May 15, 2025 • 39 mins
Derrick Henry gets a well-deserved extension despite his age. The CFB Playoff seeding gets a much needed improvement. Plus, a look ahead to the PGA Championship and The Preakness.
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Man while y'all so quiet here.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Not saying nothing?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
All right?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I mean, what do you want to sing along to it?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
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Speaker 1 (01:02):
You guys get so caught up into given commentary on
my my music.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
You just get so sensitive about it, you know, so
we can't really say anything anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh that's what you That would be ten dollars fine,
ten dollars Jonas Knox. That's a Jonas Knox offense right there.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
You can said what if you want?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I'm saying, we all get sensitive about our songs. We
just kind of plan and move on.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Hey, by the way, speaking of the two pros and
a cup of Joe here Fox Sports Radio, speaking of.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
The choices y'all make on your songs.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
You just playing the pyramid AI discussion we had earlier
that AI.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Giants made them.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Come on, man, that's such a bunch of crap, Like
if you believe, well, if you believe that, then you
believe that there were giant people walking around.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Is that what I said?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, I've heard that conspiracy theory before, and.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's like I just threw it out there. I felt
like I read that somewhere before that giants made them.
But that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It be something more realistic, like UFOs helped build it.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Sure this is something I want to, you know, take
a deep dive down this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So well, I'd rather say.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
That's that's what I'd rather.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I'd rather see how drunkly got yesterday and try to
try to figure out his depiction that, you know, given
that he's probably sobering up, how those pyramids were made.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I've I like the water one.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
I've heard that one before that they kind of flooded
the basin and then built it.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
They could use the water to transport all the blocks
into How exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Are you flooding the basin? Where and where are you
bringing these rocks from? Where you're going to just float
them in? And then now it's a dry area and
you sit the rocks down and.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Well, I think they found that they were down the
nile quite away the stones that they had, so to
get them down there they had to use the nile.
And then back then it could have been at that
valley that it was next to, next to the nile,
could have been flooded by them.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
No, it's all aliens, guy, Yeah, it is all aliens.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Aliens, guys.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
But if you were going to go from an engineering
standpoint of humans doing it, then right, that might be
make most sense.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
That's one way. Like you believe in aliens though, just
because you're from organ, I feel like that's a big
organ thing.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And Sasquatch, Yes, yes, that one.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
They're just like, yep, the aliens did it. That's that's
what we always refer back to.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That's definitely what I don't believe in Sasquatch. Sasquatch such garbage.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
That's that's not that far removed from Sasquatch.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, I've seen them before.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I bet you don't believe in the Lockness monster either. No,
I buy that one more than sasquatch.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean, do you understand how big marine life is, Like,
I mean, there's there's there is a giant squid down
under there's there's probably thousands of lockness monsters under underwater.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You know, shout out to a NeSSI who's listening to
the show on the iHeartRadio app over and all right,
that's I believe.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
This month is the UH the annual go search for
Lockness party out there, and oh.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Gosh, we should go.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
And they released recent UH police records that showed even
more and more eyewitnesses of NeSSI back.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Unfortunately, there was some alcoholic who went underwater with a
snorkel and put a sock on his hand and reached
up out of the water one time. So that kind
of throws a damper on everybody. So it's like, come on, dude,
so highly function and drunk. Yeah, Like a guy gets
in the water, put was it lead to lapse face
under it?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Are you paying sock puppets over in Scotland? Putting your
hand out of the water.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
That's what it was.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
That's a good idea, nothing worse than wet socks.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Huh, But how did.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
For some strange reason, I don't I think you would
be bothered by wet socks or an outfit. I bet
you could get your socks and your outfit wet and
still be able to function normally throughout a regular day.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, yeah, I could do that, no problem.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
See there is By the way, Leah, you mentioned the pyramids.
Did you have a couple of pyramid beers yesterday? A
couple of throat burners?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
No? I took it easy.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
There was no delivery Wednesday because Todd was doing a
special event, but I did deliver him some Zin for
a free drink later in the evening.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And did you partake?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You won't meet out for a happy hour drink Jonas
with with Lorena and Lee?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Oh god, no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I don't know. I just feel like nothing good would happen.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I'll do it if you do it up, well, he'll
let's do it and let's live stream it.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah all together, we're good, all of it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I'm going to I'm going to tell you that, I mean,
I am going to buy enough enough rounds to get
it done. Though, I'll say that, so don't come in
there looking like a vampire and acting like a loser.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You know, they come ready for happy out.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Do you know the places they go to.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
They're awful.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
They're awful.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, well I'll uh do it.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's beneath you. All right, come on, let's get to this.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I'll pick up a shift somewhere so I don't have
to go. But we do have somebody who doesn't need
to pick up any shifts anywhere anytime soon. He can
pay Congratulations to Derrick Henry who gets a nice little bump,
nice little contract extension, a two year, thirty million dollar
extension from the Ravens, twenty five million of it guaranteed
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and based on the year he had last year. I
don't know about you, guys, thirty thirty one years old.
He doesn't appear like he's slowing down anytime soon. It's
a great setup for him. It was a perfect landing
spot for him after he left Tennessee after all those years.
Derrick Henry gets paid, gets rewarded, much like Saquon Barkley
did earlier this offseason.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Good for him, man, I mean, look, this is an
example of what good organizations. Do you know you got
a player who played outstanding exactly what you're hoping for
it even more.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think that's fair safe for Derrick Henry.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
And instead of waiting until the player gets frustrated, we're
setting my text thirty days out after multiple years of playing.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, you know, you just go ahead and get the
deal done.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
So one, if there's an example to be made, you
know the other teams maybe in the division.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, yeah, he's well deserving of it. I mean,
he's a workhorse.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
He he was a difference for them, totally made their
their offense much better and probably benefited Lamar Jackson as
much as Lamar Jackson benefited him and them being able
to have success. So keeping him happy is a great move.
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They're really close and I would say the only other
back that was as impactful to their team would be
sa Kwon Barkley. And you see how they took care
of Sa Kwon Barkley, So why not take care of
Derrick Henry, make sure everything is a go going into
the season and see if they can get a little
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bit further than what they have been doing. And since
Lamar has gotten there, ed Derrick Henry to that point.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
It felt like going into last year that it was
pretty competitive in that division when it came to the guy,
who's it going to be? Could it be Cincinnati, could
be Baltimore or Cleveland. Man, it feels like Baltimore's widening
the gap between everybody else. Like Pittsburgh, They're still trying
to figure out quarterback. Cincinnati's got a disgruntled player on
the defensive side of the ball now, even though they
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paid everybody else on offense, but the defense has always
been a question mark. And then Cleveland is just whatever
the hell's going on with Cleveland like that division and
doesn't seem as close as it did over the past
couple of years. It feels like Baltimore is heading in
the right direction and everybody else is just kind of
treading water. I don't know if you guys feel the
same way, but it feels like Baltimore's kind of distance
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themselves from everybody else there in the AFC North.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
I think that's fair, right, I mean, who would be
the next team you talked about? Cincinnati?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Yeah, and I mean they don't want to sign Trandrickson,
so there you go.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And Pittsburgh, who knows what's happening in the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, I think there's obviously question marks in the AFC North,
but some way, somehow, they will it will end up
being a super competitive division. And again I think they'll
continue to live up to the building of being the
toughest division in all of the NFL. Again, I think
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the North, the NFC North, did a heck of a
job of making an argument for it last year. People
love throwing the AFC West out, you know, in there,
but I don't know that they were competitive enough to
be considered that. But it's intriguing because you look at
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what the AFC North teams have been able to do,
even in maybe states of.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I don't know, confusion of what they have.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Like last year was a weird year for the Steelers,
but somehow, someway they they pulled it together and did
pretty well. You know, it was a slow start for
the Bengals last year, but some way, somehow they pulled
it together and they ended up doing pretty well. I
think the Bengals will be better. I mean, I hate
to say for you, uh Trey that I think they're
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going to be better either way, whether they have him
or whether they don't. I think that Cincinnati is going
to be a better team this year than what they
were before. In fact, I had them as the front runner,
possible to win the division, even against the Baltimore Ravens.
