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September 26, 2025 40 mins

The guys dissect Shedeur Sanders comments about being more capable about than some of the other quarterbacks in the league, then transition into the Cam Newton vs Tua Tagovailoa social media beef + a new edition of Quinn’s Wins! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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They will make them dance. Yeah, they dance for the band.

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We'll make a grown man dance.

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(02:20):
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I'm welcome.

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I haven't forgot about you, Eddie. Let's do it for Eddie.
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Speaker 3 (03:08):
All right.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
So, should Or Sanders was talking with ESPN and Cleveland
in the locker room yesterday and he was asked about
you know, Dion Sanders made some comments that you don't
learn anything from sitting on the bench, and should Or Sanders,
the third string quarterback for the Cleveland Browns, had this

(03:30):
to say.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
He had a great He says, you don't learn anything
I've never said on the bench and said I learned
a lot today.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
You agree with him on man, what are you talking?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Said that perspect perspective?

Speaker 6 (03:41):
So you know that's not that's not nothing.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
You know, I'm pleased to answer.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
You know there's nothing I can't answer, not answer, But
I know for sure I'm not I know if if
you see the quarterback player in the league right now,
I know, I know I'm capable of doing better than that.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
So I think this really bugs me and I don't
know why I don't you know why, because what what
does this remind you of?

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Because it reminds me of something that happened in the NBA,
and then we got to see how that played out,
and that was Lebron talking about Bronni and saying how
he thought he'd be better than a lot of guys
in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Like he was, like, he's better than them today he's
in high school. Yeah, I remember that, yeah today, and
that's starting today.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
That's what triggered in my memory was when someone says
something like that and like, all right, I mean, look,
here's the deal.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Chador will probably get the chance to play the show,
get the chance to prove that. Now.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
The problem is if you looked at the preseason as
an example, you know, he had one one good preseason
game and then everyone else wanted to blame who he
was playing around or playing with as to the poor
performance that he had, you know after that, when in reality,
like that's what you get in the preseason, Like you're
playing with threes, you're playing with twos, you're not always

(05:02):
playing with the ones. So like you're going to have adversity,
you're gonna have to be playing with guys that like
you've got to figure out how to get the job done.
That's what makes preseason kind of interesting. But you can't
like say, oh, it's just because he was with the three.
He's like, no, dude, Like that's how the NFL season works,
Like he's the number three on the depth chart.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Like if he gets in, it's either one of two things.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
Either the two guys in front of him and play
well enough, all right, and the season's gone to crap,
or there's been a bunch of injuries, and in that case,
it's gonna be a difficult lift because you're gonna have
backups something that.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Playing around you. So he'll get a shot. He'll get a.

Speaker 7 (05:41):
Shot to, you know, to to go in and prove
that he can play up to that capability.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
I think. I think eventually he'll get a shot. So
we don't have to just listen to the words like I
think time will tell.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I don't think so. I don't. I don't unless there
is how to straphic happenings that take place. You know,
What's what's interesting In most cases, if you're a third
string quarterback and the first string quarterback goes down, you
bring in your second string quarterback. But you're alsome. You're

(06:15):
also looking for someone on the market, and if your
second string quarterback goes down, you're one hundred percent looking
for somebody on the market. Which is interesting to me
because they may bring in a guy off of the
scrap heap that they would feel more comfortable starting, versus

(06:36):
putting their third string quarterback in and take the name
out of it. I'm not going to put his name
in it. I'm just saying in general, I don't think
he plays this year. I don't think he plays this
year because third string quarterbacks they generally don't ever play.
They don't play.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
This is Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I get it, I get it. But here's what.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
Actually, while you're talking, let us look up how many
times a third quarterback has played for Cleveland over the
last few years.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Oh god, it, go ahead, look it up. But all
to me, I think, I think his words are a
tap bit misguided or the feelings of himself are are

(07:26):
in the wrong place. Because to me, I know, you
need to advocate for yourself and you should always, you know,
feel confident about who you are and what you can
do and what you can produce. I have no beef
with that, but to be a third stream. Gohd, what
is it what you got?

