Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Vikings comeback vs the Bears on Monday Night Football. The Patriots-Belichick grudge never seems to die. And FOX Sports Rules Analyst Dean Blandino stops by for a weekly breakdown of the biggest controversies including Jalen Carter spitting and what officials have planned for dildos on the field.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
with Lamar Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
We are rocking and rolling here on this Tuesday morning.
That what's happening? How are we feeling?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
How are you feeling? That's the real question to what
do you mean?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is the norm?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
This is the norm? Why did you choose it?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
This is the norm? I didn't, you know what, that's
a great question. You chose, that's a great question.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
And there's nothing better than leading your son down the
same path going. I had to do it, and now
you will too.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Welcome to Welcome to life as a Bears fan. That's
what it looked like last night. And that's certain.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Problem with Bandwagon fans anymore, because you know what, what
you just said is that's painful for a child to
have to deal with watching their daddies team lose. And
now you got to feel the allegiance. It's your daddy
that's messed up, so messed up you have.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Someone said the Vikings are your daddy.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes, yes they are, but they split they split custody
with the Packers and the Lions as well.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
So you said they wouldn't get a daddy on Mariy
Povich just.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, they'd be like your mom sleeping.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Around and the father is wait, wait a second, first
time in history.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Like your mom was a whore even sleeping around. You
got three dads in that division. One of them was
asking for rent last.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Night to make you a lion, viking and packer.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
But you know what, though, that opening drive was sweet, man,
and after that, nothing up and vanish like a far
and the wind. I mean, give Kevin, give Kevin O'Connell credit.
Like that just looked like one team was totally calm,

(02:12):
realizing the situation they were in and just worked through
it slowly and ultimately just proved they're the better team
and the better organization by the time the game was over.
That's what it seemed like to me.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Go you sorry, Yeah, I guess that's what you call it.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I'm not really sure what to make of that game.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
To be honest with you, Like I I thought I
thought the Bears were gonna be a different spot. But
it's week one, you know, They're just they're not gonna
be consistent offensively. And I think I think McCarthy we
look at this as his rookie year. But as he goes,
he's only gonna get better. And I think that's what

(02:52):
you saw in that game. It was a rough first half,
second half, he got better.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I look at it and I say it's weak one.
And what you saw was a team get out to
a very very quick start, a fast start. Caleb Williams
looked good. He was he was delivering targets, He was

(03:20):
mobile and was slippery and was making good decisions. The
defense of the Bears was was playing faster and quicker
than I guess JJ McCarthy's, you know, his decision making.
But the defense for the Vikings held held them in

(03:43):
even though it got to a double digit lead. I
think that their their defense did a pretty pretty good
job considering the circumstances of how well Caleb was was playing,
how Ben was calling, you know, how Chicago was calling
the game, and they caught up to him in the

(04:04):
second half. You know, they caught up to them, more
specifically in the fourth quarter, and in Chicago didn't seem
to have an answer for losing the momentum that they
had in the game, and they weren't able to hold
on to the lead and continue on for the win.

(04:25):
I feel like that's what happened. I'm not going to
be all doom and gloom, even though I do have
the Chicago Bears finishing last in their division. I'm not
going to say it's all doom and gloom for Chicago
because again it's the first game. So there's what I
can take away from it is at least, yes, the

(04:46):
play call calling looks better. But at some point maybe
Caleb has to stop making those like weird ass decisions
that lead to him making weird, weird deals like doing
weird things and weird mold like figure.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Someone said that.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
I said, Hey, this is the battle of a guy
who does it in his fingernails, the one that does so.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
By the what would say that was the battle?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Hey, LeVar be doom and gloom please, Like I got
the Bears finishing fifth in that division, right behind the
White Sox. That's where I got the Bears. That was
awful last night. And Kevin O'Connell, the head coach of
the Minnesota Vikings, spoke afterwards about the pick six and
how JJ McCarthy responded.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
JJ McCarthy for him to make some of the plays
he did. I told him at halftime you are going
to bring us back to win this game, and the
look in his eye was fantastic, And the best thing
is just a belief I felt from the team, the unit,
and ultimately that doesn't get done without him in the
second half, two passing touchdowns and then the critical rushing touchdown.

(05:55):
It's not always going to be pretty when you're trying
to bring along a young quarterback. You just to keep
playing and you got to allow him to grow. There
was a lot of just things we can improve on
and we will. It'd be great to be home for
a couple of weeks. All in all, I'm very proud
of our team, very proud of our staff, and just
that figured out in us and find a way is
something that will be a redeeming quality as we continue

(06:17):
to press.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
On where I know it's just one game, but that's
got to be massive for him, and they were making
the point Troy Aikman was last night where he said,
I got news for you. They're gonna look at him
differently based on how who responded after that pick six,
Like those guys are gonna look at him, and that
just felt like a real big moment for him. For

(06:39):
Kevin O'Connell and for the rest of those guys, because
he was really that was a big question mark. Was
they felt, like you heard the stories about they're gonna
go with JJ McCarthy because they didn't have a three
year window to win a Super Bowl or a three
year window to be contenders. And it's not to jump
up and say now they're going to be Super Bowl contenders,
but after last night seeing how he overcame that, you
gotta feel way better about the situation than you were

(07:01):
going into it.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Well, JJ is one thing, but what about Kevin O'Connell. Yeah,
but why aren't we talking about how good of a
head coach he is?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I mean, is he easy or is he not?

