September 25, 2025 • 49 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros & A Cup of Joe, Jonas, Brady, and LaVar debate if Brian Daboll and Jaxson Dart officially ended Russell Wilson's career. The guys react to Micah Parsons addressing his return to Dallas and discussing the news of the lack of a tribute video. Plus, Tom Brady speaks out on his heavily-debated conflict of interest.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple. Joe
with Labar rings and rating Winn and Jonas Knox on
four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The New York Giants. Oh, they have have found. They
have they have found the long term plan, and the
long term plan at quarterback is Jackson Dart. They're not
playing Wilson's anymore. They're playing darts. And Brian day Ball,
the head coach of the Giants, explained his decision yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I met both with Russ yesterday and Jackson privately, and
Russ was nothing but a pro, which I expect them
to be. It's my decision. We're going with Jackson. We're
gonna get him ready to play this week and the
remainder of the season. He's gonna do everything he can.
Russe will be the backup. It's my decision and we're
going with Jackson.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
There you go long term.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
He was a pro in the meeting, but he cried
in the car.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
No, man, he's you know, he's he's such a good dude.
Everyone gives and.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I'm just saying I cried in the car Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Tuesday, he was at at the children's hospital visiting sick kids,
and that's when obviously, you know, this is all I
started to kind of make waves that it was coming out,
and I just you know, that's one of the things
I respect most about Russell is even during one of
the hardest times in his career and as a public figure,
where he is the punching bag for everyone out there,
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he's still trying to bring joy to kids who, in
some cases, you know, may not ever really be able
to live the life that they had hoped to live.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
So I know, I'm trying to bring down the moment
to some seriousness.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
But definitely killed. I was ready.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
And guess what, I.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Don't care how many of those kids care. How many
those kids were like, get glad you mood killed? How
many those kids were like, hey, get Jackson in here?
Who want the starter?
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Well you send in the back of which which which again,
like it's it's it's funny to make it's it's great
to make fun of it again making the punching bags.
But these are kids who are terminally ill. These are
kids who like may never get out, you know, And
so like that's the thing is like he's he's the
punching bag for everyone else, meaningwhile he's trying to bring
a little bit of like light to all these other
young kids. And he's man enough to go out and
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do it despite the fact that, like his career is
not going the way he wants it to. So I'm
sure he handled it like a pro. Kudos to him.
And you know, if people want to make fun of him,
they can make fun of him about it. But he's
more of a man than most because I don't know
anyone who. I mean, Jonas won't even leave a wall
at a National championship game between Georgia and TCU to
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talk to people.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I can't imagine if he was going through what like
one of our cast members who's not a part of
the show right now, is going through, he would stand
up and go out in public and et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So I mean, if there were kids there would sorry, yeah,
well that's sounds a little creepy now the way you're saying.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
But I don't know, Jonahs, have you ever done charity work?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Meaning what like?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Answer is no?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I mean I know your wife did, but have you
ever done what's that mean?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, she's with you, buddy, that's the chair.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
She said. You missed that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
No, no, no, I no, I got that.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I got that.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I didn't I didn't know you were going to be
so hot and bothered this morning over When.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Have you I didn't make When have you ever need
to be sensitive of movie?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, I don't know why Brady's so sensitive about the
Russell Wilson topic.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
I'm not being sensitive about it. I'm just saying, like, well,
first off, here's the thing is, no one would know
what this.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Is like more than me on this show.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
All Right, I've been benched, I've been talked to and
and just had this discussion behind the scenes. I've had
in Cleveland with Brian Dabele, had in Kansas City with
Brian Dable. So trust me, like I've been through this
scenario what it sounds like, both publicly.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
And the reality is they're an own three football team
and they're trying to make a change, to make.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
A spark like that. That's what they didn't even pick them.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You did not even pick them out of two New
York teams that are struggling. You, my friend, did not
even pick the New York jan I do not want
to hear this soapbox self righteous discussion about gat dang
Russell Wilson he washed. Look at their schedule, he's washed,
and you know what, so of New Well, I think
it would be tough to Giants.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
It would be tough for anyone to go in and
turn that around. Right now, they're just not where they
need to be and it's going to be tough.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
To turn around.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
To Jones's point, look at their schedule, it's a much
tougher schedule.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I do wonder this about Russ though, I don't what
do you want, well, I don't think he's washed, Like
when I watch him play.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
On you think he is.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
He's like a spiffy clean.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I just through for four and fifty yards like two
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I just think that he's been in situations where either
he's been the scapegoat or they've wanted to try and
hand the keys over to a younger player. He's just
been in see like bad spots. And I don't know
that there are other spots for him, but it's almost like.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
That's not what it was in Pittsburgh. They gave him
that job.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
In Pittsburgh, there wasn't ay they I mean, Justin Fields
was out there, but that was because Russ couldn't be
out there. I wasn't because they benched him, and then
the first chance they got, they put him back in.
So I don't I don't know that that's an accurate
and narrative, accurate narrative of Russell Wilson's latest situations that
he's dealing with.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I don't know that to be true.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Could you find a would you take Russell Wilson? Could
you find a spot for him in the NFL that
you say that team starting quarterback. I'll take Russ over
that team starting quarterback.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
You saying, I mean that's one team. I think you
take him in Miami? Would you not?
Speaker 6 (05:49):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I take a chance with Tua if I'm putting Russell
Wilson in, I take a chance with with Tua just
because I paid him and and I'm gonna get my
money's worth out of that. I just now the same Sames.
That seems kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I take him in Minnesota. I would take him in
Minnesota over both Carson and J. J. McCarthy no knocks.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
The Saints might be the only one that really makes sense,
and that's just because they're just really bad without a quarterback?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What about but what about Tennessee? No, you wouldn't take
him over cam Ward?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Nope, let cam learn, let him make them the mistakes,
let him learn. But that's what number one overall.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But it just feels like he doesn't there's not a
spot for him, which sucks, and and there should be
because that.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Is a spot. What do you mean on a team
he's the backup.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, but he didn't go there to be a backup.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
There's nothing wrong, Like I don't understand this whole thing,
like you're a failure because you're a back up. Come on,
the dude has been to two Super Bowls, he won one.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I mean he's he's he's a backup. That's what he is.
He's a backup. He threw fo a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Of yards against who who was that they ended up losing?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
And and was that your Dallas Cowboys? Cowboys?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Your Cowboys?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I mean, the dude can still obviously serve up some plays.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
But it's over, Johnny, It's it's finished. Put him in
a body bag.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
He's a backup, and it's okay, it's okay, But why
are you trying to make him something that he's not
he's not a starter anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You're sorry, what's your problem with Russ?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I don't have a problem with Russ. Like he goes
to see the kids, and he's a great role model.
He's a man of God. Like, he's a man of faith.
I have no problem with I don't even know Russell Wilson,
never met him a day in my life. Don't know
who he is outside him as a football player. I
have no problem with Rush. You know what I have
a problem with when we try to force feed somebody
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to be a starter, when their career pattern and path
has led to them being a backup.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Here's what I find most interesting about this is, well, no,
you're you're saying he's a backup now, which he is.
He's been demoted. We haven't seen Jackson Dart do anything yet.
Like you're assuming he's going to go in and give
them a better level of play. Well, that's what we're assuming,
that going to give me more. I'm not assuming that.
(08:35):
I said, Well, we don't know. But here's what I'm saying.
You just said, what's wrong. We don't know that he's
not going to give them more. We haven't seen Jackson
Dart yet, so until we see Jackson Dart. We don't
know how to compare between the two.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
I'm not trying to compare. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
That's what that's what the Giants are.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Russell Wilson is the backup.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Do you think I don't care where he goes he's
going to be the backup?
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Do you think of sept Okay, I'll put it this way.
I'll put it this way.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
I'll ask both of you guys this as Russell Wilson
played the last snap that will play this year for the.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Giants, barring injury.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yes, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I saying, I don't even know even if there's an injury,
I don't know that he goes back in all right,
I don't think he's saying. I don't say he's taking
his last snap. I'm gonna say, yes he has. Okay,
I'm gonna say yes. I don't think Heyes. You're more
likely to get struck by lightning walking out your front
door today than Russell Wilson is to start as the
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New York Giants quarterback again this season.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I know what this is.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
There's a lot of like Black on Black crime with
LeVar Can, there's a.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Lot of I can't stand LeVar.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
I love me some, LeVar. What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
No, you can't stand.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Tiger is not black, Tiger is other Like that's not
var LeVar said, that does not count as black on
black crown.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And in fact, Lvar hates my phone because Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I mean, he's not.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
My case for my phone.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's like, get that case.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Out of here, so get youself a white case.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Y'all tripped out? Man, y'all trying to turn this into
like racial thing.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's not all right? Can I ask you this about it?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I'm just obs.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Y'all the biggest hater haters ever in the moment I
have a moment. Y'all want to start, y'all, Man, that's
what y'all do, though, That's that's what y'all do.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
People guys don't like count.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
BB.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
People hat BB.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So can I let me ask you as this. Do
you think that if Brian dave Ball was in his
first year as Giants head coach, he would have made
the switch by now? I don't think so, because I
I think this has everything to do with him.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Really, I don't know. I I knew dave Ball very
early on. I think he would have been more have
to make the switch. I think he's actually yeah, I
think he's actually mellowed and matured in that sense of
how he's handling you know, things and adversity specifically. So yeah,
I think early on he probably would have have made
(11:19):
it after like week one, So this is this is
you know, you gave it three three games, you know,
I think after Dallas, you're like, all right, he's playing
well enough besides the one decision, and then this past.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Week is like, all right, it's it feels like it's time.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
And that's the reality of it is the kid had
a great preseason.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Let's put him in and see what he's got.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
But like I said before, I've been through this personally,
like I don't think this is the last snaps that
Russell Wilson takes this year.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I just think it's unfortunate for russ and in this
scenario because it is a it's just not a good team.