Speaker 7 (07:45):
So last year they actually had four quarterbacks start for them,
four different quarterbacks in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
In twenty twenty three they had five.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
But within those five quarterbacks or those four or three whatever,
were they brought in or were they on the roster
as third string.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Quarter Well, it doesn't matter at that point.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
It proves the point that like they've had third string
quarterbacks play, and they've actually had even more than that.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
You have to go back to twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Funny that you you moved the gold put. It does matter.
It does if you brought somebody in versus playing somebody
who's on your roster. At the third they.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Played someone who was on their roster. They played somebod who.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Was on the roster string on their roster.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
Yes, and then on top of that, they've played a
fourth string guy that they brought on, then a fourth
and a fifth string that they brought on that were
either there's a part of camp run a practice.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yes, I've got some names here, and I forgot how
common this is in Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Oh my god, by the way, and so four.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
No, sinse.

Speaker 7 (08:50):
Year they've had three quarterbacks start going back to twenty
twenty one. Even Nick Mullens got to start in there.
That was on An eight nineteen by the way, so
you can go back to that. Twenty twenty the COVID
year was actually the only year where you could say
it was somewhat normal because Baker had played in all

(09:11):
sixteen games and started all sixteen games. That's the last
normal season the Browns have had at the quarterback position,
because even if you go back to I think it
was at twenty twenty two where Watson only started six games. Yeah,
Brissette started that season, remember, because he had Deshaun had

(09:32):
the suspension, and then after that it's been filled with
injuries and that's where like Watson's been out, but they've
had Flacco then come in kind of save the day.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
PJ.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Walker, Dwayne Thompson, Robinson, Jeff triscoll. I think all those
things have, you know, played a factor.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
I mean just even in the last if you were
to go a decade back like we're you know, Connor
Shaw got to start, Brian Hoyer and Manziella in the
same season in twenty sixteen, Cody Kessler RG.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Three don't get shots to play. I'm saying you're if
you're getting that your third string quarterback, your third string quarterback,
you are bringing guys in off a free agency, that's
what you're doing. That's what you're doing, like that standard protocol,
that standard practice. You're not You're just you're not going

(10:20):
to just go straight down the list. Okay, he didn't work.
We don't like Dylan Gabriel, We're going to go to
this thir If you're going all the way down into
the hole of your third string quarterback, that you do
you understand how damning that is for your team, especially
if it's not injuries. I mean, if that's if that's
that's that is accurate the way that you're reading it out,

(10:43):
then that's I mean.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Would you like, we're not just talking to you, we're
talking to a national audience.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Why would we lie about this? LeVar? Then like, what's
the point of us lie about this?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
They suck. I don't think you're lying, Jesus. It just
seems too out rageous to be true.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
That's that's exactly.

Speaker 7 (11:02):
That's why it's not that unfathomable to think that chadorable
start for games that at some point of the season.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
I'll fade you on it. I don't think there. I
don't think they're going to you later on he play,
I'm sure, do you guys see them coming?

Speaker 7 (11:21):
Did you see the Tomlin clip about them talking about
Anthony Richardson last year?

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Oh yeah, so, like, do not knock.

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Him out of the game. We don't want Flaker to
come in like this will be the best chance to win.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I thought that was that sort of.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Thing, and is it. I don't think it's hard to
tell anymore.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
But I don't think so. I think that's a real quote.
He's like, no, don't keep Anthony Richardson in. We'd rather
see him than Flacco.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
It is like.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
The part about Shador Sanders saying, look around the league.
I know I'm better than the quarterback. Play around the league.
I don't mind. There's one thing being confident, but I
just I never am a fan of being on the
sideline and then projecting how much better you are than
the people that are actually doing it. Like even when

(12:11):
like coming up when I wanted to get into the
quote unquote starting lineup in radio, I never looked around
and be like and would say publicly, hey, you know what,
I'm better than those guys.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hey we're taking that show as soon as he retired.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
No, I would never do that. I would never do that. Okay,
that ain't happening.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
You never had nobody write position retire?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
No? Oh okay, no, I would never do that. But
like shador like, here's the other part of this conversation too.
Did that same reporter also interview Dylan Gabriel the actual
backup or did he just go straight to your right
or did you just go straight to because like that,

