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Hey know, I gotta be honest with you. I'm looking
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through some pictures of top trees in state college.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Oh, it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Don't that's where they get you.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Don't.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Don't do that that's where they get you.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That's all beautiful place. And let me tell you something.
It's food field.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It's oh god, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Place that the fields food is phenomenal, phenomena.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I mean, the burger looks tasty.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh you've got to really wanted to bet you ever.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I feel like you've got a
really low bar. That look, the nitty line in that
place is incredible. Fire knock it down, build another version
of that.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
That's all I'm saying. Don't lose the food. I just
say food to say.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
What'd you have there?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Get a burger? I did not get a burger last evening.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I wasn't terribly hungry, you know, I went to my
go to you know, I'm a brother, got some wings, damn,
some fries and some wings. Do you eats or blue
cheese or I'm a brother eat chicken? Do you get
Do you get ranch? Or do you get blue cheese?
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If you get ranch, you should be shot and electric.
I get blue cheese. Yeah, I will from time to
time do ranch, but yeah, and even use my fries
in my ranch. But I can see that definitely when
it's a real wing, Like when you feel like you're
eating a real type of fried wing.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I go with blue cheese.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You gotta be blue cheese.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, all right, okay, all right, okay, So what are
we talking about this hour?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, we've got we got some good news.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Okay, some good news, and we got some bad news.
But let's go first.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So, you know, it was announced that the old fitness test,
you know, which I for completely forget about. I completely
forgot about this, and I think Lee reminded me a
few weeks back about doing that in elementary school where
you had to do this physical fitness test the president.
(03:09):
Is it the Presidential Fitness Test? Yes, and so I
completely forgot about it.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Go to the military, that's why you had to do it.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Hell no, they're just trying to make us make sure
we're fitting. Still, badass, man, This is awesome for America.
Put the foots, get back. These kids need to start
running a mile's to see what you got.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Do your pull ups, do your sit ups, do the
sit in reach.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
I'm so glad, yes, Weekend, Leeve, of all the things
that you should have hated about the Presidential Fitness Test,
the sit and reach should have been the one that
you actually liked the most. And you just try to
touch your toes.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
No, couldn't have never been able to touch my toes.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You have to run the mauth and it had to
be under like what like five six.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Minutes or something like that.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
No, not that fast, but it depended on the age.
So I believe it starts at fourth grade, goes to
twelfth eight minutes.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Was it eight minutes? Yeah? I think it has to be.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Under eight, but you had different requirements in order to
finish at like the top of that. And so the
pull ups or pull ups, and if you can't pull up,
I think they'll let you hang there. The sit ups
or they call them curl ups, there's that as well.
There's the mold in the sitting reach and.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
The chin ups are the palm out correct.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Well, it's pull ups, but yeah, I mean but if
you really want to get like yeah, if you care
that much.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
There was two different versions of it, you know, the
palm out of the pom in. The palm out is
always harder on the on the pull up.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well, a pull up is with your hands like turned
facing to it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I just remember they would be the other way. I just
remember they made us do. Two different versions are you
that old?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Is that what?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
No?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I just remember that grandfather clause. Look at me.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I'm stacked in Jack brother, all right, neither one of
them phase me.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
All right.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I passed the Presidential Fitness test every year.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I think it's about passing, it's about excelling. It's about
getting the top of the class.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Well, that needed some work, but listen, this is good news.
I had no idea they had gotten rid of this.
I just assumed that that was still a thing.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But have you noticed that with all the kids now
having a hard time, I.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Should have put two and do it together. But I
think they got rid of it back in twenty thirteen,
was what I read. That's the last time they had it.
So it's been a long ass time since kids have
been asked.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I didn't know. That's not that long ago. Actually, I
would have thought it had been longer than that. Yeah,
twenty thirteen is not that long. So I feel like
this was something that was gone in like the nineties.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
I did it in twenty eleven.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Did you pass? Yeah? I was fit back then.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
You were in high school in twenty eleven.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I like to touch your toes test because I was
a dancer so I was always like I can reach
farther than you.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You were a dancer, like intro music dancer.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Damn no, oh she's a private dancer, dancing.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Pri now. Uh. President Trump yesterday made the announcement.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
He was obviously there, flanked by luminaries like Triple H
of the w w EE to try and to.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Can you please name everyone who was there? Because what
a group?