But I think the Ravens are the safe pick. I
think it's safe to say the Ravens will be at
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the top of the AFC North. The Ravens will win
the AFC North. I think that's the safe pick. But
I think it is a two horse race. But there's
always the possibility some way, somehow that the Steelers could
figure out how to be a good team and some way, somehow,
in a weird type of way. You know, Stefanski has
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shown that he can get Cleveland up to snuff in
terms of being competitive as well, so he's not too
far removed from being a competitive, you know, obviously Coach
of the Year award winning coach. So I don't I
don't think that it's a for sure, for sure, clear
cut that it's Baltimore and everybody else. So I think
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it'll be real competitive.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
By the way Derek Henry's going to be, I mean,
if he plays out this two year deal, he's going
to be a top ten all time rushing like by
the time this deal is done and he doesn't appear
like he's slowing down. I wondered if he would have
stayed in Tennessee, you know, whether or not he would
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have been a surefire Hall of Famer, Like, there's no
doubt now and if he continues on the path that
he can that he was putting dead in the season
he was putting together last year with Baltimore, Dude, this
guy could possibly crack the top five. I mean, right now,
he's nineteenth, He's got eleven four hundred and twenty three yards.
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He needs about thirty five hundred to catch Adrian Peterson,
who's fifth. I mean, I think he could get that.
So we're looking at a top five all time rusher
and Derrick Henry based on any Creduh. Right now, he's awesome.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
He's consistent.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
He works his ass off when he's in the offseasons too,
the way he trains to prepare himself. So it's, uh,
we thought it'd be a dangerous combination year one.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It was.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I think it's only going to be more from here
on out. So it's Baltimore's that team, like we even
say it kind of distanced themselves. But hopefully he stays healthy.
Good for him though. He deserves to cash.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
It on on on this sort of dealing, and he.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Deserves to be with a team too, that's gonna be
consistently competing.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Like this is a team that.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
We don't worry about getting the playoffs. We just worry
about how far they can go in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Hey, LeVar, as a defender, if you're standing back there
and you see Lamar Jackson and shotgun and Derek Henry's
next to him, what the hell is going on? Like,
what's the uh what? What's what's the approach there?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Well, you can't cheat. I'll tell you that. You can't
be like this guy can't run. We've got a key
on him.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You can't key you know. Uh, you wanna have your
work cut out for you. I mean that's one hundred
percent because they have weapons everywhere, so everybody's got to
do what they got to do, you know. And I
would say probably the game plan going into that week
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would be, don't let Derrick Henry get his shoulders turned upfield,
keep him running sideways for as long as you can.
That would be that would be what we would probably
say about Derrick Henry, and I guess with Lamar Jackson,
you gotta you gotta play them like it's a punt.
I mean, I played against Mike Vick, So I've been
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in meeting rooms where you're you're having the conversation about
what do you do with these two? Like I played
against Mike Vick and work done and in the same backfield,
and while they're not as physically as opposing, they're almost
like the opposite of what Travit or Derrick Henry and
Lamar Jackson is, which is like you got little fricking
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like quick speed speak Dan Men's on the field right, like,
how are you going to deal with I mean, an
r PO wasn't what it was back then, but you
still had to deal with Wart Dunn and Mike Vick
in the same backfield. So it was just, you know,
I think the conversation would really be kind of you know,
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you you just can't let Derek Hemery get his shoulders
turned and and you got to try to contain try
to contain Lamar Jackson. I think I think if you
can contain Lamar Jackson and force him to be a
pure passer, you have a better chance of winning. If
you allow him to find a rhythm of running and
passing and then and also allowing Derek Henry to get himself,
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you know, get himself into a rhythm. That's just going
to be a long day for any any team, and
for four quarters. That's a lot. That's a lot to
ask of a defense if you allow them to get
into a rhythm.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah, at least by the way Dereck Henry got paid.
I mean, it's not like someone else smissed. You know,
they're they're paid day by by a couple of snaps.
You know, that's that's brutal.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, Sean Ryan, the Packers guard missed out on over
two million dollars by two snaps.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
All right, can you dig deeper into the story?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Though?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
It's actually a crazy story.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Okay, So, the NFL CBA states that a player selected
between the third and the seventh round he was a
third round pick if they participate in a minimum of
thirty five percent of the club's offensive or defensive plays
and any two of his first three regular season years,
or participated in a cumulative average of at least thirty
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five percent of his club's offensive or defensive plays over
the first three regular seasons. He would qualify for a
performance escalator. So basically his agent and his agent said
as much was watching and looking at Pro Football Reference
and the snap count they had listed at Pro Football
Reference was actually two snaps more than what the Packers
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had listed, and so because of that, he fell just
under the thirty five percent and he missed out on
over two million dollars. And so his agent, Cameron Foster,
Sean Ryan's agent, said, we had him at thirty five
percent of snaps exactly. However, the NFL and NFLPA both
had him just under. So for the Packers, they are
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not giving him the escalator. We are pretty disappointed about
it for sure. So basically Pro Football Reference should cut
him a check, is really what the moral of the
story is, misleading information from Pro Football Reference and because
of that, that guy got the shaft on two million
dollars from the Packers. What a pain in the ass.
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Do you think the Packers will well, you know, trying.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I was going to say most owners would go ahead
and give it to him, but maybe not. I mean,
in this case, the Packers are structured different, so I'm
not sure if Mark Murphy or Brian guten Kunz, their
general manager can just come out and flat out say like, hey, dude,
you know it's are bad. We knew you were close
to it. We should have gotten you this or found
a way of helping to get you this.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Here you go.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I mean, it's one where if you're on the floor
too as the coach, you're kind of leaning on those
guys as well, Like this is where you lose a
little bit of that you know, locker room chemistry or
I guess chemistry with your team as a coach is
if you can't allow guys like this who have done
in pretty much everything they thought they were doing, probably
in their mind and wing to find out it came
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to snap short. But I do wonder how that's possible
pro football reference. Did I ever tell you One time
I reached out to them about a stat where I'm like,
I'm not sure how you're calculating this, but it doesn't
seem right, And I kind of got back a snarky
response for them, and I was like, oh, all right,
that's how you want to handle this.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I was like, well, now you're on blast. So apparently
you guys can't count snaps anymore. So there you go
go over and take that. What was their problem? I
can't remember what it was in regards to but I
was looking at it and I was like, ah, this
doesn't seem like the best way of doing this, and
so I just reached out for like an explanation.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
And they gave one, and I was like, all right,
well that's not how I do it.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
But okay, I mean, I know they listed Bucky Brooks
told me they have him listed as a super Bowl
champion on there because he yeah, yeah, but he wasn't.
He's he's so, where's your rings? I didn't get a ring.
He's always with the Packers. They think for like a
game or something like that, but there was no ring.