(12:56):
and that's why it goes back to the original point.
Why did Jimmy have some draft him? Because all this
does is create more of a conversation that doesn't need
to be had. Nobody, nobody else's third string quarterback in
the NFL get an interviewed anywhere.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, that's it's all weird. It's all weird. Who's getting
quotes from the third string quarterback Cleveland? Come on, doesn't
make sense to me? So and ain't no way y'all
gonna make it make sense to me to say over
the last ten years and all, and they did this

(13:34):
and they played five.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Then they think, yes, they were eleven and six.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Actually though in playing I believe five quarterbacks that one
season with Flacca, ultimately leading them to the playoffs. So
you can say they stunk, but they were able to
make They were able to make some magic out of.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
That wild card team. Yeah, of course, did they make
it out of it?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Than six isn't bad and for uh they.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Got, it's really not They.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Got waxed by the Texans, I think.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
In the first round. Yeah yeah, I don't know, man,
you know I don't. I don't really want to die
on this hill anyway. I just think that why what
if you're why not if you're going all the way down?
If your third string quarterback is going to end up
playing for you during the course of the season, and
your third string quarterback is worth getting hitline quotes from

(14:30):
out of your locker room, you stink what team stinks?

Speaker 4 (14:35):
By the way, did he even interviews? Did the guy
even interview Flacco? The starter? He just went straight to
the third stringer, like, I know he's going to give
me something.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
But then it's getting picked up though I've got I've
got talking about it.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
I assume you saw that the Cam Newton to back
and forth.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Except falls under this. Do we have a sound er?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Now?

Speaker 5 (15:00):
I don't know who I'm looking at it.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I didn't see it. What can I get the context
of it? Y'all want to wait and do it.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
And it'd probably be better to give you a sound
so you could hear it. That would probably the best.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
We smoked.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well we have we have. So do you want cam
sound or do you want to response to?

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I want to hear cam sound before I hear a response. Yeah, yeah,
let's let's hear the sound. You don't want to wait
till the next segment. You want to do it right now.
I mean, it's up to you, guys.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
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we gotta get.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
To okay, So let's do I can to that quick,
don't don't worry about that.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
So here's here's what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
I don't want to have too much. We can push that,
said Penn State.

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Speaker 3 (16:09):
So I'm talking about it's spicy in Cleveland, but I
guess it's spicy with Tua and Cam too. I want
to hear it.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
I want to hear this definitely. I want to hear
this almost like it's like a hot like you're in Louisiana?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Is it really hot? Like I'm in Louisiana. That's interesting
because well, when you talk about Louisiana hot, you got
to talk about the original Louisiana hot sauce. It's the
perfect balance jonas Q of peppers, vinegar and salt. That
kind of sounds like, how y'all are peppers vinegars anyway? Wings, nachos, burgers,

(16:44):
all that. Just throw that ass on there. It's going
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That handcrafted flavor. The original Louisiana Hot sauce is amazing.
That's Louisiana Hot. By you, you know, like the value
by you some who?

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To cour The black course would be the most difficult.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
What do you mean.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
They're playing Beth Plage black And I sent you guys
a one of the shots of Justin Thomas.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
And Bryce and d Champea walking out.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
It's pretty sweet, dude, Like, if you love America, like
seeing these guys represent their country the flag around their
back as they walk out.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
That's pretty sick. It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
You love golf, Brove.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
Know, I love I love America like I love the US,
like I wish so badly, like my wife. I'm jealous
of my wife for the chance that she got to
represent our country. Like I think that's the coolest thing
in the world. And so just the fact that you
can bind golf. I love golf plus America like it's
a perfect combination.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Hey, listen, we told you getting this flag football thing
for the US. All right, go out there and sling.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Now. Now I need to get good enough at golf.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
So I'll make you guys proud one day and you'll
see me on that tea box represent the US.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I would get into it if you got into it, Yeah,
h'm I'd be your caddy.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
So for those that.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
Didn't didn't see the first t shot, Bryson d. Chambeau
absolutely murdered the ball. He almost drove the green. And
they're playing an alternate shot format, so his partner is
justin Thomas. Thomas will go first or next, but they
crowd after you hit it. No, no, no, no, it's just
alternate shakes everybody.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Yeah, yep, Well I just want you to I'm proudy
either way whatever you decide to do.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
So yeah, me too, myself not if I don't play well.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Come on, man, don't be so hard on yourself.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
I'm a good friend.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah, no matter what? Is that a setup? Is there
something behind that? Is that? Or are you just having
a genuine moment?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
No, good friend.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
It just sounds sarcastic though, bro Like, it sounds like
that's a setup, Like you got something in the chamber,
you got your finger on the trigger?

