July 7, 2025 • 41 mins
LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox fill-in on The Herd, recapping their 4th of July shenanigans. Justin Fields has the opportunity to make Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin look really bad. Plus, a pair of heated rivalries in sports and much more!
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
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Monday after a why held Fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Week What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
A wild pre a while, a wild pre show meeting
of the mines and I mean we could have did
a three hour show on the industry, but you know,
behind the scenes storylines, I mean they're really doozy. Yeah,
definitely it's the Celsius. I blame Celsius. I love y'all's
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drink though it is.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Uh, it's been a how was the fourth of July weekend? Huh?
Did you because here's the price. It's on a weekend.
It started on a friday, so you just gave people
an excuse to get butchered for two days.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
After you heard the wildest story. So we got a
rooftop lounge on my house. Right, So we're going upstairs. Everything,
well it must not be. We were up there, we're
hanging out, and the way it's set up, you can't
see us up there.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So if something's.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Going on up there, you can maybe hear it possibly,
or if you do something like say we were to
shoot fireworks off or something like that, you might have
an idea that, Okay, they can get up on the
roof whatever. Right, But it's a balcony, it's a it's
a rooftop lone. So we go up there and we
have one of those. We have a safe portable fire pit.
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Fire pit gets let lit up. But here's what, here's
the problem. The girls go up to do it and
they put five door of flames on there. Five so
you got this big ass flame and the flame was
giving off black smoke. Right, So we're sitting up there,
we're listening to music, we're having a good time. We're
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looking we can see all of the fireworks from the
piers in the Beach City, South Bay all the way
out to wherever Orange County. You could just see all
of the fireworks going off. So we're watching the fireworks
and I'm like, man, these these firemen are going the
police are going to have a busy night because you
could see the random fire works going up right, which,
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by the way, fireworks in la is really a thing.
Bro Oh my god. I heard fireworks from nine a m.
Literally non stop until I went to sleep at like
two am in the morning.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah, white people light fireworks off during the day. I
mean it was the entire day.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
All you heard was oh the whole day.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Anyway, back to my point, so the fire's going up,
and I'm like, man, firemen, cops, they're gonna have to
run around because you know, you make these wildfires, this,
that and the other, and we're not even thinking about
and that's sure enough. You see a fire engine come out,
fire engine comes out out, a die boom, boom boom.
I'm like, oh, man, you hear some fireworks going off
in our area. So it's like the firemen come up
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in our area and it's like they turned the lights off,
but they're coming up in the area. The next thing
you know, they get up and they're like one street
away from us. I was like, man, they're right here.
Something going on right then I looked at our fire pit.
I was like, this fire high. They drive past the street,
so I'm thinking they're about to go past the street.
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They turned the lights on, turn the lights on, turned
down our street.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I was like, yep, they coming here.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I had to go down to the front, grab grab
and they were really really cool. I'm big time, you know,
support first responders. I appreciate Redondo Beach Fire Department. Uh,
really really cool people. So I walk them in. We
walk up, they look at it. They're like, man, everything's cool.
He's like, but your neighbors are freaking out. They are
freaking out. I go look over the ads and I
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see a whole crowd of people in two three yards
looking up. Look it up out of our house. They
thought that bad boy was burning down. So anyways, I
put we put it out. But that was that was
an eventful deal. Now, in your mind, we live in
a day and age with with cell phones that can record. Now,
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I didn't want to record it because anything shady might
have happened, like oh, get it on it. This is
on camera, Da da da. But it would have been
interesting thing to see a camera shot of the fire
engine pulling down our street, then the fire department coming
into the crib, then us having a cool conversation up
on the rooftop.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And then them leaving.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That would have been cool because that's never happened to
me before ever. So there you go. Emergency crew, first
responders came to make sure the house wasn't burning down.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You know what blows my mind the number of people
that decide, knowing all the warning signs, knowing all the dangers,
seeing all the injuries, seeing all that, and still being like,
you got it this year, I got it. Don't warn
Let's let's fire off four or five mortar bombs within
close proximity to somebody's house, children.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
In cars and just see what happens. We weren't doing that,
by the way, but in La everybody was, Yeah they were.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean from nine am, literally from nine am to
one am.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It was non It.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Is not an over exaggeration to say it was non stop.
You could hear the fireworks going off NonStop from nine
to one am.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
So growing up in southern California and two you might
remember this, But it used to be if you wanted
to get fireworks you had to go to a place
called Fillmore. Did you have to go somewhere out in
the moone you gotta go to film It's it can
drive all the way inland to this small town of Fillmore.
By the way, i'l pescador, a great Mexican spot out there.
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But that was the place if you if somebody told you, hey,
I'm going to Fillmore, it's like, oh, hey, bring me
back a Roman candle, like a box.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Of Piccolo Pete's.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Like it was like this undercover, under the radar spot
that you would go to get fireworks.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Now now it seems like you can get them anywhere.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Like somebody's got like a trunk, then they're selling fireworks
out of them. Like there's some rock band trying to
make it in the business selling t shirts out of
the back of their car.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Get fireworks, rocket launchers, grenade launchers.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't understand, oozies.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
It's just it used to be really hard to get
a hold of these things, and nowadays you can do.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Hey, right there, there you go some more. There's some
fireworks right there.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Like I was like, over the weekend, I was talking
Isaac Lohancrawn, who's an anchor here at Fox Sports Radio,
and Isaac was telling me.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
He say, oh, yeah, we have a fireworks alley. I
was like, what's that.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
He goes, oh yeah, it's an alley near our place
and people light off fireworks there. And he sent me
a video. I'm like, oh, you mean all this illegal
activity on video? You mean all that?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Sheriff came by and said, hey, you guys are good.
Enjoy your Fourth of July. I won't tell you what.
Wait what that's just all of a sudden allowed. But
apparently that's what Fourth is July turned into. I will
say some of the dopest fireworks shows. One is in
State College, the one they do i Beaver Stadium. It's
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it's like connected and then sync with like music. It's
pretty dope.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Man, Like, if you're able to go to a fireworks show,
that's like really a show, like even the one at
Disney they do every night. Yeah, oh that's what the
lasers and fireworks and on a crazy man, when you
could do it when somebody's.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Doing it right.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I've never got any type of a rush or any
type of a crazy feeling with with fireworks. I just
rather watch them. It's never been a thing where I'm like,
I gotta like this bad, let's do it. Like that's
just never been my thing. I don't know. I mean,
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I don't know why that is, but but some people
really really get off on letting off on those those fireworks.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Man, they love seeing they lighten the fuse. It's like, dude,
augusta win. That thing tilts over and points in the
direction of either other fireworks or somebody, and we got
a profit them. Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I was just seeing it all on social media where
the joints go in a different direction and went to
the garage blue start blowing the garage up, hit the
card and blew the car up, hitting kids like hit
hit family members like why you doing.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Like I always tell this story, but I remember reading
about this. There was some dude in Maine. Him and
his buddy were out in the field somewhere like I
will be safe. You know, there's no uh no property
within within the distance, so we've got some and the
guy thought it would be a good idea to take
a mortar bomb put it on his head and then
light it. What here's how the ending of that story went.
