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July 17, 2025 41 mins

2 Pros and a Cup of Joe featuring Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington fill-in on The Dan Patrick Show, recapping Shane Gillis’ best burns from hosting the ESPY Awards. The rivalry between Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft continues. Plus, Producer Lee’s hot dog count from National Hot Dog Day.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:43):
So, how the hell we feel in here on a
Thursday morning.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
I'm feeling good man.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
I felt overly entertained last night a bit by Shane
Gillison The SPI's I'm always curious though, to get the reaction.
I've not checked social media to see who got offended,
Who saw you know, whose feelings were hurt because he
made a couple jokes that might have crossed the line.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Here or there.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
That's what they're there to do. That's why they bring
them in across the line. That's why they're comedians. You
get away with it, you know. But people are very
sensitive these days and well catching aliens today in today's world,
I mean, you know, it's it's gonna be it's gonna
be interesting conversations that ensue afterwards, you know, whether it's
Adam Silver or you know, or the baseball player that

(01:29):
he named you know, what was his last name, Sosa
or something to that effect. What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I just I feel like, Uh, the thing I
like about Shane Gillis is anybody can get it like
it doesn't there is no I've got I've got a
certain grouping I'll go after. Like no, I'm just gonna
go after everybody. And everybody got a little taste of
Shane Gillis last night at the SP's. I do not
partake in the SP's personally. Uh, it feels very manufactured.

(01:58):
But when you see that it's a show, well, I
mean it's a show and it's a bad one. Oh,
it's not very good. I don't know who made up
the sps, who came up with it. It's just it
ain't great, but it's just not my thing, not my
cup of tea.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
But shots out to my homie, Katie, my litter mate,
we were in school together. Shots out to her, Shots
out the Saquon. I thought the SPS did really well
representing representing Penn State's community, and I was proud of us.
Thanks to the SPS for, you know, giving us so

(02:36):
much love.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
We are yeah Penn State baby, talking about we give
we give Penn State love here on this show.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Yeah, well all right, yeah all right yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Top gun top.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Yeah, here we go. Yeah, we are baby. All right.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
So with that being said, here was some snippets from
Shane Gillis last night, and we'll just roll through and
play one right after the other, and then after we're
it's kind of breakdown.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
How many clips are there? One, one, two, three, four, five, six,
six clips? Let's rare, let's rank four yeah not five?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, So we'll go, let's just uh, let's fire them
all off, and then we'll break down the the best
to worst.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
After number one.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
S g A is here, give it up for SGA.
Hell yeah, bro, And now everybody's sitting around him is
in foul trouble. When Caitlyn Clark retires from the w NBA.
She's going to work at a waffle house so she
can continue doing what she loves most, fist fighting black women.

(03:40):
The New Kicks had a great season. Uh yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Karl Anthony Towns is here.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Hay girl.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
Oh, four time w NBA All Star Britney Hicks is here.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Give it up for Brittany. Everybody, this was so good.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
I'm uh, I'm joking around. That's my friend's wife. I knew.
None of you knew WNBA players. Snor Sanders had his
jersey number retired to Colorado this year, and people are
saying it's because of nepotism, because of his father, and
it's not. It's because he went thirteen and twelve over
his career and he almost won the Alamo Bule. Definitely

(04:20):
not nepotism, right, all right? Donald Trump wants to stage
a UFC fight on the White House lawn. The last
time he staged a fight in DC, Mike Pence almost died.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
All right, you don't have to do that. It was fine.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
I didn't write it.

Speaker 8 (04:41):
Actually, there was supposed to be an Epstein joke here, but.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Gus got deleted.

Speaker 7 (04:48):
Must have probably deleted itself right, probably never existed. Actually,
let's move on as a country and ignore that.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
U yeah, want rank them? YEA want? Number one? Was
the last last one was number one? I'm gonna going
I'm gonna say number one. What I think the last
one hit number one?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
But I don't know the Caitlin Clark fighting flat house.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
That's gotta be a number two. I go number two
with that.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
We didn't even on the funny thing about the pretty
Hicks one was I believe that it is just his
buddy and his wife, and it's like, you know, they
point the camera, got everybody clapped, everyone.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
And she didn't even play in the w n b A.
Just a black woman sitting there and it's in bass standard. Dang.
I mean it proved the point though, Stop acting like like,
stop acting like stuff matters and getting outraged when somebody
calls it out. I'm sorry, like I'm sorry. The w
n b A will not pass up the NBA in popularity.