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Like what a what a group of people of random
selection that they've put together for this?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Well, I mean Triple H was there. Harrison Butker is
also on the council. Lawrence Taylor. Saquon Barkley was there also.
Trump made sure to mention the Dolphins quarterback who's also
part of this council, to uh.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Tag Volley when he's not injured, to one board, tag
oh Volley when he's not injured.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
What's so funny?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
More time? By one more time?
Speaker 8 (07:26):
Tag oh Volley when he's not injured.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
He's great. You put on your belly to lose weight?
Is that what you used to lose weight? What's so funny?
La bar?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Why that like a la that the name for that
lap band to keep you from being able to eat too?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Why are you laughing at our president like that. Once
you have more and more classroom respect. He's trying to
get some of these fat asses off their iPads. That's
get him on getting on a chin up bar.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I'm not mad at it, but dang, I thought I
messed up with or It's bad.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
All right, tag oh volley Ah, when he's not injured.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I mean he does make a point when he's not injured. Uh,
they're they're pretty good, so he does make a It
does make a fair point there. It's listen. It's a
difficult day, all right, Like I don't you know some
people have struggled with that. But this is good news, man,
and people are gonna get I'm sure somebody will be
outraged by it. Somebody will feel like this is you know,
inappropriate and you're uh, you're you know, trying to out kids,
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et cetera, et cetera. Somebody would be bothered by this.
I'm sure somebody's been outraged by this. Somebody will, you know,
take that.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You have to be able to do physical activities.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Crazy man, they're bringing like Jim back to gym class
where you're not just like hanging out, you know, for
an hour.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I'll never understand when I heard people say I failed Jim.
That was like supposed to be your easy A on
your report card. How do you fail jin Jim? Kickball?
You know what else do you do in gym?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Tag?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Captured a flag? Come on?
Speaker 7 (09:15):
I had a semester of juggling. I had a juggle.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
What did you juggle?
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Juggled a bunch of balls? Yeah, yeah, there's a did
the diabolos? You juggled the Diabolos?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
What? Lee, what do you mean that's a class?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
One of the semesters of physical ed of PE was juggling,
And uh, that's weird. You learned different types of juggling.
You learn, you know, the ball, the diablo that.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
You juggled a lot of balls, Lee, We don't have
that in the Midwest. They don't have any any juggling.
It's just real sports with balls.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
How many balls can you juggle?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
One?
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Where did you go?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Clown?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Where'd you go? Clown? College?
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Three? I can do three. I killed it on the test.
I wasn't really good, but for some reason I got.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
In the zone on So basically.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
No, it just went really long. Duggle them for a
long time. I don't for a long time. I did
I beat a hundred?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
How is that? How was that fizzed?
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You beat a hundred?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
What?
Speaker 7 (10:18):
I don't know. I juggled it other times?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
How is that considered pe that?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Well? We did that.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
We also did like you got Lancerong Lance Armstrong another guy.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I just I've never heard of that in my life.
So we so we got rid of the chin up,
pull up, stretch to your toes test that Lee could
go juggle somebody's balls.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It was the same time some would say them balls
end up there with that chin up?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Now, Lee, is it true you had to do part
of that blindfolded?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Yeah, extra you get extra points for that one.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
On your back, Lee, I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Understand on a curve what do you mean by that?
Did you have to do it while you reach and
touch your toes? I've never heard of that in my life.
That's that's absolutely bizarre. And was that Sherman Oaks Notre Dame? Uh?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
This was uh No, this was middle school down the
street from Notre Dame, the Funal School to Notre Dame
High School.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And and Gen Carlos Stanton had to do the same test.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
No, that I went to high school with Gen. Carlo
didn't go to middle school with him, but he might have.
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
He probably could juggle, by the way, a little piece
of history for him. You know what's interesting about uh
them bringing back this fitness test is because it's Donald Trump.
