May 6, 2025 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Airings Win and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The Baltimore Ravens have made a decision, and that decision
is Justin Tucker. It's been nice to know anybody h
and and that is that. That is that for the
time of Justin Tucker as a Baltimore Raven. A long,
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legendary career from from Justin Tucker there in Baltimore and
the Ravens released a statement this from Eric Tacosta, their GM.
Sometimes football decisions are incredibly difficult, and this is one
of those instances. Considering our current roster, We've made the
tough decision to release Justin Tucker. He created many significant
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and unforgettable moments in Raven's history. His reliability, focused drive, resilience,
and extraordinary talent made him one of the league's best
kickers for over a decade. We are grateful for Justin's
many contributions while playing for the Ravens. We sincerely wish
him and his family the very best in this next
chapter of their lives. Not not not talked about in
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that little description was the NFL investigation that's still ongoing
because he's been accused of sixteen different massage therapists in
the Baltimore area for the inappropriate actions.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What we mentioned, you just got to read in between
the like you got it like kind of you know,
listen to what he's saying. Yeah, the memorable memory he's done,
you know.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
A couple of things here. Do you guys feel like
when a team makes a decision like this, they're on
the cusp of either punishing him or finding out like
they know more information. There's something that's going to come
out next. He's too good to be for it not
to be that, right, Well, he was too good until
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last had a rough year.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, but weren't you guys the one saying that.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
That's probably why he was struggling because in the back
of his mind, he's like, man, there's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Pressure on me right now. The masseuse is catching up
to me, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
And here's the worst part is, let's say, for example,
this is it feels hard again.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Okay, like that, let's let's go back. Let's go back,
because you have to approach it the same way we
did with DeShawn Watson. Where there's there's smoke, there's got
to be fire there. It's just it's too many. I
mean for starters.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I'll go back to the same thing I said about
the other Shaun Watson situation, why there's so many damn therapists,
Like he's been in Baltimore for how long and he's
got that many therapists. Like that's a problem. Like I
understand if you're trying to find one that you like
and you can kind of work with, because eventually, like
they need to know your body. They didn't know your
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routine and how you know, just kind of fix you
when things are wrong. The problem is now is like
every single massage therapist he ever, or you know, place
he goes to, spa, whatever, is always going to look
at him as you know, what's he gonna do here
we go, whether he's being good or not. But clearly
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there is something going on, like there's there's it's too
many massage therapists to not think that that something had
to have been going on. I wonder if there's like
sixteen others who would come in his defense and then
and then that makes it even look more ridiculous. So
I feel like there's something that's going to drop, whether
it's punishment whether something else comes out, there's gonna be
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something else there that's gonna come out otherwise. I'm not
really sure what this road leads for. Justin Tucker, I mean,
he's a Hall of Fame kicker. He just didn't take
that away last year.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Like if one came out and said, hey, he was
inappropriate to be like, all right, and you found enough evidence,
like no, okay, yeah, that's not great. Multiply that by sixteen,
like what's the defense here? Samely with Deshaun Watson, what's
the defense?
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Listen, that number is outrageous. All right, I'll tell you what.
We'll cut it in half. Let's call it even. We'll
make it thirty thirty accusations.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
All right?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Is everything better now? Like if it was only eight,
if it was four, if it was one, like the
whole thing, like it just it doesn't add up that
that many people at that many different locations would publicly
want to burn a bridge with an athlete unless there
was something to it. Like it just none of it
makes any sense. And I remember talking to Jerry Coleman,
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who covers the Ravens in Baltimore, and I thought the
same thing, like, oh, now we know why he was struggling,
and his thought on it was this was one of
the worst kept secrets in Baltimore. A lot of people
knew about it. And he said, the reason this stuff
started to come out last year is because people were
trying to figure out why he was struggling, and they
threw out the theory, Oh, maybe it's because he needs
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to go back to his old ways. And that's when
that stuff started to fire back up, and all of
a sudden, all these people are like, oh, yeah, me too.
It's multiple times over and just like the Watson stuff,
it's all the same story. Now, the details of the
story probably not suitable for for radio, but we'll just
say he left a parting gift in most of the encounters.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Is there and this is just me trying to see
both sides? Is there the chance?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Is there the chance that there is a trend that
is being created in terms of like this is becoming
popular culture to to actually pile on and have these
types and listen, I'm not saying it because I believe it,
like full disclosure, let me just give my disclamor I'm
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not saying I believe it. I'm just saying, is there
the chance because you're starting to see it's just like
and look it is what it is. It's almost like
the me too movement, right you start to see like, oh,
so I can benefit from from this. I get the
benefit of the doubt in this scenario. Let me throw
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my hat into the ring. Maybe I'll settle for fifty K.
I mean, I definitely might have been you know, consensual
in the situation whatever took place. But now that I
think about it, maybe I wasn't consensual. Let me, you know,
let me jump in on this. There's more validity to it.
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And in most cases, my name isn't going to come out.
And because there are some that may get settled, they
don't want to hear what I gotta say. So I'm
gonna catch it. I'm gonna cash a check too. It
could be a quick come up because people be popping up,
people pop up this whole the ladies that's talking about Shannon.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Right now, where's she come from? Like this?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I think the dude was still playing ball when when
the stuff happened with that lady?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh is there a new one?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
There's a new one.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And she's like all out here, like you know, all
I'm saying, is is there the chance is there a
chance that this could be misunderstandings in the situation.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Is there a chance sixteen of them?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I don't know. But here's what I'll say, is I
understand what you're asking. I think the quickest way of
describing it is or massage therapists in this case sing
an opportunity. And that's really what this comes down to.
I tend to say, no, this is not them singing like.
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That's not the issue of what's happening right now. The
issue is there's players, there's guys who feel like it's
it's okay and they're comfortable, you know, going in there
and thinking that it's not just about you know, getting
you know, a massage, like there should need more to that,
and that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I tendn't agree with you. I just thought i'd introduce
it to the conversation. I mean, I agree with but
I'm just saying, we do live in a culture in
a society now, whereas hey man.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I'm not trying, I'm not trying to focus on any
any one group of people, but I'm just saying I
got a lot of heathens from Jersey, and there's certain
guys that I know that. You know, that's how they
if you have a massage, you know, it's just that's
just how it is.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Here's my thing, though, there are like like Bobby orchids,
right there are places where, if that's.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
What you're thinking, they exist.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's the red open sign that's on twenty four hours
a day.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
What's sign you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
It's called open, That's what.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
That's all I'm saying, Like, what sign?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That's all I heard. I ain't never seen the No,
that's not my deal, that's not mine. That's not my
cup of tea. But what I will say is, I
mean Top League went to the Holland Wolf every freaking
night when we were in New Orleans. And it's like
to go to a place called the Howling Wolf in
a place like New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
You put those two and two together, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
That's That's what I was in my hotel the entire time,
but different there in the in the lobby or in
my room the entire time.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
There's the entire time.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
There's a big difference between a massage parlor and the handhouse,
like they're just there feels like two different things there.
And you know when you're going in go to.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
If you go to a legitimate massage place like a
spa and you're there, they are told, like to me,
super professional. Anytime I've ever gone to like a place
like Equinox, I used to go to Equinox. I was
a member there for quite some time. Yeah, they had massage, massage,
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massage rooms stuff like that. You go in there and
you get to you have conversations with the person. I
could see if a person like got caught up into
the conversation while they're getting rubbed down and and and
they're they're they're hitting those different algor regions, outer regions,
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stuff like that, and while you're talking. It's because massage
masseuses are like barbers. They're like your therapists. Like you
start to open up to them about things that you
got going on, like, oh man, I gotta pay these bills,
da da job stinks this that and the other.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
My mom called me said she needs me to bring
her over this.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
That.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You start talking to them, you like, you start because
they want you to relax, Like they're trying to get
you to relax. And there's a fine line in there
where you gotta understand, Like bro, like this is not
a strip club.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
This is not a what do you call it a
hand what place?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean you could call it a couple of grape.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well that's you know, to me. You got to understand
you can't forget that this is a.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yank whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
One thousand hands dressing, Yeah, a.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Thousand hand dressing. I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
It's a lot of hands, like thousand island. But yeah,
all Lorenna, what are your thoughts on this? I mean,
it's my god, it feels like with sixteen people coming out,
there's gotta be more smoke, Is you know, something more there?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean I I see it.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
But at the same time, I know people in this
day and age and the fact that it was one
of those once someone said it, then they all started
coming up.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
I always feel it's real fishy when they do that. Yeah,
why not just do it in the moment like, hey,
this happened today.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Band be camps like this.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Guy, you know, made me feel uncomfortable? Whatever the heck?
Why does there have to be a thousand hands in
this dressing?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Like?
