September 29, 2025 • 33 mins
The guys talk about missing defenses for the Packers and the Cowboys as the SNF game ends in a 40-40 tie, the Baltimore Ravens falling to 1-3 amid a loss to the Chiefs and if Baltimore could actually miss the playoffs, Pete Prisco, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Areas and winning Jonas Knots on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, the return of Micah Parsons to Dallas last night,
and uh we get a damn tie. The Green Bay
deserved to lose time. They deserve to lose that game
with that clock management at the end in regulation and
in overtime.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Just ridiculous. It was a game, you know, it was
a game.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
And uh, I mean Dak Prescott showed up, Jordan Love
showed up. They were slicing and dicing. They played some football.
I don't I don't know. I don't know where the
defenses were. I thought that there would have been more
defense in the game, especially for Green Bay. I thought
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that they had a distinctive advantage hitting into this one,
just because you don't have CD Lamb in the game.
But I mean Pickings stepped it up for him, made
some big plays for him. Their defense they played well,
yeah he did, he did, but he had some big
moments for him. I mean he had some big catches
like at at good times from so determined. Listen, I
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think Dak Prescott and give credit to Schottenheimer. I mean,
I haven't seen this offense not look prolific since the
season started. Now, they didn't have the greatest of records.
They still don't have a great record right now was one,
two and one. It's it's not a great record, but
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it isn't because of the offense isn't isn't doing what
it needs to do. So you know, if the defense
can find a way to be better, Dallas could be
an interesting team to watch as the season continues on.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I think the one thing that stands out to me
is I think Green Bayley had one sack, you know,
so as much as I mean it kind of plays
to jerrys Jones point, like as much as you miss that,
you know, presence of Micah Parsons schematically what he can do. Cowboys,
I think had a sack, you know, Green band a
sack and Dallas about it like it was. And by way,
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Dallas's front did a decent job getting a pass rush too,
So I felt like watching it even though Parsons is
clearly the best edge rusher on the field, you know,
the impact that it had wasn't as big of a
mismatch as I thought it was going to be going
into it. And obviously by the way the game ended,
you know, it's it's you kind of take it away
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and just go all right. You know, maybe that trade,
which I thought that would be, you know, definitively in
the hands of Green Bay as far as winning that trade,
maybe with what Dallas does with the assets they get
back in return, and you know, looking at them in
the long term, maybe they're gonna be all right. You know,
maybe they're not gonna need him quite as much as
I thought they were gonna need him. Looking at how
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last night's game went.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, I think we all owe Jerry Jones an apology.
Dallas won that trade clearly based on what we saw
last night.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So how do you figure that that's a pretty like
that's a harsh conclusion. I mean you could what Q
said doesn't have to be like that's correct, Like I
could see the logic in that, But that doesn't mean
that Dallas won the trade situation. I mean, he's clearly
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made their defense better, and he was literally centimeters away
from causing a fumble or getting a sack. Other guys
were clearly very close to getting sacks. They pressured Dak Prescott.
He's made this team, this Green Bay Packers team a
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much formidable, formidable defense. So I don't know that it's
necessarily Like I look at green Bay and I think
that green Bay is a dangerous team. I've just recently
maybe feel comfortable saying that Dallas is better than what
that what I thought they would be.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But I don't think it's moved the need on saying that.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I look at Dalla, that Dallas as the as the
league dog in the NFC East and is heading in
a direction where they're they're truly a formidable opponent. Like,
I don't think that they necessarily won. They did not
become a better team when they got rid of Michael Parsons.
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How do we how does that game play out? If
Michael Parsons is on Dallas's side of the ball, maybe
a play happens that that dictates or determines the outcome
of the game.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
That's I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
It's necessarily an easy thing to say, Oh, Dallas won
the trade, Like nah, I think that's irresponsible to say that.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I mean, based on the score, we know that on
either side he would have given up forty points on defense,
and we know that, So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Again, I don't know that to necessarily be true. He's not.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
He wasn't on Dallas's side last night. He's not in
Dallas's scheme. I think he's still trying to get to
where he needs to be. He's dealing with his back.
I mean, obviously he was going in and.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Out his back.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It's finding doctor said he needs a backyotomy.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Said his back was broken.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
But I think once he gets a little bit healthier,
if he is able to get yeah, if he could
get healthier during the season, he'll he'll have an even
more of an impact.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So it's just a wait and see type of deal.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
But I don't think that Dallas did not win the
battle of the trade.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Like I broke my back.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
The most dominant player on the field last night was
Kenny Clark by a mile.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
By it well, I'm not buying it rushed. So that's
the That was the one definitive thing I'd say. If
you want to make a case for why Green Bay won,
it's because Dalla was not good against the run last night.
And that was the whole commentary from Jerry Jones following
the Traders, Oh we got better against the run, Like
all right, well you just gave up about over one
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hundred and sixty yards last time.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But imagine how much worse it would have been at
Kenny Clark not been there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I don't think that's making a case, and you sound
like a Penn stater, so there, Yeah, imagine if we
had thrown the ball all game, you know, more aggressive
in the past. I get it. It's the what ifs
that that always will plague you because in your mind
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you really believe it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
By the way, in all seriousness, green Bay almost lost
that game because of whatever they were trying to do
in overtime, Like they were like, if that ball just bounces,
you know, half a yard to the left or right,
there's not a second left on the clock, and they
lose on whatever the hell they were trying to accomplish there.
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And I don't know if it's because brand and Aubrey's
on the other side and that guy can hit seventy
yarders and they're like, well, we don't want to take
any chances. But what the hell was that. I don't
understand what they were planning. I didn't understand what they
were doing at the end of their regulation. It just
it didn't make any sense to me, and they nearly
lost that game because of it, So instead we get
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a damn tie?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What a bummer?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
So bad? I mean, I don't I'm so tired of this.
Can we not just implement some sort of rules, some
way of figuring this out? It's stupid?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Am I only one? It feels that way?
Speaker 6 (07:36):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Do you guys like ties?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
No? I don't. I do not. It was a bit
of a.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Cherry on top of my disappointing, disappointing weekend.