It's just not a good team, and you're you're rounding
that corner of heading into being zhero and four because
I do not even at home see them defeating the
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Chargers this weekend. They gotta wait until the Saints, and
they got to go into New Orleans, and like I said,
it's not a given that you could go in and
win in New Orleans. Even if you're looking at it
as how bad, how to how bad this team is
and can be the New Orleans Saints that might be
their win. Like that's about it. That's how I see it.
(12:33):
I mean, then they got the Eagles, after that, the Broncos,
the Eagles. Again, it's not like you guys talked about
with the scheduling. It's not a schedule that is a
forgiving schedule. So if you're oh and three to start
out with, you might as well start the development of
Jackson dark even if even if even if you're eventually
(12:56):
going to possibly lose your job, you said you don't
feel like it's a your job type of scenario. I
tend to think it is. I feel like this is
like that final season to be a poor team. And
whether it's his fault or not, whether it's on the
blame of something else as to why this Giants team
is continuing to underperform. I just think that the time
(13:19):
has run out on Russell Wilson, But the time is
also running out on on day ball as a head coach,
of this team, So why not why not see if
you can switch it up?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Why not see if Jackson.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Dark can give you any type of hope or feeling
that maybe we do continue on with day ball, maybe
we do try to give it a little bit more time,
because you can't make that argument if you're keeping Russell
Wilson in as you're starting quarterback and possibly continuing to
have the same results that you've had through three games
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so far.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
I think the problem with that and I understand what
you're saying because everyone always says this when a team
drafts a rookie quarterback and there's.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
An expectation friend to play.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
The problem is is people think that it's gonna save
the head coach's job, and it never works out that way.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
It never does.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
When there's a coach that's on the hot seat or
there's pressure on him coming into the season and they
make this move, it doesn't matter unless that quarterback equates
to a bunch of wins. It usually ends up with
them getting fired. I mean, if I'm not mistaken, go
back to was it Mitchell Trubisky?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh yeah, John Fox?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
I mean John Fox put him in and that was
the That was the whole expectation, so got fired at
the end of that year. Right then comes in Matt
Naggy Like it's there's there's other examples of that too,
where that the change is made and the thought is, well,
coaches on the hot.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Seat, it'll help save and it will help give him
another year.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
No, most owners look at it and they actually end
up saying, we need to bring in someone who we
feel like can develop this guy because the guy who's
currently here now we just witness that and he ca.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Drake May last year.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Drake May is another example, and.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
That was I could I could give you a long list.
I mean, you know you could, you could go on
down whoever it's been. But it's it's just that that
logic usually never in reality equates to a coach saving
their job. Like, I think ownership's gonna make that decision regardless,
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and I think they're gonna separate the two.
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Speaker 10 (16:48):
Some Yeah, no.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
No, come on, Var, come on c I always think
that Var is gonna get into it more though.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Mm hmm, chilling man. You know, I can't. I can't
be y'all can y'all should not.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Be able to you know, peer pressure you.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
No, no, no, no, no, just.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
I just like to think that we're like three brothers,
you know, just three brothers hanging out and get each
other a hard time.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
That's that's true.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
And you're the big bro, and we all kind of
like like to poke at you a little bit, you know,
we'd like to poke the bear a little bit, try.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
To get your goal.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, clearly I only got one out of the two parents,
and maybe y'all got both of the parents. And I'm
the older one, so I'm like the one that came
into the situational where you know, y'all's parents found love
and made y'all too.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
It's got com quick. Yeah. I just thought we were
all brothers, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
We are like like the movie with ty Reese and
all of them.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yeah, what was that? Was that? Five brothers or yeah, yeah, yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Probably the most wild scene in that movie, and there
were some fun ones, was when they just walked into
a basketball gym started like throwing guns around.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
You remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I do, I do.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
I was like, this is an interesting scene.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, I don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Well, they probably didn't watch the movie though. I want
to say four brothers. I believe it's called four Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Think it's four brothers.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
You're right, yeah, yeah, two of each.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You know, Oh you had never seen it. One was
like Mark Wahlberg and who was the other one?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well, isn't he on your team?
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Well you could say that, you could say that. I mean,
Mark can go either way. Mark.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Mark is accepted in Josh Charles different cultures that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You know who he is. He's the I know who
he is of NFL Network, all the Football Life documentaries.
He's from Baltimore. He's big football. Yeah, so he does
the voiceover for all the Football Life stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Wait, Sophia Vicaro, isn't that huh? No, wonder I liked
that movie so much. Makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Now let me tell you. Let me tell you pedal
to the Medal to this.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
They sit four brothers. You ain't catch on to that.
You had to have a never mind?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We had that? What never mind?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
How do you get that? Let's move on.
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Speaker 6 (20:03):
Don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Based on yesterday's discussion, don't care.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
See that some means the sort of closed mind thinking
though that people have today, like I would I would
actually do the opposite, like you spin it and you're like, hey,
we made people who weren't fans in the past big fans.
Now every time they go to state college, they're staying
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Speaker 5 (20:26):
Like that is the exact opposite line of thinking.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
That's the closed mindedness of our society at this point,
is they don't think there's like another way or another path.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Oh, there always is, you know, I do. Can I
not to go back to yesterday's conversation about this.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
If you go on social media, though, you'll see enough
guys who are like they'll go travel around to these
nicer hotels and then they'll still find like bed bugs
or disgusting stuff five star hotel. Which if that's happening
in a five star hotel, what do you really got
to think that it's another one?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Exactly, it's got to be awful, absolutely awful.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Lorena said she worked at a hotel that.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
She was what don't do it?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Why do it?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Don't tell us what she was doing.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
I was a housekeeper. What I was a housekeeper one
of my first jobs in high school. I was probably
one of the worst housekeepers there. I was very slow.
I'd turn on the TV in every room or put
on some music, and then when the other girls would
finish their whole hallways, they would come up and help me.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So, eh, it wasn't my career. I didn't, you know,
the ambition was not there.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Did anybody leave ambition to be a lifelong a lifetime
house cleaning?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, just you know, it seem like it was my thing.
It's honest work.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I hope it wasn't.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
My manager had been there a long time.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Did anybody leave tips for you?
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, I love finding a little five dogs?
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Do you know they were hips well because.
Speaker 11 (22:01):
They already checked out, and they leave money on the
counter for you. And sometimes they' leave a nice note
that says thank you for folding my sheets.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I always do that. I always leave a thank you
note in a little bit of cast. We don't care Jonas,
letting you know, man like.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
You, I take care of my my my house, and.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
He stays in bad hotels too, So kudos on you, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Oh yeah, kudos. I don't see what that's a kudos
kudos for what?
Speaker 6 (22:26):
What? What?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
What?
Speaker 6 (22:27):
What's what's wag points?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
What?
Speaker 6 (22:29):
What do you get.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
From that hotel?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
All right?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
All right? I mean everything else?
Speaker 7 (22:39):
You're saving money in your hotel room so you can
tip the housekeeper, yeah.
Speaker 11 (22:44):
Stupid and buy nicer food when you go out.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Yeah, we had a nice steak dinner or stand over
there at the super eight.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Though, Who cares where you're sleeping. It's about where you're eating.
That's the most important thing.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
We I mean, you should be able to do both
Jonas like I'm gonna go to a cheapy hotel, like,
come on, broh wrong that I mean, I would say
you're full of it. But I do see what you
drive to work now, I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I guess you super starts leaving, uh, leaving Lorain a
tip after every show and telling her great job on
the board today, and go drive that that truck home.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Pay for my juices. I gotta I got a super
eight on wheels, is what I got.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
That's my truck. No, you don't what I got.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
You got that trip trip sevens on? Hey got that trip?
Is that what it was called? The one down the street?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Down the street, Yeah, you got that trip seven.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Let me tell you something, pal, all right, that'll make
forty five minutes go by in a hurry that place
if you need it, if you're into that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But all right, I don't know, man, I don't know
about you either. I don't dang well, okay, I don't
want to know about me.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
If one thing I know about LeVar is I would
create a tribute for him if I could.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
There is a Penn State players not get a tribute
when he gets.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Back to Dallas.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I know that Jerry Jones made the statement earlier this
week that with the Big Game Micah Parsons return to
Dallas as a member of the Packers, that they have
no plans to honor Michah Parsons, all right, no hard feelings,
just no plans to honor him in any way, no
tribute or anything like that. And so Michah Parsons was
asked about that, and this is his response.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
There's a lot of things I can consider disrespectful throughout
this process, but I wouldn't say the tribute is.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
One of them.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
You know, there's horror feelings maybe there for them.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You know.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
For me, I'm happy where I'm at and we got
a really good football team.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
So I guess I can give.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You my tribute a when all right, why would they
tribute him? He was there four years? What are we like?