Speaker 8 (12:00):
I don't know, Like, why does there have to be
so many before someone speaks up. That doesn't make sense
to me.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's a great point. Here's here's another valid point of
the whole situation. If you go into a place and
somebody does start to try and attempt that, you can't
say no, Like you can't say, yeah, I'm not here
for that. What else?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, you're already getting paid for a session. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
If they're going to say I want my money back,
you're going to be like, really, buddy, you do have
options here, you really want your money back.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It all seems just a little fish. You're not being
held against your will. Yeah, I just but I will
say this. I believe that he's going to get another job.
You do, Okay, what's out of doubt?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, he's too talented. He's too talented not to get out.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And this was twenty twelve to twenty sixteen. I think
a team's going to justify it was a long time ago.
The NFL has done their investigation, blah blah blah. I
just know that it's not going to be the Patriots
and it's not going to be the Browns. But that
does leave options like there are there are twenty nine
other teams.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
It's a silly looking dude, though, isn't he?
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Like?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I mean, when you put the stories together and you
look at him, it's like, man, he does look like
a little creeper's wit Mann.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
It's just my silly looking dude. Get your silly looking
ass out of here.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
He was my teammate. Like, what you doing? What bro
silly looking at it?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Damn that's Baltimore man.
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Speaker 2 (13:49):
We mentioned this that, you know, somebody's got an idea
on how to improve a bad football team. Last year,
by definition, the Dallas Cowboys were a bad football team.
They need bodyguard, no stallions there. Brian Schottenheimer's the brand
new head coach there in Dallas, shoddy as people call him,
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and he talked about the strategy. He's got a new idea.
He's gonna move lockers around and move some things around
for this upcoming season. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
But we moved some guys around this year I did,
along with the help of the staff. Again, they don't
really get a saying that, But there's a method to
the madness.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I think. When the guys went into.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
The team team room for the first time, I made
them all stand up. After they sat down, I let
him sit down and I had them stand up, and
I had a move seats. Why it's new year, it's
twenty twenty five. We'll do that in twenty twenty six.
We'll do that in twenty twenty seven and beyond. I
think it's just when you start a new year, do
something different, you know, change something up. So it's something
that's talked about, thought about. But there's a method to
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the madness at times.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Now, the real stunner at all this is that even
after all that their Super Bowl odds didn't change on draft.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
God, yeah, that's gonna do it. That's gonna that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That just sitting at that damn seventy to one to
win it all, that's a.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I do. I've said this before on the show, and
I do truly believe this. I hate change for change's sake. However,
there are times when I feel like change is needed,
and so I don't feel like that phrase even makes
any sense them. These are small things that if you're
trying to work on team chemistry or team building, that's
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probably why you do them. To make sure both sides
of the ball understand what the other side of the
ball is trying to accomplish and developing deeper relationships with
those guys. So it's not just about the offense, defense,
special teams. There's more of a shared love for one
another and your teammate. It's a small thing. In the end,
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then does it add up to be enough to help
this team get over the hump, win some playoff games,
get to a super Bowl, win a super Bowl? Probably not,
but at least they're trying to do something different. I
just I've been a part of teams that did stuff
like this, and I always thought it's it's less efficient
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for a quarterback to not be with the other quarterbacks
or near other offensive players, because oftentimes in the locker room,
when it's before practice, after meetings, it could be before
a walkthrough, it could be after practice, you have the
opportunity to break some stuff, talk about some things, maybe
before the guy goes home, or maybe before the guy
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you know goes out onto the field and you just
installed something, so you can, you know, give them some answers,
or you can talk about how you're seeing it or
how they were they were taught to do it. It
just it makes it harder to do that when you're
sitting you know, amongst different guys. You got to find
the guy's lock. You gotta figure out where it's at,
and then you're talking to one guy, not the entire
position group. So I've never been a fan of it.
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I think this kind of tells you where Dallas Cowboys
are at right like almost like this offseason they made
a change because you know, it's new year to make
a change, right Like, I mean what Mike McCarthy wasn't
good enough for you see, you go with Brian Schottheimer,
who's less experienced, maybe even less prepared for that role.
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I mean literally, the decision of Brian Schottheimer reflected the
decision of Jerry Jones this offseason with this entire thing
in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood, a beautiful day
in his neighborhood.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
Won't you be mine? Won't you be mine? Won't you
be my? Neighbor like, I'm out of here with that,
mister Rogers neighborhood types. There is grown ass men. Man,
grown ass men. You mean you don't get to say
a choice, and of course you don't. Generally speaking, you
get assigned a locker. Like, okay, you come into the locker.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Now, if you got a.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Guy that's a VET and they've been there for a
while and they had the same locker, you're gonna uproot
that man out of his locker.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
So you're telling me I came into the.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Locker room and one of the guys that was near
me was Daryl Green. So you're gonna come in and say, yeah,
for the sake of the shakeup of what we got
going on with our our locker room and with our team,
we're gonna move Daryl Green's locker.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Man, you must be out of your.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Mind, like if you if you want come what the
what if you want to come in and make a statement.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I know, I know I know Brian, I know I
know him and he was a part of Washington when
I was there. His dad was most like literally one
of my favorite coaches of all time. God rest his soul.
Marty was one of my favorite coaches, And a lot
of the friction that he ran into in DC was
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with veterans because he.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Was going to do it his way.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
They called it Marty ball, and the vets didn't like
him at all. They did not care for him, did
not like him. That was the Bruce Smith, pray pray
for why pray for somebod This Matt and that's going
on around here. So but Brian, you used to learn
from the mistakes of the past and not said that
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Marty wasn't a successful coach in the league. But you
know this twenty twenty five, man, you're getting your opportunity
to be a head coach. The one thing you don't
want to do is start off on the wrong foot.
And the worst thing you could do is have your
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veterans looking at you like, bro, I'm not a child.
In fact, I have children. I have five of them,
I have four of them, I have three of them. Like,
you don't have to treat me like a child. This
is the profession. This is the professional level. So if
you're putting in a system of seating charts and all
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that stuff and where people's lockers are, at least have
a conversation with your vets. At least make sure that
you have the support and the understanding of your veterans,
because if you go into it with it, they don't
have a choice.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
You've already set a tone. You've already set a tone.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And you're not coming in with accolades that would say,
you know what, we should trust what he's saying.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
What has Brian.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Schottenheimer done where a veteran would sit there and be like, yep,
we got to do everything that he says. If we
do it, we're going to go to the promised Land.
It's like what I said with Robert Lorri the other
day yesterday maybe where you say, like JJ Reddick talking
about they need to be in championship condition.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
What does he know about championship condition? You know?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Now, Brian Schottenheimer has been a part of successful, successful
coaching staffs, but he's never been a head coach and
he's never won a championship as a head coach. To me,
I think it's the wrong approach. If you're going to
endear yourself to the guys that matter the most, the
core nucleus, the guys on your team, which he already
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has a relationship with some of them, anyway, I still
think that the most wise and prudent way to get
to where you're trying to get to with a group
of adults is to get in cahoots and be on
the same page with them in terms of parts of
what your playing is. You don't how to disclose everything,
but you need to let them know some of the things,
and especially if it's going to be in an authoritative
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way where it's like you're moving your locker or you're
gonna sit here like man. Cats come in there, mixing
their coffee and coco and stuff like that, trying to
wake their asses up. Some of these dudes then been
up all night with their kid, trying to make sure
the kid goes to bed. Some of these dudes is
studying their playbooks.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
D to die this night. And you coming into the meetings.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
It's early, it's afternoon, it's late, you're tired, you're fatigued.
You come, you sit down. It's like, come on, man, Like,
if I've been sitting in this seat for the last three,
four or five years, do not mess with me on
stuff like that. There's bigger there's bigger hills to stand
on and fight on and die on. Don't stand on
that one and don't die on that one. I don't
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even care. If that's to try to set a tone
and mix things up, you're starting off on the wrong
foot if you're asking.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Me, so, let me ask you this, Jonas, Does that
sound like Levar's being over the top about his locker. No, No,
I'm just I'm asking honestly, because your locker is a
little bit of like a sacred place.
Speaker 11 (22:39):
It's gonna start corny, but to that point, it's the
only thing in the facility that feels like it's your property,
right Like it's the only place that feels like your
place to deal with.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Whether it's the stress, the pressure, whether it's just a
moment to like decompress, whether you're going back to check
your phone, saying something to one of your loved ones.
You know, it's it's weird. And until LaVar was literally
just saying this, I never really fully thought of it
this way.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
It's not weird for people that work in an office job.
I've had a cubicle before, Like it's this little enclosure
and it's like, but if somebody were to come in
there and start moving your stuff around, or just you
would come in there one day and all your stuff
would be moving they tell you to go to another place.