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He never got anything. He was never you know, they
never reached out to him. He So, yeah, for some reason,
they just had me listed as a super Bowl champion.
It's just not accurate, okay apparently. Yeah, But they're also
the ones that, yeah, it sucks. But they're also the
ones that, uh, that have the nicknames for everybody on there,
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don't they don't.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
They have a bunch of pronunciations, which I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So like Kirk Cousins, Captain Kirk Kirk tober or kirk
o chains.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
They have my birthday incorrect there? Do they? H see this?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Take a look at this Wikipedia also as Bucky Brooks
as a super Bowl champion.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Yeah, he's not. He didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I know.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I'm looking at let's see leave Arrington.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
They're off on my weight.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Six six three too higher or lower?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
They had me higher on here.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, well that's probably your playing weight, right. Were you
never that weight?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I was two fifty No, I've been above two fifty seven,
but my plan.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
So would they have seven pounds over?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Mmm?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Do you feel like you're being fat shamed by them?
That's that why you're putting this up.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I mean maybe they were foreshadowing, you know.
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Speaker 4 (21:03):
Damn nice, well done it is.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I say capitalized my s too, by the way in
my middle and A that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Anyways, go ahead, Johnahan, I'm just sitting here looking.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
At Pro Reference.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Oh yeah, I didn't know, yeah, Levarvarshot Errington.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Okay, what a capital s. I'm gonna have to get
that changed on my birth certificate.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Looks better.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So coming up next here we are going to tell
you good news. We've got good news. The complaints are
about to die in the world of football. You'd hope
we'll explain why next year on FSR.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up a little over fifteen minutes from now. It is
a bit of an anniversary, if you will, for one
of the great moments in the history of one sport
that we covered thoroughly here on this show. So we
will get into that for you again a little over
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fifteen minutes from now. We talked last year about how
people were going to find something to complain about regardless
of the fact that we've got this college football playoff
and we've got all the fun that came along with it.
We got to go to the Orange Bowl, we saw
the National like all that stuff that came along with
the college football Playoff. First time they did it, it
felt like it was a pretty fun event all the
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way through, in fun to watch. Unfortunately, people were bitching
about the seeding and all that stuff. Apparently we're getting
close to a resolution here this. According to CBS Sports,
college Football's playoffs powers brokers are now are nearing a
consensus to change the seeding process, so they are going
to eliminate first round byes for conference champions So teams
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like Arizona State, all apologies to Pete Prisco, who I
think everybody's crazy stage, Yeah, are gonna, you know, weren't
really deserving maybe of that buy. Apparently that's going to
go by the wayside and we're going to get ourselves
a college football playoff without all of that to complain
about from the previous year. So I hope everybody's happy.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
It's an interesting conversation to have because if you're a call,
do you remember how everyone kept measuring the impact of
playing a home game and then building momentum into the
next round, and people started saying, well, it's unfair that,
you know, a team gets a buy and they had this.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Long wall of this long layover in their season.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
And it's odd to me only because we never say
that at any point in time, especially in the NFL playoffs,
like you want to be the number one seed, you
want to have that additional time off to rest, recuperate
and get rejuvenated. You'd rather do that than have to
play an opponent, risk of injury, all those things.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
And so they use an example of well, look at
Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
They had to be Tennessee at homes, like, well, Tennessee
is a damn good football team. You know, they didn't
show out that day. Ohio State jumped on them early.
That was you know, and then the end of the story,
you know, same thing with Oregon. It's not Ohio State's
fault that Oregon didn't show up for the first half
of that game. And look, give credit to Ohio State.
They were the most talented, best team in the country.
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They finally started to play that way and found themselves somehow.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Between their Michigan.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Loss and that first round game, versus Tennessee. But we
make these quick judgments on the structure of the playoff
purely because we're looking at a group of four, a
group of five, you know, team in Boise State hosting
a game, I should say, are getting the buy and
getting the chance to be that seed. We looked at
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Arizona State and in the same manner, and so now
how it's gonna work as the top four seeded teams
will end up getting the buy. So we're going we're
actually basically putting it back towards the committee instead of
allowing the football on the field to dictate who gets
the buys. So I'm not here to say I have
a huge issue with it. I don't think it's right
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based on how you did it last year. I would
have liked to see how things played out. But I
do think the hardest thing with the old format was
as these conferences get bigger, speaking of the Big ten
the SEC in particular, it gets really hard to measure
the strength of schedule.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
And look at them equally.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
And it gets really hard to look at those schedules
in comparison to a Boise State, in comparison to even
an ACC or a Big twelve schedule. So I think
that's where there's a bit of a frustration from the
side of the Big ten and SEC is those conferences
don't feel like these other conferences or teams are playing
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as difficult as schedules, and so when they're not a
conference champ, when they don't get the chance to have
that buy, they feel like it's being held against them
because they play in a tougher conference because they plan
a tougher schedule. So I understand the wanting to try
to make this and get this right, but you're gonna
have outlier years, and I kind of feel like last
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year probably was more of an outlier in regards to
who the four teams that receive.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
The buys were.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
But here we go. I mean, we're.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Basically building a playoff and a format that plays totally.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
In the benefit of the Big ten in the SEC.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
And if that's going to be the case moving forward,
because it sounds like even with expansion to a sixteen
team playoff, the Big ten SEC are going to have
automatic qualifiers and they're probably gonna have double the amount.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Of everyone else. Well, then just make it the Big
ten in the SEC.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Then like there's combine the conferences the AEC Big twelve,
fold them into.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
The other two.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Let's just create this whole separate league with two conferences,
and let's move on that direction. Fine, works because it
feels like we're dragging our feet our feet to get there,
does it not?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yeah, like there's just like little incremental motions to get
to that point. Anyways, I mean, we're we already basically
eliminate the PAC twelve's gone. I mean, apologies, but the
PAC twelve's gone. So if that's the case and we're
just gonna you know, split it and go that direction,
let's go, no problem with it. Best two conferences, let's go.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
That's in essence, what is building here if you look
at how they're formatting this. And here's the other thing
that's it's important for people to understand those two conferences.
They want more teams within the conference because they get
more money from the TV deal with the College Football
Playoff by having more teams in. So the better a
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team does within the College Football Playoff, the more that
conference gets paid.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
So the Big Ten, I would assume, made out.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Better than anyone last year of all the conferences from
you know, the teams that were able to make to
the college football Playoff. You know, now teams specific like
Notre Dame made out the best of anyone because they
made it to the national championship game and they don't
have to really share I don't believe any of that
with anyone. You know, their deal is struck where I
don't believe that to share any piece of that, even
with the ACC who they have a partial affiliation with.
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So all this is going to be voted on. There's
ten conferences evolved as well as Notre Dame. But that's
where this whole thing feels like it's going. It feels
like we're just basically pushing slowly towards a big ten
in SEC and kind of everyone else. And if that's
the case, like can we just rip the band aid off?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
If that's the case, I think it totally strips away
what a national championship would represent. I mean, I find
it strange that you have a team, I mean, just honestly,
just at a first glance, you have a team that
wins the national title and they didn't even play for
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a conference championship. They weren't even in the game, So
you have to perceivably say that they were the third
best team in their own conference. And so to me,
it's the conversation always for me has to go down
the lane of how do you measure and judge these
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other teams. People could make the same discussion point about
Boise against Notre Dame, and Notre Dame clearly was good
enough to make it to that. I mean they got
through us, they made it to the national title game.
