June 6, 2025 • 39 mins
Tyrese Haliburton shines but Siakam was the best in Game 1 of the Finals. Aaron Rodgers finally heads to Pittsburgh. Energy levels, retirement and burnout on the Topic Roundup. Plus, Lyin’ Lee and Big Feet on Lee’s Leftovers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I thought we'd decided on pop It as the brand
new intro for hour three, Lee, what happened to that?
I thought we were going with pop it and instead
we get this crummy Lincoln Park song again.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I mean, I'm a big fan of the mister Lincoln Park.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
So yeah, well, you ain't a big fan when you
get orders to do something and then you don't do it. Yeah,
but clearly, clearly it happens when this is the song
that is playing though, you know, which is interesting. It
means that that all requests are not treated equally.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Well, you know, I showed respect to a fallen brother here.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You know, it just comes out, you know, the truth
comes out every single day is all I mean. Even
my song was changed when Prince Knox was out Private Pile.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Did you change the Lincoln Park song Jelly Donut?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Come on, Lee? Just that's interesting, man. You know you
know what I got? You know what I got when
my song got changed and I was still here on
the show, was well, I didn't know. I was unaware
of the change that lisaid. Yeah, that's what LI said.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Lee, How do you not know there was a change
because you guys go behind my back and like talk
to your best buddy.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
You know, now it becomes you, guys, It becomes you, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I wasn't even here when the songs got changed. I
didn't even know anything about it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
But here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say to
Lee throwing that reckless claim, even though it is true,
it's relessly because when when I when I specifically go
to Vets to get my song changed, what is the
key to words there? Right? My song? Like my song,
(02:26):
I'll go to change my song. On hour two, it
has developed that Jonas gets our one, LeVar gets our two,
Brady gets our three. Like that's what it was. Brady's
not here for a certain amount of time. Extended amount
of time, and yet and yet it's well I didn't
(02:52):
I didn't get it clear to change it yet, Like
like what Jonas is gone for three days and my
song is changed the whole time.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I didn't even know anything about it.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, just just and that was like I'm sitting there
waiting for my song to come on and a song
that was selected for every single hour of the show
was executed and I had no idea about it. That's
but that's what you know. It's called show politics. That's all.
Is what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You want to address that, Hey, it is what it is, man,
just get No, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Not what it is. It is what it is. It's
not get in line, it's not you're the producer of
the show, which means if my song gets changed, you
should have been the first person. Like wait, hold on,
I didn't talk to LeVar about changing my song to this? LeVar, Hey,
is this the song that you wanted? And I would
have been like, I had no idea that my song
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was going to get.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Changed, right, So it came to and said var what
song you want right.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
For?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
When when Joe was out? Yeah, no, that's not true.
That's not true because I was thoroughly surprised when Hour
two came and my song which changed.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I know these guys behind me scenes had.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You asked me like you just said, see now you're
guilty now that you fetch your foot and you just
gave yourself away because you talk too much.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You said you didn't care anymore. You said the all
good buddy.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I said, Loraina could choose my song. So now you're
guilty again. Did Loraina choose my hour two song when
Jonas was out? Yes? Or no?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Okay, Ricky stop that stop that You trying to find
a way out and you can't, damn. But it's clear.
It's clear to see what what you know what the
pecking order is around here, which is crazy because I'm
clearly the oldest. I clearly have the most most stripes
in this in this game, in this radio game, and
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I get the less respect. So y'all should just call
LeVar Dangerfield. You know that's that's me, LeVar Dangerfield.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, I mean, listen, all those changes happen when I'm
not here because they know if I'm here, Daddy'll bring
on the belt.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Right. Well, your song was changed while you were out too,
by the way, Yeah, that there goes that theory. Well, listen,
they did not keep your song the same when you
were out.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Uh here I speaking of the same here on two
pros and a Cup of Joe. We got a little
bit of the same story from the NBA last night
in the playoffs. It was the Indiana Pacers who have
done it again. They rise from the dead and they
somehow get their corpse to get them over the finish line,
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giving them one lead for the entire game, and that
lead was the final score of the game. On a
Tyrese Haliburton shot with three tenths of a second left,
the Indiana Pacers pull off a stunner there in Oklahoma City.
The crowd didn't know what to do. They're looking around
like what the f The Pacers are running onto the
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floor celebrating, but if you ask their head coach Rick Carlisle,
not really much of a celebration.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
We haven't been celebrating a whole lot with anything, really,
and that's some of that is our experience last year.
So some of it is Pascal having been through, you know,
this kind of a run and getting to the finals
before you.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Know, we know we have a lot of work to do.
And we have to play a lot better.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
I mean, nineteen turnovers and a half is if it's
not a record for the finals, it's kind to be
up there close to it. And they're a menace, you know, defensively,
and we too often took it into crowds and then
you know, other times they just take the ball out
of your hands.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So that was Carlisle just detailing the issues at Oklahoma
City provides his team. Yet somehow, some way, the Pacers
win Game one and all of a sudden make it
that much more interesting NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
You know what makes me happy about what he coach
just said. Coach Carlisle had to say about the team.
Everybody is losing their minds about Halliburton, all right, and
it was a great clutch shot. I heard from some
of the promos that you know, we listened to during
the commercial, how some people are talking about the game.
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It's clear that they really didn't break down what the
game looked like and how it went, because if you did,
the storyline would not be Halliburton coming out of the
game outside of his game winning shot. It would be
Pascal Siakam, which you heard Carlile say, He's been here
before he understands what this represents. He understands what this
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game is and what this series represents because he's been
there before and played at a very very high level,
so high in fact, that it built his brand and
his name to a reckonable game. So when it became
his captainship of the of the ship, like this is
my ship now right, this is this is I'm the
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captain now right.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Way, the fact that you brought that up the other day,
I can't get that out of my mind when ill
because they look just alike.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And I can't say that. I can't say that because
I'll get accused of I don't. I don't see why
you can't say it. I mean, there are very striking
simularities and look like if you were to say, Pascal
Siakam play that role in that movie, a lot of
people would have been like, dang, I'm today years old
when I found out that he was the guy that
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said that that quote in the movie. I mean, that
is what it is, uh speak, be clear on it.
He's your MVP right now after game one. Pascal Siakam
again is your MVP again, And yet he's not the
name that people are throwing around. If you watch that
that game winning shot by Halliburton, they converge on Siakam.
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Siakam was heading towards the rim and because who who's
the ball hited dude again, I'm I'm I'm blanking on
his name for ok se that that a Caruso. Okay,
So Caruso. If they were really scared of Halliburton on
that shot, Caruso would have stayed home and help and
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and it would have been a double team to close
out on Tyrese Halliburton. And and so when you look
at how it played out, Halliburton is able to get
past his defender create enough space to pull up and
shoot the shot because it was one on one and
he saw Caruso drop down to cover cover pass out
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passcal Siakam. At the point in time that that Halliburton
is pulling up, there are three defenders. Three dork goes
towards him, the big I want to say, the big
Williams I think he was in the game. He goes
towards them. There were three defenders. There were three defenders,
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and there were two counted two Indiana pacers that were
wide open on the other side. On the other side
that could have shot the shot. When Tyree shot the shot,
there was at least one second on the clock, at
least one second. There was point three left when he
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made the shot. There was I want to say, five
seconds or so that was on the clock when he
had it, and it was literally almost two seconds. It
was in the one second deal when Haliburton took the shot,
meaning he could have swung that ball, and there were
two dudes wide as open to shoot the ball because
the defenders, three of them chose to go after Pascal
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Siakam and make sure he wasn't the guy that beat him.