Speaker 5 (20:55):
What you what you're doing?

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(21:21):
it doesn't make any said. How can a parrot whistle?
Parrots whistle? They have beaks.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, they whistle really well.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Like I mean, they clown us.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, they whistle. They could whistle really well.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah, like the we had a parrot growing up. He
could do the Andy Griffiths song. So the Andy Griffith Show,
an old old time show back in the day, used
to be on TVs black and white. He could do
the entire.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, they could. Yeah, they'd be shaking their heads like
Stevie Wonder. They'd be going back and forth like Stevie,
like they're doing their thing. You know. I lived with
uh uh Cidela Marley. I lived with the Marley family,
like where Bob Marley lived when he was living in
Miami for some time, and their parent would wake up

(22:09):
every day apparently he was living when Uncle Bob was
living right and he would wake up be like, good
morning Bob, Good morning Bob. I mean they did. Like
I was like, what's the story with day? Like he
used to wake up and say good morning to him
every day. So it's kind of cool. I never met

(22:30):
Bob Marley, but I'm really close with with with Roe
Rote and one of his sons, and was living at
his mother's house like Sadela Booker was still still living.
And what's crazy is like the bird that was there
for all them years was the same bird, and he
was still waking up every day talking about some Good

(22:51):
morning Bob, Good morning Bob. It sounded like a person
you ever heard, you ever heard of pair with a Jamaican.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Accent, Gabi.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
One and bob.

Speaker 8 (23:12):
How yes, stay where you smoke?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Now you're getting carried away. Jonah, don't don't. Oh you're right,
don't yeah, get yeah, don't don't get carried away. All right,
But smoking is a part of it. That's just saying
that is a part of it. Man. Anyways, I want
to hear this smoke by the way from from camp.
I want to hear to smoke.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
So so this was Cam Newton talking about to to.

Speaker 10 (23:41):
Talk about law to talklo is making more than Patrick Mahomes,
Justin Herbert Lamar, Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford,
Jayden Daniels in my pocket watching No, no, no, no,
I'm putting.

Speaker 11 (23:54):
Things into perspective here. What Biggie say, more money, more problems,
Well in this case it should be more money, more expectations.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
When I seen two a tongue of below.

Speaker 11 (24:04):
Over this year alone, I've heard him more than I
ever have that's not to say you can't talk. I
like quiet to Alabama, to chip on the shoulder, to
not is somebody gonna come in and watch film.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Hey, let's see what this is.

Speaker 11 (24:20):
Hey, I was this since I was there taking certain things. Man, Bro,
what you're being paid, what you're asked to do, what
you have the capability of from one quarterback to the other.
I look at a situation as like, bro, come on, dog.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
What's he supposed to think straight? What's he supposed to
think straight?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Not talk?

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Uh? To?

Speaker 7 (24:38):
His contract is not for more than justin Herbert's. Herbert's
total values more. He got more guaranteed money. You can
look at the average annual value. They're about the same.
So I to his is a little bit more. But
it's it's Herbert naturally has a better deal. So let's
start there.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Do you want to play to his response to this
before we really respond to it.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, let's hear the response.

Speaker 12 (25:04):
Anybody can play quarterback in this league, then, I mean,
I want to see anybody on the streets come and
play quarterback. I mean, Cam, Cam's doing his thing, for sure,
But you know, to it's I think it's easier to
be able to hold a clicker and talk about it
that way, or talk about what someone else is doing
wrong when you're you're not going out and having to

(25:25):
do the same as them, right, So I think it's
it's it's all. It's easy to do that. I think
anybody can do that. I don't think anybody can play quarterback.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
So well, I think they're both wrong. You know, not
everybody can do what Cam does content wise. He's actually
pretty polarizing, But not everybody can do what what Tua
can do either, And that's the bottom line. Like they're
both right in some aspects, but they're both inaccurate than others.

