Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Monday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jerry Jones is the constant with the Cowboys dysfunction. Browns Beat Reporter, Mary-Kay Cabot has jokes for Bill Belichicks. Jelly Roll stars in SummerSlam. ESPN acquires The NFL Redzone, but please don’t mess it up!  And a Special Monday appearance from The Old P, Petros Papadakis to talk USC projections and history lessons.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Aarings and rating Wind and Jonas Knox on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
The hell was that fruitfly? Oh? Yeah, there's nats in
there for some reason. Go figure. Have you looked around?
Are they falling? Lee around?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
No?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Okay, brou I'm not even going to put this on Lee.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'll say this. I'll say this. The way.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
This this, this place looks like there's going to be.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
More than that.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
You know what's use by the way. You won't see
me if I see a rat or if it's I'm out.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know what's impressive about this place. There's every type
of cleaning product.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
You could think of, and nobody using people, but just.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Like full full sanitizers. Uh, this thing's filled to the
I use this, yeah. But other than that, Yeah, this place,
I'm just saying, it's a war zone and filth. I
don't know, man, I don't want to get into all
of it because I don't want to have to have
no calls or anything. But I didn't do it, so

(01:22):
I don't I don't you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I don't think anyone blame you. Man. You're you're a
very hygienic clean guy, I really am. I'm not. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
I'm not even in here a lot anymore. Who would
you blame Brady if he had.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well, I mean I can't put all on Loreno, but
I mean Loreno would be part of that crew.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Maybe Lee, I mean Ray Ray Studio, Ray Ray. I'm
just saying, like, you got to keep Lee in live.
We know he's pig pen so yes, but you know
he's actually very considerate, especially about the trash cans in here,
which is where the fruit flies come from. Okay, you
say that.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
You say that, yet his butt is constantly leaking and
he you up in that studio all the time. So
how is he considering?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Hey, what did he say on the show? I mean,
there's clearly like there's light saw in here.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Like you said, there's a gazillion hand sanitizers in there.
I'm just it's just so messy and junkie in here.
I don't know, man, Yeah, some's got to change here.
Your working conditions can't be like this anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Hey, as long as it sounds good, as long as
they pay you, right, that's that's the most important thing.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
And what what your what's your work? And that is
that is a good point.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, it was officially the last weekend without football, but
it was not the last time we'll hear of drama
involving the Dallas Cowboys in a contract, and the Dallas
Cowboys have figured it out in Micah Parsons does not
want to be a cowboy, at least according to what
he put out on social media on Friday. Its basically

(03:10):
just said, yeah, I'm good here. I felt like he
was disrespected, et cetera, et cetera. And so Jerry Jones
was up an Oxnard and he was having this fruitful
literally that's aggressive. This thing almost went in my mind aggressive,
it's give this thing really is aggressive.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, get him Jesus Christ. Elusive.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
All right, So Jerry Jones, maybe it was Jerry sentiment.
But Jerry Jones spoke in Oxnard on Friday, reached and
he was definitely definitely a little pissy when the conversation
turned to the Micah Parsons trade request.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
I'm starting negotiations in March, I said, I started negotiation
in March, and I've negotiated double handfuls and contracts just
like I did in March. He thought it was again
again again, but again, are you asking me, Yeah, I
started that in March. I goest together in a negotiations associating.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
The meeting is about leadership, not about his contract.

Speaker 7 (04:11):
It's my answer. It's my answer.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
I was negotiating in March, as always in any relationships
or different moods at different times of your relationship, that's
what it is. Don't lose in sleepover to Jerry, one
thing I would say to our fan, don't lose in sleepover.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Just to be clear, you don't feel the relationship has a.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Change at all from the Super Bowl Big twelve.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
Again, I know my attitude, and my attitude is the
same one I've had. I think the world of Micah.
He's an outstanding player. He can really help us, but
he's got to fit in with what's in the best
instance of the team, and that's what the negotiation is
all about.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
So Jerry Jones discussing the Micah Parsons situation in Auxnard.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Why is it so difficult for them?

Speaker 5 (05:00):
I mean, you look at other organizations who are able
to pay their top players and get business done. Let's
just say, I don't know, Philadelphia. That seems to be
like a team that's won the Super Bowl signed guys
back builds up rosters that are able to get to
multiple Super Bowls. They don't ever have it, at least
doesn't feel like they have as much drama in the

(05:21):
offseason in regards to their top players. Now, Dallas Cowboys
fans may take issue with that, but I would say
between dak CD, Micah, you can go back to Zeke,
it's always something.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And look, Philly has had their moments.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Where they've been frustrated with all Nick Sirianni's success, like
it wasn't good enough, or they've questioned if Jalen Hurts
was good enough, even though he's never given them anything
other than playing through injuries a reason to believe. Otherwise, Yeah,
played Mahomes in the first Super Bowl, you know, obviously
played fantastic this past month every single time. So just

(06:01):
using that if that's the bar, And I think Jerry
Jones talks about winning super Bowls. Every team talks about that,
but for the Dallas Cowboys in particular, because that's in
your division as well. Just look, just look a little
bit Northeast and you never have a team that deals
with this sort of drama like.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
The Cowboys do.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
So either he's just tired of listening about it, and
the deal's gonna get done soon, or maybe there's more there.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I don't know, but there's.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
A I mean, there's a lot of that whole March
meeting and negotiations backstory from all accounts.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, like he offered a contract. He said he offered
him a nice contract, a fair contract. But he offered
him a contract. It's like it's basically being put out there.
He didn't want to talk to the agent. He doesn't
want to negotiate with the agent, and that's from his mouth.
I think those are his words. I don't think he's
talked to the agent. He doesn't want to talk to

(06:54):
the agent.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Which I mean, here's here's what I'd say about that,
is because he he gave out the example of dealing
with Des Bryant and then that became a thing because
he talked about jay Z and rock Nation and Des
bryan before that contract. So again, just another example of
a contract where there was drama. And I look, I

(07:17):
can understand the respective of a guy who's a billionaire.
That's like, I don't want to talk to the guy
who's ultimately I mean, the agent can say whatever he
wants Ultimately, the player has to say, Okay, let's go,
let's sign the steal. Is that is that accurate? You
gotta talk to the agent. Man Like, I won't put
it this way. I just went through a situation with

(07:37):
the house. I didn't try not to talk to the agent.
I cut out one of the agents. I will usually
just say act as a dual agent, but I'll kind
of represent myself in this.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I do it all the time.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I don't agree with you, but standard procedure and protocol
as it has historically applied, you talk to the agent.
That you talk to the agent, the agent goes back
to the player, talk to the player whatever to play.
Either the player is saying get the deal done and
bring me the deal, or some players want to be involved.

