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May 15, 2025 42 mins

Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, NFL Schedule Release videos steal the show and the league tells you which teams they care least about. The CFB Playoff seeding gets a much needed improvement. Plus, NFL Insider, Albert Breer gives his biggest takeaways from the schedule including who got the toughest draw and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with lamar As rating Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
The NFL schedule was fully released last night, No More,
No More Leaks. The leaks was gone.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Run of a clause, but didn't have this Colts the
Colts video made it an hour before they had to.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Take it down.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
By the way, what do you think rest of the
Colts the Colts people are assuming that the Colts took
it down because there was, you know, some depictions of Minecraft.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
By the way, I don't even know what Minecraft is.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
That's a lot of Minecraft, a lot of Minecraft going.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Like some movie just came out, So some nerd lego
movie modern day Legos.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
You build and zero sense to me, bro like zero sense.
I had to go to the movie to see it.
I saw the movie. I went to sleep halfway through
the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
That's about right.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
I just didn't understand it. I didn't understand what makes it,
you know, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
The understanding of this particular thing was Tyreek Hill I
think was depicted as a dolphin and they had the
coast guard come up. It looked like the coast guard
was arresting him. So that is the assumb show as
to why.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Hey, god forbid they do a documentary, God forbid, what
do you want to do? Tell lies? Have him winning
a super Bowl?

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Come on, Dolphins have very very high sex drives. Man,
you know, just saying that's.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
True, I didn't know what that what that doesn't do
with anything, but there's a lot to do with everything.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
To who they depicted.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, by the way, I've heard that number has grown exponentially.
Oh yeah, you go, yeah, I've to ten to We
don't even know at this point.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
No, don't stay healthy, keep playing.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
He's in for a big season this year. He's in
for a big season.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
There was always the other one. Patrick Mahomes's dad was
depicted as a frog trying to stop a fight between
his dad and John Rocker was the other one. I mean, yeah,
I mean, come on, what's the problem we can't have?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
What the problem is with these videos? One?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I wonder if the department who creates them actually has
the okay of the owner of like the GM or
whoever else, because with the cold situation.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
It feels like that was like the type of deal
where they go.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Oh, just wait, we're gonna release everyone gets to watch it,
and then they watch it and then there's there's in
there for a second, going what idiot put this together
and thought that they could actually keep this up, Like,
we can't put this out there in front of what people, like,
we're gonna get sued or there's gonna be some sort
of issue here. It kind of feels like that goes
on with some organizations. Maybe that happened with the Colts.

(03:09):
What was interesting to me was watching the difference in Minecraft,
because there's a number of teams that used it.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Did you see the Jets?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't. I might have seen highlights.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Go go and watch the Jets if you can't. I
don't know if like what they said was true or not.
It's felt like they were late to the game and
it sounded like they had something else planned that they
went with something else instead. Wasn't sure if that was
just for the sake of what they were doing. But
I couldn't tell if I liked it or not. It
was one of those ones where it kind of zooms
in and then it zooms in, and then it zooms in.

(03:40):
It keeps like zooming into smaller things in the picture.
I found it entertaining, but at the end of it,
I was like, this is kind of un original, Like
didn we see a team do that last year?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, I'm not really in a good whole themed schedule releases
like just drop it, like here's what we got, here's
who we're playing, Go buy some tickets, come to the games,
like that's it.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
I thought the OS was good.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Alan Irison, Yeah, what's the Why wouldn't he have done
the Eagles? Like is there are some issue going on
there or what?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Like, what's the I mean, I just maybe they didn't
think of it. I don't think it was just like
up for grabs. I think the Buffalo Bills thought of it,
and you know, it was a fun little skit.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
It was good.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Pure coincidence. I'm sure that you know. The the Jets
host the Pittsburgh Steelers Week one, purely coincidence, like like
just has nothing to do with who potentially could be
the quarterback for the for the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Uh are still waiting on I'm waiting for Oh, you
guys aren't banking on Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, I gather.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, I mean no, we're not. I'm sure sure. By
the way, I do like how the NFL, the NFL
made sure, the NFL made sure to put it early
in the year, just just so we're safe. We can
get that match up. When Rogers does sign with the
pitcher of Steelers, we don't have to worry about anything
popping up or an injury or anything like that. We
can get that out of the way.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
And I mean, but was that that decision made prematurely
to you know, the the idea that Aaron Rott not prematurely,
but like just before the idea of Aaron Rodgers going
to the Steelers. I mean, you know what I mean?
I mean, does that make any sense? I mean, you
think they purely made that decision based off.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Of Here's what you're asking.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
You're asking if they're purely making that decision based on
Justin Fields, who was also a former Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback
starting for the Jets, is what you're asking.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Sure, I guess that's a good I guess that's a
good pool, right.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
I guess, because because whether Rogers is there or not,
there is that.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Angle of all this that there is that angle. There
is that angle.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Is that I mean? Is that a good angle?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Is that a big I guess if Justin Fields went
in there as a starter and won against Pittsburgh. That
would be a great angle. It's a post game, great
postgame angle.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I mean, look, it's it's a storyline.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's one where you look at some of the matchups
throughout Week one and they don't all have great storylines.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Some are more.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Based on the matchup. So it's definitely a storyline. It's
definitely something to keep an eye on. But like I said,
I think it's going to be Aaron Rodgers versus Justin
Fields when it's all said and done. I also think
we're under estimating that if you look at how last
year went with the Jets and Rogers, who was largely
around the team in the offseason, with the exception of

