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July 28, 2025 39 mins

The guys talk about the Raiders abruptly releasing DT Christian Wilkins and reports that it stemmed from an "incident" with a teammate, Lloyd Howell using NFLPA funds to visit Miami strip clubs, a review of Happy Gilmore 2, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Bag it up. I guess when I took my vacation,
I really took a vacation. I should have changed my song,
but I was away. All we did, y'all use a
different song. Now we noticed something about you while you're gone.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
What I was hanging, I was doing the same thing
as in the NFL P do.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
I didn't spot it. Brady spotted it. Oh yeah, this
gonna be interesting. The theme with his intro songs. Brady
already said, I've done stripper music. But I already gave you,
guys the the reason why I play stripper music.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Because that's who listens to our show.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I mean, they're the ones who are awake trying to
become leaving work president and that was the move. I mean,
now that I know this information, I mean, maybe my
song selections do make me more appealing to my former
brother in the NFL. Yeah, like LA plays stripper music

(01:39):
all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I hit show, let's hit them up? What made what
made them think that was gonna be a good idea?
I just I am.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
I'm amazed, although I shouldn't be. But walking into Tootsies,
Like what made them be like, oh yeah, this is fine.
We're expense and everything and the union be okay with it?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, like thinking they were going to pay for all this.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Some punter who's like, hey, by the way, did you
see over their arrington? Did you see they went to
the strip club and they spent these There's a couple
of nerds are gonna come through this and find this out,
you know.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I mean, just that is that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's a horribly bad look, like talk about taking you down.
That that is the type of information that I mean,
how much confidence can you have left?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
And your you? And like what.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Bothers me is like it's a he's a U Penn
Harvard NBA educated guy, like How are you still doing that?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Like?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
How how did you still think? At no point during
the course of your education, no one said to you
like it. By the way, you can't expense of it's
the strip club. If you do, it's probably not a
good look, especially if you're the executive director for a union, and.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Probably not a good idea. Did it at a previous
employer back in like twenty five?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I gotta say, though, didn't that pop up with under
Armour too?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Though? What do you mean? I think something like that
popped up with under Armour in a corporate like like
if it's Kevin Plank. I mean, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Saying, well, that's yeah. But I mean is that he
can do he wants well, not Kevin Plank. But would
he be the equivalent of Kevin Plank? It'd be more
the equivalent of someone who is I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
What would it be. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
But it wasn't Kevin Plank that was connected to it.
It was the way they were entertaining perspective athletes or
athletes that they already had signed, I believe.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
And here's the thing is, I'd say this a little different.
Your union.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Dude's gonna pay for all that stuff in his salary.
In this case, they're spending money to try to be
able to make more money by like bringing those guys in.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
So even in that case, it's little different. It's a
little different, Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I mean I don't see why strip clubs should be
judged any differently than a diner or you know, a
five star restaurant, because some of them are five star restaurants.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
You know, all right, I rocked it.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I rocked it, all right, here's what we got. In
twenty eighteen, under Armour faced scrutiny after The Wall Street
Journal reported that the company had previously allowed employees, including
executives and CEO Kevin Playing, to expense strip club visits
on corporate cards, also for sporting events did include KP.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, damn, he's the business owner.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's like, ultimately, how much money is he spended in
that move of lover? Hey, guys, I think we we
misused our pretteem at Super Bowl Week. I think we've
we just revealed today apparently the thing to do is
to go to uh, go to strip club.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
And I've never received the check for Super Bowl. I mean,
I know.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, y'all submit expense accounts. I guess I need to.
But but they but they certainly would not cover my
expense account.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I mean, let's be clear, like on that.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Topic though, on that topic, did you sell your Super
Bowl tickets? I mean, I'll be honest, I did.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
When out.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, I would never go to a Super Bowl unless
I was playing in it, exactly A lot of I
always sold them.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, there's guys not getting in trouble for it. The
story out.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Jonas So at least one hundred players in the NFL
are facing fines and possible suspensions because they sold their
allotted Super Bowl tics. Under an agreement between the league
and the NFL Players Association, players who violated the rule
will be fined one and a half times the face
value of the ticket and lose their a lot of
tickets to the next two Super Bowls. Those who decline