(08:08):
But general generally speaking, he can't be green to the
idea that I talked to the agent and the agent
takes the information back to the player. So I feel
like that's not it's it's you know, why not just
talk to the agent. If the player wants you to
talk to the agent, talk.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
To the agent. Well, he gave you the reason.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I mean, I mean, if you if you read what
he said about the des Brian situation. He said, agents
are great when you're getting the contract done. Then as
soon as they need to call him about an issue
with the player, they never pick up, Which I.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Mean, I don't feel like that justifies one to the other. No,
it probably doesn't, but there's some truth to that, you know,
it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I'm not a fan of agents, so I'm not and
I'm definitely not a fan of MIC's agent, so I'm
not even in the conversation to support or defend anything
that has to do. There's maybe a handful of agents
that I think are okay people, but.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I believe it at Stale, you got to use your representation.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Jerry Jones is the common denominator in all of this.
It's not I mean players have come and gone, agents
have come and gone. It's Jerry Jones.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Does this feel different though than it feels a little
different man?

Speaker 6 (09:24):
To me?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
It does.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
It has a little bit of a different like there's
a little bit more like Venom connected to this one.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, Like I just the Dak and the de and
maybe it's how Dak and des Bryant sort of reacted
during their negotiations, But this one feels like Mike has
definitely taken it purpose.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Then de respond to Jerry Jones saying what he said
about then go and bos life basically like keep my
name out your mouth. Well that kind of what he said.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, yeah, he just said he didn't want to Hi.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, he said, be careful about opening up that box
because then the stories can go both ways.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Whatever that means. Yeah, I was saying that Micah. Micah
wasn't what what was our debate about. Micah's just it's
just coming. The contract is coming. He's looking well, he's
not looking for it. It's going to find him or
something to that effect. It hasn't aged well.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Because now he's looking elsewhere. Yeah for that God, yeah,
hasn't aged well. Mike has definitely taken it personal.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Like you can tell just by the messaging everything that
he hurt by it.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, I think to say taking it personal, I
think give it more context. This is this has hurt,
This has hurt his feelings, This has hurt him. Now
people might say, well, I ain't. No, feelings shouldn't be involved,
and they shouldn't to a certain degree, but in sports,
feelings are a part of it, and feelings should be

(11:00):
a part of it. When you want to understand why
an organization may win or may lose, why they may
have success or have failures. It's because the people that
you employ that work for your organization take a sense
of a feeling of pride and ownership over their job

(11:20):
and what their job represents to the success of the organization.
When you make people feel the way that they feel.
And this is clearly, this is clearly a situation where
the employee has the value that he's he's seeking in
comparison to the compso of the other guys that have

(11:41):
gotten contracts. It shouldn't it shouldn't have come to this,
and if you were going to take this much time
to get it done, I think the biggest era here
is is that is that the communication is taking place
through the media. It's like Jerry Jones and the Dallas

(12:06):
Cowboys enjoy taking the communication of what's going on and
what's taking place through the media, and.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Some people just aren't. They're not built like that.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
They don't they don't take somebody negotiating and using the
negotiating tactics where maybe it's a little bit diminishing on
the person or or it impacts the person in a
way in the public where you know, Mike is getting
attack right now, people are attacking him on social media
and different things like that. When there's contract situations, athletes

(12:41):
are always targeted. Never get that, man, The athletes are targeted.
And I just don't I don't understand why you would
allow one of your beloved players, one of you, you're
arguably your best player, to be in a situation where
he says what he says. And now the damage is
done the dat you get a contract done, there's still

(13:04):
there's going to be residual damage from what's taking place
right now. Just knowing how Mike is, He's ultra competitive,
He's a super loving, caring, loyal dude.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's his way.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I know for certain there is going to be a
residual Like for instance, I think what the biggest residual
effect will be is maybe the hard feelings. You know,
they dissipate, but the trust isn't there anymore. And and
the worst thing that could ever happen it happened to
me as a player. When you have that naiveness of

(13:42):
that fine line between keeping it business and trying to
figure out if you're a family. The hardest lesson I
learned is that You're not a family. This is a business,
so handle it as a business, and what comes along
with that is what comes along with it. Have you
talked to him, I'll remain silent on that. I don't

(14:06):
you know, you know, I just know this. I know
that he wants to be a Dallas Cowboy. I know
that it it is. It is not, it is not.
He's not happy with being in the situation that he's
in in terms of how it resonates with the fans.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Because I think everybody's in agreement that this deal should
be done and nobody can really figure out why it's
not other than well, the Dallas Cowboys just like to
operate this way. But even then, you know, the community,
lack of communication, all that stuff to go along with it.
I'm just I just I'll throw this out there as
maybe a possibility because Albert Breer has hinted about this

(14:51):
in the past that we've talked to him. Jane Slater
pointed this out when she was talking about it on Friday,
that you know, he's been somewhat difficult behind the scenes,
that there's some people in the organization who have who
in recent years have gone to the organization and just said, hey,

(15:11):
you got to do something about him, the way that
he communicates, the way he acts going on his podcast.
Remember Malie Cooker was critical of the comments he was
making on his podcast. There's some people that think, well,
he's gotten better in recent months. But is that because
he's looking for a new contract. I don't know that
that warrants them not wanting to pay the guy, but

(15:32):
maybe that's the reason for the hesitation on their heads.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
So okay, but let's I know, I know, and I've
heard that, and people can go back to Penn State
and there is some things then, but what I'd say
is to that this organization signed Greg Hardy.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I agree, Okay, thank you.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Greg Hardy agreed full well, knowing everything that he was
alleged accused of all that.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
So you can't really use.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
That card if you're the Dallas Cowboys, only because you
have done this in the past constantly. I just I
can't take that as a explanation for Jerry Jones. I'm sorry,
and I'll go back to this. It's him, It's Jerry Jones.
He's always the common denominator in this entire issue that

(16:26):
the Dallas Cowboys have dragging their feet to do these deals,
and I don't know if it's because they're a scarred
doing the Exek Elliott deal early and we've seen it
change since then. I'm not sure what conclusion you draw to,
but at this day and age, and given Jerry Jones's age,

(16:46):
you would think that he would want to do everything
he could to not create drama put his team in
a position to win a Super Bowl, And instead they've
got these contract issues that continue to pop up year
after you You've got a head coach and Brian schottheim
our first time head coach, that look, maybe it is
his time, maybe things will go well.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
But it feels like you let.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Of Mike McCarthy for some odd reason and you really
didn't have a plan after that, and you let Dan
Quinn walk out the door to Washington, mind you, another
division rival. They seem to be doing okay. Like the
whole thing has just been a disaster. And outside of
the beautiful stadium and facility and everything around with the business,

(17:31):
the team, the actual team itself, has never figured out
how to get back to what they were able.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
To accomplish in the early nineties.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Like that's the truth, that's the reality, and it's Jerry
Jones is in the center of it.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Talent will never outperform dysfunction. And now you're seeing just
another example of there's no reason to question why Dallas
can't get it right. You have a can't get right owner.
It's just what it is. And he is perfectly well