(06:24):
one period of time which happened to be the mandatory
mini camp, which became that you know, whole topic of
discussion during the course of the summer. He gets to
avoid all of that, maybe he doesn't sign with the
team during this period of time. So there is that
thought to all this that you know, Rogers at this
point in his career, you know, would help for him

(06:47):
to be with the team, especially a new team. Guys
is throwing to everything else. Sure, but you know he
also maybe not a plan on being there anyway. So
if that's the case, then it's maybe better just not
need to be signed. Do not have to worry about
being fine, I have to worry about putting the team
in that position.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
I do wonder if they.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Talked about that or have talked about that, considering how
Brett Farv used to do things, you know, back during
the end of his career and how he was handling stuff,
but also how last year went and the trip to
Egypt that seemed to rub a lot of people the wrong.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Way because the timing of all of it, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
So now if he wants to go smoke weed on
the back of a camel, he doesn't have any obligation
to any TMV hasn't signed yet, makes sense.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
I mean, here's here's.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
The only thing I'll say about that trip is, did
you see all that stuff that came out about the Pyramids?
It was like the whole city and stuff, but everything
else that came out. Maybe he got a sneak peak
of all that stuff before everyone else.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh, they still they still haven't figured out how those
things got built.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Stories.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
You know, guys got theory. So what is the AI theory?
Because I've looked at up. I've heard there's like water,
Like there's there's water. They used water to transport some
of the blocks in like that. Some of the uh
I've heard, you know, alien involvement. I've heard an extraterrestrial involvement,

(08:11):
Like there's been a slating that in there. I mean
just saying there's there's a lot a lot of speculation
about how those things were even built, because they're still standing.
They still seem to be, uh functioning properly, and they
were built a long ass time ago before any technican.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Go look into the most recent discovery like what they.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Found you, I mean, he told you to go look
on Hey, speaking of.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
The Jets, did you see there?

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Did you guys see their schedule release video that they
posted on social It's pretty creative.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, that's what I was just talking about earlier.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Okay, I thought you were talking about the one they
kept zooming in. Yeah, they kept zooming Yeah, so the Jets,
like you kept zooming in, zooming in. They talked about
how they were going to do something else and then
they ended up dropping that right.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, it's funny, it's pretty cool. It's a pretty cool video.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Look, I kept zooming in on on the Jets schedule,
and I saw eleven l's for some reason, I.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Don't know you zooming.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
You didn't have to zoom in because the video did
the zooming for you. That is a funny little bit,
just funny little.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Just like you take your fingers put them together.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
I know we're up against a little bit. Can we
get these some games? Show music though? Real fast?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
All right?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh yep, it's that time for guess which teams don't
have a game in primetime?

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Jonas Knox, you'll be first up.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Which NFL team has zero games in primetime this season?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, based on the fact that even their starting quarterback
doesn't want to be there anymore and he just upped
and retired less than a week ago, I'm gonna go
the New Orleans Saints as being one of them.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Correct, the New Orleans Saints have his zero games in primetime,
LaVar Arrington, you were up next.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
There are two more teams. Can you name one of
the next two that has no like?

Speaker 5 (10:02):
You gotta go with the Panthers, right, I mean they're.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
That is wrong, Yeah, that is wrong, Carolina Panthers actually
do have a game in prime.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Jonahs knocks back to you. You have a chance to
steal here got them.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Let me let me think of what would be a
got A team that should have very little expectations based
on what they go with.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Carolina Panthers isn't one of those.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I would go with the Cleveland Browns. I'm gonna say the.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
That's correct, the Cleveland brown You're looking for the second
of three teams that have zero games in prime time, LeVar,
last chance?