(05:33):
the punishment could be suspended by Roger Goodell. League and
union sources with direct knowledge of the situations.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
That's how you know the game is getting so corporate lead.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Drive gives like if if you're given something and you
can't go and you want to sell it, what do
they care?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
What? What's the what's the problem.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
That's revenue. That's revenue they're losing. Like, think about how
many pays have enough? Yeah, but it's never enough, right,
you're always looking, uh, looking at ways of improving.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
How you do things.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
To give you two, If we're going to give you
a pair of tickets, every single give them, right, you
gotta pay for them? Do you pay I didn't. I
don't think you paid for them. Do you not pay
for them?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
No? I don't remember. I think you're comped too. I
think I think you're right. I think you were comp too.
I thought you were comped to. You just have to
Oh you know what teams would do.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Though they used to They used to mail them and
then you could get them in your hometown. You wouldn't
actually have to go to the venue. And then they
started making it where you had to fly to whatever
city it was to sign them in and pick them up.
And then you'd have the bagman just wait with the cashfaction.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, and they out there, you know.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest though, Like I think
for fans, they should have kept the real tickets because
they were sweet.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Like I remember when I'd go pick those things up.
I was like, man, it'd be so.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Cool to be playing and you know, in this and
be able to have like these tickets too to put
up with you know, other stuff. Is like a memento.
And then I thought, even even if you were just
a fan, though, how cool would it be you know,
your team's playing in it. You got these sweet, like laminated,
all decked out tickets and all that.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean, they look official. Yeah, And then I just
passed that thing right back, right there, you go. Let
me get that cash, Let me get that question.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
That used to be like eight hundred bucks per I
think when we first started, they're probably about that.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I would imagine LeVar were they cheaper, I don't remember.
I would be like, I.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Remember my first one was eight hundred because I was like,
there's a They were like, no, we got a guy.
He'll give you sixteen hundred piece. I was like, man,
but what was it. It's a really good matchup. I
was like, probably get more than that. But then I
was like, but I could delt my money right now
and just you know, walk away with the cash and
not have to.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Worry about it again. So I can't remember what we
ended up doing.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
But it's digital now though, and I think digital has
really changed the game on how you're able to do things,
like you can transfer to tickets pretty pretty easily, you know, like,
all right, I got five tickets here, I say, go
on their boom, say I'm giving it to you. But
now all that stuff is so trackable.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's also people will wait you out.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Don't ask me how I know this, all right, but
people will wait you out if you're trying to sell tickets.
It used to be if you were having the physical ticket,
you would need to buy it ahead of time so
that it would get to you and that you could
use a ticket. Now people will wait until right before
the start of the game because you can do it
on your phone. Yeah, the prices will just drop and
drop and drop.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Coush man, how good of this could you imagine? Could
you imagine how to deal with that in like baseball
or you have one hundred.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
And sixty two games? Tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I can't imagine. I can't imagine. You're good, seats, Jo,
I mean, can.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
You imagine eighty one different home games that you've got
to deal with that? I mean, like on a large scale,
doing that that would be tough.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
What a pain in the ass that would be. That's
I mean, you're giving away a lot of tickets thirty
two teams.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Especially if like that team would it would fall out
with the Milwaukee Brewers. You know it's there, it's pretty tight,
but you know things start to separate, but.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
You yeah to tell me about it. Yeah makes uh.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
That would definitely make the conversation about doing highlight earlier.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I mean that seemed like that hurt.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, big three game matchup coming up later on Brewers Cubs,
So I can't wait for that. How good were the
seats when they're giving you those tickets to the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Or are we talking like?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I don't did you have a look at bup le
of bar? What's that the seats of seats? I never
looked them up, but I can't imagine. I can't imagine
they will be good seats. I just can't.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
They got to be upper Bowl like, like higher up.
The NFL players have got like a whole thing going on.
You hat strip clubs selling Super Bowl tickets.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's a microcosm of oh yeah, first regular in society,
we grind, all right, in our defense, we grind like
that's how poor the NFL players are compared to other
professional sports.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Like you don't hear about this with the NBA players.
All those dudes are paid too much. They guaranteed contracts.
Like the football players have to figure out. Yeah, they
have to figure out like other ways of making cash.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
So don't play moss like we're just doing what anyone
else will do. Oh my god, that's a that's a
that's a fair yes, guy, live out here, man, you know.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
I mean I was just I was having dinner last
night with a D three head football coach and we
were just kind of talking about, you know, how the
transfer portal has impacted even like his level. You know,
he's like, hey man, he's like, guys ball out in
our league. It's like they're getting a little nil then
move up to like Central Michigan or someone.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
You know, we were, And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
It's like it's impacted every single level because it's football.
It's just it's kind of grimy, and it's you're you're
trying to find whatever avenue path you can to get
to the league, and then when you get there, you're
still grinding to stay there. It's just the whole entire journey.
It's it's not like these other sports. It's entirely different.