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Is it time to start worrying about the Baltimore Ravens,
who I believe two of the three of us picked
to go to the Super Bowl and now are sitting
(09:22):
at one and three after getting lit up by the
Chiefs yesterday.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Not this guy? Yeah take that. Take that. You know what, though,
I did forget that I picked the Kansas City go
to the super Bowl, So that didn't help because I
lost the pick and Lafar was actually again doing really
well in our picks.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I had Kansas City winning that one, right.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
You did? I believe you went money line?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I think I did. I think that. I said that
was the easiest money line of the week.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
That was.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
The hamstring issue on Lamar Jackson makes otherwise kind of
like okay, get through the lost type of deal with
Baltimore into a oh my gosh, if this couldn't be
the worst moment in time for our fearless leader, our MVP,
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our most dominant athlete and player at the quarterback's position
to go down. And hamstrings are tricky, man, they are
so tricky, and so now you're talking he's probably I mean,
I don't know how many weeks he may miss, but
when he comes back, that's one of those types of injuries.
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If you don't treat it with care and give it
the proper time to be able to get back to
full full strength and health, you'll you'll re injure it.
You'll continue to re injure it, and you will clearly
see the difference in his game because of so much
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being based upon his mobility. You'll see the difference, and
to me, a not so healthy or not as healthy
as can be. Lamar Jackson gives tremendous, tremendous cause for
concern as to what their season could end up being.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Remember, I forget what the conversation was. I think we
were just sort of busting balls and we looked up
that Cooper Rush was the only other quarterback on the roster.
I think Brady made the point like, you know, they're
kind of playing with fire a little bit there, and
well they got burned a little bit because.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
They had no hope. They had no hope.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, looks and here's the thing too, I mean, it's
the best Kansas City's offense has looked in a long time.
Like it's the best Patrick Mahomes has looked in along.
Like that looked like vintage Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City.
But if you look at Baltimore's losses, they had the
meltdown against the Bills in Week one, they got put
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in a clown suit by the Lions last week, and
then got destroyed yesterday.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
It's not even just Lamar.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Their defense doesn't look the same at all. And I
don't I don't know, man, it just doesn't feel like
a team that's heading anywhere close to the right direction.
And I'm starting to wonder if you know, maybe we
need to revisit that division at some point.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah. I mean, Pittsburgh's the team that there's some people
who weren't believers, but they're winning in Dublin, they're winning
here in the States, Yeah, and they look to beat
a team that's going to compete for the division. Baltimore's
got a lot of work to do. I don't know how.
I mean, it's odd too, Like there's situations where I
forget it was like third and two, third and three,
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something like that, and Romo brought up the point and
he goes and Derrick Henry's not in the game, like
basically being like, what are you doing? You have a
third and short and you don't have Derreck Henry in
the game. They had Justice Hill in instead. And it's
no disrespect to Justice Hill, but you know, it's not
the same caliber of running back and not the same
type of running back. And it's almost signaling that you
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know you're gonna throw or if you're gonna run, that's
not the guy you went running in between the tackles.
So even some of the calls they're making and at
times in which they're making them on offense are questionable
in a huge way. So I would say this has
been the most disappointing team in the entire NFL for
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the first four games. Yeah, the Ravens have. And because
you know, you go back and you look at that
Week one game, like you talked about, they should have
ran away with that when they're up on Buffalo to
give that thing away as bad as they looked last
week versus Detroit, and this game wasn't even competitive. I
mean it felt over at halftime, especially once Lamar went out.
It was it was done. So I'm not I'm surprised
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they haven't made a move for Jamis Winston or some
other backup quarterback that would give them an opportunity to
still remain competitive, because I think it's Cooper Rush. I
just I don't think he's got a scary defense is
once against in there, Most backups don't. But there's something
you sit there and say, all right, then go in
there and play some good football, winning some games.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Maybe go after Shador, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Mean, yeah, now he won't have to be a they
won't have to be a backup, you know, because they
weren't interested in being a backup, so you can maybe
get in there and start.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
A Man, it's a tough one.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
It's a tough one in Baltimore right now because there
have been questions and I think was it you Q
that asked the question? I thought it was a relevant question.
So if you if it was you, you good credit.
There have the Baltimore Ravens hit their ceiling with Harball.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I felt like that yesterday. I mean, it begs, it
begs the question.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
And seeing the way that they got dominated by Kansas City,
it almost makes you take a step back and be like, man,
we've looked at this Baltimore Ravens team for quite some time,
and do you ever really hear or see the criticisms
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come towards Baltimore the way they go towards the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And when you look at.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
These two franchises, they are mirror images in a lot
of ways, and likeness in terms of how they're able
to accomplish, how they're built, the cultures they're very very
very similar, very mirror like. And yet you hear every
single year the murmurs or the questions and the concerns
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about where Pittsburgh is. And I'll admit I'm one of
the people that has been a critic of have we
got to a saturation point? Have we hit the ceiling
of where the Pittsburgh Steelers are? And yet these sons
of guns continue to try to figure out ways and
are figuring out ways to win, and we're looking at
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a team just like them. And I rarely, if ever
hear the question outside I believe you asking it last week, Q, has.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
This team hit its ceiling?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Is there is there a moment where you got to
have a step back moment and ask has Harball taken
this team as far as he can take them?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
You know? And I feel like it's a legitimate question.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
The last two weeks or the first time where I
felt like, I don't know, like is this team a
playoff team? I mean, the Browns are getting They weren't yesterday,
they weren't the week before. But the Browns are getting
beat down. You know, that's they're in a state of disarray.
I'm not sure what we expect from the Bengals tonight,
but I don't think there's any expectations now that Joe
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Burrow is not behind center, and that leaves you with Pittsburgh.
I mean, coming into the season, I would have said
three of those four teams are playoff teams, teams that
if they get in, they could potentially win a Super Bowl.
Now you're looking at it saying I don't know that
they get more than the division winner in. And this
isn't an overreaction to what happened, or it's really looking
at it the last four weeks. Baltimore's got some amazing players,
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They're not playing very well together as a team. You know,
from from a football standpoint, complimentary football standpoint, I just
I don't see it. They've got some soul searching to do.
Man Like this is this is gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The reason why I'm not closing the coffin on the Ravens, well,
there's that, But also I think the AFC is not
has not been as good as maybe we thought going
into it. And look, it's because of the injuries. Joe
Burrow's not there. But even you know, other teams, whether
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it's Denver hasn't looked as good. Houston doesn't look anywhere
close to what people thought they were going to be.
Kansas City they look great yesterday, but you know, it's
it doesn't feel like it's the same Kansas City team
we've seen, so I do think there's there's an opportunity there.
I mean, they're banged up, they're banged up on defense.