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Looking?

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Can you name the third team that has no games
in prime time?

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (10:54):
I mean the Titans. They get the number one overall pick.
I mean they so they stunk. They might still stink.
This about the Titans.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
That is correct, Titans have zero games. I mean, even
though I'm not I should.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Be, but the Titans one. I totally disagree with the
NFL not put them in primetime. He's a number one pick, Like,
why would you not feature them? They've got Indianapolis getting
a primetime game. Who gives a crap about Indianapolis other
than their their schedule release video.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Until Levar's point, I'd rather.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
See the Tennessee Titans and the number one overall pick.
With what you said as opposed to the Carolina Panthers.
Like the Panthers seem like one of those teams with
the least amount of buzz around them. It was a
bit surprising. Hell, I'll even throw the Browns in there,
like the fact that the Browns don't have a primetime game.
I don't care what people say about the quarterback situation.

(11:48):
They still have a decent roster around them. There's still
stars like Miles Garrett, There's still going to be some
good AFC North like matchups and battles.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
I just I don't think they're.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Gonna be that that bad of a team this year.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Like, I think they'll be competitive.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
So it's a bit surprising dating to throw them a
bone get them an early primetime But is.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
What it is, man. That's that's what. By the way,
that's what the NFL.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Don't blame us, all right, that is what the NFL
thinks of you, Cleveland, Tennessee, and New Orleans. They make
the schedule, they think you're going to stink. It's not
on us. We're just poining it out to you, just
so you know, the NFL thinks those three teams are
gonna stink this year.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Meanwhile, Dallas gets six games in primetime it just can't
help themselves whatever whirl them in. You know, the only
Kansas City's got more primetime games than the Cowboys this year.
All right, makes sense they've got more than Philly, but okay.

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Speaker 2 (12:57):
We talked last year about how, you know, people were
going to find something to complain about regardless of the
fact that we've got this college football Playoff and we've
got you know, all the fun that came along with it.
We got to go to the Orange Bowl, we saw
the National like all that stuff that came along with
the college football Playoff. First time they did it, it
felt like it was a pretty fun event all the
way through, in fun to watch. Unfortunately, people were bitching

(13:19):
about the seeding and all that stuff. Apparently we're getting
close to a resolution here this. According to CBS Sports,
college Football's playoffs powers brokers are now are nearing a
consensus to change the seeding process, so they are going
to eliminate first round byes for conference champions. So teams

(13:39):
like Arizona State, all apologies to Pete Prisco, who I
think everybody was, Yeah, are you know, weren't really deserving
maybe of that buy. Apparently that's going to go by
the wayside and we're going to get ourselves a college
football playoff without all of that to complain about from
the previous year.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
So everybody's happy.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
It's an interesting conversation to have because if you're a call,
do you remember how everyone kept measuring the impact of
playing a home game and then building momentum into the
next round And people started saying, well, it's unfair that,
you know, a team gets a buy and they had
this this long wall of this long layover in their season.

(14:24):
And it's odd to me only because we never say
that at any point in time, especially in the NFL playoffs,
Like you want to be the number one seed, you
want to have that additional time off to rest, recuperate
and get rejuvenated. You'd rather do that than have to
play an opponent, risk of injury, all those things. And
so they use an example, Well, look at Ohio State.
They had to beat Tennessee at homes like well, Tennessee

(14:45):
is a damn good football team. You know, they didn't
show out that day. Ohio State jumped on them early.
That was you know, and then the end of the story,
you know, same thing with Oregon. It's not Ohio State's
fault that Oregon didn't show up for the first half
of that game. And look, give credit to Ohio State.
They were the most talented, best team in the country.
They finally started to play that way and found themselves

(15:07):
somehow between their Michigan loss and that first round game
versus Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
But we make these quick judgments.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
On the structure of the playoff purely because we're looking
at a group of four, a group of five, you know,
team in Boise State hosting a game I should say,
are getting the buy and getting the chance to be
that seed. We looked at Arizona State and in the
same manner, and so now how it's gonna work as
the top four seeded teams end up getting the buy.

(15:36):
So we're going we're actually basically putting it back towards
the committee instead of allowing football on the field to
dictate who gets the buys. So I'm not here to
say I have a huge issue with it. I don't
think it's right based on how you did it last year.
I would have liked to see how things played out.