What are we talking about here? It's not like a decade.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
It is interesting, like, I've never have they ever done
a tribute for a player who just was drafted there
than traded.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think so, I really get it.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
They did with a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
He's not on a farewell tour. And I think that
that's what it would come down to. I mean, his
body of work would say, you could, you know, maybe
acknowledge him. But how many players that have had really
really fine careers with one organization end up at another
organization and they don't Like I could see if Bobby
(25:28):
Wagner returned to Seattle, right, you want to do a
tribute of Bobby Wagner.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Okay, super Bobby's on his left, right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And you're on your last lag of your career, like
you know, is this the last year? Maybe this is
the last one, Like I could get that, But he's
got so much he's got so much.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
More career left.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And and again, like you said, what what was the
significance of of of I would say this, he could
arguably be on the list of short a very short
list of most dominant defenders to ever have played for
the franchise. But I don't even know if that. Yes, Bro, again,
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look at that man's stat line. Look at his stat line.
It's I mean twelve plus sacks in the first what
three years of his career, Like, bruh, that that that's
that's nobody does that one sack. Nobody does that one
sacond four playoff games.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
So what.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
They got one winning in those amounts of playoff games.
I mean that's a team thing.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Like.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
So what.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
All I say is, bro the dude, you can't you
can't discredit him by saying he got one in a
play a playoff game like and that amount of playoff games.
The dude's body of work is his body of work.
It is what it is, whether it was late in
his career or whether it's early. He happened to have
done it early, this early in his career, right out
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of the gate. You don't let those type of players go.
And the circumstances of which he's he's left, you might
think that they might acknowledge him. Maybe I don't know,
I'm not I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I could understand them doing it for Dak He's had
a much better run in Dallas. But I'm not just
for Cooper Rush.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You know when he because he he is he there
Cooper Rush.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
That Yeah, that year you were all over him.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
He's somewhere else now, isn't he. He's not there anymore,
is he?
Speaker 7 (27:37):
You know what My favorite part though about that Cooper
Rush here where you're all about him?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Yeah, we got to play the music like.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I'm actually a big Rush fan. Rush.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Oh, Cooper Rush in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah, I know that makes sense. Yeah, he fits, he
fits right there.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
He's like the new Trip.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I mean, nothing in the offense would change if Lamar
got hurt in kid same offense.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I mean I would probably not say the same exact thing.
If Cooper Rush got in for for Lamar Jackson, waiting
for Lamar to get back now, just so happens whoever
the backup is in Dallas, I would be saying, Wow,
that might be a better option.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
He really is the only back. He's the only other
quarterback there in Baltimore talking.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
About playing with fire.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Oh god, I kind of forgot about that storyline coming
into the season, and now we're here, so maybe they
should go off the Russ Like that would make all
the sense in the world.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, because of Cooper Rush Russ.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
No, No, you're good with Cooper rush Man, You're good
with him. He's good backup. Just like Russ is a
good backup. That's what they have in common. Anyway, Uh,
they could honor Michael Parsons, wouldn't wouldn't surprise me or
shock me, and he like listen, it didn't end the
way that we want it, but we had some really
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good times.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
It's a good good, feel good story.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Instead, they allow it to be bulletin board material, allowed
to be a motivating factor. I could guarantee you on
one side of it, you're always going to have that
team say let's get this one for Micah, let's get
this one for let's get this form.
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Let's yeah, let's go guys.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
And then they rilly around one another.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
It's not the same intensity to get at Michael Parsons
as a Dallas cowboy. It's it's just not the team
that gets rid of you is kind of like we
got rid of you, you know, Like I try to
have a good day.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
I just I don't know why this is a topic
of conversation, like who brought this up about a tribute video?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Like I think what Jerry Jones was asked about. He's
like no, like you know, no hard feelings. I'm just
not you know.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
What Dweed in Dallas was like, oh, we should have
a tribute video, Like, well, again, it's even that, Like,
what did they accomplish if they want a super Bowl
in those four years? Okay, it might make some sense.
They didn't do anything. Like LeVar just used an example
of Bobby Wagner. They won a Super Bowl with him,
the Legion of Boom. They went to two, like they
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they have accomplishments, Like Dallas didn't do anything.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
M hmm, I'm with you, man, Like there's like, like.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Tom Brady comes back, obviously they're gonna have a tribute
for what he was able to accomplish Tampa, New England, whatever.
You know, it's like they accomplished something, like what are
you attributing to.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
He's got two first time All Pros, four Pro Bowls.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Yeah, that's that's like a pat on the back type thing.
That's not a team things Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
That's that's him doing his best for that team. To
win two time All Pro First team in four years.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I would be curious to see the team. I would
be curious.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I would be curious to see how many players in
the league are two time first team All Pros in
the first four years of their career.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
I'd be curious of that.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
I'd be cure is to see that one four Pro
Bowls every like he's gone to the Pro Bowl every year,
so he's proven to his team and to his fan
base that he is the elite of the elite in
in the league.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Like I'm not.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
There's dudes and there's dudes in the Hall of Fame
right now that don't have to first team All.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Pro bids and four Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Dudes in the in the in the Pro Hall of
Fame would look it up.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I'm not doing a tribute video for a long time ago.
I'm not doing a tribute video for a guy who
was part of a one in three and actually the
main reason they were one and three in the postseason
with one sack. I'm just not in four years, I'm
not doing it.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I'm not going for your You're you're trying to.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
If you if you want to do a tribute video
for Mike, you might as well do one for Lee.
I mean, like, like, what are we doing here? Like
it's like this, It's like the again.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I mean there, it might be difference, there might be
a reason to have, uh a memorial. No, no memorial
what what we just say tribute a tribute video or
tribute deal for Lee.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
I mean it could be possible. I mean, our show
is how many years old?
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Five?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I got news for you. Lee's got one less playoff
sack than Michael Parsons at this point, and it tells
me everything I needed.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Lee's got more misshows than Michael Carson's does.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I mean, I don't recall Micah ever missing a game,
like just not showing up, like I'll show up with
like three minutes left in the game.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
LeVar just turned the gun around. It was like, no, no,
not now, not shooting me up, just saying so so yeah,
that's the that's the update there. But it should be
a fun environment. I'm sure everybody will be fired.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
You think. You know what makes it better?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
If they had some original Louisiana hot sauce at the tailgate.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
You know what. It's the perfect balance of peppers, vinegar,
and salt.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Put it on your wings, put it on your your burgers,
all that, put it on all of it. Hit any
tailgate food with the bold, hand crafted flavor of the original.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Louisiana hot sauce. That's Le'sana hot by you shown there
you go far.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Come to the Stick City tailgate too. I'll beat it
Saturday Spike Stadium.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And by the way, you know, uh, you know what else,
Louisiana hot sauce is good in clam chowder.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Clam chowder a big clowder.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
You're a big clam guy, big time. Yeah, you used
to like to What do you mean.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
You ever try barbecued baked barbecue?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
By the way, if anybody is uh thinking about crabs,
tell people you ordered them, you didn't get them. Yeah,
they're a clear difference between the two.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
You don't want someone walking on the conversation saying like, oh,
crabs are my favorite.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, my god, just letting you know.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I mean, but people from Maryland would be offended by that,
you know why, because crabs are it, especially the Blue Ones.
Hook me up with some crabs, man, I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Listen, if you uh, that can be arranged. But if
anybody tries to give you a hard time about that,
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Speaker 6 (34:59):
Thanks man, Tell them the bounce.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Smooth with your white ass dall you all right? Coming
up next here, we are going to have a conversation
about somebody who's pushing back.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
This is a big topic of discussion over the past
week or so, but they've decided to push back a
little bit. You'll get into that for you right here
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over fifteen minutes from now, we are going to hand
out an award on this show. And I believe that
this award will draw criticism from members of this show,
So we'll get into that for you here on Fox
Sports Radio. So you remember last week we were talking
(36:19):
about the Tom Brady conflict of interest stuff and there
was the well, how could we forget? Yeah, just it
wouldn't go anywhere. It was all of all of the
rage and the rave last year last week in the NFL,
and people talking about, well, you know, he can't do both.
And he was seen in the booth on Monday Night
Football and he's calling the Bears Cowboys game and then
(36:41):
the Bears are playing the Raiders this week and all
that stuff to go along with it. And so Tom
Brady has a post called do your job all Right?
This is he likes to on tom Brady dot com.
He writes these periodically, and he just went through a
long list of accomplishments principles that he stands by and
(37:05):
went on to say the following, I love football at
its court it's a game of principle, and with all
the success it has given me, I feel I have
a moral and ethical duty to the sport, which is
why the point where my roles in an interest is
not actually of a point of conflict, despite what the
paranoid and distrustful might believe. Rather, it's a place from
which my ethical duty emerges to grow, evolve, and improve
(37:28):
the game that has given me everything. Right, So he's
pushed back on that. He's also pushed back on a
number that was thrown out by Dave Portno. I believe
that he got seventy five million dollars to be a
part of this Saudi flag football extravagance that they're putting on.