It's not being talked about, it's not being discussed. And
yet we'll get to the end of this series and
if some ways, somehow the Pacers are able to win
this series, you'll actually hears as it stands right now today,
if it continues on the trend that it's on now,
you'll hear Pascal Siakam's name named again for Finals MVP.
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If it continues this way in this series.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Another guy who deserves some credit obi Topman, who had
he had five threes and hit some big shots there
and was actually the one who get when they got
the rebound and they're heading down the floor obi top
them basically handed the ball to Tyre, like get this
away from me. You take it like you take it
because we trust that you're gonna make a play and
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you're gonna deliver us in the clutch there.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
So that was a fun Game one.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Still, though the betting odds would indicate that it should
be the Oklahoma City thunder who are hoisting up the
Ilarry O'Brien trophy at the end of this whole thing.
If you're looking right now at the odds for Game
two courtesy a courtesy of our friends at DraftKings, Oka
See is an eleven point favorite and still a minus
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three hundred to win the series. So still a three
to one favorite or a three to one favorite that
is to win the series over the Indiana Pacers who
are getting back plus two forty five.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So you was a difficult series though to give away
game well is it's a it's a tone setter for
the series for one. Obviously, they always say when you
play a seven game series, the better team is generally
going to win because it's just too many games. It's
too many games for a team that is an inferior
team to the other one to win the series. It
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just doesn't. It doesn't play out that way. And so
unless there's like an injury or whatever it may be
that changes the series dynamic. But as it stands today,
one hundred percent, the OKC is the more superior team.
So you would think Convince Wisdom says to stick with
OKC in this series. But with that being said, when
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you have when you have guys that can find a
way to win for the other team, now it becomes
can you get the support that SGA has gotten this
this far. Can you get that support to be able
to continue to be that superior team. He did not
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get that support from his guys last night. He didn't
get it. Caruso gave you eleven and and gave you
some valuable gave you some valuable moments, not a crazy amount,
but gave you. You know, he gave you twenty eight minutes.
But he didn't have a tremendously large impact on the game.
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Dork was off. He didn't give you really too much
offensive production in the game. Jay Williams big man, he
came in to do what he needed to do. He
gave them seventeen, which should have been good enough for
a bench player. But when you look at the rest
of these guys, they did not give Sga the support
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that he needed to be able to win the game.
And they still only lost by one point. So to me,
that says they don't come out and have as poor
a game shooting as they did in this first game,
which means if I'm a betting man, I'm looking at Okay,
see the bounce back and have a big game, and
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it could look like that game that you thought it
was going to look like where Oklahoma really dominates them,
and instead of allowing Indiana to come back that fifteen
point lead, balloons into a thirty point lead and you
see a blowout take place. I would not be surprised
if that's what you see in this next upcoming game.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So the other storyline that took place yesterday, the other
big story outside of the impressive win by the Indiana
Fasers was Aaron Rodgers signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Oh that's impressive.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So well, the win by the Pacers is impressive. Aaron
Rodgers signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers. It is a done deal.
He will be flying in reportedly later on today he
will sign his contract to report and be ready to
go before Mini Camp which goes next week there in Pittsburgh.
And so you know, LeVar, I mean you basically were
(15:24):
not all that enthused about Aaron Rodgers' arrival in Pittsburgh.
I found it disrespectful. I found it ungrateful, to be
honest with you, based on listen. You know, we talked
about the Steve McNair untold Netflix documentary. Aaron Rodgers had
a Netflix documentary and a good friend of the show
(15:45):
like we are, we were featured on it.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
How soon you forget.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Aaron Rodgers is back if he was spotted, so at
least we know he's in the country. The big question
is where the hell was he and when it finally does.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Come out, is he going to get buried by bitter
people in.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
The media that are going to be well, there's certain
people who have some sort of an issue with Rogers,
but a little bit of an agenda, if you will.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
That was he over there to see the pyramids?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
He wanted to go inside there and see you see
what all the us.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I mean, and you hear you, I made a cameo
on the joint, you know what I mean, I came
in there at the end, you sound real smooth. My
guy ain't going out to you like you sound like
the voice of sports radio. There I was. I was
thoroughly impressed, and I was super proud that my guy
was was laying it down like that the Pyramids line
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is is like that's gold. By the way, you want
to know first of all, that's gold, baby. You want
to know how.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Uh, how impressed we were and how grateful we were.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
We didn't even know that we were on there, Like.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Somebody watched it was like, hey, you're on the Netflix documentary, Like.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
What you mean?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You know, you know what's crazy. What's even more interesting
is that our producer didn't take that hit and give
it to the social media team and say this needs
to go out to build the brand of the show
and the awareness of the show, like that's great exposure
for the distribution of the show. Had nothing. You know,
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there's no acknowledgment of it. No, no, it wasn't pushed
out on social it wasn't talked about like you know,
two pros and a Cup of Joe for Fox Sports
Radio's Iheartsports Show, one of the best growing shows, Top
growing shows in the country and all of radio. Here's
Jonas Knox on the Aaron Rodgers documentary on Netflix, like
none of that. You know, it's all good though, Yeah,
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you know, because we're like the Pascal Siakam of radio
man like they looking at somebody else to be the MVP.
But you know, we just make plays. You look at
our you look at what we do. We just we
just keep making plays. That's all. We're the captains now,
we're the captains of this ship. Lee.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
That never got pushed out on social media.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah did no, it didn't, Lee, Okay, show us, show us,
post it on on the Fox Sports Radio. Do it
from the crank shuttle too, by the way, don't do
it from the official site.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I don't know who's the crank shuttle.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I ain't got that one. Do it from the knee doppler,
the LeVar knee doppler.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Like I read these tweet these Twitter handles.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Were we Was it actually featured on uh on the FSR,
twitters and social It was not, Joan, I don't remember
that it was.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I don't understand why Lee would sit there and shoot
that like he was coming from the hip about what
goes on from our show, because if there's anyone who
sits there and watch dogs what's going on, it's me
that joint twenty three out of twenty four hours a
day looking at our social media and looking at our
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youtubes and seeing who's going out, who's being pushed, what's
being done. I look at it. There's not one we're
featured on. He can change his answer. You're allowed to
change the answer, and they'd be okay.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, I'll change it.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'm sure we did well.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You'd have to care to remember or to know in
the first place that I think that's what ultimately comes down.
Maybe when we did this, it happened on a Wednesday,
and then you know, you had delivery Wednesdays, and it
just didn't pop off the way that it was supposed
to pop off. I get it. But the bottom line
is is that our show has done this numerous times.