(15:57):
But I do think the hardest thing with the old
format was as these conferences get bigger, speaking of the
Big Ten, the SEC in particular, it gets really hard
to measure the strength of schedule.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
And look at them equally.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
And it gets really hard to look at the you know,
those schedules in comparison to a Boise State, in comparison
to even an ACC or a.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Big twelve schedule.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
So I think that's where there's a bit of a
frustration from the side of the Big Ten and SEC
is those conferences don't feel like these other conferences or
teams are playing as difficult as schedules, and so when
they're not a conference champ, when they don't get the
chance to have that buy, they feel like it's being
held against them because they plan a tougher conference, because

(16:47):
they plan a tougher schedule. So I understand, you know,
the wanting to try to make this and get this right,
but you're gonna have outlier years, and I kind of
feel like last year probably was more of an outlier
in regards to who the four teams that receive the
buys were.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
But here we go. I mean, we're.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Basically building a playoff in a format that plays totally in.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
The benefit of the Big ten in the SEC.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
And if that's going to be the case moving forward,
because it sounds like even with expansion to a sixteen
team playoff, the Big ten SEC are going to have
automatic qualifiers and they're probably gonna have double the amount
of everyone else.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Well, then just make it the Big ten in the SEC.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Then, like, there's combine the conferences, the A SEC Big twelve,
fold them into the other two. Let's just create this
whole separate league with two conferences, and let's move on
that direction. Fine, works way, because it feels like we're
dragging our feet our feet to get there, does it not. Yeah,
like there's just like little incremental motions to get to
that point.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Anyways, I mean, we're we.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Already basically eliminate the PAC twelve's gone. I mean, apologies,
but the PAC twelve's gone. So if that's the case
and we're just gonna you know, split it and go
that direction, let's go, no problem with it.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Best two conferences versus Big ten let's go.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
That's in essence what is building here if you look
at how they're formatting this. And here's the other thing
that's it's important for people to understand those two conferences.
They want more teams within the conference because they get
more money from the TV deal with the College Football
Playoff by having more teams in. So the better a

(18:24):
team does within the College Football Playoff, the more that
conference gets paid. So the Big Ten, I would assume,
made out better than anyone last year of all the
conferences from you know, the teams that.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Were able to make to the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
You know now teams specific Notre Dame made out the
best of anyone because they made it to the National
Championship Game. And they don't have to really share I
don't believe any of that with anyone. You know, their
deal is struck where I don't believe that to share
any piece of that, even with the ACC who they
have a partial affiliation with. So all this is going
to be voted on. There's ten conferences evolved as well

(19:00):
as Notre Dame. But that's where this whole thing feels
like it's going. It feels like we're just basically pushing
slowly towards a Big Ten and SEC and kind of
everyone else. And if that's the case, like can we
just rip the band aid off?

Speaker 5 (19:14):
If that's the case, I think it totally strips away
what a national championship would represent. I mean, I find
it strange that you have a team, I mean, just honestly,
just at a first glance, you have a team that
wins the national title and they didn't even play for

(19:36):
a conference championship. They weren't even in the game, So
you have to perceivably say that they were the third
best team in their own conference. And so to me,
it's the conversation always for me, has to go down
the lane of how do you measure and judge these

(19:58):
other teams. People can make the same discussion point about
Boise against Notre Dame, and and Notre Dame clearly was
good enough to make it to I mean, they got
through us, they made it to the national title game.
If we're just basing it off of Okay, you're not
in the Big Ten or you're not in the SEC.

(20:20):
They get that loss that they got early on in
the season, Now you write them off, like, no, you can't.
There has to be a way to reward the teams
that play well. Let's be clear, Arizona State almost won
that game against Texas.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Like these teams were.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
I watched the way Boise played against US. I was
there at the game. It was a competitive game, and
by the way they traveled they were there was more
Boise State people at that game than there were Penn
State people. So we're making it. If we're making it
about who's going to attend and what's going to draw

(21:05):
the more money and different things like that, I think
you're doing a disservice to college football because there is
going to be a team that is deserving of that
the way that they played. And listen, I know that
that goes away from saying, Okay, now they deserve to
be there. They just don't deserve to have a bye week.