(11:17):
You know, some of these cats for basketball, they're already
like a prize you know, player in AAU and in
some states are making legit nil money. It's like playing
AAU basketball in high school and and they're already coveted.
Once they get the college, they're there for a year,
then the bouts, and I mean, it's just it's entirely different.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
There's a lot going on in basketball. Some would say
n I l had well. I mean Ed obannon Is
was a basketball player. Is probably the reason why all
of this has happened. But I'll say it is a
grind trying to get there. You do have to go
through a lot. There's a lot of posturing. I mean,

(11:58):
the whole whole back to deal. We were talking about
that yesterday as well, like my backyard or whatever. But
it's like this whole like we were joking about it.
But I guess there was one kid one year that
was driving the school his freshman year. He was a
star football player, but he was driving to school in

(12:19):
ninth grade. And if you do the math on that, people,
you should not be nowhere near nowhere anywhere close to
sixteen being in the ninth grade. This just shouldn't happen.
But this kid was driving to school as a ninth
grader and was a football prodigy. And a lot of

(12:43):
people are basically taking you know, taking a chance on
reclassifying their kids and then continuing to reclassify them until
they find the right school, right program, and by your
kid time to grow and mature and learn more about
the game, all because of how competitive it is trying

(13:05):
to make it to the next level. And now I
find out to be egregiously crazy, not just bad, not
just crazy, but it's egregiously bad. So you're telling me
it's okay for you, Like, think about it. Some schools
have ninth grade teams they don't even have like that.
You know, you have seventh, eighth grade, ninth grade, and

(13:25):
then you have JV, then you have you know, varsity. Right,
so you could have a kid that's literally fifteen, sixteen
years old playing against what fourteen thirteen, fourteen year.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Olds like, think about that.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I remember one year and that it's true because I
remember the one year my son was playing. There was
a kid out there and he was mowing everyone down
on both sides of the ball. He get the running
back and get the ball. He run guys over. In fact,
the kids got carted off. They had to take him
to the hospital. He gave him a concussion. My son

(14:05):
comes up to me after the game. I think I
told the story to you before. My son comes up
to me after day. He's like, Dad, I was the
only one trying to tackle him. I said, you're right,
I said, everybody else is getting that lighted the way.
He said, Dad, what are these? He said, Dad, what
are these? I said, son, those are called cleek marks.

(14:25):
He had cleak marks on.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
His on his rid.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I don't know, but when you saw him, he was
clearly at least three years older.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
And how old was your son, like twelve? They were
playing up.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
They were playing up and this kid was playing down.
But he had to have been close to sixteen. He
had to be sixteen. That's just dangerous, man. That's the point.
That's the point I'm making. There's some of those kids
aren't even developed.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Like the kid who got a concussion probably isn't even
bro gone through puberty and he's getting rich.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Kid was like yours, Johnas did you experience that?

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Did you say, there's a couple of dudes just absolutely
cracked you, and you were you got that twitch. Now
it looks like one direction goes across that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
That's why you'd be looking like that. I got a Walleye.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
I can look at you in a wall at the
same tangang.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I just thought you had a problem with me, But
he's got a problem with the wall man. Not to pivot.
But have you all seen Happy to Gilmore too? No?
I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
And the only reason that like me was because you know,
Adam Sandler casts like all his buddies to be in
all this.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Every time there's.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
That one tall guy who's got like this messed up,
you know, saying like, I think it's naturally like that.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
He's got that walleye. He was, he was a backer
in the water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Bobby, is it good?
Is Happy go more to any good man?