Numerous times by the way, mind you, because we were
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in Receiver too, I believe was a receiver or quarterback
the first quarterback one we were in a show from
Omaha Productions.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Really, yes, I didn't know that. I didn't know that one.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It was me, Yes, you did. What was it where
I was talking about uh, the the the the pressure
falling on them and this, that and the other. I
think that was Booie Knights. No, it was not Boogie Knights,
but that would have been a good guess because we
definitely seen that quite a few times with the turtleneck
(20:18):
action going on, uh in studio. But that wasn't it.
This was for another docu series that was on Netflix
that we were featured on, UH and and we just
weren't on it. Wow, Like we just weren't pushed out.
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Though, you know, I don't have a Netflix account. I
know that's all right, you.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Know, the the cream always rises to the top in
spite of what do you mean you don't have a
Netflix account?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I hate Netflix.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You just you reported on the FARV documentary. Isn't that
on Netflix?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And he just said, are you guys watching the Quille
O'Neill documentary on Netflix? Are you watching?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Comes out today?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He just did that on which lie is the real lie?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Can we just down please? They're all real lies? That
has to be the name of it. That. I love
Lee's segment, Lee's Real Lives. That's what it should be.
You know, we should do we should have.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Left over instead of spinning, it's sped a spinning wheel
for the for the Belmont. Let's spin a wheel of
lies and see which one lands on, which is which is?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
This is what we should do. This is what we
should do. Jonas Lee's Lies should be the last segment,
and we should go through and at the end of
the segment decide which one was the lie, which one
was the realist lie of them all? What happened and
cast our vote on that. What happened here?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well, I'll find a way to watch something. But I
want to watch something, but I don't have a Netflix scout.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
God, I just.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I know.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I got rid of that when they started upgrading it
to like twenty five bucks a month.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Hour you discussing the Brett Favre documentary.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Oh, I watch that. I find a way to watch it.
I pirate it if you want to know Jesus all right.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you
coming up next here, though, several stories in and around
the world of sports and beyond that we have got
to get into because if we don't, it's going to
be way too late. It's time to round them all up,
and it's yours here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
a little over fifteen minutes from now, we are going
to close up shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
That'll be yours right here on FSR here on this
Football Friday.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
But it is a Friday tradition.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Started doing this a couple of weeks back in which
there are certain storylines maybe we've not had a chance
to dust off, discuss, breakdown if you will, and before
we run out of time here on this Friday, we
decided to do this.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
Yeah, settle up, partner, starting them there, checks all right,
it's the Topic round up and.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Away we go, all right as a cactus Like.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Always, DJ Reid slat down that cact God, DJ Reed,
you are first up here in this week's edition of
Topic roundup, you see, because.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
He was with the New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Now he's with the Detroit Lions, and he's spoke about
the difference in vibe, the difference in energy between New
York and Detroit.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
But at the end of the day, you know, we
get paid to play football, and you know, you make
a commitment to your team to play and to play
to your best of your abilities.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
But it is tough.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
You know, when you get to October November and you're
kind of already out the playoffs, that's that is tough
because you know, you I feel like, you know, the
energy is different when you know you're playing for something.
But at the end of the day, you got to
go out there and you know, put stuff on tape,
put great stuff on tape, because that's your resume. There's
the energy difference immediately notable here.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, for sure, you think.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And by the way, what does it say about how
bad the New York Jets are that the Lions, who
used to be the laughing stock of sports are now
the upgrade over the New York Jets. Like what like
they're they're on an escalator in a crowded mall. One's
going up and the other one's going down. The problem
is that escalator never ends.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
For the Jets. It ended for the Lions. They're back,
all right.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
There's a lot of optimism there and the New York
Jets are just sitting around going now. We've got players
that'd rather be in Detroit than here.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Oh, much like how our segments started off. It's just
all about the culture of what you have, the confidence,
the preparation of it, you know, execution, it's the leadership.
It's the leadership that makes all of the difference because
that dictates the execution and the direction that an operation
is going in, and that clearly isn't where it needs
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to be in New York or in Sherman Oaks, California.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Now, what are you getting at there?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
What are you getting at anything? I'm saying culture does
make a difference. It can make the difference in the performance.
I think it all right.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Next up on this week's edition of Topic Round Up,
our old friend Derek Carr. Oh nice Derek Carr, who
retired from the Saints. He tried to explain it away
yet again. He was talking with David Ramsey at Front
Office Sports and said the following quote, it was tough
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because I didn't want to have surgery and just sit there.
And it sounds crazy, but just take the Saints' money.
I wouldn't have been able to play if I had
the surgery, and then if I tried to play with it,
I wasn't near one hundred percent, and so that doesn't
help them either. I just felt like it was the
right thing to do for myself and for the team.
I never played for just the money. I had a
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whole bunch of people tell me how crazy I was. Man,
I've never done that. That's all cool, but I've gained
all these things in the world that it has to offer,
and it doesn't really do anything for your heart. I
knew my heart was at peace, and that's really all
that mattered. Derek Carr not doing it for the money,
despite taking ten million dollars on the way out the.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Door, compare to what he could have taken had he
stayed that, I mean, it makes it a valid statement
that he's made. And listen, I don't think there's anything
wrong with what he said, even if people would want
to take his temperature and his pulse on if he
(27:17):
really meant that or not. Unless he comes out of
retirement like you guys are saying or predicting, I would
say the dude is an honorable dude and just comes
across as the guy that means what he says and
says what he means, and there's no reason to have
any type of reservations about if he's speaking his truth.
(27:40):
He's just one of those guys I believe is believable
in the things that he says. And so in this
scenario in particular, sure, it's a lot of money that
he walked away from and he would have been sitting
there it had the surgery taken place by his account,
and he didn't want to do that, and he didn't
want to take New Orleans money by doing that, I'm certain,
and he realizes by him being an unselfish person that
(28:04):
was willing to give, it's something that most likely will
come back in a different type of fold more fold, fivefold, six, tenfold,
it'll come back to him. Sometimes you got to give
to get. Sometimes you do give with no intentions of
receiving and getting back, and yet the action does lead
to that. And that seems like Carr is one of
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those type of people. You want to know why I'm
Team Rodgers over team Carr. Why is that?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Because at least Aaron Rodgers is sitting at some festival
in Austin with Mike stud the Rapper, and somebody says, hey,
what about the Saints?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Would you ever quarterback the Saints?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And he's like, no, I don't want to live in Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Why didn't Drek.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Carr just say I don't want to play for the
Saints anymore? Is what it is? Because the idea that well,
I just needed to retire for my health. Then why
did you reach out to multiple teams to see whether
or not there was trade interest.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Like, just come out and say it. I would add
so much more respect for it.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
If you would have. But it's even if that's the case,
and that's true, I think that depending on what the
right situation would be, you would have no problem sitting
on the sideline recovering from your injury with the idea
of knowing that you would transition into being the quarterback
of that franchise. I don't think he felt that way
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about the Saints, like there was no reason for me
to be here. I don't feel like there's a real
future for me to be here. And if it's I
don't want to live here. If whatever it may be, Jonas,
I think that contemplating of retirement versus anything else became
more of a real opportunity or a real option, we'll
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say for what he was thinking on his list of options.