(21:25):
I get all of that. But if they've played well
enough where they've done what they needed to do and
they've won their conference, there's got to be a way
to figure out how they're rewarded and not rewarded as
a qualifier.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Like the qualifying.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Idea of it is is that, oh, well, you were
good enough to win a week conference, so we're going
to put you in the playoff, but you're going to
have the toughest toughest road the hole because you're not
playing in a bigger conference. Like I think that's whack man,
I really do. I think you're putting them in a
position it's almost liked you don't play into ten or

(22:01):
you don't play in the SEC. We don't respect you
the same way. We don't respect how you got here.
So even though you play well, even though you might
be undefeated during the course of the year, we're not
going to reward you with what would come with if
a Big ten team did the same exact thing you
did or SEC so that the same exact thing you did.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
So what I think is interesting about this, and we
don't have a ton of time, but if you look
at how the NFL does it, and I keep going
back to a professional model because you already have one
in place, and it's odd to me that the college
football level, whether it be the College Football Playoff or
the not, that the NCAA has evolved with the power
for conferences don't try to take a page out of

(22:43):
that book.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
But I think it's it's hard because you're battling.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Against the change that's coming in this landscape or in
this space and the history and the tradition that's always existed. So,
for example, we're talking about conference champions and how we
go about, you know, considering teams conference champions There used
to be a day and age where you didn't have
a conference championship game. But you know, TV networks felt
like it'd makes sense to make money off them, so

(23:08):
we create these conference championship games, these neutral site games.
In most cases not for the group of five teams
that they can they get to host it. The top
seeded team does. But the point is is that that's
how now we're determining the conference chamionship.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
It didn't used to be that way. It us.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
You played your regular season schedule, you played against the
teams in your conference. You determine a regular season winner, right.
And the reason why I bring that up is because
if you look at the NFL model, they only decide
a division winner. Once the division winners decided, which gives
them obviously an automatic admission into the playoff.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Then you play for your conference.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
So the playoff process is a part of your conference, right,
or the conference championship is a part of the playoff process,
and then that whittles down your you know, in this case,
super Bowl champ But if you apply that to what
they're trying to do, I think think with an expanded
playoff to sixteen or even with twelve, I think the
Big Ten in the SEC are trying to essentially get

(24:07):
automatic qualifiers almost as or similar to a division winner,
Meaning if we could get like the top four teams
from each of our conferences, that would be the best
case scenario four. I think the playoff for US determine
a national champion moving forward. The clunkinesses you have eighteen teams,

(24:29):
for example, the Big Ten unless you're kicking two out,
unless you're adding to and then you've got, you know,
four divisions that are five teams. You got to figure
how that's going to work, you know, throughout the course
of a season. There'd be some more legwork to do,
but I think you can kind of get my point.
That's what it feels like college football is trying to
do is trying to utilize some of these automatic qualifiers

(24:52):
almost as division winners like they have in the NFL,
and they advance on into the playoff and you see
how things take place from there. What gets difficult is
you know, how you go about determining.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Well, who plays who and where do they play.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Them after the first round and everything else. And that's
why we still have a committee because we haven't figured
out a unified way of putting everything under one umbrella
and allowing the schedules to have, you know, more similarities
to one another, right, same amount of conference games, and
you know, same amount of non conference like big boy
non conference games, not the directional schools all these things.

(25:26):
And that's what makes it difficult because there's some directional
schools that bank on the million dollars that that big
school's paying them every single year as part of their budget,
and so you take that away from them, maybe they
don't exist after a while, and that's not good for
college football. That's not good for college kids in sports.
So it's a very difficult conversation to have. But I
think that's the intent of where all this is going eventually,

(25:49):
with how the Big ten and SEC are operating behind
the scenes.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
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Speaker 2 (26:02):
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He is senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist for the
m m QB Amazon on Prime NFL Insider. Get him
on X at Albert Breer AB. Good morning, Happy Thursday.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
How you doing.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Good morning guys, How are we doing good?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
So anything stand out to you other than Mike North
of the NFL the NFL VP who No, definitely, who's that?
Look it up? You do not look that up? But

(26:45):
Mike North.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
Mike North saying that a flying start.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Mike North saying that, you know, listen, if we knew
Aaron Rodgers was going to be on the Steelers, we
would have put it in a primetime game based on
the other matchups in that window. It does feel like
maybe they might have had some sort of a hunch
that that's going to happen. As he goes to the
Jets to play his former team to open up the air.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
Yeah, and I talked to another one of those scheduling
guys there, Annie Bows, who you know more or less,
said to me, you know, the Steelers are a big brand,
so it sort of protected them in a way where
I mean, it wasn't like I mean, with all due respect,
it's not like you know, Aaron Rodgers going to the Jaguars,
where it's like, okay, like you know, we have to