Speaker 5 (15:55):
I'm not wait to our movie expert league gets back.
I'm sure you've seen it a few times.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
That's what we're going before were going to depend on him.
Do you see it? No, I've not seen it yet. Okay,
here's how I describe it.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
There are people out there who thought, for some reason
that like this was going to be some cinematic genius
instead of exactly what it was the first time around,
which was like a slappy movie about golf. Right, it
was fun, it was funny, it was creative. We didn't
seen anything like it before. I mean, the problem is,

(16:29):
it's been so long since the first one came out.
I mean you've had literally like when.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
We went out of here, I mean some people aren't
even still living what.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Barker so to that point, Like, people didn't love here,
They didn't love Chubbs's son. They thought like that character
could have been more in it because he was such
a big role in the first one.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
The original came out in ninety six.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Yeah, so dude, you've had a literally a generations gone
by thirty years. So people up mad that the movie
kept referencing the first Happy Gilmore, like people didn't see it.
Like I heard someone say this, I'm like, well, yeah, idiot,
there are people who weren't even born between now and
then who are now seeing Happy Gilmore too, who need
to be reminded of all this. The worst thing they

(17:16):
probably did was kill off Veronica Vaughan or the actress
Julie Bowen, which I hate to break it again. See yeah, sorry,
but she doesn't. She doesn't make it long, and that's
disappointing because oh, she's good for she's good for the film.
But it's look, it's funny, it's entertaining. John Daly is

(17:37):
incredible in it. There are there's parts where you are like,
this is kind of cheesy, corny. There's parts that are funny,
but there's a ton of cameos. The weirdest thing though,
is they do have Bryson d. Chambeau and Brooks Koepka
almost like representing at one point in the plot representing

(17:58):
what would be the PGA two in real life against
like this other startup tour that's coming about. And so
it's just bizarre that they're like on the side of
that side, like the PGA tour side of things.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
And so I don't know.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
When this was filmed and if things were different then,
but I'm like, oh, this's is start contrast to actually
what you're doing in real life right now.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
You think that was a subtle jab at the beef
between the PGA Tour and Live.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
I don't know, because it's just it's weird that they
it played out that way in it.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
But anyway, it's fine, it's uh yeah, but it's connected
to the original, yes, very much. So I'm glad I
had that context because now what I'll do when I
get home today is I'll watch the original and go
right into the second one.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
But if you didn't see the original, you would be okay,
because they flashed back enough. I think the funniest dude,
one of the better characters is so.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Everyone thought that Caddy from the first one.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
That he had and the way he's like strangling on
the first tee, they all thought it looked like will
Zalace Horris.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
So will Zalax Horris.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Who's on the PGA tour, then plays a character like,
you know, he's a professional golfer. Now he actually grew
up and just his banter throughout the show is actually
pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
All right, Yeah, I'm gonna check it out. Yeah I do.
My kids were watching it yesterday.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I just I was, like I said, I was out
back talking smoking some stogies, but I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
They were laughing.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I'll say that, like I can hear them in there
laughing whenever watching it.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
It is Netflix.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
So my favorite part is people that because I've seen
some people be critical of it, and I'm thinking, dude,
if you have a Netflix account, you know, it's not
like you're paying to go to a theater to go
watch it, all right, You're not coming out of pocket
fifty bucks, you know, for you and whoever to get
a bucket of popcorn and a couple of drinks to
watch this movie. And then you're piss because the movie sucked.
If you don't like it, just turn it off like

(19:51):
you have Netflix. It's like the Tyson Paul fight. If
you didn't like it, it's not like you had to
pay extra for it. If you have the membership, who cares?
Why complain about it?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
He drove himself to the premiere too, which I thought
was pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Adam Sandler, Yeah, he used to, you know when I worked,
So when I worked at a TGI Fridays, he used
to come in nice swear.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
This is a true story.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
So the TGI Fridays, it was in Thousand Oaks. It
was connected to a theater. There's a theater around the
back like if you walk down like the it's like
an outdoor mall. And they would do movie premieres at
that theater and him and all those guys would come
to the restaurant coolest guys in the world, like no
deed bag, like down to earth like and not like