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H he wasn't going to lids anytime soon. I'll put
it that way.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
There was a couple of dudes that was lighting them
and then squatting on top of them, and then it
took off like and the and the and the catch
the captions be off the chain like like in my stomach,
like get in my belly, and you know what they
were talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The man's jewels was in his belly by the time.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It's just it's the dumbest thing that people do to
try to go viral sometimes is during the fourth of
July fourth of July weekends that they it's crazy what
people do with these fireworks.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, it's it's I don't I don't understand it. I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
And I would also say this, if you want to
spoil yourselves, because Collins in Chicago and Ryan Music will
be out there, let me just little recommendation. You go
to Navy Peer. There's a restaurant at Navy Peer right
up on top and during the summertime they light off
fireworks two days a week. It's awesome and the best
part is professionals are doing it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Go figure, it's not.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
How many professionals do you think do the fireworks during
the course of a fourth of July day?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Less than one percent? Now, yeah, less than one percent.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
All I know is you can't comprehend it unless you
lived it. Nine a m. I was awaken. My windows
are open and I'm listening and I hear it's not
non stop, And at first I don't know what it was.
And then I asked a couple of people like, man, yeah,
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it's four for July. Like, well, you may is four
for July? You wait till the night. You wait till
there's no point. It's like it's like, hey, I'm gonna
go lay out by the pool. It's ten o'clock at night.
You wait till dust point. You barbecue during today, you
set off a couple of sparklers, you throw the little
white dips.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That pop hop pop pop? Like what why is it
going all day long?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Who does that? How is this possible that I can.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Hear fireworks going off non stop from nine am until
I went to bid at one am.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
In the morning.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
How many NFL players do you think woke up this
morning and are like, thank god a year. But Alo
everybody can't say they need to get to camp down.
I need to get away from these people. I gotta
get the camp. I mean, JPP was on the rundown,
you know, try and get back in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I mean, talk about a tailor to take caution of
of sorts.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
By the way, Jason Pierre Paul under the radar. Great career, yes, dude,
I was looking at over the weekend. Ninety four and
a half career sacks. Yes, he's talked to it. He
wants to get back in the league. It's probably not
gonna happen at this point, but I mean, that would
be cool for him to get back and break a
hundred sacks. But that would be pretty cool. All you
think about with him is the fireworks incident. Well, I mean,
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because that's just how society.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Almost got a hundred sacks.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
He will be forever remembered for blowing his hand off,
more so than having a dope career. By the way,
because people don't remember things like, oh, you had a
great career. Like people forget guys I had great careers.
They get drafted. I you forget about it. You forget
about careers. You don't forget about crazy s that Fourth
of July it's gonna come up day.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And it's been ten years every time four guy's got
almost one hundred career sacks. He's got two super Bowl rings,
and uh, LeVar made a comment, you know, which I
thought was insulting before the show when I was I
was pointing out, I was like, hey, man, you know
Jpp's got two super Bowl rings. So I was like, yeah,
where he's gonna put up. I thought I was out
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of line, which I thought was disrespectful because.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I did not say that. But you look at his career.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You look at his career and you go, man, that
guy had a great career and did a lot of
that after the injury, and all anybody talks about is
that moment on fourth of July, and every single year
he's going to be reminded of it. The guy came
back and remember when he came back and played with
a cast on and still you know, continued his career.
So yeah, it's it's uh, this was a crazy weekend.
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Hopefully everybody, uh you know, didn't make any mistakes with
those fireworks, even though some did like they do every year.
And and now NFL players everywhere are like, all right,
vacation's over. Training camps right around the corner. It's grind time.
Bar this is tis the season season, Yeah to be football, Listen,
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I'm excited for it. There's a lot going on and
there's a lot to talk about. Yeah, and that's what
the NFL gives you, you know. And I know we
shouts out to Independence Day, shots out to the fourth
of July. But now that we've gotten those things out
of the way, now those are the topics of conversations
we can touch on and also should point this out.
Our hearts are with everyone affected by the Texas flooding.
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If you saw that over the weekend, devastating, it's tragic,
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Those family could use it right now because just devastating
over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
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Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, it's a true story.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Appropriate music is a perfect song for it. It is
the Herd Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas
Knox in for Colin.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
By the way, when LeVar and I we you can
normally hear.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Us weekday morning, six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific,
alongside Brady Quinn when it's just Lebar and I. Though
we call the show Black and Drack because I'm pale,
I look like Dracula, and Lebar he's not.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
He's dark.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
He's black, and I'm strong alone and I'm on get
fricked and on baby got back. Wait wait, wait, so
wrong song. So we'll be in for Colin today and tomorrow.
By the way, coming up in a little over twenty
minutes from now, we are going to have another edition
of The Herdline News starring the great Ryan Music. So
that'll be yours here again a little over twenty minutes
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from now. Justin Fields is the starting quarterback for the
New York Jets. His teammate Andre Cisco spoke about what
the expectations are from Justin Fields heading into this season
and he seems very optimistic.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Getting to know him a foks as a teammate has
been really really special. I'm really glad that I get
this opportunity to get behind him and just support him.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
As you know, he takes on that road.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
As you know, we already know what quarterback means the NFL,
and so I'm excited for him to just prove those
who are down wrong and those who are supporting right,
because I think he's gonna have a huge year.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Got it.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Tell me if you've heard this before, Jets get a quarterback,
uh huh, and he's going to be I hope he's
going to be the one different. This is this time,
no no, but this time for real, Like this is the.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
One that's going to be different. Like this one here.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
This is like when I count my son down when
I'm trying to get him to do something. I was like, hey,
I'm giving you to the count of five and then
I'll get to four and give them three.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Oh yeah, But you got to know what the consequence
is before you do to count down, because if you
don't have a consequence, then it will never work.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
The problem is I'm like the Jets because I'll get
to four and then I go four and a quarter,
Oh no, four and a half. Oh no, you know,
because you know it's going to go bad. It's like,
you know what's going wrong. It's like the Jets do
is for their quarterbacks. They're like, hey, you know what,
he's the guy this time, right, And then it's like
week eleven and they've won three games, like yeah, but no, no, no,
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this week, everything's going to change, and it just gets
pushed down the road and down the road and down
the road. And I hope it works for Justin Fields.
A lot of people think maybe you should have gotten
more of an opportunity In Chicago, A lot of people,
including people in Pitts, think that he should have gotten
more of an opportunity, especially later in the year when
Russell was starting to struggle a little bit. But we've
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seen this so many times before, and I think that's
what makes the Week one matchup so interesting is all
the parallels. Because Justin Field said no to the Steelers
to join the Jets, the Jets said no to Aaron
Rodgers and signed Justin Fields, and now Rogers is with
the Steelers and they're going to meet up in the
first game of the season. Yeah, it's just like all
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the parallels make that matchup even more interesting as we
get closer.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know Tanner and Strange, right, Strand he's the new coordinator.
He was the passing game coordinator for the Detroit Lions.
They had some really really good success with that scheme
and what they've had. This is a team, this Jets
team has good bones personnel wise. You look at the offense,
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they have players everywhere. You look at the defense, they
have players everywhere. There really is no real reasoning outside
of how horrible the dysfunction is within the up top
regions of the franchise as to why this team should
be in the position they're in right now, which is
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a not very respectable, not very successful, not a winning organization.
So when you look at this scenario for Justin Fields,
I say, okay, they bring in a qualified guy that
had success in Detroit with Aaron Glenn on the defense
side of the ball. So Aaron brings him over to
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New York for Justin Fields. For the other guys that
are part of this organization at this point, it's going
to take a collective belief, starting with Woody Johnson and
allowing for the culture to be developed the way that
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Aaron Glenn understands a culture needs to be developed to
be able to win and to be competitive. Ken Woody
Johnson change the spots on his coat from what they
have been. The answer is unequivocally no, it's not going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
But what you can do, what you can do.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
For the sake of your team, for the sake of
your franchise, for the sake of the fans, for the
sake of your players. You can stop being a presence
that creates the dysfunction, remove yourself from the equation. Allow
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the people to do the job that you delegated, that
you hired to do the jobs.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Allow Aaron Glenn to develop the.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Culture as a head coach as that applies to the
elements and the spaces it applies for this team. The
team has a good enough personnel where you can have
success with Justin Fields as your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's not a qualifier. This is a top.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Draft pick not too long ago that a lot of
people were hanging their hopes and dreams on that he
could be the quarterback of the future for another team
that has done the same exact things in terms of
what they've said about quarterbacks in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
So to me, the fact that it didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Work out in Pittsburgh for Justin Fields, I think that's
more so a wash scenario. I do not look at
it as why would you think Justin Fields is going
to have success in New York when he didn't even
have success in Pittsburgh. I'm not going to draw that conclusion, Jonas.
