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and subscribe. So a big win for the Indianapolis Colts.
Big win over the weekend exposed the Miami Dolphins for
potentially the bad football team that they are. And then
some people notice that carly erse Gordon, who is the
new Colts owner and CEO. She took over after her
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father passed away. She was on the sidelines wearing a headset. Interesting,
interesting little approach to being the new owner taking control.
But people went back and listened to her press conference
from a couple of months ago and she explained her
reasoning as to why she's on the sidelines with a
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headset on during games.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
That sort of accelerated I need to learn more about this.
I need to be able to say, is this person
full of bs? Do they even know what they're talking about?
And I think one of the things that being on
the headset has really helped me learn is to the
question earlier. There is such a complex organism a football
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team and how it operates and on game day and
you could say, oh, that person ran that route wrong.
When you learn to find someone tagged the wrong wide
receiver and it wasn't really the player's vault, it was
the person that called it so and it's never I
think that's been a very valuable because it also helps
us be able to know where do we need to
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make tweaks, what resources do we need, what do we
need to fix? So much of it as comes down
to just how we operate and how things work, and
the headsets are really I wish more. I would suggest
it for anyone else that has to pay coaches and
gms millions and millions of dollars. It helps you make
a less expensive mistake potentially.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
All right, let's just break some things down really quick.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
And this is probably going to get some pushback from
some of our female listeners, but the reality is is
what she just gave as an example doesn't happen. It
doesn't happen like maybe someone tagged the route wrong. No,
it's not how it works. If she actually was there
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during the course of the week, which is equally as
important to understand how all that happens on a Sunday
for all these people you're paying millions of dollars, she
would then understand that that game plan, the call sheet
that they're going over, that has gone over five or
six times, It is printed out laminated exactly how the
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coach and the quarterback and the players want it to be.
So all that play caller is doing is reading off
the game plan. So unless there's some sort of issues dyslexic,
there's a Fordian slip, he's calling that, tagging it exactly
how they want it to be, exactly how they've prepared
for the entire week, exactly how maybe they've installed it
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and put it together and practice it since training camp.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
But OTA is a mini camp.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
So this is one example to me of someone who's
now in a position of power of ownership because she
he's inherited the team where it's like I'm listening to
him talk, going, oh god, you're in charge of making
decisions now, And this could be anyone, right, but it
just happens to be you know, a female in this case,
but I understand her or wanting to be more involved.
(06:24):
That's great. Be there every day then, either be there
or don't, Like, don't just drop in on a Sunday,
be on the headset and act like you're gonna be
able to know everything. There's way deeper levels to how
this all comes together. And like that example was like
one in like even at the high school level, like
there's a call sheet they're gonna signal things in or
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whatever else. There's there's usually not as much of a
blame on whether or not it was tagged the right way.
It's usually on the player he ran the wrong route.
He had a two way go depend on the coverage.
He was the wrong coverage he messed up, was the
right depth. You know, quarterback could have miscalled it, but
that would be on him, the player. It's not on
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the guy usually ridding it off the sheet, and half
the time they rispan some of the longer calls just
so the quarterbacks don't have to worry about that. So,
like I sit there and I listen to this, I
just go, oh, it's frustrating because they get a great win,
which has nothing to do with this. But when adversity hits,
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you're gonna have someone chiming in who's like they're on
a Sunday listen to a headset and acting like that's
the entire picture of how this all came together.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Like that's concerning to me.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I'm gonna take a little bit of a different approach
to it. You know, when I saw the story, my
thought process was immediately I'm a serial entrepreneur, and being
a serial entrepreneur, I have learned some very very valuable
lessons connected to business and how business works and what
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are practices that can position you to be successful. And
the one thing that I've come back to over and
over again. That I exercise now is that I learn
from the bottom up right, Like I don't go into
a business situation just throwing my money at something. I
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actually want to learn it, I want to feel it,
I want to understand it. So in that in that
manner I can I can sympathize with what she's saying.
But if you're going to say you want to understand
who you're paying and what you're doing, start at the bottom,
like get to know the people who are taking care
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of the locker room and and actually take a day
or two. You know, you don't have to live their lives,
but understand what goes into taking care of the locker room. Votty,
what's up the Votti? I hope he's still live, Hobe
he's doing well. I used to do these things unintentionally,
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but I used to just really get close to the
people that we're working. I go in the back where
the equipment people were. You get to know what they're
Get to know Votti took care of our locker room. Boy.
Get to know the people who take care of the
equipment and what they do. Understand how they organize. Because
let me tell you something, you want to take certain
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things for granted, like how they plick call plays. Start
at the root, start at the route, learn how they order.
Learn what goes on in those rooms the film crew.
Learn what they do. Understand how they organize the plays
and how they create cutups and whatever it may be
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that they're doing that's connected to it. Go into the
training room. Learn what they're doing, Learn how they are organized.
Learn what is the back you know, the backstory or
the thought process of how you're taking care of the players.
Go to the cafeteria, do the same exact thing. Go
out on the field. Learn how they're taking care of
the field. And while you may sit there and think that, oh,
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like those are immaterial things, those things don't really play
a part. I'm going to start with the coaches because
I'm paying the coaches. They are super, super critical to
the functionality of your team. So if you're really saying
you want to learn and understand who you're paying and
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what you're doing, then understand how it all fits together.
Don't don't don't open up a puzzle box and there's
only five pieces when it's a five hundred piece puzzle,
you don't. You don't see the full picture. That way.
So you have to be humble enough. If that's if
that's what you're going to give is your reasoning, then
you need to as the new owner of that team,
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you actually need to walk yourself through the process. I
did it when I when we launched a beer, I
went to the plant. I watched the process. I learned
the process and what went into how they did everything,
and all the different things that and and even then,
I still I'm not there doing the entire process. I
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don't understand every single minute, little detail. I understand it
enough to say, yep, I feel good about it. Yeah, right,
I should. He would have been diving in those those dips.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Excuse me, you can't. You can't bathe it.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You can't. You know that's the hot one, right, You're
going to burn yourself. He ain't even burning, it's immune
to burn it.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I can't take snorkels in there, sir.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Let me tell you something too. By the way, have
you guys ever did a tour of a brewery. It
tastes It tastes so much different coming right out than
it does when you get it at like you know,
the store or in the restaurant. It is amazing when
it comes right out. But I digress. The point I'm
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making is I don't have a problem with her saying
she wants to understand it and learn it. More I
have a problem with don't skip, don't skip in the process,
don't skip up to the coaching staff. And really, for
what it's worth, she's the owner. She can be wherever
she wants to be and do it how she wants
to do it. But in reality, why put yourself in
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the public eye. That way you can use those headphones.