If we're just basing it off of Okay, you're not
in the Big Ten or you're not in the SEC,
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they get that loss that they got early on in
the season, now you write them off, like, no, you can't.
There has to be a way to reward the teams
that play. Well, let's be clear, Arizona State almost won
that game against Texas like these teams. Or I watched
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the way Boise played against US. I was there at
the game. It was a competitive game and by the
way they traveled they were there was more Boise State
people at that game than there were Penn State people.
So we're making it if we're if we're making it
about who's going to attend and what's going to draw
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the more money and different things like that, I think
you're doing a disservice to college football, because there is
going to be a team that is deserving of that
the way that they played. And listen, I know that
that goes away from saying, Okay, now they deserve to
be there. They just don't deserve to have a bye week.
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I get all of that. But if they've played well
enough where they've done what they needed to do and
they've won their conference, there's got to be a way
to figure out how they're rewarded and not rewarded as
a qualifier. Like the qualifying the idea of it is
is that, oh, well, you were good enough to win
a week conference, so we're going to put you in
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a playoff, but you're going to have the toughest toughest
road the hoe because you're not playing in a bigger conference.
Like I think that's whack man, I really do. I
think you're putting them in a position. It's almost like,
because you don't play into ten or you don't play
in the SEC, we don't respect you the same way.
We don't respect how you got here. So even though
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you play well, even though you might be undefeated during
the course of the year, we're not going to reward
you with what would come with if a Big ten
team did the same exact thing you did or SEC
so that is the same exact thing you did.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
So what I think is interesting about this, and we
don't have a ton of time, but if you look
at how the NFL does it, and I keep going
back to a professional model because you already have one
in place, And it's odd to me that the college
football level, whether it be the College Football Playoff or
the not that the NCAA is involved with the Power
four conferences don't try to take a page out of
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that book.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
But I think it's it's hard because you're battling.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Against the change that's coming in this landscape or in
this space and the history and the tradition that's always existed.
So for example, we're talking about conference champions and how
we go about, you know, considering teams conference champions There
used to be a day and age where you didn't
have a conference championship game, but you know, TV networks
felt like it makes sense to make money off them,
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so we create these conference championship games, these neutral site games,
in most cases not for the group of five teams
that they can they.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Get to host it. The top seeded team does.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
But the point is is that that's how now we're
determining the conference championship.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
It didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
It used to you played your regular season schedule, you
played against the teams in your conference. You determine a
regular season winner, right. And the reason why I bring
that up is because if you look at the NFL model,
they only decide a division winner. Once the division winners decided,
which gives them obviously an automatic admission into the playoff.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Then you play for your conference, so.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
The playoff process is a part of your conference, right,
or the conference championship is a part of the playoff process,
and then that whittles down, you know, in this case
super Bowl champ But if you apply that to what
they're trying to do, I think with an expanded playoff
to sixteen or even with twelve, I think the big
ten in the SEC are trying to essentially get automatic
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qualifiers almost as or similar to a division winner.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Meaning if we could get like the.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Top four teams from each of our conferences, that would
be the best case scenario four. I think the playoff
for US determining a national champion. Moving forward, the clunkiness
is you have eighteen teams, for example, in the Big Ten,
and unless you're kicking two out, unless you're adding to
and then you've got you know, four divisions that are
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five teams. You got to figure how that's going to work.
You know, throughout the course of a season. There'd be
some more legwork to do, but I think you can
kind of get my point. That's what it feels like
college football is trying to do is trying to utilize
some of these automatic qualifiers almost as division winners like
they have in the NFL, and they advance on into
playoff and you see how things take place from there.
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What gets difficult is, you know, how you go about determining, well,
who plays who and where do they play them after
the first round and everything else. And that's why we
still have a committee because we haven't figured out a
unified way of putting everything under one umbrella and allowing
the schedules to have, you know, more similarities to one another, right,
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same amount of conference games, and you know, same amount
of non conference like big boy non conference games, not
the directional schools, all these things. And that's what makes
it difficult because there's some directional schools that bank on
the million dollars that that big school is paying them
every single year as part of their budget, and so
you take that away from them, maybe they don't exist
after a while. And that's not good for college football's
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good for college kids in sports.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
So it's a very.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Difficult conversation to have, but I think that's the intent
of where all this is going eventually, without the Big
ten and sec O operating behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
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morning in Quail Hollow, some blow hard course in North Carolina.
And stop.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
It is Jeckass.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
It is the anniversary, by the way of one of
the great golf stories in the history of the sport,
which was Scotti Scheffler getting arrested for being a hooligan
last year.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Did you see what he wore? I think it was yesterday.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
He wore orange, which some people might think it so
it's for Texas, but maybe also for the orange jump jumpsuit.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
That was one of my favorite stories in real time
seeing that happen. Yeah, and Jeff Darlington, who's like the
embedded reporter there with the with the footage of that,
by the way, and just.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Because I know Jeff and love Jeff, like the fact
that he he just finds himself to be where he
needs to be, like.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Not like when he was trying, like he.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Had gotten up early, he was going in like everyone
else in to go cover the event, and he just
so happened to be like literally right in front of
all was taking place, right what had happened. I mean,
it's just it's it's incredible to think how how that's
like that's like an element of luck.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
You know.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
It's like you do a lot of things in your
career to get better and improve and try to be
the best you can be at whatever you're doing.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
But there's also an element of like timing and luck.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I was like, oh, I just happened to be in
the right place at the right time, And that has
nothing to do with any of that outside of maybe
just showing up and making.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Sure he did hit snooze in the alarm clock.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I think LaVar even said that was the most entertaining
golf story he'd ever heard. Scotti Scheffler getting arrested last
year before the PGA, don't you don't have to speak
for me. Okay, sorry for Bob.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I'm not really interested in this conversation, so you guys
finish it out, all.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Right, Okay, all right, well we do have.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That was my best impression of Q when he gets
uncomfortable with a topic. I just figured i'd be a
little bit more aggressive. I'm not interested in your conversation
right now, all right.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
I don't think I've ever seated it that way, but
it's usually you guys are making crank jokes and I'm like,
I'm gonna just go ahead and step back out of
this one.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
You are the biggest crank joke joker out of all
three of us, out of all four or five of us.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
First off, no one's going to be Jonas, So.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I don't know, Man, you're pretty good.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
You're pretty good.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
The other od I think that's going on this weekend
that I feel like as an afterthought is the Preakness.
That's all because when the derby winner is not running
the Prignus there's not a shot of the triple Crown.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
I feel like it becomes an afterthought. Is that Is
that a fair way of approaching it?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Because it wipes it out. Yeah, no triple crime.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
I know, I know people in Baltimore don't feel that way.
It's it's a great event. Don't give me roll is
a great event. I'm just it's not the same if
you're the Triple Crown runner or the potential of.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
That, right.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, I mean there's not as much intrigue. I know
that it's still a big one. It's still a big
race to win though on the tour.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
I mean, they could win to the four, they could
roll out a dead body and it wouldn't matter because
I'm going to pick four horses to win the race
and none of them are going to win. I'm tired
of it. It's like playing the inside numbers on Roulette.
Every single time I pick a horse race, I can't win.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You just gotta look at based off of who owns
the horse bro and the trainer
Speaker 3 (39:44):
And the jockey.