Final story here says a lot about the Saints. Oh
yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Final story here on this week's edition of the Topic Roundup.
And it's all about burnout. Not burna not what LeVar
uses to point at me from time to time, but
it's all about burnout. Sean McVay talked with Jordan Rodrick
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of The Athletic and basically laid out a couple years ago,
I was pretty miserable. We were coming off the Super
Bowl win. I was really really burnt, really fried. Was
out there at a press conference discussing the team following
the season, and Chris Peterson, the former Washington and Boise
(30:36):
State coach, saw Sean McVay, reached out and became a
mentor to Sean McVay because he too went through the
same type of burnout and he could recognize it on
Sean mcvay's face.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Left him a voicemail.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Sean McVay got emotional about it, called him up and
the two have had a connection ever since. And since then,
McVeigh feels like Chris Peterson has been the real key
to his rebirth as a coach, credits him with making
him a better coach, a better person, and feels like
because of that, he's extended his coaching career because he
(31:15):
gave him a new, brand new way to look at
If anybody's seen Chris Peterson on Fox doing the studio show,
does a great job covering college football. Obviously, was a
great coach and lend it a helping hand for a
guy who needed it. Because coach burnout, as we've learned,
is a real thing.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, man, why wouldn't it be a real thing? Longevity
is the key for both players coaches, GMS longevity mat
It's It's a chaotic industry, so of course you could
get burnout, especially when you feel the pressure of being
able to deliver the goods and the results that are
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connected to coaching and leading a team. You could go
from being at the top to being at the bottom
in a matter of weeks and find yourself looking for
a job. Now, granted, you probably get some guaranteed money
coming your way, but still nonetheless you'll find yourself unemployed.
So there's a lot of a lot of pressure connected
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to the industry that that profession. And yeah, I could
see how you could get burnt out. And as you
pointed out, I mean you know a lot of perks
that come with coaching. I mean, hey, look here, sometimes
you just want to be at home. I always tell
y'all when we start talking about coaches, a lot of
times it be players too. They don't want to go home.
(32:33):
They don't want to go home the one they love.
They don't want to go home and look at them.
They don't want to go home and be with them,
don't want to spoon them, don't want to talk about
how work was. Just don't want to go home and
deal with them, so they stay at work. That's not
Sean mcvay's situation. In fact, I would venture off to
say he probably at times daydreams and thinks about heading
(32:58):
home and what's going to take place at home, you know,
when he's done coaching, like nice little relaxed glass of wine,
look at the wells jumping out of the water, and
you know, watch the sunset and check out Catalina al
and all that stuff. I think that That's probably why
he got burnt out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Hey coach, we're doing third down install today. Coach, where
are you going?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Coach? I don't play well with Aaron Donald, that is.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I know.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
When Aaron Donald retired, coach McVay was looking at him like, dang,
I wish I could come with you. I wish we
could ride off into the sunset together. I mean, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And McVeigh, not that he needs the cash, but once
he does decide to walk away, I mean he's not
even forty yet. Like he could do TV for the
next or streaming for the next twenty five.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
He could be Bill.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Remember everybody thought Bill Kauer was gonna come back, and
he was like, I'm good man, I got my Super Bowl,
I'm gonna I'm gonna stay here and do.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
TV for as long as I want to do it.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Good for Sean McVay. It is that two pros and
a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar
Arrington Jonas Knox with you. We are going to close
up shop on the week that was, and on this
Football Friday with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Next here on FSR, be sure to catch live editions
of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern,
three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. We'll be back
on the air coming up on Monday, six am Eastern time,
three o'clock Pacific. We'll look back on the NBA Finals
for the weekend news and notes from around the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
We're gonna give you out the weekend. Tell them about
the weekend too, Now, don't forget about the weekend. That's
right with our FSR right, you're gonna touch it at
tickled Air tomorrow too. Oh hell yeah, that's right. You
know what I mean. You're gonna hear.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You're gonna hear a little up on Game noon to
two Eastern time, nine am to eleven am Pacific time.
Up on Game yep with mister.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Noon to tw you know, they'll have Jonas knock Show.
You know, well, I don't know why they don't call
this the Jonas knock Show and call it the One
Pro Show on Saturdays, but you know that's it's.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Me it's a it's a two to four pm Eastern
times where you can hear the jkass on many of these.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Fox shows with Brady Quinn LeVar Arrington. I mean, that's
that sounds way better to me. Yeah, there you go.
Time with you. I mean, hello, But you know what's interesting.
You not invited me on your show yet, not one time.
Not one time, because I feel interesting. You just did
(35:35):
your show. You don't want to be on the air
with me, you know, I'm just saying I find it
a tab it interesting that you don't tell the producers
like or whatever, who's ever on the board op, Like, hey,
tell LeVar to hang around for a second. Here's what
I find interesting. I find interesting the.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Fact that coming up on Monday at the same time,
in the same place, we're going to.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Give you that work. The work. You're gonna get that
work here.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
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Speaker 2 (36:22):
These might smell a little fun incredible, but they're still good.
Time to find out what's lap?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
All right? The lap?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
What do we got? Guys? You might have remembered I
sent you a little tweet there actually wasn't.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
I think it was yesterday about a bigfoot sighting in
Colorado Force.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I don't know if you got a good deep look
into that.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
But I've broken this down and I'm big into uh
not that I believe all conspiracy theories.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
But I'm really entertained by him.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I find them fascinating because either it's true or the
person who thought of it's a moron, so that you
really can't.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Lose either way.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And that video looks so fake and with AI, like
artificial intelligence has completely changed the game on everything, Like,
I don't know what to believe anymore, to be honest.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
With you, the dude's almost as tall as the tree
being filmed next to. It's always this far far away
type of angle that captures very elusive. Ain'tsive you know?
(37:32):
I just I find it to be very interesting when
somebody like Lee you believe that there are and and
you know what, I believe you. You think there are
more than one Bigfoot, Like there's family, there's families of
them out there. Harry and Henderson's yeah, you know, yeah,
But Harry is still one Sasquatch. He's one bigfoot there.
(37:53):
You didn't see his family. Didn't you see his family
in that movie? I don't recall seeing Harry, and I
thought he was just one dude anyway, Which was Kevin
Peter Hall about it?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Do you pluralize it big feet or sasquatch eye?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
No, no, no, no, I say bigfoot because everybody says it
in singular.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Form, by the way, I would all say Bigfoot is
on my Mount Rushmore for monster trucks.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
I want to point that out. Here's the other.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Is it not plausible that while people think, well, Bigfoot
is this uh, you know, giant ape like creature, is
it not possible that.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
It's just a really tall, hairy drug addict. Is that
not possible?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
It was very possible, more likely than not.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
A dang what else we got?
Speaker 5 (38:42):
You know, speaking of this, you said hippopotamuses earlier, which
is correct, but you could also say hippopot ofie pluralized hippopotamus.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I'm just saying, I mean, you got to write.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I didn't say you get to be snobby about hippos.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I like hippopotami.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I'm out of here.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I thought we'd decided on pop It as the brand
new intro for hour three, Lee, what happened to that?