Obviously Lamar's Lamar's injured as well too, But I just
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they're nowhere close to what I thought, and I think
what a lot of people thought they were, which they
were through about three and a half quarters of Week one,
and then ever since then, they've just been trying to
figure it out. And look, even if you go to
the Cleveland game they won, like it's it's not like
they were dominant in that game as far as you
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know yards, like the numbers and all that, Like the
score got away from him because but Cleveland's defense kept
them in check from a yard standpoint. It's just these
other games, like the Detroit game was bad. They were,
you know what, a two and a half point favorite
at Kansas City, and yeah, you're right, that game was
never close and as somebody who had Baltimore minus two
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and a half that pissed me off. That would have
been a three and a week gone.
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Good Morning's.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Right, Hi, Pete.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Your thoughts on the the Liam Cohen Robert Sala near
Donnie Broke that took place, and Robert Sala saying I
will end your effing life to Liam Cohen.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Well he might have if he had got to him.
I mean, I mean, I don't know if I'm Liam
Coan if I want to go mess with Robert Sala.
To be honest with you, but look why Robert Salas
said the stuff he did last week makes no sense
to me. Well it does, I'll tell you why. But
in terms of Liam Cohen, it makes no sense. If
you had a problem with Sean McVay, if you had
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a problem with Kevin O'Connell, and you believe something was
funky was going on in that tree of coaching staff,
then why did you just wait until Liam Cohne weeked
to say it. It made no sense to me. But
then the deeper you look into it, the more you
look into it, you know who the final was for
that job was, don't you. It came down to Liam
Cohen and Robert Salah and in the end they decided
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to go with Lee Cone. So maybe there's some bad
blood there and he brought it up that week. As
far as Liam Cone, look, I think his players will
look at that and say, Okay, our coach is whiting
for us, and I think that's why he did it.
But you saw that.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
What that was.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
The reality is it's one of those when a guy's
a tough guy, fake tough guys, hold me back, hold
me back, hold me back. He's got like all these
guys holding them back, and he really knows that they're
not going to let him go to get to him.
That's what that was.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Well, yeah, you want to buy him, and got about
ten yards away before he really started to chirp at him.
It was like, all right, if you really wanted to
throw down, you don't have to walk right by him,
just be like, hey man, let's go like what's up.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Yeah, But Brady. What was Robert Sala's mess? What was
he trying to say that that nobody I mean that
they're stealing signals or I mean everybody tries to steal.
Figure out something that when they're trying to steal signals, right, yeah, yeah,
we just talked.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
About in the last segment. It's not that big of
a deal. What he was doing to me was he
was basically saying he's not a good play call, he's
not a good offensive mind. You know, he's kind of
attacking as he go with all that. At least that's
my thought to all of it, because that's the only
to your point, that's the only thing that makes sense
is if he's holding any hostility from the interview process
and then who Jacksonville decided to go with, it would
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lead me to think that he's like kind of taking
a shot at him, which again is what it is.
Liam Cohen got the best of them in the end,
and in part because even though party put up a
lot of yards, just some kind of mistakes there down
the stretch. How did you view him kind of coming
back do you? I mean, again, I'm not saying mac Jones.
If he plays in that, they win the game. But
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you know, I just I go back and I look
at this team and I kind of feel like they've
maybe hit their ceiling.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
You know, Brady, did they rush him back? That's a
legitimate question. You would know better from a guy who
has maybe you had a toe injury or something that
everything was high on Sunday. So is there a problem
when you have a toe of being able to drive
the football?
Speaker 5 (22:55):
I mean maybe, Again, I can't speak to how he's
feeling about it. The transition of weight and how you look.
If you really want to get in the weeds on this,
when you have any sort of injury that impacts your feet,
your your you know, chain, you know, you're, you're, you're
you're basically throwing emotion like all the way from your
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feet up to your your hand. Any little injury along
the way that impacts how you how you're throwing. If
it's painful, you're going to naturally adjust your human beings.
We naturally don't like pain. We naturally try to like
adapt something to compensate for that. And so because of that,
you know, could he have been potentially not really driving
through snapping down some of his throws so they weren't
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sailing high of course, like all those things could play
a factor in all that. You know, only he really knows.
My thing is just like you made the change because
you felt like, I guess he was ready. Mac Jones
won two games like he was playing fine. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Last year they know how bad he is.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
It would have it would have been an amazing mac
Jones revet out there with Matt ten out there slinging
it around. I'm just saying, I would love to see
that he's pete.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Well, he's not any good. He's a backup quarterback in
the NFL twenty years.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Okay, what was your assessment Jackson Dart Then this is
what I want on here.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Well, I mean Jackson dark got schemed up for one
drive and then he became, you know, a young quarterback
you know, was struggling to make plays. That's what it was.
I mean, maybe he could becoming the first start. Brady
mac Jones has been in the league and have been
the starter for a while. He's just a guy, it's
all he is.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
He No one's making a comparison right now between Matt
Jones and Jackson Darth are two separate conversations.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
You brought it up.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Yes, what do you think of Jackson Dart?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
I thought he was okay. I didn't think he was
very good. I thought he was okay. I mean in look,
clearly he could move around and brings his life to
it with his legs and could do some things that
the other stiff couldn't do. But the bottom line is
he's got to be better and stay in the pocket
and go through his progressions. It's just going to take time,
but he gives them hope at least that you're Giants
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fan rather than moon ball Larry throwing them up on
the sidelines and throw them into the gold A.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Lot of those moon balls actually been touchdowns. I know
you're like ragging on him, but he's like top sixteen
I think in yards. They doesn't play every game Brady.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Last week he completed more passes to the goalpost than
he did the elite neighbors.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Come on, yeah, and now they don't have the league
neighbors based on what we're saying from the reports.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Yeah, that's terrible. That's terrible. Then and then the turf there.
You know, I know there's a whole issue, but you know,
at some point you got to figure out a way
to get grassed in those places because the turf is
awful on those guys.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Speaking of maybe what could be considered awful a forty
forty ot tie Pete.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
By the way, I didn't hear the way there we go,
Hey Labar, I didn't hear you in the beginning. I
thought you were hiding after that pet of state.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
No damn, hey, Pete, your hate is so real, man,
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And that's okay.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
And least at least we took it to ot. We
took a double ot and we had a chance, we
had the chance to win it.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Like, we didn't get blown out or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
What are you thinking.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You're getting?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
You're won?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
What I did say we almost won. I didn't say
that we almost won.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I just said that, you know, we were in a
good situation and we just didn't. You know, we didn't
finish it out, that's all. And I know you're you're
feeling real good about yourself because you guys got a
quality win against TCU.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Great.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
You know, I'm not a hater like you. Like look
happy for you. Your team won, got a big victory
against TCU. Great for you. But back to my original question,
how did you feel about a game finishing forty forty
tie on the what would be considered to be the
late night only game and the the you know, the
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show case green Bay versus the Cowboys Michael Parsons returns
home and plays against you know, Jerry Jones and the
evil Dallas Cowboy. What was your take on the game?