Those headphones are cellular. She could sit anywhere, be anywhere
with some goggles looking at whatever it is she wants
to look at, and having somebody there that can help
her to understand it and talk her through it. She
could have her notepad out, take her notes, or have
somebody dictate what she's thinking. If she is truly that invested,
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and I'll say that, if she's truly not invested, go
through the process. If not, it makes me feel like
it's a clout chase, like, oh, you're and I, and
this might get me some pushback. You're a girl, it's
you're in the NFL. That's a guy's sport. It's a
guys league, and you're now the owner. Are you clout chasing?
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Are you trying to say y'all should respect me, because
now I understand what you guys are calling, what you're doing,
what it is. Don't turn it into one of those deals,
because to me, it only makes you look worse in
the end when you try to start talking about things
that you really don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
If she was you know, a girl, guy dog, I mean,
you know who cares? In my mind, because remember when
back during the draft, Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones were
sitting together and there was a story that came out
that Jerry Jones wanted Jimmy Johnson, when the camera was
focused on on the Cowboys war room, to be talking
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with him, so it looked like Jerry Jones had some
influence on the next pick. It was all for optics,
it was all for clout chasing, if you will, And
Jimmy Johnson looked at him and just gave him a side.
I like, wait what And it's his team. He can
do whatever you want. It's her team now, she can
do whatever she wants. But at some point you've got
to have trust that the people you have in place
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know way more about this stuff than you do, like
like know way more about it. And I'm saying that
as somebody who's also a non player, and so I
always defer to you guys to certain aspects of football
because you're always going to know way more.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Than I'm going to know.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Shout out to to Ryan Clark. But I just I
just think like there's got to be some level of
trust that Ay. As much as I want to be
in the know of what's happening here because it's my team, also,
I'm never going to know as much as those people know,
and I got to trust they're making the right decisions
out there.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
So I just want to be very clear in what
I am trying to communicate. She's not going to be
able to understand what's on a call. She just going
in there and listening on game days, Like she needs
to be there at practice too, them, she needs to
be there at every single thing they do to fully
understand in meetings and everything else. That's the depth of
what we're talking about. So LaVar brings up a good
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point in regards to everything else that you know, how
the facility operates, how that impacts the players, how that's
a part of the experience. But also there's an element
of like, you're not gonna understand it if you're not
there for what was discussed in the meeting rooms, for
what was discussed during walkthrough during practice. So if you're
gonna do it, go all in, don't just stay. I'm
putting out a headset on Sunday and acting like that.
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That's where you're gonna be able to understand it. Where
you're gonna be able to understand it is then watching
how it evolves throughout the course of the week and
gets put on that game sheet and called in that game.
So that's the sort of thing that I'm just trying
to point out that like in this league, man, you
get owners who get, as you've pointed out, like Jonas,
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too involved to something they don't know because they are
the person writing the check and so instead of and look,
if they want to be involved because it is their team,
they can be.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
But then go all in.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Don't have a bunch of side pieces out there, don't
have a bunch of other things you're doing.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Go all in. And if you're not going.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
To stay the hell out of it, and what you
should do is figure out a way of how you
go about hiring and building the best possible team in
that business, in that sector, in that realm that can
then manage it and then help it, you know, go
win a super Bowl and have success. Like I don't
think there's like a you know, a dipping dipping her
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toe in the water. I think you jump all the
way in or you stay your ass out of the pool.
And this to me, I don't know if it's for
optics or what it's for, but it sounds like not
the best plan as far as how to attack it.
And look, we might be ignorant to what she's doing
on a day to day basis to make sure she's
prepared for wearing a headset on Sundays, But hearing that
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makes me concern for the organization and the team.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Saying doing all that and we don't want to do
all that.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
By the way, didn't hear Jim Mersey her dad, He
went through the process from the ground up like he
was He would did other jobs and took other responsibilities
before he took over the team, so he really knew
each level of all that that you were pointing to,
LeVar to where he learned all of these things, and
that's why you know he was so respected and I
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don't recall him when he became owner, standing on the
sidelines with a headset on, like I don't recall any
of that happening, and that was somebody who went through
the process from the ground up. So it's just I
don't know. It's interesting, and I wonder how coaches and
people in the building there feel about that, or whether
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or not she's pulling people aside saying hey, why did
you do this? Why was this happening, and whether or
not that's more of a detriment to Shane Styke and
what he's trying to get done there.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You don't know what people's agendas are, and you don't
know why they do what they do, or what people's
relationships may or may not be. You just there's so
many moving parts to a conversation like this, too many
unknowns to pull it all together.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, recklessly speculate sometimes.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well, I mean recklessly would be saying she's got a
relationship with one of her players. That would be reckless.
They wouldn't be the first like that happened. That would
be reckless. You want to understand, You want to understand
if one of your guys is getting the ball or not,
you know, anyway, But the point I was getting that,
I mean that that would be reckless if we were
to throw that assertion out there. But you know, to me,
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I just look at it like this. You didn't build
that company. You didn't build that franchise. Your grandfather did
and whatever it is that he needed to do, he
did it. You know, that team didn't even start out
in Indianapolis. You know that it has a history, a deep,
rich history of what it represents. One of my favorite
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players of all time, one of my lums, Lenny Moore
to Redding Rocket, you know, he's one of the greats
for that franchise, Johnny Uninus. You know, learn the history
of the game and understand it and be a fan
and appreciate it. And again, like what you said, what
I would say is make sure you have people that
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have that same thought process, that have gone through the process,
understand it, have a reverence for it, a healthy respect
for the game and what it is that they do.
Super qualified for their job, because that's not what It's
probably not what you grew up and it was your
passion to do it, just probably wasn't. It's something that
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you've inherited. Nothing wrong with your family creating something and
building something where you inherited it. But I think in
the end, if it's not something that you're willing to
really really learn every single aspect of from the bottom up,
put that time in for years. I mean the Titian
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and Mirror family, they have their grandkids being locker porters,
learning the business, being around the players, like learning all
the facets and aspects of the game while they're younger,
and then they transition. You'll see the different levels of
their family. This group they're a little older, they're working
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in film. This group's a little bit older, they're in scouting.
