Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Jonas, Brady, & LaVar talk about the Wild Card round of the MLB playoffs bringing us THREE do-or-die Game 3s, how Shedeur Sanders is showing he may not be ready to be "the guy" based on his "mime" response to reporters, Albert Breer explaining the softest look in sports, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
How are you what a night of baseball, What a
night at baseball?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Say that again?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
The best Jonason inspired me.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
You know, once he kind of called out the fact
that he's like, yeah, you know baseball, it's been awesome.
I was like, maybe I'll watch a little bit with
the girls. Man, they were into it, they were excited.
I uh, I forgot my uh my mother in law
is gonna be in talent. She's a huge Boston Red
Sox fan. So it was kind of nice seeing the
Yankees extended a little further.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know what I'm saying, little gouge there, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know, where did the Red Sox fall in the
pecking order of their sports loyalty to Boston?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
That's a good question.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
I think there's somewhere below the Bruins and Pats, though,
but they're higher than the Celtics, So I think it's
like probably Pats, Bruins, Red Sox, Celtics.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I think, although the Red Socks of Broads could be close.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I just I think that uh this and it'll never happened.
And I made the comment to you yesterday, but the
best of three element to the wild card round in
the playoffs, Oh, it's awesome. It's awesome because right out
of the gate you lose one, you're on like you
are on the brink from the get go, and in

(02:24):
the NBA and in the NBA you don't have any
of that stuff. It's not to pick on the NBA
because the past postseason was was fun. There was a
lot of exciting moments, a lot of exciting games, like
all of that. We got we got our Game seven's
all of that. But there's just too much of ah, whatever,
We'll get the next one. And in baseball you can't,
like you have to get that one otherwise your your

(02:46):
back is against the wall and you're you're fighting for
survival ever after that moving forward.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
So I think it's right, You're right, and the atmosphere
is fantastic too. What's wrong, Sticks.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Well, what's up with your cubs? I mean, we're putting
we're putting teams on the brink of.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
On the brink.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
We're putting teams in order of importance. How high are
they on your list and how quickly are they hitting.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Home on the brink? And uh and probably today that
today will probably be that that'll probably do it based
on their history. But yeah, they got another game to
play with and now you've got three game threes coming
up later and it's winner go home for all those teams.
I mean the Dodgers Red Series whatever that was, that
was you know, kind of a kind of a wasted

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what the Red is just.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Happy to be there. And then and you look at
that game. They were up early, weren't.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
They was like to nothing, they were two nothing on
an air and then they were just holding on for
dear life afterwards. But you know, the Dodgers moving forward,
their bullpen is just leaky legal. What was the payroll
difference between those two significant million?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Significant?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Can they win it with a league? What a leaky
uh bullpen?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
If they get really dominant pitching, like dominant starting pitching
and their offense explodes.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
But the problem is don't you need your bullpen when
you get to this time of the year though, Like
that's like that's like what bullpens are made up, Like
that's how history's made with bullpens, right, Yeah, that's and
that's the problem. I know this to be true because
I am a outside of being a growing up Pirates fan,
I am a Washington Nationals fan by you know, the

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way of living.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
There and being part of the community.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
And I just could remember the Rizzo years when I
was there, the like the early Strasbourg years, like our bullpen, wow,
you know, it had Zimmerman and all those guys.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I was like like, all right, we're going to get
through it. We're going to get through.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
And then they start having all this talk about the bullpens,
and as good as our bullpen was, they couldn't get
us over the hump back then. And I just recall
that being like that was literally the biggest conversation of
the playoffs, was like the bullpen couldn't you know, they
just couldn't close.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Out the games.

Speaker 6 (05:07):
And anyway, Yeah, so while I am not a big
baseball fan, I do watch playoffs. I was actually at
Rock and Bruise with Trician Pen after pens volleyball session
yesterday and I was watching. But it's weird because you know,
I can't really get into it. Like I was listening

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to you know, I was asking myself the question, like
how can you tell what type of pitch they're throwing?
Like I could see like some of them, the one
guy who was throwing it, it dropped and it was
like right near the dude shin cap and all that
stuff like that, and it was.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
A strip flit finger fastball there.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
Maybe it was a fast one though it was It
wasn't like all I'm I'm sitting there and I'm like, yeah,
I can't you know, And baseball isn't it. I don't
think it's crazy hard to be able to apprehended and
keep up with it. I just you know, like what
type of pitch was that? Or why are they doing this?
And you know that was really it. And you know,

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some of the people they're just not they're not made
from from this this earth, like Judge is not.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
He's not.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
He's pretty half cyborg too, like he's a He's a
pretty interesting looking dude too, man. I mean, but he
and Otani's just different, different man. But I mean, Judge
is a different looking dude too. And I guess, you know,
I don't know. I guess that wasn't really good enough

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for them in the playoffs, but I mean, or hasn't
been or we'll see, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I watched, but it.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
Just doesn't like really like doing analysis work or like
would I ever call a baseball game or be a
part of it like that.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I guess I leave that to you guys.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
And I've enjoyed listening to the commentary of family family
rankings of teams and and and you know, wild cards
and how interesting they are and and what led to
me jumping in, which was bulletin bull pen discussion. So
thanks for that, guys. Listen, I'm I'm happy to be
a part of them.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
If there's a if you can sense the stress level
of the fans in the stadium and it comes through
on the television, I think that's good television. It's why
It's why the Penn State organ game was great television,
because you could tell the intensity. It's why fantastic stressure.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Well, it's always a good comparison when when it comes
my way and it didn't come out the way it
was supposed to, you know, because I would still be
being a sore sore winner right now had we won
that game. I feel like football Jesus didn't want us
to win because of the type of person I would
be on this show.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
To you both, you're spiteful.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Why is that? I mean, aren't you there would be
the most mature.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
I'm from Pittsburgh, right, But like even what I was like, Hey,
take Oregon in three and a half, You're like two
orchard saw and I was like, oh, well, I mean
Notre Dame beat him so bad that Sam Pittman got fired.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
It's like, geez, do you have as many We don't
have as many losses as Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Though I understand that.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
But my season, I'm just by the end of the season,
it's gonna look exactly the same.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Buddy.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I'm gonna tell you, hey, don't.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
Buddy me when we're talking about Penn State. All right,
hey buddy, you don't, buddy. We are bros, but but don't.
But you know, buddy, when my brother used to do
that to me, and that was my older brother, I'm
punch him right and his right and is like his
is uh, what what is that on the side of
your your your your stomach, your what's on the side
your liver bleak? The oblique?