(18:08):
within his rights to do things the way he's doing
them and and answer questions and respond the way he
wants to respond. It's worked. It's his can't get right
approach with contracts and with his players. He's a Hall
of Famer, hey bro. And it creates a level of

(18:31):
entertainment that keeps people captive and keeps them entertained. And
for good or for worse, it's must see, it's must
talk about entertainment their headlines every time. And that's his win.
And he's clearly by the way. I mean, he gets
irritated here and there, but he's clearly comfortable with living

(18:53):
in the space that he lives in. So there, it's
going to be the way that it's going to be.
I think ultimately we can continue to talk about all
of this. But what happens I mean, is it he
said that the fans shouldn't worry about it, or lose
any sleepover. I'm not so sure he's saying that in
what context. I'm not sure he's saying it like, oh,

(19:15):
the deal's going to get done, or Michael Parsons is
no different than any other player. Either he fits into
what we got going on, or he's got to go
and don't lose any sleepover.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I wasn't sure what the context.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
If they didn't want to pay him, they don't have
to pay him for what three years they've got him
this year, they can franchise and can use the tags
after that.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
I mean, that's the hard part is that this is
the fifth year option, which based on what he's done
so far, you know, they don't have to pay.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Him this year and then for two mays of years afterwards.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Again, this would be one of those examples you would
point out to the NFLPA and saying, let's go back
and try to renegotiate this. Uh, you know, rookie draft
salary pool, how he slotted these contracts. I mean, even
the contracts for the rookie deals have gotten more complicated.
We noticed that with Shamar Stuart's and then language that
Cincinnati's trying to put in regards to the guarantees. We

(20:09):
saw what the second round picks with some of them
being fully guaranteed and others not. As that's creeping up more,
you know, because there's only a couple of things to negotiate,
so as agents are trying to create more value for
what they provide.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
To the athlete.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
You know, this is an example of again probably the
NFLPA in a moment great of weakness. As David White's
now taken over as the interim executive director. We can
talk about that later, but it's an example of a
situation like this with Micah Parsons where he should have
been able to re up and extend sooner without the
club having complete control over him for seven years of

(20:45):
his professional career. That is something that the NFLPA the
union agreed to and the collective barring agreement, you know,
fourteen years ago. And look, there's not a lot of
people could be crying, you know, for you know, Micah
Parsons and these players. Again, an example of that is
the fact that anyone's given a hard time on social media,

(21:05):
like that's the crazy thing is I'm always like, dude,
stop like, like how do how do these Dallas Cowboys
fans side with Jerry. He sells you jerseys that are overpriced,
he sells you food that's over tickets that are overpriced.
Everything's overpriced. I mean seriously, But yet you side with
him with a player contract negotiation helped me make sense
of that, like a guy who's done everything he's asked

(21:27):
to do and outperformed his contract for the past three years,
if we're being real about it. And and yet no
one brings this issue up. But it plays a role
in extensions for a lot of rookies, and it plays
a role, honestly, and a lot of veteran contracts because
of how some of these these contracts are slotted and
the way it's pushed down the actual you know, middle class,

(21:50):
which there isn't much of that anymore in the NFL.
But I digress, Like, it's crazy to think that they've
they've been here before, They've been with Dak, with Dak
proved himself early in his career, and they didn't want
to do it. So I think they'll get a deal done.
I do before the season starts. But it's it's Jerry
Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, So never say never. But

(22:12):
they're definitely not gonna trade him.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Just feels like there's some irreputable damage done in the scenario.
It didn't really feel like that in other situations, Like
it feels.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Like here's the only other here's the only other. Thing.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
I throw out there and ask you guys, is do
you feel like what he's asking for is unreasonable? What
we don't know is if Mike is saying, hey, I
should get paid forty five to forty six million a
year and fully guaranteed contract whatever.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well there might be some sticking through is that, Like
we don't we don't know if he's asking for that.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
And if he's asking for that, then you might be saying,
all right, like that's never been done before and we're
not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
You're a defensive player.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Injuries happened, Like we'll guarantee you three years, not four
or five years, or that's a big jump over what TJ.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Wat just got.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
And you are a hell of a player, maybe the
best defensive player in the league, maybe best ever. But
we're also not going to surpass the next guy who
set the market at forty one million and pay another
four or five million per year, you know, So that's
the only point that we don't know in regards to
the negotiations. If he's being unreasonable, I think that is

(23:17):
what he's asking for.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I think the interesting point about that, and I know
we got a break, but I think the interesting point
about that is he's way younger than TJ.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Watt.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
He's way younger than those guys, you know, he's he's
way younger than Miles Garrett. He's younger. So if he
were to be asking for more, I would assume it
would be for longer, like you just said, And maybe
their sticking point is they don't want to do a
contract for that amount of money, fully guaranteed for that

(23:48):
amount of time. And you got to keep in mind,
this is the same guy's representation or the same you
know agent that did moles did uh Deshaun Watson's. Yeah,
there could be you know, there could be residual effects
from fallout of Deshaun Watson's contract. This could be playing

(24:08):
out in Dallas. You know, you don't know, you don't
really know all of the politics involved. I wouldn't be
shocked if this was more about the agency. I wonder
if he changed agents, what the deal get done. You know,
there's the possibility that his negotiating tactics have been what
they had been, and now you're in a situation where

(24:30):
you're in a standoff and just maybe it's like you're
not going to do me the way that you did Cleveland.
This is Dallas, sir, it's not Cleveland, it's not Ohio,
and that could be a possibility here as well. All
I know is whatever it is, I still feel as
though they needed to try to figure out how to
keep this more quiet in terms of the discussion points

(24:54):
of it in the media, so that the damage, you know,
trust wise or relationship wise, you know, didn't get to
the point of where it seemingly has gotten to now.

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Start suiting the too q.

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Speaker 2 (25:48):
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Speaker 2 (26:13):
Guys.

Speaker 9 (26:14):
In case you missed it.

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Uh.

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During the Pro Football Hall of Fame speeches over this weekend,
Mary kay Cabin, of course from Cleveland dot com, famous
Brown's inside insider, she had a few jokes. Mary Kay's
got the jokes. Take a listen to what she had
to say during her speech.