You know, you're seeing the process of how they're teaching
their kids how to be owners of the New York
Giants franchise. It's most likely why the current Mirror Mirror
kids that are running the team are have been so
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successful in what they've been able to do. Maybe not
as a reason, but they have. I mean they do
have Super Bowls. I just think that that's to me.
If she came up, if she can say, you know
what this is something. If her response when she was
asked was I came up in this game. I was
raised in this game. I can tell you what this
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is all about. I can explain to you. We don't
have enough time for me to explain to you how
well I know this game and how much I've learned
from the ground up through the years being the daughter
of my dad. If she had came with a different
type of reasoning, I think it would be received differently.
But I think her reasoning kind of gives light to
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exposes that is she trying to overcompensate. Is she clout
chase chasing? It doesn't sound genuine If you ask me.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I would actually say it also gives her, you know,
reason to feel like she has calls for firing Shane
Steiken specifically, right if you think about it, because Chris
ballads on that headset like it almost points her target
directly at Shane Stikeen and trying to blame you know,
someone on the staff the way she described it, And
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and that's to me, it's interesting to here.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
It could say, all right, does Chris Ballard have her ear?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Then?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Like he's the one that's been there the longest and
they haven't won a division title since he's been there,
But you're gonna put on Shane stiken I don't know
that that's That's the other part of this is like
it feels like it's helping her a build a case
if she wants to move on from at least Shane Stikeen.
I'm not sure how you look at that process. I
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think that could be on Chris Ballard and the general manager.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Hey, by the way, I meant to ask you as this. Hey,
by the way, how come you never pull the you
didn't play card like Ryan Clark does with me? Why
not's that often time you did play?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I mean, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I don't feel like I need to expose my private
parts to y'a either, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You know, why would you want to do that because
we don't need to measure I don't. I don't. If
you're happy with your life and where you're at, and
you have opinions, you're happy with your life and you
have opinions. Just because one of us may be more
in doubt than the other doesn't mean that you know
you're lesser of a person. You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I guess I'll put it this way.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Everyone's got a different perspective and just simply coming from
the former player perspective doesn't mean that it should hold
more weight, right, I mean that the general masses don't,
you know, have any experience like players do or coaches do.
But but they're the ones watching and consuming, you know,
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I know, like Big Cat and PFT. We're making fun
of the situation with the way they responded to that, saying,
how well, while he was on the grass, while he
was playing, we are the ones building up these hot
takes for for the media. You know, we were spending
all those years grinding watching the tape while you were playing.
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So you don't have our experience and perspective in this
in this world of media, which is kind of funny,
but it's also kind of true, like they've been in
the game a lot longer.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
In that sense.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
My thing is like it's just to sit there and
say someone can't have a good point, a good perspective
on what's taking place purely because they didn't play, And
especially when some of these people who know the players,
who know the coaches, the agents, and they're being told
something specifically from that perspective, and they might even be
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echoing that that's part of their job. That's part of
how we kind of translate what's going on to you know,
the people out there who aren't in that position, who
don't know the player or the agent, the coach.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
That's part's part of the story too.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
So I just you know, we don't need to put
a lot of energy or time into it. That guy's
his bed, he looks at things through what looks at
things through one prism, and you know it is what
it is.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I mean, I'm just letting you guys know, free pass,
let that fly anytime you want. I won't get sensitive
to it, like I won't be upset about it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
But the point I'm telling you is there is no
point to do it.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
We're like, it's fine, why not, it's kind of fun
just pants an the air from the time.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Such a small industry, Like think about how many people
are on our on our lineup, Think about how many
people are on their morning their their daily lineup. It's
not very many. And Shrakes is like, super well respected.
You're a team, you're you're on there together, You're there
to do a job. There's a gazillion people that will
want to be sitting in that seat and they're not there.
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So it doesn't to me, it doesn't even cross my
mind to even feel like I got to do something
like that to prove a point. God, just you know,
I don't know. So I'm talking about and that's my
team car Se. That's just that's been some the point
of stuff he's been doing.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Well.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
That's great, But there's a lot of people who don't
like him because I remember when he was trying to
kill about me. People from ESPN reaching out and they're like,
I hate having to work with this guy, and I
was like, yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, he's like I said when I met Dom and
I knew Dom many many years ago, you know what
I mean. People change, you know, people change, So yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, it's all about that first good
sometimes it's bad. Uh oh, talk about.
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call it about twelve minutes from now here. On fsr SO,
Ryan Day, the head coach of Ohio State, he had
some comments about the single window that was proposed for
the portal in college football in January, and he had
this to say yesterday.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I don't think it's a good idea at all.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
In the conversations that we had with the Big Ten coaches,
I think the majority of them agree. I just don't
quite understand how, you know, for teams that are playing
in the playoffs are expected to, you know, make the
decisions and sign their upcoming players while they're still getting
(29:01):
ready to play for games.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
It doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
I know the calendar is funky, but you know, I
know that the Big Ten and Antony Petitti has been
working hard because he doesn't believe it either, and neither
the coaches in the Big Ten We had at a
lot of long discussions about that and tried to work
through the different windows. But I don't agree with it
being in January, right, So.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I assume the SEC feels the same way too. Those
are the two biggest conferences that matter.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Well, that's why I don't understand how does this all
come about? Then, Like you have coaches who are telling
you this isn't a good idea. Now, granted, a coach
who probably expects to be playing this time of year
coincides with the semi finals in National Championship, which I
do believe is bringing up a good point. Even though
it's only four teams, it really is tough, like on
(29:52):
the coaches, on the players. I think about if you're
a player who's a backup and you know, you know
you're not gonna get a chance to play there the
following year, but you're playing in the semi final game.
I mean, people both privile you're your backup falls right
(30:12):
in this category. The backup for Penn State last year
had to make a decision and because he knew Drew
Aller was going to be the guy, and he had
to transfer instead of being with his team through.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
It, and then goes down. If he goes down, we
do not have our real backup quarterback with like you're
talking about a matter of a week, right, We're talking
like a matter of a week. So that you've you've
basically impacted the college playoff with with this portal go ahead.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Well, and you wonder too, like what about what about
a player where like let's say the starter goes down
and it could be any position in the quarterfinal game,
and so the backups now thrust it into that role
for the semi final final. Yet can't transfer, Right, he's
got this window, he's got it out. This team has
a chance to play for national championship. You know you
can't do that. Yet when that starter comes back next year,
(31:06):
he's gonna be a back up. Like I just it's
not that complicated. I don't know why they can't look
at it and say, let's go to the spring window.