He took to social media and said the following, Are
(37:51):
we just picking numbers out of a hat and reporting
them while we're breaking news? Elvis is doing the halftime show,
Babe Ruth is going to sign some autographs for fans,
and I also Dave prefers floppy pizza, who cares about facts?
Speaker 6 (38:02):
Right?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So he's taped making a point to Uh to push back.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Was he take it? Was that a subliminal message floppy Pizza?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
I don't know that might have been a shot. You
know some people like perky Pizza. Yeah, if you know,
that's one way of putting it.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Yeah, with a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
What was the first thing he's pushing back on, like people,
what his conflict of paranoid that he can't do both
that he can't broadcast games and also have integrity.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
When if people are paranoid and what Jonas, Oh, that's
let me get the exact quote. Paranoid and scared afright.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
What did he say? It's pretty strong.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I mean the paranoid and distrustful, my believe.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Oh, distrust So this is and I'll just kind of
pull back the current a bit. People have always talked about, hey,
why don't you call her name? Games for NBC and
and'll be very transparent. There have been conversations in the
past with NBC about potentially doing that job. And one
(39:08):
of the things that from that network side, because if
you looked at who they've actually put as their analyst
for those games, it's actually been like a rival. It
hasn't ever been an alum, at least not on the
TV side of things. It's been Pat Hayden, right, who's
you know, played at USC who was an athletic director.
(39:28):
There after, actually he left the booth became the athletic director,
which talk about a conflict of interest. You know, Doug Flutie,
who was obviously a great quarterback at BC, which is
you know, kind of a rival, and so there was
a thought that NBC already has the home games for
Notre Dame, so they don't want it to be like
(39:49):
a biased broadcast. Now, I think logic would tell you, well,
it's it's obviously more biased because you literally have the
same crew and these same network exclusively doing those home games.
So inherently it's going to be somewhat biased because that crew,
that network knows that those players that university that much better.
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So you're kind of talking from that angle. And mostly
everyone's tuning in to NBC to watch Notre Dame, so
you know, it's hard probably for some people to listen
to a Doug Flutie, to listen to even Drew Brees,
who you know played for Purdue and in state rival.
So you know, some of the conversations have always been
(40:31):
like well, you know, like people have asked before like well,
would you be able to do it? And or if
the conversation is, well, how would you be unbiased if
you're going to call Notre Dame games. And I've said
to him, I was like, you know, one year I
called like four or five Southern col games. I go,
so clearly my bias would lead you to think that
I'm not going to talk favorably about sc But if
(40:53):
you listen to any of those calls, you wouldn't have
came away thinking that. So the reality of it is,
there's a job that you have to do. There's no
doubt Tom Brady can compartmentalize, where as far as what
he does on TV is what he does on TV
where he doesn't have to allow his emotions, his feelings,
you know, his biases to be any part of that.
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And then there's the job that he has to do
as the owner of a franchise. So is there some
information that he could use to his advantage? I'm sure
you know how beneficial it is.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
But at the end of the day, like like the
TOOTHPAS is out of the bottom of the tube, like
this has already been approved, it's not going back in.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Like I don't even know why.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
He feels the need to address it, because there's there's
no concern at this point, it's just all people who
want to make something up to talk about because they
see him in the booth, you know, up there, like
he's calling plays for the Raiders, Which even if that's
the case, what are the Raiders now one and two?
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Right? So, like, it's not like that's worked out?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Well, what an impact?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, listen, like you said, it is already decided. It's
already happened. So have a problem with it if you don't.
The bottom line is the reason why people have a
problem with it is because they probably already have a
problem with Tom Brady for one reason or another, and
(42:18):
it's probably not even specific to this particular scenario. It's
Tom Brady. So to me, when I look at it,
can you create valid reasoning behind why this is a
conflict of interest and why it doesn't maybe make sense?
Of course you can. But the reality of it is
(42:42):
is that many people are benefiting from what Tom Brady
is representation of. He is a play caller for or
you know what, however you want to call it for Fox,
and he has ownership interest in the Raiders, so he
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helps Fox, he helps the Raiders, he helps the NFL.
There's probably countless other major companies that benefit from him
being in the positions that he's in, And at the
end of the day, if it's impacting the bottom line,
they're not worried or concerned about the other line items
(43:26):
that are there. And if people can't understand that, tough
tough beans like so what you can say what you
want to say. If you're media, you can say what
you want to say. If you're peers or or you
know people in the industry, you could be a common fan,
doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. If you're not being impacted on
(43:47):
the bottom line with what Tom Brady represents, then maybe
you have a strong opinion about what's going on and
it might not be favorable. But to those who are
impact by it positively, they couldn't be more aestatic that
people continue to talk about Tom Brady and bring him
(44:07):
up into different ways because at the end of the day,
you know what, Tom Brady hasn't done really anything wrong.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
He really hasn't done anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
So you could we can pinpoint certain things that may
have been done when he played. You could say that, oh,
he he this is a conflict of interest where he
is now. But the bottom line is is Tom Brady
has been a dude that really largely has done everything
the right way, and so it's kind of like a
(44:37):
It's like a trivial conversation like what is it? What
does it really matter in the end? What does it matter?
The other thing?
Speaker 5 (44:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
He pushed back on the report that he's getting seventy
five million dollars to be a part of that Saudi
flag football game or league whatever it is. It's like,
what's the problem If he's getting seventy five million dollars
to be a part of a flag football game? Who cares?
Speaker 6 (45:03):
Well? It's I mean the way he makes it sound. Cue.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
You may know better because you be around Portnoy, but
it sounds like to me that that ain't what it is.
Like whether he's getting he's seventy one or seventy two,
it just sounds like it's not the correct number, and
he's taken advantage of the fact that, oh incorrect number
was put out there is what I would say to that.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
Look, I haven't talked to Dave about it, so I
don't know where Dave got that information or how he
would know that. My thing is, I mean, look, they've
had as big Kat talked about. I think they were
offered like ten dollars or so to go just to
peer at something for the Saudis, and they weren't willing
to do that. Now, maybe that was too low. Maybe
(45:48):
they would have done it for a higher number. That's
irrelevant to the conversation. Uh, it's always tough, I feel
for most people to accept whatever offered. That is, there's
a lot of ties, there's a lot of feelings and
emotions towards nine to eleven. Who is behind that, how
the Sadis could be potentially connected to that? That is,
(46:10):
that is always a part of the conversation for most
people who get involved in these sorts of deals. And
for some people they don't believe there's an issue, or
they don't have a conflict in their mind, or for
some people it feels like the price that they're paid
for it eliminates whatever conflicts in their mind because it's
too good an opportunity to pass up on. So there's
(46:32):
a lot of sensitivity to you know this specific you know,
Saudi flag football deal, and kind of curious to how
much he is being compensated.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
But I don't know the number.
Speaker 7 (46:45):
I just know that for most people they feel one
way or another about it. It's a very polarizing topic.
They're and they're not going to change, Like it doesn't
matter how much. More like the live tour for example,
continues to you know, find it way into different events
in the US and and kind of.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Partnering with different TV partners.
Speaker 7 (47:05):
People are just gonna view it a certain way and
there and they're not gonna change the feelings about that.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
And that's the right.
Speaker 7 (47:11):
So I think that the tough part when I when
I heard like he was a part of it, I
was thinking in my head, ooh, like you know Tom Well,
because Tom Brady is a polarizing figure because of his success.
To me, he's never polarizing because of who he is
as a man, Like I think he always tries to
do the right thing. He preaches to do the right thing.
He preaches from his perspective, his experience about what he
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believes is right. It might come off in a way
that it's tough to hear. You know, he might give
you some hard messages or some hard truths, but he
himself is not polarizing and matters outside of of really
outside of that stuff. This is this is something when
you get involved in this, it's it's a bit more
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or there's people who again there are they could be
a big Tom Brady fan, but how their life was
impacted by nine to eleven and what their beliefs are
behind that then leads them down a path to being
like I can't support that.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Yeah, And that's just and that's just how people feel.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Pete Davidson, the comedian, is touring and one of his
stops is he's going to be in Saudi Arabia. His
dad was a firefighter killed at nine to eleven. Like,
everybody's got decisions to make, everybody's got choices to make.
I just I don't I don't understand. I guess I
understand it, but I'm I'm not into the whole stand
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in the background and criticize Tom Brady because he's taken
Saudi money quote unquote to go play flag football. If
that's what he decides to do, that's what he decides
to do, if he wants to call games, and if
he wants to, you know, be owner of the Raider.
Like I just to Levar's original point, I think what
a lot of this comes down to is that it's
Tom Brady and you either had a preconceived critique of
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the guy you didn't like his time with the Patriots.
Whatever it is, he's going to draw criticism right or
wrong no matter what he does. I just think I
think that's how this works with him, and he's judged
differently based on all that.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
So it's Tom Brady. Yeah, I'll take that judgment, no kidd,
And I'm a laugh at.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Y'all while I take that judgment because.