Speaker 5 (07:12):
At the quarterback whisper, He's had so many guys down
to play like so well, And I think you chalk
it up to maybe his experience as a quarterback. Maybe
you chalk it up to the roster around him. I'm
not I'm not sure how you look at it, but
like this dude can coach ball man like he just
he's a leader like that that and I'm not saying

(07:35):
Ben Johnson is not. But this is his first shot
of being a head coach. And Kevin O'Connell is very
comfortable with how everything played.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Out last night.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
It's he almost he almost feel sounds like a dad,
you know, like like everything out there, he's like preaching wisdom,
like like he knows he's coaching the NFL long enough
to know when he's one, enough to know.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
There's gonna be so many times.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
You just you gotta fix some things, and you gotta
make enough places in the end and just kind of
believe you're gonna pull it out. It's like it's all
gonna work out in the end. That's exactly what happened
last night.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Sam Donald definitely left his game in Minnesota in game
what fifteen?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I mean, I'm just sad that you make a good point.
I mean it didn't look like Sam Donald took that
Minnesota magic that he had last year early on uh
into Seattle. I mean you basically just dropped the ball
on the game white straight. Yeah, because because I do
think that the way that O'Connell has handled butter finger

(08:50):
ass your non your small fingers.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Sam Donald's mind is own business.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
You know, he get hit. He didn got shot up.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
All the way on Seattle Man, all the way on Seattle.
He felt that.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I bet you they was playing that balloon game to
day and Sam darn Old came walking out. All them
coaches is popping their balloons. Hey, but seriously, this Vikings
team is a good it's a good team. I mean,
you didn't even get a lot of great production from
from Justin Jefferson, and he still had good production. Now

(09:33):
that might sound like, how how do you say that? Well,
his yardage his yardage output wasn't very good. He didn't
have too many like really really explosed too many explosive plays,
but he was effective in getting into the end zone
obviously and when they need it. So so, I you know,
when I look at this Vikings team in the way

(09:54):
it's configured, I mean, right now they don't have Jordan Addison.
When you get him back, if he can stay you know,
if he could stay awake and do what he needs
to do, I would assume that this team is going
to improve dramatically, you know, with what they have going on,

(10:16):
and they're balanced. It's a very very balanced team, and
I think they have the potential if JJ McCarthy can
continue to learn how quickly these defenses move and get
comfortable with it. In game situations. That's going to be
the key, because I believe what he was dealing with

(10:36):
was adjusting and adapting to the speed of the game
in real time, not in practice, is not in preseason games.
And once once he gets his head wrapped around, okay,
I can do this, just relax. And that's what I
felt like I saw take place later in the game.

(10:57):
I think he has the moxie. I think think he
has the built in you know, on the insides, he
seems like he's the type of guy that he's going
to be just fine. I don't I don't know that
he's a franchise quarterback. I don't know if he's a
game managing quarterback just yet. Like, is he a superstar quarterback?

(11:19):
I don't think that showed in last night's game. Whether
he's you know, he's destined, his trajectory is destined to
be on that level. But it didn't. It didn't show
that he didn't have that, you know, that potential. So
if I'm the Vikings, I come away from the game
saying that this was a learning experience for a new

(11:40):
quarterback and they were able to get a win in
a hostile environment within the division. You gotta feel really
good about leaving the game. Would have win last night?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
They were I saw the stat last night that JJ
McCarthy since high school has lost three games as a
starting quarterback.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, he went to IMG in Michigan, Like I amg
is a college playing high school teams?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I mean, come on, whoa, whoa jeez, what's what Sam Donald?
I am telling me, Man.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Did you say Sam Donald? Or did you say J J.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
McCarty You shot McCarthy go to IMG?

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah he did. You're right, You're right.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
That's a that's a college football team in high school.
I mean, you got to try to lose. It's harder
to lose than it is to win.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
That I am you say what you're gonna say, Say
what you're gonna say what?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
You're gonna try lose there? No you're not. You're not
going to try to lose there. You're going to try
to win. I love this version of LeVar today. Whatever
it is, man, everybody, don't stop what you got.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
He's the can man anybody.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Because when you come out hot like this, I know
it's gonna be a great show.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Oh god, it's the best, the best. I'm not hot
at all.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
You got a cigar your mouth. You got that Oozzy,
You're like, yeah, anyone.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
We're not on We're not on line yet, so I
couldn't have anything going on right now. You ain't lye
qu You ain't lying.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
My god? Did you guys have a problem with the
decision to kick the ball. When the Bears scored, there
was one time out left. There was a two minute
warning that they had, and the thought was kick it
out of bounds, kick it out of the back of
the end zone. Don't give him a chance to return it,

(13:34):
because when you do, then you know they're just.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Gonna rin the time under two.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah. Ben Johnson was talking afterwards about the decision to
kick the ball. There was some back and forth. They
were trying to figure out how they wanted to handle
the kickoff late, so Ben Johnson talked about what his
direction was to Cairo Santo's in that moment.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
The intent was for the ball to go out of
the end zone, was there?

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Do you guys consider outside kick? How did that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
It did.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
We felt like if we had kicked it out of
the end zone and gotten a three and out that
we got, we would get the ball back with around
fifty six seconds.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
So people were upset that there was not the thought to, well,
you know, kick it out here. You know, he should
have just taken the penalty. They would have gotten the
ball at the forty. Like It's not to make excuses
for Ben Johnson, but I do think that sometimes game
one as a head coach. And I think he even

(14:31):
admitted to this afterwards, like we've made too many mistakes
myself included. There's a lot going on in that spot
that didn't cost them the game, but it did eat
up enough time to where afterwards the conversation is going
to be about his decision making in that in that situation.
And we've seen this so many times with the Bears,
Matt ebers Fleus last year, so many different decisions that

(14:53):
just kind of a kind of a bad look. That'll
be a talking point all week for Ben Johnson, unfortunately.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Is So if the ball goes out of bounds, though,
is his you know, decision making fine?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I mean I guess, like I just why.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Do you say? I guess?

