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The Patriots-Belichick grudge never seems to die. Steve Sarkisian downplays Arch Manning wincing on throws in but there should be real concern. Plus, the debut of “Fantasy F- Ups!” and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Cause I'm a simple can man.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Why are you getting in the yard?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Just a simple kind of man. Bruh getting him in zoom.
I don't know how to do.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I don't know how to get into stream yard and
zoom at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
The fact that we've got to do both, it's so weird.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I would have done the yard, but.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Lee's like, well, we need to do zoom so that
I have it in better quality so that we can
do it for our podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yeah, you're in the bolt yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
No I wasn't. You were.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I went into one earlier and then I went into
the other, and my I only.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Have one camera. Lee, I know that I have one camera.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
I know that I was very impressed.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I was not.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
I promise you you were. But that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
You could see me on both Lee, Yes, I couldn't
see you, and I don't know how that worked.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Probably because you went yard first and then and then zoom.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
But that's okay, that's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
You've been drinking, Lee, that's all I'm gonna say. You're lying.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
You know what I was lying.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Lee.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
You're lying, and you might as well drink you already
have anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
You know what's interesting that as well, Lee gets combative
when he's sober, he's drunk or drinking, he's actually like
a good time Lee. Lee is not a nice person
when he's sober.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
That's very true, very defensive.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
Yeah, it's like it's like, oh all the all the
realities of your life, people call you out on.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
One time if he told the truth once, like it's
the problem is Lee is not believable because he always lies.

Speaker 7 (02:31):
He's an only child, to which plays a portion of that.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I mean, the guy might be going through withdrawals on
the air, and when we are not letting him slide
for a.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Second that you guys are driving me back to the bottom.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, it's your fault.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
You did this.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
You guys want this.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
I'll go back at least least pitching a no hitter.
And you guys are trying to lay down bunts. You
ought to be ashamed of yourself. Come on, you guys
are gonna make him drink.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
You guys are manifesting.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
You gotta knock it off.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
I'm not doing I'm not doing anything. I'm rooting for Lee.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Oh thanks, buddy. It is a two pros cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. I just like LaVar
at least that's one thing. And LeVar is like Lee,
you've been drinking, like rolls down the window.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
You've been drinking tonight, sir, God, please step out the car. No,
I haven't, please step out.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
Oh so funny.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
So coffee is good this morning, Jonas, Oh yeah, it's
really good.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
You got that good cup of joe. Mmm, all right,
cheers to everybody out there having a couple.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Of Hey, hey, look at you text mess.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
It's not a sho'd be coming through right now here.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Just a quick.

Speaker 7 (04:08):
So I told you he's all one today.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Went to the batting cages.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I ice in my back, man, I'm backing, doctor say
I need a bachiotomy.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Man.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
All right, so let's talk about a reunion that may
or may not be happening anytime soon. This whole back
and forth between Bill Belichick and the Patriots and Scouts
aren't allowed to go to North Carolina and Belichick feels
that he's not allowed back in Foxborough. The whole thing

(04:44):
is turned into a bit of an issue, probably one
that Mike Rabel doesn't want to have to discuss. But
unfortunately he was on with Wee I in talking about
this situation of Belichick and whether or not he'd be
allowed back in Foxboro, and it went like this.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Again, nothing surprises me.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
I would imagine that that that Bill.

Speaker 8 (05:05):
I mean, he came back for the best of my
knowledge Tom's ceremony, so that I would I guess he's
welcome back based on the fact that he was there.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
So I'll just go by that since his departure as
the head coach here, he's been back, and I'll leave
it at that.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Has he maybe been out shopping or something at the
Patriot Place and not allowed not allowed to walk to
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Does his key card still work?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
No, when you get fired, the key card does not work,
and I went back.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
I went back.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
It doesn't work, the fingerprint doesn't work, the key card
doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
So that was the first thing they do. They don't
want you coming up in there messing up the place.

Speaker 9 (05:46):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, that sucks. I had that happen. You gotta swipe
your card.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
I remember the only time I've ever been escorted out
like for the most part, like they I mean out,
they were like, all right, is what it is. I'm
trying to think because one of them, like I never
even went back.