(05:57):
It will not. It will not. All these people saying
that it is, I don't understand what you're basing that
off of. And you know what, Shane gill is totally
put your own blast because all y'all cat's ringing the
bell on that topic. We're clapping your hands for a
lady that doesn't even play in the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say
he probably won't be invited back to do the Seas again.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Why they got to approve your your material?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
First off? First off?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Why that's what everyone said after he got canned from
Saturday Live. Then he comes back to host it. I
think he's done it twice now since then.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I just think people are too sensitive over there, man,
Like they just are. And you know, he could said, well,
you know, I didn't write it, and then he adds
in an Epstein joke. He could have gone off the
script there and they don't know about it, like it
just you know, there's I just I remember Norm McDonald
I think did the SPS one year and just laid

(06:55):
in and didn't play nice, and there were a lot
of people that were upset. I think John Lway got
pissy about it because he took some shots at John
l Way. I just I thought it was hilarious, but
there was a lot of people who got a little
bit clown especially for the w NBA.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
I just don't understand you you hire never played, Never Played,
You hire comedians to do awkward and and like weird stuff. Yes,
that you want people to feel weirded out and awkward
from That's why you hire them. That's why you hire them.

(07:32):
If that's not the direction you're going in, I mean,
you can look at the names and put together how
you feel about it. I mean, come on, let's let's
be real here. Dang ce Q looking like John Travolta.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
No one, I don't know that you want to be.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
Going preling walk talk like a t bur praling. Y'all
know about y'all know about Grease. No, y'all know about
Grease the team.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I haven't seen Grease in a long time.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Come on, man, I'm actually I'm one hundred percent okay
with admitting that too.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Dang bro, that's a good that's a good musical man,
all of them were. Man, that's sad.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Look real quick, real quick?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
All right?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Can we pass up the Karl Anthony towns Hey girl.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Hey girl, Hey girl?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Fantastic?

Speaker 5 (08:28):
I mean, well, I just I think I got lost
in the shuffle of everything else that was on and
then also has has Prime responded back to the schdor
Sanders joke.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Oh, I don't know, but he I mean, yeah, that's
a good point. He would make time.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Let's see, uh, fifteen and thirteen, dang I had thirteen
and twelve, thirteen and twelve, thirteen to twelve.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, I mean he does own like every stat I
think passing stat they ever have at Colorado in his defense.
And by the way, there were a one win team
before he got there, so.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
And also, is that Dion Sanders fault or the program's
fault for not doing something sooner for some of those guys?
Was it Dion Figures? Who was the guy who want
to tell? Yeah, like, why didn't they step up and
do something about it? Like if he was great, he
had all those years to celebrate him, they didn't do
it like that Dion's fault.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
That's a pretty interesting one. I mean, again, he's not
I don't know. When you look at the Chador Sanders situation,
and you could look at his body of work and say, okay,
he's broken records and stuff like that, But you have
a guy in Dion Figures who is in the College

(09:45):
Football Hall of Fame. He is in the College Football
Hall of Fame, and he was an All American. And
you know Chador isn't an All American. I mean he's
he's not not by the recognized public ations. He's not
an All Americans. So in theory, well it's not in theory,
he he won't be a College Football Hall of Famer.

(10:08):
And you have a guy that's in the College Football
Hall of Fame and that same exact number is retired
under a different guy who won't be a College Football
Hall of Famer. Well, Brittany, that's just a little perspective.
I mean, I'm not trying to throw shade. I'm just
saying that's just a little perspective.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Will Brittany Hicks get her jersey retire?