Speaker 10 (26:29):
Bill Belichick was the first Browns coach I ever covered.
You see, if you start out with Bill Belichick, no
one can rattle you after that. If Bill didn't like
something I wrote, he'd call and yell at me. If
you asked a dumb question, he'd call you out. Eventually,

(26:50):
I had to learn to stand up to him. During
one of those yelling matches, I told him, if you
don't have the footballs to say that to the guys,
then don't say it to me, bam. But now I
totally understand why Bill gave me such a hard time.
I was twenty eight at the time, and he just

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couldn't relate to a woman that old.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
So funny.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Man, Wait, go Mary Kay, yay go God?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
All right. First off, congrats to Mary Kay.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Congrats to Mary Kay for willing to build none memorial ward.
That's what she was there for. But yeah, I mean, look,
it's fair game, right, and you're trying to have fun,
trying to make it light hearted. She probably had her
run ins with Bill Belichick back in the day. I
don't have a problem with it, you know, I don't
have a problem with any of it. By the way,
not Bill's position, with what he's doing, and not her

(27:51):
make a joke about it.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Come on, man, it's all for fun. I agree. Well,
here's what's not fun.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
He's got a rocket ship and people need to get
over it. He should be celebrated and not criticized. That's
what's real.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Mary Kay. Cabot is a rocket ship. Come on, give
her some love. What else we got?

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Lee?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Oh dang, you're not in what I thought. He's a
great reporter. Okay, great reporter. I'm just saying, you know,
be nice.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
Some people were wondering of after a picture went viral
yesterday of Seahawks rookie second rounder Leijah Royo, whether or
not he's got to.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Move right off? Does he ever? Whoa what do you mean?

Speaker 6 (28:34):
Whoa?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Lee?

Speaker 8 (28:35):
I don't know he was where he was rocking some
questionable shorts.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
What there's a lot of questions, Wow.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Wow, okay, red rays gazing? What's your what's your uh?
Some some people call that rocket gaze?

Speaker 3 (28:49):
What's your feedback? N see, I see, I see, I
see what rocket ship? Indeed, tang in his pocket. But
Jesus Leeve, what do you do?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
How do you know? Yeah? Did you look at that long? Hard?
What do you.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
And I got a blue shoo read at the end
of the segment. Now, dot com, I've been pro boke
out LeVar.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You sent that over and that was what you wanted
to take out of that that you sent in our
little text change.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
It was a trading playful Barbes with his fellow rookie rounder.
Rookie drafting.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
There's not much there, though apparently there's a lot that
what were you scouting?

Speaker 5 (29:40):
What are you looking at? Am you're either rocket gazing
with Rey Ray or dang.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
I was just yeah, I wonder your guys two cents
on the rookie barbers best back and forth.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'm not what else you got? What else you got, guys?
Pills running back?

Speaker 8 (29:57):
James Cook is on a hold end if you want
to say, he's at p but uh not participating in
mandatory accounts.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, you get the Summer Slam. You have Summer Slam
on there.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
I wanted to watch Summer Slam, but as you guys know,
I was on an excursion last night to do my
fantasy draft.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, I didn't know that you were on a By
the way, by the way, you want to know, you
want to know what's so ridiculous about that that you'll
literally look for any excuse to lick the lid. Nobody
has a party to celebrate deciding the draft order. Nobody.
You do it online and it's just automatic. That's so lame,

(30:38):
it's just automatic.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
You're wrong. Get drunk, No, no, you gotta get drunk
and go play some darts and you figure out that way. Yeah, exactly,
nobody does that.

Speaker 8 (30:47):
Which, by the way, we went to this die bar.
It's called the Chimney Sweep, very well known here in
the valley.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I know that place.

Speaker 8 (30:53):
Yeah, Minnie was the bartender. She she died three years ago,
but she's still there. She was making a white Russian.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Can you explain that's ancient?

Speaker 9 (31:03):
She's ancient. She's very old, is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (31:06):
She my buddy ordered a white Russian and they didn't
have creams, so she just poured whipped cream on it
and mixed it in there.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
What a place.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
Yeah, they closed down because they were selling drugs out
of the back, and they just reopened.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
How old is this? How old is this lady that
you were getting drinks from? Oh?

Speaker 9 (31:23):
She had to be in her late eighties?

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Really? Yeah? Is she good looking for late eighties? Sure? Minis? Yeah.

Speaker 9 (31:30):
She was a firecracker.

Speaker 8 (31:31):
Could she get that work? Answer the question, Dolly Parton,
She didn't have hammer. If she had hammer, she would
have fallen over. Late eighties, still slinging drinks.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
There's a reason why she's there, that's all I'm gonna
tell you. You're behind the bar, there's a reason why
you're there. You know, you know it's a good bartender.
When she asks you, do you want your drink strong
or light. It's like no extra charge, just you want
to strong drink or not?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
What was your answer?

Speaker 4 (32:02):
As strong as you can make it, mini man, that'd
be delightful. Many make it a tad bit stronger.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Oh, we got to go to a bar. We're picking
the draft or we had to literally automatic.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
We had to find a place with good That turned
out that chimney sweep has the one of those plastic
dart boards, so we had to leave there.

Speaker 9 (32:26):
We had to go find a real dart board.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, okay, Oh wow, the life you live, bro? What
else you got?

Speaker 9 (32:35):
I mean, that's what else you got?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Okay? How about this?

Speaker 8 (32:37):
Uh, Colt's running back, Salvin Achmed. You know he's gonna
He got a severe leg injury yesterday with a Savon
Achmed Savon Achmed.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I said Achmed? Right?

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Say his first name was hip Drive, I said, salkay Achmed.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
Uh, apologies, it's been a while since I've said his name.
He's yeah, Akmed.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
I had a severe leg injury yesterday after a hip
drop tackle took him out.

Speaker 9 (33:00):
So yeah, tough, tough.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Have you gotten the summer slam? Or do you just talking?
I didn't.

Speaker 8 (33:05):
I told you I couldn't. I didn't get the chance
to watch Summer Slam I was.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Looking for apparently, but we'll talk about it.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Apparently Logan Paul and this is more genesis category threw
jelly Roll through a table.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, he had him laying on the table and then
he did a frog splash. But he put on he
was wearing these ray Ban glasses that have a camera
attached to him and uh, and so he did a
frog splash off the very top like he The dude's
athletic as hell.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
And Logan Paul or log so much weight and he
trained for this with uh, what's his name? One?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
It was a wrestler that he trained with for Summer Slam.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Jelly Roll.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, well he was with Randy Orton.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Randy or Y, that's the r KO guy.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
But Randy or jelly Rolls lost what like I think
two and thirty pounds or something like that.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
And yeah, he did, he did much more.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
Now, no, he's still looked pretty three that's that's that's
still a heavy.

Speaker 9 (34:10):
Yeah, he's gone from five forty to three fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Tank. That's awesome though, good for him.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
I can relate, good deal, bro, I can totally relate.
We're doing this again, totally can relate.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Jelly ro Did you just compare yourself to Jelly Roll?