(25:55):
I mean, that would be my initial take on it. Listen,
Cam is gonna Cam is going to try to get
under people's skin with his takes. I mean, I think
he's taken on the heel role of doing media, and
I think that's he's he's he's going to try to
agitate people in the way that he does it. And
he's got enough of a body of work where you

(26:18):
can't just approach him sideways and say, well, you know,
well when you have a clicker, da da dad, that's
where to what goes wrong with that? Because Cam actually
was really good as a player, so there is the
credibility of him having done what you had to do.
You know. The problem for Cam to do what he's doing,
I think that's more so him. You know, he's not

(26:41):
on a major outlet. You know, these things that come
from Cam are coming from his production solely, so he's
doing things that are gaining viral moments and it's gaining
attention on on what he's doing content wise. And honestly,
I know Cam. I don't know him, you know, now,

(27:03):
I don't know him very very digitally, but I've been
around in quite a few times early on in his career,
like maybe mid the whole under armoured days. But you
know Cam, Cam has good do ways. But he also.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, that was toua.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
That was Yeah. There you go. That's a couple of things.
That's what you get, a couple of things.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
I was going to just break it and say there
the last time to I saw Cam on the field,
Cam went five for twenty one with two picks and
Mighty beat the crap out of them. So his distortion
of Cam could be different because when he faced him
on the field, he didn't face the MVP version. So
there's a little bit of that where he's probably looking

(27:49):
back on it being like, dude, that was you know,
four years.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
Ago, and you know, we we got you or whatever.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
I do think what's interesting about Cam is like Cam
is one of the most physically gifted, Like people ask
all the time, like, if you had one college quarterback
to take a team to win a national championship in
college football history, would be And I'm always like Cam Newton
because if you look what he did with that Auburn team,
like there wasn't a ton of talent around him, And

(28:15):
that's no disrespect to all those players they want to
they won a national championship, but the reality is is
like at the end of the day, you know, he
carried that team. And I think there's an element of like,
if if Cam had won the Super Bowl, how much
how different will we talk about him as a former
player as an analyst all that, It would probably be
a lot different conversation than just a guy who won

(28:38):
an MVP and had a very successful career and made
a bunch of money and all that and a segue
into this this media realm, you know, we're probably looking
at him different from that standpoint, So look to.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Like I could be okay with him losing the super Bowl,
but I think a lot of people kind of judged
it off. Well.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
If he wins the super Bowl and doesn't go out
for the ball, none of that matters, right, So it's
like at the end of the day, so it comes
down to that again, if you win, nothing else matters
with that. I just but again, the reality is if
two is gonna hear a lot of this because he's
got to play better. They've got to figure out a

(29:16):
way for him now that he is the paid guy
to be able to get this team to be you
know what they've paid him to be that there's a
lot of truth in what Cam is saying and truth
and what two is saying. Like, it's a lot harder
than people make it sound. When we sit here as
armchair quarterbacks on Monday. It's a lot harder than that
to just sit there and say they should have went here,
they should have went there. Yeah, that might be what

(29:37):
you see on tape and on film. There's a lot
of reasons why guys don't go there with the football,
or guys couldn't go there with the football, or maybe
they're teaching the read different. Like every armchair quarterback on
Mondays loves to go, well, it goes one open dold field, Okay,
but the quarterback was taught to read it low to high,
so he's looking at the first reading the flat or
the first read short. Then he's working his way up

(29:57):
to the progression. So if the first guy's open, he's
not gonna pass him up. That's the first thing you're
todd as a quarterback. You don't pass up an open
guy and hope there's an open guy downfield. That's how
you get yourself in a bad habits in a lot
of trouble. So anyway, I just this is one We're like,
I don't really have a dog in the fight. But
if Tua is going to continue to keep receiving criticism

(30:18):
until they can figure some things out in Miami.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
When I watch sort of Tua's discussions this year that
he has publicly or the comments that he's made publicly
with the media, I look at him. I go, that's
a guy who's got a real perspective on things. And
he made a comment a couple of weeks ago where
they're talking about the outside criticism and outside noise. He's like, man,
I don't I don't partake in any of that stuff.