The spring window is the only window, and it allows
a couple of things. Let's say a new coach takes over.
Maybe that young man can stay at that school, go
through spring and figure out if he wants to be
(31:27):
there for this new coach or not know or figure out,
for example, if he's gonna be the starter or not.
And once that happens, you can say, yeah, I don't know,
I'm gonna go elsewhere. That's fine. You still have the summertime,
you still have training camp and all of that. I
don't know why they don't look at the spring window
for football and say this is the only window they need.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
They don't need to.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
It would allow a lot of the kids, you know,
to be able to make a sound decision, force them
to commit for a year to a place, and allow
the coach just to still be able to kind of
do the recruiting they do at the high school level
and play for national championship to not be impacted. It
doesn't seem this complicated. I don't know why or who's
pushing this whole January date, especially when you have the
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defending national champions the head coach saying you him and
other than the big mothers in the Big ten don't
like it. And I can't imagine the SCC likes it
or the Big twelve of the ACC. I don't get
where this comes from.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Prabula even spoke about it afterwards, saying he didn't want
to leave, like he wanted to be a part of
the you know, the college football playoff and go through
the whole process. And it wasn't like he didn't get
any playing time last year. They used him in spots
last year. And of course and James Franklin had his
back afterwards said listen, this is not on him. Like
he said it back then, He's all he had no choice.
(32:47):
He had to do it, like he literally had to
do it. He didn't want to do it, but he
had to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And it just I mean, if he wanted to play
like like like, that's just because again, transferring is transferring,
right Like to me, there's the whole that's a whole
different conversation. If you've made the decision that you want
to transfer, there could be greener pastors other places. I
get that. So, but you didn't have to transfer. There's
(33:13):
always that, right. So, but having his back and being
supportive of what Bo did, I think we all were
within the community because we all understood what the scenario
was when Drew Allard declared that he was going to
come back this season. So but with that being said, again,
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it is four teams that it was the quarterfinals of quarterfinals, quarterfinals,
I believe it would open after the quarterfinals, right after
the quarterfinals, and so to me, when I look at
it from that perspective, you're still like the teams that
are in the playoffs are probably impacted by it as well.
(33:59):
And I won't go too deep into that, but it's
just there's a lot of communication I would assume that
is taking place leading up to that portal opening up,
and I doubt it's by the players themselves. It's this
new age of agents are a part of this. Parents
are more activated in what's going on now. People make
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it a point to put it out there what the
plan is going to be moving forward. Plus it's a
ten day window. That's not a large amount of time.
You're talking about thousands of young athletes that are going
into the portal, and these schools have ten days to
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figure out what they want to do, not only with
those kids that are in or young young men that
are in the portal, but what they're going to do
with the players that are currently on their team. Now,
you got to take that into consideration. So I think
there's so many move elements in it that there should
be a fair opportunity where the time is used properly
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by all teams. All things given, make it even in
terms of what that what that looks like, because if
a team is playing far into the playoffs or you know,
preparing for the playoffs, they're not preparing for You're not
just going to take this portion of your your team
and send them to to just recruit for the transfer portal.
(35:30):
So somebody's going to somebody's going to take an al
in that, and it just doesn't seem like that should
be how it is.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
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There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly all right.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Lead to lap who's got what well?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good and this week, Jonas, you are delivering those goods.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Oh Man.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Nothing better this weekend in the NFL than Aaron Rodgers
of the Pittsburgh Steelers going into the old Stomping Grounds
MetLife Stadium and ripping Levar's New York Jets in half,
going in there and looking Aaron Glenn's square in the
eyes and saying f you, buddy, fu and the you're
(37:42):
not good enough for our awful franchise.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
We don't need you anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
And he slices and dices for four touchdowns to open
up the year. That's my good of the week, Aaron
Rodgers sticking it to LaVar's New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Bamn, Well, Ken, have good without the bad.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Brady, what was bad this week?
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Well, we talked about the Colts ownership earlier, but you
know they have to be the team they played this week.
The Dolphins, they were just terrible. I believe Daniel Jones
would led scoring drives on every single drive. I mean,
I feel like the offense for the Miami was an
apt Their offensive line struggled and defensively, clearly they're having
a hard time getting off the field and stopping scores.
(38:22):
So I know it's week one, don't want to overreact,
but that was one of the games I Washington kind
of thought, oh Man, like the Colts didn't have high
expectations this season and the Dolphins didn't either.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Yeah, the Colts are blowing you out. So the Dolphins
were bad this week.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Well, as Mike McDaniel says, it can't get much worse,
but from bad two worst.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
LeVar, what was ugly this week?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You know, it's a competition, and I'll let the people choose.
But what's worse? Is it a Buffalo fan feeling as
though he could say, what the five fingers you did?
A face slot? Or was it Jalen Carter spitting in
or spitting on Dak Prescott's uniform? I don't know which
(39:10):
one is worse. Both inappropriate, both both have no place
shot in the game slack, but uh, yeah, you can
choose which one is worse. But those are for certain.
My my, that's the worst. You know, that's the ugly
for this week for me?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
What do you think is uglier?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You had.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
To choose?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Gun to your the spit spit is always gonna be worse,
like bodily fluids, Like I'm a tad bit of a germaphoe,
Like I don't I'm not really into shaking hands all
like that. I do, but I'm really into it all
bro is shockingly Oh. I don't let people see it
because I feel like it's offensive, but I definitely like
(39:56):
like the fist pound. I mean, I ain't gonna know
Johnny what's his name? Or Manzel or men you know,
the one guy, but Howie Mandel, Howie Mandel, I ain't
on that close on that level.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
But should we watch my hand
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and subscribe. So a big win for the Indianapolis Colts.
Big win over the weekend exposed the Miami Dolphins for
potentially the bad football team that they are. And then
some people notice that carly erse Gordon, who is the
new Colts owner and CEO. She took over after her
(03:16):
father passed away. She was on the sidelines wearing a headset. Interesting,
interesting little approach to being the new owner taking control.