I am going to look at it from the perspective
of does he have a fair opportunity to have success
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in New York?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I don't know because I don't know what the dynamic
is between ownership and culture of.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
The new head coach. If the if the new.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Head coach has an opportunity to build the culture in
an organic, strong intentional way, yes, all of them have
an opportunity to have success and have it right away
with the amount of talent that they have. But the
big if here is if ownership and culture remains the
same and it continues to you know, keep keep them in,
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you know, like bumpers and and and playing playing uh bowling. Right,
if you have the bumpers up and you're you're you're
really restricting them and what it is they're able to do.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't think there will be enough growth.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I don't think there will be enough positivity and structure
for it to turn into the culture uh that Aaron
Glenn is probably hoping that he's able to do.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
By the way, sidebar on that if you're an adult.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
In fact, I'll just put it this way, anybody over
the age of nine, if you use bumpers when you bowl,
you should be arrested immediately. And I'm talking at least
a month behind, like like hard time.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You can't really if you're a real bowler. There's no
possible way you can bowl legitimately. If you're a real
bowler and you have you can't be taken serious.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
No, you can't be taken serious. Yeah, you just can't
spin it.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
You can't spin it the way that unless you're spinning
it directly down the center triangle or maybe the second
triangle out you can get it, but it's not going
to be as good an angle if you're going to
spin that, bad boy, and it's going to go out
to that like third fourth triangle on on the you
know what is it on the on the rumway or
whatever you call it, the lanes, the lanes. Yeah, that's
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that's you can't have that because you're going to hit
the bumper. Yeah, I would agree with you, right, I'm
just just making.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Sure so the Jets side of this, like I, I
am skeptical that Justin Fields has this success, and you know,
like Andre Cisco says, well, we're going to see him.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You know, I can't wait till he's gonna prove a
lot of people wrong.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
All right, Well, I'm skeptical of it, as you laid out,
because of what's going on around him. Because the Jets
have had a lot of talent over the years. Joe
Douglas drafted, Well, they've had a lot of talent there.
And I'm always a believer of Listen, it's not about
the furniture. It's about the foundation, all right. If you've
got really nice furniture in the home, but the foundation
is cracking, sooner or later, that stuff's getting getting sucked
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down into a sinkhole somewhere. It's just gonna happen. And
I look at it and I go, yeah, he's got
all the talents. There's talent there, there's pieces there. There's
a reason why Rogers was open to going there because
he saw that man this is a place where we
could win. They've drafted well and the whole thing was
a disaster. But let's just say hypothetical, Justin Fields thrives
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in New York. That's a really bad look for a
Aaron Rodgers and a really bad look for Mike Tomlin
because Mike Tomnn reportedly was the guy who said no, no, no,
we're going to stick with Russ the entire way. There
were people there, like Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh,
who wanted Justin Fields to take over. There was a
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lot of people there who didn't want Justin Fields to
lose the job at all. And if all of a
sudden he decides because the Jets get because the Steelers
gave him a low ball offer reportedly to go to
the Jets, and the guy that was in the building
that people were telling Mike Tomlin should be the starter,
goes to the Jets of all places, and thrives. That's
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a really bad look for Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers,
which is another subplot to this whole matchup and this
whole situation.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
As a season planer, what I'll say is he's never
come close to breaking three thousand yards passing the ball.
He did not show the ability to push the ball
downfield at a level that moved people to have the
belief that he's the long term answer. That's just the
reality of what took place last year. Now, if that
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had something to do with the play calling or that
has something to do outside of him, I don't know,
but he what worked against him was when Russ got in,
he was pushing the ball downfield and they were having
success when he got in, and that early success. Whoever
made the decision, it made the decision, which Mike Tomlin
(27:23):
put himself out in front of it and said it
was his decision. It made him look like he made
a really good decision. Now what that looked like or
what it looks like moving forward from what it looked
like moving forward with Russ. They did not bring Russ back.
So Russ did not do a great enough job where
Mike Tomlin putting himself out front of him saying Russ
is our guy, that did not equate to him coming
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back and being part of the Pittsburgh Steelers for this
next upcoming season. Now, when I look at Justin Fields,
I think it's a tremendous risk to think that he's
going to go from a sub he gets to mid
two thousands, the highest he's ever gotten in passing yards,
it's twenty five hundred yards in passing the ball. That's
not very impressive at all. Damn is that impressive? Is
(28:11):
that impressive? It's not, you know, I mean, I mean, guys,
guys challenge Saquan almost ran for how many yards? The
bottom line here is that I don't think you're going
to get to the next level of competition with a
quarterback that can't break three thousand yards plus throwing the
ball during the course of a season. I don't think
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you can call somebody an elite passer that can be
a franchise guy for you if they can't break and
have those types of seasons where they produce more than
seventeen touchdowns in a season.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
It's just not to me.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
It's a it's a stretch, and it's a long shot
to think that at this point you're actually going to
be able to see justin fields, be this quarterback that
we've never seen at the pro level.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yeah, it's all about him using his legs like that's
always been his what separates him from everybody else. When
he had those huge, big plays in Chicago, it was
all about him using his legs. When you know, there
was a game his final year in Chicago where everyone said, man,
this is why they got to keep Justin Fields and
trade the number one pick because he had one game
(29:22):
late in the year against Atlanta and he was lights
out unbelievable. But then the next week they finished the
season at Green Bay and it was the same sort
of Justin Fields that you've seen. And when you bring
up the which which makes me think about this as
well too, when you because there's almost like a like
a triangular quarterback storyline to watch, and it's how does
(29:46):
Justin Fields do?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
How does Aaron Rodgers do? How does Russell Wilson do?
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Because they're all kind of connected in a weird way
to where Rogers had conversation with Brian day Ball. They have,
you know, a great amount of respect for each other.
Russell Wilson's now with the Giants, Justin Field's and the Jets,
Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers I don't even recall, and
we talked about this at the time. Did Pittsburgh even
try and make an offer or an effort to keep
(30:14):
Russell Wilson. I know they did. Justin Field I didn't
hear that. I don't think they even tried.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I did not hear that.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Which, like you look at those three quarterbacks, you go, well,
Justin Fields hasn't really proven it. You know, Rogers, you know,
seems like the end is near. Russ really wants to
keep playing and really and Pittsburgh didn't even try and
keep Russell Wilson, Like there wasn't even a discussion about
it. It was like, oh, cool, he wants to come back here.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
He doesn't get along with the offensive coordinator. So all
three of those teams are kind of all connected in
this weird way. And look, like I said, I hope
it works out for Justin Fields. I'd like to see
him get an opportunity. It'd be nice if the New
York Jets had some stability and we're back to their
winning ways like they were when Rex Ryan was there.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I'm just skeptical, man.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
And I also think, could you imagine being a Jets
fan knowing deep down in your soul, when you talk
to people close to you, knowing I'm never going to
see my favorite team win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
What's that feeling like? Well, especially when your tea. Oh
they don't dang. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I don't want to make this about the Steelers either,
but I mean, if you think about it, there's a consistency.