I thought we were going with pop it and instead
we get this crummy Lincoln Park song again.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I mean, I'm a big fan of the mister Lincoln Park.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
So yeah, well, you ain't a big fan when you
get orders to do something and then you don't do it. Yeah,
but clearly, clearly it happens when this is the song
that is playing though, you know, which is interesting. It
means that that all requests are not treated equally.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Well, you know, I showed respect to a fallen brother here.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You know, it just comes out, you know, the truth
comes out every single day is all I mean. Even
my song was changed when Prince Knox was out Private Pile.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Did you change the Lincoln Park song Jelly Donut?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Come on, Lee? Just that's interesting, man. You know you
know what I got? You know what I got when
my song got changed and I was still here on
the show, was well, I didn't know. I was unaware
of the change that lisaid. Yeah, that's what LI said.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Lee, How do you not know there was a change
because you guys go behind my back and like talk
to your best buddy.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
You know, now it becomes you, guys, It becomes you, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I wasn't even here when the songs got changed. I
didn't even know anything about it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
But here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say to
Lee throwing that reckless claim, even though it is true,
it's relessly because when when I when I specifically go
to Vets to get my song changed, what is the
key to words there? Right? My song? Like my song,
(02:26):
I'll go to change my song. On hour two, it
has developed that Jonas gets our one, LeVar gets our two,
Brady gets our three. Like that's what it was. Brady's
not here for a certain amount of time. Extended amount
of time, and yet and yet it's well I didn't
(02:52):
I didn't get it clear to change it yet, Like
like what Jonas is gone for three days and my
song is changed the whole time.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I didn't even know anything about it.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, just just and that was like I'm sitting there
waiting for my song to come on and a song
that was selected for every single hour of the show
was executed and I had no idea about it. That's
but that's what you know. It's called show politics. That's all.
Is what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You want to address that, Hey, it is what it is, man,
just get No, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Not what it is. It is what it is. It's
not get in line, it's not you're the producer of
the show, which means if my song gets changed, you
should have been the first person. Like wait, hold on,
I didn't talk to LeVar about changing my song to this? LeVar, Hey,
is this the song that you wanted? And I would
have been like, I had no idea that my song
(03:51):
was going to get.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Changed, right, So it came to and said var what
song you want right.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
For?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
When when Joe was out? Yeah, no, that's not true.
That's not true because I was thoroughly surprised when Hour
two came and my song which changed.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I know these guys behind me scenes had.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You asked me like you just said, see now you're
guilty now that you fetch your foot and you just
gave yourself away because you talk too much.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You said you didn't care anymore. You said the all
good buddy.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I said, Loraina could choose my song. So now you're
guilty again. Did Loraina choose my hour two song when
Jonas was out? Yes? Or no?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Okay, Ricky stop that stop that You trying to find
a way out and you can't, damn. But it's clear.
It's clear to see what what you know what the
pecking order is around here, which is crazy because I'm
clearly the oldest. I clearly have the most most stripes
in this in this game, in this radio game, and
(04:57):
I get the less respect. So y'all should just call
LeVar Dangerfield. You know that's that's me, LeVar Dangerfield.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, I mean, listen, all those changes happen when I'm
not here because they know if I'm here, Daddy'll bring
on the belt.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Right. Well, your song was changed while you were out too,
by the way, Yeah, that there goes that theory. Well, listen,
they did not keep your song the same when you
were out.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Uh here I speaking of the same here on two
pros and a Cup of Joe. We got a little
bit of the same story from the NBA last night
in the playoffs. It was the Indiana Pacers who have
done it again. They rise from the dead and they
somehow get their corpse to get them over the finish line,
(05:45):
giving them one lead for the entire game, and that
lead was the final score of the game. On a
Tyrese Haliburton shot with three tenths of a second left,
the Indiana Pacers pull off a stunner there in Oklahoma City.
The crowd didn't know what to do. They're looking around
like what the f The Pacers are running onto the
(06:06):
floor celebrating, but if you ask their head coach Rick Carlisle,
not really much of a celebration.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
We haven't been celebrating a whole lot with anything, really,
and that's some of that is our experience last year.
So some of it is Pascal having been through, you know,
this kind of a run and getting to the finals
before you.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Know, we know we have a lot of work to do.
And we have to play a lot better.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
I mean, nineteen turnovers and a half is if it's
not a record for the finals, it's kind to be
up there close to it. And they're a menace, you know, defensively,
and we too often took it into crowds and then
you know, other times they just take the ball out
of your hands.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So that was Carlisle just detailing the issues at Oklahoma
City provides his team. Yet somehow, some way, the Pacers
win Game one and all of a sudden make it
that much more interesting NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
You know what makes me happy about what he coach
just said. Coach Carlisle had to say about the team.
Everybody is losing their minds about Halliburton, all right, and
it was a great clutch shot. I heard from some
of the promos that you know, we listened to during
the commercial, how some people are talking about the game.
(07:24):
It's clear that they really didn't break down what the
game looked like and how it went, because if you did,
the storyline would not be Halliburton coming out of the
game outside of his game winning shot. It would be
Pascal Siakam, which you heard Carlile say, He's been here
before he understands what this represents. He understands what this
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game is and what this series represents because he's been
there before and played at a very very high level,
so high in fact, that it built his brand and
his name to a reckonable game. So when it became
his captainship of the of the ship, like this is
my ship now right, this is this is I'm the
(08:10):
captain now right.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Way, the fact that you brought that up the other day,
I can't get that out of my mind when ill
because they look just alike.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And I can't say that. I can't say that because
I'll get accused of I don't. I don't see why
you can't say it. I mean, there are very striking
simularities and look like if you were to say, Pascal
Siakam play that role in that movie, a lot of
people would have been like, dang, I'm today years old
when I found out that he was the guy that
(08:40):
said that that quote in the movie. I mean, that
is what it is, uh speak, be clear on it.
He's your MVP right now after game one. Pascal Siakam
again is your MVP again, And yet he's not the
name that people are throwing around. If you watch that
that game winning shot by Halliburton, they converge on Siakam.
(09:05):
Siakam was heading towards the rim and because who who's
the ball hited dude again, I'm I'm I'm blanking on
his name for ok se that that a Caruso. Okay,
So Caruso. If they were really scared of Halliburton on
that shot, Caruso would have stayed home and help and
(09:28):
and it would have been a double team to close
out on Tyrese Halliburton. And and so when you look
at how it played out, Halliburton is able to get
past his defender create enough space to pull up and
shoot the shot because it was one on one and
he saw Caruso drop down to cover cover pass out
(09:50):
passcal Siakam. At the point in time that that Halliburton
is pulling up, there are three defenders. Three dork goes
towards him, the big I want to say, the big
Williams I think he was in the game. He goes
towards them. There were three defenders. There were three defenders,
(10:15):
and there were two counted two Indiana pacers that were
wide open on the other side. On the other side
that could have shot the shot. When Tyree shot the shot,
there was at least one second on the clock, at
least one second. There was point three left when he
(10:35):
made the shot. There was I want to say, five
seconds or so that was on the clock when he
had it, and it was literally almost two seconds. It
was in the one second deal when Haliburton took the shot,
meaning he could have swung that ball, and there were
two dudes wide as open to shoot the ball because
the defenders, three of them chose to go after Pascal
(10:58):
Siakam and make sure he wasn't the guy that beat him.