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yes, no, one is such a struggle man. The whole
thing is it is such a stroke. Yesterday I was
looking at my belly. I was looking down at my
belly on the flight back, just like dang fat effort. Yeah,
I do something with my life, man.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
All right, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
So so jelly Roll got his fat ass slamped onto
a table.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Paul is a super athletic via oh and brock.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Lesnar came back spoiler alert for anything. Oh yeah, what
did he do though? Did did he slam anybody around
and do anything?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
He have? Five to John Cena.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, he's very very slim and trim these days too.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Huh uh. He's still jacked. No, not like you know,
he's not as big as he used to. He looks very.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Different, looks like he got off something. I mean, he
claims to be clean. He looks clean for certain.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
He looks he used to do.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Uh he used to do bodybuilder like clean bodybuilder contests
if those even exist.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
He used to. Yeah, he used to back in the day.
That's his claim.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
You know, some people have questioned that, but that's his claim.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
So but yeah, like the liver King, like same thing.
That dude's out of his mind.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yeah, it's HiT's all the way he gone. He's completely
out of his mind. But he's he's totally monetized himself
before he full he lost it. He's out of his mind.
But he's in a lot of money, that's for certain.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Didn't he didn't he threaten to kill Joe Rogan something
like that, something to that effect. All right, it's a
good didn't know that to that liver King. You know,
well he's speaking of a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
Yeah, you see that deal. ESPN just inked up with
the red zone. That's all that too.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I have one request, because this goes into effect, I
think next year, don't mess with the red zone, like
just don't like, leave it alone. Don't try and get
too cute. Don't try. And you know, I saw some
people speculating that Steven A. Smith or Pat McAfee we're
going to host it. Leaves Scott Hansen there, let him
do it. I understand there's going to be ads. I

(36:48):
get all that that that's part of it, but just
let it be what it is. It's been a great
idea one of the greatest inventions in sports TV.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Don't f that up.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
That's my only request other than that, you know, this
seems like it's been a long time coming. NFL Network
just couldn't They couldn't figure it out as much as
the NFL wanted it to. And I watch a lot
of the NFL network, I don't assist them very much.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Well, I wouldn't say that they couldn't figure out the
red zone. They figured that portion of it out. They
couldn't figure out how to be a media company. Yeah,
And the reality is it's it's They're the greatest sports
industry in the game of any sport in my opinion.
Some might we put up soccer overseas against it, maybe worldwide,
but as far as the US goes, it's the greatest

(37:36):
sports league there is. And it's really hard to spin
off like a great media arm name another sport that's
done a really good job of it. Like I actually
love the content from MLB Network, but it's not like
that's competing in a huge way with the other major networks, right,
So that's kind of the one piece of it. I
think a lot of people are wanting though, to your point, like,

(37:57):
what changes would they make that you're willing to do
or the price is going to change. It sounds like
it's going to be a part of ESPN's app, Like
they're streaming app. So it's gonna cost like thirty bucks
a month. Yeah, I believe so. And that's going to
wrap Red Zone into that. So at least for ESPN,

(38:18):
they're providing their consumers a lot better value in what
they're giving them.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I mean, that's thirty bucks a month.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
That's probably worth it as it is compared to some
other content they've got on there. I know some people
the Savannah Bananas.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I know some.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
People would rather watch Red Zone than the actual games
I do.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, like that's I.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Watched the Riism well only because you can only get
the games that are in your region, you know what
I mean? Like I don't I don't have the way
you Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I don't do that. I just watched the games that are.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
That's got expensive too, so I don't know, and then
then I go look at the highlights and stuff like that.
But but yeah, I mean I want Raide Zone. I've
always had the Raid Zone. I've always watched the Raid Zone.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
So this is what ESPN picked up.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
They are reportedly the NFL is reportedly getting a ten
percent stake in ESPN in exchange for NFL Network, which
I believe will still be the NFL Network. They're not
going to change the branding of it, but it's their
twenty four to seven cable channel. They get the NFL
Red Zone on Sundays with hosted by Scott Hansen. They

(39:27):
get seven additional regular season games the ones that used
to air on NFL networks, and now ESPN will broadcast those.
The NFL's fantasy football business. But that was more of
a competitor than anything else, So you're like more consolidating
or I guess kind of taking out one of your competitors.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
So that's not really that big of a deal.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
They're not going to work acquire there the NFL films,
NFL dot Com, or the NFL app or NFL Plus.
But the deal is stated reportedly somewhere in between two
to three billion dollars depending on the valuation.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Jesus, they've been trying to sell it for years. Yeah,
they've been trying.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Well, they finally did, and they found a partner who
was hungry to get more involved. As you know, the
streaming partners are kind of lining up, and obviously ESPN
Z owned by Disney, so it makes sense. I mean,
they're going to be a major player as they get
closer and closer to the media rights deal and the
owners maybe opting out, and who else would become involved,
whether it's Apple, Amazon, who already know, Netflix who we

(40:26):
already know. I mean, usually there's three, right, Usually there's three.
There was you know, NBC, CBS, Fox, Abc, ESPN came along,
and there's four. But usually there's there's kind of three,
maybe four. And that's what's gonna be interesting to see
is as this turns over, the league keeps trying to
drive up revenue. It's in large part are going to

(40:48):
come from these streaming services who have so much cash.
I mean, they could buy ESPN if they wanted. I
mean that's how much money Apple has, That's how much
money Amazon has. They literally could just acquire them and
buy them and do it exactly what the ESPN just
did with the NFL network.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Just uh, game is changing, man, and the NFL just
keeps cheering it out. Cash, just keeps cheering it out.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Cash.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
You got everybody else looking for answers and the NFL
just keeps printing money.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
I just I have questions though, like who's gonna win
when they're breaking a story between Adam Schefter, Tom Pella,
Saroonine Rappaport, Because now they're on the same team, it'd
be like a battle Royale for breaking news there, like
the anchor man. Yeah, they all come out and then
everybody to cuss and all that. The other thing I

(41:36):
wonder is if you're ESPN now and the NFL is
ten percent, like, how's that gonna work. There's gonna be
some things that maybe the NFL doesn't want to get out,
Like ESPN's got to have their journalistic integrity, you know
what I'm saying, Like, is there gonna be stuff swept
under the rug because they're in bed together now?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Oh, but that that'll give Florio more work because he'll
just he'll be the guy, uh to depression, the legitimacy everything,
and you know, run with whatever theories he's got as
to why something's happening.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
So that's good good news for Florio. Well, there you go.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I mean the last thing too, is and I mentioned
earlier about David White, who finished second to Lloyd Howell
in that very thorough process. The nfl PA utilized a
couple of years ago to hire Lloyd how in the
first place as an executive director. Well, they hired David
White who came in second, to take over as their
interim executive director, maybe permanent. We'll see how things go.