Speaker 6 (49:20):
I'm Tom Brady. BA
Is the best of two pros and a couple. Joe
with Labar rings and rating Winn and Jonas Knox on
four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The New York Giants. Oh, they have have found. They
have they have found the long term plan, and the
long term plan at quarterback is Jackson Dart. They're not
playing Wilson's anymore. They're playing darts. And Brian day Ball,
the head coach of the Giants, explained his decision yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I met both with Russ yesterday and Jackson privately, and
Russ was nothing but a pro, which I expect them
to be. It's my decision. We're going with Jackson. We're
gonna get him ready to play this week and the
remainder of the season. He's gonna do everything he can.
Russe will be the backup. It's my decision and we're
going with Jackson.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
There you go long term.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
He was a pro in the meeting, but he cried
in the car.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
No, man, he's you know, he's he's such a good dude.
Everyone gives and.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I'm just saying I cried in the car Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Tuesday, he was at at the children's hospital visiting sick kids,
and that's when obviously, you know, this is all I
started to kind of make waves that it was coming out,
and I just you know, that's one of the things
I respect most about Russell is even during one of
the hardest times in his career and as a public figure,
where he is the punching bag for everyone out there,
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he's still trying to bring joy to kids who, in
some cases, you know, may not ever really be able
to live the life that they had hoped to live.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
So I know, I'm trying to bring down the moment
to some seriousness.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
But definitely killed. I was ready.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
And guess what, I.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Don't care how many of those kids care. How many
those kids were like, get glad you mood killed? How
many those kids were like, hey, get Jackson in here?
Who want the starter?
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Well you send in the back of which which which again,
like it's it's it's funny to make it's it's great
to make fun of it again making the punching bags.
But these are kids who are terminally ill. These are
kids who like may never get out, you know, And
so like that's the thing is like he's he's the
punching bag for everyone else, meaningwhile he's trying to bring
a little bit of like light to all these other
young kids. And he's man enough to go out and
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do it despite the fact that, like his career is
not going the way he wants it to. So I'm
sure he handled it like a pro. Kudos to him.
And you know, if people want to make fun of him,
they can make fun of him about it. But he's
more of a man than most because I don't know
anyone who. I mean, Jonas won't even leave a wall
at a National championship game between Georgia and TCU to
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talk to people.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I can't imagine if he was going through what like
one of our cast members who's not a part of
the show right now, is going through, he would stand
up and go out in public and et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So I mean, if there were kids there would sorry, yeah,
well that's sounds a little creepy now the way you're saying.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
But I don't know, Jonahs, have you ever done charity work?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Meaning what like?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Answer is no?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I mean I know your wife did, but have you
ever done what's that mean?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, she's with you, buddy, that's the chair.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
She said. You missed that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
No, no, no, I no, I got that.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I got that.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I didn't I didn't know you were going to be
so hot and bothered this morning over When.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Have you I didn't make When have you ever need
to be sensitive of movie?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, I don't know why Brady's so sensitive about the
Russell Wilson topic.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
I'm not being sensitive about it. I'm just saying, like, well,
first off, here's the thing is, no one would know
what this.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Is like more than me on this show.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
All Right, I've been benched, I've been talked to and
and just had this discussion behind the scenes. I've had
in Cleveland with Brian Dabele, had in Kansas City with
Brian Dable. So trust me, like I've been through this
scenario what it sounds like, both publicly.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
And the reality is they're an own three football team
and they're trying to make a change, to make.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
A spark like that. That's what they didn't even pick them.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You did not even pick them out of two New
York teams that are struggling. You, my friend, did not
even pick the New York jan I do not want
to hear this soapbox self righteous discussion about gat dang
Russell Wilson he washed. Look at their schedule, he's washed,
and you know what, so of New Well, I think
it would be tough to Giants.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
It would be tough for anyone to go in and
turn that around. Right now, they're just not where they
need to be and it's going to be tough.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
To turn around.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
To Jones's point, look at their schedule, it's a much
tougher schedule.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I do wonder this about Russ though, I don't what
do you want, well, I don't think he's washed, Like
when I watch him play.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
On you think he is.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
He's like a spiffy clean.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I just through for four and fifty yards like two
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I just think that he's been in situations where either
he's been the scapegoat or they've wanted to try and
hand the keys over to a younger player. He's just
been in see like bad spots. And I don't know
that there are other spots for him, but it's almost like.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
That's not what it was in Pittsburgh. They gave him
that job.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
In Pittsburgh, there wasn't ay they I mean, Justin Fields
was out there, but that was because Russ couldn't be
out there. I wasn't because they benched him, and then
the first chance they got, they put him back in.
So I don't I don't know that that's an accurate
and narrative, accurate narrative of Russell Wilson's latest situations that
he's dealing with.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I don't know that to be true.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Could you find a would you take Russell Wilson? Could
you find a spot for him in the NFL that
you say that team starting quarterback. I'll take Russ over
that team starting quarterback.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
You saying, I mean that's one team. I think you
take him in Miami? Would you not?
Speaker 6 (05:49):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I take a chance with Tua if I'm putting Russell
Wilson in, I take a chance with with Tua just
because I paid him and and I'm gonna get my
money's worth out of that. I just now the same Sames.
That seems kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I take him in Minnesota. I would take him in
Minnesota over both Carson and J. J. McCarthy no knocks.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
The Saints might be the only one that really makes sense,
and that's just because they're just really bad without a quarterback?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What about but what about Tennessee? No, you wouldn't take
him over cam Ward?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Nope, let cam learn, let him make them the mistakes,
let him learn. But that's what number one overall.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But it just feels like he doesn't there's not a
spot for him, which sucks, and and there should be
because that.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Is a spot. What do you mean on a team
he's the backup.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, but he didn't go there to be a backup.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
There's nothing wrong, Like I don't understand this whole thing,
like you're a failure because you're a back up. Come on,
the dude has been to two Super Bowls, he won one.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I mean he's he's he's a backup. That's what he is.
He's a backup. He threw fo a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Of yards against who who was that they ended up losing?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
And and was that your Dallas Cowboys? Cowboys?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Your Cowboys?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I mean, the dude can still obviously serve up some plays.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
But it's over, Johnny, It's it's finished. Put him in
a body bag.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
He's a backup, and it's okay, it's okay, But why
are you trying to make him something that he's not
he's not a starter anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You're sorry, what's your problem with Russ?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I don't have a problem with Russ. Like he goes
to see the kids, and he's a great role model.
He's a man of God. Like, he's a man of faith.
I have no problem with I don't even know Russell Wilson,
never met him a day in my life. Don't know
who he is outside him as a football player. I
have no problem with Rush. You know what I have
a problem with when we try to force feed somebody
(08:07):
to be a starter, when their career pattern and path
has led to them being a backup.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Here's what I find most interesting about this is, well, no,
you're you're saying he's a backup now, which he is.
He's been demoted. We haven't seen Jackson Dart do anything yet.
Like you're assuming he's going to go in and give
them a better level of play. Well, that's what we're assuming,
that going to give me more. I'm not assuming that.
(08:35):
I said, Well, we don't know. But here's what I'm saying.
You just said, what's wrong. We don't know that he's
not going to give them more. We haven't seen Jackson
Dart yet, so until we see Jackson Dart. We don't
know how to compare between the two.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
I'm not trying to compare. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
That's what that's what the Giants are.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Russell Wilson is the backup.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Do you think I don't care where he goes he's
going to be the backup?
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Do you think of sept Okay, I'll put it this way.
I'll put it this way.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
I'll ask both of you guys this as Russell Wilson
played the last snap that will play this year for the.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Giants, barring injury.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yes, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I saying, I don't even know even if there's an injury,
I don't know that he goes back in all right,
I don't think he's saying. I don't say he's taking
his last snap. I'm gonna say, yes he has. Okay,
I'm gonna say yes. I don't think Heyes. You're more
likely to get struck by lightning walking out your front
door today than Russell Wilson is to start as the
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New York Giants quarterback again this season.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I know what this is.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
There's a lot of like Black on Black crime with
LeVar Can, there's a.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Lot of I can't stand LeVar.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
I love me some, LeVar. What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
No, you can't stand.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Tiger is not black, Tiger is other Like that's not
var LeVar said, that does not count as black on
black crown.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And in fact, Lvar hates my phone because Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I mean, he's not.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
My case for my phone.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's like, get that case.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Out of here, so get youself a white case.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Y'all tripped out? Man, y'all trying to turn this into
like racial thing.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's not all right? Can I ask you this about it?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I'm just obs.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Y'all the biggest hater haters ever in the moment I
have a moment. Y'all want to start, y'all, Man, that's
what y'all do, though, That's that's what y'all do.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
People guys don't like count.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
BB.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
People hat BB.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So can I let me ask you as this. Do
you think that if Brian dave Ball was in his
first year as Giants head coach, he would have made
the switch by now? I don't think so, because I
I think this has everything to do with him.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Really, I don't know. I I knew dave Ball very
early on. I think he would have been more have
to make the switch. I think he's actually yeah, I
think he's actually mellowed and matured in that sense of
how he's handling you know, things and adversity specifically. So yeah,
I think early on he probably would have have made
(11:19):
it after like week one, So this is this is
you know, you gave it three three games, you know,
I think after Dallas, you're like, all right, he's playing
well enough besides the one decision, and then this past.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Week is like, all right, it's it feels like it's time.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
And that's the reality of it is the kid had
a great preseason.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Let's put him in and see what he's got.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
But like I said before, I've been through this personally,
like I don't think this is the last snaps that
Russell Wilson takes this year.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I just think it's unfortunate for russ and in this
scenario because it is a it's just not a good team.