It's not being talked about, it's not being discussed. And
yet we'll get to the end of this series and
if some ways, somehow the Pacers are able to win
this series, you'll actually hears as it stands right now today,
if it continues on the trend that it's on now,
you'll hear Pascal Siakam's name named again for Finals MVP.
(11:23):
If it continues this way in this series.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Another guy who deserves some credit obi Topman, who had
he had five threes and hit some big shots there
and was actually the one who get when they got
the rebound and they're heading down the floor obi top
them basically handed the ball to Tyre, like get this
away from me. You take it like you take it
because we trust that you're gonna make a play and
(11:46):
you're gonna deliver us in the clutch there.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
So that was a fun Game one.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Still, though the betting odds would indicate that it should
be the Oklahoma City thunder who are hoisting up the
Ilarry O'Brien trophy at the end of this whole thing.
If you're looking right now at the odds for Game
two courtesy a courtesy of our friends at DraftKings, Oka
See is an eleven point favorite and still a minus
(12:11):
three hundred to win the series. So still a three
to one favorite or a three to one favorite that
is to win the series over the Indiana Pacers who
are getting back plus two forty five.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So you was a difficult series though to give away
game well is it's a it's a tone setter for
the series for one. Obviously, they always say when you
play a seven game series, the better team is generally
going to win because it's just too many games. It's
too many games for a team that is an inferior
team to the other one to win the series. It
(12:44):
just doesn't. It doesn't play out that way. And so
unless there's like an injury or whatever it may be
that changes the series dynamic. But as it stands today,
one hundred percent, the OKC is the more superior team.
So you would think Convince Wisdom says to stick with
OKC in this series. But with that being said, when
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you have when you have guys that can find a
way to win for the other team, now it becomes
can you get the support that SGA has gotten this
this far. Can you get that support to be able
to continue to be that superior team. He did not
(13:27):
get that support from his guys last night. He didn't
get it. Caruso gave you eleven and and gave you
some valuable gave you some valuable moments, not a crazy amount,
but gave you. You know, he gave you twenty eight minutes.
But he didn't have a tremendously large impact on the game.
(13:47):
Dork was off. He didn't give you really too much
offensive production in the game. Jay Williams big man, he
came in to do what he needed to do. He
gave them seventeen, which should have been good enough for
a bench player. But when you look at the rest
of these guys, they did not give Sga the support
(14:08):
that he needed to be able to win the game.
And they still only lost by one point. So to me,
that says they don't come out and have as poor
a game shooting as they did in this first game,
which means if I'm a betting man, I'm looking at Okay,
see the bounce back and have a big game, and
(14:30):
it could look like that game that you thought it
was going to look like where Oklahoma really dominates them,
and instead of allowing Indiana to come back that fifteen
point lead, balloons into a thirty point lead and you
see a blowout take place. I would not be surprised
if that's what you see in this next upcoming game.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So the other storyline that took place yesterday, the other
big story outside of the impressive win by the Indiana
Fasers was Aaron Rodgers signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Oh that's impressive.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So well, the win by the Pacers is impressive. Aaron
Rodgers signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers. It is a done deal.
He will be flying in reportedly later on today he
will sign his contract to report and be ready to
go before Mini Camp which goes next week there in Pittsburgh.
And so you know, LeVar, I mean you basically were
(15:24):
not all that enthused about Aaron Rodgers' arrival in Pittsburgh.
I found it disrespectful. I found it ungrateful, to be
honest with you, based on listen. You know, we talked
about the Steve McNair untold Netflix documentary. Aaron Rodgers had
a Netflix documentary and a good friend of the show
(15:45):
like we are, we were featured on it.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
How soon you forget.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Aaron Rodgers is back if he was spotted, so at
least we know he's in the country. The big question
is where the hell was he and when it finally does.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Come out, is he going to get buried by bitter
people in.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
The media that are going to be well, there's certain
people who have some sort of an issue with Rogers,
but a little bit of an agenda, if you will.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
That was he over there to see the pyramids?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
He wanted to go inside there and see you see
what all the us.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I mean, and you hear you, I made a cameo
on the joint, you know what I mean, I came
in there at the end, you sound real smooth. My
guy ain't going out to you like you sound like
the voice of sports radio. There I was. I was
thoroughly impressed, and I was super proud that my guy
was was laying it down like that the Pyramids line
(16:46):
is is like that's gold. By the way, you want
to know first of all, that's gold, baby. You want
to know how.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Uh, how impressed we were and how grateful we were.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
We didn't even know that we were on there, Like.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Somebody watched it was like, hey, you're on the Netflix documentary, Like.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
What you mean?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You know, you know what's crazy. What's even more interesting
is that our producer didn't take that hit and give
it to the social media team and say this needs
to go out to build the brand of the show
and the awareness of the show, like that's great exposure
for the distribution of the show. Had nothing. You know,
(17:24):
there's no acknowledgment of it. No, no, it wasn't pushed
out on social it wasn't talked about like you know,
two pros and a Cup of Joe for Fox Sports
Radio's Iheartsports Show, one of the best growing shows, Top
growing shows in the country and all of radio. Here's
Jonas Knox on the Aaron Rodgers documentary on Netflix, like
none of that. You know, it's all good though, Yeah,
(17:48):
you know, because we're like the Pascal Siakam of radio
man like they looking at somebody else to be the MVP.
But you know, we just make plays. You look at
our you look at what we do. We just we
just keep making plays. That's all. We're the captains now,
we're the captains of this ship. Lee.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
That never got pushed out on social media.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah did no, it didn't, Lee, Okay, show us, show us,
post it on on the Fox Sports Radio. Do it
from the crank shuttle too, by the way, don't do
it from the official site.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I don't know who's the crank shuttle.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I ain't got that one. Do it from the knee doppler,
the LeVar knee doppler.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Like I read these tweet these Twitter handles.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Were we Was it actually featured on uh on the FSR,
twitters and social It was not, Joan, I don't remember
that it was.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I don't understand why Lee would sit there and shoot
that like he was coming from the hip about what
goes on from our show, because if there's anyone who
sits there and watch dogs what's going on, it's me
that joint twenty three out of twenty four hours a
day looking at our social media and looking at our
(19:04):
youtubes and seeing who's going out, who's being pushed, what's
being done. I look at it. There's not one we're
featured on. He can change his answer. You're allowed to
change the answer, and they'd be okay.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, I'll change it.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'm sure we did well.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You'd have to care to remember or to know in
the first place that I think that's what ultimately comes down.
Maybe when we did this, it happened on a Wednesday,
and then you know, you had delivery Wednesdays, and it
just didn't pop off the way that it was supposed
to pop off. I get it. But the bottom line
is is that our show has done this numerous times.