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Well, y'all did salad man?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Y'all usually like like like to talk on my my
my intros.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Man while y'all so quiet here.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Not saying nothing?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
All right?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I mean, what do you want to sing along to it?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I mean? Is that there? You know?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You guys get so caught up into given commentary on
my my music.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
You just get so sensitive about it, you know, so
we can't really say anything anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh that's what you That would be ten dollars fine,
ten dollars Jonas Knox. That's a Jonas Knox offense right there.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
You can said what if you want?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I'm saying, we all get sensitive about our songs. We
just kind of plan and move on.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Hey, by the way, speaking of the two pros and
a cup of Joe here Fox Sports Radio, speaking of.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
The choices y'all make on your songs.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
You just playing the pyramid AI discussion we had earlier
that AI.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Giants made them.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Come on, man, that's such a bunch of crap, Like
if you believe, well, if you believe that, then you
believe that there were giant people walking around.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Is that what I said?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, I've heard that conspiracy theory before, and.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's like I just threw it out there. I felt
like I read that somewhere before that giants made them.
But that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It be something more realistic, like UFOs helped build it.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Sure this is something I want to, you know, take
a deep dive down this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So well, I'd rather say.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
That's that's what I'd rather.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I'd rather see how drunkly got yesterday and try to
try to figure out his depiction that, you know, given
that he's probably sobering up, how those pyramids were made.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I've I like the water one.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
I've heard that one before that they kind of flooded
the basin and then built it.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
They could use the water to transport all the blocks
into How exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Are you flooding the basin? Where and where are you
bringing these rocks from? Where you're going to just float
them in? And then now it's a dry area and
you sit the rocks down and.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Well, I think they found that they were down the
nile quite away the stones that they had, so to
get them down there they had to use the nile.
And then back then it could have been at that
valley that it was next to, next to the nile,
could have been flooded by them.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
No, it's all aliens, guy, Yeah, it is all aliens.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Aliens, guys.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
But if you were going to go from an engineering
standpoint of humans doing it, then right, that might be
make most sense.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
That's one way. Like you believe in aliens though, just
because you're from organ, I feel like that's a big
organ thing.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And Sasquatch, Yes, yes, that one.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
They're just like, yep, the aliens did it. That's that's
what we always refer back to.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That's definitely what I don't believe in Sasquatch. Sasquatch such garbage.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
That's that's not that far removed from Sasquatch.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, I've seen them before.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I bet you don't believe in the Lockness monster either. No,
I buy that one more than sasquatch.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean, do you understand how big marine life is, Like,
I mean, there's there's there is a giant squid down
under there's there's probably thousands of lockness monsters under underwater.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You know, shout out to a NeSSI who's listening to
the show on the iHeartRadio app over and all right,
that's I believe.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
This month is the UH the annual go search for
Lockness party out there, and oh.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Gosh, we should go.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
And they released recent UH police records that showed even
more and more eyewitnesses of NeSSI back.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Unfortunately, there was some alcoholic who went underwater with a
snorkel and put a sock on his hand and reached
up out of the water one time. So that kind
of throws a damper on everybody. So it's like, come on, dude,
so highly function and drunk. Yeah, Like a guy gets
in the water, put was it lead to lapse face
under it?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Are you paying sock puppets over in Scotland? Putting your
hand out of the water.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
That's what it was.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
That's a good idea, nothing worse than wet socks.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Huh, But how did.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
For some strange reason, I don't I think you would
be bothered by wet socks or an outfit. I bet
you could get your socks and your outfit wet and
still be able to function normally throughout a regular day.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, yeah, I could do that, no problem.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
See there is By the way, Leah, you mentioned the pyramids.
Did you have a couple of pyramid beers yesterday? A
couple of throat burners?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
No? I took it easy.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
There was no delivery Wednesday because Todd was doing a
special event, but I did deliver him some Zin for
a free drink later in the evening.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And did you partake?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You won't meet out for a happy hour drink Jonas
with with Lorena and Lee?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Oh god, no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I don't know. I just feel like nothing good would happen.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I'll do it if you do it up, well, he'll
let's do it and let's live stream it.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah all together, we're good, all of it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I'm going to I'm going to tell you that, I mean,
I am going to buy enough enough rounds to get
it done. Though, I'll say that, so don't come in
there looking like a vampire and acting like a loser.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You know, they come ready for happy out.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Do you know the places they go to.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
They're awful.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
They're awful.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, well I'll uh do it.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's beneath you. All right, come on, let's get to this.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I'll pick up a shift somewhere so I don't have
to go. But we do have somebody who doesn't need
to pick up any shifts anywhere anytime soon. He can
pay Congratulations to Derrick Henry who gets a nice little bump,
nice little contract extension, a two year, thirty million dollar
extension from the Ravens, twenty five million of it guaranteed
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and based on the year he had last year. I
don't know about you, guys, thirty thirty one years old.
He doesn't appear like he's slowing down anytime soon. It's
a great setup for him. It was a perfect landing
spot for him after he left Tennessee after all those years.
Derrick Henry gets paid, gets rewarded, much like Saquon Barkley
did earlier this offseason.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Good for him, man, I mean, look, this is an
example of what good organizations. Do you know you got
a player who played outstanding exactly what you're hoping for
it even more.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think that's fair safe for Derrick Henry.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
And instead of waiting until the player gets frustrated, we're
setting my text thirty days out after multiple years of playing.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, you know, you just go ahead and get the
deal done.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
So one, if there's an example to be made, you
know the other teams maybe in the division.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, yeah, he's well deserving of it. I mean,
he's a workhorse.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
He he was a difference for them, totally made their
their offense much better and probably benefited Lamar Jackson as
much as Lamar Jackson benefited him and them being able
to have success. So keeping him happy is a great move.
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They're really close and I would say the only other
back that was as impactful to their team would be
sa Kwon Barkley. And you see how they took care
of Sa Kwon Barkley, So why not take care of
Derrick Henry, make sure everything is a go going into
the season and see if they can get a little
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bit further than what they have been doing. And since
Lamar has gotten there, ed Derrick Henry to that point.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
It felt like going into last year that it was
pretty competitive in that division when it came to the guy,
who's it going to be? Could it be Cincinnati, could
be Baltimore or Cleveland. Man, it feels like Baltimore's widening
the gap between everybody else. Like Pittsburgh, They're still trying
to figure out quarterback. Cincinnati's got a disgruntled player on
the defensive side of the ball now, even though they
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paid everybody else on offense, but the defense has always
been a question mark. And then Cleveland is just whatever
the hell's going on with Cleveland like that division and
doesn't seem as close as it did over the past
couple of years. It feels like Baltimore is heading in
the right direction and everybody else is just kind of
treading water. I don't know if you guys feel the
same way, but it feels like Baltimore's kind of distance
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themselves from everybody else there in the AFC North.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
I think that's fair, right, I mean, who would be
the next team you talked about? Cincinnati?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Yeah, and I mean they don't want to sign Trandrickson,
so there you go.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And Pittsburgh, who knows what's happening in the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, I think there's obviously question marks in the AFC North,
but some way, somehow, they will it will end up
being a super competitive division. And again I think they'll
continue to live up to the building of being the
toughest division in all of the NFL. Again, I think
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the North, the NFC North, did a heck of a
job of making an argument for it last year. People
love throwing the AFC West out, you know, in there,
but I don't know that they were competitive enough to
be considered that. But it's intriguing because you look at
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what the AFC North teams have been able to do,
even in maybe states of.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I don't know, confusion of what they have.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Like last year was a weird year for the Steelers,
but somehow, someway they they pulled it together and did
pretty well. You know, it was a slow start for
the Bengals last year, but some way, somehow they pulled
it together and they ended up doing pretty well. I
think the Bengals will be better. I mean, I hate
to say for you, uh Trey that I think they're
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going to be better either way, whether they have him
or whether they don't. I think that Cincinnati is going
to be a better team this year than what they
were before. In fact, I had them as the front runner,
possible to win the division, even against the Baltimore Ravens.