Kenny Pickett's best year in Pittsburgh was in twenty twenty two,
twenty four hundred yards, all right, Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson
had no more than two thousand. Oh, Justin Fields didn't
(31:48):
break two thousand in Pittsburgh, but Russell Wilson had what
I believe to be twenty five hundred as well. So
nobody is breaking Nobody is breaking the bank on passing
yards and Pittsburgh, which begs for the question of what
(32:09):
is what is the idea of what you had twenty
four hundred to two and eighty two yards for Russell
Wilson last year, last season. Nobody's getting a ton of
yards passing the ball from Pickett to Justin Fields to
Russell Wilson. Yeah, they haven't.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Pittsburgh hasn't had an answer at quarterbacks since probably second
to last year of Big Ben because I think the
last year it was a little rough. They tried to
draft Kenny Pickett and make that work. That didn't work
at all. That that fell apart and he ended up elsewhere.
And then they bring in Russell Wilson and Justin Fields
because it was on the cheap. Justin Fields, they were
(32:52):
winning games. But Russell Wilson came back from the injury
that he was that he was dealing with. I believe
it was a calf issue and trained camp and then
he came back and Yeah, he did give them a
threat to throw deep. He gave them something down the field,
but it just they haven't had an answer there. In
six seven years, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, you
(33:15):
have had three quarterbacks play for your team, and now
going into twenty five, you.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Will have four.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah to me again, Now, if I'm the New York Jets,
I'm saying I Am going to have a measured feeling
of confidence towards Justin Fields. But at least he's younger,
he still has an athletic ability about him, and the
possibilities of his trajectory still going up. Trending up is
(33:46):
a possibility because I don't feel like guys are being
utilized the right way in the Steelers' offensive system. That
would be what I'm thinking. If I'm the New York Giants,
and that's what I'm thinking. If I'm the New York Jets,
and that's what I'm thinking. If I'm the Cleveland Browns,
(34:06):
And to me, now we get an opportunity to have
comps in terms of what is Russell Wilson going to
do this year? What is Kenny Pickett going to do
this year? What is Justin Phil's going to do this year?
And all of those things will relate back in a
way to what's taking place in Pittsburgh and what Aaron
Rodgers is doing in Pittsburgh and how they're coaching things
(34:29):
in Pittsburgh. I'm curious, ken Aaron Rodgers break three thousand
yards throwing the ball in Pittsburgh this year? Yeah, okay,
that should.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You're saying, yay, he should say he stays healthy. I
think he will.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Well, let's see it is the last three quarterbacks there have.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Not done it. Yeah, well, and they're not Aaron Rodgers.
I get that.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
But the last three quarterbacks in Russell Wilson isn't a
bad name. He's got the same amount of Super Bowls
as him.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I mean, listen, Mason Rudolph might have done it if
he didn't get assaulted by Miles Garrett. You never know
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Speaker 2 (35:52):
Ryan Music. Yeah, okay, yeah, let's get it going. Let's
get it going, all right.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I hope everyone had a wonderful fourth July weekend on
a much better weekend than the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Tough series against the Astros, Greg.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Dewey trying to fest pomp over here.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Tough series against the Astros getting swept at home, including
an eighteen to one loss, the worst home loss in
franchise history, getting outscored twenty nine to six over the
entire series, and despite both teams having won World Series
title since that infamous clash they had back in twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Seventeen, bad blood remains.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Jose Altuve of the Astros was booed throughout the entire weekend,
and let's take a listen here to oral Herscheizer and
what he had to say on sportsnet LA.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It hard to deep.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Center field has on the round on tournay wins, this
one wedge itself in the bottom of the wall and
Cam Smith flying into second, apering there with another extra
base sit for the Astros, double homer double, so looking
third against Kasparius.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I don't want a looking old room.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
In some ways, they're swinging at these breaking balls like
they know what it's coming. These bad pitch it's really
a very good pitch. Blow it away probably would have
ended up by the ankles if it would have made
it past the back. It's the oldest thing that you analyze.
You analyze your grip, your your delivery, your glove position
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on different pitches.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I might get you.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
They had no answers. It was the most worst loss
by the Dodgers in the history of the stadium. So
still it's still making hints to those uh sign stealing allegations.
I was there yesterday too, guys. Oh yeah, oh man,
clean sweep, oh man, you know left.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I had.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I had guys next to me going Cheetah was like, yeah,
I gotta trush.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Can you can bang?
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Then?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And then he hits a home run.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
By the way, Greg Towey, the diehard Astros fan, said
he wanted to be referred to as jose Al toohey
moving forward, which you know what, you're.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
A heartless bastard. I have to damn what huh what?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
What?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Who said that?
Speaker 7 (38:08):
It is?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
By the way, you know what's great about this rivalry.
It's never going to go anywhere, and they don't even
play that often. But because of what happened in twenty
seventeen and the sign stealing and the trash cans and everything,
that came along with it. Dodger fans will never let
it go and Astros fans when something like this happens,
even after they won like both teams of one World Series,
since like you would figure whatever, listen, it was in
(38:32):
the past, it's never going.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
To be in the past. No, there's always going to
be real.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
I mean, as soon as oral said that, everyone's like,
oh my, here we go again, right, And he was
making a very innocuous comment about maybe ei're tipping their pitches. Yeah,
he didn't say they were cheating.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, right, everybody saying jumps to like, yeah, the cheating
was saying not wanting to open the world right, right,
that was.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Trying to set the stage.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I'm not a groupie or anything, but I'm just saying,
I mean, if you say it before you say your point,
you're saying that's what y'all want, and you wanted to open.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
That only guys that are still there m kohlers too, right, Yeah,
And so I look at it, I go, all right, man,
it's the nostalgia.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I mean, and it's early in the season, right, Like
you're not far enough in the season where things really
matter too much, right, So finding something that that gets
people going. I mean, that's why not take advantage.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
The only thing I can think of, yes this weekend
watching this areas was Dodger fans just need to quit
booing him because the more they blew him, the better
he does.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, just reverse psychologist.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
That's the worst when you get an athlete that's good
with booze at least if you're the booer.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Do you think do you think, all right, so Max months,
he's injured, all right, and he's got he's dealing with
this sprain, knee or whatever he's got going on, he's
going to be out for weeks. Do you think the Dodgers,
if the price was the price is right, would they
ever trade for Bregman. I don't think they would. I
don't think they would ever bring him in ever, because
he's got the staying at the Astros with him.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
There's been a lot of talk about like the gout
the former Astros like Bregman, Tucker, you know, the Verlanders, like.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
He wasn't even on the team though he wasn't, but
he was still there.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
If you're there at that during the run, you're gonna
be associated the farms, right, Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Is that deep?
Speaker 4 (40:19):
If you were there, You're going to be associated with
did you drive by Houston at all?
Speaker 10 (40:24):
Like?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Did you did you take a connector flight out of Houston?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You know, you can't be in part. You can't be
a part of this organ Those guys got booed. They
got booed when they were in La or anywhere else,
and they just.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
I wonder if the price was right and Bregman was available,
would they make a move for that?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
And I just don't think they would. I don't think
they would either.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Yeah, I don't think there's any chance of that happening.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
And we can wrap up with this real quick.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
US men's national team coming up short in the Gold
Cup final against Mexico two one controversial note call in
the sixty.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Six minute controversial they did a no call of video.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Sister review also upheld the fact that there was no
handball in the box.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Wait, what if they would have switched that one out?