Numerous times by the way, mind you, because we were
(19:42):
in Receiver too, I believe was a receiver or quarterback
the first quarterback one we were in a show from
Omaha Productions.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Really, yes, I didn't know that. I didn't know that one.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It was me, Yes, you did. What was it where
I was talking about uh, the the the the pressure
falling on them and this, that and the other. I
think that was Booie Knights. No, it was not Boogie Knights,
but that would have been a good guess because we
definitely seen that quite a few times with the turtleneck
(20:18):
action going on, uh in studio. But that wasn't it.
This was for another docu series that was on Netflix
that we were featured on, UH and and we just
weren't on it. Wow, Like we just weren't pushed out.
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Though, you know, I don't have a Netflix account. I
know that's all right, you.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Know, the the cream always rises to the top in
spite of what do you mean you don't have a
Netflix account?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I hate Netflix.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You just you reported on the FARV documentary. Isn't that
on Netflix?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And he just said, are you guys watching the Quille
O'Neill documentary on Netflix? Are you watching?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Comes out today?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He just did that on which lie is the real lie?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Can we just down please? They're all real lies? That
has to be the name of it. That. I love
Lee's segment, Lee's Real Lives. That's what it should be.
You know, we should do we should have.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Left over instead of spinning, it's sped a spinning wheel
for the for the Belmont. Let's spin a wheel of
lies and see which one lands on, which is which is?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
This is what we should do. This is what we
should do. Jonas Lee's Lies should be the last segment,
and we should go through and at the end of
the segment decide which one was the lie, which one
was the realist lie of them all? What happened and
cast our vote on that. What happened here?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well, I'll find a way to watch something. But I
want to watch something, but I don't have a Netflix scout.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
God, I just.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I know.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I got rid of that when they started upgrading it
to like twenty five bucks a month.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Hour you discussing the Brett Favre documentary.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Oh, I watch that. I find a way to watch it.
I pirate it if you want to know Jesus all right.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you
coming up next here, though, several stories in and around
the world of sports and beyond that we have got
to get into because if we don't, it's going to
be way too late. It's time to round them all up,
and it's yours here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
a little over fifteen minutes from now, we are going
to close up shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
That'll be yours right here on FSR here on this
Football Friday.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
But it is a Friday tradition.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Started doing this a couple of weeks back in which
there are certain storylines maybe we've not had a chance
to dust off, discuss, breakdown if you will, and before
we run out of time here on this Friday, we
decided to do this.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
Yeah, settle up, partner, starting them there, checks all right,
it's the Topic round up and.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Away we go, all right as a cactus Like.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Always, DJ Reid slat down that cact God, DJ Reed,
you are first up here in this week's edition of
Topic roundup, you see, because.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
He was with the New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Now he's with the Detroit Lions, and he's spoke about
the difference in vibe, the difference in energy between New
York and Detroit.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
But at the end of the day, you know, we
get paid to play football, and you know, you make
a commitment to your team to play and to play
to your best of your abilities.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
But it is tough.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
You know, when you get to October November and you're
kind of already out the playoffs, that's that is tough
because you know, you I feel like, you know, the
energy is different when you know you're playing for something.
But at the end of the day, you got to
go out there and you know, put stuff on tape,
put great stuff on tape, because that's your resume. There's
the energy difference immediately notable here.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, for sure, you think.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And by the way, what does it say about how
bad the New York Jets are that the Lions, who
used to be the laughing stock of sports are now
the upgrade over the New York Jets. Like what like
they're they're on an escalator in a crowded mall. One's
going up and the other one's going down. The problem
is that escalator never ends.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
For the Jets. It ended for the Lions. They're back,
all right.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
There's a lot of optimism there and the New York
Jets are just sitting around going now. We've got players
that'd rather be in Detroit than here.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Oh, much like how our segments started off. It's just
all about the culture of what you have, the confidence,
the preparation of it, you know, execution, it's the leadership.
It's the leadership that makes all of the difference because
that dictates the execution and the direction that an operation
is going in, and that clearly isn't where it needs
(25:32):
to be in New York or in Sherman Oaks, California.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Now, what are you getting at there?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
What are you getting at anything? I'm saying culture does
make a difference. It can make the difference in the performance.
I think it all right.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Next up on this week's edition of Topic Round Up,
our old friend Derek Carr. Oh nice Derek Carr, who
retired from the Saints. He tried to explain it away
yet again. He was talking with David Ramsey at Front
Office Sports and said the following quote, it was tough
(26:15):
because I didn't want to have surgery and just sit there.
And it sounds crazy, but just take the Saints' money.
I wouldn't have been able to play if I had
the surgery, and then if I tried to play with it,
I wasn't near one hundred percent, and so that doesn't
help them either. I just felt like it was the
right thing to do for myself and for the team.
I never played for just the money. I had a
(26:36):
whole bunch of people tell me how crazy I was. Man,
I've never done that. That's all cool, but I've gained
all these things in the world that it has to offer,
and it doesn't really do anything for your heart. I
knew my heart was at peace, and that's really all
that mattered. Derek Carr not doing it for the money,
despite taking ten million dollars on the way out the.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Door, compare to what he could have taken had he
stayed that, I mean, it makes it a valid statement
that he's made. And listen, I don't think there's anything
wrong with what he said, even if people would want
to take his temperature and his pulse on if he
(27:17):
really meant that or not. Unless he comes out of
retirement like you guys are saying or predicting, I would
say the dude is an honorable dude and just comes
across as the guy that means what he says and
says what he means, and there's no reason to have
any type of reservations about if he's speaking his truth.
(27:40):
He's just one of those guys I believe is believable
in the things that he says. And so in this
scenario in particular, sure, it's a lot of money that
he walked away from and he would have been sitting
there it had the surgery taken place by his account,
and he didn't want to do that, and he didn't
want to take New Orleans money by doing that, I'm certain,
and he realizes by him being an unselfish person that
(28:04):
was willing to give, it's something that most likely will
come back in a different type of fold more fold, fivefold, six, tenfold,
it'll come back to him. Sometimes you got to give
to get. Sometimes you do give with no intentions of
receiving and getting back, and yet the action does lead
to that. And that seems like Carr is one of
(28:24):
those type of people. You want to know why I'm
Team Rodgers over team Carr. Why is that?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Because at least Aaron Rodgers is sitting at some festival
in Austin with Mike stud the Rapper, and somebody says, hey,
what about the Saints?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Would you ever quarterback the Saints?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And he's like, no, I don't want to live in Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Why didn't Drek.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Carr just say I don't want to play for the
Saints anymore? Is what it is? Because the idea that well,
I just needed to retire for my health. Then why
did you reach out to multiple teams to see whether
or not there was trade interest.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Like, just come out and say it. I would add
so much more respect for it.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
If you would have. But it's even if that's the case,
and that's true, I think that depending on what the
right situation would be, you would have no problem sitting
on the sideline recovering from your injury with the idea
of knowing that you would transition into being the quarterback
of that franchise. I don't think he felt that way
(29:20):
about the Saints, like there was no reason for me
to be here. I don't feel like there's a real
future for me to be here. And if it's I
don't want to live here. If whatever it may be, Jonas,
I think that contemplating of retirement versus anything else became
more of a real opportunity or a real option, we'll
(29:44):
say for what he was thinking on his list of options.