(42:30):
But that deal, this deal still needs to be improved
by the NFLPA because there's a concern, at least by
some agents out there, that the NFL could then hide
some of the actual revenue that would be gaining from
this deal, which would they try to shield from going
to the players, because the players now are about a
forty nine percent forty eight, forty nine, forty nine and

(42:51):
a half somewhere in.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
There as far as the overall revenue split.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
So there is some concern that the deal may not
get finalized for a number of reasons. But even the
NFLPA signing off on this and figuring it out as
part of it. But again, the NFLPA a little bit
in shambles right now.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
So good times at Magic City.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I'm sure be.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and Jonas
Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Normally a Wednesday tradition, but a rare Monday appearance. Here
he's the one and only Petros Papadakis. He is the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch AM five seventy LA Sports.
A Fox college football analyst, you can get him on
X at the old p Petros Good morning.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, I'm here nice. How's your weekend?
That was all right?

Speaker 7 (44:00):
Like, I don't know, Like what am I?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
What you do?

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Petros? You followed the w NBA for a long time?
Do they have a dildo throwing epidemic? Like what's happening?
Like it's happening, you know earlier years.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
It's not cool anymore.

Speaker 7 (44:15):
I mean the first dildo okay, you know the second one? Yeah?
But now what has it been three?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Has it?

Speaker 7 (44:22):
I don't thought it was it just two? I thought
it was just two and two and one arrest right on,
that's what they're saying supposed Yeah, I mean that's a lot,
you know. I mean they shouldn't throw stuff. They they're
athletes competing. You can't throw hard objects onto the court.
No matter how funny it is, it's not okay. We

(44:42):
can't have it. We're going to hurt one of those people.
So it's not it's not right.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
It's not right.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
What's been a report you've heard out of US training
camp so far? I've seen eighteen is up for the
buckets and you know the linebacker, the.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Six foot who the six foot ten lines? Everyone up
for the buckets at this point. Yeah, I mean, I'm up.
Anybody who's gonna play? Is it?

Speaker 7 (45:06):
Did you win the buck Gets? That's pretty sweet. You know,
I played football with a butt Gets Award winner and
I was proud of that before I got it. Yeah,
Chris Claiborne. So very exciting award and a great award.
But we cannot give it out about Gentry Yeah yeah,
oh the tall guy.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, Yes, he's been great.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
I think he transferred from Arizona State and he's been
great when he plays, and he's fallen out of favor
with some of their defensive coaches. USC has a really
great defensive coordinator in Deanton Lynn, and I think that
he's a future head coach. I don't know if he's

(45:49):
going to be able to help Lincoln who's on a really,
really hot seat. But I think most people understand that
Lincoln Riley, if it wasn't for the buy out that
he had, he'd even fired after the last couple of
years of performances. So it's a very interesting year at USC.
There's no real buzz about what the season is going

(46:12):
to be like.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
And one thing that.

Speaker 7 (46:14):
Bothers me a lot when it comes to college football,
and this happened under Sark when he was flailing at
USC and Lane Kiffen, who eventually was fired on a tarmac.
That's another stupid thing that didn't have to happen that
created I mean, you could fire Lane Kiffen, but why

(46:34):
create this whole mythology about getting fired on a tarmac
for everybody from this point onward in college football?

Speaker 2 (46:43):
That's a big USC stigma.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
Why because one of these donors wanted Lane Kiffin fired
on that tarmac and Pat Hayden went ahead and did it.
But what people did or said when it came to
those guys, and I know you guys have all heard
about this where they're like, well, look, we got to
fire our head coach, and then all these people go,
but what about the recruiting class, it's like, what you know,

(47:06):
It's like with Kiff and you know, they were like, well,
we got to fire this guy. You know, they just
lost a game by fifty points. What about the recruiting well.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
I mean Petros. Petros see it from their side. When
you're paying these kids back then illegally, it's like, well,
they want to make sure that money goes the right spot.
They will waste all their money and giving it these kids.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
You can still pay me illegally. Just fire the damned
coach and you can still pay them. Losing them I understand.
But because you have a recruiting class that may or
may not come where four or five guys may contribute
in the next year, and who knows what that number
is now because of the way the transfer portal is
and how everybody wants a more veteran team and going

(47:47):
the high school route takes a lot of patients from
your fan base, patients that the USC fan base does
not have. I just don't know how anybody's recruiting class
in the future should ever help them when they go
five hundred in a blue blood place or a wanna
be blue blood place like USC. So we'll see what happens.

(48:11):
But when USC has a slow start or whatever, I
think they start the year out with like Missouri State or.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Something like that.

Speaker 7 (48:19):
But when or if USC starts losing big ten games,
you're gonna hear that people are going to say, well,
we should fire Lincoln Riley, And somebody's gonna say, what
about the recruited club?

Speaker 5 (48:30):
Hey, well, the good thing is sounds like they're getting
this Notre Dame USC rivalry figured out. I think Pete
Bovaco came out and recently said, hey, they'd be open
to do it even week one. Yeah, I guess the
balls in Southern Cols court at this point.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I guess.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
I mean, they should have never They should not have
been a question whatsoever. It should not have been even
teased that they would change the time of year, because
the time of year for the opposite years between October
and late November at Notre Dame and at USC, respectively.

(49:11):
They should have never even talked about that how it
should be changed, that it should be changed, the fact
that it was ever even a topic, and that anybody
ever brought it up was asinine.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (49:22):
And then all of a sudden, it's something that you're
going to be asked about every time you're in public,
because Lincoln Riley has sent mixed messages. Lincoln Riley said
the stupidest thing I've ever heard at the Big ten
media day when you guys were there, and he in
an attempt to walk it back. No, well, in an
attempt to walk back the whole the whole thing. He

(49:45):
was like, well, we got I came here because we're
going to play Notre Dame and that's why, you know,
before I took the job, that's what I thought about.
But I'll always do what's best for USC. Yeah, what's
best for USC is.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
For you to resign. You're not going to do that,
you know, I mean, don't.

Speaker 7 (49:59):
Sit there and say that, you know, I mean, just
say what you really mean. I don't want to play
the rivalry because I'm soft, but I've gotten so much
pushback about it that I'm going to try to walk this.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Back and get out of it.

Speaker 7 (50:11):
And the fact that jen Co and the USC Athletic
director hasn't said anything about it probably lets you know,
not really publicly, probably lets you know that she was
disappointed that Lincoln Riley opened his.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Mouth in the first place about it.

Speaker 7 (50:30):
And now they've tried to walk it back and seem
like they're on the same page, and they're not. Lincoln
Riley has as if he has a choice, has tried
to manipulate USC schedule and get rid of the rope
Notre Dame rivalry, or at least bring questions up about it,
which is criminal. He should have never brought it up.

(50:52):
I don't care if he's even even if he's won
eleven games the last four years that he's been there.
He shouldn't bring it up. He should never bring it up.
If you coach USC, you played Notre Dame when USC
plays Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
And you should shut your mouth about it.

Speaker 7 (51:05):
And anybody that says anything else about it is a
soft crumb coward.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
And I can't take it, and I won't.