Like everyone's gonna have an issue with it. Do you
want to know who initially brought this program? I'm pretty
sure it's JFK. Are you sure I saw JFK on this?
Speaker 7 (12:05):
I saw Eisenhower fifty six.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Okay, Well, which side of the isle was Eisenhower on?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I don't know, Lee, I don't know. Once you stop
John by the way, Lee, double check on that. I
think it might be jfkse program.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Mind you.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
The whole point is like this should be something that
like everyone should be, like.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Let's let's try to be healthy, try to be fit,
especially for our kids.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I mean, look, they just want to spend time on
the iPad. That's all they care about. Like it's not
it's not about getting out there. I swear to God,
I go to parks all the time with my son.
I hardly ever see anybody out there. I hardly ever
see anybody out there. People just aren't into it anymore,
you know, who's into it though, Seed Lamb, so Brian
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Schottenheimer and the Cowboys. Uh, he got pissed at his
team because they were throwing down up and knock snart
as Brady calls it, and they were fighting in practice,
and so Brian Schottenheimer said, you guys want to fight,
let's fight. He made him run, made him run their
asses into the ground and fighting. Yeah, Cede Lamb was
a big fan of it.
Speaker 9 (13:14):
Listen, do we want to be champions? Because like throughout
the years of us being here, talent was never the
problem for us. It was always discipline. How do we
get ahead and not behind? You know what I'm saying.
How do we not shoot ourselves in the foot? How
do we not how do we not hurt ourselves obviously
when the momentum is going our way, like we need
to continue to keep out foot on the pedal and
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make the right play and always think about the team.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I mean, it sounds like a little shots fired at
Mike McCarthy, but nonetheless he didn't mind it and make
them make them run out there. You know, things are changing, man,
People are going to start to get into better shape
in this country. I'm telling you things.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Are that's interesting because Bill Belichick used to enjoy watching
his guys fighting practice, just saying.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I think I think all the coaches like seeing that
sort of competitiveness and spirit about guy like players.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Like.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Don't get me wrong, they don't want guys breaking their hands,
throwing punches or things, you know, distracting from practice.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
But to your point, especially if it's in the trenches.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
I don't think they mind that, you know sometimes or
like we get some DV coaches who want to see
that too, you.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Know, little fire starting to fight. I was known for
it if we came out flat.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
If that's what Ross Tucker said, Okay, moving on, there
we go.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I refuse to give him any more light on trying
to build his career off of talking about fighting me,
So I'm not even going to reference it that dude
has built an entire career off of talking about a
story that he totally does not remember correctly.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Really well, only thing.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I was, I was there, and this man tells me
in my face when we're discussing the story, you must
have CTE.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
You can't remember. He's like I was saying, a lineman,
I'm a lineback.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
And he tells you where you did the radio show
from an Isle. It's it's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
That too.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
It's weird, man, I'm not giving that anyway. I used
to start fights when we came out and guys weren't
interested there. There are those days where you get on
the field and you clearly can see a lack of urgency,
a sense of urgency, and the approach, the lather isn't there,
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the energy is low, and the best way to the
One thing you will never see is a lack of
competitiveness after a fight. Every time you have a fight,
it's like, okay, you want to go there, you want
to take it there. Then the level of competition it raises.
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I don't know why it is, but that's just what
the result is. So every once in a while, like
it's like, okay, you'd be like, all right, who were
going to get today? Who am I going to get today?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
All right?
Speaker 6 (16:08):
By the way, further research on the Presidential Fitness Program,
Lee didn't.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Read through this.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
So Eisenhower actually started this council, but it was JFK
that actually instituted and standardized the fitness tests.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
For the youth.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So so there you go, Lee.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
I know you're busy with your slushy or whatever you're doing.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
But oh, come on, give me, give me some credit.
Eisenhower established the Presidential Council of Youth Fitness in nineteen
fifty se They didn't.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Do anything with the test though, dude, that's why again
they're giving credit to RFK, is trying to give credit
to JFK.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Do you get the theory here?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Lee?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Are you catching on top?
Speaker 10 (16:44):
No?