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Like, here's the promise you can you can have a
good plan as a coach. If it's not properly executed,
that's not on you.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Truth but truth.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
If that was your intent, And it sounds like he
knew exactly what they wanted to do, exactly how much
time they had left.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
How do you put that on him?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, and it's and it's also this Kiro Santos doesn't
have a strong leg, and that's that's always been the
knock on him. He's accurate, he missed one last night,
but he doesn't have a strong leg. And so there
the thought is, well, in knowing that, why not just
kick it out of bounds, take the penalty and give
the vikings of all the forty if time is paramount

(15:49):
in that spot and not so much that the you
know where you're at on the field.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Well, the difference in that thought process is if they
kick it for a touchback, the ball goes to the
thirty five. That's that's one of the new rules. Yeah,
it's one of the reasons why I feel like an
last Dean. But I don't know why they just didn't
move back where they kicked from, Like, why are you

(16:14):
incentivizing it to the point now where I guess if
that's how you look at it, there's only a five
yard difference, so you could have kicked it out of bounds,
But again, like, I would love to know how many
touchbacks or how many times Santos has kicked it out
of the end zone, because even though he doesn't have
a strong leg, I bet he's done it more than
people think.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, it's a yeah, it was a fun little conclusion
to a because what you call that took place last night?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
And why would it be considered a comedy show? I
thought it was a really good football game. It was
two teams that fought it out. One team got out
and and and beat up on the other one first,
the other one rope a doped them and they came
to life and they ended up winning the game. And
you know it's what happened.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Jonas.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
What what do you think if you were to say
more or less than fifty percent? Does Kyra says kicking
in as a touchback?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Hmm, I'm going to say more.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, are we talking touchback or back of the end
out of the end zone?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Touchback? Touch?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Touch back?

Speaker 7 (17:20):
Well?

Speaker 5 (17:21):
Keep well because because because either way either way there's
not gonna be a return. If it's a touchback, doesn't
take any time off.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, but he kicked the ball into the end zone
and they could have taken ane and they ran it
out as around to run it out.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, but there's no kicked out of the end zone
stat So.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
As a touchback, I would say probably. I mean, I
would say over fifty yea more.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Yeah, he actually in the last three years has kicked
it all over fifty percent, and two years ago it
was almost eighty percent, which.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
You would assume that that would be the reasoning that
he was using and telling him to kick the ball
out of the end zone or.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
If you know he doesn't have a strong enough leg,
just kick it out of bounds, take the penalty, and
don't you keep saying.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
This, So like he's more often than not being able
to kick it to that point where it's either a
touchback round of the end zone.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
But he kicked it to that same point last night
and they still they returned it.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
You say, I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying
more often than not, he's actually done a better job
of kicking it out of the end zone or kicking
it so that's a touch back.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
That's the reason why he he's making that point out
of it.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, I mean, look, you sound like a Bears fan
that wants to cry about something.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, that's the problem. Wanted that fifty six seconds. You
wanted that second.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, I wanted that six seconds.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
That's all you got to say that, That's really all
you had to say. That's yes, of course I wanted
the fifty six seconds. We didn't get the fifty six seconds,
And some way, somehow, I just want to have some
revision as history on this and say that something could
have happened where we got the fifty second.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Look, I'm pointing out storylines following that game, and I'm
pointing out the fact that if you had the Bears,
because your team, I'm not, there's nothing but heard about.
I told you this is par for the course when
it comes to the Bears. This is what they do.
But if you had the Bears plus a point and
a half, that extra fifty six seconds might have come

(19:19):
in handy. I don't know, just thinking, just thinking for
the common folks. They won three, yeah, and they could
have gone down, could have gone down, maybe kicked a
field goal that would have probably come up short too.
But the point is, at least give yourself a chance,
and they didn't because they've got.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
What you said doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Since he's become a Chicago Bear. He has kicked the
ball sixty percent of the time to be a touchback
ground of the end zone.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, and he kicked the ball into the enzone last
night and they returned it. Listen. Point is, let's not
get caught up in the weeds here, all right.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, it's your point. You want to die that hill.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I'm not dying. I'm not dying on the hill.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
It just see showed Chicago that's the hill you stood on.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, first, I didn't choose Chicago. That was handed down
to me.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Chicago chose you. Yeah, it was handed landed on you. Okay,
but you're from Mammoth.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
We're It's like it's like genetics. You know, there's nothing
you can do about genetics. It just get handed down
to you.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
So if you're if you're dealt a bad card, you
just got to play it for the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
And now myself Steelers, you know, you know, we won
our week, won our first game, and we have Aaron
Rodgers as a quarterback. Here we go, boom your back, boom, boom.
You're bro never stopped. I'm never stopped being a Steelers

(20:41):
fan bro ever. Ever. I just but I have a
job to do. Unlike yourself, I will be critical of
my own team, that's all.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Who hasn't been.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
No, you will be critical, but you're you know what.
Let me let me let me rephrase that I will
be I will be straight up with how I'm looking
at it. I won't be delusional and how I'm looking
at it, That's that's what I'll say. You are delusional
about the Chicago.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Is this because I had them as a wildcard team
and our season picks?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yes? I think you had them finishing what second in
the division? Yeah? First? First? Yeah? Right, bang you suck?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Could he use one of those last night?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
And so does your team? Damn damn from all that corn.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yo Deby, Well, yeah, congratulations, it's like congratulations to our
friends listening on the YALLAHRN of the Twin Cities k Fan.
Big win for the Minnesota Vikings last night. Now they're
off and running Sunday Night football, I believe against the
Falcons next week, so we get to see a little
rematch of the National Championship game. JJ McCarthy and Michael