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Well, first off, the greatest pass rusher in the league,
according to you, didn't make a play really last time.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
He had a sack.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
No, he did.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
He had that chase him down on that running play,
and I mean that was basically it for him. The
other thing is I thought that the Green Bay Packers
and matt Lefloord Jess. But you're the last end of
the game scenario. And I'm not talking and I'm not
talking about just the last couple of plays. I'm talking
about the entire time. You're taking your time going down
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the field when you know you're in a situation where
you only have one time out and the clock is
going to keep moving. What were they doing? It was awful.
They acted like they had all day to get down there,
and then when they get down there, they got away
with one. Because I don't know what the hell they
were doing down there when they threw that pas into
the end zone. So bad clock management. And I hate
to see ties. But don't you think that if you're
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the cowboy, you come away from that thinking, okay, I'll
take this time, walk off with it, right?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Which about a way throwing shay that at Micah that
and you made the comparison between him and Miles Garrett.
You do know Miles Garrett touched the ball carrier twice
on Sunday and that was about it. You know, that
was about it for his production. You do know that, right, Yeah, Pete,
I haven't.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Wanted to take yet. I bet there's about fifteen hurries
involved in that well, and I bet.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
You there's about twenty hurries for Micah.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Yeah, he's not the same, but Miles he did have
a sack.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
By the way, Pete, I don't know why you're trying
to discredit that ub hits.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah, so there you go, Pee, Miles Garrett's better, you know,
I think I think that Pete, you get a little
bit kind of delusional.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
About how you see factual information as it applies to
you factual information, and then you come up with these
these wild assertions and that's okay. It's okay, Pete, because
I respect you and I respect your mind ultimately, while
we all bring you on the shows because we got
a crazy amount of admiration for you, Pete. So you know,
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but just in this one moment, right here, right now,
you're just you know, you're you're over your skis man,
you're on the wrong side of your bet.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
That's all, Pete.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
If you're the Miles Garrett of nf ATL analysts, who's
the Michael Parsons in the industry.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Look at that, Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Perfect.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
No, No, that's a perfect answer, Pete. You because you're
better than You're better than Pete Prisco.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So there you go. It was a great admission. There
you go.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I've got to out Pete.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Pete.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I've got a team in mind who has been the
most disappointing team to you so far this season, because
I've got one that I think stands.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Out by the way, Brady, I'm looking at the official
statue just like I thought, there's no stack from MICHAEH.
Parsons on the statue. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I don't think, yeah there is, well there is. I'm sorry,
I don't think. Oh Pete getting.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Bad, I.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
S LeVar, LeVar, I can say what I was wrong?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I was wrong?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Okay, okay, Well, can we transition to the team that
has disappointed you the most so far through four games
this season.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, that's a good question, Brady.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Why is that the Ravens and not just because struggle
with that?
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Well, I mean I wasn't as I thought they'd be good.
I didn't think they were gonna win the Super Bowl
like everybody else did. But yeah, one of three they've
been defense has been awful. I mean, my gosh. You
can do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you
want to that defense, and that's never been the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I mean you Pete, huh wow, look at you, LeVar,
take that, take them.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
But uh but when you look at the Ravens defense,
everybody runs on them. People throw on them, they push
them around. The guys are wide open. I mean, when
was the last time Patrick Mahomes looked like that?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I mean, had a worthy about that back helps But yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Yeah, true. But even with Worthy last year, he wasn't
put up four duckdown games, right, that was terrible on
Sunday And they have major issues. But the good news
for him is no Joe Burrow with the Bengals. The
Browns clearly have a quarterback problem. And are you true
believers in the three and one Steelers yet? I mean,
he's done a nice job with that team. Are you
believers in them as being a team that, you know,
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egg win the division and go to the super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, look, it's early. It's early. We did say that. Like,
it's probably been the most disappointing division in the NFL.
Where you thought there could be three teams are playoff teams,
now there might be one. I mean now again, I
think Baltimore will be able to climb their way back.
There are two talented there's too many stars in that team.
But you know, the other question is like can Pittsburgh
hang on? Like I think what they've done so far
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leads me to think they're only going to get better, Like,
I don't think they're gonna fall off, you know, kind
of like the offensive in the second half of last year.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
I would agree with you, Brady. I would agree with
you because you know, one thing that you're starting to
see is the young offensive line that they put a
lot of assets into. Those guys are starting to play better.
Like Fraser McCormick. You know, Fatanu. All those guys are
playing better, and once that offensive line gets going, they
start running the ball and take the pressure off of
Aaron Rodgers even more. I think that's really gonna help
them defensively. I still have concerns because how many geriatrics
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do they have on that defense. I mean that that's
an old that's an old defense. That's an old I
can say that because I turned sixty five on Sunday,
so I can say, Jerry.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Oh Man, yeah, man, you never know.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
You would never you would never know it, would you?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Almost?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
You almost out of here?
Speaker 6 (32:57):
LeVar LaVar. You know what I tell all of the
ball players. Look, I might be sixty five, How old
are you, LeVar?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Forty seven?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Okay, you multiply that by two because you played football,
so you're really ninety four. So shee uh enough, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Hey, I always say that, Pete. But you know what,
You're going to be right there with me, Pete. We
will be walking in the gates together.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Hey, LeVar, I'm going to live to be one hundred
and four years old, sitting on a caps crapping in
my pants, having somebody change my type. But bitching about
bad quarterback.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Popping blue shoes.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Do you one quick thing before we go? Brady Quinn
says he never gets sick. He told me that when
we work together, never sick, never gets sick. You got
a cold, Brady, you're lying.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
You gotta cold, Brady, I don't get sick.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
You got a cold, Brady Quinn.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
The allergies, she's allog.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
You're a liar, Brady, You're sick. You got a cold.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Pete Priscom people you said to get next to me,
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Areas and winning Jonas Knots on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, the return of Micah Parsons to Dallas last night,
and uh we get a damn tie. The Green Bay
deserved to lose time. They deserve to lose that game
with that clock management at the end in regulation and
in overtime.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Just ridiculous. It was a game, you know, it was
a game.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
And uh, I mean Dak Prescott showed up, Jordan Love
showed up. They were slicing and dicing. They played some football.