But I think the Ravens are the safe pick. I
think it's safe to say the Ravens will be at
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the top of the AFC North. The Ravens will win
the AFC North. I think that's the safe pick. But
I think it is a two horse race. But there's
always the possibility some way, somehow that the Steelers could
figure out how to be a good team and some way, somehow,
in a weird type of way. You know, Stefanski has
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shown that he can get Cleveland up to snuff in
terms of being competitive as well, so he's not too
far removed from being a competitive, you know, obviously Coach
of the Year award winning coach. So I don't I
don't think that it's a for sure, for sure, clear
cut that it's Baltimore and everybody else. So I think
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it'll be real competitive.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
By the way Derek Henry's going to be, I mean,
if he plays out this two year deal, he's going
to be a top ten all time rushing like by
the time this deal is done and he doesn't appear
like he's slowing down. I wondered if he would have
stayed in Tennessee, you know, whether or not he would
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have been a surefire Hall of Famer, Like, there's no
doubt now and if he continues on the path that
he can that he was putting dead in the season
he was putting together last year with Baltimore, Dude, this
guy could possibly crack the top five. I mean, right now,
he's nineteenth, He's got eleven four hundred and twenty three yards.
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He needs about thirty five hundred to catch Adrian Peterson,
who's fifth. I mean, I think he could get that.
So we're looking at a top five all time rusher
and Derrick Henry based on any Creduh. Right now, he's awesome.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
He's consistent.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
He works his ass off when he's in the offseasons too,
the way he trains to prepare himself. So it's, uh,
we thought it'd be a dangerous combination year one.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It was.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I think it's only going to be more from here
on out. So it's Baltimore's that team, like we even
say it kind of distanced themselves. But hopefully he stays healthy.
Good for him though. He deserves to cash.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
It on on on this sort of dealing, and he.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Deserves to be with a team too, that's gonna be
consistently competing.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Like this is a team that.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
We don't worry about getting the playoffs. We just worry
about how far they can go in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Hey, LeVar, as a defender, if you're standing back there
and you see Lamar Jackson and shotgun and Derek Henry's
next to him, what the hell is going on? Like,
what's the uh what? What's what's the approach there?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Well, you can't cheat. I'll tell you that. You can't
be like this guy can't run. We've got a key
on him.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You can't key you know. Uh, you wanna have your
work cut out for you. I mean that's one hundred
percent because they have weapons everywhere, so everybody's got to
do what they got to do, you know. And I
would say probably the game plan going into that week
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would be, don't let Derrick Henry get his shoulders turned upfield,
keep him running sideways for as long as you can.
That would be that would be what we would probably
say about Derrick Henry, and I guess with Lamar Jackson,
you gotta you gotta play them like it's a punt.
I mean, I played against Mike Vick, So I've been
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in meeting rooms where you're you're having the conversation about
what do you do with these two? Like I played
against Mike Vick and work done and in the same backfield,
and while they're not as physically as opposing, they're almost
like the opposite of what Travit or Derrick Henry and
Lamar Jackson is, which is like you got little fricking
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like quick speed speak Dan Men's on the field right, like,
how are you going to deal with I mean, an
r PO wasn't what it was back then, but you
still had to deal with Wart Dunn and Mike Vick
in the same backfield. So it was just, you know,
I think the conversation would really be kind of you know,
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you you just can't let Derek Hemery get his shoulders
turned and and you got to try to contain try
to contain Lamar Jackson. I think I think if you
can contain Lamar Jackson and force him to be a
pure passer, you have a better chance of winning. If
you allow him to find a rhythm of running and
passing and then and also allowing Derek Henry to get himself,
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you know, get himself into a rhythm. That's just going
to be a long day for any any team, and
for four quarters. That's a lot. That's a lot to
ask of a defense if you allow them to get
into a rhythm.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah, at least by the way Dereck Henry got paid.
I mean, it's not like someone else smissed. You know,
they're they're paid day by by a couple of snaps.
You know, that's that's brutal.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, Sean Ryan, the Packers guard missed out on over
two million dollars by two snaps.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
All right, can you dig deeper into the story?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Though?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
It's actually a crazy story.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Okay, So, the NFL CBA states that a player selected
between the third and the seventh round he was a
third round pick if they participate in a minimum of
thirty five percent of the club's offensive or defensive plays
and any two of his first three regular season years,
or participated in a cumulative average of at least thirty
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five percent of his club's offensive or defensive plays over
the first three regular seasons. He would qualify for a
performance escalator. So basically his agent and his agent said
as much was watching and looking at Pro Football Reference
and the snap count they had listed at Pro Football
Reference was actually two snaps more than what the Packers
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had listed, and so because of that, he fell just
under the thirty five percent and he missed out on
over two million dollars. And so his agent, Cameron Foster,
Sean Ryan's agent, said, we had him at thirty five
percent of snaps exactly. However, the NFL and NFLPA both
had him just under. So for the Packers, they are
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not giving him the escalator. We are pretty disappointed about
it for sure. So basically Pro Football Reference should cut
him a check, is really what the moral of the
story is, misleading information from Pro Football Reference and because
of that, that guy got the shaft on two million
dollars from the Packers. What a pain in the ass.
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Do you think the Packers will well, you know, trying.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I was going to say most owners would go ahead
and give it to him, but maybe not. I mean,
in this case, the Packers are structured different, so I'm
not sure if Mark Murphy or Brian guten Kunz, their
general manager can just come out and flat out say like, hey, dude,
you know it's are bad. We knew you were close
to it. We should have gotten you this or found
a way of helping to get you this.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Here you go.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I mean, it's one where if you're on the floor
too as the coach, you're kind of leaning on those
guys as well, Like this is where you lose a
little bit of that you know, locker room chemistry or
I guess chemistry with your team as a coach is
if you can't allow guys like this who have done
in pretty much everything they thought they were doing, probably
in their mind and wing to find out it came
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to snap short. But I do wonder how that's possible
pro football reference. Did I ever tell you One time
I reached out to them about a stat where I'm like,
I'm not sure how you're calculating this, but it doesn't
seem right, And I kind of got back a snarky
response for them, and I was like, oh, all right,
that's how you want to handle this.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I was like, well, now you're on blast. So apparently
you guys can't count snaps anymore. So there you go
go over and take that. What was their problem? I
can't remember what it was in regards to but I
was looking at it and I was like, ah, this
doesn't seem like the best way of doing this, and
so I just reached out for like an explanation.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
And they gave one, and I was like, all right,
well that's not how I do it.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
But okay, I mean, I know they listed Bucky Brooks
told me they have him listed as a super Bowl
champion on there because he yeah, yeah, but he wasn't.
He's he's so, where's your rings? I didn't get a ring.
He's always with the Packers. They think for like a
game or something like that, but there was no ring.
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He never got anything. He was never you know, they
never reached out to him. He So, yeah, for some reason,
they just had me listed as a super Bowl champion.