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Is that what it's?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Liver shot?

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah, liver shot, buddy.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Buddy was the dismissive term that would get you going.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
That My brother would hit me with, Hey, buddy, not
pal like chill buddy, not Jerko.

Speaker 7 (09:08):
My buddy, buddy, my buddy, right right, he's going to go,
my buddy, buddy, my buddy, buddy, you.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Have any loser kids actually asked for this when they
were younger. Okay, I don't have any real friends. Can
I get it? Can I get a stuffed animal that
looks like a human? What a bunch of loser?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Are those cabbage Patch kids?

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Like they look like it a little bit though, look
like little Chucky's.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Because something about the way cabbage Patch kids smelled.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Oh my goodness, really I want to sniff one right now.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Back to grown man talking and then like mouth buddy,
yeah yeah, but bud, like we we we're going forehead
to forehead on Buddy, like hey, buddy, like whatever you say, buddy,
And then when pow, when pal come out, then you
knew it was it was time to touch.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
We was going to touch gloves. You know what about Chief?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
If someone's like all right, Chief, that's fun, how do
you take that one?

Speaker 6 (10:15):
I feel like Chief was like respectful, like hey chief,
host hoss Chief. Those were like kind of like endearing
terms like you're a bad what about you know?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
B u? B Bub?

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Yeah, bub is kind of like indifferent. You're not really important,
but you're not really like being slighted either, like hey, bub,
like you know.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
What about watch it bub Yeah, watch.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
It bub Like it's not intimidating in any way. It
doesn't make you feel, it doesn't incite any emotions. Nothing
comes from bub, you know, nothing, but buddy. Buddy is
like kind of dismissive. It is kind of dismissive. And
if you're dismissing me, I'm going to want to fight you.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I'm just fiteful that I saw those skinny arms you've got.
I'm willing to fight you. Yeah, the skinny arms. Okay,
I'm so glad you set that screenshot.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
I didn't realize, like the shoulder pads were massive when
you played in college. But yes, it was like, kind
of have those skinny arms.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
I've always been skinny, bruh, except my belly in my face.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
It's the only thing that get away from me. I
quit drinking. I'm not drinking anymore. I'm going to lose
at least twenty thirty pounds. It's also the right way. Yeah,
it's awfo, do it the right way. I'm going to
start walking, I'm going to stop drinking. I'm going to
keep smoking, but I'm not going to.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Drink there's there's probably some other people who could use
that advice.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
On the shot.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I think we're too soon.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Wherever you say you know, well, hey, you know whatever
you gotta do, you know you got to do it.
But I'm not doing it for that. I'm doing it
because it just makes my belly big. And back to
my little ass arms. They work really really well though,
like they're they're like, I'm like Buster Douglas.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I'm not.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
I'm not like Bruno. Like I'm not. I'm not like
one of these yoked up boxers out here. I got
the bad body, I got the Larry Holmes body. But
but these things right here, they're working muscles.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Hey Larry Holmes, underrated boxer.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Yeah, they're working muscles. I will jab the hell out
of somebody, you know what I mean. There's some real
power there too, you know what I mean, arm wrestle me.
I'll show you how these little arms work.

Speaker 8 (12:42):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Now, not to uh not to deter from you know,
this discussion about violence in the world. Now, let's get
back to Brady's thoughts on Tribe time. Game three Tigers
Guardians coming up.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Electric at three years atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, I'm uh no, do you have Do you have
any guardians gears it all the Indian stuff anymore?

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I don't have one thing that says guardians on it. Look,
I was never whatever what do you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, all I know is there will be enough juice
in that place to be able to get a win today.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
All right, That's all I know.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
But here I'm not gonna try to break down the
games because no one gives a crap a baseball guys,
so no one cares. What what? There is this conspiracy
theory out there is someone said to me, They're like, oh,
just how major League Baseball wanted it all game threes?
And I was like, well, okay, not all. Like obviously
the Dodgers took care of business. But there's also this

(13:48):
sense of like the TV networks wanted the leagues don't
care really, like ultimately they don't care like the leagues
like they just wanted to be close games, fun games,
great atmosphere, but like it's the networks who care. The
networks have already paid for this, so they're the ones
that hoping that it gets to three games and that
every series after that goes to seven or whatever the

(14:10):
best of is.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
So they can make back their money. That's what it
matters to. So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
I just there's like this conspiracy theory floating around there
online of like, first off, why are you complaining it's awesome?
Like these are going to game threes. It's more intense.
It's like, how is major League Baseball catching this stray
for this?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And also, if you look at the matchups, Cleveland Detroit
know each other and they're in the same division. They've
been battling it out for a playoff spot for weeks now.
Boston and New York know each other, and the Cubs
and Padres have almost the identical record. It's not that
far fetched to think, oh, they might have split the
first two and it's going to go to game three
and they both want a game like it's just like

(14:50):
they're matched up evenly if you look at the lines,
like they're matched up virtually evenly across the board. The
Dodgers and Reds was an anomaly, like the Mets would
have been a better better matchup because they had more power,
there was more opportunity for a potential win. But like
these other games, like yeah, it's the play it's the
best of the best, like there's there's not as much