It would kind of throw you off a little bit,
like hold up, yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's why when when someone takes something out of your locker,
like it's it's a fight and you know it right.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's the thing. Think about it.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Somebody removed something from your locker, you'd be like, wait,
who took my speed stick? Nasty mother efforts, where's my
where's my deodorant?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I don't know if I'm actually throwing down over a
speed stick, but.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah, it's the only place that you feel like is yours,
and it's the closest thing to a cubicle you have
in the facility. You know, your position, meeting rooms, you've
got a spot or a debt whatever. It doesn't really
feel like that. It's just it's hard to explain because
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it's more of a shared space. Your locker is yours,
like that's your spot, and if it gets moved or
someone take something out of it, like you take offense
to that. You know, you're a lot of times when
you're when you're released or when you leave there, you
you kind of look back up at the locker, like
that's what you're clearing out there, you.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Go and show you clear it out?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Did show if you're blessed enough, you clear it out,
don't nobody, Hey, hey, and I love my like Brad
Berlin and Anders and all of them, like the LA Nation,
our equipment managers when it was time, Like when they
say take you out on your shield, leave on your shield.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
That's cleaning your locker out.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
If you're blessed enough to be in the league long
enough and have established something. If you leave the organization
you're in and you've been there for a while, you
clean your locker out if.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
That place matter to you and what you did matter
to you.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I cleaned my locker out and I had my final
look at my locker. The only I've had two lockers
in my pro career, and I spent five years and one.
I spent five years in one, and when I left Washington,
that was like a moment like that was like the
end of the of the series, like you talk about
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the final chapter or the final page of the story.
I cleaned out my locker so understanding the sentimental value of.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
All the memories.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
They called our area park place, like there was like
different parts of the board around our locker room, like
you had baltic Ave like that was like fifteen twenty
dollars a buy. I was in the area with all
the high rollers because I was a high draft pick.
So it was like Darryl Green and Big Daddy Wilkinson
and marc Ocoleman and Canard Lane and Chris Samuels, Dion Sanders,
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we were all in the same corner. And let me
tell you something, I watch guys come and go. By
the time I was at the end of my career,
I was the old head and I had only been
there for four or five years.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Right, Darryl Green.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Was gone, Big Daddy Wilkinson gone, Marco Coleman gone, all
of them were gone.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
So that that was like my space. That was me
and Chris space. They were all gone.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
We were like the only ones that were the originals
that were left. You know, there's certain things you'd just
that are sacred to us. Don't mess around with that
man like that. That's a battle you don't need to
get into.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
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Speaker 2 (26:46):
We turn it over to our good buddy, Pete Prisco,
senior NFL columnists for cbssports dot Com, CBS Sports HQ
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CBS Pete, good morning, are we feeling hello?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Pete?
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Back from the Met gala last night? It was it
was amazing. I had put the great time. You should
have seen what you should have seen what I wore?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, what would you wear?
Speaker 5 (27:13):
A pee?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
You love dressing up?
Speaker 7 (27:14):
I mean, I don't understand who gives a crap? I mean,
are we serious with this? Oh? My gosh, the Met Gala?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I mean, were you at Lebron's table?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (27:26):
He didn't show up, right he was?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh apparently he was planning on if he wasn't hurt,
and I guess if there was still the playoffs? Is
that how that works?
Speaker 7 (27:36):
I mean, it's unreal. It's unreal. The whole thing is unreal.
I just I mean everybody sits there. Oh my god,
look at that outfit. You wouldn't wear that outfit anywhere
other than the Met Gala, right, I mean, it's all
I mean, I don't I never quite understand that kind
of thing.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
But no educ on what the met Gala is.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
I I have no idea. LeVar, come on, you're into that.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
You to come into that? Got to the met Gala?
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Never lived on the East You lived on the East Coast,
and you were a successful football player. I figured you've
been at the Metcala.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I don't fit the criteria of what, uh you know
what what football players and athletes do.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
So I apologize for that.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Kind of stay out of the way, but I do
know a lot of athletes do go to the met Gala.
I know it's in New York City or whatever, and
they raise money for I don't even know what the
cause is, but I heard it's a good cause.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
It's the Costume Institute Benefit, Okay, is what is what
it is? And it raises money for the museum's Costumes
to Do, which houses a collection of fashion artifacts from
the fifteenth century to the present. Sounds like something Lee
would be into.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
It sounds so like in material.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh God, can't you raise money for a better cause?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
But I mean, exactly funny thing about it.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
The funny thing about it is they think so many
people care about it, and there's an you could go
anywhere in the mid did not find one person who
even knows what the hell it is.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah, but it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I mean, to put on those outfitss for like costumes
and stuff, it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Hey did you see Pamela L Anderson there?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Though?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I mean I heard she was like the talk of
the whole deal because she doesn't her She doesn't even
look like pam anders And like, if you weren't paying attention,
you might have walked right past her and didn't even
know you were seeing Pamela Anderson's whatever.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Yeah, it did. I I saw the picture and I
didn't know who that was.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'll be honest with you. I got to see that.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Yeah, I just you know, she looks like a different person,
but like gone to this whole thing where she goes out,
doesn't wear makeup and stuff too, I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Correct, Yeah, yeah, oh you know what good for her?
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
You know? Yeah, another wrong of that.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, you know, I just heard she was the headline
of the metcallis so I just figured out.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Asked Pete since he was.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I mean, you know, some of it's still the same,
but yeah, I get it.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
No, no, it's not no, it's not no no, no,
that was that was that was handled too.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So Pete, I do have a question for you, your
guy Justin Tucker clearly a football decision for the Baltimore Ravens.
It couldn't have been anything else. It had to be
because he was struggling last year on the field.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Correct.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
No, I mean it's a combination of he was not
worth the aggravation anymore. I look at it. I mean, look,
the guy has sixteen people saying he did it now.
I mean that's something that has to be impacted in
when you make a decision like that, and so I
think that's ultimately why the decision was made. He did. Look,
he wasn't a good kicker last year. Who was average
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as they come. I mean, he's been one of the
greatest kickers in the history of the league, no question
about it. But he started to go bad. And we
know when kickers start to go bad, they usually go
really bad. But you know, combine it with everything else,
I mean, what took him so long? That's the question.
I guess they allowed the new process to play out
to see what happened. But again, it was not strictly
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a football. This isn't care what they say.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Hmm uh.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Pete, I want to ask you just about some of
the aftermath and the stuff that we've heard about Schadeur
getting drafted, and just giving you a chance just to
look at the situation there in Cleveland, how would you
summarize how this is all going to work out, not
only for Shadeur but even just who's gonna be the
starter there in Cleveland?
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Well, I think Flacko would be the starter to start
the season. Uh, but you know, it's amazing though it's
all Shador Shad or Shade or Shador. They did draft
the quarterback before him, in case anybody's wondering, Yeah, you know,
and nobody ever talks about Dylan Gabriel. I mean, he
was picked to Should he have been picked where he
was picked? I don't think so. But he was picked
to head at Shador Sanders, and so it's all about
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Shador Sanders. And it's almost unfair to Dylan Gabriel because
he goes into that camp as the guy who was
picked before him. So, look, it is Shador Sanders a
fifth round pick? Probably not? Is he a fourth third,
fourth round pick? Probably?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
So?
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Does he have a chance to go in and put
everything he did you know, in college, and everything he
did playing the game to the test and show people
he can be a quarterback. Absolutely. So here's your opportunity.
Go take advantage of it. If you don't, then you
went in the right spot. If you do, then the
NFL made an error. But personally, I never thought he
was a first round pick. I didn't. He wasn't in
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my first round mock. He wasn't in who they should
in the first round lock. I thought he'd go before
he went, But I just never saw first round talent there.
The NFL loves traits. We know that when you look
at him, what traits does he have that make you
go wow? There aren't a lot of them, and that's
why he lasted. And some of it's why he lasted
as long as he did had to do with off
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the field stuff, but I think most of it had
to do with the fact that he's not a first
round talent.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Who did you look at coming out of the draft,
and now that you had a little bit more time
to maybe sit on it and kind of let it
all settle down, the dust settled down, who you think
had the best draft?
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Well, I'll tell you what I gave. I graded them
all and I gave out three a's and one was
to Kansas City, who I think had a terrific draft.
I love what they did, and I'm really really bullish
on getting that offensive tackle that they got, Josh Simmons
out of Ohio State. I think he's going to be
the best offensive lineman in his class, and they've had
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problems there for a long time. When he's healthy, he's
going to be a big time starter for him. I
think they added to the receiver room, which was important.
I loved their draft. I love what Tampa Bay did.