It's just not accurate, okay apparently. Yeah, But they're also
the ones that, yeah, it sucks. But they're also the
ones that, uh, that have the nicknames for everybody on there,
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don't they don't.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
They have a bunch of pronunciations, which I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So like Kirk Cousins, Captain Kirk Kirk tober or kirk
o chains.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
They have my birthday incorrect there? Do they? H see this?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Take a look at this Wikipedia also as Bucky Brooks
as a super Bowl champion.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Yeah, he's not. He didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I know.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I'm looking at let's see leave Arrington.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
They're off on my weight.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Six six three too higher or lower?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
They had me higher on here.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, well that's probably your playing weight, right. Were you
never that weight?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I was two fifty No, I've been above two fifty seven,
but my plan.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
So would they have seven pounds over?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Mmm?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Do you feel like you're being fat shamed by them?
That's that why you're putting this up.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I mean maybe they were foreshadowing, you know.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
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Speaker 4 (21:03):
Damn nice, well done it is.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I say capitalized my s too, by the way in
my middle and A that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Anyways, go ahead, Johnahan, I'm just sitting here looking.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
At Pro Reference.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Oh yeah, I didn't know, yeah, Levarvarshot Errington.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Okay, what a capital s. I'm gonna have to get
that changed on my birth certificate.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Looks better.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So coming up next here we are going to tell
you good news. We've got good news. The complaints are
about to die in the world of football. You'd hope
we'll explain why next year on FSR.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up a little over fifteen minutes from now. It is
a bit of an anniversary, if you will, for one
of the great moments in the history of one sport
that we covered thoroughly here on this show. So we
will get into that for you again a little over
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fifteen minutes from now. We talked last year about how
people were going to find something to complain about regardless
of the fact that we've got this college football playoff
and we've got all the fun that came along with it.
We got to go to the Orange Bowl, we saw
the National like all that stuff that came along with
the college football Playoff. First time they did it, it
felt like it was a pretty fun event all the
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way through, in fun to watch. Unfortunately, people were bitching
about the seeding and all that stuff. Apparently we're getting
close to a resolution here this. According to CBS Sports,
college Football's playoffs powers brokers are now are nearing a
consensus to change the seeding process, so they are going
to eliminate first round byes for conference champions So teams
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like Arizona State, all apologies to Pete Prisco, who I
think everybody's crazy stage, Yeah, are gonna, you know, weren't
really deserving maybe of that buy. Apparently that's going to
go by the wayside and we're going to get ourselves
a college football playoff without all of that to complain
about from the previous year. So I hope everybody's happy.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
It's an interesting conversation to have because if you're a call,
do you remember how everyone kept measuring the impact of
playing a home game and then building momentum into the
next round, and people started saying, well, it's unfair that,
you know, a team gets a buy and they had this.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Long wall of this long layover in their season.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
And it's odd to me only because we never say
that at any point in time, especially in the NFL playoffs,
like you want to be the number one seed, you
want to have that additional time off to rest, recuperate
and get rejuvenated. You'd rather do that than have to
play an opponent, risk of injury, all those things.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
And so they use an example of well, look at
Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
They had to be Tennessee at homes, like, well, Tennessee
is a damn good football team. You know, they didn't
show out that day. Ohio State jumped on them early.
That was you know, and then the end of the story,
you know, same thing with Oregon. It's not Ohio State's
fault that Oregon didn't show up for the first half
of that game. And look, give credit to Ohio State.
They were the most talented, best team in the country.
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They finally started to play that way and found themselves somehow.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Between their Michigan.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Loss and that first round game, versus Tennessee. But we
make these quick judgments on the structure of the playoff
purely because we're looking at a group of four, a
group of five, you know, team in Boise State hosting
a game, I should say, are getting the buy and
getting the chance to be that seed. We looked at
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Arizona State and in the same manner, and so now
how it's gonna work as the top four seeded teams
will end up getting the buy. So we're going we're
actually basically putting it back towards the committee instead of
allowing the football on the field to dictate who gets
the buys. So I'm not here to say I have
a huge issue with it. I don't think it's right
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based on how you did it last year. I would
have liked to see how things played out. But I
do think the hardest thing with the old format was
as these conferences get bigger, speaking of the Big ten
the SEC in particular, it gets really hard to measure
the strength of schedule.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
And look at them equally.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
And it gets really hard to look at those schedules
in comparison to a Boise State, in comparison to even
an ACC or a Big twelve schedule. So I think
that's where there's a bit of a frustration from the
side of the Big ten and SEC is those conferences
don't feel like these other conferences or teams are playing
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as difficult as schedules, and so when they're not a
conference champ, when they don't get the chance to have
that buy, they feel like it's being held against them
because they play in a tougher conference because they plan
a tougher schedule. So I understand the wanting to try
to make this and get this right, but you're gonna
have outlier years, and I kind of feel like last
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year probably was more of an outlier in regards to
who the four teams that receive.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
The buys were.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
But here we go. I mean, we're.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Basically building a playoff and a format that plays totally.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
In the benefit of the Big ten in the SEC.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
And if that's going to be the case moving forward,
because it sounds like even with expansion to a sixteen
team playoff, the Big ten SEC are going to have
automatic qualifiers and they're probably gonna have double the amount.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Of everyone else. Well, then just make it the Big
ten in the SEC.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Then like there's combine the conferences the AEC Big twelve,
fold them into.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
The other two.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Let's just create this whole separate league with two conferences,
and let's move on that direction. Fine, works because it
feels like we're dragging our feet our feet to get there,
does it not?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yeah, like there's just like little incremental motions to get
to that point. Anyways, I mean, we're we already basically
eliminate the PAC twelve's gone. I mean, apologies, but the
PAC twelve's gone. So if that's the case and we're
just gonna you know, split it and go that direction,
let's go, no problem with it. Best two conferences, let's go.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
That's in essence, what is building here if you look
at how they're formatting this. And here's the other thing
that's it's important for people to understand those two conferences.
They want more teams within the conference because they get
more money from the TV deal with the College Football
Playoff by having more teams in. So the better a
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team does within the College Football Playoff, the more that
conference gets paid.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
So the Big Ten, I would assume, made out.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Better than anyone last year of all the conferences from
you know, the teams that were able to make to
the college football Playoff. You know, now teams specific like
Notre Dame made out the best of anyone because they
made it to the national championship game and they don't
have to really share I don't believe any of that
with anyone. You know, their deal is struck where I
don't believe that to share any piece of that, even
with the ACC who they have a partial affiliation with.
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So all this is going to be voted on. There's
ten conferences evolved as well as Notre Dame. But that's
where this whole thing feels like it's going. It feels
like we're just basically pushing slowly towards a big ten
in SEC and kind of everyone else. And if that's
the case, like can we just rip the band aid off?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
If that's the case, I think it totally strips away
what a national championship would represent. I mean, I find
it strange that you have a team, I mean, just honestly,
just at a first glance, you have a team that
wins the national title and they didn't even play for
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a conference championship. They weren't even in the game, So
you have to perceivably say that they were the third
best team in their own conference. And so to me,
it's the conversation always for me has to go down
the lane of how do you measure and judge these
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other teams. People could make the same discussion point about
Boise against Notre Dame, and Notre Dame clearly was good
enough to make it to that. I mean they got
through us, they made it to the national title game.
If we're just basing it off of Okay, you're not
in the Big Ten or you're not in the SEC,
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they get that loss that they got early on in
the season, now you write them off, like, no, you can't.
There has to be a way to reward the teams
that play. Well, let's be clear, Arizona State almost won
that game against Texas like these teams. Or I watched
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the way Boise played against US. I was there at
the game. It was a competitive game and by the
way they traveled they were there was more Boise State
people at that game than there were Penn State people.