(22:01):
Pounce Junior.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
You guys are gonna love the beginning of my Blue
Shoe read. You're gonna love what I say at the beginning.
It's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
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Speaker 3 (22:28):
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(22:50):
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(23:14):
a man?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
By are you getting in the yard?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Just a simple kind of man, bruh getting him in zoom.
I don't know how to do I don't know how
to get into stream yard and zoom at the same time.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
The fact that we've got to do both, it's so weird.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I would have done the yard, but Lee's like, well,
we need to do zoom so that I'm gonna have
it in better quality so that we can do it
for our podcast.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, you're in the book yesterday.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
No, I wasn't. I went into one earlier and then
I went into the other, and my I only have
one camera. Lee. I know that I have one camera.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I know that I was very impressive.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
You're both.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I was not.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I promised you you were. But that's okay.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
You could see me on both, Lee, Yes, I couldn't
see you, and I don't know how that worked.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Probably because you went yard first and then and then zoom.
But that's okay, that's all good.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
You've been drinking, Lee, That's all I'm gonna say. You're lying.
You know what I'm lying, Lee, You're lying, and you
might as well drink you already had anyway.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
You know what's interesting. Lee gets combative when he's sober.
When he's drunk or drinking, he's actually like a good
time Lee. Lee is not a nice person when he's sober.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
That's very true, very defensive.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah, it's like it's.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Like, oh, all the all the realities of your life,
people call you out on.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
One time if he told the truth once, Like it's
the problem is Lee is not believable because he always lies.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I desire.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
He's an only child, which plays a portion of that.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
That's true. I mean the guy might be going through
withdrawals on the air, and when we are not letting
him slide for a second that you guys are driving
me back to the bottom. Yeah, it's your fault. You
did this. You guys want this. I'll go back, don't worry.
At least least pitching a no hitter. And you guys

(25:24):
are trying to lay down bunts. You got to be
ashamed of yourself. Come on, you guys are gonna make
him drink.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
You guys are manifesting.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
You gotta knock it off.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
I'm not doing I'm not doing anything. I'm rooting for Lee.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Oh thanks, buddy. It is a two pros cup of
show here on Fox Sports Radio. Just like Lapart, at
least says one thing, and LeVar is like, Lee, you've
been drinking, Like rolls down the window, you've been drinking tonight, sir.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh god, please step out the car. No, I haven't,
please step out.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Oh so funny.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
So coffee is good this morning, Jonas, Oh yeah, it's
really good.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
You got that good cup of Joe m all right.
Cheers to everybody out there having a couple.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Of Hey, hey, look at Chile's texts.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's not uh.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
I should be coming through right now, just a.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Quick So I told you he's all one today. Yeah, alright, I.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Went to the batting cages.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I ice in my back man. I'm backing, doctor say
I need a backy otomy. Man.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Alright, So let's talk about a reunion that may or
may not be happening anytime soon. U sole back and
forth between Bill Belichick and the Patriots and scouts aren't
allowed to go to North Carolina and Belichick feels that
he's not allowed back in Foxborough. The whole thing has

(27:14):
turned into a bit of an issue, probably one that
Mike Rabel doesn't want to have to discuss. But unfortunately
he was on with w ee I in talking about
this situation of Belichick and whether or not he'd be
allowed back in Foxborough in a way like this.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Again, nothing surprises me. I would imagine that that that Bill.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
I mean, he came back for the best of my knowledge, Tom's.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Ceremony, so that I guess he's welcome back based on
the fact that he was there.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
So I'll just go by that.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Since his departure as the head coach here, he's been
back and I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Has he maybe been out shopping or something at Patriot
Place and not allowed to not allowed to.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Walk to I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Does his key card still work?

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Well, when when you get fired the key card does
not work and I went back.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I went back. It doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
The fingerprint doesn't work, the card doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
So that was the first thing they do. They don't
want you coming up in there messing up the place.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Man.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, that sucks. I had that happen. You gotta swipe
your card.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
I remember the only time I've ever been escorted out
like for the most part, like.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
They I mean, they were like, all right, is what
it is. I'm trying to think because one of them,
like I never even went back. They just told me.
I was like, yeah, I throw my stuff in a
trash bag. I'll just whatever. But one of them, like
when they told me.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
They escorted me out, Like I was, I'm not gonna
do what everyone thinks something to do, right, freak out
you know who's but.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
That's what they I mean.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
But that being said, there, I have seen some guys
get cut who have not handled it well, you know,
like not good, like scrying, you know, crying and Mama.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
No, no, please excuse me, don't let me go. Now.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Oh, I have seen that.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
It's a bad moment.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
I don't judge like, I don't judge that because I
know that's how much it means to that that person
and especially to the family everyone else.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
But like, I've seen some stuff.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Now, I've seen some guys who have damaged some stuff
on the way out.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Actually, bro, I've seen dudes have to get their hands
removed from the antles of the door. Where I'm gonna go, Wait, really,
where I'm gonna go.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
It's like the guy who's crying too much on they're
dragging him in to beat his ass in the cell
and he's holding onto the bars.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
No, I mean, where I'm I go. That's all I
remember him saying that. I was like, I was like, man,
I don't feel like I'm in danger because I know
him and we we cool like that, but maybe I was.
I don't know, but he was not letting go of
that handle of that door. Man. He was not letting
him take him out that front door. He would all

(30:17):
they they couldn't get him off either. They couldn't get
him off the door where I'm gonna go. That's all
I remember.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
It took me till year seven before it happened, and
then once it happened, it was kind of like it
was weird because when Seattle released me, they were like,
the Jets are gonna call you and they're gonna sign you.
They need someone to come in. They've got a rookie quarterback,
Geno Smith, you know, Mark Sande's hurt his shoulder, and
literally five minutes later John is it called. So I
was like, all right, everything they said and everything I

(30:46):
experienced there was that five month period. I was like,
all right, Like they were upfront honest about stuff.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
So whatever.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Really it was year eight like training camp with the Dolphins,
because like I could have signed, there was a chance
I was going to sign in New England, which was
kind of what I wanted because I wanted to see Belichick.
I wanted to see Tom Brady and they were trying
to figure out what they're gonna.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
With Ryan Mallett at the time. God rest of Soul.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
And even if they would have just had me up
for camp and then they would have released me, I
would have enjoyed that experience more than going to Miami
with Joe Philbin for that that portion of training camp.
Like you know, like I think I got like four
pass attempts that entire that entire preseason. So that was
the only thing that bothered me the most about it