I think, you know, Tampa Bay, everybody killed them for
taking the wide receiver in the first round of them
when you look at it, Mike Evans getting up in
the years, Godwin coming off a major injury. I think,
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you know, Buka is one of those guys that everybody,
every scout personnel guy you ever talked to said, he's
the pro pro in that building. He will be terrific
for them. And then they come back and get corners.
They got the notre Dame Kid Marson, who was hurt
last year, big time player. They got the Kansas State
corner is going to be a good nickel for them.
I love what they did. And then Jacksonville had a
great draft. You go get Travis Hunter, I mean, you
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go make that move to go get that guy. And
now you have Brian Thomas on one side and Travis
Hunter and the other. Wow. And so I think those
are the three teams that kind of hit it. I
also like getting tooting for Jacksonville. The running back at
the Virginia Tech, big time player, the Ramsaw kid. They
got the safety. You know, he played corner at in college.
He's a kid too. Lane. You look at him, My gosh,
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he's going to be a big time safety for him too.
So I thought Jacksonville kind of hit their draft as well.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on ex at Prisco CBS. We were talking about
the Brian Schottenheimer decision to move players lockers around in
the locker room, you know, just try and change things up.
Whatever you make of that. You go into this year
and it feels like Dallas has gotten worse than last year,
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and last year they were bad. What is your expectation
of how this year plays for the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
I always thought the moving of the lockers is corny.
I mean, you know, it's just put him by position groups.
That's what I always thought. You know, it's corny. Well,
we're going to now this guy is going to get
to know this guy, and therefore he's going to be
a better teammate. And now, why can't it happen naturally?
I mean, isn't that kind of the way of the world.
When you were in high school, did you get forced
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to sit at a lunch table or did you sit
at a lunch table with people you knew and you liked.
It's okay to you know, it's okay to let it
happen naturally. Instead, we're in a time when everybody wants
to let's move him over here, so he becomes his buddy.
And when he becomes his buddy and they make a
couple of jokes to each other, they're going to go
out on the football field and be better football players.
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I don't get it. Let it happen naturally. I don't understand.
Never have and you guys, and you guys were in
NFL locker rooms. I mean, how did you handle that?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
No, Moss, Yeah, we've talked about it at length. I
just it's the one one thing that's got yours in
the facility, and to have someone just kind of randomly
move it around, and also not being around guys in
your position group, guys on your side of the ball.
It doesn't make any sense to me. It's not the
most efficient way to be able to put together your
locker room.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Would he would you have comments at my lunch table
in high school?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Of course you'd been you. You'd have been the freaking
talk of the town man like it. You would have
been where everything was happening. You know, if a food
if a food fight broke out, Pete Prisco started a
trust man, I can I can guarantee that.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
It would be like broad shoulders the table. Well, you
know what I'm not going.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
You know what we used to do. We used to
like one time I there was it was just like
a janitor walking around. If you left your plate there,
you know, he gets he gets so worked up, he'd
start getting angry and everything. So we just ultimately just
started leaving him to irritate him. And he caught me
once and he goes and they came out and they said,
you're going to clean up the whole cafeteria. Now, and
I go, okay, so I started and because he got
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me and I got mustard on my shirt and I said,
I'm done. And you know what they did. They brought
me to the dean's office and the dean told me
he was going to paddle me with a paddle and
I said, no, you're not. And so I go call
my mom and he called my mom, got rest your soul.
And she said, nobody hits my kid except for me.
And so they put me in. They put me in
three days in detention.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
We're not spoking, spoken like a great mom. Wow, Pete,
I wanted to ask you something in regards to the
tush push, which it feels like there's more momentum to
get it changed. You were at the owner's meetings, did
you get a sense that they were going to punt
on that, you know, back a month or so ago
to then revisit this and come up with a solution
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to get rid of it out of the game.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
These meetings where it's just the owners, it's hard to
look if they have a decision made, it's going to
get it's going to get voted one way or the other,
you know what I mean. There's no debate. There's that's done.
So if the decision whatever happens, if they do vote
on it and they decide to change it, that decision
has been made and that therefore there's no pushback. There's
no gms in there, there's no coaches in there. It's
just and so they vote on it. So whatever, if
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it's made by now, that's a decision that will get
voted on at the next meeting. Since I don't think
it's getting voted out, I'll be honest with you, I don't.
I think they'll take with for a year and see
how it goes, and then go back and try and
revisit it next year. And again, my feeling is, I
hate the play. I think it's boring. I think it's
a rugby play, but it's something that they came up with.
(38:24):
They executed their precision with it, So find some way
to stop it. If you can't, then oh well, I mean, look,
you know me, Brady, I hate plays like that. It's
boring to me. But I think they've they've kind of
figured it out. Until you figure out how to stop it,
they're going to keep doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports
HQ analysts, and again, if you want some of that smoke,
you can get them on X at Crisco, CBS, Pete.
How are the mentions? By the way, is anybody giving
you a hard time lately? Or do you know?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
The draft?
Speaker 7 (38:57):
The draft stuff? The draft stuff. I got some crap
back on some people, but that's okay. I expect that.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
And you've got more crap your Trepasso with your draft grades.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
No what I always get, you know, I do the
first round and I don't do the round after that.
Somehow I get smoke for his grades that go on
and on and on, and I'm like, I don't do those.
I mean, come on, by the way, I do grade
the overall draft.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I did notice the difference and how succinct you can
be with your comments where yours are like a sentence
and Trepasso writes an entire paragraph like trying to explain himself,
and you're just like, like, the pick should be okay,
good player, good value.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Brady didn't you didn't you end him about like a
decade ago when we were on the air. I mean
it brings me Brady abused him one day.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I did not Okay, look, here's the whole story. I
was off camera. He was talking on a one shot.
He tried to compare Mason ruto off to Dak Prescott.
Dak Prescott coming out of college. That was his comp
who mind you ran for over a thousand yards I
think in back to back seasons at a Mississippi State
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and Mason Rudolph, who was very reluctant to run. If ever,
and there was just a star contrast between the two
as prospects, I think you'd still probably make that case
as quarterbacks. Now that being said, I don't think I
ended his career. I just got caught in a moment
where our producer thought it'd be funny because of my
reaction to that was I was flabbergasted. I had no
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idea how he saw any comparison between what is a
dual threat quarterback and a prototypical pocket passer between those
two that that was what got caught. And then Pete
to this day says I ended his career because I
reacted like that on camera.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
By the way, Jonas and LeVar know this. You got Brady.
He got Brady.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Brady definitely all know what Brad is.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I love how your co signed with Pete LeVar.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Yeah, just one time every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
You know, I know what that is. I don't know
what that is.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
You got, Brady, you got you got to get to
holda holl of, hold of, hold hold hold.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
Look you give you that smug look, and he looks
overround you and he says, well, you never You can't
take the bar, but he can say it to you.
You never played the game?
Speaker 5 (41:15):
You were? No, No, what's me too?
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Where I ever said that to you?
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Pete?
Speaker 4 (41:21):
You've never said, I've never said you've never played the game.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Pete.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
You look over and go, Pete, the locker room you were?
You just were in there doing it?
Speaker 4 (41:30):
I sir, okay, okay, LeVar is he? Pete would always say, well,
I've been in the locker rooms before. I said, no, Pete,
the locker room that we know is the locker room
when you're fifteen twenty minutes is done and you guys leave.
I was like, then it starts to become the locker room.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Is that fair enough?
Speaker 7 (41:48):
It's I understand that. I understand it's dimper, and I
get it, But I believe me. I've been in many
a locker room. And I've yelled at many a player
of my day, and I've been threatened by many a
player in my day. And if we had that video
from one and I was covering the Jaguars back in
the nineties, it would be just gold to put up
every single day.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I mean, all I know is.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
If you hear fingers going, you're about to get bradied.
That's all I would saying that. Some people call it bodied,
we call it Brady.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Get Brady, you get Brady, and the changes into like, well,
you know, well LeVar.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I mean, let me let me just say this. Let
me just say this. I've worked with Brady long and anybody.
I think he's an excellent teammate. I don't know what
you guts.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
I do too, I do.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I'm top Brady.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Get out of here, get out talked on.
Speaker 7 (42:36):
That great teammate, But he also has that that those
moments when he gives you that look.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
And let me tell you someone, this is Italian on
Italian crime. I don't I don't appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Come on, they.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Already took Columbus. Stay away from us, pete tang.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Hell no, we won't go take us to the break.
We gotta go, Pete Ah.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
There you goes Operator petet go with us here on
Fox Sports Radio at Crisco CBS. He can't help himself, man,
He's got a star for problems,
This is the best of two pros and a couple
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
The Baltimore Ravens have made a decision, and that decision
is Justin Tucker. It's been nice to know anybody h
and and that is that. That is that for the
time of Justin Tucker as a Baltimore Raven. A long,
(00:34):
legendary career from from Justin Tucker there in Baltimore and
the Ravens released a statement this from Eric Tacosta, their GM.