It's just not a good team, and you're you're rounding
that corner of heading into being zhero and four because
I do not even at home see them defeating the
(12:11):
Chargers this weekend. They gotta wait until the Saints, and
they got to go into New Orleans, and like I said,
it's not a given that you could go in and
win in New Orleans. Even if you're looking at it
as how bad, how to how bad this team is
and can be the New Orleans Saints that might be
their win. Like that's about it. That's how I see it.
(12:33):
I mean, then they got the Eagles, after that, the Broncos,
the Eagles. Again, it's not like you guys talked about
with the scheduling. It's not a schedule that is a
forgiving schedule. So if you're oh and three to start
out with, you might as well start the development of
Jackson dark even if even if even if you're eventually
(12:56):
going to possibly lose your job, you said you don't
feel like it's a your job type of scenario. I
tend to think it is. I feel like this is
like that final season to be a poor team. And
whether it's his fault or not, whether it's on the
blame of something else as to why this Giants team
is continuing to underperform. I just think that the time
(13:19):
has run out on Russell Wilson, But the time is
also running out on on day ball as a head coach,
of this team, So why not why not see if
you can switch it up?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Why not see if Jackson.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Dark can give you any type of hope or feeling
that maybe we do continue on with day ball, maybe
we do try to give it a little bit more time,
because you can't make that argument if you're keeping Russell
Wilson in as you're starting quarterback and possibly continuing to
have the same results that you've had through three games
(13:52):
so far.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
I think the problem with that and I understand what
you're saying because everyone always says this when a team
drafts a rookie quarterback and there's.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
An expectation friend to play.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
The problem is is people think that it's gonna save
the head coach's job, and it never works out that way.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
It never does.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
When there's a coach that's on the hot seat or
there's pressure on him coming into the season and they
make this move, it doesn't matter unless that quarterback equates
to a bunch of wins. It usually ends up with
them getting fired. I mean, if I'm not mistaken, go
back to was it Mitchell Trubisky?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh yeah, John Fox?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
I mean John Fox put him in and that was
the That was the whole expectation, so got fired at
the end of that year. Right then comes in Matt
Naggy Like it's there's there's other examples of that too,
where that the change is made and the thought is, well,
coaches on the hot.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Seat, it'll help save and it will help give him
another year.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
No, most owners look at it and they actually end
up saying, we need to bring in someone who we
feel like can develop this guy because the guy who's
currently here now we just witness that and he ca.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Drake May last year.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Drake May is another example, and.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
That was I could I could give you a long list.
I mean, you know you could, you could go on
down whoever it's been. But it's it's just that that
logic usually never in reality equates to a coach saving
their job. Like, I think ownership's gonna make that decision regardless,
(15:25):
and I think they're gonna separate the two.
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Speaker 10 (16:48):
Some Yeah, no.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
No, come on, Var, come on c I always think
that Var is gonna get into it more though.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Mm hmm, chilling man. You know, I can't. I can't
be y'all can y'all should not.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Be able to you know, peer pressure you.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
No, no, no, no, no, just.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
I just like to think that we're like three brothers,
you know, just three brothers hanging out and get each
other a hard time.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
That's that's true.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
And you're the big bro, and we all kind of
like like to poke at you a little bit, you know,
we'd like to poke the bear a little bit, try.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
To get your goal.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, clearly I only got one out of the two parents,
and maybe y'all got both of the parents. And I'm
the older one, so I'm like the one that came
into the situational where you know, y'all's parents found love
and made y'all too.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
It's got com quick. Yeah. I just thought we were
all brothers, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
We are like like the movie with ty Reese and
all of them.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yeah, what was that? Was that? Five brothers or yeah, yeah, yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Probably the most wild scene in that movie, and there
were some fun ones, was when they just walked into
a basketball gym started like throwing guns around.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
You remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I do, I do.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
I was like, this is an interesting scene.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, I don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Well, they probably didn't watch the movie though. I want
to say four brothers. I believe it's called four Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Think it's four brothers.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
You're right, yeah, yeah, two of each.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You know, Oh you had never seen it. One was
like Mark Wahlberg and who was the other one?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well, isn't he on your team?
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Well you could say that, you could say that. I mean,
Mark can go either way. Mark.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Mark is accepted in Josh Charles different cultures that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You know who he is. He's the I know who
he is of NFL Network, all the Football Life documentaries.
He's from Baltimore. He's big football. Yeah, so he does
the voiceover for all the Football Life stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Wait, Sophia Vicaro, isn't that huh? No, wonder I liked
that movie so much. Makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Now let me tell you. Let me tell you pedal
to the Medal to this.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
They sit four brothers. You ain't catch on to that.
You had to have a never mind?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We had that? What never mind?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
How do you get that? Let's move on.
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Speaker 6 (20:03):
Don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Based on yesterday's discussion, don't care.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
See that some means the sort of closed mind thinking
though that people have today, like I would I would
actually do the opposite, like you spin it and you're like, hey,
we made people who weren't fans in the past big fans.
Now every time they go to state college, they're staying
in a Superader six.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Like that is the exact opposite line of thinking.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
That's the closed mindedness of our society at this point,
is they don't think there's like another way or another path.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Oh, there always is, you know, I do. Can I
not to go back to yesterday's conversation about this.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
If you go on social media, though, you'll see enough
guys who are like they'll go travel around to these
nicer hotels and then they'll still find like bed bugs
or disgusting stuff five star hotel. Which if that's happening
in a five star hotel, what do you really got
to think that it's another one?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Exactly, it's got to be awful, absolutely awful.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Lorena said she worked at a hotel that.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
She was what don't do it?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Why do it?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Don't tell us what she was doing.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
I was a housekeeper. What I was a housekeeper one
of my first jobs in high school. I was probably
one of the worst housekeepers there. I was very slow.
I'd turn on the TV in every room or put
on some music, and then when the other girls would
finish their whole hallways, they would come up and help me.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So, eh, it wasn't my career. I didn't, you know,
the ambition was not there.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Did anybody leave ambition to be a lifelong a lifetime
house cleaning?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, just you know, it seem like it was my thing.
It's honest work.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I hope it wasn't.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
My manager had been there a long time.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Did anybody leave tips for you?
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, I love finding a little five dogs?
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Do you know they were hips well because.
Speaker 11 (22:01):
They already checked out, and they leave money on the
counter for you. And sometimes they' leave a nice note
that says thank you for folding my sheets.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I always do that. I always leave a thank you
note in a little bit of cast. We don't care Jonas,
letting you know, man like.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
You, I take care of my my my house, and.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
He stays in bad hotels too, So kudos on you, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Oh yeah, kudos. I don't see what that's a kudos
kudos for what?
Speaker 6 (22:26):
What? What?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
What?
Speaker 6 (22:27):
What's what's wag points?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
What?
Speaker 6 (22:29):
What do you get.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
From that hotel?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
All right?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
All right? I mean everything else?
Speaker 7 (22:39):
You're saving money in your hotel room so you can
tip the housekeeper, yeah.
Speaker 11 (22:44):
Stupid and buy nicer food when you go out.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Yeah, we had a nice steak dinner or stand over
there at the super eight.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Though, Who cares where you're sleeping. It's about where you're eating.
That's the most important thing.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
We I mean, you should be able to do both
Jonas like I'm gonna go to a cheapy hotel, like,
come on, broh wrong that I mean, I would say
you're full of it. But I do see what you
drive to work now, I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I guess you super starts leaving, uh, leaving Lorain a
tip after every show and telling her great job on
the board today, and go drive that that truck home.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Pay for my juices. I gotta I got a super
eight on wheels, is what I got.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
That's my truck. No, you don't what I got.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
You got that trip trip sevens on? Hey got that trip?
Is that what it was called? The one down the street?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Down the street, Yeah, you got that trip seven.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Let me tell you something, pal, all right, that'll make
forty five minutes go by in a hurry that place
if you need it, if you're into that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But all right, I don't know, man, I don't know
about you either. I don't dang well, okay, I don't
want to know about me.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
If one thing I know about LeVar is I would
create a tribute for him if I could.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
There is a Penn State players not get a tribute
when he gets.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Back to Dallas.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I know that Jerry Jones made the statement earlier this
week that with the Big Game Micah Parsons return to
Dallas as a member of the Packers, that they have
no plans to honor Michah Parsons, all right, no hard feelings,
just no plans to honor him in any way, no
tribute or anything like that. And so Michah Parsons was
asked about that, and this is his response.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
There's a lot of things I can consider disrespectful throughout
this process, but I wouldn't say the tribute is.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
One of them.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
You know, there's horror feelings maybe there for them.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You know.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
For me, I'm happy where I'm at and we got
a really good football team.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
So I guess I can give.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You my tribute a when all right, why would they
tribute him? He was there four years? What are we like?