(27:29):
make a real decision here. The Steelers are a draw
no matter what, and so they could put them in
enough windows where they know, you know, he'll get a
lot of exposure if he does if he isn't the team,
and because it's the Steelers, they'll be okay even.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
If he isn't.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
Now I mean, like Annie did cancede to me that
they would have handled this a little bit differently if
they knew Aaron was on the team. And so there's
that part of it, and I do think you know,
the piece of it where you know Key's playing the
Jets in week one. I don't think that was lost
on anybody in the room. But there was also some

(28:06):
things they were working around for the Steelers. The Steelers actually,
so they're locked in on having on going to Ireland
in week four, and then they had blocks in week one.
In week three also because the Pirates are home and
they share the parking lot with the Pirates, so like
they had to be away in week one, and so

(28:26):
when you start to kind of put all the factors together.
You can see where they were sort of limiting their
options there. And you know, putting the Jets Steelers together
made sense because it's Justin Field's playing against his former team.
But I don't think it would have been at one
o'clock if they knew for sure that Aaron Rodgers was
going to be on the roster.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Hey, ab on the topic of Aaron Rodgers, not to
try to do your job for you, but I've got
some insight in so that leads me to think he's
going to be signed with Pittsburgh at some point in
time here in the future.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Yeah, Well, are you just saying at some point in time,
Like you.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Know, I feel like I feel like there's a speculation
he could retire, you know, maybe with the same situation,
maybe he'd look there. I have some and fo that
it's going to be in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
I don't think it's going to be the Saints. I'm
with you. I mean, I think I think I think
he does wind up with the Steelers. And and you always,
I mean one one thing about this, Brady, like the
way I tried to, you know, talk about it, and
I think it's important to kind of give yourself some
wiggle room on this thing, because because because until he's
under contract, like I think, anything can happen. You know,

(29:37):
I do think his personal situation, which he has referenced
now publicly, I I think that the data that's definitely
a factor here and here's here's how is that. You know,
it would have made a lot of people feel better
if he had just signed a contract in the first
week April, right. The problem with that is if he
is dealing with a personal situation and he wasn't going

(29:59):
to be able to be there for a lot of
the spring, well then you know, what are you inviting
if you do sign him and then say, well, he's
gonna be away for a while, Well, then every time
you have any stort checkpoint in the spring, whether it's
the beginning of the off season program, the beginning of OTA's,
the beginning of any camp, there's going to be just
an absolute tidal wave of where's Aaron? Why is Aaron?

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Here?

Speaker 6 (30:21):
Is Aaron really committed to the team? And if he's
not under contract, you don't have to deal with that,
you know. Like so I think for Aaron and the Steelers,
it made the most sense and always has made the
most sense to say, like, let's just wait until you're
going to be all the way in and then we'll
do the contract. Now, the risk for the Steelers, of course,

(30:41):
here would be that the guy changes his mind, and
you know, I think you always have to kind of
like leave some margin for air with that. But I
do think that there's a, you know, a pretty good feeling,
and he's gonna wind up signing the Steelers, like you said,
at some point. I'm not saying it's going to be
the next twenty four hours, but I think that is
the Likelio.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Abe, I have some outside information that says George Pickens
is going to the Cowboys. I really have this outside information.
I believe he will be a Dallas Cowboy. Do you
think now taking a shot anyway? Seriously, I thought it
was kind of funny, actually, but he is going George

(31:22):
Pickens is going to Dallas to play for George Pickens
is going to Dallas to play for the Cowboys. What
has the conversations, if any, that you've heard now that
the schedule releases out. They've got a pretty pretty tough schedule.
I mean, they got the Lions, they got the Vikings,
they got the Chargers obviously, the Commanders twice, obviously, the

(31:44):
Eagles twice. I mean, what does this? Does this create
any more excitement? What's the feeling with Dallas right now?