Speaker 6 (10:27):
That's It's a great question. That's a great, great question.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
At some point, I think we should be we should
be part of the movement. Let's let's start this movement.
Let's be the ones that push Yeah, not that one,
not that hashtag Hicks.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
By the way, there's some w for the Hall of
Fame bawn like they should have they should have.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
A Britney Hicks babble that night.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
And for some franchise out there that's looking to draw
like that's that'll be a collector's item one day based
on what Gillis did.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Uh lean into it, right to lean into it?

Speaker 6 (11:05):
The hey girl, like you say a Q, I mean
there's something to that one. I mean there's something to
that one.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
What is to that?

Speaker 6 (11:13):
I didn't get that one? Oh really you didn't get
that one?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Tell me what you talked about this during the Knicks.
We talked about this during the run.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
Man, real feel, real zesty feel to it. But you know, hey,
you know it's all right. I mean he's the big cat.
You know, they don't call him the big dog. They
called him the big cat for a freeze.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
I've got u k Alums reaching out to me. Tell
him that he's been zesty since since his college.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
This no kidding, So.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I mean look up, top cat. I mean, look, you know,
everybody's got their own style. So you know, Caleb Williams
has a rosebind is here you know during photo shoots.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
So there's nothing that's your quarterback, that's your quarterback?

Speaker 6 (12:05):
That is you you saying? Who is this?

Speaker 5 (12:09):
I couldn't tell it was a weird angle, I'll be honest,
because the flower took up half the photo.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
Weird angle. I mean, I would agree. It wasn't a
great angle. I could take it all the way in
ce it was like right there, it was a it
was interesting.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
By the way, do you think the Tom Brady Roast
on Netflix kind of opened up the door to maybe
people being a little bit more open minded two comedians
letting it fly like this, Well, because look, I love roast,
I love comedians.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I think it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
When people get offended by it, I think it's even
more hilarious. And it seems like since all of that
the Tom Brady Roast that there's been a lot of
people became stars off that. I think that's still Netflix's
biggest event that they put on like that, that's one
of the one of their bigger events they.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Put Here's what I think started it.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
I think during COVID when people were at home and
podcasting became a big thing, Joe Rogan continually I think
gained more attraction, and a lot of the comedians that
have gone through there, I think, you know, they tell
a bit of their jokes, you know, not that they're
doing a stand up necessarily, but you see the humor,
you see some of the jokes that come from that.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
I thought that was kind of the initial.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Momentum behind it where it started to build, where it
was like, oh, it's okay for us to like just
make fun of things and look at how ridiculous things
are at this point in time in human nature. I
think that was one of the moments that I don't
know if it's because maybe we're going crazy because of
COVID and all the different regulations or lack thereof, whatever
side you're on, whatever, it just it felt like that

(13:58):
was kind of the start of it where people started
be like looking around and going, what are we doing here?
This is kind of ridiculous. It started, it started to
build from there a little bit, and I think that
was that was the start, at least in my now.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
I just feel like we've been to our fair share
of of award shows, you know, award banquets, whether it's
high school, whether it was a college one, whether it
was a bigger college one like the ESPN you know,
home depots or whatever it may have been. You know,
a wilder camp. You break on the people that are there,

(14:34):
Like if it's somebody a part of your team or
your coach or your coach is going up you, that's
what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Not at the Oscars. Gotta be careful.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
You get slapped in the face.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
You got to be careful, you know, at the Oscars,
you can't. I can't mess around with that.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
I just thought that was show. Show culture is to
bring somebody on that's going to say crazy stuff out
of their mouth. And they're comedians, So you can chock
it up to the fact that this this is why
they hired this person to do the job. I don't
feel like that's anything new, and I don't feel like
people should be outraged by it. That's just that's what

(15:09):
comedians do. That's their profession, is to say outrageous things
that are uncomfortable, making fun of society and culture. That's
what they do.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
I don't think I'm going out on a limb here.
I think if Shane Gillis never got asked to do
it again, I think he'd be one hundred percent okay
with that.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
Oh yeah, it's like he got his money.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Do they get paid for doing this, by the way.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
I believe so. I believe so do they. I'm pretty
certain that this one they get paid. Yeah, so who
from Disney? Yes, I would assume so. Yes, Okay, because.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
I mean, I know certain things. They're like, oh no,
it's the platform, which he's got a bit of enough platform.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
He doesn't need that now. But I always way like,
is it worth it?

