Brady didn't you didn't you end him about like a
decade ago when we were on the air, I mean
it bring Brady abused him.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
One day I did not.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Okay, look, here's the whole story. I was off camera.
He was talking on a one shot. He tried to
compare Mason Rudolph Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott coming out of college.
That was his comp Who mind you ran for over
a thousand yards I think in back to back seasons
at Mississippi State and Mason Rudolph, who was very reluctant
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to run, if ever, and there was just a star
contrast between the two as prospects. I think you'd still
probably make that case as quarterbacks. Now that being said,
I don't think I ended his career. I just got
caught in a moment where our producer thought it'd be
funny because of my reaction to that was I was flabbergasted.
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I had no idea how he saw any comparison between
what is a dual threat quarterback and a prototypical pocket
passer between those two. That was what got caught. And
then to this day says I ended his career because
I reacted like that on camera.
Speaker 9 (35:01):
By the way, Jonas and LeVar know this. You got Brady.
He got Brady.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You know got Brady. Definitely, we all know what Brady is.
You know that.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
I love how your coach signed with Pete LeVar.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Yeah, just one time every once in a while.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
You know, I don't know what that is. I don't
know what that is.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
You got Brady, you got you got to get a
hold of hell hold hold.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
Of gives you that smug look and he looks around
and he says, well, you never You can't say the bar,
but he can say you never played the game.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You are no.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
What's me too.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Ever said that to you, Pete.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I've never said you've never played the game.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Pete.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
You look over, Pete, the locker room you were you
just were in.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
There doing okay, okay, Ar LeVar, is heca Pete would
always say, well, I've been in the locker rooms before.
I said, no, Pete, the locker room that we know
is the locker room when you're fifteen, twenty minutes is
done and you guys leave.
Speaker 7 (36:01):
I was like, then it starts to become the locker room.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
It's true.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Is that fair enough?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's fair. I understand that.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
I understand it's dimperent, I get it. But I believe me,
I've been in many a locker room, and I've yelled
at many a player of my day, and I've been
threatened by many a player in my day. And if
we had that video from when I was covering the
Jaguars back in the nineties, it would be just gold
to put up every single day.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I mean, all I know is.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
If you hear fingers going, you're about to get bradied.
That's all I would saying that. Some people call it bodied,
we call it Brady.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Get Brady.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
You get Brady, and the boy changes into like, well,
you know, well.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
LeVar, I mean, let me let me just say this.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Let me just say this. I've worked with Brady long
and anybody. I think he's an excellent teammate. I don't
know what you get.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I do too. I do too.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
I'm top Brady, Get out of here, Get out of
toped on that he's.
Speaker 9 (36:54):
A great teammate, but he also has that that those
moments when he gives.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
You that look and let me tell you someone, this
is Italian on Italian crime right now. I don't appreciate it.
Come on, they already took Columbus. Stay away from.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Us, Pete tang Hell no, we won't go take us
to the break.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
We gotta go, Pete.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Ah, there he goes, smooth operator Pete Prisco with us
here on Fox Sports Radio at Prisco.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
CBS, Columbus Day. He can't help himself.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Man, he's got to start for problems, all right, coming
up next, So we are going to close up shop
on this Tuesday morning with Lee's leftovers here at FSR.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
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Speaker 4 (38:14):
These might smell a little fun, that sounds incredible, but
they're still good.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
Time to find out what's lap?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's Lee's lap.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Jos all right to laugh? What do we got?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Well?
Speaker 10 (38:25):
Thank goodness, we got the met Gala out of the way,
so we don't have to talk about that.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
How about this?
Speaker 10 (38:30):
Tomorrow is the deadline for your real ID. If you
want to travel, just even domestically, or go into federal
buildings such as nuclear power plants, you know, because we
do that very often, you're gonna need a real.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
ID passport or real D passport or real ID.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
You know, you know, what what inform people out there?
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (38:50):
You know what drives me crazy is I You know,
it's been well documented on the show that I had
my wallets, like I lost my wallet and I had
to get a new No, it was a different incident,
but yeah, there you Mike and the voice, he might.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
It will happen again.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
It's going to be your alter ego. Who doesn't.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
But I had to replace my ID, and I did it,
and I just thought, I assumed that it would of
course be a real ID, and then of course I
get it and they're like, hey, by the way, if
you want to upgrade to a real ID, I was like,
why would you not just give me the real ID
at this point? Why would you would you give another
idea that isn't the ID?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Would you would? Would? That drives me crazy?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
What you want?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
You have your passport, so you're okay. I do have
my passport. You're okay, it's good for now.
Speaker 9 (39:36):
Me.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
I don't have a past so I can't go. You
don't have a passport either, or real D.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I'm working though, I'm working on all of it. So
they say, they say you can work or.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Conversation, and I'm gonna get that whole t s a
deal too, Jonah, oh the fast track.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, you gottah so good.
Speaker 10 (40:04):
And then uh also tomorrow starts the uh the papal conclave,
nineteen million dollars in bets already on uh on who
the news hope will be?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Yeah, maybe, uh like that Jesus will show up. And
I think it's very fitty geez.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
Really he would ask some insider information.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
I would agree. It feels like a possibility.