(30:42):
I don't go on social media. I get home, I
hang out with my kids, my wife and I play games.
We're watching like that's that's my life, that's what I
look at, and it's a guy who I watch him
and I go I wonder if the concussions. I wonder
if seeing his own mortality and stare him in the
eyes made him have a different perspective on this whole
thing to where it's like, I'm not going to pay

(31:03):
attention to all that stuff. I'm going to focus on
what I'm what it is I have to do, and
then after that understand that this could all go away.
But I'm not gonna get caught up in the noise.
And he never, he never. It doesn't seem like he
ever takes offense to it. He doesn't seem like what
is he supposed to do? He's the starting quarterback of
a team that people are waiting for the coach to

(31:24):
get fired, like he's the starting quarterback, and he's the
starting quarterback of a team that fired their previous head
coach based on the way that he coached him. So
of course he's gonna get asked questions of course he's
gonna so Cam Newton's like, why I liked it when
he was quiet? Well, if he's got a mic put
in his face, do you want him to be a
douchebag and no comment? No, No, he gives real answers,

(31:47):
he gives real conversation and has real discussions with the media,
and he doesn't get caught up in all the beat like.
He strikes me as zero drama, Like he's a zero
drama quarterback.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Like a super cool, humble dude. And that's to me,
honestly speaking. Living in California, if I if I had
been on the East Coast my whole entire life, I
may not have this type of perspective. But I did
coach at Long Beach poly and I have coached in
in in some areas in California, and football culture in
the Polynesian culture is tremendously big in California, in southern California.

(32:24):
And I've been around a lot of Polynesians and USO's
and and uh samoans. I've been around a lot of
really really good people. I haven't met one that I
didn't really really feel like dang, like just really really
good people, like really really humble type people, how humble

(32:48):
approaches to what they do to It seems to have
that same type type of mentality as the way it
comes across He's going to give you yeah, one hundred,
but this isn't And what's in question though, you know,
the integrity of who he is as a person, the
content of his character. I don't think that that's what's
in question. And I don't think that that's where Cam

(33:10):
was coming from and what he was saying. I think
he was making the observation of what he sees and
what he would like to see with the Tua situation.
That's why I think it ultimately comes down to, like
I said, for Tua, like you don't have to You
don't have to directly respond to that, you know, because

(33:31):
the media is always he's always Cam is going to
get the last word. He's going to get the last word.
You don't have to try to go back and forth
with Cam about what you need to think about, what
you need to do better. You choose how you want
to handle that in terms of internally with your teammates,
with your coaches and whatever. That message is that you

(33:52):
want to be your message going out to the media,
that's all he really needs to worry about and concern
himself with winning losing. It's you know, it's easier to
do these things when you're winning, super difficult when you're losing.
But but you know, carry yourself with integrity and with
class and with grace and and listen and and the

(34:12):
losses you show your to me. You show your character
more in losses than you do in winning. And and
so he's got to get through this. And how does
it end. I don't know how it ends. I really don't.
But I will say he needs to worry about playing
better and rallying the rest of that that Miami Dolphin

(34:35):
team to play better, versus worrying about what anybody is
saying out.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
There, especially considering some of us on the show picked
the Patriots to finish with third or fourth in the division.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
So I don't pick Miami to win or coming second.
I picked Miami to come in second. Yeah I did.
I'm off on too. I'm off on the boy.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
You need them, That's what I'm saying. You needed to
come around here.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
I need them.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
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He never rides the fence. And if you ever wanted
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Speaker 3 (35:15):
Up next, though, wonder where did you learn to be
so creative?