(15:12):
of a difference where you look at a one versus
an eight in the NBA and you're like, all right,
this is a waste of time, Like that's that's not
what this is. And that's why the MLB postseason is
in my mind better than the NBA playoffs, and fan
boys can argue against that. They all they wanted, just
not the case.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
Is the SE in the logo from the old logos
list or is it?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Is it new? Is the C new or has it
been there for the entire.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Time all the Guardians.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
I know that the Guardians is different, and I know
that that's new, But is it like a sneaky like
type of deal to have the C because isn't the
C still from the old logo key? Or was that
made new when they changed the Guardians. I know they
had to change the Guardian and it looks similar still
the same. It does look similar, but they had I.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Think there's like two or three different seas.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
You believe you're not going to find a lot you're
I think you're right. It's it was their way around
the old old C.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
The the old sea was like the top of it
was rounded. And now that the sea it's like pointed.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
It's pointed, but that's not they didn't have that in
the old key that was created now with the guardians.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Look, yeah, the old sea was just like rounded at
the top and kind of flytt and same thing for
the bottom.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
See.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
I feel like then they should use the old sea
so that you can bring back some of that old
swag man.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Like that's what I think the problem.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
I mean sometimes like because you know, Washington didn't have
many you know, they didn't have a whole bunch of
different I mean the R, you know what I mean.
But you couldn't get away with the R because the
R still represented red skin.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Right.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
So but you guys got to see for Cleveland, I
use that old seed, like I would have never changed
the sea.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Why change the sea? Well, just keep the sea the same.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Most of the old stuff as Chief Wahoo, which.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Was you know, the vintette. But the sea doesn't, I know,
but the old seed doesn't.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
And that gives you an opportunity to still kind of
stay connected to the past, you know what I mean,
Like the old sea.

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Speaker 2 (18:09):
Speaking of Cleveland, speaking of the Browns, they made a
decision yesterday at quarterback. Joe Flacco has been benched. Dylan
Gabriel is going to be the starter, with Joe Flacco
being number two on the depth chart and Shador Sanders
remaining number three and so. Kevin Stefanski, the head coach,

(18:30):
discussed the decision into giving Dylan Gabriel the opportunity and
also was asked about why Shador didn't move further up
the depth chart.

Speaker 10 (18:39):
From the second he's been here, he's been working very hard,
very intelligent young man. He's done a nice job throughout
practice this whole season. He's been learning how to get
yourself ready and understand the rhythm of an NFL week
and what that looks like as a backup and obviously
now feel like he's ready, that's going as a starter.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
And they're talking about Dylan Gabriel right there.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, he's talking about Yeah, Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Who do you think you was talking about?

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Well, I was just making sure that the audience out
there understood that, because it's like, wait, is he telling you?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I know you're trying to do it's a social.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Hype him up at all. I'm not trying it's a
social mind.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
What is the biggest headlines? The biggest headlines when you
type in Browns, the first thing you should see come up.
ESPN pundits give Shador Sanders advice, Joe Flacco blindsided by benching,
Dylan Gabriel, Chador Sanders facing questions goes full full. Mine

(19:44):
Brown's quarterback tiers, evaluating forty one starters from Cleveland since
ninety nine. Two out of the fore headlines that pop
up Q have Shador Sanders in them and we're talking.
I'm not trying to hype it up. I'm just telling
you that this is a conversation that brings in Shador

(20:05):
Sanders every single time I was.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I asked the question because I felt like, we'll.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Talk about why we're talking about him today, because we
have sound, we have Door's reaction to this news, and
that's why we're talking about it today. We're not talking
about it for any other reason other than what he
did yesterday in reaction to all this.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Is that fair?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, and the sound of Shador from yesterday.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Let's hear it. Well, can we hear him? Yeah, here's
a real question.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, he didn't. He didn't say anything, uh exactly. Kevin
Stefanski was asked about why Shador was not named the
the backup, and it sounded like this was.

Speaker 9 (20:49):
There along with changing to ktill.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Was there any conversation at all about being number two
and making.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Sure my focus is on this game, Joseph back up?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, so she Door no comment turned into a mime,
you know, played along with the media. A member of
the Browns media relations team pulled them away afterwards. And
there was no so.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Just accurately describe what he did, because I don't think
people understood context.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
The door stood there in front.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Of the media and they asked him questions and he
moved his mouth, but he made no words came out.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
And he did this for what five minutes, four minutes
whatever it was?

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Uh, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
It was a little while.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
It got to the point where and I had a
couple media people reach out and their comments were literally,
that was the oddest. That was the weirdest thing I've
ever experienced covering the Browns. And these are people who've
covered it for a long time. And I said to myself,
like they've seen a lot of things, like that's that's

(21:54):
saying something. But supposedly this was in response to something
that was said on ESPN and by someone who's taken
a lot of uh, a lot of hot takes so
far this year.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Do we have the sound for Rex Ryan?

Speaker 11 (22:06):
An outstanding coach, all right, but why the hell isn't
he putting should or Sanders. We're all waiting to see
this Shud or Sanders be the guy or Gabriel whatever.
Something's missing, something's missing with this kid. This kid talks
he runs his mouth like he's a I could be
a starting quarterback with his arms crossed like this. Get
your ass in the front row and study and do

(22:28):
all that. If I know, the whole league knows, quit
being an embarrassment that way. You got the talent to
be the quarterback you should be you should be embarrassed
that you're not the quarterback now.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Oh wow. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
So supposedly this is why he didn't say anything, and
this is why he did what he did, which was
just incredibly odd.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Like I don't even know what to make of that.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
It comes off as very immature as a response, even
if it was to Rex Ryan bizarre. I mean, I've
never seen a player handle things like that before.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
There's kind of cringey, kind of all that.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
My old thing on Dad, get out a dude in
Cleveland reporter, didn't he like bathe him?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
And after they won the.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
That was Cleveland as Oh that was Tim Tim McCarver, yeah,
the uh yeah, the broadcaster. I I don't I look
at it like this. If should or obviously once would
love to be the starter. He would love to be
the guy that is starting for the Browns this weekend
and moving forward and my old thought on it, just
in general NFL or anything. If you want the job

(23:42):
and you don't have the job, then your job is
to show why you should be the guy who does.
And he's done everything the opposite to where Kevin Stefanski's
having to answer questions about, hey, you know, Shador says
he's ready to start, it's a okay, Well, I think
all of our young guys feel like they're ready to start.