What if the US would have won on a technicality
like that in Mexico plus one.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Fifty From what I hear, that's from what I hear.
That's what somebody. Yeah, somebody told me.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
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Monday after a why held Fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Week What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
A wild pre a while, a wild pre show meeting
of the mines and I mean we could have did
a three hour show on the industry, but you know,
behind the scenes storylines, I mean they're really doozy. Yeah,
definitely it's the Celsius. I blame Celsius. I love y'all's
(01:22):
drink though it is.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Uh, it's been a how was the fourth of July weekend? Huh?
Did you because here's the price. It's on a weekend.
It started on a friday, so you just gave people
an excuse to get butchered for two days.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
After you heard the wildest story. So we got a
rooftop lounge on my house. Right, So we're going upstairs. Everything,
well it must not be. We were up there, we're
hanging out, and the way it's set up, you can't
see us up there.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So if something's.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Going on up there, you can maybe hear it possibly,
or if you do something like say we were to
shoot fireworks off or something like that, you might have
an idea that, Okay, they can get up on the
roof whatever. Right, But it's a balcony, it's a it's
a rooftop lone. So we go up there and we
have one of those. We have a safe portable fire pit.
(02:14):
Fire pit gets let lit up. But here's what, here's
the problem. The girls go up to do it and
they put five door of flames on there. Five so
you got this big ass flame and the flame was
giving off black smoke. Right, So we're sitting up there,
we're listening to music, we're having a good time. We're
(02:36):
looking we can see all of the fireworks from the
piers in the Beach City, South Bay all the way
out to wherever Orange County. You could just see all
of the fireworks going off. So we're watching the fireworks
and I'm like, man, these these firemen are going the
police are going to have a busy night because you
could see the random fire works going up right, which,
(02:57):
by the way, fireworks in la is really a thing.
Bro Oh my god. I heard fireworks from nine a m.
Literally non stop until I went to sleep at like
two am in the morning.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah, white people light fireworks off during the day. I
mean it was the entire day.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
All you heard was oh the whole day.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Anyway, back to my point, so the fire's going up,
and I'm like, man, firemen, cops, they're gonna have to
run around because you know, you make these wildfires, this,
that and the other, and we're not even thinking about
and that's sure enough. You see a fire engine come out,
fire engine comes out out, a die boom, boom boom.
I'm like, oh, man, you hear some fireworks going off
in our area. So it's like the firemen come up
(03:45):
in our area and it's like they turned the lights off,
but they're coming up in the area. The next thing
you know, they get up and they're like one street
away from us. I was like, man, they're right here.
Something going on right then I looked at our fire pit.
I was like, this fire high. They drive past the street,
so I'm thinking they're about to go past the street.
(04:05):
They turned the lights on, turn the lights on, turned
down our street.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I was like, yep, they coming here.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I had to go down to the front, grab grab
and they were really really cool. I'm big time, you know,
support first responders. I appreciate Redondo Beach Fire Department. Uh,
really really cool people. So I walk them in. We
walk up, they look at it. They're like, man, everything's cool.
He's like, but your neighbors are freaking out. They are
freaking out. I go look over the ads and I
(04:32):
see a whole crowd of people in two three yards
looking up. Look it up out of our house. They
thought that bad boy was burning down. So anyways, I
put we put it out. But that was that was
an eventful deal. Now, in your mind, we live in
a day and age with with cell phones that can record. Now,
(04:53):
I didn't want to record it because anything shady might
have happened, like oh, get it on it. This is
on camera, Da da da. But it would have been
interesting thing to see a camera shot of the fire
engine pulling down our street, then the fire department coming
into the crib, then us having a cool conversation up
on the rooftop.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And then them leaving.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That would have been cool because that's never happened to
me before ever. So there you go. Emergency crew, first
responders came to make sure the house wasn't burning down.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You know what blows my mind the number of people
that decide, knowing all the warning signs, knowing all the dangers,
seeing all the injuries, seeing all that, and still being like,
you got it this year, I got it. Don't warn
Let's let's fire off four or five mortar bombs within
close proximity to somebody's house, children.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
In cars and just see what happens. We weren't doing that,
by the way, but in La everybody was, Yeah they were.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean from nine am, literally from nine am to
one am.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It was non It.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Is not an over exaggeration to say it was non stop.
You could hear the fireworks going off NonStop from nine
to one am.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
So growing up in southern California and two you might
remember this, But it used to be if you wanted
to get fireworks you had to go to a place
called Fillmore. Did you have to go somewhere out in
the moone you gotta go to film It's it can
drive all the way inland to this small town of Fillmore.
By the way, i'l pescador, a great Mexican spot out there.
(06:31):
But that was the place if you if somebody told you, hey,
I'm going to Fillmore, it's like, oh, hey, bring me
back a Roman candle, like a box.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Of Piccolo Pete's.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Like it was like this undercover, under the radar spot
that you would go to get fireworks.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Now now it seems like you can get them anywhere.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Like somebody's got like a trunk, then they're selling fireworks
out of them. Like there's some rock band trying to
make it in the business selling t shirts out of
the back of their car.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Get fireworks, rocket launchers, grenade launchers.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't understand, oozies.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
It's just it used to be really hard to get
a hold of these things, and nowadays you can do.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Hey, right there, there you go some more. There's some
fireworks right there.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Like I was like, over the weekend, I was talking
Isaac Lohancrawn, who's an anchor here at Fox Sports Radio,
and Isaac was telling me.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
He say, oh, yeah, we have a fireworks alley. I
was like, what's that.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
He goes, oh yeah, it's an alley near our place
and people light off fireworks there. And he sent me
a video. I'm like, oh, you mean all this illegal
activity on video? You mean all that?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Sheriff came by and said, hey, you guys are good.
Enjoy your Fourth of July. I won't tell you what.
Wait what that's just all of a sudden allowed. But
apparently that's what Fourth is July turned into. I will
say some of the dopest fireworks shows. One is in
State College, the one they do i Beaver Stadium. It's
(07:58):
it's like connected and then sync with like music. It's
pretty dope.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Man, Like, if you're able to go to a fireworks show,
that's like really a show, like even the one at
Disney they do every night. Yeah, oh that's what the
lasers and fireworks and on a crazy man, when you
could do it when somebody's.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Doing it right.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I've never got any type of a rush or any
type of a crazy feeling with with fireworks. I just
rather watch them. It's never been a thing where I'm like,
I gotta like this bad, let's do it. Like that's
just never been my thing. I don't know. I mean,
(08:40):
I don't know why that is, but but some people
really really get off on letting off on those those fireworks.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Man, they love seeing they lighten the fuse. It's like, dude,
augusta win. That thing tilts over and points in the
direction of either other fireworks or somebody, and we got
a profit them. Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I was just seeing it all on social media where
the joints go in a different direction and went to
the garage blue start blowing the garage up, hit the
card and blew the car up, hitting kids like hit
hit family members like why you doing.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Like I always tell this story, but I remember reading
about this. There was some dude in Maine. Him and
his buddy were out in the field somewhere like I
will be safe. You know, there's no uh no property
within within the distance, so we've got some and the
guy thought it would be a good idea to take
a mortar bomb put it on his head and then
light it. What here's how the ending of that story went.