(20:36):
I've always heard that about him, that.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
You'll pick up games.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
He wrote me an autograph like when he was like
when he was visiting with me during the time that
he was studying for or it just came.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
To what do what he wanted to do for the
water Boy.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
We spent like two three days together and and he
comes sit with me in my locker. It was so
funny because every other word he used was a it
was profaned, like he's like, off, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I just I was like, bro, you're all right, man,
Like it's.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's cool, you know, and we'd be saying he was
he was super cool, super gracious dude. He's like the
type of dude where when you guys get done talking
and he's getting ready to leave, be like, I love you, man,
I love you too, bro, Like he's one of them
type dudes.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
And you say it and it's like you.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Felt like like, like, dude, I really don't know you
well enough to say I love you, and I ain't
the type of dude to say I love you, So
I love you and I don't know you. Well, yeah,
Adam Sadler. And here's what's weird though I meant it, Nah,
I wentn't on the inside like I hate this dude,
or like yeah, I just tell him that because he

(21:45):
said it, like he's like, man, I really love you man,
like that might.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Be some Christian Wilkins stuff for you know. Man, all right,
can we not like that? Not like that? That's a
horrible way to transition.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
That is a horrible segue off of me and Adam
Sandler saying we love each other.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
We don't know what exactly happened. Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I've just told you, but I don't we don't know
what happened with this other story exactly.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Let's let's startop. We are going to uh, it is
two Pros and a couple of like that, though we
are going to potentially recklessly speculate about a story that
is developing in the NFL that'll be yours next year
on FS.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
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Speaker 3 (22:55):
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Speaker 6 (22:56):
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Speaker 3 (23:12):
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Speaker 6 (23:13):
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So Christian Wilkins was released by the Raiders. There was
some issue with I guess they didn't like how he rehabbed,
how he handled all that. So you know he's going

(24:39):
to lose out on like thirty five million dollars of guarantees.
They're going to avoid that, and he's filed a complaint
with the NFLPA and great timing for that, seems like
that's that's going to go well. And then some stories
started to come out yesterday that maybe there was a
little bit more to the story, that maybe there was

(24:59):
other reasons why Christian Wilkins was released. According to Josina
Anderson and others, Uh, he may have also had a
quote unquote incident with a teammate that may have also
led to his release, and Raiders reporter Mitchell Wrenz called
it a very weird incident. And so some people are speculating, like, man, like,

(25:24):
what could it be? And then you start to look
up some previous highlight videos of Christian Wilkes dancing well
at Clemson. He has a certain dance style, Yeah, got
a certain certain grab style and huddles too. I mean
it's as Blayton as it gets.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
What what's this Blayton as it gets?

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Okay, there's video of him when he played at Clemson
where he literally reaches down and grabs for a guy's
junk like he's like he's picking up a bowling ball,
and last I checked, you know, there's no seven ten
split there and he's got that. He's also got the

(26:08):
other where he's reaching under the pile to grab for
Josh Allen. There's just there's humane trying to grab for Josh.
There's you find the videos. He like reaches under the
pile and Josh Allen kind of freaks out and starts kicking.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
And yelling, like what's this guy doing?

Speaker 4 (26:24):
And there's like a former teammate who was quoted as saying, yeah,
he's always been a little freaky. So I don't know
if that's attached to any of this. But since we
don't have any clear cut answers, may as well speculate,
much like everybody else, as to what the weird incident
was that would lead the Raiders to one who part

(26:44):
ways with Christian Wilkins. Seems like it seems like there's
a lot going on there.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Go I cue, yeah, thoughts, thanks guys. I have no
idea what is going on. I'm not sure if I mean, look,
if he's filing the grievance, I would assume that he's
trying to make the case that they're releasing him for

(27:11):
something other than what they're saying, that it wasn't just
about the rehab and that some incident took place. So
I can only speculate based on some of the images
I've seen. I mean, I'm just I have no idea
what direction he's going here. I have no idea, So