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Is it worth it to go on to show if
you tick off some people again or maybe it's like
a one off and it never happens again.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Maybe just to check that box, say he did it
one time.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Or to have the ability to stand up on a
stage and then make fun of just the audacity to
make fun of like the greatest athletes on the planet.
It's kind of it's kind of funny if you think
about it, like you've made it to a certain spot
in life. If you've got the ability to just stand
up on stage and make jokes about anyone, anyone can
get it. Everyone's going to get it, and you can

(16:17):
have fun with it. Like that's that's probably like actually
a pretty pretty big measures step, I'd say for some comedians.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
Grox is it's generally negotiated with the show producer who
you know, what they what they get paid, so they
it's ranged from fifteen hundred dollars to something other, which
is crazy.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
That's fifteen said.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Just do a donation and that's the case.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Yeah. Who Norm McDonald when he hosted, reportedly received fifteen
fifteen hundred dollars. That's one five zero zero.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Right, and no doubt he gambled that away right afterwards.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Oh really, they're in Vegas. They're here and Norm McDonald.
Nor McDonald's a big time gambler. He went bankrupt. He
went bankrupt twice. Gambling you love fighting out like people downside.
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
He's talked about it.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Name okay, name me right now, real quick, off the
top of your head. I know you want to do
a read and get to whatever. Namely five people you
had a ridiculously bad gambling habit that were there were
like superstars and and any realm any realm.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Uh that are gambling scandals. Uh, Tim donaghy uh, Norm McDonald,
Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
They're a former in Vegas who's got a residency. Rumors
are oute about that.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Bruno Mars.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Oh yes, Bruno Mars, the degenerate.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
Is that the Bruno Mars is on that list?

Speaker 9 (17:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Phil Micholson was another one that's you know, not to
insult any golf fans out there, but Phil Micholson was
another one that was involved in that.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
It's far Listen, please live tour.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
I think he's free range to consult it.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Listen, there's nothing wrong with gambling.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm just pointing out Norm McDonald had a he went
bankrupt twice because of gambling. Just saying, man, you know,
doesn't change the fact he's one of the all time greats.
I'm not gonna say it. Michael Jordan had a gambling issue,
all right. Those are the reckless allegations made by people.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
They may have stepped away.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
I mean, it's it's documented that he they gambled, but
they say that as NBA culture was gambling.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, anhther wrong with that? Okay, well I do know this.

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Speaker 11 (19:47):
I'm out here, Oh Richard, Oh wow, wow, oh boy.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
It is like did you feel like that was coming?
Maybe Forshan Gillis at one point last night?

Speaker 11 (20:08):
I mean, Jada, I love him, g I Jane too,
can't wait to see it.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
All right, I mean I'm surprised. Was was kat in
the stands?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
That was a nice one.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Okay, yeah, it was an audience.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Maybe he might have walked on stage and rained.

Speaker 8 (20:26):
Down on Shane that oh wow.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Maybe Caitlin Clark might have went on stage and rained
down one then grabbed the microphone and says, see it
isn't just black women, dropped the mic and keep my
name out your dang mouth and force he went back towards.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Although Gillis does strike me as somebody who would defend
himself unlike Chris Won in that moment.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
So maybe he's a he's a former football player. He's
got some hands, right, he's a PA guy. Yeah, he's
on the front of the East Side too. They fight
a little, they fight dirty. Yeah, well, I mean he's
from what York.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
We almost had to had to throw down in Ireland,
So there.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Was that Oh jeezus, Oh yeah that's right.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Don't say, oh yeah, that's right. You weren't going to
get into nobody's fight. I wasn't even there, Oh exactly.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Yeah, he wasn't there.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
Neither were you.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
I mean, well that's true.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Like, by the way, I'm gonna the story.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
But this is this is like an old timer.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
He him and his family were going down to Turks
and Caicos for I believe. I think it was his
mom's seventieth birthday. And they get to the airport and
realizes his, uh, his passports expired.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
So fortunately they were flung out of Miami.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
I guess you can like, actually, they have a service
where you can get it done in like twenty four
to forty eight hours, so he had to stay over
the rest of the family flew, but he was able
to finally get it and fly out the following day,
which does beg the question, LeVar, how are you not
able to do this?