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Ding up next, so Transylvania, I believe. Up next though,
we are going to have another edition of Quinn's Wins
and you'll actually get to hear it this week right
here ont FSR.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
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off tough next hour a little over ten minutes from now,
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Speaker 5 (36:12):
Apparently I'm a winner.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Listen up.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Winning cures all illnesses, it really does. I'm going to win.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
It's Quinn's wins.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
Yeah, and you wouldn't know it based on our podcast.
But last week three and one, how about that hum Maryland,
Michigan unlv tit one there in Oxford, Ohio. But they
were able to come back and pull it out finally
against my vihio.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
And well, the loser was Illinois. They got drum by Indiana.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
We all witnessed that I have a loaded slate for
you this week. You have to little confident after being
three and one, nine and eleven overall in the season.
This week no one cares to hear about any of this.
LeVar doesn't put in the work, he doesn't care about it.
So he's gonna sit this one out. First game up,
we've got Alabama headed to Georgia.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
They're getting three points. Now here's the show word, Brady Quinn.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
This is not the same Bama team as we're a
customer to seeing taken on Kirby Smart, which by the way,
it hasn't been overly successful anyway. But this team struggled
to win on the road, and also they've been struggling
to run the football. I think three points, it's just
it's not enough in my opinion. So three on the dot.
There are DraftKings. You go ahead and lay them with Georgia.

(37:22):
They find a way of winning and covering this number.
Next up another SEC matchup LSU. They're headed to Old Miss.
Now they're getting a point and a half, so this
is basically almost up picking when it comes down to it.
But Austin Simmons, the starting quarterback for Ole Miss, he
is out. Sean Bliss goes in as the backup quarterback.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
I don't need much more than that. Besides the fact that.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
This transfer class has been phenomenal for LSU this year.
Their defense has improved by over sixty yards a game
and by multiple touchdowns per game. That's how much better
this LSU defense has been. Even though Garon Ussamuyer hasn't
got off to the the lightning hot start we thought
he was going to. I think they do enough not
only just to cover this number, but to outright win

(38:07):
at Old Miss this week, So LSU plus one and
a half, they're on DraftKings. Next up a battle in
the Big twelve. TCU, they're getting three. Headed to Scottsdale
to take on I should say Tempi to take on
Arizona State. Now, this was one of the toughest picks
for me this entire week. Josh Uver has been playing phenomenal,
maybe the best quarterback in the Big Twelve, but he's

(38:29):
gonna have a chance to prove it against Sam Levitt,
who's also been playing really well for Arizona State this year.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
It was a tough one. I think TCU is flying
under the radar.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
I think they're one of the best teams in the
Big Twelve this year, so I'm gonna take the three points.
TCU on the road, I think they start making a
claim for being one of the better teams in college
football and potentially being a playoff team.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
What it's all said and done.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
Next up, surprising number here for Florida State on the road,
headed to Charlottesville to take on Virginia. Florida State's given
seven points here. I just think with the way they've
been able to run the football and kind of dominate
the line of scrimmage. Don't want to say it's been
a surprise, but they've exceeded my expectations, and that defensively,
I don't think UVS be able to put up many points.

(39:11):
Go ahead and lay the seven points. Florida State continues
on building back up their reputation within the ACC and
the college football world. A couple a few more for
you loaded weekend of games UISC. I'll be there to
see them take on the fighting a line. I usually
don't pick games that we're actually at. This is one
no where. It's hard to ignore some of the deficiencies

(39:32):
that Illinois has on defense. In particular secondary which is
one of the strong points for USC is their passing game.
Jordan Miov has been phenomenal this year. Lemon Lane Lane's
actually questionable for the game. We'll see if you can
end up suiting up for it, but I think it's
just too much firepower for Southern Cow. They get another
win to stay undefeated, and you lay the seven points

(39:53):
with Southern Cow on the road. Another big one Ohio
State taking on Washington out in Seattle.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
This number has come down trum matically.

Speaker 7 (40:01):
However, it's gonna be interesting to see if Washington Huskies,
who haven't really played anyone, can keep this one close.
But the numbers eight and a half on DraftKings, I
like them on Williams Junior to keep this close. I
think the Huskies are able to keep it within the
eight and a half numbers. So take the points and
the Huskies at home, and finally the big one, Penn
State host an Oregon. They're given three and a half.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
We are take the Ducks. Take the three a half
in the Ducks. Oh no, oh.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
No, twins, wins.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Take Arkansas this weekend, Everyone take Arkansas.
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