(27:32):
I'm not sure why I get tossed this hand grenade.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Oh y'all want me to take it? Y'all want me
to have on a hand grenade?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Mean, some of this stuff is pretty Uh.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Here's what I'd say is Pete Carroll is one of
the most accepting head coaches and people that I've been
around in regards to a head coach and.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
A football and locker room and all that.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
But there also comes a zero tolerance paul see for bs.
And there must have been some bs going on if this,
if this took place, I'll just I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I've just shown a levard two pieces of video evidence.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Those are some pretty habit incriminating Those are some pretty
incriminating deals. But I just think back to if y'all remember,
he's the one in the national they won the national title,
Clemson wins the national title, and they show him in

(28:41):
his celebratory state, and.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Let's just say it was a little and I mean
it was.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I mean, I'm not gonna play around with it. It
was zesty. It was super zesty. And it was just
one of those things where I'll ask you you're looking
at it. Listen, any dude that is doing a high
kick and grabbing his foot that's not named Spice Adams. Yeah,

(29:11):
not even Spice does that. I gotta say not. Spice
doesn't even do that, and and grabs his foot by it,
pulls it up to his head and his air and
does a full split and and like owns it like
that's something he always does. I'm I'm I'm gonna lean

(29:31):
on the side of that's a little zesty.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
I mean, it looks like he.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Said, hey girl, I mean, I mean yeah, I mean yeah,
Gillis got hold of that.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
All I'm gonna say is, if that's what it is,
that somebody wasn't liking what he was putting down or
the signal that he was pushing out there, that that's
pretty interesting. I'll go back to the idea of he
signed a really big contract with the Raiders. They probably

(30:04):
i mean one hundred percent after the injury and how
that was handled, they didn't want to pay all that money.
I think they ended up being in it for like
fifty million. I believe, like somewhere to that effect, and
trying to They were trying to get from underty five million.
They were trying to get from under all of the

(30:24):
guarantees that were were going to go to him with
the idea that they didn't want him anymore. Like, I
think that that's ultimately what it comes back to, is
they were trying to get from underneath the contract. They
did not believe he was worth the value of what
he was brought there for. I mean, look, whatever else
comes out of it from there and it is what

(30:45):
it or goes in. You know, that's that's just a
I feel like it's a different topic.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah, I'm just saying, man, Like, you know, there's you know,
there's it's fair to speculate. I mean, there's clear video
evidence of the guy reaching down and grabbing you know,
some guy's skin luggage under a pile.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Can I see your balls? I'd like to see. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
And so you're going, what what else you got?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Stop?

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Stop, don't do this, don't do this. I don't know anything.
Don't do this. Once you get on a roll, you
get out one of your unique phrases, you call something
it was super unique. What else you got?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Anything else? I got nothing? Man? I just stop. You
sick of going? Keep going?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Why did I see like a crocodile? Like text your
carrying bag? When you say that.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Skin luggage, Louis Bolton, like these are this is clearly
got another one? Come on here you got another one?
You have another one at least one. Keep going. I

(31:58):
don't have anything. What else do you have anything? Come on?
Come on you sick? Come on? Come on you got it?
Last one more? I don't know. No, I don't have
I don't have anything. Yes you do, stop lying to us.

(32:19):
I did luggage and Louis Bolton idiots. I'm just those
our shirts. By the way, those our shirts.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
We should have one of the dopest T shirt stores
ever with the sayings that come from this show, I
will understand what we don't have.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I mean, that's an excusable.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I can understand twisting and grabbing, but when you're going
out of your way to do it.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
That was weird.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
That first one you showed was a little weird, like
let me just go like maybe if I just maybe
no one.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Else see it's not even a pile. The guy's laying
on the ground. He just goes down. Go ahead and
do it. Throw it in there, throw it in there.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
That was more of a like a friendly caress too.
It wasn't like it was like the hurting or anything
like that.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
That that Phillies fan that coop showed me earlier. I
saw that. Jesus good for them. Broad Daylight. I don't
know the upper deck got down like that Broad Daylight.
I don't know if it was tasting her or she
was convulsive, or what was going on there? Tang. I'm
sure you've got some some phrase you want to drop