Speaker 7 (06:07):
They just told me. I was like, yeah, I throw
my stuff in a trash bag. I'll just whatever.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
But one of them, like when they told me they
escorted me out, like I was, I'm not gonna do.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
What everyone thinks something to do freak out. Who's but
that's what they I mean.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
But that being said, there, I have seen some guys
get cut who have not handled it well, you know,
like not good like scrining, you know, crying and Mama, no.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
No, please, don't let it go now.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
Oh, I have seen that.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's a bad moment.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
I don't judge, like I don't judge that because I
know that's how much it means to that that person
and especially to the family everyone else.

Speaker 7 (06:59):
But I've seen some stuff.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
Now, I've seen some guys who have damaged some stuff
in the way out.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Actually, bro, I've seen dudes have to get their hands
removed from the handles of the door.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Where I'm gonna go. Wait, really, where I'm gonna go?
Where I'm go.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
It's like the guy who's crying too much on shosh
Ink and they're dragging him in to beat his ass
in the cell and he's holding onto the bars.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
No, I mean where I'm gonna go, That's all I
remember him saying that. I was like, I was like, man,
I don't feel like I'm in danger because I know
him and we we.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Cool like that.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
But maybe I was, I don't know. But he was
not letting go of that handle of that door. Man,
he was not letting him take him out that front door.
He would ally they couldn't get him off either. They
couldn't get him off the door where I'm gonna go.
That's all I remember.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
It took me till year seven before it happened, and
then once it happened, was kind of like it was
weird because when Seattle released me. They were like the
Jets arenna calling and they're gonna sign you. They need
someone to come in. They've got a rookie quarterback, Geno Smith.
You know, Mark Sandez hurt her shoulder and literally five
minutes later John is It called. So I was like,
all right, everything they said and and everything I experienced

(08:16):
there was that five month period. I was like all right,
Like they were upfront and honest about stuff.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
So whatever.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
Really it was year eight like training camp with the Dolphins,
because like I could have signed, there was a chance
I was going to sign in New England, which was
kind of what I wanted because I wanted to see Belichick.
I wanted to see Tom Brady, and they were trying
to figure out what they're gonna do with Ryan Mallett
at the time.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
God rest of soul.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
And even if they would have just had me up
for camp and then they would have released me, I
would have enjoyed that experience more than going to Miami
with Joe Philbin for that that portion of training camp,
Like you know, like I think I got like four
pass attempts that entire that entire preseason. So that was
the only thing that bothered me. The most about it

(09:00):
was on the way in. There was basically kind of
a lie of like yeah, yeah, I know, you'll get
to compete, blah blah blah.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
That was not the case. Like, that was not the
case at all.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I was let go from a team.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I mean I did ask to be let go because
I was in so much pain. My knees kept filling
up with my knees.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
I asked to be released once. That's the first conversation
I ever had with John Ellway.

Speaker 7 (09:24):
I want to release me somewhere else. Yeah. He was
so caught off guard.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
He was like, oh okay, Like like I like, I
don't know if you just thought I was coming into
say Loo and meet him or what. But I was like, yeah, man,
I need to get somewhere I can go play, you know.
And he was like, ah no, we can't do that.
Like everyone likes you. You got a year left during
the deal. I was like, I was like, yeah, man,
I need to get out of here. I was like,
I need to go, I need to play. I'm dying.

(09:50):
I was like, you can understand, you know, I'm dying
over here. Like I don't like being a backup. I'd
rather flame out as a starter than have to sit
and hold a damn clipboard.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
And he's like, oh no, you know, respect that. But
you know, I just got here.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
Let me just you know, because you when you're John Elway,
you're used to people like naturally just like wanting to
come to meet you, you know, and then you get
in that position where like, no, now you're making decisions,
it's entirely different.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
Hold on, that's a good move. That's a good move you.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Got.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Oh my gosh, what the hell?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
All I'll say is I had five years left on
my deal and it would have got two super Bowls
if I had stayed.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
But well, this coffee sure is good, man, Yeah, sure
is good.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Make sure you wash it afterwards.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
So I'm gonna drink it. Oh, like, I don't know
what you're talking about.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
You'll wash it out.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
So the the Belichick Patriots fiasco, By the way, North
Carolina did win this past weekend, I just want to
point that, so, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Such a non story.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Who I know, Charlotte, I didn't even know they played again, Charlotte, Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I was still on Week one with them.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
But it's like this story and Patriots scouts not being
allowed at North Carolina practices and Belichick thinking he's not
allowed at at in Foxborough at the Patriots facility, Rabel
having to talk about it. All of that superseded everything
that went on in North Carolina, you know, Belichick winning