Speaker 6 (21:59):
I don't know, man, I went through the process and
it didn't get done in time. I knew that it
was done even if you did that, And then it
was it was done and ready for me to go
get it, and I didn't want to go stand in
the line again, so I didn't go. Was so now
haven't I still haven't gotten.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I still haven't got there.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
I got my real ID, but I haven't got my passport.
That line was long, is is all?

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Like?

Speaker 6 (22:25):
It was longer than probably the line to get into
heaven or hell. Bro Like it was a long line, man,
like you could get judgment to go to heaven or
hell before you get in to get your passport or
any type of documentation. At that building in La it was.
It was bad. They had they had the line was
so long. They broke the line up and had the

(22:50):
line move in sections and and like kind of like
that's your company right there, that line moves, like don't
you guys move at all? Like and I mean, it
was all the way into the parking lot. It was bad.
And then I get there and I get it done,
and then they're like, yeah, you gotta come back and
get it. I was like, yeah, okay, still haven't. I

(23:17):
still haven't gone back.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Miserable.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
And then they sent the letter like yeah, you paid
all that money to get it, like what you said
to get it, expedite it, and I let it. I
let it expire. So there you go. I got a
few things I gotta get. I gotta get that TSA
pre check. I haven't done that. I'm gonna break down
and finally do that because I got a lot of
traveling I have to do.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
That's that's the biggest no brainer that I didn't know
about until I got was like eighty five bucks for
five years.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
You gave me such a shameful look, bruh, Like, I'll
stand in this line with you, but you know, just
know that line over there where there is no line
that's clear that should have been the line I was in.
You know. It's cool.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, but I rode with you. You did, I did.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
We had a good time too.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
It was also it also helped that I didn't really
know where I was supposed to go because it was
very unorganized at Houston. The Houston Airport was not well
put together at that point. But I do know this.
The rivalry is back on in the NFL. All right,
hit is back on. So this is awesome, by the way,
Bill Belichick. Robert Craft. First things first, Robert Craft, this

(24:25):
is a fanatics fest a couple of weeks ago, and
he was talking with Julian Edelman and he was talking
with Gronk on the Dudes on Dudes podcast and they
asked him what was the biggest risk you took as
Patriots owner? And Robert Craft said this, Well, the.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
One that got question the most was in ninety nine,
I gave up a number one draft pick for a
coach who had only won a little over forty percent
of his game to get him out front. I don't
know if there are any Jet fans here, but I
think getting Bill Belichick to come to the Patriots in

(25:05):
nineteen ninety nine it was a big risk, and I
got hammered in the Boston media. I think he was
with us for twenty four years and we did okay.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
So that was Robert Kraft. It's not Harry Carey. That
was Roy Craft.

Speaker 8 (25:27):
Very close, Chris.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
That was Robert Kraft at Fanatics Fest talking about the
risk he took and hiring Belichick.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
So Bill heard it, yeah, and probably his girlfriend heard
it and let him know about it.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
He reached out to Don Vanada of ESPN and had
the following to say. Quote, as I told Robert multiple
times through the years, I took a big risk by
taking the New England Patriots head coaching job. I already
had an opportunity to be the coach of the New
York Jets, but the ownership situation was unstable. I had
been warned by multiple previous Patriotriots coaches as well as

(26:01):
other members of the NFL organization.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
And the media.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I mean, New England job was going to come with
many internal obstacles. I made it clear that we would
have had changed the way the team was managed to
regain the previously attained success. I appreciated Robert giving me
the opportunity to make those changes and build a program
that was consistent with my vision for a championship team.
Belichick went on to say the Jets were a solid

(26:26):
team after three years of rebuilding under Bill Parcells, which
included an AFC Championship Game appearance in nineteen ninety nine. Meanwhile,
the Patriots organization had dismantled their ninety six AFC championship
team and became one of the worst in the AFC.
It didn't help that they were ten million dollars over
the cap heading into my first season as head coach
in two thousand. Put that in your Robert Kraft Patriots

(26:50):
pipe and smoke it.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
How about that?