Sometimes football decisions are incredibly difficult, and this is one
of those instances. Considering our current roster, We've made the
tough decision to release Justin Tucker. He created many significant
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and unforgettable moments in Raven's history. His reliability, focused drive, resilience,
and extraordinary talent made him one of the league's best
kickers for over a decade. We are grateful for Justin's
many contributions while playing for the Ravens. We sincerely wish
him and his family the very best in this next
chapter of their lives. Not not not talked about in
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that little description was the NFL investigation that's still ongoing
because he's been accused of sixteen different massage therapists in
the Baltimore area for the inappropriate actions.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What we mentioned, you just got to read in between
the like you got it like kind of you know,
listen to what he's saying. Yeah, the memorable memory he's done,
you know.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
A couple of things here. Do you guys feel like
when a team makes a decision like this, they're on
the cusp of either punishing him or finding out like
they know more information. There's something that's going to come
out next. He's too good to be for it not
to be that, right, Well, he was too good until
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last had a rough year.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, but weren't you guys the one saying that.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
That's probably why he was struggling because in the back
of his mind, he's like, man, there's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Pressure on me right now. The masseuse is catching up
to me, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
And here's the worst part is, let's say, for example,
this is it feels hard again.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Okay, like that, let's let's go back. Let's go back,
because you have to approach it the same way we
did with DeShawn Watson. Where there's there's smoke, there's got
to be fire there. It's just it's too many. I
mean for starters.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I'll go back to the same thing I said about
the other Shaun Watson situation, why there's so many damn therapists,
Like he's been in Baltimore for how long and he's
got that many therapists. Like that's a problem. Like I
understand if you're trying to find one that you like
and you can kind of work with, because eventually, like
they need to know your body. They didn't know your
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routine and how you know, just kind of fix you
when things are wrong. The problem is now is like
every single massage therapist he ever, or you know, place
he goes to, spa, whatever, is always going to look
at him as you know, what's he gonna do here
we go, whether he's being good or not. But clearly
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there is something going on, like there's there's it's too
many massage therapists to not think that that something had
to have been going on. I wonder if there's like
sixteen others who would come in his defense and then
and then that makes it even look more ridiculous. So
I feel like there's something that's going to drop, whether
it's punishment whether something else comes out, there's gonna be
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something else there that's gonna come out otherwise. I'm not
really sure what this road leads for. Justin Tucker, I mean,
he's a Hall of Fame kicker. He just didn't take
that away last year.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Like if one came out and said, hey, he was
inappropriate to be like, all right, and you found enough evidence,
like no, okay, yeah, that's not great. Multiply that by sixteen,
like what's the defense here? Samely with Deshaun Watson, what's
the defense?
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Listen, that number is outrageous. All right, I'll tell you what.
We'll cut it in half. Let's call it even. We'll
make it thirty thirty accusations.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
All right?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Is everything better now? Like if it was only eight,
if it was four, if it was one, like the
whole thing, like it just it doesn't add up that
that many people at that many different locations would publicly
want to burn a bridge with an athlete unless there
was something to it. Like it just none of it
makes any sense. And I remember talking to Jerry Coleman,
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who covers the Ravens in Baltimore, and I thought the
same thing, like, oh, now we know why he was struggling,
and his thought on it was this was one of
the worst kept secrets in Baltimore. A lot of people
knew about it. And he said, the reason this stuff
started to come out last year is because people were
trying to figure out why he was struggling, and they
threw out the theory, Oh, maybe it's because he needs
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to go back to his old ways. And that's when
that stuff started to fire back up, and all of
a sudden, all these people are like, oh, yeah, me too.
It's multiple times over and just like the Watson stuff,
it's all the same story. Now, the details of the
story probably not suitable for for radio, but we'll just
say he left a parting gift in most of the encounters.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Is there and this is just me trying to see
both sides? Is there the chance?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Is there the chance that there is a trend that
is being created in terms of like this is becoming
popular culture to to actually pile on and have these
types and listen, I'm not saying it because I believe it,
like full disclosure, let me just give my disclamor I'm
(05:53):
not saying I believe it. I'm just saying, is there
the chance because you're starting to see it's just like
and look it is what it is. It's almost like
the me too movement, right you start to see like, oh,
so I can benefit from from this. I get the
benefit of the doubt in this scenario. Let me throw
(06:14):
my hat into the ring. Maybe I'll settle for fifty K.
I mean, I definitely might have been you know, consensual
in the situation whatever took place. But now that I
think about it, maybe I wasn't consensual. Let me, you know,
let me jump in on this. There's more validity to it.
(06:37):
And in most cases, my name isn't going to come out.
And because there are some that may get settled, they
don't want to hear what I gotta say. So I'm
gonna catch it. I'm gonna cash a check too. It
could be a quick come up because people be popping up,
people pop up this whole the ladies that's talking about Shannon.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Right now, where's she come from? Like this?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I think the dude was still playing ball when when
the stuff happened with that lady?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh is there a new one?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
There's a new one.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And she's like all out here, like you know, all
I'm saying, is is there the chance is there a
chance that this could be misunderstandings in the situation.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Is there a chance sixteen of them?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I don't know. But here's what I'll say, is I
understand what you're asking. I think the quickest way of
describing it is or massage therapists in this case sing
an opportunity. And that's really what this comes down to.
I tend to say, no, this is not them singing like.
(07:45):
That's not the issue of what's happening right now. The
issue is there's players, there's guys who feel like it's
it's okay and they're comfortable, you know, going in there
and thinking that it's not just about you know, getting
you know, a massage, like there should need more to that,
and that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I tendn't agree with you. I just thought i'd introduce
it to the conversation. I mean, I agree with but
I'm just saying, we do live in a culture in
a society now, whereas hey man.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I'm not trying, I'm not trying to focus on any
any one group of people, but I'm just saying I
got a lot of heathens from Jersey, and there's certain
guys that I know that. You know, that's how they
if you have a massage, you know, it's just that's
just how it is.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Here's my thing, though, there are like like Bobby orchids,
right there are places where, if that's.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
What you're thinking, they exist.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's the red open sign that's on twenty four hours
a day.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
What's sign you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
It's called open, That's what.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
That's all I'm saying, Like, what sign?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That's all I heard. I ain't never seen the No,
that's not my deal, that's not mine. That's not my
cup of tea. But what I will say is, I
mean Top League went to the Holland Wolf every freaking
night when we were in New Orleans. And it's like
to go to a place called the Howling Wolf in
a place like New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
You put those two and two together, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
That's That's what I was in my hotel the entire time,
but different there in the in the lobby or in
my room the entire time.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
There's the entire time.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
There's a big difference between a massage parlor and the handhouse,
like they're just there feels like two different things there.
And you know when you're going in go to.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
If you go to a legitimate massage place like a
spa and you're there, they are told, like to me,
super professional. Anytime I've ever gone to like a place
like Equinox, I used to go to Equinox. I was
a member there for quite some time. Yeah, they had massage, massage,
(09:50):
massage rooms stuff like that. You go in there and
you get to you have conversations with the person. I
could see if a person like got caught up into
the conversation while they're getting rubbed down and and and
they're they're they're hitting those different algor regions, outer regions,
(10:16):
stuff like that, and while you're talking. It's because massage
masseuses are like barbers. They're like your therapists. Like you
start to open up to them about things that you
got going on, like, oh man, I gotta pay these bills,
da da job stinks this that and the other.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
My mom called me said she needs me to bring
her over this.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
That.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You start talking to them, you like, you start because
they want you to relax, Like they're trying to get
you to relax. And there's a fine line in there
where you gotta understand, Like bro, like this is not
a strip club.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
This is not a what do you call it a
hand what place?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean you could call it a couple of grape.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well that's you know, to me. You got to understand
you can't forget that this is a.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yank whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
One thousand hands dressing, Yeah, a.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Thousand hand dressing. I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
It's a lot of hands, like thousand island. But yeah,
all Lorenna, what are your thoughts on this? I mean,
it's my god, it feels like with sixteen people coming out,
there's gotta be more smoke, Is you know, something more there?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean I I see it.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
But at the same time, I know people in this
day and age and the fact that it was one
of those once someone said it, then they all started
coming up.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
I always feel it's real fishy when they do that. Yeah,
why not just do it in the moment like, hey,
this happened today.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Band be camps like this.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Guy, you know, made me feel uncomfortable? Whatever the heck?
Why does there have to be a thousand hands in
this dressing?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Like?