(31:30):
was on the way in there was basically kind of
a lie of like yeah, yeah, I know you'll get
to compete, blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
That was not the case. Like that was not the
case at all.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
I was let go from a team. I mean I
did ask to be let go because I was in
so much pain. My knees kept filling up with my knees.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
I asked to be released. Once. That's the first conversation
I ever had with John Ellay, John, release me.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Somewhere else. Yeah, he was so caught off guard. He
was like, oh okay, Like like I like, I don't
know if you just thought I was coming into say
Loo and meet him or what. But I was like, yeah, man,
I need to get somewhere I can go play, you know.
And he was like, ah no, we can't do that.
Like everyone likes you. You got a your left during
the deal. I was like, I was like, yeah, man,
I need to get out of here. I was like,

(32:17):
I need to go, I need to play. I'm dying.
I was like, you can understand, you know, I'm dying
over here, Like I don't like being a backup. I'd
rather flame out as a starter than have to sit
and hold a damn clipboard.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
And he's like, oh, no, you know, I respect that,
but you know, I just got here. Let me just
you know.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
I mean, because you when you're John Elway, you're used
to people like naturally just like wanting to come to
meet you, you know, and then you get in that
position where like, no, now you're making decisions. It's entirely different.
Hold on, that's a good move. That's a good move.

(32:58):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
What all I'll say is I had five years left
on my deal and it would have got two super
Bowls if I had stayed. But then finished, well, this
coffee sure is good, man, Yeah, sure is good.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Make sure you wash it afterwards, So I'm.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Gonna drink it. Oh, like I don't know what you're
talking about. You wash it out, yeah, clean, clean up.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
After So the the Belichick uh Patriots fiasco. By the way,
North Carolina did win this past weekend. I just want
to point that, so, you know, such.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
A non story.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Who I know, Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
I didn't even know they played again, Charlotte, Charlotte. I
was still on Week one with them.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
But it's like this story and Patriots scouts not be
allowed at North Carolina practices and Belichick thinking he's not
allowed at in Foxborough at the Patriots facility, Rabel having
to talk about it. All of that superseded everything that
went on in North Carolina. You know, Belichick winning his

(34:17):
first game as a college coach like that, like nowhere
to be found. But this is and I'm just trying
to figure out, at some point, you just got to
move on. It's over. It didn't work out, and now
he's at North Carolina. But it does feel like Belichick's
holding on to this grudge if all this is true,
and who knows, I mean, you know, based on the information,

(34:38):
it seems like it is. But it just feels like
he's holding on to a grudge as opposed to just listen, man,
my focus is over here. Who cares what's going on
with doing good in the Patriots? It's done.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I tend to think. I tend to think that this
is a story that will ultimately forever be even if
there's even if it becomes clear that they're had Like
think about when they did the roast and everybody was like, oh, well,
maybe they are all cool. They're all in the same place,
Da da dad, this that and the other. Like, even
if there does seem to be a coming back together

(35:14):
of sorts that takes place, this it will always be
a story because of how everything played out, from from
the beginning to all of the Super Bowl runs, to
how Tom Brady left, to how it ended to how

(35:34):
it went after it's it's it's one of the more
like they make all of these TV shows about Aaron Hernandez.
They they always do it about like people that do
killings and stuff like that. I tend to think that
this is one of those type storylines that is more.

(35:55):
It's way more. This is a way better storyline to
do multiple Like why do you have to do multiple
TV shows? On Aaron Hernandez do multiple multiple TV shows
on the relationship of Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft and Tom Brady,
Like I would watch every single one of those. Like

(36:16):
the documentary they did, I watched it. But if they
were to do like you know, like the way they
do the docuseries and stuff like that, and they all right,
this TV network did it, this network shows do it,
then this third network shows, I would watch all three.
And the reason why is because, just like why it's
always getting reported on, this is one of those types

(36:37):
of topics that it's always going to be interesting because
you start to ask yourself, how the hell did they
have all that success if they were really at odds
like this, and I would want to know more and
more details as it applied to what the relationship dynamics were.
Who was who with who? Like who was closer? Was

(36:59):
Tom k closer to Bill? Or was Tom closer to Robert?
Or was Robert closer to Bill? Or was Robert closer
to Tom? Like was there somebody in there that we
didn't know about, like Mike Rabel was there another guy?
Was it Gerard Mayo?

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Who was it?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
There are other people that were involved that made a
you know made this story what it is? Is it
ty Law? What was ty Law's part in all of this?

Speaker 7 (37:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Was it Big Willie Mack? I need to know. I
would watch it. The story continues to focus on these
three main characters, but there are other guys, and Mike
Rabel got brought into it.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Well, here's go, here's the problem. They did do something
like that about the Patriots, and it was Bob Kraft's
production company who did it, and they threw Belichick under
the bus. And that's why all his former players came
out and defended him and said, no, he was not represented.
Well in Robert Krasso, Well, I didn't know anything about it, dude.
It's your production company. And I think that probably is

(37:56):
what put the nail on the coffin for Belichick and
how he feels about Robert. And they could do the
toast on stage at the Tom Brady Roast all they want.
It just seems like Belichick's never going to get over this.
He's got a red ass about it. Is he should?