Final story here says a lot about the Saints. Oh
yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Final story here on this week's edition of the Topic Roundup.
And it's all about burnout. Not burna not what LeVar
uses to point at me from time to time, but
it's all about burnout. Sean McVay talked with Jordan Rodrick
(30:15):
of The Athletic and basically laid out a couple years ago,
I was pretty miserable. We were coming off the Super
Bowl win. I was really really burnt, really fried. Was
out there at a press conference discussing the team following
the season, and Chris Peterson, the former Washington and Boise
(30:36):
State coach, saw Sean McVay, reached out and became a
mentor to Sean McVay because he too went through the
same type of burnout and he could recognize it on
Sean mcvay's face.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Left him a voicemail.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Sean McVay got emotional about it, called him up and
the two have had a connection ever since. And since then,
McVeigh feels like Chris Peterson has been the real key
to his rebirth as a coach, credits him with making
him a better coach, a better person, and feels like
because of that, he's extended his coaching career because he
(31:15):
gave him a new, brand new way to look at
If anybody's seen Chris Peterson on Fox doing the studio show,
does a great job covering college football. Obviously, was a
great coach and lend it a helping hand for a
guy who needed it. Because coach burnout, as we've learned,
is a real thing.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, man, why wouldn't it be a real thing? Longevity
is the key for both players coaches, GMS longevity mat
It's It's a chaotic industry, so of course you could
get burnout, especially when you feel the pressure of being
able to deliver the goods and the results that are
(31:51):
connected to coaching and leading a team. You could go
from being at the top to being at the bottom
in a matter of weeks and find yourself looking for
a job. Now, granted, you probably get some guaranteed money
coming your way, but still nonetheless you'll find yourself unemployed.
So there's a lot of a lot of pressure connected
(32:12):
to the industry that that profession. And yeah, I could
see how you could get burnt out. And as you
pointed out, I mean you know a lot of perks
that come with coaching. I mean, hey, look here, sometimes
you just want to be at home. I always tell
y'all when we start talking about coaches, a lot of
times it be players too. They don't want to go home.
(32:33):
They don't want to go home the one they love.
They don't want to go home and look at them.
They don't want to go home and be with them,
don't want to spoon them, don't want to talk about
how work was. Just don't want to go home and
deal with them, so they stay at work. That's not
Sean mcvay's situation. In fact, I would venture off to
say he probably at times daydreams and thinks about heading
(32:58):
home and what's going to take place at home, you know,
when he's done coaching, like nice little relaxed glass of wine,
look at the wells jumping out of the water, and
you know, watch the sunset and check out Catalina al
and all that stuff. I think that That's probably why
he got burnt out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Hey coach, we're doing third down install today. Coach, where
are you going?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Coach? I don't play well with Aaron Donald, that is.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I know.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
When Aaron Donald retired, coach McVay was looking at him like, dang,
I wish I could come with you. I wish we
could ride off into the sunset together. I mean, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And McVeigh, not that he needs the cash, but once
he does decide to walk away, I mean he's not
even forty yet. Like he could do TV for the
next or streaming for the next twenty five.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
He could be Bill.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Remember everybody thought Bill Kauer was gonna come back, and
he was like, I'm good man, I got my Super Bowl,
I'm gonna I'm gonna stay here and do.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
TV for as long as I want to do it.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Good for Sean McVay. It is that two pros and
a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar
Arrington Jonas Knox with you. We are going to close
up shop on the week that was, and on this
Football Friday with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Next here on FSR, be sure to catch live editions
of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern,
three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. We'll be back
on the air coming up on Monday, six am Eastern time,
three o'clock Pacific. We'll look back on the NBA Finals
for the weekend news and notes from around the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
We're gonna give you out the weekend. Tell them about
the weekend too, Now, don't forget about the weekend. That's
right with our FSR right, you're gonna touch it at
tickled Air tomorrow too. Oh hell yeah, that's right. You
know what I mean. You're gonna hear.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You're gonna hear a little up on Game noon to
two Eastern time, nine am to eleven am Pacific time.
Up on Game yep with mister.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Noon to tw you know, they'll have Jonas knock Show.
You know, well, I don't know why they don't call
this the Jonas knock Show and call it the One
Pro Show on Saturdays, but you know that's it's.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Me it's a it's a two to four pm Eastern
times where you can hear the jkass on many of these.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Fox shows with Brady Quinn LeVar Arrington. I mean, that's
that sounds way better to me. Yeah, there you go.
Time with you. I mean, hello, But you know what's interesting.
You not invited me on your show yet, not one time.
Not one time, because I feel interesting. You just did
(35:35):
your show. You don't want to be on the air
with me, you know, I'm just saying I find it
a tab it interesting that you don't tell the producers
like or whatever, who's ever on the board op, Like, hey,
tell LeVar to hang around for a second. Here's what
I find interesting. I find interesting the.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Fact that coming up on Monday at the same time,
in the same place, we're going to.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Give you that work. The work. You're gonna get that
work here.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
If you want to get some of that work on
what happened on today's show, you can check out the
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Speaker 2 (36:22):
These might smell a little fun incredible, but they're still good.
Time to find out what's lap?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
All right? The lap?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
What do we got? Guys? You might have remembered I
sent you a little tweet there actually wasn't.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
I think it was yesterday about a bigfoot sighting in
Colorado Force.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I don't know if you got a good deep look
into that.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
But I've broken this down and I'm big into uh
not that I believe all conspiracy theories.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
But I'm really entertained by him.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I find them fascinating because either it's true or the
person who thought of it's a moron, so that you
really can't.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Lose either way.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And that video looks so fake and with AI, like
artificial intelligence has completely changed the game on everything, Like,
I don't know what to believe anymore, to be honest.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
With you, the dude's almost as tall as the tree
being filmed next to. It's always this far far away
type of angle that captures very elusive. Ain'tsive you know?
(37:32):
I just I find it to be very interesting when
somebody like Lee you believe that there are and and
you know what, I believe you. You think there are
more than one Bigfoot, Like there's family, there's families of
them out there. Harry and Henderson's yeah, you know, yeah,
But Harry is still one Sasquatch. He's one bigfoot there.
(37:53):
You didn't see his family. Didn't you see his family
in that movie? I don't recall seeing Harry, and I
thought he was just one dude anyway, Which was Kevin
Peter Hall about it?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Do you pluralize it big feet or sasquatch eye?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
No, no, no, no, I say bigfoot because everybody says it
in singular.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Form, by the way, I would all say Bigfoot is
on my Mount Rushmore for monster trucks.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
I want to point that out. Here's the other.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Is it not plausible that while people think, well, Bigfoot
is this uh, you know, giant ape like creature, is
it not possible that.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
It's just a really tall, hairy drug addict. Is that
not possible?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
It was very possible, more likely than not.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
A dang what else we got?
Speaker 5 (38:42):
You know, speaking of this, you said hippopotamuses earlier, which
is correct, but you could also say hippopot ofie pluralized hippopotamus.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I'm just saying, I mean, you got to write.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I didn't say you get to be snobby about hippos.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I like hippopotami.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I'm out of here.
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