Speaker 7 (16:44):
I get it now. Okay, I'm sorry I didn't read
through the entire fitness test here.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Sorry you didn't read. You didn't read after the first sentence.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, that's that's yeah, you get it together with your
thick Tom.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Just go get a slushy. Go get a little slush
with a beer or whatever it was, slushy.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Your big tug ass.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I'll make you a slushy.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, you guys doing you're doing a slushies in the
other room. Are they slushies or is it y?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
What do you call these? Shaved ice? Shaved ice?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You're gonna put a little, uh, little booze in there.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
I wish ran out of the emergency stash so you
will stash.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I just saw.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You stash a flask to go into a movie theater.
But you never bring I've never seen you pop a
flask out at the station.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
I'm very sneaky, sneaky. No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
So you do bring a flask to the studio.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
No, I do not.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But why would you bring the flask in most other
places and not the studio?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Why would you need a flask? He's had an IV
drift next to them, straight bombay sapphire.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
We're doing some tiger's blood right now.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I mean, if you had to be honest right now,
if you add a little mini bottle, would you throw
it in one of those shaved ices right now?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Is it Friday? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, sure, if I had one,
Will you have a mini bottle? Lye yes? No? Truth
in the car?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You are so full of it. You know you've got
a mini bow in your car or something right now? No,
I do not.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
You don't have a fly.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
You keep an emergency one. You told us that.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
I told you I used the emergency the other day
for one of them. Out of emergencies, I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Know, I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
It sounds like it's a really big emergency.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
I was at the pool, I need I needed a drink.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Why why? Why was it an emergency. I was getting gas,
I was waiting for stuck in traffic, waiting for the pump.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Yeah, I was a stuff side.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
No, I do not drink and drive.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So you have no booze on you whatsoever. Not in
your car, nope, not in your bag, nope. I find
that hard to believe.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I do too. I don't believe that.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, it was my deadline.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
It was my dad's birthday, us for the old man's birthday.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I don't believe.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
When was your dad's birthday? Yesterday? Tuesday?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Lion.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
You're probably still hung over from that.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I haven't.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
I know, I haven't been drinking this week.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
His dad's birthday did not like not like every day
this week.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
I mean one day. Yeah, trag for dead.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
What's your dad's real birthday?
Speaker 7 (19:15):
It's the Tuesday. It's Tuesday, twenty night. What day, July
twenty ninth.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
So there you go.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yeah, heavy belated buddy.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, happy birthday, pops, Happy birthday debt.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
All right, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Well that sounds like so there there.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
That was the last of the booth.
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Speaker 3 (20:10):
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Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, settle up, partners, tighten them their checks.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
It's the topic.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Roundout and away we go, brown up and we start
in Baltimore. Big night for Jim Harbaugh. Last night. John
Harbaugh has got a big time quarterback named Lamar Jackson.
He was on This is Football with Kevin Clark and
he spoke about the historical LJ eight.
Speaker 11 (21:43):
I think from a football standpoint, just go to the
most basic simple thing. Lamar is a passer. He is
a He is a historically good passer. And that's really
quite a statement because of the of the narrative that's
been surrounding him ever since the beginning. Lamar Jackson can
throw football. He can throw it every kind of way
you make, every kind of throw, any kind of way
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you want. He's as good as any guy, any passer
that has ever been and I think now the numbers
are proven that. So that's the thing I'm kind of
kind of a little bit proud of, but also a
little bit like, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
What have we learned from that?
Speaker 11 (22:14):
You know, you can take a big picture, you can
say from a society standpoint, football standpoint, what have we
learned from that? What kind of question do we ask ourselves?
But Mark Jackson as a passer is is historically great?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Sticking up?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I mean, are there that many people that have disputed that?