Speaker 8 (12:00):
I don't know, Like, why does there have to be
so many before someone speaks up. That doesn't make sense
to me.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's a great point. Here's here's another valid point of
the whole situation. If you go into a place and
somebody does start to try and attempt that, you can't
say no, Like you can't say, yeah, I'm not here
for that. What else?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, you're already getting paid for a session. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
If they're going to say I want my money back,
you're going to be like, really, buddy, you do have
options here, you really want your money back.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It all seems just a little fish. You're not being
held against your will. Yeah, I just but I will
say this. I believe that he's going to get another job.
You do, Okay, what's out of doubt?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, he's too talented. He's too talented not to get out.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And this was twenty twelve to twenty sixteen. I think
a team's going to justify it was a long time ago.
The NFL has done their investigation, blah blah blah. I
just know that it's not going to be the Patriots
and it's not going to be the Browns. But that
does leave options like there are there are twenty nine
other teams.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
It's a silly looking dude, though, isn't he?
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Like?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I mean, when you put the stories together and you
look at him, it's like, man, he does look like
a little creeper's wit Mann.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
It's just my silly looking dude. Get your silly looking
ass out of here.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
He was my teammate. Like, what you doing? What bro
silly looking at it?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Damn that's Baltimore man.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
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Speaker 2 (13:49):
We mentioned this that, you know, somebody's got an idea
on how to improve a bad football team. Last year,
by definition, the Dallas Cowboys were a bad football team.
They need bodyguard, no stallions there. Brian Schottenheimer's the brand
new head coach there in Dallas, shoddy as people call him,
(14:10):
and he talked about the strategy. He's got a new idea.
He's gonna move lockers around and move some things around
for this upcoming season. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
But we moved some guys around this year I did,
along with the help of the staff. Again, they don't
really get a saying that, But there's a method to
the madness.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I think. When the guys went into.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
The team team room for the first time, I made
them all stand up. After they sat down, I let
him sit down and I had them stand up, and
I had a move seats. Why it's new year, it's
twenty twenty five. We'll do that in twenty twenty six.
We'll do that in twenty twenty seven and beyond. I
think it's just when you start a new year, do
something different, you know, change something up. So it's something
that's talked about, thought about. But there's a method to
(14:56):
the madness at times.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Now, the real stunner at all this is that even
after all that their Super Bowl odds didn't change on draft.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
God, yeah, that's gonna do it. That's gonna that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That just sitting at that damn seventy to one to
win it all, that's a.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I do. I've said this before on the show, and
I do truly believe this. I hate change for change's sake. However,
there are times when I feel like change is needed,
and so I don't feel like that phrase even makes
any sense them. These are small things that if you're
trying to work on team chemistry or team building, that's
(15:39):
probably why you do them. To make sure both sides
of the ball understand what the other side of the
ball is trying to accomplish and developing deeper relationships with
those guys. So it's not just about the offense, defense,
special teams. There's more of a shared love for one
another and your teammate. It's a small thing. In the end,
(16:00):
then does it add up to be enough to help
this team get over the hump, win some playoff games,
get to a super Bowl, win a super Bowl? Probably not,
but at least they're trying to do something different. I
just I've been a part of teams that did stuff
like this, and I always thought it's it's less efficient
(16:20):
for a quarterback to not be with the other quarterbacks
or near other offensive players, because oftentimes in the locker room,
when it's before practice, after meetings, it could be before
a walkthrough, it could be after practice, you have the
opportunity to break some stuff, talk about some things, maybe
before the guy goes home, or maybe before the guy
(16:42):
you know goes out onto the field and you just
installed something, so you can, you know, give them some answers,
or you can talk about how you're seeing it or
how they were they were taught to do it. It
just it makes it harder to do that when you're
sitting you know, amongst different guys. You got to find
the guy's lock. You gotta figure out where it's at,
and then you're talking to one guy, not the entire
position group. So I've never been a fan of it.
(17:03):
I think this kind of tells you where Dallas Cowboys
are at right like almost like this offseason they made
a change because you know, it's new year to make
a change, right Like, I mean what Mike McCarthy wasn't
good enough for you see, you go with Brian Schottheimer,
who's less experienced, maybe even less prepared for that role.
(17:26):
I mean literally, the decision of Brian Schottheimer reflected the
decision of Jerry Jones this offseason with this entire thing
in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood, a beautiful day
in his neighborhood.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
Won't you be mine? Won't you be mine? Won't you
be my? Neighbor like, I'm out of here with that,
mister Rogers neighborhood types. There is grown ass men. Man,
grown ass men. You mean you don't get to say
a choice, and of course you don't. Generally speaking, you
get assigned a locker. Like, okay, you come into the locker.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Now, if you got a.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Guy that's a VET and they've been there for a
while and they had the same locker, you're gonna uproot
that man out of his locker.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
So you're telling me I came into the.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Locker room and one of the guys that was near
me was Daryl Green. So you're gonna come in and say, yeah,
for the sake of the shakeup of what we got
going on with our our locker room and with our team,
we're gonna move Daryl Green's locker.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Man, you must be out of your.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Mind, like if you if you want come what the
what if you want to come in and make a statement.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I know, I know I know Brian, I know I
know him and he was a part of Washington when
I was there. His dad was most like literally one
of my favorite coaches of all time. God rest his soul.
Marty was one of my favorite coaches, And a lot
of the friction that he ran into in DC was
(19:03):
with veterans because he.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Was going to do it his way.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
They called it Marty ball, and the vets didn't like
him at all. They did not care for him, did
not like him. That was the Bruce Smith, pray pray
for why pray for somebod This Matt and that's going
on around here. So but Brian, you used to learn
from the mistakes of the past and not said that
(19:27):
Marty wasn't a successful coach in the league. But you
know this twenty twenty five, man, you're getting your opportunity
to be a head coach. The one thing you don't
want to do is start off on the wrong foot.
And the worst thing you could do is have your
(19:48):
veterans looking at you like, bro, I'm not a child.
In fact, I have children. I have five of them,
I have four of them, I have three of them. Like,
you don't have to treat me like a child. This
is the profession. This is the professional level. So if
you're putting in a system of seating charts and all
(20:11):
that stuff and where people's lockers are, at least have
a conversation with your vets. At least make sure that
you have the support and the understanding of your veterans,
because if you go into it with it, they don't
have a choice.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
You've already set a tone. You've already set a tone.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And you're not coming in with accolades that would say,
you know what, we should trust what he's saying.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
What has Brian.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Schottenheimer done where a veteran would sit there and be like, yep,
we got to do everything that he says. If we
do it, we're going to go to the promised Land.
It's like what I said with Robert Lorri the other
day yesterday maybe where you say, like JJ Reddick talking
about they need to be in championship condition.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
What does he know about championship condition? You know?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Now, Brian Schottenheimer has been a part of successful, successful
coaching staffs, but he's never been a head coach and
he's never won a championship as a head coach. To me,
I think it's the wrong approach. If you're going to
endear yourself to the guys that matter the most, the
core nucleus, the guys on your team, which he already
(21:18):
has a relationship with some of them, anyway, I still
think that the most wise and prudent way to get
to where you're trying to get to with a group
of adults is to get in cahoots and be on
the same page with them in terms of parts of
what your playing is. You don't how to disclose everything,
but you need to let them know some of the things,
and especially if it's going to be in an authoritative
(21:40):
way where it's like you're moving your locker or you're
gonna sit here like man. Cats come in there, mixing
their coffee and coco and stuff like that, trying to
wake their asses up. Some of these dudes then been
up all night with their kid, trying to make sure
the kid goes to bed. Some of these dudes is
studying their playbooks.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
D to die this night. And you coming into the meetings.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
It's early, it's afternoon, it's late, you're tired, you're fatigued.
You come, you sit down. It's like, come on, man, Like,
if I've been sitting in this seat for the last three,
four or five years, do not mess with me on
stuff like that. There's bigger there's bigger hills to stand
on and fight on and die on. Don't stand on
that one and don't die on that one. I don't
(22:20):
even care. If that's to try to set a tone
and mix things up, you're starting off on the wrong
foot if you're asking.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Me, so, let me ask you this, Jonas, Does that
sound like Levar's being over the top about his locker. No, No,
I'm just I'm asking honestly, because your locker is a
little bit of like a sacred place.
Speaker 11 (22:39):
It's gonna start corny, but to that point, it's the
only thing in the facility that feels like it's your property,
right Like it's the only place that feels like your
place to deal with.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Whether it's the stress, the pressure, whether it's just a
moment to like decompress, whether you're going back to check
your phone, saying something to one of your loved ones.
You know, it's it's weird. And until LaVar was literally
just saying this, I never really fully thought of it
this way.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
It's not weird for people that work in an office job.
I've had a cubicle before, Like it's this little enclosure
and it's like, but if somebody were to come in
there and start moving your stuff around, or just you
would come in there one day and all your stuff
would be moving they tell you to go to another place.