(11:47):
his first game as a college coach like that, like
nowhere to be found. But this is and I'm just
trying to figure out at some point, you just got
to move on. It's over. It didn't work out, and
now he's at North Carolina. But it does feel like
Belichick's holding on to this grudge. If all this is true,
and who knows, I mean, you know, based on the information,

(12:08):
it seems like it is, but it just feels like
he's holding on to a grudge as opposed to just listen, man,
my focus is over here. Who cares what's going on
with doing good to the Patriots. It's done.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I tend to think I tend to think that this
is a story that will ultimately forever be even if
there's even if it becomes clear that they're like think
about when they did the roast and everybody was like, oh, well,
maybe they are all cool. They're all in the same place,
Da da dad, this that and the other like, even
if there does seem to be a coming back together

(12:44):
of sorts that takes place, it will always be a
story because of how everything played out, from from the
beginning to all of the Super Bowl runs, to how
Tom Brady left, to.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
How it ended to how it went after.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's one of the more like they make all of
these TV shows about Aaron Hernandez, they always do it
about like people that do killings and stuff like that.
I tend to think that this is one of those
type storylines more.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
It's way more.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
This is a way better storyline to do multiple Like
why do you have to do multiple TV shows on
Aaron Hernandez?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Do multiple?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Multiple TV shows on the relationship of Bill Belichick, Robert
Kraft and Tom Brady, Like I would watch every single
one of those. Like the documentary they did, I watched it.
But if they were to do like you know, like
the way they do the docuseries and stuff like that,
and they all, right, this TV network did it, this

(13:56):
network shows do it, then this third network shows, I
would watch all three. And the reason why is because
just like why it's always getting reported on, this is
one of those types of topics that it's always going
to be interesting because you start to ask yourself, how
the hell did they have all that success if they

(14:16):
were really at odds like this?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
And I would want to know more and more.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Details as it applied to what the relationship dynamics were.
Who was who with who? Like who was closer? Was
Tom closer to Bill? Or was Tom closer to Robert?
Or was Robert closer to Bill? Or was Robert closer
to Tom?

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Like?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Was there somebody in there that we didn't know about?
Like Mike Rabel? Was there another guy? Was it Gerrod Mayo?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Who was it?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
There are other people that were involved that made a
you know, made this story what it is.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Is it ty Law? What was ty Law's part in
all of this? I don't know. Was it Big Willie Mack?
I need to know. I would watch it.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
The story continues to focus on on these three main characters,
but there are other guys, and Mike Rabel got brought
into it.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Well, here's go, here's the problem. They did do something
like that about the Patriots, and it was Bob Kraft's
production company who did it. And they threw Belichick under
the bus. And that's why all his former players came
out and defended him and said no, he was not represented. Well,
and Robert Kraft's like, well, I didn't know anything about it, dude,
it's your production company. And I think that probably is

(15:26):
what put the nail on the coffin for Belichick and
how he feels about Robert Kraft. And they could do
the toast on stage at the Tom Brady Roast all
they want. It just seems like Belichick's never going to
get over this. He's got a red ass about it
as he should.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
I mean, he got fired like that, like ultimately, and
and LeVar, you're right, like you talked about this, you know,
we we kind of talked about how he would leave.
And I think after all this time, you know you
can say par ways whatever else he got fired. I mean,
he wasn't a mutually agreed upon It wasn't like yo,
this is time. Like you can tell he didn't want

(16:01):
to leave, or you can tell whatever the conversation was
between Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick had everything to do
with how he's acting now. You know where I'm sure
Bill had a vision, he had a plan. He thought,
you know, with all the success they had there, that
he would have been given some Grace to try to

(16:21):
find the next Tom Brady, and maybe that's Drake May
you know what was he one draft away?