Speaker 5 (38:09):
I mean, he got fired like that, like ultimately, and
and LeVar, you're right, like you talked about this, you know,
we we kind of talked about how he would leave.
And I think after all this time, you know, you
can say, par ways, whatever else he got fired. I mean,
he wasn't a mutually agreed upon It wasn't like yo,
this is time, like you can tell he didn't want

(38:31):
to leave, or you can tell whatever the conversation was
between Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick had everything to do
with how he's acting now, you know where I'm sure
Bill had a vision, he had a plan. He thought,
you know, with all the success they had there, that
he would have been given some grace to try to

(38:51):
find the next Tom Brady. And maybe that's Drake may
you know what was he one draft away? Yeah, I
just you know, I think the heart that is is
Bill made some really questionable decisions during that period of time,
and with Tom winning in Tampa, it looked bad. And obviously,

(39:13):
you know, as you pointed out Levart, Tom was probably
closer with Robert Kraft at the end because of how
Bill Belichick handled things with him, you know. And I
don't know if the strain on Tom Brady and Bill
Belichick's relationship, if Tom looks back and says, yeah, maybe
that played a role in the issues with my family.
You know where other guys were able to miss time

(39:34):
in the off season, but I wasn't given that same opportunity.
You know, who knows what the stories are behind the scenes.
But however Bill Belichick is acting now it has everything
to do with how the breakup was. So look, they're
one and one by the way at U and C.
Hopefully they can build from there. You know, Geo Lopez

(39:55):
was back, their quarterback got hurt. I just I have
a hard time believing that they're not going to allow
New England Patriots to have some sort of you know,
access to their to their team. That's their entire pitch,
Like Bill Belichick, Michael Lombardi's entire pitch is that like,

(40:16):
who is gonna help prepare you better for the NFL
than us? Well, apparently you're only having thirty one teams
look at you, so pretty much everyone else is going
to help prepare you for at least one extra opportunity
that you know you're not gonna get. So and anyway,
I think you get my point.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Can I ask you guys this, Do you guys believe
that Bill Belichick in some type of way may harbor
these these feelings that he Harbors because he was maybe
internally not giving the given the credit that he felt
he was deserving of, and that with all of the

(40:54):
speculation and discussion points that surrounded who who was the
real reason why they won as much as they did.
Do you feel as though those feelings that Bill Belichick
had has something to do with his legacy? Like? Am
I butt hurt? Am I Am I sitting here feeling

(41:16):
the way that I'm feeling because it's gonna eventually come
out or maybe has already come out, that the credit
that I feel I'm deserving of, that would ultimately solidify
my legacy as a coach and as a participant in
this sport in this game could come into question based
upon how the owner feels about me and what my

(41:39):
involvement was. It could that because I know the one
thing about coaches and even players, you come into this
game and you have to have and if somebody denies
it and says this isn't true, I think that it's
kind of false. You have to have a healthy level
of an ego when you come into playing this game,

(42:01):
coaching this game. It's very egotistical. It's it's the arena,
it's the modern day Coliseum. This is you. This is
the version and variation of going to war without being
really a military person, going to a real battle. We
get to see this play out right in front of us.

(42:22):
They battle of attrition, you know, the how strong can
you be? Who's gonna whoop? Who's his ass? And all
this stuff? Could it be that Bill Belichick and looking
at what took place in his first game at UNC
where you could clearly say, you know, you could if
you wanted to, you could take a shot out saying

(42:42):
maybe he wasn't that good of a coach. Maybe isn't
that good of a coach? I don't I don't want
to get into that because that's not me. But you
could have that opportunity. Is this a situation where Bill
Belichick is is like the whole butt hurt thing is,
don't draw the history books up, minimizing and dominishing who
I am and what I represent. It possibility that.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Robber Craft diminished his impact and his involvement in the
success they had and tried to push it more towards
Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
And will continue to like think about that and will
continue to do so. And who's more relevant? At some
point if Robert Kraft doesn't. You know, obviously age takes over.
But I mean if if say, for instance, you know,
something were to happen to one of them, they're both
getting up there in age, right, something happens, What is

(43:35):
the story that's written? How is how is the story told?
And I can guarantee you Robert Kraft does not want
to play second fiddle to Bill Belichick, And that might
be what the problem here is is that maybe Bill
Belichick is looking at Robert Kraft like, I don't want

(43:56):
to play second fiddle to you. In fact, I don't
want to play second fiddle to Tom Brady. So so
whatever that narrative is that was playing out internally, it
might be the reason why Bill Belichick has such hard
feelings because all you really want when you do something
great in life, when you do it really well, all
you want to do is be acknowledged for what it

(44:17):
is that you did. You don't want that to be diminished,
and you don't want that to be taken away from
And I get that feeling that that's what Bill Belichick feels,
that's what what Robert Kraft is doing or how he
feels about the situation.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
And Tom what he says, and Tom Brady's caught in
the middle is two parents fighting.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
While he becomes more and more famous because he doesn't
have to be the one that participates. He emerges as
the one that that's chrispy clean because he doesn't have
to participate in that back and forth. I just wonder
if that's the case. I don't know. I asked it
as a question, but I guess I was given a statement,
But I don't know anyway, Just a thought, just a thought.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
I think you're giving some statements this morning. Know that
I'm making statement. I know you've made some statements to
me this morning.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
So make some statements, baby, right.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
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Speaker 2 (45:19):
All right, so right now, it is the show debut
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Dean Blandino. Dean, thanks so much for joining the show. Man,

(45:40):
it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 7 (45:41):
Yeah, this is gonna be a lot of fun, selets, seals, celebrity.
I kind of feel like I'm somewhere.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
In that range. Yeah, right, don't say that, dude, don't
say that.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Dean controllers famous, you know, the what was it?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
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Speaker 7 (45:56):
Right, the XBOXX, xbox.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah, there you go to x Bucks controller.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
There you go, Dean.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
I want to lead off with all what I think
everyone's like wants to know, is what exactly happened that
Dallas Cowboys does?

Speaker 7 (46:10):
Well? You know, it wasn't. There was a lot of spitting.
You know, I'm just just saying, I don't know. It's
it's it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Kind of like dak is what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
I get you, yet you exactly.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
I guess I'll seriously segue into that, in your mind,
did it warrant a suspension or she? Excuse me, an
ejection because I felt like the ref really didn't know
the full deal of what was going on there.