But people went back and listened to her press conference
from a couple of months ago and she explained her
reasoning as to why she's on the sidelines with a
(03:37):
headset on during games.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
That sort of accelerated I need to learn more about this.
I need to be able to say, is this person
full of bs? Do they even know what they're talking about?
And I think one of the things that being on
the headset has really helped me learn is to the
question earlier. There is such a complex organism a football
(04:02):
team and how it operates and on game day and
you could say, oh, that person ran that route wrong.
When you learn to find someone tagged the wrong wide
receiver and it wasn't really the player's vault, it was
the person that called it so and it's never I
think that's been a very valuable because it also helps
us be able to know where do we need to
(04:25):
make tweaks, what resources do we need, what do we
need to fix? So much of it as comes down
to just how we operate and how things work, and
the headsets are really I wish more. I would suggest
it for anyone else that has to pay coaches and
gms millions and millions of dollars. It helps you make
a less expensive mistake potentially.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
All right, let's just break some things down really quick.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
And this is probably going to get some pushback from
some of our female listeners, but the reality is is
what she just gave as an example doesn't happen. It
doesn't happen like maybe someone tagged the route wrong. No,
it's not how it works. If she actually was there
(05:11):
during the course of the week, which is equally as
important to understand how all that happens on a Sunday
for all these people you're paying millions of dollars, she
would then understand that that game plan, the call sheet
that they're going over, that has gone over five or
six times, It is printed out laminated exactly how the
(05:35):
coach and the quarterback and the players want it to be.
So all that play caller is doing is reading off
the game plan. So unless there's some sort of issues dyslexic,
there's a Fordian slip, he's calling that, tagging it exactly
how they want it to be, exactly how they've prepared
for the entire week, exactly how maybe they've installed it
(05:57):
and put it together and practice it since training camp.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
But OTA is a mini camp.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
So this is one example to me of someone who's
now in a position of power of ownership because she
he's inherited the team where it's like I'm listening to
him talk, going, oh god, you're in charge of making
decisions now, And this could be anyone, right, but it
just happens to be you know, a female in this case,
but I understand her or wanting to be more involved.
(06:24):
That's great. Be there every day then, either be there
or don't, Like, don't just drop in on a Sunday,
be on the headset and act like you're gonna be
able to know everything. There's way deeper levels to how
this all comes together. And like that example was like
one in like even at the high school level, like
there's a call sheet they're gonna signal things in or
(06:46):
whatever else. There's there's usually not as much of a
blame on whether or not it was tagged the right way.
It's usually on the player he ran the wrong route.
He had a two way go depend on the coverage.
He was the wrong coverage he messed up, was the
right depth. You know, quarterback could have miscalled it, but
that would be on him, the player. It's not on
(07:08):
the guy usually ridding it off the sheet, and half
the time they rispan some of the longer calls just
so the quarterbacks don't have to worry about that. So,
like I sit there and I listen to this, I
just go, oh, it's frustrating because they get a great win,
which has nothing to do with this. But when adversity hits,
(07:28):
you're gonna have someone chiming in who's like they're on
a Sunday listen to a headset and acting like that's
the entire picture of how this all came together.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Like that's concerning to me.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I'm gonna take a little bit of a different approach
to it. You know, when I saw the story, my
thought process was immediately I'm a serial entrepreneur, and being
a serial entrepreneur, I have learned some very very valuable
lessons connected to business and how business works and what
(08:06):
are practices that can position you to be successful. And
the one thing that I've come back to over and
over again. That I exercise now is that I learn
from the bottom up right, Like I don't go into
a business situation just throwing my money at something. I
(08:30):
actually want to learn it, I want to feel it,
I want to understand it. So in that in that
manner I can I can sympathize with what she's saying.
But if you're going to say you want to understand
who you're paying and what you're doing, start at the bottom,
like get to know the people who are taking care
(08:51):
of the locker room and and actually take a day
or two. You know, you don't have to live their lives,
but understand what goes into taking care of the locker room. Votty,
what's up the Votti? I hope he's still live, Hobe
he's doing well. I used to do these things unintentionally,
(09:11):
but I used to just really get close to the
people that we're working. I go in the back where
the equipment people were. You get to know what they're
Get to know Votti took care of our locker room. Boy.
Get to know the people who take care of the
equipment and what they do. Understand how they organize. Because
let me tell you something, you want to take certain
(09:33):
things for granted, like how they plick call plays. Start
at the root, start at the route, learn how they order.
Learn what goes on in those rooms the film crew.
Learn what they do. Understand how they organize the plays
and how they create cutups and whatever it may be
(09:54):
that they're doing that's connected to it. Go into the
training room. Learn what they're doing, Learn how they are organized.
Learn what is the back you know, the backstory or
the thought process of how you're taking care of the players.
Go to the cafeteria, do the same exact thing. Go
out on the field. Learn how they're taking care of
the field. And while you may sit there and think that, oh,
(10:19):
like those are immaterial things, those things don't really play
a part. I'm going to start with the coaches because
I'm paying the coaches. They are super, super critical to
the functionality of your team. So if you're really saying
you want to learn and understand who you're paying and
(10:40):
what you're doing, then understand how it all fits together.
Don't don't don't open up a puzzle box and there's
only five pieces when it's a five hundred piece puzzle,
you don't. You don't see the full picture. That way.
So you have to be humble enough. If that's if
that's what you're going to give is your reasoning, then
you need to as the new owner of that team,
(11:03):
you actually need to walk yourself through the process. I
did it when I when we launched a beer, I
went to the plant. I watched the process. I learned
the process and what went into how they did everything,
and all the different things that and and even then,
I still I'm not there doing the entire process. I
(11:24):
don't understand every single minute, little detail. I understand it
enough to say, yep, I feel good about it. Yeah, right,
I should. He would have been diving in those those dips.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Excuse me, you can't. You can't bathe it.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You can't. You know that's the hot one, right, You're
going to burn yourself. He ain't even burning, it's immune
to burn it.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I can't take snorkels in there, sir.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Let me tell you something too. By the way, have
you guys ever did a tour of a brewery. It
tastes It tastes so much different coming right out than
it does when you get it at like you know,
the store or in the restaurant. It is amazing when
it comes right out. But I digress. The point I'm
(12:09):
making is I don't have a problem with her saying
she wants to understand it and learn it. More I
have a problem with don't skip, don't skip in the process,
don't skip up to the coaching staff. And really, for
what it's worth, she's the owner. She can be wherever
she wants to be and do it how she wants
to do it. But in reality, why put yourself in
(12:31):
the public eye. That way you can use those headphones.