Speaker 7 (31:54):
You know, the one thing I've learned about the Cowboys
WIVAR over the years is that not in the same
category as everybody else. They are when it comes to
these sorts of things scheduling and everything else.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
You can't look at them the same way you look
at anyone else. They went seven and ten last year,
and somehow they got six prime time games, eight standalone games,
and they're playing on Thanksgiving as they always do. They're
in the cuts spotlight on Christmas during the kickoff game.
You know, it's it's like Bill Bartell said, the like
everybody else is allowed to act and the Cowboys are

(32:30):
on the main stage. It's it's just I think, you know,
there's just an acceptance that they're different from everybody else.
So I don't know that the way that they were
scheduled out really has has anything to do with any
sort of acquisition they made in the offseason. Now, does
the pickings thing make them a little bit more appealing,

(32:50):
because there a little bit more intrigue around them. Sure,
you know, they've got a new head coach. You know,
now they've got a new receiver. They're gonna have Dak
Prescott coming back. There's gonna be pressure on Dak. Of course,
it gets hurt me or these signs of sixty million
dollars contract, and so yeah, I mean there's certainly storylines
that intrigue around the Cowboys, but there always is, you know,
It's just it is what that team is. It is

(33:12):
what that team's always been, and it is that that
team will continue to be until they start playing games again.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Get them on x at. Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the MMQB, joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. So you just posted an article about
an hour ago and you talked with the people that
put together the schedule in the NFL and just sort
of how they come to the decisions that they made.
What was the most interesting aspect of their process that

(33:43):
you found to you this year as opposed to previous seasons.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
I think the big thing, one thing I thought was
really interesting was kind of how they looked at the
schedule and there's the automatic like stuff that they know right,
like they that they know before a lot of the
previous season even ends. And one thing that stuck out
was kind of how the division matchups were going to
be really attractive in that the NFC East, which is
the big brand, was going to play the NFC North,

(34:11):
and the NFC North obviously is very very deep, and
the the NFC North was going to play the AFC North,
which is similarly deep. So that was going to create,
i think, a deeper, richer schedule than than than they
usually have. And they went back to last.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
Year and they felt like last year was so two
years ago.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
They rolled the dice in the Lions and put in
the Lions the kickoff game, and the idea there was
like we're gonna sort of be ahead on this, and
it worked. The Lions wound up fulfilling the potential that
a lot of people thought they had. You know, went
to the NFC title game that year and all of
that last year they went the other way and did

(34:50):
you know, a championship game rematch between the Ravens and
the Chiefs, and you know, I think what they found
was just putting a big game, like amplifying a big
window with a big game really really worked, and so
you know, going into this year, I think they with
a deeper recher schedule, they felt like, let's just you know,

(35:15):
let's just take a commitment. We're going to go big
all over the place wherever we can, and let's not
overcomplicate this, and let's not get cute, and let's just
put the big brands and the big windows. And I
think that that's reflected Chris in the kickoff window where
they're they're putting Eagles Cowboys, where I think, you know,
the logic a lot of other years would have been
like let's save that one. That thing'll rate no matter what.

(35:37):
They're putting that big game in that big window. And
I think it's reflected on Thanksgiving too, like the I
can't remember the last time the Cowboys had an opponent
like the Chiefs coming in, you know, but Cowboys Chiefs
now looks like a massive game from television standpoint. Anyways,
we'll see how good the Cowboys wind up being. But
we're a television standpoint. That's a massive, massive draw right
there on Thanksgiving Day. So that to me was the

(35:59):
most interesting thing. Is like a lot of times you
look at it and say, Okay, the kickoff window the Thanksgiving
late afternoon Dallas teame like those games are going to
rate no matter what, Like we could put whoever we
want in that window and it's not going to matter.
Like now they're kind of it's almost a different course
on it a little bit, you know what, Like now
we're going to try to put huge games and huge windows,

(36:21):
and let's do what happens.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Ab who got shafted this year with their schedule, Like
who's the one schedule look at and go, oh, probably
would have the season would have won a different direction.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Maybe if they didn't have the schedule they've.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
Got, Oh, Brady Quinton, you're very on Cleveland Brown, You're
very own Cleveland Brown.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
They should have a primetime game or maybe.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Yeah, I mean, well the zero primetime games is kind
of a slop in the stace. But I mean, like,
look at this, right, so they play the Bengals at Ravens,
Packers at Lions, the Vikings in London, and then they're
at the Steelers coming back the next week, like that
could and as this isn't a shot the Cleveland at

(37:04):
the team. The team had a chance to be pretty decent,
But are they going to be favored in any of
those games, probably not, right, Yeah, yeah, So like I
mean like like that's like, I mean, if you're talking
one six, like what does that look like then you know,
like with the quarterback situation being what it is and
everything else. I mean, it's just like it's hard not