I don't I don't know. I don't know where the
defenses were. I thought that there would have been more
defense in the game, especially for Green Bay. I thought
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that they had a distinctive advantage hitting into this one,
just because you don't have CD Lamb in the game.
But I mean Pickings stepped it up for him, made
some big plays for him. Their defense they played well,
yeah he did, he did, but he had some big
moments for him. I mean he had some big catches
like at at good times from so determined. Listen, I
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think Dak Prescott and give credit to Schottenheimer. I mean,
I haven't seen this offense not look prolific since the
season started. Now, they didn't have the greatest of records.
They still don't have a great record right now was one,
two and one. It's it's not a great record, but
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it isn't because of the offense isn't isn't doing what
it needs to do. So you know, if the defense
can find a way to be better, Dallas could be
an interesting team to watch as the season continues on.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I think the one thing that stands out to me
is I think Green Bayley had one sack, you know,
so as much as I mean it kind of plays
to jerrys Jones point, like as much as you miss that,
you know, presence of Micah Parsons schematically what he can do. Cowboys,
I think had a sack, you know, Green band a
sack and Dallas about it like it was. And by way,
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Dallas's front did a decent job getting a pass rush too,
So I felt like watching it even though Parsons is
clearly the best edge rusher on the field, you know,
the impact that it had wasn't as big of a
mismatch as I thought it was going to be going
into it. And obviously by the way the game ended,
you know, it's it's you kind of take it away
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and just go all right. You know, maybe that trade,
which I thought that would be, you know, definitively in
the hands of Green Bay as far as winning that trade,
maybe with what Dallas does with the assets they get
back in return, and you know, looking at them in
the long term, maybe they're gonna be all right. You know,
maybe they're not gonna need him quite as much as
I thought they were gonna need him. Looking at how
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last night's game went.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, I think we all owe Jerry Jones an apology.
Dallas won that trade clearly based on what we saw
last night.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So how do you figure that that's a pretty like
that's a harsh conclusion. I mean you could what Q
said doesn't have to be like that's correct, Like I
could see the logic in that, But that doesn't mean
that Dallas won the trade situation. I mean, he's clearly
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made their defense better, and he was literally centimeters away
from causing a fumble or getting a sack. Other guys
were clearly very close to getting sacks. They pressured Dak Prescott.
He's made this team, this Green Bay Packers team a
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much formidable, formidable defense. So I don't know that it's
necessarily Like I look at green Bay and I think
that green Bay is a dangerous team. I've just recently
maybe feel comfortable saying that Dallas is better than what
that what I thought they would be.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But I don't think it's moved the need on saying that.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I look at Dalla, that Dallas as the as the
league dog in the NFC East and is heading in
a direction where they're they're truly a formidable opponent. Like,
I don't think that they necessarily won. They did not
become a better team when they got rid of Michael Parsons.
(04:36):
How do we how does that game play out? If
Michael Parsons is on Dallas's side of the ball, maybe
a play happens that that dictates or determines the outcome
of the game.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
That's I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
It's necessarily an easy thing to say, Oh, Dallas won
the trade, Like nah, I think that's irresponsible to say that.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I mean, based on the score, we know that on
either side he would have given up forty points on defense,
and we know that, So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Again, I don't know that to necessarily be true. He's not.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
He wasn't on Dallas's side last night. He's not in
Dallas's scheme. I think he's still trying to get to
where he needs to be. He's dealing with his back.
I mean, obviously he was going in and.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Out his back.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It's finding doctor said he needs a backyotomy.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Said his back was broken.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
But I think once he gets a little bit healthier,
if he is able to get yeah, if he could
get healthier during the season, he'll he'll have an even
more of an impact.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So it's just a wait and see type of deal.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
But I don't think that Dallas did not win the
battle of the trade.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Like I broke my back.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
The most dominant player on the field last night was
Kenny Clark by a mile.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
By it well, I'm not buying it rushed. So that's
the That was the one definitive thing I'd say. If
you want to make a case for why Green Bay won,
it's because Dalla was not good against the run last night.
And that was the whole commentary from Jerry Jones following
the Traders, Oh we got better against the run, Like
all right, well you just gave up about over one
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hundred and sixty yards last time.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But imagine how much worse it would have been at
Kenny Clark not been there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I don't think that's making a case, and you sound
like a Penn stater, so there, Yeah, imagine if we
had thrown the ball all game, you know, more aggressive
in the past. I get it. It's the what ifs
that that always will plague you because in your mind
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you really believe it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
By the way, in all seriousness, green Bay almost lost
that game because of whatever they were trying to do
in overtime, Like they were like, if that ball just bounces,
you know, half a yard to the left or right,
there's not a second left on the clock, and they
lose on whatever the hell they were trying to accomplish there.
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And I don't know if it's because brand and Aubrey's
on the other side and that guy can hit seventy
yarders and they're like, well, we don't want to take
any chances. But what the hell was that. I don't
understand what they were planning. I didn't understand what they
were doing at the end of their regulation. It just
it didn't make any sense to me, and they nearly
lost that game because of it, So instead we get
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a damn tie?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What a bummer?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
So bad? I mean, I don't I'm so tired of this.
Can we not just implement some sort of rules, some
way of figuring this out? It's stupid?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Am I only one? It feels that way?
Speaker 6 (07:36):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Do you guys like ties?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
No? I don't. I do not. It was a bit
of a.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Cherry on top of my disappointing, disappointing weekend.
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Is it time to start worrying about the Baltimore Ravens,
who I believe two of the three of us picked
to go to the Super Bowl and now are sitting
(09:22):
at one and three after getting lit up by the
Chiefs yesterday.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Not this guy? Yeah take that. Take that. You know what, though,
I did forget that I picked the Kansas City go
to the super Bowl, So that didn't help because I
lost the pick and Lafar was actually again doing really
well in our picks.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I had Kansas City winning that one, right.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
You did? I believe you went money line?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I think I did. I think that. I said that
was the easiest money line of the week.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
That was.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
The hamstring issue on Lamar Jackson makes otherwise kind of
like okay, get through the lost type of deal with
Baltimore into a oh my gosh, if this couldn't be
the worst moment in time for our fearless leader, our MVP,
(10:22):
our most dominant athlete and player at the quarterback's position
to go down. And hamstrings are tricky, man, they are
so tricky, and so now you're talking he's probably I mean,
I don't know how many weeks he may miss, but
when he comes back, that's one of those types of injuries.