Speaker 7 (16:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (16:28):
I just you know, I think the hard thing is
is Bill made some really questionable decisions during that period
of time, and with Tom winning in Tampa, it looked bad.
And obviously, you know, as you pointed out Levart, Tom
was probably closer with Robert Craft at the end because
of how Bill Belichick handled things with him. You know,

(16:52):
And I don't know if the strain on Tom Brady
and Bill Belichick's relationship, if Tom looks back and says, yeah,
maybe that play to roll in the issues with my family.
You know, where other guys were able to miss time
in the off season, but I wasn't given that same opportunity.
You know, who knows what the stories are behind the scenes.

(17:12):
But however Bill Belichick is acting now, it has everything
to do with how the breakup was. So look, they're
one and one by the way at un C. Hopefully
they can build from there. You know, Geo Lopez was back,
their quarterback got hurt. I just I have a hard
time believing that they're not going to allow New England

(17:33):
Patriots to have some sort of you know, access to
their to their team. That's their entire pitch, Like Bill Belichick, MIKEA.
Lombardi's entire pitch is that like, who is going to
help prepare you better for the NFL than us? Well,
apparently you're only having thirty one teams look at you,
so pretty much everyone else is going to help prepare

(17:54):
you for at least one extra opportunity that you know
you're not gonna get.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
So and anyway, I think my point, can.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I ask you guys this, do you guys believe that
Bill Belichick in some type of way may harbor these
these feelings that he harbors because he was maybe internally
not giving the given the credit that he felt he
was deserving of, and that with all of the speculation

(18:26):
and discussion points that surrounded who was the real reason
why they won as much as they did? Do you
feel as though those feelings that Bill Belichick had has
something to do with his legacy?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Like? Am I am I butt hurt?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Am I am I sitting here feeling the way that
I'm feeling because it's gonna eventually come out or maybe
has already come out, that the credit that I feel
I'm deserving of that would ultimately solidify my legacy as
a coach and as a participant in this sport. In
this game could come into question based upon how the

(19:06):
owner feels about me and what my involvement was. It
could that because I know the one thing about coaches
and even players, you come into this game and you
have to have and if somebody denies it and says
this isn't true, I think that it's it's.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Kind of false.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
You have to have a healthy level of an ego
when you come into playing this game, coaching this game.
It's very egotistical. It's it's the arena, it's the modern
day coliseum.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
This is you.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
This is the version and variation of going to war
without being really a military person, going to a real battle.
We get to see this play out right in front
of us. They battle of attrition. You know, how strong
can you be? Who's gonna whoop? Whoose his ass? And
all this stuff? Could it be that Bill Belichick and

(20:03):
looking at what took place in his first game at
UNC where you could clearly say, you know, you could
if you wanted to, you could take a shot at saying.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Maybe he wasn't that good of a coach. Maybe isn't
that good of a coach. I don't. I don't want
to get into that because that's not me. But you
could have that opportunity.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Is this a situation where Bill Belichick is like the
whole butt hurt thing is, don't draw the history books up,
minimizing and diminishing who I am and what I represent.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
It possibility that robber Craft diminished his impact and his
involvement in the success they had and tried to push
it more towards Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
And will continue to like think about that and will
continue to do so. And who's more relevant At some
point if Robert Craft doesn't, you know, obviously age takes over.
But I mean if if say, for instance, you know,
something were to happen to one of them, They're both
getting up there in age, right, something happens, what is

(21:05):
the story that's written?

Speaker 3 (21:07):
How? How is the story told?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
And I can guarantee you Robert Kraft does not want
to play second fiddle to Bill Belichick. And that might
be what the problem here is is that maybe Bill
Belichick is looking at Robert Kraft like, I don't want
to play second fiddle to you. In fact, I don't
want to play second fiddle to Tom Brady. So whatever

(21:33):
that narrative is that was playing out internally, it might
be the reason why.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Bill Belichick has such hard feelings.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Because all you really want when you do something great
in life, when you do it really well, all you
want to do is be acknowledged for what it is
that you did. You don't want that to be diminished,
and you don't want that to be taken away from
And I get that feeling that that's what Bill Belichick feels.
That's what Robert Kraft is doing, or how he feels
about the situation.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
And to and Tom Brady's cot in the middle is
two parents fighting.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Wow, while he becomes more and more famous because he
doesn't have to be the one that participates, he he
emerges as the one that that's Chrispy clean because he
doesn't have to participate in that back and forth.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm just I just wonder if that's the case. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I asked it as a question, but I guess I
was given a statement, but I don't know anyway, Just
a thought, just a thought.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
I think you're giving some statements this morning. If you
know that I'm making statements. I know you've made some
statements to me this morning, So.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Make some statements, baby frame.