It would kind of throw you off a little bit,
like hold up, yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's why when when someone takes something out of your locker,
like it's it's a fight and you know it right.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's the thing. Think about it.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Somebody removed something from your locker, you'd be like, wait,
who took my speed stick? Nasty mother efforts, where's my
where's my deodorant?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I don't know if I'm actually throwing down over a
speed stick, but.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah, it's the only place that you feel like is yours,
and it's the closest thing to a cubicle you have
in the facility. You know, your position, meeting rooms, you've
got a spot or a debt whatever. It doesn't really
feel like that. It's just it's hard to explain because
(24:10):
it's more of a shared space. Your locker is yours,
like that's your spot, and if it gets moved or
someone take something out of it, like you take offense
to that. You know, you're a lot of times when
you're when you're released or when you leave there, you
you kind of look back up at the locker, like
that's what you're clearing out there, you.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Go and show you clear it out?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Did show if you're blessed enough, you clear it out,
don't nobody, Hey, hey, and I love my like Brad
Berlin and Anders and all of them, like the LA Nation,
our equipment managers when it was time, Like when they
say take you out on your shield, leave on your shield.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
That's cleaning your locker out.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
If you're blessed enough to be in the league long
enough and have established something. If you leave the organization
you're in and you've been there for a while, you
clean your locker out if.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
That place matter to you and what you did matter
to you.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I cleaned my locker out and I had my final
look at my locker. The only I've had two lockers
in my pro career, and I spent five years and one.
I spent five years in one, and when I left Washington,
that was like a moment like that was like the
end of the of the series, like you talk about
(25:23):
the final chapter or the final page of the story.
I cleaned out my locker so understanding the sentimental value of.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
All the memories.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
They called our area park place, like there was like
different parts of the board around our locker room, like
you had baltic Ave like that was like fifteen twenty
dollars a buy. I was in the area with all
the high rollers because I was a high draft pick.
So it was like Darryl Green and Big Daddy Wilkinson
and marc Ocoleman and Canard Lane and Chris Samuels, Dion Sanders,
(25:58):
we were all in the same corner. And let me
tell you something, I watch guys come and go. By
the time I was at the end of my career,
I was the old head and I had only been
there for four or five years.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Right, Darryl Green.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Was gone, Big Daddy Wilkinson gone, Marco Coleman gone, all
of them were gone.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
So that that was like my space. That was me
and Chris space. They were all gone.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
We were like the only ones that were the originals
that were left. You know, there's certain things you'd just
that are sacred to us. Don't mess around with that
man like that. That's a battle you don't need to
get into.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
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Speaker 2 (26:46):
We turn it over to our good buddy, Pete Prisco,
senior NFL columnists for cbssports dot Com, CBS Sports HQ
analyst And if you want that smoke on Twitter, you
can get it or ex if you well at Prisco,
CBS Pete, good morning, are we feeling hello?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Pete?
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Back from the Met gala last night? It was it
was amazing. I had put the great time. You should
have seen what you should have seen what I wore?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, what would you wear?
Speaker 5 (27:13):
A pee?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
You love dressing up?
Speaker 7 (27:14):
I mean, I don't understand who gives a crap? I mean,
are we serious with this? Oh? My gosh, the Met Gala?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I mean, were you at Lebron's table?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (27:26):
He didn't show up, right he was?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh apparently he was planning on if he wasn't hurt,
and I guess if there was still the playoffs? Is
that how that works?
Speaker 7 (27:36):
I mean, it's unreal. It's unreal. The whole thing is unreal.
I just I mean everybody sits there. Oh my god,
look at that outfit. You wouldn't wear that outfit anywhere
other than the Met Gala, right, I mean, it's all
I mean, I don't I never quite understand that kind
of thing.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
But no educ on what the met Gala is.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
I I have no idea. LeVar, come on, you're into that.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
You to come into that? Got to the met Gala?
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Never lived on the East You lived on the East Coast,
and you were a successful football player. I figured you've
been at the Metcala.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I don't fit the criteria of what, uh you know
what what football players and athletes do.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
So I apologize for that.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Kind of stay out of the way, but I do
know a lot of athletes do go to the met Gala.
I know it's in New York City or whatever, and
they raise money for I don't even know what the
cause is, but I heard it's a good cause.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
It's the Costume Institute Benefit, Okay, is what is what
it is? And it raises money for the museum's Costumes
to Do, which houses a collection of fashion artifacts from
the fifteenth century to the present. Sounds like something Lee
would be into.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
It sounds so like in material.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh God, can't you raise money for a better cause?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
But I mean, exactly funny thing about it.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
The funny thing about it is they think so many
people care about it, and there's an you could go
anywhere in the mid did not find one person who
even knows what the hell it is.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah, but it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I mean, to put on those outfitss for like costumes
and stuff, it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Hey did you see Pamela L Anderson there?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Though?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I mean I heard she was like the talk of
the whole deal because she doesn't her She doesn't even
look like pam anders And like, if you weren't paying attention,
you might have walked right past her and didn't even
know you were seeing Pamela Anderson's whatever.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Yeah, it did. I I saw the picture and I
didn't know who that was.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'll be honest with you. I got to see that.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Yeah, I just you know, she looks like a different person,
but like gone to this whole thing where she goes out,
doesn't wear makeup and stuff too, I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Correct, Yeah, yeah, oh you know what good for her?
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
You know? Yeah, another wrong of that.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, you know, I just heard she was the headline
of the metcallis so I just figured out.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Asked Pete since he was.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I mean, you know, some of it's still the same,
but yeah, I get it.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
No, no, it's not no, it's not no no, no,
that was that was that was handled too.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So Pete, I do have a question for you, your
guy Justin Tucker clearly a football decision for the Baltimore Ravens.
It couldn't have been anything else. It had to be
because he was struggling last year on the field.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Correct.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
No, I mean it's a combination of he was not
worth the aggravation anymore. I look at it. I mean, look,
the guy has sixteen people saying he did it now.
I mean that's something that has to be impacted in
when you make a decision like that, and so I
think that's ultimately why the decision was made. He did. Look,
he wasn't a good kicker last year. Who was average
(30:38):
as they come. I mean, he's been one of the
greatest kickers in the history of the league, no question
about it. But he started to go bad. And we
know when kickers start to go bad, they usually go
really bad. But you know, combine it with everything else,
I mean, what took him so long? That's the question.
I guess they allowed the new process to play out
to see what happened. But again, it was not strictly
(30:58):
a football. This isn't care what they say.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Hmm uh.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Pete, I want to ask you just about some of
the aftermath and the stuff that we've heard about Schadeur
getting drafted, and just giving you a chance just to
look at the situation there in Cleveland, how would you
summarize how this is all going to work out, not
only for Shadeur but even just who's gonna be the
starter there in Cleveland?
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Well, I think Flacko would be the starter to start
the season. Uh, but you know, it's amazing though it's
all Shador Shad or Shade or Shador. They did draft
the quarterback before him, in case anybody's wondering, Yeah, you know,
and nobody ever talks about Dylan Gabriel. I mean, he
was picked to Should he have been picked where he
was picked? I don't think so. But he was picked
to head at Shador Sanders, and so it's all about
(31:44):
Shador Sanders. And it's almost unfair to Dylan Gabriel because
he goes into that camp as the guy who was
picked before him. So, look, it is Shador Sanders a
fifth round pick? Probably not? Is he a fourth third,
fourth round pick? Probably?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
So?
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Does he have a chance to go in and put
everything he did you know, in college, and everything he
did playing the game to the test and show people
he can be a quarterback. Absolutely. So here's your opportunity.
Go take advantage of it. If you don't, then you
went in the right spot. If you do, then the
NFL made an error. But personally, I never thought he
was a first round pick. I didn't. He wasn't in
(32:21):
my first round mock. He wasn't in who they should
in the first round lock. I thought he'd go before
he went, But I just never saw first round talent there.
The NFL loves traits. We know that when you look
at him, what traits does he have that make you
go wow? There aren't a lot of them, and that's
why he lasted. And some of it's why he lasted
as long as he did had to do with off
(32:42):
the field stuff, but I think most of it had
to do with the fact that he's not a first
round talent.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Who did you look at coming out of the draft,
and now that you had a little bit more time
to maybe sit on it and kind of let it
all settle down, the dust settled down, who you think
had the best draft?
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Well, I'll tell you what I gave. I graded them
all and I gave out three a's and one was
to Kansas City, who I think had a terrific draft.
I love what they did, and I'm really really bullish
on getting that offensive tackle that they got, Josh Simmons
out of Ohio State. I think he's going to be
the best offensive lineman in his class, and they've had
(33:22):
problems there for a long time. When he's healthy, he's
going to be a big time starter for him. I
think they added to the receiver room, which was important.
I loved their draft. I love what Tampa Bay did.