(10:45):
If you don't treat it with care and give it
the proper time to be able to get back to
full full strength and health, you'll you'll re injure it.
You'll continue to re injure it, and you will clearly
see the difference in his game because of so much
(11:05):
being based upon his mobility. You'll see the difference, and
to me, a not so healthy or not as healthy
as can be. Lamar Jackson gives tremendous, tremendous cause for
concern as to what their season could end up being.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Remember, I forget what the conversation was. I think we
were just sort of busting balls and we looked up
that Cooper Rush was the only other quarterback on the roster.
I think Brady made the point like, you know, they're
kind of playing with fire a little bit there, and
well they got burned a little bit because.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
They had no hope. They had no hope.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, looks and here's the thing too, I mean, it's
the best Kansas City's offense has looked in a long time.
Like it's the best Patrick Mahomes has looked in along.
Like that looked like vintage Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City.
But if you look at Baltimore's losses, they had the
meltdown against the Bills in Week one, they got put
(12:07):
in a clown suit by the Lions last week, and
then got destroyed yesterday.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
It's not even just Lamar.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Their defense doesn't look the same at all. And I
don't I don't know, man, it just doesn't feel like
a team that's heading anywhere close to the right direction.
And I'm starting to wonder if you know, maybe we
need to revisit that division at some point.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah. I mean, Pittsburgh's the team that there's some people
who weren't believers, but they're winning in Dublin, they're winning
here in the States, Yeah, and they look to beat
a team that's going to compete for the division. Baltimore's
got a lot of work to do. I don't know how.
I mean, it's odd too, Like there's situations where I
forget it was like third and two, third and three,
(12:54):
something like that, and Romo brought up the point and
he goes and Derrick Henry's not in the game, like
basically being like, what are you doing? You have a
third and short and you don't have Derreck Henry in
the game. They had Justice Hill in instead. And it's
no disrespect to Justice Hill, but you know, it's not
the same caliber of running back and not the same
type of running back. And it's almost signaling that you
(13:17):
know you're gonna throw or if you're gonna run, that's
not the guy you went running in between the tackles.
So even some of the calls they're making and at
times in which they're making them on offense are questionable
in a huge way. So I would say this has
been the most disappointing team in the entire NFL for
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the first four games. Yeah, the Ravens have. And because
you know, you go back and you look at that
Week one game, like you talked about, they should have
ran away with that when they're up on Buffalo to
give that thing away as bad as they looked last
week versus Detroit, and this game wasn't even competitive. I
mean it felt over at halftime, especially once Lamar went out.
It was it was done. So I'm not I'm surprised
(14:04):
they haven't made a move for Jamis Winston or some
other backup quarterback that would give them an opportunity to
still remain competitive, because I think it's Cooper Rush. I
just I don't think he's got a scary defense is
once against in there, Most backups don't. But there's something
you sit there and say, all right, then go in
there and play some good football, winning some games.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Maybe go after Shador, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Mean, yeah, now he won't have to be a they
won't have to be a backup, you know, because they
weren't interested in being a backup, so you can maybe
get in there and start.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
A Man, it's a tough one.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
It's a tough one in Baltimore right now because there
have been questions and I think was it you Q
that asked the question? I thought it was a relevant question.
So if you if it was you, you good credit.
There have the Baltimore Ravens hit their ceiling with Harball.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I felt like that yesterday. I mean, it begs, it
begs the question.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
And seeing the way that they got dominated by Kansas City,
it almost makes you take a step back and be like, man,
we've looked at this Baltimore Ravens team for quite some time,
and do you ever really hear or see the criticisms
(15:30):
come towards Baltimore the way they go towards the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And when you look at.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
These two franchises, they are mirror images in a lot
of ways, and likeness in terms of how they're able
to accomplish, how they're built, the cultures they're very very
very similar, very mirror like. And yet you hear every
single year the murmurs or the questions and the concerns
(16:05):
about where Pittsburgh is. And I'll admit I'm one of
the people that has been a critic of have we
got to a saturation point? Have we hit the ceiling
of where the Pittsburgh Steelers are? And yet these sons
of guns continue to try to figure out ways and
are figuring out ways to win, and we're looking at
(16:29):
a team just like them. And I rarely, if ever
hear the question outside I believe you asking it last week, Q, has.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
This team hit its ceiling?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Is there is there a moment where you got to
have a step back moment and ask has Harball taken
this team as far as he can take them?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
You know? And I feel like it's a legitimate question.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
The last two weeks or the first time where I
felt like, I don't know, like is this team a
playoff team? I mean, the Browns are getting They weren't yesterday,
they weren't the week before. But the Browns are getting
beat down. You know, that's they're in a state of disarray.
I'm not sure what we expect from the Bengals tonight,
but I don't think there's any expectations now that Joe
(17:20):
Burrow is not behind center, and that leaves you with Pittsburgh.
I mean, coming into the season, I would have said
three of those four teams are playoff teams, teams that
if they get in, they could potentially win a Super Bowl.
Now you're looking at it saying I don't know that
they get more than the division winner in. And this
isn't an overreaction to what happened, or it's really looking
at it the last four weeks. Baltimore's got some amazing players,
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They're not playing very well together as a team. You know,
from from a football standpoint, complimentary football standpoint, I just
I don't see it. They've got some soul searching to do.
Man Like this is this is gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The reason why I'm not closing the coffin on the Ravens, well,
there's that, But also I think the AFC is not
has not been as good as maybe we thought going
into it. And look, it's because of the injuries. Joe
Burrow's not there. But even you know, other teams, whether
(18:17):
it's Denver hasn't looked as good. Houston doesn't look anywhere
close to what people thought they were going to be.
Kansas City they look great yesterday, but you know, it's
it doesn't feel like it's the same Kansas City team
we've seen, so I do think there's there's an opportunity there.
I mean, they're banged up, they're banged up on defense.