I think one of the things that.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
You know, people have pointed out over the time in
his career in the NFL is they haven't really had
a consistent wide receiver play. And I think part of
the issue is he's so extraordinary running the football and
has been so productive running the football that it also
takes away from his ability to throw or make throws
at times. But I do I do believe talking to
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some different decordinators in the league, they believe if you
can stop him from running and keep him in the pocket,
that gives you the best chance of beating him. And
so if they're saying that, it probably means they feel
like that's the lesser of the two, you know, attributes
as far as what he's good at.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
So take that however you want it.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
But it's odd that we need to keep, you know,
figuring out how different ways of telling this guy how
good he is as a quarterback, considering he's won the
MVP now what two, three times, whatever it's been. I mean,
and the crazy part is is his numbers were way
better than Josh Allen's last year. Like you could make
the case the year Lamar won what two years ago,
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Josh Allen should have won it that year and this
past year Lamar should have won it, and instead Josh
Allen won it, even though the pass numbers were flip
floff for both those players.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I mean, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You know, guy, he's a quarterback and he's an elite quarterback. Uh,
he's on the elite level of Patrick Mahomes if you
ask me, I think there's only a handful of guys
that you can say are upper rechalance talents in the
National Football League, and he's one of them. So wherever
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it is, people want to lob their criticisms or want
to you know, take a stand to have something to say.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I mean, they're going to have something to say. I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
He's too good for me to even jump into the
conversation and try to further it one way or the other,
you know, any type of way. I think you you
touched on it, you captured it. But he's just too elite,
you know. And by the way, those MVP awards you're
talking about, didn't he do it consecutively as well? Like
didn't he do back to back years where he got MVP.
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I do believe you know. That's yeah, I'm glad his
coach believes in them and feels that way about him.
It's good for probably Lamar to herrit it's good for
his teammates to hero, It's good for the community to
hear it. It's just a rallying call. Oh that's all.
We know who our quarterback is and we love them.
That's what it comes across too.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Is fine for me.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
He also seems like one of those guys who and
not that you know, other quarterbacks don't hear this. You
do get the well hasn't won a Super Bowl yet,
like you do get one of those with Lamar every year. Yeah, well,
he can do it here, but he can't do it there.
And there's been times where they've had home field advantage.
Look a couple of years ago when they're, you know,
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a four to four and a half point favorite against
Kansas City and they lay an egg like that, and
the way that looked. There's some people who, no matter
how good he is in the regular season, they're still
just going to judge him on the postseason. And it's
like he's not had good performances in the postseason, but
there's been some ugly ones. And for a lot of
people out there, they like to hold onto their opinions,
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hold on to their takes. And there's some people out
there who just view Lamar Jackson as a regular season
quarterback who's never going to be able to win in
the postseason. I think we put a little bit too
much into that personally. I think the regular season counts.
I think a lot of things have to go your
way in the postseason. But like I'll ask you, guys,
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Jalen Hurts has been to two Super Bowls and one
one and played phenomenally in the other one. Who you
taking to start your team right now? Hurts are Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Lamar Jackson, I'm not engaging in that one. Why not
because I'm not Why because I'm not.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I'm not an either or GW on this topic. I'm
not going. I'm not going. I'm not going to do
that one.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
So Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Either one, either one. Let's move on. Let's move on,
let's move on.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, speaking of quarterbacks Indianapolis, you got Anthony Richardson, you've
got Daniel Jones, and you've got Chris Ballard. Earlier this week,
talking with Zach Keeper of The Athletic and basically pointing
out that if he had to do it all over again,
he would have let Anthony Richardson maybe wait a little bit,
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maybe wait to incorporate him into the NFL. But he
pointed out that because of the pressure from one Jim Mersay,
the late Great Jim Irsay, they felt like they had
to play Richardson early, and thus, if he could go
back and do it all over again, although they're not
completely out on Anthony Richardson, he wishes they would have
been a little bit more patient and kind of slowly
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brought him up as opposed to thrusting him in there
as a starter from day one.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
I mean, this is the least shocking thing I've heard
someone admit one. Chris ballad doesn't have any control over that.
He's the general manager. That would be Shane Steichen or
you know whoever, the head coaches and their coaching staff.