Those headphones are cellular. She could sit anywhere, be anywhere
with some goggles looking at whatever it is she wants
to look at, and having somebody there that can help
her to understand it and talk her through it. She
could have her notepad out, take her notes, or have
somebody dictate what she's thinking. If she is truly that invested,
(12:56):
and I'll say that, if she's truly not invested, go
through the process. If not, it makes me feel like
it's a clout chase, like, oh, you're and I, and
this might get me some pushback. You're a girl, it's
you're in the NFL. That's a guy's sport. It's a
guys league, and you're now the owner. Are you clout chasing?
(13:17):
Are you trying to say y'all should respect me, because
now I understand what you guys are calling, what you're doing,
what it is. Don't turn it into one of those deals,
because to me, it only makes you look worse in
the end when you try to start talking about things
that you really don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
If she was you know, a girl, guy dog, I mean,
you know who cares? In my mind, because remember when
back during the draft, Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones were
sitting together and there was a story that came out
that Jerry Jones wanted Jimmy Johnson, when the camera was
focused on on the Cowboys war room, to be talking
(13:56):
with him, so it looked like Jerry Jones had some
influence on the next pick. It was all for optics,
it was all for clout chasing, if you will, And
Jimmy Johnson looked at him and just gave him a side.
I like, wait what And it's his team. He can
do whatever you want. It's her team now, she can
do whatever she wants. But at some point you've got
to have trust that the people you have in place
(14:19):
know way more about this stuff than you do, like
like know way more about it. And I'm saying that
as somebody who's also a non player, and so I
always defer to you guys to certain aspects of football
because you're always going to know way more.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Than I'm going to know.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Shout out to to Ryan Clark. But I just I
just think like there's got to be some level of
trust that Ay. As much as I want to be
in the know of what's happening here because it's my team, also,
I'm never going to know as much as those people know,
and I got to trust they're making the right decisions
out there.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
So I just want to be very clear in what
I am trying to communicate. She's not going to be
able to understand what's on a call. She just going
in there and listening on game days, Like she needs
to be there at practice too, them, she needs to
be there at every single thing they do to fully
understand in meetings and everything else. That's the depth of
what we're talking about. So LaVar brings up a good
(15:14):
point in regards to everything else that you know, how
the facility operates, how that impacts the players, how that's
a part of the experience. But also there's an element
of like, you're not gonna understand it if you're not
there for what was discussed in the meeting rooms, for
what was discussed during walkthrough during practice. So if you're
gonna do it, go all in, don't just stay. I'm
putting out a headset on Sunday and acting like that.
(15:36):
That's where you're gonna be able to understand it. Where
you're gonna be able to understand it is then watching
how it evolves throughout the course of the week and
gets put on that game sheet and called in that game.
So that's the sort of thing that I'm just trying
to point out that like in this league, man, you
get owners who get, as you've pointed out, like Jonas,
(15:57):
too involved to something they don't know because they are
the person writing the check and so instead of and look,
if they want to be involved because it is their team,
they can be.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
But then go all in.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Don't have a bunch of side pieces out there, don't
have a bunch of other things you're doing.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Go all in. And if you're not going.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
To stay the hell out of it, and what you
should do is figure out a way of how you
go about hiring and building the best possible team in
that business, in that sector, in that realm that can
then manage it and then help it, you know, go
win a super Bowl and have success. Like I don't
think there's like a you know, a dipping dipping her
(16:36):
toe in the water. I think you jump all the
way in or you stay your ass out of the pool.
And this to me, I don't know if it's for
optics or what it's for, but it sounds like not
the best plan as far as how to attack it.
And look, we might be ignorant to what she's doing
on a day to day basis to make sure she's
prepared for wearing a headset on Sundays, But hearing that
(16:57):
makes me concern for the organization and the team.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Saying doing all that and we don't want to do
all that.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
By the way, didn't hear Jim Mersey her dad, He
went through the process from the ground up like he
was He would did other jobs and took other responsibilities
before he took over the team, so he really knew
each level of all that that you were pointing to,
LeVar to where he learned all of these things, and
that's why you know he was so respected and I
(17:28):
don't recall him when he became owner, standing on the
sidelines with a headset on, like I don't recall any
of that happening, and that was somebody who went through
the process from the ground up. So it's just I
don't know. It's interesting, and I wonder how coaches and
people in the building there feel about that, or whether
(17:48):
or not she's pulling people aside saying hey, why did
you do this? Why was this happening, and whether or
not that's more of a detriment to Shane Styke and
what he's trying to get done there.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You don't know what people's agendas are, and you don't
know why they do what they do, or what people's
relationships may or may not be. You just there's so
many moving parts to a conversation like this, too many
unknowns to pull it all together.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, recklessly speculate sometimes.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well, I mean recklessly would be saying she's got a
relationship with one of her players. That would be reckless.
They wouldn't be the first like that happened. That would
be reckless. You want to understand, You want to understand
if one of your guys is getting the ball or not,
you know, anyway, But the point I was getting that,
I mean that that would be reckless if we were
to throw that assertion out there. But you know, to me,
(18:41):
I just look at it like this. You didn't build
that company. You didn't build that franchise. Your grandfather did
and whatever it is that he needed to do, he
did it. You know, that team didn't even start out
in Indianapolis. You know that it has a history, a deep,
rich history of what it represents. One of my favorite
(19:04):
players of all time, one of my lums, Lenny Moore
to Redding Rocket, you know, he's one of the greats
for that franchise, Johnny Uninus. You know, learn the history
of the game and understand it and be a fan
and appreciate it. And again, like what you said, what
I would say is make sure you have people that
(19:24):
have that same thought process, that have gone through the process,
understand it, have a reverence for it, a healthy respect
for the game and what it is that they do.