(24:03):
And he turns into a min yesterday when there's a
decision made at quarterback. The whole thing's just odd, and
I don't know why. How could you think that that
would get you closer to an opportunity to be somebody
that they trust. And maybe this is part of the
reason why some of the stuff came out in the draft.
Why Brian Daball was like yeah, like he wasn't prepared

(24:25):
and then he got upset when I called him out
because you know, he didn't know certain things, and like,
all these stories start to add up and you look
at it and go, why would they Why would Kevin Stefanski,
whose job might be on the line, trust his fate
with the Browns on somebody who you know, turns into
a mine when people ask him about the quarterback situation

(24:46):
there for five minutes or whatever. It was just strange.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Man oh man, go ahead, Q you want it, you
have it.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
I mean, well, I've already said my part. I mean,
like I said, I've never seen anything like this before.
And this isn't like an exclusive thing to the Browns.
I just I think it's an incredibly immature way of
handling the media for as media, as savvy as he
is and and the family is.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
For that matter. You know, you know he's been taught
and raised different and so's it's one of those moments
where you know, he like he's a rookie, He's gonna
make mistakes. This to me is a mistake.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
It's not how you you know, handle criticism from Rex Ryan.
And the other thing is is like he's always putting
out this like I don't listen to the criticism.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I don't listen to any of that.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
I don't belie so well, yeah you do, because you
just did one of the most bizarre things we have
ever seen as now a professional athlete in the NFL,
and it's only creating more stir like not for what
you're doing in practice or playing like one of the
things that we heard about Jackson Dart with the Giants organization,
and Breer said this, and I had reached out to

(25:50):
Dable and talked to some of the people in the
organization and this is like earlier on a camp and
they're like, yeah, we feel like this thing is like
he's writing like more ready than we thought, Like he's
more ready to take over and be the guy than
we thought. But we're gonna kind of stick with the
plan and see how this thing goes. And so when
you see Jackson Dart succeed and they even didn't light

(26:11):
the world on fire, but they gotta win, then that
was a change. And then you watch how he handles
the press, you watch how he handles everything. You're like, Okay,
that guy seems like he's ready for it. Does this
make anyone feel like Shadoor Sanders is ready to take
over the Rains be the starting quarterback? Like it leaves
me to think that if you're not gonna listen to
a guy like Rex Ryan, who's probably hearing from people

(26:34):
inside the Browns organization because there's always leaks there that
whatever he's doing or whatever they've seen, you know, seen
heard that he's not ready, Like he's trying to give
a little bit of advice here, Like I know it
comes off as him being critical or you know, providing criticism,
but the reality is he's trying to get you to

(26:57):
be the guy that Cleveland's hoping you'll be. You say
you are. I think a lot of people are hoping
you'll be. And so if you don't want to, you know,
listen to that and take that as like, all right,
maybe I need to look in the mirror. Maybe I'm
not doing something the right way. But instead that's your response,
I don't know like that, That to me leads me

(27:17):
to think that when he does get the play and
things don't go well.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Who do you think he's gonna blame? Then who do
you think he's gonna point the finger at?

Speaker 4 (27:25):
He said Rex Ryan.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
If I know everyone knows, that's a damning comment, Like
that is a that is something to really if I
wish the door, I wouldn't be handling it that way.
I'd be sitting there and I'd be thinking about it, like, man,
I gotta make sure I have a job. You know
what third string quarterbacks represent, you know what third string
anything represents. You're actually closer to being out the door

(27:51):
than you are in the door. Let's just be clear here, like,
that's that's a real You are the most expendable player
on a roster outside of a practice squad player, which
some would say third string is a practice squad player.
Like that's that's the reality of the position. But then

(28:13):
now what jumped out at me is again, as the
question was asked and Stefanski said, I'm concentrating on this game,
you did not because you probably at one in three
you would probably release Joe Flacco if you felt like
Shador Sanders was a legitimate option to go to as

(28:34):
a player and you would elevate him to back up.
You did not elevate him to back up. You kept
him at third string while elevating your backup to starter.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
And he's a rookie.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
So if you just if you take the naming rights
of this out of the equation and you just look
at this at at face value. There again, I was
surprised he made the team. I really was, because I
didn't think that they would carry all three of them,
and being a fifth round draft pick, I just I
know you get guaranteed money or you get a contract

(29:11):
out of the situation, But I just didn't think he'd
make the roster. As you move forward and you see
a team that is failing, and a failing team isn't
taking a more serious look and approach to how you
move up and elevate into the roster and how that

(29:37):
may play out. I think that you're now making book.
If I'm around the league, this is not more of
a personal, you know, opinion. I think it's more of
a general assumption and opinion as it would apply to
other teams, other gms. If I'm looking at how this
is playing out in Cleveland, he becomes a radio active player.