Speaker 5 (26:52):
I mean, that's a republic, let's all be This is
a different version of Bill Belichick than what we saw
when he was with the new England pay If this
would have come up, he would have went with the
old strategy of We're on to Cincinnati. He would have
not addressed this. He wouldn't want to make it a
distraction he would have moved on to whatever's next next question,

(27:13):
not even got as fired up about it. I don't
know what's changed in his life since he got the
Chapel Hill. I'm not sure what spiced him up. I
love this version of Bill Belichick. This is the best
version of Bill Belichick we have seen yet.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
He's spicy, he's got a little fire to him.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
I like this like he's firing back at an owner who,
by the way, in all intentsive purposes, is known and
you'll hear people tell you how cheap he is. And
yet Bill Belichick was able to make it work and
be the most successful coach we've seen in the NFL.
It's pretty ridiculous. I think when you factor that in
to consideration, and just his titles too. He wasn't just

(27:53):
a coach. He was managing the roster and everything else,
and he took on a lot to be able to
make that work and make it what it was. And yes,
Tom Brady deserves credit, but he was a big part
of that too. So I just I look at it
and say, man, I don't know why Robert Kraft keeps
doing this, like keep trying to give himself credit. Is
this so people can recognize him and push him to

(28:14):
be nominated for the Hall of Fame. Is that what
this is really about.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
I'll say this, In the end, he is the owner
of the team. He did make the decision and if
if by chance, he wasn't what he needed to be,
I don't think that this team has the run that
it has, and I just think that that it goes
without saying. But the fact that he says it maybe

(28:38):
becomes a maybe a tab bit of an issue. I
think it is the idea of him wanting to get
into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I think that
is something that's very important to him, and I think
he keeps it front of mind to people that he
played a major part in this New England Patriots, the franchise,
having the dynasty run that thing. I mean, there's no

(29:01):
ducking or dodging that. That is reality. And here's the thing.
All of them are so far removed from their success
in that run that any of them really to me,
they're all bulletproof. Robert Kraft can talk all the mess
he wants to talk. At the end of the day,
he was the owner. Bill Belichick can talk all of
the head he wants to talk because he was the

(29:22):
head coach. Tom Brady can talk all the head he
wants to talk about because he was the quarterback and
the lynchpin to all of it for them being able
to have the success. Nobody's going to have any issues
with them having any trash to talk about their time
in New England. It's just going to be a conversation,
so they can throw out whatever they want to throw out.
But to your point, Q, the stepping out and being

(29:46):
more outgoing and forthcoming with his feelings and different things
like that, I think it's one hundred percent. He said
he brought his partner on to help film with his
public image like she was apparently, by his account, the
reason why he did the book that he was doing

(30:07):
interviews for and marketing and promoting. I can I can
almost assure you because the way his response has come off,
they come off as someone who is aware of how
things work in today's culture and society and how you respond,
and he's doing it. It's guided. These are guided guided, uh.

(30:28):
You know responses that he's having in the media, and
I like it too because it humanizes him. But you
also know that you know the partner is there and
well she's legit. You know, she's not just there to
be there, She's she's actually helping guide and direct this.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
So if you follow the what has happened since they
decided to part ways. There were some reports out there
that maybe Robert Kraft got in the ear of the
Falcons and talked them out of hiring Belichick. That stuff
came out. There was the documentary that came out that
Robert Craft's production company put together that didn't really give
Belichick the credit he deserved and paid it him poorly,

(31:05):
And you had players defend Belichick publicly against no, no, no, no,
that's not actually true, and Robert Kraft tried to backtrack
and play nice. Then they did the toast at the
Tom Brady Roast on Netflix, and I think Belichick just
played cool. I didn't think what Robert Craft said was
all that bad about Oh, it took a big risk.
I didn't think it was insulting at all. I think