Super qualified for their job, because that's not what It's
probably not what you grew up and it was your
passion to do it, just probably wasn't. It's something that
(19:47):
you've inherited. Nothing wrong with your family creating something and
building something where you inherited it. But I think in
the end, if it's not something that you're willing to
really really learn every single aspect of from the bottom up,
put that time in for years. I mean the Titian
(20:09):
and Mirror family, they have their grandkids being locker porters,
learning the business, being around the players, like learning all
the facets and aspects of the game while they're younger,
and then they transition. You'll see the different levels of
their family. This group they're a little older, they're working
(20:29):
in film. This group's a little bit older, they're in scouting.
You know, you're seeing the process of how they're teaching
their kids how to be owners of the New York
Giants franchise. It's most likely why the current Mirror Mirror
kids that are running the team are have been so
(20:51):
successful in what they've been able to do. Maybe not
as a reason, but they have. I mean they do
have Super Bowls. I just think that that's to me.
If she came up, if she can say, you know
what this is something. If her response when she was
asked was I came up in this game. I was
raised in this game. I can tell you what this
(21:13):
is all about. I can explain to you. We don't
have enough time for me to explain to you how
well I know this game and how much I've learned
from the ground up through the years being the daughter
of my dad. If she had came with a different
type of reasoning, I think it would be received differently.
But I think her reasoning kind of gives light to
(21:37):
exposes that is she trying to overcompensate. Is she clout
chase chasing? It doesn't sound genuine If you ask me.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I would actually say it also gives her, you know,
reason to feel like she has calls for firing Shane
Steiken specifically, right if you think about it, because Chris
ballads on that headset like it almost points her target
directly at Shane Stikeen and trying to blame you know,
someone on the staff the way she described it, And
(22:08):
and that's to me, it's interesting to here.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
It could say, all right, does Chris Ballard have her ear?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Then?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Like he's the one that's been there the longest and
they haven't won a division title since he's been there,
But you're gonna put on Shane stiken I don't know
that that's That's the other part of this is like
it feels like it's helping her a build a case
if she wants to move on from at least Shane Stikeen.
I'm not sure how you look at that process. I
(22:33):
think that could be on Chris Ballard and the general manager.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Hey, by the way, I meant to ask you as this. Hey,
by the way, how come you never pull the you
didn't play card like Ryan Clark does with me? Why
not's that often time you did play?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I mean, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I don't feel like I need to expose my private
parts to y'a either, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You know, why would you want to do that because
we don't need to measure I don't. I don't. If
you're happy with your life and where you're at, and
you have opinions, you're happy with your life and you
have opinions. Just because one of us may be more
in doubt than the other doesn't mean that you know
you're lesser of a person. You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I guess I'll put it this way.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Everyone's got a different perspective and just simply coming from
the former player perspective doesn't mean that it should hold
more weight, right, I mean that the general masses don't,
you know, have any experience like players do or coaches do.
But but they're the ones watching and consuming, you know,
(23:43):
I know, like Big Cat and PFT. We're making fun
of the situation with the way they responded to that, saying,
how well, while he was on the grass, while he
was playing, we are the ones building up these hot
takes for for the media. You know, we were spending
all those years grinding watching the tape while you were playing.
(24:05):
So you don't have our experience and perspective in this
in this world of media, which is kind of funny,
but it's also kind of true, like they've been in
the game a lot longer.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
In that sense.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
My thing is like it's just to sit there and
say someone can't have a good point, a good perspective
on what's taking place purely because they didn't play, And
especially when some of these people who know the players,
who know the coaches, the agents, and they're being told
something specifically from that perspective, and they might even be
(24:39):
echoing that that's part of their job. That's part of
how we kind of translate what's going on to you know,
the people out there who aren't in that position, who
don't know the player or the agent, the coach.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
That's part's part of the story too.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
So I just you know, we don't need to put
a lot of energy or time into it. That guy's
his bed, he looks at things through what looks at
things through one prism, and you know it is what
it is.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I mean, I'm just letting you guys know, free pass,
let that fly anytime you want. I won't get sensitive
to it, like I won't be upset about it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
But the point I'm telling you is there is no
point to do it.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
We're like, it's fine, why not, it's kind of fun
just pants an the air from the time.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Such a small industry, Like think about how many people
are on our on our lineup, Think about how many
people are on their morning their their daily lineup. It's
not very many. And Shrakes is like, super well respected.
You're a team, you're you're on there together, You're there
to do a job. There's a gazillion people that will
want to be sitting in that seat and they're not there.
(25:44):
So it doesn't to me, it doesn't even cross my
mind to even feel like I got to do something
like that to prove a point. God, just you know,
I don't know. So I'm talking about and that's my
team car Se. That's just that's been some the point
of stuff he's been doing.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Well.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
That's great, But there's a lot of people who don't
like him because I remember when he was trying to
kill about me. People from ESPN reaching out and they're like,
I hate having to work with this guy, and I
was like, yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, he's like I said when I met Dom and
I knew Dom many many years ago, you know what
I mean. People change, you know, people change, So yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, it's all about that first good
sometimes it's bad. Uh oh, talk about.
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call it about twelve minutes from now here. On fsr SO,
Ryan Day, the head coach of Ohio State, he had
some comments about the single window that was proposed for
the portal in college football in January, and he had
this to say yesterday.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I don't think it's a good idea at all.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
In the conversations that we had with the Big Ten coaches,
I think the majority of them agree. I just don't
quite understand how, you know, for teams that are playing
in the playoffs are expected to, you know, make the
decisions and sign their upcoming players while they're still getting
(29:01):
ready to play for games.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
It doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
I know the calendar is funky, but you know, I
know that the Big Ten and Antony Petitti has been
working hard because he doesn't believe it either, and neither
the coaches in the Big Ten We had at a
lot of long discussions about that and tried to work
through the different windows. But I don't agree with it
being in January, right, So.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I assume the SEC feels the same way too. Those
are the two biggest conferences that matter.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Well, that's why I don't understand how does this all
come about? Then, Like you have coaches who are telling
you this isn't a good idea. Now, granted, a coach
who probably expects to be playing this time of year
coincides with the semi finals in National Championship, which I
do believe is bringing up a good point. Even though
it's only four teams, it really is tough, like on
(29:52):
the coaches, on the players. I think about if you're
a player who's a backup and you know, you know
you're not gonna get a chance to play there the
following year, but you're playing in the semi final game.