(09:38):
H he wasn't going to lids anytime soon. I'll put
it that way.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
There was a couple of dudes that was lighting them
and then squatting on top of them, and then it
took off like and the and the and the catch
the captions be off the chain like like in my stomach,
like get in my belly, and you know what they
were talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The man's jewels was in his belly by the time.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It's just it's the dumbest thing that people do to
try to go viral sometimes is during the fourth of
July fourth of July weekends that they it's crazy what
people do with these fireworks.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, it's it's I don't I don't understand it. I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
And I would also say this, if you want to
spoil yourselves, because Collins in Chicago and Ryan Music will
be out there, let me just little recommendation. You go
to Navy Peer. There's a restaurant at Navy Peer right
up on top and during the summertime they light off
fireworks two days a week. It's awesome and the best
part is professionals are doing it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Go figure, it's not.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
How many professionals do you think do the fireworks during
the course of a fourth of July day?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Less than one percent? Now, yeah, less than one percent.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
All I know is you can't comprehend it unless you
lived it. Nine a m. I was awaken. My windows
are open and I'm listening and I hear it's not
non stop, And at first I don't know what it was.
And then I asked a couple of people like, man, yeah,
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it's four for July. Like, well, you may is four
for July? You wait till the night. You wait till
there's no point. It's like it's like, hey, I'm gonna
go lay out by the pool. It's ten o'clock at night.
You wait till dust point. You barbecue during today, you
set off a couple of sparklers, you throw the little
white dips.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That pop hop pop pop? Like what why is it
going all day long?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Who does that? How is this possible that I can.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Hear fireworks going off non stop from nine am until
I went to bid at one am.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
In the morning.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
How many NFL players do you think woke up this
morning and are like, thank god a year. But Alo
everybody can't say they need to get to camp down.
I need to get away from these people. I gotta
get the camp. I mean, JPP was on the rundown,
you know, try and get back in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I mean, talk about a tailor to take caution of
of sorts.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
By the way, Jason Pierre Paul under the radar. Great career, yes, dude,
I was looking at over the weekend. Ninety four and
a half career sacks. Yes, he's talked to it. He
wants to get back in the league. It's probably not
gonna happen at this point, but I mean, that would
be cool for him to get back and break a
hundred sacks. But that would be pretty cool. All you
think about with him is the fireworks incident. Well, I mean,
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because that's just how society.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Almost got a hundred sacks.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
He will be forever remembered for blowing his hand off,
more so than having a dope career. By the way,
because people don't remember things like, oh, you had a
great career. Like people forget guys I had great careers.
They get drafted. I you forget about it. You forget
about careers. You don't forget about crazy s that Fourth
of July it's gonna come up day.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And it's been ten years every time four guy's got
almost one hundred career sacks. He's got two super Bowl rings,
and uh, LeVar made a comment, you know, which I
thought was insulting before the show when I was I
was pointing out, I was like, hey, man, you know
Jpp's got two super Bowl rings. So I was like, yeah,
where he's gonna put up. I thought I was out
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of line, which I thought was disrespectful because.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I did not say that. But you look at his career.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You look at his career and you go, man, that
guy had a great career and did a lot of
that after the injury, and all anybody talks about is
that moment on fourth of July, and every single year
he's going to be reminded of it. The guy came
back and remember when he came back and played with
a cast on and still you know, continued his career.
So yeah, it's it's uh, this was a crazy weekend.
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Hopefully everybody, uh you know, didn't make any mistakes with
those fireworks, even though some did like they do every year.
And and now NFL players everywhere are like, all right,
vacation's over. Training camps right around the corner. It's grind time.
Bar this is tis the season season, Yeah to be football, Listen,
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I'm excited for it. There's a lot going on and
there's a lot to talk about. Yeah, and that's what
the NFL gives you, you know. And I know we
shouts out to Independence Day, shots out to the fourth
of July. But now that we've gotten those things out
of the way, now those are the topics of conversations
we can touch on and also should point this out.
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Speaker 2 (15:12):
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Speaker 5 (15:14):
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Speaker 2 (15:23):
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Speaker 2 (16:22):
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Speaker 5 (16:25):
Appropriate music is a perfect song for it. It is
the Herd Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas
Knox in for Colin.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
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Speaker 5 (16:39):
Us weekday morning, six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific,
alongside Brady Quinn when it's just Lebar and I. Though
we call the show Black and Drack because I'm pale,
I look like Dracula, and Lebar he's not.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
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Speaker 5 (16:55):
He's black, and I'm strong alone and I'm on get
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wrong song. So we'll be in for Colin today and tomorrow.
By the way, coming up in a little over twenty
minutes from now, we are going to have another edition
of The Herdline News starring the great Ryan Music. So
that'll be yours here again a little over twenty minutes
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from now. Justin Fields is the starting quarterback for the
New York Jets. His teammate Andre Cisco spoke about what
the expectations are from Justin Fields heading into this season
and he seems very optimistic.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Getting to know him a foks as a teammate has
been really really special. I'm really glad that I get
this opportunity to get behind him and just support him.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
As you know, he takes on that road.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
As you know, we already know what quarterback means the NFL,
and so I'm excited for him to just prove those
who are down wrong and those who are supporting right,
because I think he's gonna have a huge year.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Got it.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Tell me if you've heard this before, Jets get a quarterback,
uh huh, and he's going to be I hope he's
going to be the one different. This is this time,
no no, but this time for real, Like this is the.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
One that's going to be different. Like this one here.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
This is like when I count my son down when
I'm trying to get him to do something. I was like, hey,
I'm giving you to the count of five and then
I'll get to four and give them three.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Oh yeah, But you got to know what the consequence
is before you do to count down, because if you
don't have a consequence, then it will never work.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
The problem is I'm like the Jets because I'll get
to four and then I go four and a quarter,
Oh no, four and a half. Oh no, you know,
because you know it's going to go bad. It's like,
you know what's going wrong. It's like the Jets do
is for their quarterbacks. They're like, hey, you know what,
he's the guy this time, right, And then it's like
week eleven and they've won three games, like yeah, but no, no, no,
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this week, everything's going to change, and it just gets
pushed down the road and down the road and down
the road. And I hope it works for Justin Fields.
A lot of people think maybe you should have gotten
more of an opportunity In Chicago, A lot of people,
including people in Pitts, think that he should have gotten
more of an opportunity, especially later in the year when
Russell was starting to struggle a little bit. But we've
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seen this so many times before, and I think that's
what makes the Week one matchup so interesting is all
the parallels. Because Justin Field said no to the Steelers
to join the Jets, the Jets said no to Aaron
Rodgers and signed Justin Fields, and now Rogers is with
the Steelers and they're going to meet up in the
first game of the season. Yeah, it's just like all
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the parallels make that matchup even more interesting as we
get closer.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know Tanner and Strange, right, Strand he's the new coordinator.
He was the passing game coordinator for the Detroit Lions.
They had some really really good success with that scheme
and what they've had. This is a team, this Jets
team has good bones personnel wise. You look at the offense,
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they have players everywhere. You look at the defense, they
have players everywhere. There really is no real reasoning outside
of how horrible the dysfunction is within the up top
regions of the franchise as to why this team should
be in the position they're in right now, which is
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a not very respectable, not very successful, not a winning organization.
So when you look at this scenario for Justin Fields,
I say, okay, they bring in a qualified guy that
had success in Detroit with Aaron Glenn on the defense
side of the ball. So Aaron brings him over to
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New York for Justin Fields. For the other guys that
are part of this organization at this point, it's going
to take a collective belief, starting with Woody Johnson and
allowing for the culture to be developed the way that
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Aaron Glenn understands a culture needs to be developed to
be able to win and to be competitive. Ken Woody
Johnson change the spots on his coat from what they
have been. The answer is unequivocally no, it's not going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
But what you can do, what you can do.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
For the sake of your team, for the sake of
your franchise, for the sake of the fans, for the
sake of your players. You can stop being a presence
that creates the dysfunction, remove yourself from the equation. Allow
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the people to do the job that you delegated, that
you hired to do the jobs.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Allow Aaron Glenn to develop the.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Culture as a head coach as that applies to the
elements and the spaces it applies for this team. The
team has a good enough personnel where you can have
success with Justin Fields as your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's not a qualifier. This is a top.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Draft pick not too long ago that a lot of
people were hanging their hopes and dreams on that he
could be the quarterback of the future for another team
that has done the same exact things in terms of
what they've said about quarterbacks in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
So to me, the fact that it didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Work out in Pittsburgh for Justin Fields, I think that's
more so a wash scenario. I do not look at
it as why would you think Justin Fields is going
to have success in New York when he didn't even
have success in Pittsburgh. I'm not going to draw that conclusion, Jonas.