(31:26):
Belichick was just at the point and he was like, man,
if this guy says one more.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Thing, I'm going in. I'm going in.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
You're not gonna tell me who I am as a
coach and how this was a big risk. Let me
go ahead and break it all the way down, not
only from where we were at and where I was
and the job that I had, but how bad you
were at managing the cap, managing the roster and everything
that came along with it before I came in and
saved the day. I think it's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
I love Okay, but hold on, pause there, Like, why
do you feel like Robert Kraft needed to say what
he said how he said it? Hold on when someone no,
Because this is what I'm trying to get back to
the root of all this is, if you're Robert Kraft,
why do you need to say it was a risk
just because of the situation because you traded a first
round draft pick or at that point in time he

(32:15):
didn't have the best win loss record.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Because they asked him what was the biggest risk you
took as an owner?

Speaker 5 (32:21):
And but we feel like that was the biggest risks
of orc has come to mind. I mean, that was
a pretty big risk. I don't risk at the time.
Are you, Like you tell me a coach who's already
been a head coach has close to a five hundred record,
right for a team that great Cleveland at that time
was was was decent, But at that point in time,

(32:44):
by the way, I already had another head coaching job.
So you're saying, like there's a risk to it. What's like,
he was already a head coach. Clearly someone else liked
him too enough to be able to hire him with that.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Win loss record, So what was the risk trading a
first round pick? How many did you hit on before that? Anyway?

Speaker 5 (32:59):
And you weren't going to pay him the second contract
because you're cheap. So I just I go back and
look at it and say, like, was this really the
biggest risk you took?

Speaker 6 (33:07):
Really, it's a flex, that's all it is. It's a
It's a flex. It's the most significant higher Brady ever.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
He does bring up a good point. I mean the
neon light that's a massage that he walked.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
Fit's the most significant higher he's ever made. Pretty balls,
and there's always going to be a way to try
to play off of it. I mean, he could have
said Tom Brady, for what it's worth, tom Brady was
a late round draft pick. I mean, he could have
said that was a big risk.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I mean, who knows there is something to Robert Kraft
trying to prove his worth, because the guy's got six
Super Bowls.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
As an owner and he's not that. I don't think
he's trying to prove his worth. I don't. I think
it's Frank that's frame th incorrectly. I think Robert Kraft
sees himself as the architect of one of the greatest
sports franchises in the history sports, and he's going to
remind you.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
And reportedly robber Craft was pissed off that Jerry Jones
got in the Hall of Fame before him. And he's
got double the Super Bowls and a more longer sustained
success than Jerry Jones has. And he's in and robber
Craft's not. And and I do wonder if part of
this is no, no, no, no, I deserve credit too?

Speaker 3 (34:20):
What about me? What about the job I did? And
if you, if you.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
Guys accomplished at that level, would you not remind people
if they ask you, if you if you were asked
a question, would you not, in some way, form or fashion,
if it's related to football, if it's related to what
you're doing with your team and your franchise that you own,
you went and remind people if you hadn't been recognized

(34:46):
for it.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yet I just don't feel like he needs to.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
And you're probably right. But if you're in that situation, though.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Well let me let me put it this way too.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
I think you can do it without like sacrificing the
relationship you have with that coach, because that's in essence
what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
It's like it's chippy.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
You know, you don't need to take that shot, or
you don't need to say, like, well, hey, I'm not
going to discount Tom Brady being a risk because yeah,
he was a sixth round pick and we started him
over a guy who was a first round pick and
Drew Bledsoe who probably could have won Super Bowls two
at that time. Right, Well, I'm not gonna say that
because I've got a great relationship with Tom. Who do
I not have a good relationship with Bill Belichick? So

(35:28):
why not then go on and take a shot at
him and make that the biggest risk when in reality, again,
based on you know, events we've seen the come out
public clearly not the biggest risk he's taking. But I
just look at it and say, I don't think you
need to take a shot at someone else to remind
someone of the success that you've had. I think you

(35:48):
can still explain to people how you've been successful. It
could have been pursing the team, you know, it could
have been, Hey, my my initial decision to buy the
New England Patriots and how hard it was to be
able to build that up and then be able to
find a way of, you know, trading a first round
draft pick to get to get another head coach. There's
there's other ways of phrasing it without looking like you're
taking a shot at Bill Belichick.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
I think that's why he responded like this.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
I think it's all They're all valid points that you
guys are making. I think it still comes down ultimately,
is he insecure? Does he have some insecurities? One hundred percent,
But in having those insecurities, does that man have more
than enough firepower, whether people approve of it or not