I mean, people both privile you're your backup falls right
(30:12):
in this category. The backup for Penn State last year
had to make a decision and because he knew Drew
Aller was going to be the guy, and he had
to transfer instead of being with his team through.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
It, and then goes down. If he goes down, we
do not have our real backup quarterback with like you're
talking about a matter of a week, right, We're talking
like a matter of a week. So that you've you've
basically impacted the college playoff with with this portal go ahead.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Well, and you wonder too, like what about what about
a player where like let's say the starter goes down
and it could be any position in the quarterfinal game,
and so the backups now thrust it into that role
for the semi final final. Yet can't transfer, Right, he's
got this window, he's got it out. This team has
a chance to play for national championship. You know you
can't do that. Yet when that starter comes back next year,
(31:06):
he's gonna be a back up. Like I just it's
not that complicated. I don't know why they can't look
at it and say, let's go to the spring window.
The spring window is the only window, and it allows
a couple of things. Let's say a new coach takes over.
Maybe that young man can stay at that school, go
through spring and figure out if he wants to be
(31:27):
there for this new coach or not know or figure out,
for example, if he's gonna be the starter or not.
And once that happens, you can say, yeah, I don't know,
I'm gonna go elsewhere. That's fine. You still have the summertime,
you still have training camp and all of that. I
don't know why they don't look at the spring window
for football and say this is the only window they need.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
They don't need to.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
It would allow a lot of the kids, you know,
to be able to make a sound decision, force them
to commit for a year to a place, and allow
the coach just to still be able to kind of
do the recruiting they do at the high school level
and play for national championship to not be impacted. It
doesn't seem this complicated. I don't know why or who's
pushing this whole January date, especially when you have the
(32:12):
defending national champions the head coach saying you him and
other than the big mothers in the Big ten don't
like it. And I can't imagine the SCC likes it
or the Big twelve of the ACC. I don't get
where this comes from.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Prabula even spoke about it afterwards, saying he didn't want
to leave, like he wanted to be a part of
the you know, the college football playoff and go through
the whole process. And it wasn't like he didn't get
any playing time last year. They used him in spots
last year. And of course and James Franklin had his
back afterwards said listen, this is not on him. Like
he said it back then, He's all he had no choice.
(32:47):
He had to do it, like he literally had to
do it. He didn't want to do it, but he
had to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And it just I mean, if he wanted to play
like like like, that's just because again, transferring is transferring,
right Like to me, there's the whole that's a whole
different conversation. If you've made the decision that you want
to transfer, there could be greener pastors other places. I
get that. So, but you didn't have to transfer. There's
(33:13):
always that, right. So, but having his back and being
supportive of what Bo did, I think we all were
within the community because we all understood what the scenario
was when Drew Allard declared that he was going to
come back this season. So but with that being said, again,
(33:34):
it is four teams that it was the quarterfinals of quarterfinals, quarterfinals,
I believe it would open after the quarterfinals, right after
the quarterfinals, and so to me, when I look at
it from that perspective, you're still like the teams that
are in the playoffs are probably impacted by it as well.
(33:59):
And I won't go too deep into that, but it's
just there's a lot of communication I would assume that
is taking place leading up to that portal opening up,
and I doubt it's by the players themselves. It's this
new age of agents are a part of this. Parents
are more activated in what's going on now. People make
(34:22):
it a point to put it out there what the
plan is going to be moving forward. Plus it's a
ten day window. That's not a large amount of time.
You're talking about thousands of young athletes that are going
into the portal, and these schools have ten days to
(34:44):
figure out what they want to do, not only with
those kids that are in or young young men that
are in the portal, but what they're going to do
with the players that are currently on their team. Now,
you got to take that into consideration. So I think
there's so many move elements in it that there should
be a fair opportunity where the time is used properly
(35:06):
by all teams. All things given, make it even in
terms of what that what that looks like, because if
a team is playing far into the playoffs or you know,
preparing for the playoffs, they're not preparing for You're not
just going to take this portion of your your team
and send them to to just recruit for the transfer portal.
(35:30):
So somebody's going to somebody's going to take an al
in that, and it just doesn't seem like that should
be how it is.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
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There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly all right.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Lead to lap who's got what well?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good and this week, Jonas, you are delivering those goods.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Oh Man.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Nothing better this weekend in the NFL than Aaron Rodgers
of the Pittsburgh Steelers going into the old Stomping Grounds
MetLife Stadium and ripping Levar's New York Jets in half,
going in there and looking Aaron Glenn's square in the
eyes and saying f you, buddy, fu and the you're
(37:42):
not good enough for our awful franchise.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
We don't need you anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
And he slices and dices for four touchdowns to open
up the year. That's my good of the week, Aaron
Rodgers sticking it to LaVar's New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Bamn, Well, Ken, have good without the bad.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Brady, what was bad this week?
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Well, we talked about the Colts ownership earlier, but you
know they have to be the team they played this week.
The Dolphins, they were just terrible. I believe Daniel Jones
would led scoring drives on every single drive. I mean,
I feel like the offense for the Miami was an
apt Their offensive line struggled and defensively, clearly they're having
a hard time getting off the field and stopping scores.
(38:22):
So I know it's week one, don't want to overreact,
but that was one of the games I Washington kind
of thought, oh Man, like the Colts didn't have high
expectations this season and the Dolphins didn't either.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Yeah, the Colts are blowing you out. So the Dolphins
were bad this week.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Well, as Mike McDaniel says, it can't get much worse,
but from bad two worst.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
LeVar, what was ugly this week?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You know, it's a competition, and I'll let the people choose.
But what's worse? Is it a Buffalo fan feeling as
though he could say, what the five fingers you did?
A face slot? Or was it Jalen Carter spitting in
or spitting on Dak Prescott's uniform? I don't know which
(39:10):
one is worse. Both inappropriate, both both have no place
shot in the game slack, but uh, yeah, you can
choose which one is worse. But those are for certain.
My my, that's the worst. You know, that's the ugly
for this week for me?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
What do you think is uglier?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You had.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
To choose?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Gun to your the spit spit is always gonna be worse,
like bodily fluids, Like I'm a tad bit of a germaphoe,
Like I don't I'm not really into shaking hands all
like that. I do, but I'm really into it all
bro is shockingly Oh. I don't let people see it
because I feel like it's offensive, but I definitely like
(39:56):
like the fist pound. I mean, I ain't gonna know
Johnny what's his name? Or Manzel or men you know,
the one guy, but Howie Mandel, Howie Mandel, I ain't
on that close on that level.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
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