So we're making it if we're if we're making it
about who's going to attend and what's going to draw
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the more money and different things like that, I think
you're doing a disservice to college football, because there is
going to be a team that is deserving of that
the way that they played. And listen, I know that
that goes away from saying, Okay, now they deserve to
be there. They just don't deserve to have a bye week.
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I get all of that. But if they've played well
enough where they've done what they needed to do and
they've won their conference, there's got to be a way
to figure out how they're rewarded and not rewarded as
a qualifier. Like the qualifying the idea of it is
is that, oh, well, you were good enough to win
a week conference, so we're going to put you in
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a playoff, but you're going to have the toughest toughest
road the hoe because you're not playing in a bigger conference.
Like I think that's whack man, I really do. I
think you're putting them in a position. It's almost like,
because you don't play into ten or you don't play
in the SEC, we don't respect you the same way.
We don't respect how you got here. So even though
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you play well, even though you might be undefeated during
the course of the year, we're not going to reward
you with what would come with if a Big ten
team did the same exact thing you did or SEC
so that is the same exact thing you did.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
So what I think is interesting about this, and we
don't have a ton of time, but if you look
at how the NFL does it, and I keep going
back to a professional model because you already have one
in place, And it's odd to me that the college
football level, whether it be the College Football Playoff or
the not that the NCAA is involved with the Power
four conferences don't try to take a page out of
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that book.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
But I think it's it's hard because you're battling.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Against the change that's coming in this landscape or in
this space and the history and the tradition that's always existed.
So for example, we're talking about conference champions and how
we go about, you know, considering teams conference champions There
used to be a day and age where you didn't
have a conference championship game, but you know, TV networks
felt like it makes sense to make money off them,
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so we create these conference championship games, these neutral site games,
in most cases not for the group of five teams
that they can they.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Get to host it. The top seeded team does.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
But the point is is that that's how now we're
determining the conference championship.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
It didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
It used to you played your regular season schedule, you
played against the teams in your conference. You determine a
regular season winner, right. And the reason why I bring
that up is because if you look at the NFL model,
they only decide a division winner. Once the division winners decided,
which gives them obviously an automatic admission into the playoff.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Then you play for your conference, so.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
The playoff process is a part of your conference, right,
or the conference championship is a part of the playoff process,
and then that whittles down, you know, in this case
super Bowl champ But if you apply that to what
they're trying to do, I think with an expanded playoff
to sixteen or even with twelve, I think the big
ten in the SEC are trying to essentially get automatic
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qualifiers almost as or similar to a division winner.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Meaning if we could get like the.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Top four teams from each of our conferences, that would
be the best case scenario four. I think the playoff
for US determining a national champion. Moving forward, the clunkiness
is you have eighteen teams, for example, in the Big Ten,
and unless you're kicking two out, unless you're adding to
and then you've got you know, four divisions that are
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five teams. You got to figure how that's going to work.
You know, throughout the course of a season. There'd be
some more legwork to do, but I think you can
kind of get my point. That's what it feels like
college football is trying to do is trying to utilize
some of these automatic qualifiers almost as division winners like
they have in the NFL, and they advance on into
playoff and you see how things take place from there.
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What gets difficult is, you know, how you go about determining, well,
who plays who and where do they play them after
the first round and everything else. And that's why we
still have a committee because we haven't figured out a
unified way of putting everything under one umbrella and allowing
the schedules to have, you know, more similarities to one another, right,
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same amount of conference games, and you know, same amount
of non conference like big boy non conference games, not
the directional schools, all these things. And that's what makes
it difficult because there's some directional schools that bank on
the million dollars that that big school is paying them
every single year as part of their budget, and so
you take that away from them, maybe they don't exist
after a while. And that's not good for college football's
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good for college kids in sports.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
So it's a very.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Difficult conversation to have, but I think that's the intent
of where all this is going eventually, without the Big
ten and sec O operating behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you coming up next. Here, though it is an anniversary
for what was a fun event to cover exactly a
year ago today, we'll explain what that is here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 4 (35:37):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up
top of next hour. A little over ten minutes from now,
we are going to continue the discussion some interesting details
from the NFL schedule. Also, apparently somebody can't make an
honest critique of someone's performance without getting punished for it.
(35:59):
We'll get into that for you again a little over
ten minutes from now, before we get into what should
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Radio videos on YouTube. It's a PGA championship starting this
(36:23):
morning in Quail Hollow, some blow hard course in North Carolina.
And stop.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
It is Jeckass.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
It is the anniversary, by the way of one of
the great golf stories in the history of the sport,
which was Scotti Scheffler getting arrested for being a hooligan
last year.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Did you see what he wore? I think it was yesterday.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
He wore orange, which some people might think it so
it's for Texas, but maybe also for the orange jump jumpsuit.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
That was one of my favorite stories in real time
seeing that happen. Yeah, and Jeff Darlington, who's like the
embedded reporter there with the with the footage of that,
by the way, and just.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Because I know Jeff and love Jeff, like the fact
that he he just finds himself to be where he
needs to be, like.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Not like when he was trying, like he.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Had gotten up early, he was going in like everyone
else in to go cover the event, and he just
so happened to be like literally right in front of
all was taking place, right what had happened. I mean,
it's just it's it's incredible to think how how that's
like that's like an element of luck.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
You know.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
It's like you do a lot of things in your
career to get better and improve and try to be
the best you can be at whatever you're doing.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
But there's also an element of like timing and luck.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I was like, oh, I just happened to be in
the right place at the right time, And that has
nothing to do with any of that outside of maybe
just showing up and making.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Sure he did hit snooze in the alarm clock.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I think LaVar even said that was the most entertaining
golf story he'd ever heard. Scotti Scheffler getting arrested last
year before the PGA, don't you don't have to speak
for me. Okay, sorry for Bob.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I'm not really interested in this conversation, so you guys
finish it out, all.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Right, Okay, all right, well we do have.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That was my best impression of Q when he gets
uncomfortable with a topic. I just figured i'd be a
little bit more aggressive. I'm not interested in your conversation
right now, all right.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
I don't think I've ever seated it that way, but
it's usually you guys are making crank jokes and I'm like,
I'm gonna just go ahead and step back out of
this one.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
You are the biggest crank joke joker out of all
three of us, out of all four or five of us.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
First off, no one's going to be Jonas, So.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I don't know, Man, you're pretty good.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
You're pretty good.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
The other od I think that's going on this weekend
that I feel like as an afterthought is the Preakness.
That's all because when the derby winner is not running
the Prignus there's not a shot of the triple Crown.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
I feel like it becomes an afterthought. Is that Is
that a fair way of approaching it?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Because it wipes it out. Yeah, no triple crime.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
I know, I know people in Baltimore don't feel that way.
It's it's a great event. Don't give me roll is
a great event. I'm just it's not the same if
you're the Triple Crown runner or the potential of.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
That, right.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, I mean there's not as much intrigue. I know
that it's still a big one. It's still a big
race to win though on the tour.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
I mean, they could win to the four, they could
roll out a dead body and it wouldn't matter because
I'm going to pick four horses to win the race
and none of them are going to win. I'm tired
of it. It's like playing the inside numbers on Roulette.
Every single time I pick a horse race, I can't win.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You just gotta look at based off of who owns
the horse bro and the trainer
Speaker 3 (39:44):
And the jockey.
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LaVar Arrington
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