Speaker 7 (46:41):
Yeah, you know, at least in my experience, there's there's
there's really been three automatics in terms of ejections, and
it's it's like something involved with it's like, you know,
non football, right, fighting, you punch somebody, kick somebody, stomp,
you know that type of thing. Intentional contact with an
official and spitting, it's just always been and the officials

(47:03):
have the leeway. The rulebook talks about personal fouls and
all that and fifteen yard penalties, but if it's flagrant,
it can be a an ejection. And then spitting has
always been when you talk about on sportsmanlike considered flagrant
because you just somebody spits on you. That's like utmost disrespect.
And what happens after that they're kind of you know,

(47:23):
it escalates, so h you know the official. Yeah, you
can get into did Dak instigate it? That whole deal,
but I think in a vacuum there's no quot Look,
Jaalen Carter spit on Dak. Officials saw it. It's pretty
pretty standard procedure at that point that he's got.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
To go, what's the worst you've seen that you've witnessed?
Like this is I can't believe I just watched that.

Speaker 7 (47:46):
Oh, I don't you know? It's yeah, I remember some
of those, like the one It wasn't the worsd but
I remember Steelers spangles playoffs when with Joe Porter getting
in the getting in the huddle. And then there was
a whole big thing, you know. Uh, you know, we

(48:07):
we had this who was great by the way, but
we had Endomik and Sue come in. You know, remember
he he he had a little thing, you know, he
had maybe a little little little temper issue, but he was,
you know, stomping on guys. And he actually came into
the league office and we met and I went through
the plays and he was so like just thoughtful and

(48:29):
went through it all and and it was just like,
this is the guy that's out there, you know, killing people.
But you know there's been some over the years, but
you know before my time. I mean there's always the
famous one one who was at Green Bay. Uh when
he when he got the quarterback who wasn't man, that's

(48:49):
right then he just I mean that that happened today.
Could you imagine what the what the suspension would be.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
And that's it's pretty interesting to think about. Let me
ask you you this, Dean. I mean, coming into this weekend,
this week's round of games, obviously, you know the Eagles
played before the weekend, but the touch push is still legal.
It's still able to be used and was used, and

(49:19):
it was used by multiple teams, which I found to
be very interesting. What what was your stance on it?
And what's your take on do you think that this
is since it got shot down to not be removed
this past offseason? Is it is it just a play
that's here to stay or do you see it becoming
more of a safety issue. Haven't seen any or heard

(49:39):
of any real major injuries taking place, But what what's
your stance on it?

Speaker 7 (49:44):
Yeah, I mean, person, I don't love to play just
there's so many it's it's a hard play to officiate,
you know, you see that it's just so many bodies
you're trying to find the ball. I don't think it
necessarily legal. Threw a great great for them. It's within
the rules. But this, this had been illegal forever, you know,

(50:04):
prior to you know, or early early two thousands. I
mean that that was two thousand and five, two thousand
and six. It had been illegal because it's just you
think about think about from a defensive side of the ball,
right if you if you if you hit them, hit
the running back and you stack them up and you
drive him backward, right, you're not gonna you're not gonna lose.
They're not gonna lose all those yards, right, You're gonna

(50:26):
get forward progress. But on the offensive side, we're gonna, okay,
we're gonna allow the offense to gain that advantage and
push him maybe three, four, five yards whatever it is.
So I don't love the play. I don't think. Look,
there's no injury data that says that it's a more
dangerous play than other short yardage plays. I do know
the health and safety people at the League office don't
love it, and they kind of feel like there is

(50:48):
there is a risk for for head and neck injuries
and other things like that. I think at this point
it's gonna probably two things. Maybe if the ego don't
win a Super Bowl, then there I know there were
a lot of teams that didn't want to vote it
out last year because it would have felt like sour grapes.
You know, they're really good at it. They won the
Super Bowl. I think if there's if there's a you know,

(51:09):
knock on wood. Hopefully there isn't, but if there's like
a catastrophic injury, I think that it'll come up again.
I think the conversation will we'll we'll kick up again
and they'll start talking about it.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Well, and that's like my issue with it is it
feels like the NFL is always reactionary and instead of
you know, being proactive about like getting rid of something
that it looks like a rugby play. Like, let's be honest,
and if you look at the injuries that occurrent rugby,
it's mostly neck injuries. People think that because they don't
wear helmets that like, it's a lot of head injuries.

(51:41):
It's mostly neck because of the way you know that
they then do in those scrums, the way they use
their body. You know, they don't put their head into
a tackle oftentimes because you know, of again not having
helmets to do so, so it ends up being the
neck that takes the brunt of it. I want to
transition though to the kickoff rule because because we've seen
a huge uptick and kickoff returns, so clearly, you know,

(52:05):
giving a team of the ball in the thirty five
is having its impact. But when they made this change,
did they ever look at just saying let's just move
back the kicker to.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Kick off the ball.

Speaker 7 (52:18):
Yeah, they did. They looked at two things, so I
think year one they didn't know what it was going
to you know, what the numbers are going to be,
where's the drive start going to go to, how's it
going to impact scoring? And then most importantly, what are
the injury data going to look like? It was all positive, right,
scoring was up, right, the drive start went from like
the twenty five to almost the thirty. Touchdowns were off

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field goals were off points per game, points per drive.
That was all up, and the injury data was it
was the lowest. Twenty twenty four was the fewest concussions
they've had, you know, ever that you know, in recent memories,
since they've been really recording them the way they're doing now.
So they said, okay, we're going to make it permanent
and let's let's increase the rens. So with the two things,

(53:01):
they said, move the kicker back to the thirty and
or move the touch back to the thirty five, And
they decided to just go with the touchback. And you know,
through week one it's over seventy percent. That's a huge jump.
I mean, that's back to the numbers back in the
day when the kick return was a big part of
the game. So, you know, I think they'll see, you know,

(53:24):
look at it another year and if they want to
the numbers are all positive, maybe they keep it as
is or but the thirty was definitely in the conversation,
but they decided not to do it this year.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
It's Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
I was just gonna mention on the kickoff. It seems
like every off season we're having a discussion about a
new tweak or change to the kickoff. Do you and
I hope they never get rid of it because I
think it's how you start games. I think it's it
is football to me. That's how you know a game
is about to go, it's about to kick off. Could

(53:57):
you ever envision a world though, to where they just say, hey,
you know what is it? How much do we really
need this and let's just let's go ahead and just
move on from it. Do you think that that that's
been kicked around or is there been discussions about do
you just get rid of it altogether? I hope that
never happens. But could you see the league overreacting to
a point to where they make that move.