(30:03):
And when you look at when you look at how
it all played out in the draft, and how the
narratives were so strong towards Shador, and how the whole
draft was driven by Shador, and all of these storylines
that continue to come out. The worst thing that Shador

(30:25):
Sanders could ever do is whether for right or for wrong,
whether I'm gonna be me and I'm I'm a for
right or for wrong. The worst thing you could ever
do is prove any critics right in terms of how
you handle things. That's the worst thing that could happen
because now, who's gonna want to bring that type of

(30:48):
player into into their facility.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
I just don't I don't know.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
I don't know that this works out the way that
Shador Sanders wants it to work out. If there isn't
a come to Jesus moment, what come to Jesus moment
is you are not Dion Sanders. You are not prime time.
Your Shadoor, your Shadoor b Chador. Do what you need
to do and hope that those those efforts are good enough,

(31:15):
because even when you're good enough, the numbers game says
that a lot of times you're not even going to
get that opportunity that you thought or hoped you would get.
So I think he's in a tough situation here and maturity, immaturity,
whatever you want to call it, it could cost him here.
And that would be said if his actions off off

(31:36):
of the field would actually cost him an opportunity on it.

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Speaker 2 (31:50):
Right now, we welcome in a Thursday tradition here on
the show. He is the one and only Alber Breer,
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. You
can get him on x at Albert Breer. And we've
got to address something that was one of the hottest
takes making the rounds on social media last night from

(32:10):
one Albert Brier. All right, so well, yeah, this was
from Albert Brier last night. In the midst of great
playoff baseball up and down the day, Albert Breer sends
the following quote, Wearing sliding mits has to be one
of the softest looks a pro athlete can have, maybe

(32:32):
the softest look. Now that you've had time to think
about that statement, any further thoughts.

Speaker 8 (32:40):
Would I would like to have the opinions of the
two pro athletes that we have here with us, Jonas.

Speaker 12 (32:46):
What do you think I think we don't think we
can contell with.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Them slider mit soft or what? What do you guys think?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Is it really necessary?

Speaker 5 (32:55):
I mean, it's I feel like the dirt and a
major League baseball park has to be like some of
the best dirts you're gonna find.

Speaker 8 (33:03):
What I'm saying right, I think it's to give you
the ideas that you get cleated, right, like, but I
mean how often?

Speaker 4 (33:09):
I don't know. I mean I.

Speaker 12 (33:11):
Think every I think I think I think.

Speaker 8 (33:13):
Every I think every like American kid has at one
point or another played baseball, right like, every American boy
at one point almost every had played had played baseball
growing up, especially people who are in our generation, like
we all played baseball as kids, right, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (33:30):
And how often do you ever.

Speaker 8 (33:31):
Remember like it being a hazard, having like here having
bare hands on the bass pass. I don't ever remember
that ever, like being a problem period?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Do you?

Speaker 5 (33:42):
I guess you're also trying to navigate, move your hands
as you slide anyway, like if you're just letting it
flail out there to get cleted.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
But well, some guys, actually, some guys use it to
give them.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
They're not you're not a pro jonas he said, hold
on pro, hold on.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
But I don't care about your whole sliding theory.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well no, but some guys, some guys use it to
give him a little extra length on their hands so
they can get to the base sooner.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Oh god, that is that?

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
So are you? Are you?

Speaker 6 (34:12):
Should you be considered out if he tags the tip.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, you can't know if.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
He tags your tip, are you out because your fingers
aren't there.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
It's just just doesn't that just actually make your body
bigger to tag out?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Then get Yeah, you just got this.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
If your theory is that it helps you get to
the bag quicker because it's you know, gonna extension of
your arm, it also makes bigger target.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Where are we right?

Speaker 8 (34:39):
I mean they legitimately, they legitimately look like oven mits lvar.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
What do you think?

Speaker 12 (34:43):
It's a pretty soft look.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
You think, I will say, considered, you know, maybe there's
less friction, you know, like I can recall, first of all,
I wasn't a good slider because I wasn't I wasn't
great at baseball all but but and that's hard, Like
that's a learned art, learning how to slide. So if

(35:05):
you're going hit first, face first and you're sliding, which
I would assume that that's the only time that these
mits would really matter, maybe it's just less friction, Like
you can move quicker to the bag, I would assume,
and and not possibly damage your hand. But like like
you guys are saying, I mean, it's such manicured manicured

(35:26):
dirt that that you're sliding on. I don't know that
it would would matter. I would assume that there's other
parts of you that would be you know, and at
risk of getting brush burns and stuff like that if
you slid.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
So I don't know. I don't, I don't.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
I'm not sure what the mits you know, how the
mits serve a real purpose? You know in this, you know,
especially if it's like at a high level. I could
see if it was like Little League, there.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Might be.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
I almost feel it would make you slower too, like
just like having your hands free, like feeling if you're
wearing like these like frying pans, like I don't know,
it just feels like it would be like it would
make your it would make you feel slower, right, I
don't know.

Speaker 12 (36:11):
Maybe I'm wrong about that part of it.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
It'd probably also be hard to cons if you're trying
to do like, uh, you know, the pantomime stuff where
you were using your hands similar to like what should
or was.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
Doing yesterday, right, like when you're trying to like get
people to understand you without speaking.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, what was that?

Speaker 4 (36:27):
And what about hands?

Speaker 8 (36:28):
I mean not that I don't know, guys, it doesn't
feel to me like the behavior.

Speaker 12 (36:32):
For starting quarterback.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
That's just me.

Speaker 12 (36:35):
It was.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
I was that was very interesting. I guess he was.
He was, uh, he was. He was responding to Rex
Ryan and whatever Rex Ryan said on ESTM the other day,
which I mean, like fine, But then does that mean
you got rabbit ears? You know, and you're hearing everything
that everybody's saying about Yeah, I don't know. I just
like I it's it's almost hard to watch some of

(36:59):
it because it's like you're not helping yourself, dude, you
know what I mean, Like you're playing into like what
people are saying about you.

Speaker 13 (37:04):
And I I don't like, Like, I think.

Speaker 8 (37:07):
The best things you do or can do, and the
best things you do or the best things you.

Speaker 12 (37:13):
Door could accomplish this year is to continue to.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Develop as a quarterback.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
And based on everything that I know about what teams
you thought of him when they met with them before
the draft, and you know where he's been at with
the Browns, like and the stuff I've said to you
guys over the last five months.