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Speaker 3 (24:17):
It's just a good that's that Boston right there. That's
that bastard swing it.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
What a brutal song.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You know, he's so old now that he's actually like
Will Smith, Like people don't even realize they started off
doing music.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, at the same time. Damn, what do you mean
with Joe old ass like this song and Will Smith
like they were making music at the same time. This
might have been sold Will This might have been before
Will Smith.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
No, No, no, Will Mark. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Will Smith is probably before before that. Will Smith is
before Marky Mark.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Least see what came out first? Well, Fresh Prince of
Bell Fresh Principle.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well that's the Fresh Prince the Rapper.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
His music was out before Marky Mark I can tell
you that one hundred percent. But I'm just saying they
they're so old and they've been around so long that
you could ask a kid like, did you know that
you know that those two dudes did did music, not
not where you know, not actors.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Well, it's like Charles Barkley was a great player, Oh
for it.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I mean, it's funny, but that's true.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Like people you would have never to know him today,
you wouldn't think that he was as dominant, like one
of the best in the league. Like at one point
one year they said he was better than Michael Jordan
and got I think he got MVP, didn't yeh of
the league?

Speaker 10 (25:45):
Yeah, so Good Vibrations came out in ninety one, the
same year as Summertime by Will Smith. But but but
Will Smith was around since eighty five.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, it's not even close.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, there you go, his first his first Like, look up, parents,
don't understand that's the one that launched him. That's got
to be eighty five, eighty six. I mean it's the eighties.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Eighty eight, just early eighty eight.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Lee just look up the same time, though, Lee, just
look up bad Will Smith's song and go to like
scroll through the pages and you can find oh that song,
they're listed somewhere.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah, girls ain't nothing but trouble that.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
Eighty five another rough one, parents don't understand like you said,
eighty eight rough one.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
There you go. Those are some really good songs.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Solo careers started in ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
There you go. So it is the same time. It's
basically basically in essence, the same time.

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brand new feature here on the show coming up at
about twelve minutes from now. An embarrassing admission by one
or two members of the show will be happening here
at about twelve minutes from now. But Steve Sarkesian, the

(27:25):
head coach at Texas, was being asked about, you know,
some speculation that maybe arch Manning was dealing with a
little bit of an injury or something like that, and
the interaction with like this with the.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Media, arch Manning seemed to be having some throwing pains.

Speaker 8 (27:40):
By the according to who, arch Arch said that to you? No, oh,
according to who, it just looked like he was He
doesn't have.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Any Is there an explanation to why he was a
luck like that?

Speaker 9 (27:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (27:53):
I've never filed I've never filmed any of you guys
when you're using the bathroom, so I don't know what
faces you make when you're doing that.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Okay, well there's that.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
If you've seen the video, it looks like he's wincing,
and that that's not the only one. There's a couple
of times, a couple at different times you could see
him wincing when he throws and it looks like he's
in pain. And like I said that, this narrative has
been out there since the Ohio State game. You know,
Sarks probably doing what he can to protect him because
Arch wants to play, He wants to tough through this.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
It's not good though. I mean, I will say this.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
I went back and watched him film from last year,
just watching him throw, and it did seem like he
had a little more zip on the ball last year.
So I'm not sure what's going on. You know, again,
Sarks in a tough position because he's got to protect
his player. If he's choosing to play through an injury,
can't you know, let it out there that he's playing
banged up and you know that the truth is that

(28:55):
he might might not want to make an excuse for
anything that's not happening or not going the way they
want to. So it's gonna be something to follow the
rest of the year. But what's unfortunate is at the
end of the year he ends up getting a surgery
or something. I think that equally looks bad because then
it's like, all right, well, you were playing throughout the
season knowing that you need to get a surgery at