But the thing I'd say is, he started one season
of football at the college level.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Of Course he needed more development. Of course he needed
more time.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
I don't know why, you know, And we're going into
what year three now with Anthony Richardson, and it feels
like it's a revelation to everyone that he wasn't just
going to walk in the league.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
And light world on fire.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
You would see those incredible plays and you see the
upside in his talent, but you also see the low
end of things, and really that's just a quarterback who's
continuing to develop and continue to grow. So I just
I have no idea why an organization, He's got a
lot of smart people that are involved didn't look at
drafting Anthony Richardson and say to themselves, this is going
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to take time.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
It may take us to year three of him playing
a lot and us.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Still figuring out what he is as a quarterback because
of the lack of experience at the college level even before.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That, it's a very unforgiving league. And either you swim
or you sink. Either you run with the wolves and
you run with the back, or you get left behind.
So he's got to keep up and he's got to
play out a higher level or he will turn into
(28:56):
a distant memory of You remember when we used to
have this segment where we did topic roundups and we
were talking about Anthony Richardson and how they they felt
like they thrusted him into a situation. Like man, people
become past stories all the time. So it was up
to Anthony Richardson to figure it out. Fump all these
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other people that need to help them figure it out. Sure,
they need to help, he needs help, but Anthony Richardson
is the person that needs to figure out what he
needs to do to have success.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Or that tran Yeah, that trac.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Next up, LaVar. If you weren't into the Lamar Jackson
Jalen hurts debate, You're gonna be into this one, all right,
because we better hope that the Minnesota Vikings new black
on black crime. All right, Well, if we better help
that the Minnesota Vikings have themselves a decent year, So
hopefully fans of Minnesota can forget all about what the
(29:57):
hell the Minnesota Twins are doing. You talk about fire sales,
We've got fire sales. I believe eleven players on the
Twins were traded at the MLB trade deadline, which concluded yesterday. No, no,
Kirby Pucket not and was not a part of any
of the deadline deals yesterday. Neither was Chuck Knoblock. Yeah, no,
(30:20):
neither was LaTroy Hawkins. Eddie Gardatta was not a part
of any of those deadline deals as a player yesterday.
With the Minnesota Twins a full blown fire sale, now,
I reached out to the King of Minnesota, our Lord
and savior, Scott Shapiro to ask his thoughts on it,
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and believe it or not, he was happy with it. Said,
do you know what, they recognized they're not a legitimate contender.
And so if you got to get rid of a
bunch of guys and you want to go in this
direction and do a full blown rebuild, now is as
good a time as ever. But if you're a fan
of the Twins, how the eff are you showing up
to target field to watch these games.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
What they need to Chicago fan.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Damn, he's a beating down man. He's a beating down fan.
That's what happens. That's what happens. When when this happens
these did I see this correct? They have two players?
Is in Minnesota only has two players who were under
contract a next year's.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Roster at Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I believe so.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
And that's wild, that's wild to think about.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Okay, what is that ever ever happened in sports where
you literally had two players under contract that's.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
It next season.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I didn't even know that was possible.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
It's possible, it just happened.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I mean, if you're gonna go all out on a
fire sale, go all out on a fire sale.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Like I mean all literally all out, everyone is out.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I mean, you could do what the Marlins did. The
Marlins waited until they conned everybody into paying for the
stadium to be built there that looks like a bounce house,
and then they went and traded away everybody they signed
the offseason before.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
So you could do that, but they kind of did
that in DC too, right.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
You can knock you can knock them for the way
they did it, but that stadium's nice. You really, Yeah,
go see a Marlins game. You can go buy a
cheap seat and set wherever you want.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, it does seem like you know, plenty of seats
available there when you want to go see the Marlins.
So that'll conclude this week's edition of the topic line up.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Here on That's it. Yeah, that's it. We don't have
time for much more.
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Speaker 2 (33:15):
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and Jimmy Garoppolo are teammates again this time with the Rams.
By the way, Jimmy Garoppolo, who knows, might see a
little bit more of him than some people expected. If
Matthew Stafford's back injury or whatever the hell's going on
there doesn't start to heal up pretty quick here. But
there was the thought that when DeVante Adams was playing
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with Jimmy garoppolo in Las Vegas with the Raiders, that
he was not happy about Jimmy Garoppolo's his quarterbacks, some outbursts,
some things stuff out there. I think it was also
featured maybe on the Netflix show he was unhappy with
certain things with Garoppolo. Well, Deavante Adams was on with
ESPN Los Angeles earlier this week and he tried to
explain that situation.