(33:27):
you to. What else you got? I don't know. It's
probably uh missing a watch after that? Tang, that's that's
not your best material. You know you've got more? You don't.
I can't.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
I guess, but I can't. I just can't skin. I
don't getting dumped once?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
What's wrong with you getting to keep my perfect record?
You don't have a perfect record? Yes, Wait, what has
he been dumb? I don't know. I don't think by
me he has. I don't think he has.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Actually, I think it's mostly been me for my own ignorance,
and then I think some leve art.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
I'm definitely no. I did.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
I got dumped one time back at the old studio.
What I accidentally I was trying to combine two words.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh yeah, you actually said a cuss word. I think yeah, yeah,
it didn't go well, it was intentional.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
That's all right, Just pack it away and your skin
luggage by Lewis Balton.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
An idiot. You've been waiting. You've been Here's the thing
that people don't know. Behind the scenes. You've been waiting
so long to use some of this material.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
That's hilarious, But I haven't.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I'm just, you know, simply reporting the news here.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
That's that's what makes it funny to me, but also
sad at the same time. Is you sit on some
of these names for like forever. I can't wait to
use a song radio. Yeah, this could come in handy
one day.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
That is hilarious. Last old that wy it's going to
really help out one Louis Louis Baton Bolton is really good.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
I just that's uh yeah, I don't know, really funny.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
All right, Well, I mean he gone though, I mean
he gone. The conclusion is somebody else going to pick
them up?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Way they're not. He's not gonna lose all that thirty
five million? Is he? Like? Is all that going to
be gone?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Like?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I said, I mean you you're the contract guy. I
think he's already received like fifty million if i'm if
I'm not mistaken, I know he's gotten. He's gotten there
they're getting from.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
No, well, they get thirty five more million games. There's
thirty five that they're trying to get away from. I
don't know that they get out of all of it.
But they released them.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Yeah, if they release them and they've got whatever cause
that they show that he is not you know, within
the confines of the contract, I'm sure they can.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
They can state their claim.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
And that's what's going on right now. Yeah, that's what
they're gonna know what's going on.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
They're gonna try to file the grievance and figure out
if they can. Maybe they'll settle for some amount in between.
Maybe the you know raiders hold strong and they say
no like you did not you know, do X, Y
and Z within you know, per per our contract, per
the agreement, and you know, that's that's the end of it.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
So we'll see, Well.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
There's the reason why they let them go. I'll say
that they must be Yeah, that's that's what doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Right, Like we look at the Dallas Cowboys with Trayvon Diggs,
and you know he gets pay deducted. He's got like
a de escalator in there for not rehabit. They didn't
cut them. There's there's way more to this story.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
You know.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
There's there's a black hole of information that we're gonna
have to enter into that and.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Then get some information on this. I'm not going into
that black hole. I'm gonna let y'all go to the
black hole and bring the information back to me. I'll
be waiting on y'all.

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Speaker 3 (38:03):
After your sports week out happens.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
So it's time to get the fusr IR report.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Guy, who's I got one? Yeah, I was on the airplane.
It's the airplane story. So on my way back from
Avalon which, by the way, you know, my back was
hurting because on my way there it was a quick trip.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
On my way there, if you.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Fly to Lax and you fly out of American you
might sympathize with the story, it's a long ass walk
to your gate.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Oh yeah, because of the construction or whatever.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
My back felt like I had two people sitting on
my tailbone on east side playing playing Seesaw Battle. Anyway,
on the way back, there's a girl, little girl sitting
behind me like maybe like ten eleven years old, and
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I want to like.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Be be kind of like sensitive to it because she
might have had something wrong with her, something I don't know.
But for a five hour flight, this kid kept kicking, hitting, using, abusing.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
She abused the back of my seat so bad.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I wanted to turn around and ask her, what did
the what did the back of this chair do to you?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Ever? What did what did this chair ever do to you?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
For you to abuse it the way that you didn't
and that and that's my that's I mean, I know
we don't have time for anything else, but I mean,
maybe we could continue the story it was. It was
really bad. I looked at the dad and it didn't
end well.
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