Speaker 12 (37:27):
You know, I just I you know.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
He had a long way to go, you know, and
I think for a player like that, the best thing
to do is take every opportunity you have to to develop,
and you know, and and and blend in with your
teammates and and make sure that you know you're doing
all the right things so you're creating the right amount
of opportunity for yourself. And you know, when when the
team goes through something like you know what they're going

(37:52):
through this week, which is, you know, a pretty major
move when you're switching your forty year old quarterback out
for another rookie, feels.

Speaker 12 (38:00):
To me like another way of bringing any attention on.

Speaker 8 (38:02):
To yourself, you know, like should do Or gets less attention.
That's that's the funny thing about this is if should
do Or just stands in front of the microphones and
says like, yep, I got Dylan's back, you know, like
I'm I'm I'm I'm excited to see what he can
do out there, anything he needs for me.

Speaker 12 (38:16):
If I can be a resource, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 8 (38:18):
Like like we're not even talking about it anymore.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
You know.

Speaker 8 (38:20):
He actually brought more attention to himself by doing the
mind thing than than than than he would have if
he had just gone out there and answered some questions.
But he didn't even need to do that because he's
not playing, you know, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
At some point he plays this season, though, right, I mean,
like the way this.

Speaker 8 (38:37):
Thing's going him, I mean that's up to him and
maybe the owner.

Speaker 12 (38:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (38:43):
I mean, like I think like I think it's you
guys know this, like and this is something that's been
like impressed on me over the years, like you know,
in covering the sport. It's just you know, talking to
the guys like you you guys have played it and
guys who coach it, like, you know, to put a
guy in there at that position, you got to have
confidence that, like he's going to be able to operate

(39:03):
the offense at the level that's going to allow the
other ten guys in the huddle to perform, you know, and.

Speaker 12 (39:08):
So can he do that?

Speaker 4 (39:09):
You know?

Speaker 12 (39:09):
Is he is?

Speaker 8 (39:10):
Is he going to be providing that for for his teammates? Like,
and I think that's the big that's the bigger thing.
And that's why I say it's up to him, you know, like,
you know, his opportunities and be dictated by how he
comes along in practice and what he looks like in
the coach's confidence to put him in there.

Speaker 12 (39:25):
Does the organization want to get a look at.

Speaker 8 (39:27):
Him before the end of the year. Sure, you know,
they want to get a look at all the guys
at that position so they can make a coherent decision
on whether they're going at quarterbacks in twenty twenty six,
whether they're going to draft one or or trade or sign,
trade for or sign a veteran, like if you want
to have as much information as you possibly can on
the guys that you have already on your roster. But

(39:47):
on this on the flip side, you Dorys got to
earn that too, you know, unless unless somebody above the coach,
coach steps in and says says, you know, like we
we have to take a look at him, Like I
would think that Shudor is going to have to earn
that in practice, and we'll see if you can.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Speaking of quarterbacks that are are good, Abe, you got
Josh Allen and you got Jalen Hurts. These are quarterbacks
of the two remaining unbeaten teams. I saw your article, Uh,
you know your thoughts on the Eagles, and I see
I tend to agree with you. The old school way

(40:26):
of playing football, the old school approach the way the
coaches is old school. Everything is kind of old school
about the Eagles, But when you look at the Bills,
they kind of have that same type of approach as well.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Both quarterbacks have mobility.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Maybe Josh Allen, maybe the better quarterback, may have more mobility.
But at the end of the day, you're talking about
a formula that kind of is working, even though it
might look ugly.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
What's your is the Are.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
The Eagles the best team in the NFL? Is is
it the Bills that are best?

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Say?

Speaker 6 (41:02):
Either way, right, both teams are doing it pretty much
the same type of way.

Speaker 12 (41:07):
Right, I mean, like I would say the Eagles.

Speaker 8 (41:08):
It's interesting because I think the Eagles are and I
think this is like this doesn't sound like a compliment.
There's the highest compliment I think is the Eagles are
the team that can beat you the most amount of ways,
you know what I mean, Like the Eagles can win
all types of games, which I think is what it
takes to win in the playoffs, because you're going to
run into teams that are going to be able to
take away what you do well. You're going to run

(41:30):
into different conditions, you know, whether it's the snow, the cold,
the wind, whatever it is that can force you to
play a certain style. And you know, if they say
styles win fights, like the Eagles are capable of playing
the most amount of styles, you know, and so like,
and I think you saw it, like at the end
of that Rams game, you know, when they were able
to take away take one Barklay, which not many teams

(41:52):
can do that. But when the when the Rams were
able to take away Sake one Barklay in the run game,
I mean, in the second half of that game, it
was the A. J. Brown Avante Smith show, you know
what I mean, Like every critical spot they were going
to those two and you know, I sort of seem
you know, I think it's you.

Speaker 13 (42:07):
Know, I think it's smart to you to parallel the
Bills because you know the Bills. I think you saw
something closer to their ceiling in the opener. And now
it's almost like they're not taking the Ferrari out when.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
It's raining, you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (42:19):
Like now it's like we're going to keep the We're
going to keep the Ferrari in the garage because we
don't need to. We don't need to pull it out
and get it scuffed up. Now you know, so, like,
you know, at those two teams because they're so good,
because they're so versatile, you know, have an ability to
play certain styles and play all styles really and then

(42:39):
manage their seasons a certain way. So you know, like
do the Bills need to empty the clip to beat
the Saints?

Speaker 12 (42:48):
Snow?

Speaker 8 (42:48):
So they didn't empty the clip against the Saints, you know,
and and it might have looked a little tight there
at the end, but they were able to step on
their throat at the end and.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Win, you know.

Speaker 12 (42:56):
And same with the Eagles, Like do the Eagles need Aj.