Speaker 10 (34:55):
I love Jimmy and it was never a personal thing,
and it's been amazing. We got to, you know, catch
up and get on the right page. And obviously that
was just a dark moment in all of our lives.
I think all of us were pretty miserable over there,
and we kind of caught up and laughed about it,
and we've been making place since we've been out here,
so it's been fun.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
So apparently miserable in Las Vegas where they were both
playing at Oh okay, that was back under it.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Yeah, that was back under Josh Betaniels too, I believe, right. Yeah,
So I think that's part of it. I mean one
of the things i'd say, and I was listening to
a Pete Carroll lecture yesterday talking about the differences in
coaching styles and how you can have like an authoritative
kind of coach that basically almost like when you enlist
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in the military, right, they're gonna, you know, dress you down,
make you all put on the same thing, you know,
buzz your heads and make you kind of conform to
their way to be a good soldier. Or there's the
other end of the spectrum where you kind of identify,
you know, the individual characteristics, teach them how to think
independently but work together and just you know, it's two
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different schools of thought. And I feel like the New
England coaching style is one where that if you're miserable,
they're like, that's okay, it's tol should be like winning
is awesome and it's incredible, but you got to be
miserable doing it.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
And I played for enough to know like that's kind of.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
How they preach it, like I remember distinctly Josh Daniel's
talking about how hard being a part of Super Bowls
were with the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
And how life was miserable but it was all worth it.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
And then you get to someone like Pete Carroll, who's
won super Bowls, who's won national championships, and he's like, no,
this should be enjoyable, Like you should wake up excited
about competing, excited about working and trying to improve yourself
in every way possible every single day. And it pains
for me to say that about a guy that I
had to go up against at Southern Cow. But he
had a completely different philosophy and the way he looked
at it, and it's also super successful when you look
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at his run and what he's been able to do. So,
you know, I think for you know, Devonte Adams and
Jimmy Garoppol, I'm sure with Sean mcvayh the way he
preaches and coaches different uplifting experience. But I'd be curious
to see if they're back in with Las Vegas now,
you know how they view Pete Carroll's you know, culture
and his regime that he's you know, created there and
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what it feels like to be a player there.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, sometimes it's just personally driven, Like it's interesting. I
think that just from what I know or what I
information that I have seen, Like Davonte Adams is a passive,
aggressive dude, and and so I just take it at
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face value, like until the situation presents itself where it's
easy to say, this is a better situation, that's what
he'll do. If it's if it's convenient to say you
were miserable, he was miserable, that's what he'll do. Just
comes across as a very disingenuous and a very selfish dude.
(37:55):
And my estimation, and you know that's that's not always
that I'm not going to say always. That's never really
the type of teammate you want to have. You know,
I don't I don't like fair weather friends. I don't
even like fair weather family. So let alone a teammate
I don't I don't like I don't deal in fair weatherness.
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And and Davante Adams comes across as a fair weather
why you're type of dude?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
So you wouldn't want Devonte Adams as a teammate.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
No, hell no, I wouldn't want him on my team.
I wouldn't want him on my team. That's just how
That's just my take on Davante Adams. So I just
have one of my team. I throw that dude every
single play, so you can have him. Yeah, I gladly.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Adams beat y'all seven days the week, twice on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
He'll sell you, you know, to Devanta Adams. Worry though,
I'd have your back, but he'll sell.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
You to his defense though. The Raiders he was signing
up for, and the Raiders he got two different things. Uh,
you know, the decision to move on from Derek Carr,
which is the reason he came to Las Vegas to
be with the Raiders and all that just a little
bit of a little bit of a mess out there
in Las Vegas. So maybe things have changed.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Sometimes you can be a personal mess too.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna attack his character.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I think that's I mean, you could hey, look, look,
you could do your You're you're fine, take your fine.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
What a passive aggressive you right there with him? Damn
y'all be passive aggressive together. Da