I am going to look at it from the perspective
of does he have a fair opportunity to have success
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in New York?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I don't know because I don't know what the dynamic
is between ownership and culture of.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
The new head coach. If the if the new.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Head coach has an opportunity to build the culture in
an organic, strong intentional way, yes, all of them have
an opportunity to have success and have it right away
with the amount of talent that they have. But the
big if here is if ownership and culture remains the
same and it continues to you know, keep keep them in,
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you know, like bumpers and and and playing playing uh bowling. Right,
if you have the bumpers up and you're you're you're
really restricting them and what it is they're able to do.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't think there will be enough growth.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I don't think there will be enough positivity and structure
for it to turn into the culture uh that Aaron
Glenn is probably hoping that he's able to do.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
By the way, sidebar on that if you're an adult.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
In fact, I'll just put it this way, anybody over
the age of nine, if you use bumpers when you bowl,
you should be arrested immediately. And I'm talking at least
a month behind, like like hard time.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You can't really if you're a real bowler. There's no
possible way you can bowl legitimately. If you're a real
bowler and you have you can't be taken serious.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
No, you can't be taken serious. Yeah, you just can't
spin it.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
You can't spin it the way that unless you're spinning
it directly down the center triangle or maybe the second
triangle out you can get it, but it's not going
to be as good an angle if you're going to
spin that, bad boy, and it's going to go out
to that like third fourth triangle on on the you
know what is it on the on the rumway or
whatever you call it, the lanes, the lanes. Yeah, that's
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that's you can't have that because you're going to hit
the bumper. Yeah, I would agree with you, right, I'm
just just making.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Sure so the Jets side of this, like I, I
am skeptical that Justin Fields has this success, and you know,
like Andre Cisco says, well, we're going to see him.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You know, I can't wait till he's gonna prove a
lot of people wrong.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
All right, Well, I'm skeptical of it, as you laid out,
because of what's going on around him. Because the Jets
have had a lot of talent over the years. Joe
Douglas drafted, Well, they've had a lot of talent there.
And I'm always a believer of Listen, it's not about
the furniture. It's about the foundation, all right. If you've
got really nice furniture in the home, but the foundation
is cracking, sooner or later, that stuff's getting getting sucked
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down into a sinkhole somewhere. It's just gonna happen. And
I look at it and I go, yeah, he's got
all the talents. There's talent there, there's pieces there. There's
a reason why Rogers was open to going there because
he saw that man this is a place where we
could win. They've drafted well and the whole thing was
a disaster. But let's just say hypothetical, Justin Fields thrives
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in New York. That's a really bad look for a
Aaron Rodgers and a really bad look for Mike Tomlin
because Mike Tomnn reportedly was the guy who said no, no, no,
we're going to stick with Russ the entire way. There
were people there, like Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh,
who wanted Justin Fields to take over. There was a
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lot of people there who didn't want Justin Fields to
lose the job at all. And if all of a
sudden he decides because the Jets get because the Steelers
gave him a low ball offer reportedly to go to
the Jets, and the guy that was in the building
that people were telling Mike Tomlin should be the starter,
goes to the Jets of all places, and thrives. That's
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a really bad look for Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers,
which is another subplot to this whole matchup and this
whole situation.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
As a season planer, what I'll say is he's never
come close to breaking three thousand yards passing the ball.
He did not show the ability to push the ball
downfield at a level that moved people to have the
belief that he's the long term answer. That's just the
reality of what took place last year. Now, if that
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had something to do with the play calling or that
has something to do outside of him, I don't know,
but he what worked against him was when Russ got in,
he was pushing the ball downfield and they were having
success when he got in, and that early success. Whoever
made the decision, it made the decision, which Mike Tomlin
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put himself out in front of it and said it
was his decision. It made him look like he made
a really good decision. Now what that looked like or
what it looks like moving forward from what it looked
like moving forward with Russ. They did not bring Russ back.
So Russ did not do a great enough job where
Mike Tomlin putting himself out front of him saying Russ
is our guy, that did not equate to him coming
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back and being part of the Pittsburgh Steelers for this
next upcoming season. Now, when I look at Justin Fields,
I think it's a tremendous risk to think that he's
going to go from a sub he gets to mid
two thousands, the highest he's ever gotten in passing yards,
it's twenty five hundred yards in passing the ball. That's
not very impressive at all. Damn is that impressive? Is
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that impressive? It's not, you know, I mean, I mean, guys,
guys challenge Saquan almost ran for how many yards? The
bottom line here is that I don't think you're going
to get to the next level of competition with a
quarterback that can't break three thousand yards plus throwing the
ball during the course of a season. I don't think
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you can call somebody an elite passer that can be
a franchise guy for you if they can't break and
have those types of seasons where they produce more than
seventeen touchdowns in a season.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
It's just not to me.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
It's a it's a stretch, and it's a long shot
to think that at this point you're actually going to
be able to see justin fields, be this quarterback that
we've never seen at the pro level.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yeah, it's all about him using his legs like that's
always been his what separates him from everybody else. When
he had those huge, big plays in Chicago, it was
all about him using his legs. When you know, there
was a game his final year in Chicago where everyone said, man,
this is why they got to keep Justin Fields and
trade the number one pick because he had one game
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late in the year against Atlanta and he was lights
out unbelievable. But then the next week they finished the
season at Green Bay and it was the same sort
of Justin Fields that you've seen. And when you bring
up the which which makes me think about this as
well too, when you because there's almost like a like
a triangular quarterback storyline to watch, and it's how does
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Justin Fields do?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
How does Aaron Rodgers do? How does Russell Wilson do?
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Because they're all kind of connected in a weird way
to where Rogers had conversation with Brian day Ball. They have,
you know, a great amount of respect for each other.
Russell Wilson's now with the Giants, Justin Field's and the Jets,
Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers I don't even recall, and
we talked about this at the time. Did Pittsburgh even
try and make an offer or an effort to keep
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Russell Wilson. I know they did. Justin Field I didn't
hear that. I don't think they even tried.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I did not hear that.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Which, like you look at those three quarterbacks, you go, well,
Justin Fields hasn't really proven it. You know, Rogers, you know,
seems like the end is near. Russ really wants to
keep playing and really and Pittsburgh didn't even try and
keep Russell Wilson, Like there wasn't even a discussion about
it. It was like, oh, cool, he wants to come back here.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
He doesn't get along with the offensive coordinator. So all
three of those teams are kind of all connected in
this weird way. And look, like I said, I hope
it works out for Justin Fields. I'd like to see
him get an opportunity. It'd be nice if the New
York Jets had some stability and we're back to their
winning ways like they were when Rex Ryan was there.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I'm just skeptical, man.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
And I also think, could you imagine being a Jets
fan knowing deep down in your soul, when you talk
to people close to you, knowing I'm never going to
see my favorite team win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
What's that feeling like? Well, especially when your tea. Oh
they don't dang. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I don't want to make this about the Steelers either,
but I mean, if you think about it, there's a consistency.