Speaker 7 (54:17):
Well, it was getting close prior to this change, It
really was. There was a lot of people that were
just like, hey, the injuries, it's so much higher than
other plays, you know, play some scrimmage things like that.
So let's just put the ball in twenty five and go,
or pick a pickyard line and go. But I think
with this change, and this was a drastic change, I mean,

(54:38):
think about it. This is like people look at this.
I mean, we did this in the XFL. I was
a part of that back in twenty twenty, and it's different.
I mean, and so there was some you know, some
kind of hesitation in terms of do we want to
make this type of change. But to your point, Jonas,
it's like they wanted to save the play ultimately, because
it is it's part of the fabric of the game.

(55:00):
I mean, we use kickoff all the time as NFL kickoff,
and that's how the game starts. And the most exciting
play I ever saw live, one of the most exciting
plays was was Devin Hester returning the opening kickoff in
the Super Bowl. I mean that's and so I think
ultimately they wanted to save the play. And I think
this has I can't see where the injuries are. I

(55:21):
can't see it, you know, all of a sudden, just
going going to a level where the health and safety
and then people get together and say we got to
get rid of it. So I think they have saved
the play.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Dean. You watch the games from a different level, a
different understanding. I wonder what were you seeing during the
games that you know you put into your notes, like, oh,
that's something to focus in on, that's something to discuss
that maybe us that don't have the same eye of

(55:54):
looking at the game the way you're looking at it
would would be able to see.

Speaker 7 (55:59):
Yeah. For me, you know, I always and and I
think you guys probably know this as well. Like the
first couple of weeks, it's the football not great, like
like and I think not great meaning.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
You're right, you know when you're.

Speaker 7 (56:15):
When you're talking about how when we get into like
we gate nine. Now now this is like we're playing
NFL football and everybody's kind of everybody's kind of you know,
firing on all cylinders. But it's like nobody plays in
the preseason, right, So and it's and so what I
see you're going you see a lot of like formation stuff.
You see a lot of pre snab penalties and things

(56:37):
like that, and they the things they got to clean
it up. I mean I did. We did the Washington
Giants game on on Sunday, and there was just a
lot of stuff that that, you know, and these guys
aren't playing together as much. You know, practice is practice,
but you can't simulate that that that real game feel
and speed and everything else. So it's just you know,
and last year was was there there were six pre

(57:00):
snap penalty like formations and false starts and offside those
types of things, six per game, which was the most
since two thousand and five. So it's just cleaning that
stuff up. So you notice a lot of it, and
some of it is just officials don't don't call. So
even for the officials, you're kind of they're not in
mid season form. So it's just like that that type.

(57:22):
The first couple of weeks, it's just almost like extended preseason.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Dean, I'm gonna ask you a serious question. Nope, sorry,
go ah.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
No, No, I just say I totally agree with that,
but go gook you.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Yeah, it's a serious question. It's one that I think
needs to be answered.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
We're seeing a lot of dildos being thrown on the courts.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
I mean, at what point, Dean, is this thing get
out of hand? The song gets.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Struck by one or like what's the punishment? How's that
going to handle this? Are the officials who's supposed to
pick it up? Do you pick it up by the end?
Like which end you pick it up?

Speaker 3 (57:56):
These?

Speaker 7 (57:57):
I always know when Brady says this is a serious question,
how I'm serious it's going to be. But there is
there is a there is a dedicated official on each
crew that is responsible for the dildo. It's not it's
not the same position per crew. They'll they'll dedicate whoever
it is. Okay, you know, Tony, it's you today, and

(58:18):
uh and yeah, I mean to me, I think you
pick it up by the shaft. I think that's just me.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
That's a good point. That's a good point.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
If you're gonna throw it to you know, whoever it
is that the ball, the ball boy, whoever it is.
You know, no pun intended. You want to just you
want to, you know, kind of get a shaft.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Now, oh god, exactly, you brought it up right now,
you know.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I mean, Dean, do you do you look at somebody
differently if they volunteer to be the guy to go
pick up the dildo on the crew.

Speaker 7 (58:50):
Yeah, you definitely you definitely. Like those guys are like,
you know, the crew the officials are. Those crews travel
together every week and they're together that that's like your
fan family, you know, your extended family. So you start
to learn things about people what they do behind closed doors,
and sometimes.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
It's not pretty.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
I told you we have a lot of fund that's
really good.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Get him on a.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Does that ever travel to to the NFL Hall of
Fame as as like, you know, first object of its
kind to venture onto the field?

Speaker 7 (59:23):
It's yeah, I mean it's we're seeing it. I think
the w n b A had a little problem more
so than the NFL. But man, it's I don't know what.
The goo goes to a game and brings a Dilda
like I got mine, like you got your, you got
your I d you got your You know that you
got the bill though.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Yet we can't forget that.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
What a wild time to be alive.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Huh oh my god.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
You're the best. I had some other questions for you,
but we don't have enough time.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
So uh he is Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL and
College Football rules analyst. Always appreciate a few minutes of
your time. This is going to be a fun ride
this year, Dean. Thanks man, you got it, guys, everybody, Sir.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
I said, I said, hey, when if you want to
come on, just know we're going to ask a few
questions about the rules, and then we don't want we
don't want our listeners to get like bored, so we're
gonna have some fun.