Speaker 7 (51:12):
I won't discuss it as when the season starts, Pats,
I will not discuss it anymore.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
So well, I'm curious though from usually out here, the
fanboys and fangirls in the media don't really want to
be critical of the local teams.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
They just don't. Yeah a toothless media.

Speaker 7 (51:29):
When the Seattle media is tougher than LA, we have
a real problem.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
And so you and Scott Wolf are basically the only
two that are willing to call out USC for their crap.

Speaker 7 (51:40):
We have Fine bomb well yeah, you mean locally.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, locally and Colin Coward too.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
It's true, It's true, you know, but what sort of
feedback do you get from people.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Either in and around the program? Are you ostracized?

Speaker 7 (51:59):
Are you not?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Just don't even we don't even address that anymore, even
though you poscide, Yeah, I mean, are you like, what
sort of feedback do you get from people in and
around the program? If you guys are always so hard
on the paint about all the flaws that USC has.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
Well, I've told the truth about it for a long time,
and it's not like I was wrong. Usse after Pete
Carroll and his what Pete Carroll did and how he
did it, and the arrogant way in which it was handled,
and the fact that his superiors allowed it to happen

(52:37):
crippled generations of USC football, the sanctions and all that,
and then who they hired to pull them out of it,
which were Pete Carroll's old proxies Kiffin and Sarkesian, and
then ending up hiring Clay Helton, and the way that
they've had athletic directors work, not real administrator. The one

(53:01):
administrator that they ended up hiring, a guy named Mike Boone,
seemed like he had a head injury the whole time
he was there.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
You don't even know.

Speaker 7 (53:09):
Yeah, I acted like a complete weird jackass. Just was
like a caricature of a blowhard old athletic director. Which
was really sad because I was just happy that it
wasn't an ex USC football player that they hired. And
now they actually have a real administrator in gen Cohen.
But it's a real tsunami of no pun I'm sorry

(53:32):
about the well, I guess the tsunami didn't really send
anybody too much, so maybe in Russia. But it was
a real tsudami of bad stuff that she's got to
deal with. And a lot of modern college football stuff,
modern athletic department stuff that USC is just they don't
just they just don't seem ready for the twenty first century.
They were barely ready for the things to change the

(53:57):
last few times in college football, they not been ahead
of the crest of the wave. Like a lot of
programs like Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, people that are
comparable US. He just hasn't been there like that. And
I don't know if it's gonna happen anytime soon. They
have this Lake A Riley contract, maybe this guy wins
the buckis, but other than that, I don't think. I

(54:19):
don't I don't know how much we're going to be
talking about it as far as relevant college football.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Is the year goes on.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
You got a kid by the name of Taymir Robinson
from our school, from Penn State that's a linebacker. Keep
an eye out for him. Kid is super athletic, special kid.
He was he was under you know, he got ill
at Penn State last year, but he actually transferred to USC.
I didn't like it, but kid can ball, So I'm

(54:46):
sorry that he transferred. Yeah, I didn't like that he
left US, especially to come to a Big ten school,
But it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
But let me ask you this. You talked about just kind.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Of like like that momentum isn't there for you, see.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
But what about the recruits Lava.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Yeah, and the recruits.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
I mean, we just saw Trey Lance have a good
a good preseason game. I really believe Harball is going
to have the Chargers bawling this year, and then you
got Sam or excuse me, Matthew Stafford. His back is sore.
You think this could be a Chargers year in LA, That's.

Speaker 7 (55:23):
A great question. Everybody says that every year. And I'll
be a Chargers camp today. Hell yeah, okay, actually.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
So I'll let you know after I by the way,
I will, yeah, please do after.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
I survey them in camp, LeVar, I'll be able to
tell you whether or not it's a you know, I
really will watch practice and make sure they're doing karaoke
correctly and that her be able to say, Okay, you know,
this is the Chargers year. But uh, it's kind of
funny whether it's their year or not. I mean, last
year they looked a lot different than they had.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
In the regular season, and then they go to the
playoffs and lose horribly.

Speaker 7 (56:03):
What was it to Houston and kind of look exactly
like the Chargers look every year in the playoffs. So
that was that was disappointing. It's kind of funny because
Jim Harbaugh, he's such a football institution, and I don't
know how you guys feel about him because both of
you have big ten kind of backgrounds where you play

(56:24):
Michigan and they're more of a rival and you're big
noon and all that.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
So Brady's there all the time.

Speaker 7 (56:30):
But I mean, I covered Harbaugh when he was at
Stanford a lot and got to know him there. I
even got to know him when he was down at USD.
And it's funny. It's like you'd think that Harbaugh, not
that the Chargers are good or bad or anything, but
you'd think that Harball was like gonna make the Chargers cool.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
And it's almost like the Chargers made him a dork.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
You know what I mean. It's just kind of funny
to see him in a Charger gear and just being
you know, doing all his Harball stuff. Like it's still
kind of surreal to me that he's he's with the Chargers.
He's a great football coach and his teams have always
responded really well to him, and he's been able to
build teams everywhere he's gone. So, uh, to say that

(57:16):
they're not going to have success would be naive. But
it is just kind of funny the way, like just
seeing Harball around l a like eating cheetos at like,
uh little league games, and he's just like he's like
here and uh and It's just it's still kind of
surreal to me. And last year the proof was in
the pudding. The regular season was so much better. They

(57:36):
were such a physical team and all that, and it
was just year one.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
So yeah, I would expect them to get better.

Speaker 7 (57:43):
I think one of their best defenders got popped for
having a bunch of guns in his car, right, Harryman.
I think he was on his way to the shooting range.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
But oh, okay, yeah, but he had.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
A bunch of illegal guns, I believe. So what am
I wrong?

Speaker 6 (58:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
I didn't hear that that up in camp?

Speaker 7 (58:06):
Should I not play all the wow?

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I recall seeing something about that.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
I don't recall that his explanation he was going to
the gun range, although everyone probably should have that as
their explanation.

Speaker 7 (58:20):
Wasn't he headed out to the gun range? I don't
know a lot of people, like a lot of people
in California like to go out to the middle I mean,
we have a lot of middle of the nowhere kind
of places in California and the further east you go, uh,
and a lot of people like.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
To go out in the middle of nowhere and shoot
off guns. I got a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Yeah, I bought a house just for that, to be
able to do just that.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I did not know that. Yeah, like really, yeah, you
bought a house just to shoot guns?

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Well, I mean it was my house around the house.
It was my house. It was my house. It was
like forty eight acres and so.