Obviously Lamar's Lamar's injured as well too, But I just
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they're nowhere close to what I thought, and I think
what a lot of people thought they were, which they
were through about three and a half quarters of Week one,
and then ever since then, they've just been trying to
figure it out. And look, even if you go to
the Cleveland game they won, like it's it's not like
they were dominant in that game as far as you
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know yards, like the numbers and all that, Like the
score got away from him because but Cleveland's defense kept
them in check from a yard standpoint. It's just these
other games, like the Detroit game was bad. They were,
you know what, a two and a half point favorite
at Kansas City, and yeah, you're right, that game was
never close and as somebody who had Baltimore minus two
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and a half that pissed me off. That would have
been a three and a week gone.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
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Good Morning's.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Right, Hi, Pete.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Your thoughts on the the Liam Cohen Robert Sala near
Donnie Broke that took place, and Robert Sala saying I
will end your effing life to Liam Cohen.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Well he might have if he had got to him.
I mean, I mean, I don't know if I'm Liam
Coan if I want to go mess with Robert Sala.
To be honest with you, but look why Robert Salas
said the stuff he did last week makes no sense
to me. Well it does, I'll tell you why. But
in terms of Liam Cohen, it makes no sense. If
you had a problem with Sean McVay, if you had
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a problem with Kevin O'Connell, and you believe something was
funky was going on in that tree of coaching staff,
then why did you just wait until Liam Cohne weeked
to say it. It made no sense to me. But
then the deeper you look into it, the more you
look into it, you know who the final was for
that job was, don't you. It came down to Liam
Cohen and Robert Salah and in the end they decided
(20:59):
to go with Lee Cone. So maybe there's some bad
blood there and he brought it up that week. As
far as Liam Cone, look, I think his players will
look at that and say, Okay, our coach is whiting
for us, and I think that's why he did it.
But you saw that.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
What that was.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
The reality is it's one of those when a guy's
a tough guy, fake tough guys, hold me back, hold
me back, hold me back. He's got like all these
guys holding them back, and he really knows that they're
not going to let him go to get to him.
That's what that was.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Well, yeah, you want to buy him, and got about
ten yards away before he really started to chirp at him.
It was like, all right, if you really wanted to
throw down, you don't have to walk right by him,
just be like, hey man, let's go like what's up.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Yeah, But Brady. What was Robert Sala's mess? What was
he trying to say that that nobody I mean that
they're stealing signals or I mean everybody tries to steal.
Figure out something that when they're trying to steal signals, right, yeah, yeah,
we just talked.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
About in the last segment. It's not that big of
a deal. What he was doing to me was he
was basically saying he's not a good play call, he's
not a good offensive mind. You know, he's kind of
attacking as he go with all that. At least that's
my thought to all of it, because that's the only
to your point, that's the only thing that makes sense
is if he's holding any hostility from the interview process
and then who Jacksonville decided to go with, it would
(22:15):
lead me to think that he's like kind of taking
a shot at him, which again is what it is.
Liam Cohen got the best of them in the end,
and in part because even though party put up a
lot of yards, just some kind of mistakes there down
the stretch. How did you view him kind of coming
back do you? I mean, again, I'm not saying mac Jones.
If he plays in that, they win the game. But
(22:35):
you know, I just I go back and I look
at this team and I kind of feel like they've
maybe hit their ceiling.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
You know, Brady, did they rush him back? That's a
legitimate question. You would know better from a guy who
has maybe you had a toe injury or something that
everything was high on Sunday. So is there a problem
when you have a toe of being able to drive
the football?
Speaker 5 (22:55):
I mean maybe, Again, I can't speak to how he's
feeling about it. The transition of weight and how you look.
If you really want to get in the weeds on this,
when you have any sort of injury that impacts your feet,
your your you know, chain, you know, you're, you're, you're
you're basically throwing emotion like all the way from your
(23:16):
feet up to your your hand. Any little injury along
the way that impacts how you how you're throwing. If
it's painful, you're going to naturally adjust your human beings.
We naturally don't like pain. We naturally try to like
adapt something to compensate for that. And so because of that,
you know, could he have been potentially not really driving
through snapping down some of his throws so they weren't
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sailing high of course, like all those things could play
a factor in all that. You know, only he really knows.
My thing is just like you made the change because
you felt like, I guess he was ready. Mac Jones
won two games like he was playing fine. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Last year they know how bad he is.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
It would have it would have been an amazing mac
Jones revet out there with Matt ten out there slinging
it around. I'm just saying, I would love to see
that he's pete.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Well, he's not any good. He's a backup quarterback in
the NFL twenty years.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Okay, what was your assessment Jackson Dart Then this is
what I want on here.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Well, I mean Jackson dark got schemed up for one
drive and then he became, you know, a young quarterback
you know, was struggling to make plays. That's what it was.
I mean, maybe he could becoming the first start. Brady
mac Jones has been in the league and have been
the starter for a while. He's just a guy, it's
all he is.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
He No one's making a comparison right now between Matt
Jones and Jackson Darth are two separate conversations.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
You brought it up.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Yes, what do you think of Jackson Dart?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
I thought he was okay. I didn't think he was
very good. I thought he was okay. I mean in look,
clearly he could move around and brings his life to
it with his legs and could do some things that
the other stiff couldn't do. But the bottom line is
he's got to be better and stay in the pocket
and go through his progressions. It's just going to take time,
but he gives them hope at least that you're Giants
(25:02):
fan rather than moon ball Larry throwing them up on
the sidelines and throw them into the gold A.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Lot of those moon balls actually been touchdowns. I know
you're like ragging on him, but he's like top sixteen
I think in yards. They doesn't play every game Brady.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Last week he completed more passes to the goalpost than
he did the elite neighbors.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Come on, yeah, and now they don't have the league
neighbors based on what we're saying from the reports.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Yeah, that's terrible. That's terrible. Then and then the turf there.
You know, I know there's a whole issue, but you know,
at some point you got to figure out a way
to get grassed in those places because the turf is
awful on those guys.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Speaking of maybe what could be considered awful a forty
forty ot tie Pete.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
By the way, I didn't hear the way there we go,
Hey Labar, I didn't hear you in the beginning. I
thought you were hiding after that pet of state.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
No damn, hey, Pete, your hate is so real, man,
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And that's okay.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
And least at least we took it to ot. We
took a double ot and we had a chance, we
had the chance to win it.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Like, we didn't get blown out or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
What are you thinking.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You're getting?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
You're won?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
What I did say we almost won. I didn't say
that we almost won.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I just said that, you know, we were in a
good situation and we just didn't. You know, we didn't
finish it out, that's all. And I know you're you're
feeling real good about yourself because you guys got a
quality win against TCU.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Great.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
You know, I'm not a hater like you. Like look
happy for you. Your team won, got a big victory
against TCU. Great for you. But back to my original question,
how did you feel about a game finishing forty forty
tie on the what would be considered to be the
late night only game and the the you know, the
(26:59):
show case green Bay versus the Cowboys Michael Parsons returns
home and plays against you know, Jerry Jones and the
evil Dallas Cowboy. What was your take on the game?