I think, you know, Tampa Bay, everybody killed them for
taking the wide receiver in the first round of them
when you look at it, Mike Evans getting up in
the years, Godwin coming off a major injury. I think,
(33:42):
you know, Buka is one of those guys that everybody,
every scout personnel guy you ever talked to said, he's
the pro pro in that building. He will be terrific
for them. And then they come back and get corners.
They got the notre Dame Kid Marson, who was hurt
last year, big time player. They got the Kansas State
corner is going to be a good nickel for them.
I love what they did. And then Jacksonville had a
great draft. You go get Travis Hunter, I mean, you
(34:05):
go make that move to go get that guy. And
now you have Brian Thomas on one side and Travis
Hunter and the other. Wow. And so I think those
are the three teams that kind of hit it. I
also like getting tooting for Jacksonville. The running back at
the Virginia Tech, big time player, the Ramsaw kid. They
got the safety. You know, he played corner at in college.
He's a kid too. Lane. You look at him, My gosh,
(34:27):
he's going to be a big time safety for him too.
So I thought Jacksonville kind of hit their draft as well.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on ex at Prisco CBS. We were talking about
the Brian Schottenheimer decision to move players lockers around in
the locker room, you know, just try and change things up.
Whatever you make of that. You go into this year
and it feels like Dallas has gotten worse than last year,
(34:56):
and last year they were bad. What is your expectation
of how this year plays for the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
I always thought the moving of the lockers is corny.
I mean, you know, it's just put him by position groups.
That's what I always thought. You know, it's corny. Well,
we're going to now this guy is going to get
to know this guy, and therefore he's going to be
a better teammate. And now, why can't it happen naturally?
I mean, isn't that kind of the way of the world.
When you were in high school, did you get forced
(35:23):
to sit at a lunch table or did you sit
at a lunch table with people you knew and you liked.
It's okay to you know, it's okay to let it
happen naturally. Instead, we're in a time when everybody wants
to let's move him over here, so he becomes his buddy.
And when he becomes his buddy and they make a
couple of jokes to each other, they're going to go
out on the football field and be better football players.
(35:43):
I don't get it. Let it happen naturally. I don't understand.
Never have and you guys, and you guys were in
NFL locker rooms. I mean, how did you handle that?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
No, Moss, Yeah, we've talked about it at length. I
just it's the one one thing that's got yours in
the facility, and to have someone just kind of randomly
move it around, and also not being around guys in
your position group, guys on your side of the ball.
It doesn't make any sense to me. It's not the
most efficient way to be able to put together your
locker room.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Would he would you have comments at my lunch table
in high school?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Of course you'd been you. You'd have been the freaking
talk of the town man like it. You would have
been where everything was happening. You know, if a food
if a food fight broke out, Pete Prisco started a
trust man, I can I can guarantee that.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
It would be like broad shoulders the table. Well, you
know what I'm not going.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
You know what we used to do. We used to
like one time I there was it was just like
a janitor walking around. If you left your plate there,
you know, he gets he gets so worked up, he'd
start getting angry and everything. So we just ultimately just
started leaving him to irritate him. And he caught me
once and he goes and they came out and they said,
you're going to clean up the whole cafeteria. Now, and
I go, okay, so I started and because he got
(36:54):
me and I got mustard on my shirt and I said,
I'm done. And you know what they did. They brought
me to the dean's office and the dean told me
he was going to paddle me with a paddle and
I said, no, you're not. And so I go call
my mom and he called my mom, got rest your soul.
And she said, nobody hits my kid except for me.
And so they put me in. They put me in
three days in detention.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
We're not spoking, spoken like a great mom. Wow, Pete,
I wanted to ask you something in regards to the
tush push, which it feels like there's more momentum to
get it changed. You were at the owner's meetings, did
you get a sense that they were going to punt
on that, you know, back a month or so ago
to then revisit this and come up with a solution
(37:36):
to get rid of it out of the game.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
These meetings where it's just the owners, it's hard to
look if they have a decision made, it's going to
get it's going to get voted one way or the other,
you know what I mean. There's no debate. There's that's done.
So if the decision whatever happens, if they do vote
on it and they decide to change it, that decision
has been made and that therefore there's no pushback. There's
no gms in there, there's no coaches in there. It's
just and so they vote on it. So whatever, if
(38:02):
it's made by now, that's a decision that will get
voted on at the next meeting. Since I don't think
it's getting voted out, I'll be honest with you, I don't.
I think they'll take with for a year and see
how it goes, and then go back and try and
revisit it next year. And again, my feeling is, I
hate the play. I think it's boring. I think it's
a rugby play, but it's something that they came up with.
(38:24):
They executed their precision with it, So find some way
to stop it. If you can't, then oh well, I mean, look,
you know me, Brady, I hate plays like that. It's
boring to me. But I think they've they've kind of
figured it out. Until you figure out how to stop it,
they're going to keep doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports
HQ analysts, and again, if you want some of that smoke,
you can get them on X at Crisco, CBS, Pete.
How are the mentions? By the way, is anybody giving
you a hard time lately? Or do you know?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
The draft?
Speaker 7 (38:57):
The draft stuff? The draft stuff. I got some crap
back on some people, but that's okay. I expect that.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
And you've got more crap your Trepasso with your draft grades.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
No what I always get, you know, I do the
first round and I don't do the round after that.
Somehow I get smoke for his grades that go on
and on and on, and I'm like, I don't do those.
I mean, come on, by the way, I do grade
the overall draft.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I did notice the difference and how succinct you can
be with your comments where yours are like a sentence
and Trepasso writes an entire paragraph like trying to explain himself,
and you're just like, like, the pick should be okay,
good player, good value.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Brady didn't you didn't you end him about like a
decade ago when we were on the air. I mean
it brings me Brady abused him one day.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I did not Okay, look, here's the whole story. I
was off camera. He was talking on a one shot.
He tried to compare Mason ruto off to Dak Prescott.
Dak Prescott coming out of college. That was his comp
who mind you ran for over a thousand yards I
think in back to back seasons at a Mississippi State
(40:05):
and Mason Rudolph, who was very reluctant to run. If ever,
and there was just a star contrast between the two
as prospects, I think you'd still probably make that case
as quarterbacks. Now that being said, I don't think I
ended his career. I just got caught in a moment
where our producer thought it'd be funny because of my
reaction to that was I was flabbergasted. I had no
(40:29):
idea how he saw any comparison between what is a
dual threat quarterback and a prototypical pocket passer between those
two that that was what got caught. And then Pete
to this day says I ended his career because I
reacted like that on camera.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
By the way, Jonas and LeVar know this. You got Brady.
He got Brady.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Brady definitely all know what Brad is.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I love how your co signed with Pete LeVar.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Yeah, just one time every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
You know, I know what that is. I don't know
what that is.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
You got, Brady, you got you got to get to
holda holl of, hold of, hold hold hold.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
Look you give you that smug look, and he looks
overround you and he says, well, you never You can't
take the bar, but he can say it to you.
You never played the game?
Speaker 5 (41:15):
You were? No, No, what's me too?
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Where I ever said that to you?
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Pete?
Speaker 4 (41:21):
You've never said, I've never said you've never played the game.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Pete.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
You look over and go, Pete, the locker room you were?
You just were in there doing it?
Speaker 4 (41:30):
I sir, okay, okay, LeVar is he? Pete would always say, well,
I've been in the locker rooms before. I said, no, Pete,
the locker room that we know is the locker room
when you're fifteen twenty minutes is done and you guys leave.
I was like, then it starts to become the locker room.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Is that fair enough?
Speaker 7 (41:48):
It's I understand that. I understand it's dimper, and I
get it, But I believe me. I've been in many
a locker room. And I've yelled at many a player
of my day, and I've been threatened by many a
player in my day. And if we had that video
from one and I was covering the Jaguars back in
the nineties, it would be just gold to put up
every single day.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I mean, all I know is.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
If you hear fingers going, you're about to get bradied.
That's all I would saying that. Some people call it bodied,
we call it Brady.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Get Brady, you get Brady, and the changes into like, well,
you know, well LeVar.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I mean, let me let me just say this. Let
me just say this. I've worked with Brady long and anybody.
I think he's an excellent teammate. I don't know what
you guts.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
I do too, I do.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I'm top Brady.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Get out of here, get out talked on.
Speaker 7 (42:36):
That great teammate, But he also has that that those
moments when he gives you that look.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
And let me tell you someone, this is Italian on
Italian crime. I don't I don't appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Come on, they.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Already took Columbus. Stay away from us, pete tang.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Hell no, we won't go take us to the break.
We gotta go, Pete Ah.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
There you goes Operator petet go with us here on
Fox Sports Radio at Crisco CBS. He can't help himself, man,
He's got a star for problems,
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