Speaker 8 (42:59):
Brown and DeVante Smith to combine for you know, fifteen
catches every week? No, So, like you know, they're gonna
you know that they can save that tread on those
guys tires, and they can win different ways, and you know,
you continue to develop different ways to win games. And
I think it serves you well in January. And you know,
I don't think I don't think. I don't think any

(43:21):
of us would be we'll be speaking out of school
to say those two teams are probably not only are
the undefeated now, they're probably going to be there at
the end too.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter lead content strategist at the MMQB,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. What are the
Bengals do? Because I think the thought was well, Jake Browning,
although obviously a step down from Joe Burrow, at least
a couple of years ago, we saw some glimpses that
they can operate or at least stay afloat until potentially

(43:51):
Burrow comes back.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Later in the year.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
They look awful, and I know Zach Taylor came out
yesterday and said, I have all the faith in the
world in jail, but are there options outside of him
that would make sense for them at this point if
they wanted to continue to compete.

Speaker 12 (44:07):
Here's the way, here's the way.

Speaker 8 (44:08):
I've kind of come to look at this.

Speaker 12 (44:09):
Like I, you know, I when I when I first started.

Speaker 8 (44:13):
Covering the league, I was in the Patriots fete, as
you guys know, and so I was that was in
the middle of the Brady Manning rivalry, and it felt
like those two franchises were gonna win forever, right, and then,
like you know, the Colts bottom out just the right time.
They wind up with Andrew lock so there their their
run gets extended a little bit. And then when Luck retires,

(44:34):
like the whole thing kind of went to It was
like like year and a year, like how are you
duct taping this thing together? And then the Patriots lose
Brady and they completely collapse, and you know it just
sort of like for me at.

Speaker 12 (44:48):
Least, he kind of, you know, gave me the.

Speaker 8 (44:50):
Lesson that like every opportunity you have with a quarterback
like this to go into the into the playoffs of
the quarterback like this is gold.

Speaker 6 (44:57):
So you need to take advantage of it.

Speaker 8 (44:58):
I relate that to the Bengals because I think, yeah,
I think the time has come for them to look
in the mirror a little bit and say, do we
really think like we can get to seven wins by
the time Joe Burrow gets back, which should be the
middle of December, right, do we really think that we
can get there? Because if you don't, like, I think
you owe it to yourself to look for different answers

(45:20):
at the position. Maybe that's Kirk Cousins. And I think
if you look at it, like if they were to
trade for Kirk Cousins at the you know, in a
couple of weeks, I think the number would be down
around eighteen million.

Speaker 12 (45:31):
Dollars for the rest of the year.

Speaker 8 (45:33):
For eighteen million dollars and let's call it like a
fourth round pick.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Is that worth it?

Speaker 8 (45:36):
A lot of people might say, no.

Speaker 12 (45:38):
He's only going to start whatever many games.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
But to have the.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
Opportunity to go into the playoffs with Joe Burrow, I
would say would be worth that investment. You know, like
if you think Kirk Cousins can come in and get
you to say seven and six, when Joe Burrow gets back,
and then you're in the playoffs with Joe Burrow with
a team that's developed different strengths now because Joe Burrow
was out, Like I would one say that's worth as

(46:04):
the investment. So I I long way of saying, like,
I think they've got to be really honest with themselves
now about their ability to create a playoff opportunity for
for for themselves when Joe Burrow gets back, and if
Jake Browning can't get them there, I think they owe
it to themselves to at least explore different ideas of
how they.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Can get there.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I've got another one for you. The New York Giants.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Obviously, Jackson Dart brings in some juice, gets them a win,
why keep both Russ and Jamis? You know, is there
not a team out there that would look at Jamis
or Brussel for that matter and go, yeah, that would
help us right now? The Bagels being one of.

Speaker 12 (46:42):
Them, Yeah, I mean, I think I think they.

Speaker 8 (46:44):
I think if you're the Giants, would definitely open for business.

Speaker 12 (46:47):
You know, like I you've now you're you're in on
Jackson Dart. Obviously there's no turning back there.

Speaker 8 (46:54):
And so if I'm the Giants, I would absolutely explore it.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
You know.

Speaker 8 (46:58):
Now, I think, like what I mentioned with Kirk Cousins
and Bengals, I think is a little bit of a
unique fit. You know, Zach Taylor worked for Sean McVay
in Los Angeles and McVeigh was Kirk cousins offensive coordinator
in Washington. So I think with Cousins going to Cincinnati,
there would be like an opportunity to sort of hit
the ground running there that may not exist the exact

(47:19):
same way with a Winston or Wilson, but I would
agree with you, like I think I think that the
Giants will should and will listen to any offers for
either of those two guys. I don't know, if you
want to get rid of both of them, you know,
because I think you certainly want to have some insurance there,
and you also, I think you value what you've sort
of built in the quarterback room over the course of

(47:40):
this year, and so having the support of a veteran
quarterback in there for your young quarterbacks good. But I
would I would definitely entertain the idea of moving.

Speaker 6 (47:49):
One or the other, you know, Abe, I listened to
all the conversations, listen to our questions just now, and
you know, looking at all the things that are out there,
it's interesting, like different kind of comparisons. Like Jerry Jones
comes out and says, well, you know, I didn't pay
Michael Parsons because it wasn't really going to improve us

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to the level that he wanted it to improve us to.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
So a lot of people feel as though.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
Jerry made the right business decision by paying Michael Parsons.
But then I look at a team like Cleveland who
paid Miles Garrett and they're a one win team. So
Miles Garrett, who some would say, you know, most would say,
I guess outside of you know, if you're on to
debate Michael Parsons or maybe TJ Wy whoever else, that

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he's the best defender.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
In the league and his team is one in three.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
I just I just wonder when we're having these conversations,
how do we measure engage when one is seems to
be more relevant than the other, Because I don't think
that takes away from the greatness of Miles Garrett that
they're a one in three team. You know, Cincinnati losing
as well Trey Hendrickson gat at, which I mean, obviously

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what isn't an.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Elite deal, but he got a deal.