(36:32):
to shoot what he wants to shoot at people, when
he wants to shoot it, and how he wants to
shoot it. The answer would be yes. Whether people take
a step and see him as he's not as endaring,
or he's not as lovable or likable doing what he's doing,
the bottom line is it's still Robber Kraft, the owner

(36:52):
of one of the greatest franchises and one of the
greatest runs in the history of sports and in the
NFL in football. That's who he is, so you know,
whether for good or for bad, he shoots his shot
when he feels like doing it.

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Speaker 12 (38:36):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning, Britty, Good
morning the bar guys. In case you missed it, the
mid Summer Classic. That's right, the MLB All Star Game
on Fox in Atlanta. It did combine for a seven
point two million dollar viewership according to Nielsen, peaking at
just eight point one.

Speaker 8 (38:57):
Million million dollars billion dollars million viewers. That did I
say dollars?

Speaker 6 (39:01):
I've met viewers.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Cheese dogs on your mind?

Speaker 8 (39:07):
Still cleaning out my gums there?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yes, this story is.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Ed Lee instead of going with this story, Why didn't
you just go into what you did yesterday? All right,
tell our listeners you know what the leftovers? Oh well,
I'll jump right into it.

Speaker 12 (39:19):
But I celebrated our great National hot Dog hot Dog Day.
National hot Dog Day was yesterday and I started early.
I told you guys, I was going to get in
line for the famous Pink's hot dogs, but I did
take a nap instead. Instead, I got in line, was
the first one there at the Wiener Schnitzel, Me and
my good buddy Todd.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
Everyone who's put.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
A one sauce on.

Speaker 12 (39:42):
His hot dog, he did put on one of the
hot dogs.

Speaker 8 (39:46):
He got four at Waner, I got two.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Because there's not enough sodium.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
That's a weird one, right there, a one sauce on
the hot dogs.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
So you think Lee's worried about his sodium intake. Do
you think, when's the last time you think Lee ever
looked at the sodium?

Speaker 6 (39:59):
Sodium?

Speaker 8 (40:00):
Nothing?

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Never, Lo's face looks a little swollen.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
And that would be the sodium. That would be from
the sodium.

Speaker 12 (40:09):
Yeah, he did steal that a one from the diner
where we got our third, our second batch of hot dogs.
So that was the second place. Yeah, yeah, and that
was a disgusting hot dog. I could not finish that one.
I almost lost it on that.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (40:23):
They you know, they usually cook everything on the grill
right in front of you. These hot dogs came out
of the back, out of the back room.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
He's dried up the ones they were about to throw out,
and they were like, we got two guys want them. Yep, hey,
get a load of this.

Speaker 8 (40:39):
From then on, I'm.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
A hobo partner shopping cart filling over dogs.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
So that was our second batch of hot dogs.

Speaker 12 (40:45):
And I went to my favorite Larry's Chili Dogs got
a chicken one there. That made me feel a lot better.
I felt good after that one. And then we capped
it off with some free hot dogs that they were
given out at the doghouse.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
They put him on a nice.

Speaker 8 (40:58):
King's Hawaiian roll. It was very delicious.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
So they saw the opportunity again to give away food
they were going to throw out, right, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Maybe the hot dogs weren't free, it was.

Speaker 12 (41:12):
She was a little hungry, man like. That was my
last one was at five o'clock. At like eight, I
was like, man, I could go for a hot dog.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
They locked them registers, locked them registers, and get these
guys some of that old food. Get them up out
of here, yes, quickly as possible.

Speaker 8 (41:27):
So five hot dogs yesterday, jeez, for free. That's done man,
total cost America.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
Oh like fifteen bucks, well done, that was gas money.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
Literally, you need help, Lee, and feel good, and so
does Todd.

Speaker 6 (41:48):
Y'all feel strong, y'all need help together
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