Speaker 7 (58:57):
What like instead of turning off the light with your hand,
you just shot shot it out.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
No, not not like that. But it was this in
California then Maryland? Maryland?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Was this the place with the coy pon?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Who is your neighbor? Yeah? Did you ever tell Petros
about the coy pon situation? I don't like talking about it.
You love it, I know, but it's actually really good.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Still love my misery of my like like John No
and Juju and and and Creamy and and Orange and.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
All of them.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Man like they all did pointed black. Yeah, you killed
your fish. I didn't kill them, Petros, I did not.
They didn't have the frost. They perished.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
How we had that big storm, You remember that great
storm that came through, the hurricane that came through like
it was like a hurricane slash blizzard that.

Speaker 7 (59:51):
Came through, shot down like a tornado like sharknado.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Are our power went out and my general only lasted
for like it was like maybe five days before the
It was something crazy, but we did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
We were out of power for like seven days. It
was like a long ad sign with no power. And
my fish started going belly up like the second day
with no power. And next thing you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Know, they were in like a pond.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Yeah, they're in a pond, but indoors, so it has
to be the water has to be circulating or they
lose the oxygen. And one thing leads to another. And
they and I mean they were big. I raised them
from babies. They were little baby cooys and they were
really really big, like like probably like the length of

(01:00:44):
your arm, like really big.

Speaker 7 (01:00:46):
Well, it reminds me of a few things. Chris wember Positive, Right,
you used to have a lake in the back of
his house in the Atlanta area and he would have
it stocked with fish and he would go out and
fish on it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Suite.

Speaker 7 (01:01:00):
Yeah, like Troutdale, right, So that's you know, that makes
me think of that. And then I thought of LeVar
just out there shooting at his fish, which you never do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
No, since you raised them, I wouldn't be shooting at
my fish. But the way. My proper was you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Were gone and you came back to the house. No,
I found him that way. We were in there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
You just slowly watched them.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
I watched them like I had to like live through
watching and do anything for ya.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I thought you should, I thought, I thought, did you
guys create that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I swear I thought that was the story that you
walked in the house and the smell and the smell,
that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
You told us initially. The other thing is like a
lot of show up. I was there, We were there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
We were stranded in a storm, we were snowed in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
It was a storm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
You could consider this LeVar because I mean I might
have walked in from a different room.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
I mean it was twenty twenty thousand square foot home
in Orange County.

Speaker 7 (01:01:53):
For a time, everybody got like coy fish tattoos.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, yeah they did.

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Yeah, a lot of people hadyfish tattoos. Maybe in memoriam.
I don't know how it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Uh, what was that about? Maybe? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
It was like a white guy flat bail, like fox racing,
like monster energy thing. Yeah, those guys came with a
lot of cooyfish and every once in a while, like
mister choose Asian restaurant or something in Bakersfield will be
robbed of their cooyfish. I'm glad you brought some, you
know what I mean. People do like to steal cooyfish.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Hey, Petros, was I wrong for saying that Confederate flags
are related to NASCAR events?

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Well? You got the General Lee right, I mean, but
is that wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Like I'm saying, you go to a NASCAR event, Confederate
flags are part of NASCAR events. That might have been them,
but that's still that doesn't mean that they don't want
to have them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:02:48):
I mean, the Confederate flag is interesting. I mean, it
represents a lot of different things, just a lot of
different people. One interesting fact about the Confederate flag, I
believe it was was designed by Beauregard, who was a
Creole general for the for the Confederates. He was in Charleston.

(01:03:11):
He made some mistakes, but he was he was in
pretty well. He did yeah, but he was a pretty
he was a pretty famous general in his time. And
they the first flag they designed for the Confederacy looked
too much like the American flag or the Union flag,
and so the Confederate battle flag looked a lot like

(01:03:32):
and it was confusing in the early parts of the
Civil War, and there was a lot of confusion anyway,
if you can imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
How loud all that, well, they were fighting over confusion,
right well, I.

Speaker 7 (01:03:44):
Mean there's a lot of I mean, if you can
imagine like thirty thousand men in either army attacking each
other in like a giant field.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
You're like, wait, there's our flag.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
Wait right there, smoke and there's like, you know, one
of the most I think the most famous Confederate general
of them all, other than Lee, which would be Stonewall Jackson.
He died from friendly fire in the Civil War. Because
there was a lot of confusion, so the first Confederate
flag looked a little bit too much like the other one.

(01:04:15):
So then the stars and bars he designed and they
were they're more distinctive. And I mean I come from
a time where, you know, if we had an old
lineman that was a white guy who was from you know,
the South, well not even the South, just inland like Norco.
You know, they'd put a flag up and listen to

(01:04:37):
country music and stuff like that. I don't know if
they really had a perspective on what it meant or
not meant, but uh, as far as being involved with NASCAR,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
The the the.

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
Origin of NASCAR is bootlegging. So which would be like
souping up your car to outrun the cops cops on
Southern roads to run moonshine or whiskey or whatever. And
uh so it's kind of got an outlaw sort of

(01:05:10):
vibe at a background and definitely a Southern background. So
if it's a Southern outlaw background, yeah, I would say.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Which is interesting because again, like the educational point there
to that is black dudes, was was bootlegging too, Black
and white people were bootlegging. It was all about the
the corn liquor. It was about that that shine. It
was about getting that that you know, getting that liquor
to where it needed to get to, you know, and

(01:05:39):
you get your money if you got it there. Yes,
so it was it was beyond it was green. That
was the color. It wasn't you know, bootleggers, I would.

Speaker 7 (01:05:48):
Say, I mean if LaVar had to uh if if
if LaVar, if you if you had to belabor the point,
you would say that you'd be most likely to see
a confess veterate flag and a mass car event perhaps
more than an F one or an indie event.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:06:07):
Yeah, that's fair, Like I don't see all the backs
for stopping Dutch fans waving around the stars and bars
and talking about, you know, the lost Cause theory.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
That's correct, that is that is an accurate statement there, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
But you look up Beauregard and they called him because
he was creole, they called him the black general.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
So he was like, by the way you mentioned, sup.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
Perhaps this this flag will be better.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
So after this war, we need to go get us
home some By.

Speaker 11 (01:06:38):
The way, uh, in New Orleans for a time, you
mentioned Stonewall Jackson, if if I have this correct, I
think he was one of the I think he invented
the cold shower, the cold tub treatment.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
That guy used to in the dead of winter take
cold showers to get ready for battle.

Speaker 7 (01:06:54):
Stonewall was an interesting guy, a very very religious, almost
like a Zelot, and he was a He was an
artillery instructor at vm I so h once. I think
they up until maybe ten years ago, they still had

(01:07:14):
his two cannons. I think they're biblically named. They're displayed.
I think they still might be, but they still have
some Stonewall Jackson stuff at v M I and I
think his house is a museum.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Interesting. See, there's nothing. Yeah, this is the best. You know,
it's nothing. Petro's doesn't know. Uh, we appreciate it. I
know who's gonna win the butckets.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Get them on X at the Old p and we
will do it again next week. There he is, the
great Petros Papadekas with us year on Fox Sports Radio