What are we talking about here? It's not like a decade.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
It is interesting, like, I've never have they ever done
a tribute for a player who just was drafted there
than traded.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think so, I really get it.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
They did with a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
He's not on a farewell tour. And I think that
that's what it would come down to. I mean, his
body of work would say, you could, you know, maybe
acknowledge him. But how many players that have had really
really fine careers with one organization end up at another
organization and they don't Like I could see if Bobby
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Wagner returned to Seattle, right, you want to do a
tribute of Bobby Wagner.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Okay, super Bobby's on his left, right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And you're on your last lag of your career, like
you know, is this the last year? Maybe this is
the last one, Like I could get that, But he's
got so much he's got so much.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
More career left.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And and again, like you said, what what was the
significance of of of I would say this, he could
arguably be on the list of short a very short
list of most dominant defenders to ever have played for
the franchise. But I don't even know if that. Yes, Bro, again,
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look at that man's stat line. Look at his stat line.
It's I mean twelve plus sacks in the first what
three years of his career, Like, bruh, that that that's
that's nobody does that one sack. Nobody does that one
sacond four playoff games.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
So what.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
They got one winning in those amounts of playoff games.
I mean that's a team thing.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Like.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
So what.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
All I say is, bro the dude, you can't you
can't discredit him by saying he got one in a
play a playoff game like and that amount of playoff games.
The dude's body of work is his body of work.
It is what it is, whether it was late in
his career or whether it's early. He happened to have
done it early, this early in his career, right out
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of the gate. You don't let those type of players go.
And the circumstances of which he's he's left, you might
think that they might acknowledge him. Maybe I don't know,
I'm not I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I could understand them doing it for Dak He's had
a much better run in Dallas. But I'm not just
for Cooper Rush.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You know when he because he he is he there
Cooper Rush.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
That Yeah, that year you were all over him.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
He's somewhere else now, isn't he. He's not there anymore,
is he?
Speaker 7 (27:37):
You know what My favorite part though about that Cooper
Rush here where you're all about him?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Yeah, we got to play the music like.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I'm actually a big Rush fan. Rush.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Oh, Cooper Rush in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah, I know that makes sense. Yeah, he fits, he
fits right there.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
He's like the new Trip.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I mean, nothing in the offense would change if Lamar
got hurt in kid same offense.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I mean I would probably not say the same exact thing.
If Cooper Rush got in for for Lamar Jackson, waiting
for Lamar to get back now, just so happens whoever
the backup is in Dallas, I would be saying, Wow,
that might be a better option.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
He really is the only back. He's the only other
quarterback there in Baltimore talking.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
About playing with fire.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Oh god, I kind of forgot about that storyline coming
into the season, and now we're here, so maybe they
should go off the Russ Like that would make all
the sense in the world.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, because of Cooper Rush Russ.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
No, No, you're good with Cooper rush Man, You're good
with him. He's good backup. Just like Russ is a
good backup. That's what they have in common. Anyway, Uh,
they could honor Michael Parsons, wouldn't wouldn't surprise me or
shock me, and he like listen, it didn't end the
way that we want it, but we had some really
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good times.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
It's a good good, feel good story.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Instead, they allow it to be bulletin board material, allowed
to be a motivating factor. I could guarantee you on
one side of it, you're always going to have that
team say let's get this one for Micah, let's get
this one for let's get this form.
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Let's yeah, let's go guys.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
And then they rilly around one another.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
It's not the same intensity to get at Michael Parsons
as a Dallas cowboy. It's it's just not the team
that gets rid of you is kind of like we
got rid of you, you know, Like I try to
have a good day.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
I just I don't know why this is a topic
of conversation, like who brought this up about a tribute video?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Like I think what Jerry Jones was asked about. He's
like no, like you know, no hard feelings. I'm just
not you know.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
What Dweed in Dallas was like, oh, we should have
a tribute video, Like, well, again, it's even that, Like,
what did they accomplish if they want a super Bowl
in those four years? Okay, it might make some sense.
They didn't do anything. Like LeVar just used an example
of Bobby Wagner. They won a Super Bowl with him,
the Legion of Boom. They went to two, like they
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they have accomplishments, Like Dallas didn't do anything.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
M hmm, I'm with you, man, Like there's like, like.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Tom Brady comes back, obviously they're gonna have a tribute
for what he was able to accomplish Tampa, New England, whatever.
You know, it's like they accomplished something, like what are
you attributing to.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
He's got two first time All Pros, four Pro Bowls.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Yeah, that's that's like a pat on the back type thing.
That's not a team things Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
That's that's him doing his best for that team. To
win two time All Pro First team in four years.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I would be curious to see the team. I would
be curious.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I would be curious to see how many players in
the league are two time first team All Pros in
the first four years of their career.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
I'd be curious of that.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
I'd be cure is to see that one four Pro
Bowls every like he's gone to the Pro Bowl every year,
so he's proven to his team and to his fan
base that he is the elite of the elite in
in the league.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Like I'm not.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
There's dudes and there's dudes in the Hall of Fame
right now that don't have to first team All.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Pro bids and four Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Dudes in the in the in the Pro Hall of
Fame would look it up.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I'm not doing a tribute video for a long time ago.
I'm not doing a tribute video for a guy who
was part of a one in three and actually the
main reason they were one and three in the postseason
with one sack. I'm just not in four years, I'm
not doing it.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I'm not going for your You're you're trying to.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
If you if you want to do a tribute video
for Mike, you might as well do one for Lee.
I mean, like, like, what are we doing here? Like
it's like this, It's like the again.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I mean there, it might be difference, there might be
a reason to have, uh a memorial. No, no memorial
what what we just say tribute a tribute video or
tribute deal for Lee.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
I mean it could be possible. I mean, our show
is how many years old?
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Five?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I got news for you. Lee's got one less playoff
sack than Michael Parsons at this point, and it tells
me everything I needed.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Lee's got more misshows than Michael Carson's does.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I mean, I don't recall Micah ever missing a game,
like just not showing up, like I'll show up with
like three minutes left in the game.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
LeVar just turned the gun around. It was like, no, no,
not now, not shooting me up, just saying so so yeah,
that's the that's the update there. But it should be
a fun environment. I'm sure everybody will be fired.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
You think. You know what makes it better?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
If they had some original Louisiana hot sauce at the tailgate.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
You know what. It's the perfect balance of peppers, vinegar,
and salt.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Put it on your wings, put it on your your burgers,
all that, put it on all of it. Hit any
tailgate food with the bold, hand crafted flavor of the original.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Louisiana hot sauce. That's Le'sana hot by you shown there
you go far.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Come to the Stick City tailgate too. I'll beat it
Saturday Spike Stadium.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And by the way, you know, uh, you know what else,
Louisiana hot sauce is good in clam chowder.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Clam chowder a big clowder.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
You're a big clam guy, big time. Yeah, you used
to like to What do you mean.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
You ever try barbecued baked barbecue?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
By the way, if anybody is uh thinking about crabs,
tell people you ordered them, you didn't get them. Yeah,
they're a clear difference between the two.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
You don't want someone walking on the conversation saying like, oh,
crabs are my favorite.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, my god, just letting you know.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I mean, but people from Maryland would be offended by that,
you know why, because crabs are it, especially the Blue Ones.
Hook me up with some crabs, man, I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Listen, if you uh, that can be arranged. But if
anybody tries to give you a hard time about that,
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Speaker 6 (34:59):
Thanks man, Tell them the bounce.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Smooth with your white ass dall you all right? Coming
up next here, we are going to have a conversation
about somebody who's pushing back.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
This is a big topic of discussion over the past
week or so, but they've decided to push back a
little bit. You'll get into that for you right here
on FSR.
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over fifteen minutes from now, we are going to hand
out an award on this show. And I believe that
this award will draw criticism from members of this show,
So we'll get into that for you here on Fox
Sports Radio. So you remember last week we were talking
(36:19):
about the Tom Brady conflict of interest stuff and there
was the well, how could we forget? Yeah, just it
wouldn't go anywhere. It was all of all of the
rage and the rave last year last week in the NFL,
and people talking about, well, you know, he can't do both.
And he was seen in the booth on Monday Night
Football and he's calling the Bears Cowboys game and then
(36:41):
the Bears are playing the Raiders this week and all
that stuff to go along with it. And so Tom
Brady has a post called do your job all Right?
This is he likes to on tom Brady dot com.
He writes these periodically, and he just went through a
long list of accomplishments principles that he stands by and
(37:05):
went on to say the following, I love football at
its court it's a game of principle, and with all
the success it has given me, I feel I have
a moral and ethical duty to the sport, which is
why the point where my roles in an interest is
not actually of a point of conflict, despite what the
paranoid and distrustful might believe. Rather, it's a place from
which my ethical duty emerges to grow, evolve, and improve
(37:28):
the game that has given me everything. Right, So he's
pushed back on that. He's also pushed back on a
number that was thrown out by Dave Portno. I believe
that he got seventy five million dollars to be a
part of this Saudi flag football extravagance that they're putting on.