Kenny Pickett's best year in Pittsburgh was in twenty twenty two,
twenty four hundred yards, all right, Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson
had no more than two thousand. Oh, Justin Fields didn't
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break two thousand in Pittsburgh, but Russell Wilson had what
I believe to be twenty five hundred as well. So
nobody is breaking Nobody is breaking the bank on passing
yards and Pittsburgh, which begs for the question of what
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is what is the idea of what you had twenty
four hundred to two and eighty two yards for Russell
Wilson last year, last season. Nobody's getting a ton of
yards passing the ball from Pickett to Justin Fields to
Russell Wilson. Yeah, they haven't.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Pittsburgh hasn't had an answer at quarterbacks since probably second
to last year of Big Ben because I think the
last year it was a little rough. They tried to
draft Kenny Pickett and make that work. That didn't work
at all. That that fell apart and he ended up elsewhere.
And then they bring in Russell Wilson and Justin Fields
because it was on the cheap. Justin Fields, they were
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winning games. But Russell Wilson came back from the injury
that he was that he was dealing with. I believe
it was a calf issue and trained camp and then
he came back and Yeah, he did give them a
threat to throw deep. He gave them something down the field,
but it just they haven't had an answer there. In
six seven years, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, you
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have had three quarterbacks play for your team, and now
going into twenty five, you.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Will have four.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah to me again, Now, if I'm the New York Jets,
I'm saying I Am going to have a measured feeling
of confidence towards Justin Fields. But at least he's younger,
he still has an athletic ability about him, and the
possibilities of his trajectory still going up. Trending up is
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a possibility because I don't feel like guys are being
utilized the right way in the Steelers' offensive system. That
would be what I'm thinking. If I'm the New York Giants,
and that's what I'm thinking. If I'm the New York Jets,
and that's what I'm thinking. If I'm the Cleveland Browns,
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And to me, now we get an opportunity to have
comps in terms of what is Russell Wilson going to
do this year? What is Kenny Pickett going to do
this year? What is Justin Phil's going to do this year?
And all of those things will relate back in a
way to what's taking place in Pittsburgh and what Aaron
Rodgers is doing in Pittsburgh and how they're coaching things
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in Pittsburgh. I'm curious, ken Aaron Rodgers break three thousand
yards throwing the ball in Pittsburgh this year? Yeah, okay,
that should.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You're saying, yay, he should say he stays healthy. I
think he will.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Well, let's see it is the last three quarterbacks there have.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Not done it. Yeah, well, and they're not Aaron Rodgers.
I get that.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
But the last three quarterbacks in Russell Wilson isn't a
bad name. He's got the same amount of Super Bowls
as him.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I mean, listen, Mason Rudolph might have done it if
he didn't get assaulted by Miles Garrett. You never know
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Speaker 2 (35:52):
Ryan Music. Yeah, okay, yeah, let's get it going. Let's
get it going, all right.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I hope everyone had a wonderful fourth July weekend on
a much better weekend than the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Tough series against the Astros, Greg.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Dewey trying to fest pomp over here.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Tough series against the Astros getting swept at home, including
an eighteen to one loss, the worst home loss in
franchise history, getting outscored twenty nine to six over the
entire series, and despite both teams having won World Series
title since that infamous clash they had back in twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Seventeen, bad blood remains.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Jose Altuve of the Astros was booed throughout the entire weekend,
and let's take a listen here to oral Herscheizer and
what he had to say on sportsnet LA.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It hard to deep.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Center field has on the round on tournay wins, this
one wedge itself in the bottom of the wall and
Cam Smith flying into second, apering there with another extra
base sit for the Astros, double homer double, so looking
third against Kasparius.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I don't want a looking old room.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
In some ways, they're swinging at these breaking balls like
they know what it's coming. These bad pitch it's really
a very good pitch. Blow it away probably would have
ended up by the ankles if it would have made
it past the back. It's the oldest thing that you analyze.
You analyze your grip, your your delivery, your glove position
(37:20):
on different pitches.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I might get you.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
They had no answers. It was the most worst loss
by the Dodgers in the history of the stadium. So
still it's still making hints to those uh sign stealing allegations.
I was there yesterday too, guys. Oh yeah, oh man,
clean sweep, oh man, you know left.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I had.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I had guys next to me going Cheetah was like, yeah,
I gotta trush.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Can you can bang?
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Then?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And then he hits a home run.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
By the way, Greg Towey, the diehard Astros fan, said
he wanted to be referred to as jose Al toohey
moving forward, which you know what, you're.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
A heartless bastard. I have to damn what huh what?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
What?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Who said that?
Speaker 7 (38:08):
It is?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
By the way, you know what's great about this rivalry.
It's never going to go anywhere, and they don't even
play that often. But because of what happened in twenty
seventeen and the sign stealing and the trash cans and everything,
that came along with it. Dodger fans will never let
it go and Astros fans when something like this happens,
even after they won like both teams of one World Series,
since like you would figure whatever, listen, it was in
(38:32):
the past, it's never going.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
To be in the past. No, there's always going to
be real.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
I mean, as soon as oral said that, everyone's like,
oh my, here we go again, right, And he was
making a very innocuous comment about maybe ei're tipping their pitches. Yeah,
he didn't say they were cheating.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, right, everybody saying jumps to like, yeah, the cheating
was saying not wanting to open the world right, right,
that was.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Trying to set the stage.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I'm not a groupie or anything, but I'm just saying,
I mean, if you say it before you say your point,
you're saying that's what y'all want, and you wanted to open.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
That only guys that are still there m kohlers too, right, Yeah,
And so I look at it, I go, all right, man,
it's the nostalgia.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I mean, and it's early in the season, right, Like
you're not far enough in the season where things really
matter too much, right, So finding something that that gets
people going. I mean, that's why not take advantage.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
The only thing I can think of, yes this weekend
watching this areas was Dodger fans just need to quit
booing him because the more they blew him, the better
he does.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, just reverse psychologist.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
That's the worst when you get an athlete that's good
with booze at least if you're the booer.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Do you think do you think, all right, so Max months,
he's injured, all right, and he's got he's dealing with
this sprain, knee or whatever he's got going on, he's
going to be out for weeks. Do you think the Dodgers,
if the price was the price is right, would they
ever trade for Bregman. I don't think they would. I
don't think they would ever bring him in ever, because
he's got the staying at the Astros with him.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
There's been a lot of talk about like the gout
the former Astros like Bregman, Tucker, you know, the Verlanders, like.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
He wasn't even on the team though he wasn't, but
he was still there.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
If you're there at that during the run, you're gonna
be associated the farms, right, Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Is that deep?
Speaker 4 (40:19):
If you were there, You're going to be associated with
did you drive by Houston at all?
Speaker 10 (40:24):
Like?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Did you did you take a connector flight out of Houston?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You know, you can't be in part. You can't be
a part of this organ Those guys got booed. They
got booed when they were in La or anywhere else,
and they just.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
I wonder if the price was right and Bregman was available,
would they make a move for that?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
And I just don't think they would. I don't think
they would either.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Yeah, I don't think there's any chance of that happening.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
And we can wrap up with this real quick.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
US men's national team coming up short in the Gold
Cup final against Mexico two one controversial note call in
the sixty.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Six minute controversial they did a no call of video.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Sister review also upheld the fact that there was no
handball in the box.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Wait, what if they would have switched that one out?
What if the US would have won on a technicality
like that in Mexico plus one.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Fifty From what I hear, that's from what I hear.
That's what somebody. Yeah, somebody told me.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
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