Speaker 6 (49:06):
I mean, how how should we be looking at this
because we do get a direct comparison with the fact that, Okay,
you could use the same exact reasoning with Miles Garrett
if we're looking at it that way, right.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
Yeah, I would say, well, I would say, yeah, Like
I think like the trade market for those two is
going to come naturally, just in that if if those
teams are out of the out of the race, like
the Bengals and Browns don't really need to do much.
And there are separate situations, right like where with Miles Garrett,

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you're talking about taking on a big contract and he's
a much better player, but like you're talking about taking
on a big contract, right like so and and you're
going to have him for a few years, So there's
the risk. There's a financial risk you're taken with how
much money you're taking on. But then you also have
him signed for a few years versus with Trey Hendrick.
And you're talking about a guy who is also as expensive,

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not quite as expensive, and in a contract here, so
you don't have him beyond this year. So there's separate situations.
But I think that that that sort of thing is
going to happen naturally. And you know, I think if
you're a contending team, that would be one thing that
you would circle and you would look at that and
you would say, okay, like what can we go out
and do? And you know, again maybe it's something I

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think we talked about Detroit, right Like Detroit would be
an interesting one for one of those guys. I would like,
you know, now Detroit still got paid Hutchinson.

Speaker 12 (50:34):
So you know there's that question too.

Speaker 8 (50:36):
But like if you're if you're the Lions, and again,
like you look at it like we're right back in
it and we need some we need to put somebody
off with Aiden Hutchinson. And last year they did that
was a Darius Smith.

Speaker 12 (50:49):
You know that that would be a team that.

Speaker 8 (50:51):
Might make that call.

Speaker 12 (50:51):
Could the Eagles make that call?

Speaker 8 (50:53):
I know the Eagles had inquired a Mile.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Scaret in the past.

Speaker 8 (50:55):
So I think these sorts of things will happen naturally,
and you know it's on those teams then to test
the appetite of the Browns and Bengals to trade those guys.
That again, is assuming that by the time we get
to Halloween right around there when the trade deadline believe
is November fourth, that those teams are out of any
realistic playoff contention.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
All right, Albert Breer, before I let you go, you know,
I'm just curious, do you believe that this Saturday, by
the time the game is over between Ohio State and Minnesota,
that the buck Eys will have won by more than
twenty three and a half points.

Speaker 8 (51:37):
You want to talk about not taking the ferrari out
of the garage right like I think the Ohio State
Buckeyes right now, or like the.

Speaker 12 (51:43):
Ultimate example of that, like where they're able to just choke.

Speaker 8 (51:46):
Teams out and they haven't really taken the ferrari out
of the garage yet.

Speaker 12 (51:52):
I think this week, maybe you start to see them put.

Speaker 8 (51:54):
A little bit more like, let you know, kind of
like loosen the rains a little bit on Julian saying,
I'll say they covered Let's say this one's like thirty
one to seven, maybe, so they.

Speaker 12 (52:03):
Just cover that spread by just a little bit.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Do you uh, do you have some concerns about their
you know, limited ability attacking down the field.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
I think he's only thrown like fifteen balls yards or
more downfield.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
I don't know, like I'm not. So it can be
intentional in two ways though. It could be intentional because
they don't feel like they need to. It can be
intentional because they don't feel like that's Julian's strength, which
is a terrible pairing then with the wide receivers that
they have.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Or it could be you know, just a byproduct.

Speaker 12 (52:34):
Yeah, but they went downfield.

Speaker 8 (52:35):
I mean like if you watch the game against sou
like album went.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Downfield, Albert, Albert. This is not an opinion.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
He's thrown fifteen balls that have gone over twenty yards downfield,
right Like that's that's me looking at a passing map
telling you I'm not This isn't an opinion.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
This is me telling.

Speaker 8 (52:50):
You I think You've seen the ability to do it, right,
don't you.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah, I think he does.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
And that's why, like I'm kind of looking at it
going all right, like, what's what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (53:01):
I mean I think I I think like you look at.

Speaker 8 (53:04):
The circumstances of the last couple.

Speaker 12 (53:05):
Of the big games of course against Texas and Washington.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
I think there were reasons why you were being careful there,
and you want to win those games. On defense, you
saw a little bit more testing of that, you know,
against scrambling and and and ou And I think here's
where this is where like you're probably looking at, Okay,
this stretch, maybe you want to grow a little bit
more with the downfield passing game.

Speaker 12 (53:25):
But the defense is so good right now. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (53:28):
I mean, is there a better player in the country
than R. L.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Reece?

Speaker 5 (53:33):
He's a stud physically, I mean, I don't. I saw
a clip of him standing up a left tackle like
the one I was like, my god, I.

Speaker 8 (53:44):
Mean it looked like I mean, that looked like you know,
Bane from Batman, Like that looks like I don't know, Yeah,
I was like, anyway.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
That could be that could be the name you threw
out there. Is most dominant.

Speaker 8 (53:57):
Ruben Bane from from Miami, right, Yeah, I'm a trying
to see him against Florida State this weekend.

Speaker 12 (54:01):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
My gosh, I was raised AYB.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (54:08):
By the way that you guys got to look at
the Jordan a lot of like, have you guys seen
that his Dane impression is unbelievable. I'll send it to Brady.
But there was a play where he said, God, it
was one of the lines from Batman, I'll send it
to I'll find Yeah, I see.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
I saying it. I saying that, I know what you're talking.

Speaker 8 (54:26):
Sounds like Dane.

Speaker 12 (54:27):
Like he's miked up. He sounds like Dane.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
It was.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
I mean, what a combination for that guy.

Speaker 12 (54:33):
Oh for sure, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Get him on.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Has the voice of an angel. How about that.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Lead content strategist at the m m QB and the
Pride of Ohio State AB.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 8 (54:46):
That