He took to social media and said the following, Are
(37:51):
we just picking numbers out of a hat and reporting
them while we're breaking news? Elvis is doing the halftime show,
Babe Ruth is going to sign some autographs for fans,
and I also Dave prefers floppy pizza, who cares about facts?
Speaker 6 (38:02):
Right?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So he's taped making a point to Uh to push back.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Was he take it? Was that a subliminal message floppy Pizza?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
I don't know that might have been a shot. You
know some people like perky Pizza. Yeah, if you know,
that's one way of putting it.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Yeah, with a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
What was the first thing he's pushing back on, like people,
what his conflict of paranoid that he can't do both
that he can't broadcast games and also have integrity.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
When if people are paranoid and what Jonas, Oh, that's
let me get the exact quote. Paranoid and scared afright.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
What did he say? It's pretty strong.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I mean the paranoid and distrustful, my believe.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Oh, distrust So this is and I'll just kind of
pull back the current a bit. People have always talked about, hey,
why don't you call her name? Games for NBC and
and'll be very transparent. There have been conversations in the
past with NBC about potentially doing that job. And one
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of the things that from that network side, because if
you looked at who they've actually put as their analyst
for those games, it's actually been like a rival. It
hasn't ever been an alum, at least not on the
TV side of things. It's been Pat Hayden, right, who's
you know, played at USC who was an athletic director.
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There after, actually he left the booth became the athletic director,
which talk about a conflict of interest. You know, Doug Flutie,
who was obviously a great quarterback at BC, which is
you know, kind of a rival, and so there was
a thought that NBC already has the home games for
Notre Dame, so they don't want it to be like
(39:49):
a biased broadcast. Now, I think logic would tell you, well,
it's it's obviously more biased because you literally have the
same crew and these same network exclusively doing those home games.
So inherently it's going to be somewhat biased because that crew,
that network knows that those players that university that much better.
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So you're kind of talking from that angle. And mostly
everyone's tuning in to NBC to watch Notre Dame, so
you know, it's hard probably for some people to listen
to a Doug Flutie, to listen to even Drew Brees,
who you know played for Purdue and in state rival.
So you know, some of the conversations have always been
(40:31):
like well, you know, like people have asked before like well,
would you be able to do it? And or if
the conversation is, well, how would you be unbiased if
you're going to call Notre Dame games. And I've said
to him, I was like, you know, one year I
called like four or five Southern col games. I go,
so clearly my bias would lead you to think that
I'm not going to talk favorably about sc But if
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you listen to any of those calls, you wouldn't have
came away thinking that. So the reality of it is,
there's a job that you have to do. There's no
doubt Tom Brady can compartmentalize, where as far as what
he does on TV is what he does on TV
where he doesn't have to allow his emotions, his feelings,
you know, his biases to be any part of that.
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And then there's the job that he has to do
as the owner of a franchise. So is there some
information that he could use to his advantage? I'm sure
you know how beneficial it is.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
But at the end of the day, like like the
TOOTHPAS is out of the bottom of the tube, like
this has already been approved, it's not going back in.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Like I don't even know why.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
He feels the need to address it, because there's there's
no concern at this point, it's just all people who
want to make something up to talk about because they
see him in the booth, you know, up there, like
he's calling plays for the Raiders, Which even if that's
the case, what are the Raiders now one and two?
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Right? So, like, it's not like that's worked out?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Well, what an impact?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, listen, like you said, it is already decided. It's
already happened. So have a problem with it if you don't.
The bottom line is the reason why people have a
problem with it is because they probably already have a
problem with Tom Brady for one reason or another, and
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it's probably not even specific to this particular scenario. It's
Tom Brady. So to me, when I look at it,
can you create valid reasoning behind why this is a
conflict of interest and why it doesn't maybe make sense?
Of course you can. But the reality of it is
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is that many people are benefiting from what Tom Brady
is representation of. He is a play caller for or
you know what, however you want to call it for Fox,
and he has ownership interest in the Raiders, so he
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helps Fox, he helps the Raiders, he helps the NFL.
There's probably countless other major companies that benefit from him
being in the positions that he's in, And at the
end of the day, if it's impacting the bottom line,
they're not worried or concerned about the other line items
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that are there. And if people can't understand that, tough
tough beans like so what you can say what you
want to say. If you're media, you can say what
you want to say. If you're peers or or you
know people in the industry, you could be a common fan,
doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. If you're not being impacted on
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the bottom line with what Tom Brady represents, then maybe
you have a strong opinion about what's going on and
it might not be favorable. But to those who are
impact by it positively, they couldn't be more aestatic that
people continue to talk about Tom Brady and bring him
(44:07):
up into different ways because at the end of the day,
you know what, Tom Brady hasn't done really anything wrong.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
He really hasn't done anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
So you could we can pinpoint certain things that may
have been done when he played. You could say that, oh,
he he this is a conflict of interest where he
is now. But the bottom line is is Tom Brady
has been a dude that really largely has done everything
the right way, and so it's kind of like a
(44:37):
It's like a trivial conversation like what is it? What
does it really matter in the end? What does it matter?
The other thing?
Speaker 5 (44:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
He pushed back on the report that he's getting seventy
five million dollars to be a part of that Saudi
flag football game or league whatever it is. It's like,
what's the problem If he's getting seventy five million dollars
to be a part of a flag football game? Who cares?
Speaker 6 (45:03):
Well? It's I mean the way he makes it sound. Cue.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
You may know better because you be around Portnoy, but
it sounds like to me that that ain't what it is.
Like whether he's getting he's seventy one or seventy two,
it just sounds like it's not the correct number, and
he's taken advantage of the fact that, oh incorrect number
was put out there is what I would say to that.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
Look, I haven't talked to Dave about it, so I
don't know where Dave got that information or how he
would know that. My thing is, I mean, look, they've
had as big Kat talked about. I think they were
offered like ten dollars or so to go just to
peer at something for the Saudis, and they weren't willing
to do that. Now, maybe that was too low. Maybe
(45:48):
they would have done it for a higher number. That's
irrelevant to the conversation. Uh, it's always tough, I feel
for most people to accept whatever offered. That is, there's
a lot of ties, there's a lot of feelings and
emotions towards nine to eleven. Who is behind that, how
the Sadis could be potentially connected to that? That is,
(46:10):
that is always a part of the conversation for most
people who get involved in these sorts of deals. And
for some people they don't believe there's an issue, or
they don't have a conflict in their mind, or for
some people it feels like the price that they're paid
for it eliminates whatever conflicts in their mind because it's
too good an opportunity to pass up on. So there's
(46:32):
a lot of sensitivity to you know this specific you know,
Saudi flag football deal, and kind of curious to how
much he is being compensated.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
But I don't know the number.
Speaker 7 (46:45):
I just know that for most people they feel one
way or another about it. It's a very polarizing topic.
They're and they're not going to change, Like it doesn't
matter how much. More like the live tour for example,
continues to you know, find it way into different events
in the US and and kind of.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Partnering with different TV partners.
Speaker 7 (47:05):
People are just gonna view it a certain way and
there and they're not gonna change the feelings about that.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
And that's the right.
Speaker 7 (47:11):
So I think that the tough part when I when
I heard like he was a part of it, I
was thinking in my head, ooh, like you know Tom Well,
because Tom Brady is a polarizing figure because of his success.
To me, he's never polarizing because of who he is
as a man, Like I think he always tries to
do the right thing. He preaches to do the right thing.
He preaches from his perspective, his experience about what he
(47:34):
believes is right. It might come off in a way
that it's tough to hear. You know, he might give
you some hard messages or some hard truths, but he
himself is not polarizing and matters outside of of really
outside of that stuff. This is this is something when
you get involved in this, it's it's a bit more
(47:56):
or there's people who again there are they could be
a big Tom Brady fan, but how their life was
impacted by nine to eleven and what their beliefs are
behind that then leads them down a path to being
like I can't support that.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Yeah, And that's just and that's just how people feel.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Pete Davidson, the comedian, is touring and one of his
stops is he's going to be in Saudi Arabia. His
dad was a firefighter killed at nine to eleven. Like,
everybody's got decisions to make, everybody's got choices to make.
I just I don't I don't understand. I guess I
understand it, but I'm I'm not into the whole stand
(48:31):
in the background and criticize Tom Brady because he's taken
Saudi money quote unquote to go play flag football. If
that's what he decides to do, that's what he decides
to do, if he wants to call games, and if
he wants to, you know, be owner of the Raider.
Like I just to Levar's original point, I think what
a lot of this comes down to is that it's
Tom Brady and you either had a preconceived critique of
(48:55):
the guy you didn't like his time with the Patriots.
Whatever it is, he's going to draw criticism right or
wrong no matter what he does. I just think I
think that's how this works with him, and he's judged
differently based on all that.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
So it's Tom Brady. Yeah, I'll take that judgment, no kidd,
And I'm a laugh at.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Y'all while I take that judgment because.
Speaker 6 (49:20):
I'm Tom Brady. BA
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