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Well, first off, the greatest pass rusher in the league,
according to you, didn't make a play really last time.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
He had a sack.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
No, he did.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
He had that chase him down on that running play,
and I mean that was basically it for him. The
other thing is I thought that the Green Bay Packers
and matt Lefloord Jess. But you're the last end of
the game scenario. And I'm not talking and I'm not
talking about just the last couple of plays. I'm talking
about the entire time. You're taking your time going down
(27:44):
the field when you know you're in a situation where
you only have one time out and the clock is
going to keep moving. What were they doing? It was awful.
They acted like they had all day to get down there,
and then when they get down there, they got away
with one. Because I don't know what the hell they
were doing down there when they threw that pas into
the end zone. So bad clock management. And I hate
to see ties. But don't you think that if you're
(28:07):
the cowboy, you come away from that thinking, okay, I'll
take this time, walk off with it, right?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Which about a way throwing shay that at Micah that
and you made the comparison between him and Miles Garrett.
You do know Miles Garrett touched the ball carrier twice
on Sunday and that was about it. You know, that
was about it for his production. You do know that, right, Yeah, Pete,
I haven't.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Wanted to take yet. I bet there's about fifteen hurries
involved in that well, and I bet.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
You there's about twenty hurries for Micah.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Yeah, he's not the same, but Miles he did have
a sack.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
By the way, Pete, I don't know why you're trying
to discredit that ub hits.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah, so there you go, Pee, Miles Garrett's better, you know,
I think I think that Pete, you get a little
bit kind of delusional.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
About how you see factual information as it applies to
you factual information, and then you come up with these
these wild assertions and that's okay. It's okay, Pete, because
I respect you and I respect your mind ultimately, while
we all bring you on the shows because we got
a crazy amount of admiration for you, Pete. So you know,
(29:17):
but just in this one moment, right here, right now,
you're just you know, you're you're over your skis man,
you're on the wrong side of your bet.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
That's all, Pete.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
If you're the Miles Garrett of nf ATL analysts, who's
the Michael Parsons in the industry.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Look at that, Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Perfect.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
No, No, that's a perfect answer, Pete. You because you're
better than You're better than Pete Prisco.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So there you go. It was a great admission. There
you go.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I've got to out Pete.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Pete.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I've got a team in mind who has been the
most disappointing team to you so far this season, because
I've got one that I think stands.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Out by the way, Brady, I'm looking at the official
statue just like I thought, there's no stack from MICHAEH.
Parsons on the statue. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I don't think, yeah there is, well there is. I'm sorry,
I don't think. Oh Pete getting.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Bad, I.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
S LeVar, LeVar, I can say what I was wrong?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I was wrong?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Okay, okay, Well, can we transition to the team that
has disappointed you the most so far through four games
this season.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, that's a good question, Brady.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Why is that the Ravens and not just because struggle
with that?
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Well, I mean I wasn't as I thought they'd be good.
I didn't think they were gonna win the Super Bowl
like everybody else did. But yeah, one of three they've
been defense has been awful. I mean, my gosh. You
can do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you
want to that defense, and that's never been the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I mean you Pete, huh wow, look at you, LeVar,
take that, take them.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
But uh but when you look at the Ravens defense,
everybody runs on them. People throw on them, they push
them around. The guys are wide open. I mean, when
was the last time Patrick Mahomes looked like that?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I mean, had a worthy about that back helps But yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Yeah, true. But even with Worthy last year, he wasn't
put up four duckdown games, right, that was terrible on
Sunday And they have major issues. But the good news
for him is no Joe Burrow with the Bengals. The
Browns clearly have a quarterback problem. And are you true
believers in the three and one Steelers yet? I mean,
he's done a nice job with that team. Are you
believers in them as being a team that, you know,
(31:36):
egg win the division and go to the super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, look, it's early. It's early. We did say that. Like,
it's probably been the most disappointing division in the NFL.
Where you thought there could be three teams are playoff teams,
now there might be one. I mean now again, I
think Baltimore will be able to climb their way back.
There are two talented there's too many stars in that team.
But you know, the other question is like can Pittsburgh
hang on? Like I think what they've done so far
(32:00):
leads me to think they're only going to get better, Like,
I don't think they're gonna fall off, you know, kind
of like the offensive in the second half of last year.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
I would agree with you, Brady. I would agree with
you because you know, one thing that you're starting to
see is the young offensive line that they put a
lot of assets into. Those guys are starting to play better.
Like Fraser McCormick. You know, Fatanu. All those guys are
playing better, and once that offensive line gets going, they
start running the ball and take the pressure off of
Aaron Rodgers even more. I think that's really gonna help
them defensively. I still have concerns because how many geriatrics
(32:31):
do they have on that defense. I mean that that's
an old that's an old defense. That's an old I
can say that because I turned sixty five on Sunday,
so I can say, Jerry.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Oh Man, yeah, man, you never know.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
You would never you would never know it, would you?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Almost?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
You almost out of here?
Speaker 6 (32:57):
LeVar LaVar. You know what I tell all of the
ball players. Look, I might be sixty five, How old
are you, LeVar?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Forty seven?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Okay, you multiply that by two because you played football,
so you're really ninety four. So shee uh enough, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Hey, I always say that, Pete. But you know what,
You're going to be right there with me, Pete. We
will be walking in the gates together.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Hey, LeVar, I'm going to live to be one hundred
and four years old, sitting on a caps crapping in
my pants, having somebody change my type. But bitching about
bad quarterback.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Popping blue shoes.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Do you one quick thing before we go? Brady Quinn
says he never gets sick. He told me that when
we work together, never sick, never gets sick. You got
a cold, Brady, you're lying.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
You gotta cold, Brady, I don't get sick.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
You got a cold, Brady Quinn.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
The allergies, she's allog.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
You're a liar, Brady, You're sick. You got a cold.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Pete Priscom people you said to get next to me,
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