(37:27):
to look at that and say, like, that is a
really tough draw for a team that's going to have
a lot going on. I'm still going to have to
figure out a lot very early in the year. That
was one that that was one that.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Sorry sorry, that might be why their win totals listed
at four and a half on draft games.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
It could be. Yeah, I mean, I but I look
at it like that's like one where it's like, man,
like that's stuff. I think the Cowboys would be one
if you look at that and say so like last year, right,
Like so the Jets last year they got screwed up
with top where it was like they had to go
to San Francisco on Monday night, then they had to
play another road game the following Sunday at Tennessee, and

(38:06):
then they had to come back and play their home
opener on Thursday against the Patriot.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
So that was because I heard.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
Right, but that I think those guys would tell you.
And then they went to London two weeks after that,
Like I think those guys would tell you. Guys who
went through that that completely set their season off the rails.
So like this year they only did that three games
and ten days sing to one team where it was Monday,
Sunday Thursday. But that was the Cowboys. And if there's

(38:38):
one owner who's not going to complain about being put
in those sorts of windows, who's it going to be
with Jerry Jones? Right? So like the Cowboys, you can
look at their schedule and you can find some of
those things, but I also think Jerry invites those things.
They play on Thursday four times, guys. Now one of
them is a kickoff granted, but it is sort of

(38:59):
interesting like seeing like where the Cowboys are playing that
funky to Monday four fourth Thursday schedule, And if it
was anybody else, you'd be saying, like, man, they got
a lot to complain about. But you know their owner
is somebody who's never going to complain about being putting
those windows because he wants, you know, them on those
sorts of stages.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Aybe, have you gotten any word any discussion that's come
out of the rookie camp in in Cleveland. Obviously it's
a topic of discussion amongst people in football as to
what they're going to do. And I mean, do you
have an idea what they're going to do at the
quarterbacks position too? To that point, sure, I think.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
I mean, I would say, LeVar, it's just there's a
long way to go, you know. I think that's the
main thing that I've gotten coming back from those people,
and it's just, you know, I don't know. I you know,
I think the challenge now for Kevin Szanski and Tommy
Reize and all the people there is going to be
the narrow the competition at least a little bit over

(40:04):
the course of the next six weeks, like in the
rookie camp as the start of that. But I don't
know how you can go in the summer with four
guys like on even playing field at the quarterback position
while you're trying to build a team that's ready to
go Week one. I think it's really difficult to do that.
You know, so with all the rules being what they
are now and everything else, So you know, I will

(40:28):
say the one thing that I have heard on Dylan
Gabriel is he was just absolutely outstanding during the pre
draft process. Freddie, you might have dealt with him a
little bit, right like when you college with your college
stuff apparent super cum.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Mature high football IQ like does says all the right things.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, like from what I heard, just
checked every single box. Like it was awesome during the
pre draft process, which is part of why you know
he goes in the third round even though he's got
something of a limited you know, physical skill set, you know,
so there's that. And then I think with Shador it
was kind of like the grade got the point for
some of the guys in that building where it was

(41:07):
like we we sort of have to take a swing here.
The problem that creates the course is now you got
four quarterbacks battling it out. Now. I have heard some
people say like, and this has come up a few times, well,
Joe Placo doesn't need the rest. But I don't know
that Joe Placo is going to be so open to
the idea of taking a step back if it's going
to give the other guys in the competition an advantage,

(41:27):
you know, in other words, like if you're Joe Blacco,
or are you going to sit there and say, oh, yeah,
no big deal. You get the work with the receivers,
you get the work with the offense, you get the
work with a new coordinator. I'll just sit here and
I'll buy my time. Like, I don't know that Joe
would sign off on that either when he's trying to
win the starting job, you know. So it's a complicated situation,
certainly a challenging one for Kevin and for you know,

(41:50):
a first year coordinator there, and Tommy Reeves too, Aby.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
We got thirty seconds. I'm just curious what's the timeline
on any either extension or trade for Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
I don't know there is one. There's a really unpredictable situation.
But I don't think there's any hometown discount calling. Obviously
this thing is in the great spot right now, and
there are enough pass rushers who are making, you know,
in the mid thirties, Max Crosby and d'anil Hunter I
think would be two pretty good comps there where you
look at it and you say, the Bengals are gonna

(42:24):
have to bite the bull and pay him in that
neighborhood or else this is gonna this is gonna last
a while.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Get him on X at Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the MMQB. A great article just
posted about what goes into the scheduling in the NFL
each and every year on his X account again at
Albert brier ab. We appreciate it. We'll do it again
next week.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Be all right, buddy.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
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