(29:16):
the end of it. I mean, players do that from
time to time. But I don't know. I just like,
if he's got such a bright future, why not, you know,
put things on pause, let him get healthy and let
him come out on the other side and allow him
to be the player we think he's going to be.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Is it by context the facial expressions.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
That he made, because I look, I saw the videos
as well, and listen, you could clearly and easily draw
the conclusion that maybe something is sore, maybe it was
painful for him to throw the ball. But the ball
on that the particular video that I watched, the different

(29:55):
angles that they showed, the ball dropped short like and listen,
I'm not a quarterback, but if do you make a
facial expression? Does a facial expression like that ever happen
when you know you threw a ball badly coming off
of your hand and it's like oh, like ah, Like
in my mind it's like can I draw a different

(30:17):
context to it?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
And and and that would be my question.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Now I don't know because I don't do quarterbacking, but
I would pose that to you.

Speaker 7 (30:25):
It's a good question.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
I think the difference for me is is when he
starts to make that face, it's like as he's throwing it,
and and and it's it's almost as if like you
can tell it's it's bothering him. And and and here's
the problem is now the media is onto it. They're
only going to shoot his face when he throws more,
which how again, you can't hide it.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, you can't have that. If you're in pain, you're
gonna like you're in pain. You can't hid it. Well,
I would say.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
This, it actually could work to his advantage if that's
what it is. And to me, I really would would
be curious as to why would you not just be
like if if I'm seeing this right, somebody on Sarks
Sarks staff should be making sure that they sit him

(31:15):
down to see exactly what it is that they're talking about,
which I which I would imagine they did, and for
the sake of for you as a coach one and
for him as a player, say what it is. Say
what it is, that's not you don't have to make
if his arm is sores, shoulder, or his elbow or

(31:38):
whatever it may be a hand, whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
If that's what, if that's why.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
He was playing the way he was playing, and he
wasn't playing at that higher level that everybody was anticipating
and expecting, just say what it is, because now you
can say, you know what, once he gets healthy or
if it is a surgery type of situation that that
is looming, then now you can say, well we tried

(32:03):
it didn't work and moving on and he'll be the.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Better for it and will be the better for it.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
He'll get healthy, he'll come back and we'll play or
he's going to get healthy right now and he can
play through it. But there may be some tense moments
based upon his you know, what he's dealing with health wise.
I don't think you have to make this one in particular.
Sometimes I get it, you know, but I don't think
you have to make this one a military secret. Yeah,

(32:30):
I think you come out looking bad versus looking better
in the end with something like this.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
So he's wincing when he throws the ball in these shots,
and Sark's response to that is, I don't film you
guys when you're in the bathroom, so I don't know
what kind of faces you make. So what is he
implying that maybe Arch is cutting a fart while he's
throwing the ball, Like, what does that have.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
To do with one?

Speaker 4 (32:54):
You know what I mean? Like? What is he trying
to imply?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
There you go?

Speaker 7 (32:57):
Bruh, I know what you mean.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
I'm just like, what does that have to do with
a guy wincing while he's throwing a ball?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Here you go?

Speaker 4 (33:04):
It just if he's if he's that defensive because.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
For what it's worth, I always WinCE when I go
into the rest room. Oh man, when I sit down
to blow it up, I always like when that action
starts to take place, I WinCE like and I make noises,
I grunt.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Give me give you an example. Oh man, that was great, Lee.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
And I had the face to go with it. I'm
just telling you, it is a WinCE, and it looks painful.
It's really relief and enjoyment.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Quote for the intro.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah, it's gonna say. Can we usual? I just want
you to.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Hold on now. I get carried away. Lee.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Do you uh you make faces while you're destroying either
bathroom over there? But you just did a minute ago.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
By the way, Yeah, I think you heard that.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 10 (34:13):
I don't really keep tabs. It's not like I'm checking
the mirror while I'm doing that. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
So what do you mean you don't think so?

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Oh no, No, I haven't thought about it before.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Whether I speaking, you're not all the way coherent when
you're going into the restroom.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Most times, anyway.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah, I mean that's fair enough. I guess, Yeah, I
guess I do.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Now I'm gonna think about it.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I feel like every good ass deserves a good grunt
or a good facial expression, whether you're a male or female.
And listen, I don't make it a point to know
what what women do in the restrooms. I don't know,
But all I'm saying is I would assume that everybody
blows it up the same type of way. So if

(34:58):
you do like I like, anybody says that, go in
there and it's like yeah, Roses is, oh okay, Rainbow
done Like, I don't buy that.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, I'm with you at all.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
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Speaker 4 (35:30):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, we are going
to debut a brand new feature here on the show,
and it is a little bit embarrassing. We'll just say
that for one member of this crew. We'll get into
that for you here on FSR.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
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Speaker 4 (35:53):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up top next. Now we're a little over ten minutes
from now. Already bad news for one team in the NFL,
and this is a team who won over the weekend.
We'll get into that for you here on FSR. By
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people out here who play fantasy football. If you're listening,
you've got either one league or multiple leagues, or you know,
you're just a degenerate like the rest of us, and

(36:36):
You know, people make mistakes, and it's time for people
on this show to own up to those mistakes with.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
This now, two girls, one.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Cup, sorry up, check this out.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's two pros and a cup of joes fantasy cups, all.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Right, So lead the laps. Got fifteen fantasy leagues? It's true,
I've got one. Brady's a brand new participant in fantasy football.
By the way, Brady, did you win this week? How'd you?
How'd your fantasy league go?

Speaker 7 (37:08):
Haven't checked?

Speaker 6 (37:09):
You have not checked The backstory here, folks, is my
nephew asked me to be a part of the league.
Didn't want to disappoint him, don't want to say no.
So Uncle Brady signed up and I did an auto draft.
I have not looked at it since. So is this
your I don't even know. I don't even know who's
on my team.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Is this your nephew's first first league?

Speaker 6 (37:29):
I don't know. I don't know any more details. I
just said yes and I moved on.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I literally forgot to start two players last night. No,
literally forgot to put him in the lineup just I
don't know, just completely forgot.

Speaker 9 (37:46):
So it was an empty slot. Yeah, basically did that
cost you the win. No, but if you get down later, yeah,
you weren't close enough. But every point counts because it
gets now to tiebreakers. It's based on totals on your points,
and so even if you lose, you want to accumulate
as many points as possible just in case there's tiebreakers.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
And I literally just forgot just week one. Sloppy port
team management, just a bad job by me, and I
ended up butchering my opportunity to get some more points
from last night's game. It's too bad because I like
to wait. What I'll do is I'll wait until about
fifteen twenty minutes before and then I'll put my players

(38:27):
into the lineup, just because it messes with people's heads
that I'm in the league with. And then I talked
about Yeah, backfired on me and I forgot last night.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
So a do you do?

Speaker 9 (38:38):
Lee?

Speaker 7 (38:38):
I went.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
I did pretty good.

Speaker 10 (38:39):
I went four for five out of my five leagues.
But the league that I lost in was pretty miserable.
I was going against Dan Byer here at Fox Sports Radio,
and I would have been doubled by everyone in the league.
I had sixty points and most people scored around one
to twenty. I had one players scored double digits. That
was Chase Brown, And meanwhile I had aj Brown, Vin

(39:00):
Ridley and George Pickens is my starting wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Not one of them put over four points.

Speaker 10 (39:04):
Meanwhile, I had Save Flowers on the bench, who would
have doubled all three of them together. Uh So that
was pretty miserable. And uh so only up from here
I cannot do that again.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
And you've got to own that. That's your fault. That
is my fault that you put those those players.

Speaker 10 (39:18):
Absolutely, the save Save Flowers is on my starting roster
from here on out.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
I'm telling you. Listen, Brady, you got like get in
there and start mixing and matching, wheeling and dealing. You
can make trades, you can cut guys, you can be like,
I don't like how you're performing. Just let some guys
show some guys walking papers. It's funny, sounds sounds cool.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Man.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
As soon as I've done watching film and doing what
like normal dudes do, then then don't get to that.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Yeah, so this is normal dude stuff. That's what we did.
This is what dudes do, the safe form of gambling.
You guys paint your fingernails too, well, man, Hey, that
was for a good cause.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Last night.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
That's always for a good cause. Tell me, tell me
somebody pants the fingernails. That's not for a good cause.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
You're not daddy.
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